Real Answers and Real Drinks: Tim Pool | YES or NO

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Introduction and Guest Introduction

The episode features Michael Knowles engaging in a lively "Yes or No" game with his guest, Tim Pool, a well-known political commentator and streamer. The segment begins with a brief, humorous exchange about Tim Pool's experience with online cancellation and various advertisements, which are skipped to focus on the core content.

1. The "Yes or No" Game Begins

Timestamp: [03:03]

Michael introduces the game by outlining its rules and encourages listeners to purchase related merchandise, such as the "Yes or No" game from Daily Wire. He humorously remarks on Tim Pool's attempts to enjoy an expensive bottle of Pappy bourbon, highlighting the banter between the hosts.

2. Cenk Uygur vs. Kamala Harris in the Presidential Election

Timestamp: [03:03 - 04:03]

Michael posits that Cenk Uygur would have outperformed Kamala Harris in a presidential race, suggesting that Uygur's ability to attract a diverse voter base, including some Muslims in Michigan, could have mitigated the electoral blowout in the Rust Belt.

Notable Quote:

Michael Knowles [03:03]: "Cenk Uygur would have performed better than Kamala Harris at the presidential election... Yes."

Tim Pool's Response: Tim acknowledges Uygur's articulation of ideas, albeit sometimes flawed, allowing Harris to hold contradictory positions effortlessly.

3. Voting Procedures and Dietary Preferences

Timestamp: [04:04 - 05:39]

The next round features a humorous question about requiring voters to provide a photo ID alongside proof that they abstain from eating pizza cheese, leading to a playful exchange about diet preferences and personal habits.

Notable Quote:

Michael Knowles [04:04]: "I eat a lot of pasta and breads... it's poison, man. Minute on the lips, forever on the hips. I say no."

Tim Pool's Response: Tim explains his method of scraping off pizza cheese to adhere to his keto diet, emphasizing waste reduction and personal health choices.

4. Voicing Dr. Fauci on Freedom Toons

Timestamp: [06:01 - 07:06]

Michael challenges Tim on voicing Dr. Fauci for the "Freedom Toons" cartoon. Tim shares his experience of creating a cartoonish impersonation of Fauci, indicating the playful nature of his work and its reception among peers.

Notable Quote:

Tim Pool [06:38]: "When I do these impersonations, I try to make them cartoonish versions instead of actually trying to sound like them."

5. National Abortion Ban: Will It Happen in Our Lifetime?

Timestamp: [11:09 - 15:54]

A significant portion of the conversation delves into the possibility of a national abortion ban within the current generation. Michael and Tim explore the implications of the 14th Amendment, personhood, and the potential legal battles that could ensue.

Notable Quotes:

Tim Pool [11:24]: "I absolutely believe it will happen."

Michael Knowles [12:33]: "The Supreme Court will have to answer that question... we can't have this."

Tim articulates his shift from believing states would regulate abortion to recognizing that the Supreme Court must address the personhood of the unborn, drawing parallels to the Civil War era amendments.

6. Joe Biden's Influence on Kamala Harris's Campaign

Timestamp: [16:06 - 19:35]

The hosts discuss allegations that President Joe Biden actively undermined Kamala Harris's campaign efforts, suggesting strategic missteps and mishandling of the election process. They humorously critique Biden's actions and the possible impact on the election outcome.

Notable Quote:

Tim Pool [16:06]: "Joe Biden wanted Kamala to lose and actively torpedoed her campaign. Correct."

7. Alex Jones vs. Luke Rutkowski: Who is More Accurate?

Timestamp: [20:10 - 21:58]

Michael poses a question about whether Alex Jones is more accurate than Luke Rutkowski. Tim opts to support Luke, citing his field reporting and adherence to factual reporting despite acknowledging Alex Jones's emotional delivery and occasional accuracy.

Notable Quote:

Tim Pool [21:34]: "When you add the field reporting and Luke keeping things a little closer to earth, it just gives him more accuracy."

8. The Ukraine War vs. the War in Gaza: Which Ends First?

Timestamp: [33:58 - 35:32]

The discussion turns to geopolitical conflicts, questioning whether the Ukraine war will conclude before the war in Gaza. Michael suggests both may end before Trump's presidency, while Tim counters that the Gaza conflict is more likely to end sooner, referencing recent statements from Hamas and the Houthis.

Notable Quote:

Tim Pool [34:44]: "The war in Gaza will end before the war in Ukraine."

9. J.D. Vance vs. Donald Trump: Who Will Finish Their Term?

Timestamp: [35:32 - 38:05]

A thought-provoking debate ensues over whether J.D. Vance is more likely to complete his term compared to Donald Trump, hinging on age and life expectancy. Michael defends Trump's likelihood of completing his term despite being older, while Tim emphasizes statistical probabilities favoring younger candidates like Vance.

Notable Quote:

Tim Pool [37:11]: "The probability that J.D. Vance finishes his term is higher regardless of whether J.D."

10. Creating a Holiday for January 6th

Timestamp: [38:08 - 40:10]

In a controversial and humorous segment, the hosts contemplate establishing a performative holiday on January 6th, comparing it to Guy Fawkes Day. They riff on the potential for public spectacle and the symbolic significance of the date.

Notable Quote:

Michael Knowles [39:53]: "Congressmen are wary on the 6th of January."

11. The Average 4B Woman Oath and Tim's Cancellation of IRL

Timestamp: [40:10 - 33:03]

In a closing round, Michael makes a jest about the average 4B woman oath lasting as long as Tim Pool’s supposed cancellation of IRL (In Real Life). Tim attributes his avoidance of alcohol to health consciousness, labeling the 4B women's reactions as "histrionic."

Notable Quote:

Michael Knowles [32:09]: "The average 4B woman oath will last as long as Tim's cancellation of IRL."

Conclusion

The episode blends political discourse with light-hearted banter, showcasing Michael Knowles's interviewing style and Tim Pool's analytical perspectives. Their dynamic interaction provides listeners with both entertainment and insight into current political and cultural debates.

Notable Quotes Recap:

• Michael Knowles [03:03]: "Cenk Uygur would have performed better than Kamala Harris at the presidential election... Yes."
• Tim Pool [11:24]: "I absolutely believe it will happen."
• Tim Pool [34:44]: "The war in Gaza will end before the war in Ukraine."
• Tim Pool [37:11]: "The probability that J.D. Vance finishes his term is higher regardless of whether J.D."

Final Remarks

The episode underscores the polarized nature of contemporary politics, with both hosts presenting their viewpoints through the engaging format of the "Yes or No" game. Listeners are left with a nuanced understanding of the topics discussed, framed by the hosts' distinct perspectives.

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Transcript

[Michael Knowles]

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[Tim Pool]

To be fair, was never an actual cancellation.

[Michael Knowles]

It wasn't a full on. It was a raising the prospect of canceling.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

But for the 4B women, these women are just sad and angry about other stuff.

[Tim Pool]

That's one way to put it. I'd say histrionic. Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

I am joined today for this episode of the yes or no game by a friend of mine who has so many advantages. This is a man with an immense wealth of pop culture knowledge, of political knowledge, a man of athleticism with his skateboard, a man of artistic expertise, a man who can conceal his true thoughts and intentions beneath that beanie. In that mind of his, I speak, of course, from Mr. Tim Pool.

[Tim Pool]

This is gonna be fun. Thanks for having me, Tim.

[Michael Knowles]

Thank you for coming on. If you want to get the yes or no game, you have to go to dailywire.com shop and you can get yes or no the game. That's where you start. Then you can get the conspiracy theory expansion pack. Then after that, you can get the politics, philosophy and religion expansion pack. But you have to get the martini on your own. We don't sell those. Tim, you have another advantage. You are drinking iced tea.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. I don't drink.

[Michael Knowles]

You don't drink. But you have the most expensive, luxurious booze probably anywhere.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, for election night, we got some pappy.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And I know very little about bourbon, but everyone gets very excited when they see it. And so I had a sip.

[Michael Knowles]

Oh, you did have a sip.

[Tim Pool]

I did, yes. Because I'm not, you know, it's like I'm an alcoholic trying to avoid drinking. I just. I'm a health nut.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes. And it is sort of poison. However, even for me, I'm not even a huge bourbon guy. But when I saw I like a good deal and when I saw at your place and then also on election night that you had a $2,000 bottle of whiskey. I said, well, I got it. Of course I gotta try it. Do you think it was worth it? Yeah, of course it was.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, everybody. Your security guards were excited. They were looking at. They're like, he's got a bottle of Pappy. And I'm like, well, apparently it's a big deal. Apparently so.

[Michael Knowles]

It's a big deal. Okay, so with all of this immense power and with sobriety at this early hour, you know the rules of the game.

[Tim Pool]

I do.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, so I'm gonna begin. I say ladies first, but since you're a man, I'm gonna begin. Cenk Uygur would have performed better than Kamala Harris at the presidential election. Or just. It's ambiguous, but probably at the presidential election. Yes. Because at least he might have gotten some Muslims in Michigan and it wouldn't have been a complete blowout in the Rust Belt. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

But, you know, he also articulates ideas, albeit many of them, I believe are often wrong. But at least he tries.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, he does. Whereas with her, if she articulates an idea, she will then, out of the other side of her mouth, contradict that idea. So she can hold both sides of every issue.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think the challenge for her is that she comes from a middle class family. That's the only thing she can actually say whenever asked a question.

[Michael Knowles]

Does she? Does she? She comes from a middle class family.

[Tim Pool]

I heard that.

[Michael Knowles]

I thought she fell out of a coconut tree.

[Tim Pool]

Who knew?

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, you're up.

[Tim Pool]

She did both. All right. All right. In order to vote, every citizen should provide a photo ID along with proof they do not eat the cheese off of pizza, leaving nothing but a sauce triangle for their employees to eat.

[Michael Knowles]

Hey, I'll be real. Look, I eat a lot of pasta and a lot of breads, and I don't. You know, I don't. But all that stuff's poison, man. Minute on the lips, forever on the hips. If you're just gonna eat the cheese off pizza, more power to you. I say no.

[Tim Pool]

This is just making fun of me now.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Hold on. Do you do that? I didn't.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I don't eat carbs. Very few.

[Michael Knowles]

But you'll eat pizza.

[Tim Pool]

So we'll order pizza. And I scrape the cheese and toppings off. I enjoy it. And then I leave the delicious bread for those who want to eat the.

[Michael Knowles]

Bread for the hoi polloi. That's.

[Tim Pool]

So the reason they did this is because we had an employee go in and not realize they were grabbing just the bread and they Picked it up and bit it. And they were like, there's no cheese on this. And I was like, oh, that was mine. I scraped the cheese off.

[Michael Knowles]

No, off mine. You're good.

[Tim Pool]

So this is them ragging on me.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow. Okay. But I guess. So you would say no, then you would obviously say because you want to vote.

[Tim Pool]

Well, of course. So no is the correct answer. And. And absolutely. I will enjoy some delicious iced tea.

[Michael Knowles]

There's not like, look, man, it's weird, for sure, but it's not like you're licking the bread. It's not like you've eaten. You've scraped it with your teeth. It's just soggy bread.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, come on.

[Michael Knowles]

It's like a focaccia.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. And so I try to. I do keto. So I have a higher. It's very high fat, very low carb. There's a little bit of carbs. I'm not gonna eat bread. And so why throw the bread away?

[Michael Knowles]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Just seems a waste.

[Michael Knowles]

There's starving people all over the world.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody wants to eat it. But, you know, at least I feel better about myself. Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

It's like a Punzanell. The freedom tunes. Dr. Fauci will never reach its full potential until the right voice actor is cast. You have to guess how I would. How I would answer.

[Tim Pool]

Well, this seems like a trick question. I'm gonna do this, I think.

[Michael Knowles]

Did you mistakenly think I was the voice actor?

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm the voice actor.

[Michael Knowles]

Oh, that's right.

[Tim Pool]

And so you would have to insult me by saying yes.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, I would have to do that. Yeah, you're correct. Now, listen here, you. I hate to put you on.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. So I am the voice of Dr. Fauci on freedom Toons cartoon. Hold on.

[Michael Knowles]

That's a little more Austrian or something. I know. It's got a little Arnold in there.

[Tim Pool]

It's a cartoon character. And so, you know, I don't know how it came about. Seamus and I are hanging out, and then he heard me do an impersonation of Fauci on the show and asked me to do it. So whenever I do these impersonations, I try to make them cartoonish versions instead of actually trying to sound like them.

[Michael Knowles]

So my Fauci voice actually comes truly from a woman I love very much. Old family friend who is. It's a Jewish woman from Queens, but has a little bit, you know. Cause the thing is, the voice, it's not like that voice is unique to Fauci. That is just a type of voice. He is just a product of his environment. So I took that and I just kind of lowered it a little bit. Like normally it'd be a little bit of it, but I lowered it a little and that's how you get a hint in Faichi.

[Tim Pool]

Is this because you wanted to voice Fauci on Freedom Tunes?

[Michael Knowles]

I never was offered the role. Good. I never saw a casting notice and I'm dismayed by that.

[Tim Pool]

It was when he said, you don't have to wear two masks. And I think that's when Seamus was like, you should do Fauci on the show. And then we had a gag where Seamus asserted that the entirety of Tim cast was funded by my royalty checks from the voicing I do on Freedom suits.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Union. Non. Union.

[Tim Pool]

Non Union. Non.

[Michael Knowles]

Union. Non Union.

[Tim Pool]

Non. Union. Non union.

[Michael Knowles]

You're not payable. Okay, that's fair.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Shelley, you're upset due to the Diddy files this time, many celebrity promises to leave the country if Trump is elected. May actually happen.

[Michael Knowles]

I know how I would answer.

[Tim Pool]

I'd say yes.

[Michael Knowles]

You'd say yes? Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say yes.

[Michael Knowles]

You don't think it's just all going to get swept under the rug like it always does?

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's read this again. May actually happen. So it's implying there is a higher probability this time around. I would actually say if we're thinking about celebrities, plural, many celebrity promises. I would be willing to bet there are a handful because there's a lot of celebrities.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I think there's a strong possibility it's not just with the Diddy files, Epstein files. I think there's a strong possibility that there's fear. Elon Musk said in that interview, when Trump gets elected, the Epstein files are coming out.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

These Diddy freakouts or whatever they call them.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, Freak offs.

[Tim Pool]

Freak offs. There you go. See, I don't even know what they're talking about.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, yeah. I've only been to a handful.

[Tim Pool]

I think they may actually happen. You see, I feel like this might be a trick question in a sense, because if it said will actually happen, I may have said no.

[Michael Knowles]

But you think there is a greater likelihood that people go into these freak off things since the 90s with P. Diddy Diddy Do Dog is gonna. That is going to impel them to leave.

[Tim Pool]

So there's a lot of people who said, if Trump wins, I'm leaving the country. And I would say right now that the probability that at least some of them do is greater than chance. So there's indication they may because this Diddy stuff is involving children. And so, and I also say this, we had that one story, I think it was McCabe said federal agents are thinking of fleeing the country if Trump wins. So if we're starting from that low of a threshold that someone who works for the FBI may just want to leave because they're scared of Trump in general because of repercussions, the people going to these ditty parties have a much greater incentive to do so.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. That's point on the board for Tim. Look, I understand it's fair, it's fair. I understand.

[Tim Pool]

But it's tough because I could have easily said no, but it said may happen. So may.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

The question was fairly light.

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[Tim Pool]

Oh wow. It's a question of how optimistic do I think you are and do I think you're a cynic or do I think you have hope. And whatever I choose will basically be a statement.

[Michael Knowles]

There's always the distinction between the conservative optimist and the Conservative pessimist. Conservative optimist. Conservative pessimist says things can't get worse. Conservative optimist says, yes, they can. I'm just saying, no, yeah, it's not going to happen in our lifetime.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think it will happen.

[Michael Knowles]

You do?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, absolutely, 100%. And I'm not a staunch conservative, pro life or anything like that, but I absolutely believe it will happen.

[Michael Knowles]

Why do you think it will?

[Tim Pool]

The 14th amendment states that there's two sections to. I think this is section one. All persons born to the US are citizens. But it also says that the rights of persons, not citizens, persons, shall not be inferring to that due process.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The Supreme Court will have to answer that question. It's not a question of the legislature. It's not a question of the executive branch. It's a question of the courts, what a person is, as to what a person is. And this question was asked in the Civil War. This is how we come to get the 14th amendment. It was basically stating that you can no longer regard black people in this country as not persons, property, and they have to have due process rights. I do not see a logical path, especially for the court we currently have, to making the argument that the unborn are not persons.

[Michael Knowles]

You know, during the Dobbs decision, when they were debating whether or not to overrule Roe v. Wade, John Finniss and Robbie George, great legal scholars, made the point that you're making. They made the 14th amendment argument. They said, look, equal protection, man. These are people. And the court maybe for prudential reasons, said, look, we're not going there right now. We're just overruling Roe. Roe was insane. It is a matter for the states. I mean, the court expressed clearly they were not. They had death threats just for that.

[Tim Pool]

Initially when Roe was overturned, I said, I think it probably makes more sense. The states are gonna regulate this one as they see fit. More power to the states. I've changed my mind completely.

[Michael Knowles]

You're a 14th Amendment guy now.

[Tim Pool]

Within a week or two, I said, the Supreme Court has to answer this question. It is unconstitutional that one state may determine a person is not and a person is. And this was already brought up in the Civil War. We can't have this.

[Michael Knowles]

And the 14th Amendment is a post Civil War amendment. It's actually responding to that same kind of crisis. You make a good point. Okay, so I still say no in our lifetime, but that would be the way that it would happen.

[Tim Pool]

I want a couple points too, just for anyone who's saying, how does Tim think This, There is no question that life begins at conception. That is an absurd argument.

[Michael Knowles]

It's the definition of conception.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. It is a unique set of DNA. It is life. It is unto itself. And I've asked this question to leftists. If two identical twin women marry two identical twin males, they conceive at the exact same time and at eight and a half months they're both in the hospital, but one gives birth and the other doesn't. Can you kill the baby that was born and say, of course not. I say, okay, can you terminate the life of the baby that is in the womb of the woman next door? Say, yes, absolutely. And I said, there is no logical distinction between the babies.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What justification do you have for that? I believe that any logical reading of the law is going to state there has to be adjudication, due process, rights for the baby before their life can be terminated.

[Michael Knowles]

Let's go.

[Tim Pool]

Shall I read it?

[Michael Knowles]

Let's go. Yeah, but not in our lifetimes. You don't think?

[Tim Pool]

Not in our lifetimes, but eventually.

[Michael Knowles]

But I agree.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. I mean, there's a possibility, but I'd say it's too politically tumultuous.

[Michael Knowles]

We were talking on your show about how ideas sometimes follow to their logical conclusions. You know, there's an inescapable logic, and I think you're making a great point here, which is, okay, we have this post slavery, post Civil war amendment. It states clearly that persons have rights and they have a right to due process.

[Tim Pool]

And you want to know something even scarier, or I guess more saddening, is that I thought there was a possibility the abortion issue could be our personhood question. Akin to the Civil War, which could result in another civil war. The reason being, you have Oklahoma, which has banned abortion. You have Colorado, which has unrestricted it to birth. What happens if a woman is 6 months, 7 months pregnant? She decides, and maybe there's a maybe, you know, the left. I'm gonna say, whatever the reason may be, there's a reason. She states, in the middle of the night, she leaves her husband and flees to Colorado because she knows she can terminate this pregnancy. She makes her argument, says, oh, my husband is bad, he's abusive, and I can't have this child. The man says, she is, this is conspiracy to terminate the life of my child. She has no right to do that. These states are going to have to make a decision as to whether they allow her to cross that border. I've changed my mind on this, though. And it's sad because the Reality is, many slaves fought for their freedom. The unborn cannot fight for their lives.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so that's.

[Michael Knowles]

You don't hear. There's no Frederick Douglass of the unborn.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. And so I don't think that it'll result in a major conflict. But I do believe that. I don't know how you have Oklahoma and Colorado bordering each other with such extreme polarized views of this. And the conflict will arise, you know.

[Michael Knowles]

Scalia, but not a civil war. When I was an undergraduate, some of us asked Scalia about his view on marriage. Could states just pick their own definition? And he said, you know, so that means you're married in Massachusetts, but you're not married in Connecticut. Like, you gotta. I think for certain issues, you need a national definition. Okay, you're right.

[Tim Pool]

Let's carry on. Let's see. Real talk. Joe Biden wanted Kamala to lose and actively torpedoed her campaign. Correct.

[Michael Knowles]

I'm not even. I'm not taking more than two seconds on that. It was so obvious. Right?

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely correct. Let me get a drink of this.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He was beaming when he announced his. The transfer of power. Jill Biden wore red. He.

[Michael Knowles]

She wore red to go vote.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

He skipped her party. Apparently, he was sleeping. So the next day. I think this is the great one. He probably felt the greatest. I told you so. You betray me and now you reap what you have sown. He laughed.

[Michael Knowles]

So I'll go even further. When he was in Pennsylvania campaigning for Harris, he's at the firehouse, and he's getting into a little jokey back and forth with one of the guys. And the guy said, hey, Mr. President, will you put on my Trump hat? And Biden, he's joking around. He's playing it off very well because he's a good old politician. I don't care how senile he is. He's still got that in his bones. When he put that Trump hat on and smiled for the cameras, he knew exactly what he was doing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And there was a report from Axios that the Harris campaign was desperately trying to get him to stop campaigning for her, was trying very hard to remove her from his administration politically. And then Joe said, no, no, it's okay. We're gonna go campaign for you in Pittsburgh. Yeah. He knew what he was doing, and they couldn't do anything about it, because if they spoke up, then it just makes everything worse. And he was loving it.

[Michael Knowles]

It's great. Democrats actually did have the missing 10 million ballots ready to go, but accidentally mixed them up with the fat stacks of cash they sent to Ukraine.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, come on. That's a funny one. But there's no way.

[Michael Knowles]

No. 5 million at most.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I mean, there's an interesting question as to. I think right now she's at like, 68. 5 or something. And so we're looking at around 12 million votes that are gone. And, you know, so Trump is at. I think he's nearing 73ish. So he's gonna be down a little bit. But that makes sense because Covid activated a lot of people. Yeah, yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

More widespread mail, ins, et cetera.

[Tim Pool]

But there are many people who flipped from 2020 to Trump. And we see that swing in the New York Times polling data. More people. Trump made massive gains to the high single digits in some double digits. The question then remains, if we're looking at the raw numbers and Joe Biden got 81 and Kamala is currently at 68. But then we factor in that a decent amount of voters switched for Trump, we can say that Trump. The amount of people that voted for Trump, 2020 and 2024, may actually be 71 million. That means Kamala's missing. Yeah, I think the number would then be around 10 million voters are missing. So a lot of people are saying 15 or 20. But I'm like, the voters are there. There were some for Covid that were only paying attention because of COVID Some.

[Michael Knowles]

Votes are still being counted even as we're speaking right now.

[Tim Pool]

And that's why when people said, where are the missing 15 million? I said, well, California's only 60% in. Another two is gonna come in for. But 10 million people is a big number to have disappear from your vote count. It is simple. I mean, there are simple explanations. Right now, Gallego has more votes than Harris does in Arizona. It could just be that people don't like Trump or Harris and said, I'm not voting, but I'll vote for my senator. And thus they just sat it out.

[Michael Knowles]

There are people. There's a good chance that some people split the ballot or didn't vote down ballot. But I'll tell you, for instance, in Arizona and Nevada, the fact that it's taking a while for those other races to be called every day that the count goes on, it just. I think it makes everyone a little less confident in the system.

[Tim Pool]

Alex Jones is more accurate than Luke Rutkowski.

[Michael Knowles]

Hmm. Okay, hold on. If you'd said, Alex Jones is more accurate than, say, Rachel Maddow, I'd say, yeah, sure, he was right about the frogs. But then Luke. Look, Luke is. He's off on some things. He's got some T shirts. Alex Jones is more accurate. What would you say? I say you're going with Alex.

[Tim Pool]

No. No, I'm not.

[Michael Knowles]

You're going with Luke. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, Luke. Luke tries to play it a bit more safe. And Alex can be very emotional.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And get excitable. But I'm worried that if this comes out and I've offended Luke, he'll get mad at me. So I'm just gonna.

[Michael Knowles]

He's my friend. He's cynical. You're playing it safe now, much like Luke vis a vis Alex Jones.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, just in all seriousness, though, Alex has gotten a lot right and. But he's also. Look, he went on Joe Rogan and said fifth dimensional beings and things like that, and so I give him credit.

[Michael Knowles]

You think it's more the sixth dimension?

[Tim Pool]

Well, there's clearly more than even six. I mean, so if Alex went up to 12 or 13, then it's more likely perhaps talked about M theory and things like that. Luke keeps it a little closer to earth.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes, that's true, I think.

[Tim Pool]

And tends. You know, and also Luke does a lot of field reporting.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's. It is a tough one because I don't think either of them are intentionally getting anything wrong. But I think when you add the field reporting and Luke keeping things a little closer to earth, it just gives him more accuracy.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay. All right. You're sticking with your guy. That's cool. That's cool.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And he's gonna come on the show and he's gonna get mad at me, so I have to say nice things about him.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But Alex could too. I don't know, put me. Pit me against everybody.

[Michael Knowles]

Despite his poor diet, crippling cigar addiction. Excuse me. And complete lack of muscle tone, Michael Knowles can do a kickflip. What's a kickflip? Give it away.

[Tim Pool]

Why are they making this easy for me?

[Michael Knowles]

Maybe I can. What is a kickflip? Maybe I can do it.

[Tim Pool]

It is one of the more basic skateboarding tricks where you jump in the air and the board underneath your feet flips around. One time, you catch it and land back on it.

[Michael Knowles]

How's that? Basic. That's not basic.

[Tim Pool]

Very basic. It's one of the first things that's gonna learn. Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

I did skateboard for about four days when I was 10 or something. And I tried, you know, I didn't have, like, a good skateboard. I had kind of an el cheapo, but I was I was able basically to stand up on it while it was moving. Sometimes.

[Tim Pool]

How offensive am I allowed to be on this show to you?

[Michael Knowles]

Can be relatively.

[Tim Pool]

Relatively. Okay, so let me explain some skateboarding things for you.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There is a. So the trick we're talking about is called a kickflip.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You jump off the back of the board.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

You pop it into the air.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Then with your opposing foot, you flick with your toe so it flips around. You then catch it and land. That's called the kickflip.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Now, if while you're doing that, your body rotates 100 degrees.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So you land with your body in the. With your opposite foot in the forward direction.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's called a sex change. Okay.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not kidding. In skateboarding, it's called a sex change. The components of the trick are a kickflip body varial. Body varial is when your body spins. Kickflip sex change.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

There's another trick in skateboarding called a cancel flip, and I'm particularly capable of these tricks. I'm very good at them. When you do a kickflip and the board is coming around, but you stop it and push it back the other way, you cancel reversing it, you have canceled the flip. Well, just recently, I have invented a new skateboard trick. I did what's called a kickflip sex change cancel. And thus, by canceling the flip, I dubbed this trick the detransition.

[Michael Knowles]

Detransition.

[Tim Pool]

This is not a joke. It is literally on my Instagram.

[Michael Knowles]

You pulled it off. You did the trick, or you just conceptualized it? I did it.

[Tim Pool]

I literally did it. So we've got some of the top pro skateboarders. They write for us, they film for us. And I was playing a game of skate, which is much like horse and basketball, with one of our team writers, and I said, I got an idea. And within a coup, like, I almost landed it immediately. First time I ever tried it. And so I went to a couple of the pros that work with us, and I said, hey, I just came up with this idea for a trick. You want to film this? They filmed me land a couple of them, and they all said, we have never seen that trick before. And I said, I'm not sure I've ever seen a sex change cancel flip, but you can't call it that. It's too mouthy.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I said, what? How can I create a cultural element in the oral tradition of skateboarding that would be as offensive to the left as possible?

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, the detriment. And as precise. I mean, that sounds precise and accurate. That would be the detriment. So is it like. Is it like in physical science or something where if you discover something, you get to name it?

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So skateboarding is largely oral tradition.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So the original term for kickflip was called magic flip, and that was Rodney Mullen who invented it. But the will of the people speaketh, and they started calling it kickflips, and it doesn't matter what you want to call it. So it may be that many of these woke leftist skateboarders refuse to use that phrase. And then they start yelling at me and trying to get me banned on Instagram, but I actually thought it wasn't intentionally offensive. I said it's the most accurate way to describe it.

[Michael Knowles]

What else would you call it? What else would you call it? Right.

[Tim Pool]

I have canceled the sex change. Yeah, it's a detransition flip.

[Michael Knowles]

That's beautiful.

[Tim Pool]

So I would read now, right? I think you read the kickflip one.

[Michael Knowles]

I like how you know the rules better than I do.

[Tim Pool]

I've seen something unexplainable that would be described as aliens, ghosts, or angels.

[Michael Knowles]

I'm answering for you.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, I think.

[Michael Knowles]

I think that's my show. I should probably know. You're looking real tight at that cart. You don't want me to read your eyes on this, you know, let me give it.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, indeed. Indeed.

[Michael Knowles]

You know why I said yes? Not because I've ever heard a specific anecdote from you. The reason I said yes is because I think most everyone has.

[Tim Pool]

I agree. And the only challenge with it I could be. I could be a. And say no because I wouldn't describe them as these things. But no, no, no. So I've had a few experiences when I was younger. I woke up in the middle of the night, laying on my bed, and I saw what I would describe as. You ever see the reflection of water on a ceiling when there's light beaming on a pool?

[Michael Knowles]

Oh, sure, sure.

[Tim Pool]

That was on the floor of my bedroom, and I was awake. This was not a dream. I was awake and I had an instant adrenaline rush and rolled over. And this was probably when I was like 12. And I remember it vividly. I remember exactly what happened because it was terrifying. The unknown on my floor, what looked like, and it was very bright. And I have no explanation for it. I don't know. But who knows?

[Michael Knowles]

It was terrifying. CS Lewis says there are three kinds of scary. You know, there's the fear of A tiger in the other room, because the tiger could eat you. And then there's the fear of a ghost in the other room, which uncanny. And you're not afraid that the ghost is going to eat you, you're just afraid that there are ghosts, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'm not just generally afraid. If I saw a ghost walk in this room, I would not be. I wouldn't have the same kind of fear. I think when I was a kid. You're a kid. It's the unknown.

[Michael Knowles]

It's the unknown. It's the uncanny.

[Tim Pool]

The fact that you're completely unprepared. I think at this age, if a veiled woman drifted, just phased through the door into this room, I don't think I'd be scared. I'd grab my phone and I'd start filming.

[Michael Knowles]

You'd say, salaam alaikum. If, you know, that would be a little more opaque. There wouldn't be this transparency moving through the walls.

[Tim Pool]

I might be like, did you build this studio on a burial ground?

[Michael Knowles]

Indian burial ground or something?

[Tim Pool]

I have a bunch of other stories too, that, you know, that are weird, but that's the one that.

[Michael Knowles]

But you wouldn't. Okay, now, I hate to take the point away from myself, but you saw something that was weird and eerie. Yeah, but it wasn't like it didn't have a personality.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. So that's why aliens, ghosts or something. It was an unexplained phenomenon, I think it's fair to say. Hits at the heart of the question.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, okay. All right, I'll take it. I'll take the point. I'll take.

[Tim Pool]

I will take a drink of this delicious tea.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, see, you get the caffeine, you get the upper. This is why I'm going a little slower on my martini.

[Tim Pool]

I think he should be.

[Michael Knowles]

It's been a long week. Yeah. If I just slam it right now and finish this show. Speaking in cursive, Tim Poole claims to be a friend to religion but clearly engaged in witchcraft by resurrecting. Okay, come on. This is not. Hold on. This is not. I'll read the line. But Tim Pool claims to be a friend of religion but clearly engaged in witchcraft by resurrecting the Victorian era ghost of Mary Morgan to host one of his shows. Mary Morgan is a very beautiful young woman and she doesn't strike me as a cult or ghostly. She maybe a little Victorian, I think, actually Victorian.

[Tim Pool]

But the chat nickname for his ghost girl. But she has lovely fair skin. They're giving me a freebie.

[Michael Knowles]

It's a freebie.

[Tim Pool]

It's a freebie because you can't reasonably say she's actually a victim era ghost who's been in your studio and on your show.

[Michael Knowles]

Do we mean resurrect in, like, a metaphorical Jungian kind of sense, or do we mean.

[Tim Pool]

I suppose you can choose.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, no, I'm not gonna be. I'm not gonna steal.

[Tim Pool]

Lawyer. That rules. Lawyer me, huh?

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, that. No, you're right. Mary Morgan, albeit somewhat Victorian and of lovely pallid skin, is not. Is not a Victorian arrogance.

[Tim Pool]

Nope. Just a Gen Z social commentator, I suppose. All right. Shall I.

[Michael Knowles]

You're up.

[Tim Pool]

What do we have here? I would trust a Haitian migrant with my pet over Seamus Coughlin around my grandmother's silver dining set.

[Michael Knowles]

Mm. Easy, easy.

[Tim Pool]

Right, okay. You know, I will give it to you.

[Michael Knowles]

Because you know what he did.

[Tim Pool]

I do know what he did. And I will say this outside of, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats. Honestly, if I met a Haitian migrant, I have no fear they're actually gonna eat my animal.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. They might just do voodoo with it.

[Tim Pool]

But in all seriousness, they wouldn't. You know what I mean? Right. But here's what I have to say about old Seamus Coughlin is I'll tell you the story. So he's staying at my place. He's on the show for several months, and we have a fully finished basement. And so we're like, you know, come stay with us. Well, one day, you know, I think Allison is making coffee, and there's no spoons. And she's like, where are the spoons? And I was like, oh, you know, maybe Seamus made coffee and he's putting them in the sink downstairs.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so then I just very politely like, hey, Seamus, can you bring the silverware up and we'll do the dishes? And he's like, yeah, you got it, buddy. He walks upstairs with a handful of spoons, and he puts them in the sink. And then he says to me, there's an Irish man who lives under my house, and he's stealing all my spoons as just a joke he's making. As he's doing it passively, I bust out laughing. He's very funny. And then the joke that he made up is that he stole my spoons when, in fact, I did not accuse him. But now it's a running gag, and. And Allison says she never actually got all the spoons back.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, that's the thing. It's. You know, maybe in every joke, there's a little hint of truth.

[Tim Pool]

Seamus made the joke. But then Allison goes, you know, we didn't get all the spoons back. We don't know. They must still be down there. I guess.

[Michael Knowles]

Did he make a joke or a confession? That's what I wanted to know.

[Tim Pool]

He needed to confess, but he didn't want to do it directly because he wanted plausible deniability.

[Michael Knowles]

That's right. That's like. I think the Illuminati do stuff like that.

[Tim Pool]

So, wait, wait. Am I supposed to drink or was that just left there?

[Michael Knowles]

I think we both get to drink.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, I'll just have.

[Michael Knowles]

That's what I say. Maybe I kind of want one of these olives. It's almost lunchtime.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I bought some garlic stuffed olives. They're the best.

[Michael Knowles]

You know, they say that if you don't start drinking in the morning, you can't drink all day.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I wouldn't know that.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, the average 4B woman oath will last as long as Tim's cancellation of irl. Wow, that's a tough one. Actually, we'll just slide that one over there.

[Tim Pool]

No, you say no.

[Michael Knowles]

Actually, no. So Tim's cancellation of IRL lasted about 14 hours, I believe, to be hilarious.

[Tim Pool]

To be fair, was never an actual cancellation.

[Michael Knowles]

It wasn't a full on. It was a raising the prospect of canceling. Yeah. But for the 4B women, I don't think it's gonna be a day or two or a week or whatever. I think for some of these women. I saw one of the four B videos. It was very sad. I don't mean to make fun of this woman. And she goes, she goes, man, I'm gonna. Today, Trump won. I'm gonna smoke cigarettes. I'm gonna get a tattoo. I don't. I'm angry. I'm not doing 4B. I'm gonna swear off men. And, you know, I'm already. I mean, coincidentally, my boyfriend and I broke up a couple days before the election, but. Da, da, da. It's like these women are just sad and angry about other stuff. And Trump is kind of the target of all that.

[Tim Pool]

That's one way to put it. I'd say histrionic. Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

To use a popular and traditional word, histrionic.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I wonder why they're filming themselves crying. There's one video where there's a mother, she puts her camera phone on a stand in front of her and films herself telling her children that Trump won. And then you hear the kids screaming, crying, and I kind of feel like that's child abuse.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But you know, I don't know.

[Michael Knowles]

I kind of think that mothers using social media in front of or with children is in itself child abuse.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think kids should be on social media.

[Michael Knowles]

No way. No way.

[Tim Pool]

It's crazy. And, you know, I'll squeeze in. Well, actually, I'll save this one in case a question comes up.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay. All right. Just to put the button on it, I think some of these women, they have deeper problems. It's good to be chased, but I don't know that that's totally what this is about.

[Tim Pool]

So do I drink? Because I got it wrong?

[Michael Knowles]

Is that how you have to drink and I get to drink?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay.

[Michael Knowles]

That's right. It's all about the verb.

[Tim Pool]

All right, now I will read.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Only a few left. The Ukraine war will end before the war in Gaza.

[Michael Knowles]

I think they're. I think they're both going to end before Trump even enters office. And I think you probably think the same thing. The question is, which comes first? It's tough also because the Ukraine war is more complex than this specific war in Gaza. However, the war in Gaza could end immediately. But if Trump told Netanyahu to wrap it up before election Day, Netanyahu might go hog on Tehran before. This is a complex statecraft. I'm going to say the war. There's going to be land negotiation. No, the war in Gaza will end before the war in Ukraine.

[Tim Pool]

That is the right answer. And the reason is it's already been reported that Hamas has called for the war to end.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. About five minutes after Trump battle. That's right.

[Tim Pool]

And Trump Jr tweets, My dad's not even in office yet and they're already begging to end the war. And I think, I think there was a reporting of. The Houthis have put out a statement saying, would you effectively please forgive us? They're terrified of what Donald Trump does once he gets in office. And I love it, cuz hopefully he doesn't have to do anything.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But I agree. It is much more likely that the war in Israel ends. As you mentioned, Trump says, wrap it up. I don't want this on my plate.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He did say he'd end Ukraine. In 24 hours of getting elected as President elect, he'd get on the phone and say, wrap it up. It hasn't, but I think the current iteration of the Gaza war ends. So I would say.

[Michael Knowles]

Right. He might have just misspoken over which major global conflict was gonna end within 24 hours. Yeah, yeah, okay. I read J.D. vance is more likely to finish this term than Trump is.

[Tim Pool]

Mm. You know what's tough?

[Michael Knowles]

Cause it could go two ways.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. What's tough about that is the term more likely and what I think versus what I think you would say obviously is always the thing. But I think you're a man of good logic and math, so I will do this.

[Michael Knowles]

Do you? No, I would say no.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Michael Knowles]

Yes. Because, look, I'm not saying Trump is 25 years old. I just think he's got good genes in his family. They live a long time, the Trumps, when they basically take care of themselves.

[Tim Pool]

So you're bad at math is what you're saying. I thought you were better at math.

[Michael Knowles]

But there's another way to take the question, which is it could be taken that the libs are going to try to assassinate him again. And so that is a legitimate fear. And that would be a cause of JD Finishing the term. I just think, man, last second, you turn your head 20 degrees. I think Trump's role in this world is not yet finished.

[Tim Pool]

But the reason why I said yes is because I think as a fact question, the answer is yes. And that is you would say that.

[Michael Knowles]

An average American, if Trump were an average American, it would be likely that he would not finish his term.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, I'm not saying he's not likely to finish it. I'm saying it doesn't matter if it's Trump. It doesn't matter if it's JD Vance. If you take insert 78 year old man and insert 40 year old man, is there a higher probability that the younger man serves for us, it's 100%.

[Michael Knowles]

Well, it's four years.

[Tim Pool]

I shouldn't say 100%. The probability that J.D. vance finishes his term is higher regardless of whether J.D.

[Michael Knowles]

Vance finishes his Term as VP or he finishes his term as meaning. Do you mean it's more likely? This is the problem with how these are right.

[Tim Pool]

Let me see it again.

[Michael Knowles]

Is it more likely that Trump finishes Trump's term or that JD Finishes Trump's term?

[Tim Pool]

JD Vance is more likely to finish this term than Trump is. This specific term is a fact. As a question, as a statement, as a question of fact is true. Regardless of what you think about politics, regardless of assassinations or anything like that, Trump is older than J.D. vance.

[Michael Knowles]

But it's only true if. What's the American life expectancy?

[Tim Pool]

79.

[Michael Knowles]

79. So it's true for if Trump is the average American or indicative of the average American. Yes, but I don't think he is.

[Tim Pool]

So I accept that your no is of sound logic.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, all right, that's good.

[Tim Pool]

And then I read this last one.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And then no matter what you put, I'm going to say wrong so that I can just get an extra point. We should start a performative holiday on January 6th, a la Guy Fawkes Day, just to remind Congress that they're never more than one mistake away from a good old Capitol storm.

[Michael Knowles]

They're never more than one mistake away from amiable Florida men taking selfies in the rotunda. Right, yeah, yeah, we need a holiday on January 6th. Yeah, that'd be super funny. So. Yeah, I think it'd be really funny.

[Tim Pool]

It's marginal for me, but I'll say you are correct.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm thinking about, you know, we have. Remember, remember the 5th of November.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

We could do something like wish, wish for January 6th.

[Michael Knowles]

Wish, wish for January 6th, the day.

[Tim Pool]

When the people arose. And we'll come up with a rhyme for it. You know what Guy Fawkes was trying to do, right?

[Michael Knowles]

Are you familiar he was trying to restore some sense to the UK government?

[Tim Pool]

Is that what you're saying?

[Michael Knowles]

Some would say. Some would call it.

[Tim Pool]

He wanted to blow up Parliament to install a Christian theocracy.

[Michael Knowles]

Catholic.

[Tim Pool]

Catholic, sorry, Catholic, Yeah, that's correct.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes. That would be by definition a Christian.

[Tim Pool]

And it would be fascinating. It's more professional state to watch these Internet leftists don his mask and run around.

[Michael Knowles]

I know. It's amazing that they take the Catholic side over the Anglican establishment side. I'm still working on the rhyme. Buffalo skins are hairy on the 6th of January. Is that or. I'm just going through the Alphabet. Congressmen are wary on the 6th of January. That's not bad.

[Tim Pool]

Congressmen, be wary, be wary.

[Michael Knowles]

Because you might end up in the background of some Florida man's photo holding Nancy Pelosi's lectern. Yeah, you're right.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Michael Knowles]

That's good. Okay. All right. So who won?

[Tim Pool]

I think you won, didn't you?

[Michael Knowles]

I won by won.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, I take it back.

[Michael Knowles]

He was wrong.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Michael Knowles]

The last one, I said hold on. No. Are there take backs, Mr. Poole? First of all, everyone, obviously you probably already do watch Tim Cass irl, which exists, and also all the other shows and everything else that Tim is doing, and make sure that you go out there and try to do the D trans trick on a skateboard. Mr. Poole, I'll see you next time.

[Tim Pool]

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