YES or NO: Xaviaer DuRousseau

Summary

**Podcast Summary: "YES or NO: Xaviaer DuRousseau"
The Michael Knowles Show
Release Date: July 4, 2025

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Introduction to the Episode and Game

In this engaging episode of The Michael Knowles Show, host Michael Knowles introduces a playful yet revealing segment titled "YES or NO." Joining him is guest Xaviaer DuRousseau Mongrand Amie. The premise of the game is straightforward: one asks a yes-or-no question, the other answers privately, and then they guess each other's responses. Points are awarded for correct guesses, with the playful consequence of the loser having to perform a humorous dare. The atmosphere is light-hearted, setting the stage for candid and often contentious discussions on various socio-political topics.

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Key Discussions and Topics

1. Conspiracy Theories: Diddy as a Federal Agent

[03:40]
Xaviaer initiates a provocative topic by suggesting that famous rapper Diddy might be a federal agent (a "Fed"). Michael concurs, sparking a debate about the prevalence of such conspiracies:

• Xaviaer: "When I say Fed, I feel like that means you have some type of ties to powerful entities and the shadow government..." [04:34]
• Michael: "In any radical movement or criminal enterprise... the federal government always kind of gets in there." [04:50]

The discussion delves into the idea that high-profile individuals might be under federal surveillance or influence, questioning the authenticity of Diddy's public persona and behavior.

2. Elon Musk's Political Associations and Public Image

[05:17]
The conversation shifts to Elon Musk, analyzing the impact of his political affiliations, particularly his relationship with former President Trump:

• Michael: "They'll forgive you if you just turn on the right winger... in a long enough time frame, that will be true of Elon Musk." [07:17]
• Xaviaer: "I don't think the left is all suddenly going to like him because he started beefing with Trump." [07:53]

They debate whether Musk's alignment with certain political figures will shield him from backlash or lead to further controversy, especially regarding his personal life and public behavior.

3. Reparations and Racial Discussions

[25:14]
A significant portion of the episode tackles the complex issue of reparations for historical injustices:

• Xaviaer: "Reparations would be worth the price if we never had to talk about race again." [25:27]
• Michael: "Reparations is ghetto and completely unworkable..." [25:44]

They explore the feasibility of reparations, the challenges in defining eligibility, and the broader implications for racial discourse in America. The conversation highlights differing perspectives on how society should address historical grievances and ongoing racial tensions.

4. Cultural Appropriation and Identity

[34:38]
The duo delves into cultural appropriation, particularly focusing on practices like dyeing hair blonde:

• Michael: "It's appropriating the culture of the early 2000s." [34:58]
• Xaviaer: "I could not have convinced me I wasn't a pop star." [35:10]

They discuss the nuances of cultural exchange versus appropriation, emphasizing the importance of respecting cultural origins while acknowledging personal identity choices.

5. Black History Month vs. Pride Month

[29:19]
The episode contrasts Black History Month and Pride Month, examining their purposes and societal receptions:

• Xaviaer: "Black History Month has become this, like, constant peddling of communist legacy, victim oppression." [29:11]
• Michael: "Talking about race isn't always a bad thing, but reparations is." [30:09]

They critique how Black History Month is portrayed, arguing that it often focuses excessively on struggles rather than achievements, and compare it to Pride Month's role in celebrating diversity.

6. Rapid Fire Round Highlights

[30:51]
The rapid-fire segment features quick questions that reveal personal stances and provoke thought:

• Question: "Is it okay to racially profile while...?"
  Michael Answered: "Yes." [31:05]

• Question: "Is there at least some evidence that the earth might be flat?"
  Xaviaer Answered: "Maybe." [31:41]

• Question: "Should Justin Bieber be in a conservatorship?"
  Michael Answered: "Yes, he should." [34:27]

• Question: "Is dyed blonde hair cultural appropriation?"
  Michael Answered: "Yes, it is." [34:57]

• Final Question: "Should gay men be allowed to adopt children?"
  Michael Answered: "Yes." [36:44]

These rapid exchanges highlight the hosts' differing viewpoints, particularly on sensitive social issues, and add a dynamic element to the episode.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Xaviaer on Diddy as a Fed:
  "For him to have gotten away with all of his nefarious behavior... it's like, okay, everything in the dark is coming to the light." [04:34]

• Michael on Reparations:
  "Reparations is ghetto and completely unworkable." [25:44]

• Xaviaer on Cultural Appropriation:
  "I could not have convinced me I wasn't a pop star." [35:10]

• Michael on Racial Slurs:
  "There’s nothing wrong with having a special affection for your own family, first of all, and your own community and even your own race." [27:35]

• Xaviaer on Black History Month:
  "Black History Month has become this, like, constant peddling of communist legacy, victim oppression." [29:11]

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Insights and Conclusions

Throughout the episode, Michael and Xaviaer engage in a robust exchange of ideas, blending humor with serious commentary. Key insights include:

• Skepticism of Public Figures: Both hosts exhibit a distrust of high-profile personalities, suggesting hidden agendas or ulterior motives behind their public actions.

• Complexity of Reparations: The discussion underscores the difficulties in implementing reparations, from defining eligibility to addressing systemic racial issues, revealing a divide in how reparations are perceived as a solution.

• Cultural Sensitivity: They highlight the fine line between cultural appreciation and appropriation, advocating for respect and understanding of diverse cultural practices.

• Media Influence on Racial Narratives: The episode critiques how media portrays racial issues, arguing that narratives often emphasize victimhood rather than achievement, which can perpetuate stereotypes and hinder progress.

• Polarized Social Issues: The rapid-fire segment illustrates the polarized nature of contemporary social debates, revealing deeply held beliefs and the challenges in finding common ground.

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Conclusion

"YES or NO: Xaviaer DuRousseau" serves as a microcosm of the current socio-political landscape, showcasing the clash of perspectives between conservative viewpoints and progressive ideologies. Through lively dialogue and pointed questions, Michael Knowles and Xaviaer DuRousseau Mongrand Amie navigate contentious topics with a mix of humor and conviction, offering listeners a thought-provoking exploration of race, culture, and political discourse in 2025.

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Notable Advertisement Segments Omitted:
The summary intentionally excludes advertisement segments promoting products such as Good Ranchers, Balance of Nature, and Oregon Lottery, as well as the episode's introductory and concluding promotional content.

Transcript

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[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Michael, do you think you deserve a soft a n word? Pass.

[Michael Knowles]

I like standards. I like taboos. It's a little ghetto on my mother's side. I'm Sicilian and Calabrese and the Sicilians, kind of African.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Are.

[Michael Knowles]

Welcome to yes or no. The bibulous battle to discover who knows whom better. My guest today is Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie. How do we play? I will ask Xavier a yes or no question. He will select his answer away from my prying eyes. Then I'll guess how he answered. If I guess correctly, I get a point. If I guess incorrectly, I lose a point. No matter what, I will probably end up drinking. Then it's Xavier's turn. Neither of us has seen the questions beforehand. Whoever has the most points at the end wins. The stakes could be higher. Good to see you, sir.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Great to see you.

[Michael Knowles]

Thank you for making it into the studio.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Thanks for having me.

[Michael Knowles]

What are you drinking?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

A French 75.

[Michael Knowles]

That is a marvelously civilized drink.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Right?

[Michael Knowles]

I'm having a little less, maybe a little bit of a sturdier drink, but less civilized, less graceful. A martini. Chin chin. To your health. Look at that. L' Chaim Kevin. L' Chaim Kevin. The bartender makes it very, very stiff and tall.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I'm very picky with my French 75s. And this understood the assignment?

[Michael Knowles]

It did. Wow, Great. Okay. Now that you're a little liquored up, there's usually a wager. Wager on the game.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Absolutely.

[Michael Knowles]

Do you have anything you're trying to bet me?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Because you and I have one thing in common. A few things, but one major thing. We're both barbs.

[Michael Knowles]

Huge barbs.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

We love Nicki Minaj.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I want you to memorize a Nicki Minaj verse, record yourself rapping it, and post it online.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, yes, okay.

[Michael Knowles]

Happily. In fact, I might do that if I win.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

As you should.

[Michael Knowles]

Now, I've got a stiffer one for you. Cause you have that very interesting hair. I don't have. Your hair is like a blank canvas. A tabula rasa natural, by the way. Yeah, I can tell. I want you to imprint in dye or in scissors, my logo into your hair.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay, well, you will.

[Michael Knowles]

I don't want to. I don't want. That's a steeper one than the one you offered me.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know what? I'm more than happy to be a walking builder.

[Michael Knowles]

Let's go. Let's go. I should have had you do the Mayflower set MK show. That's fine. Okay. You know the rules.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I do.

[Michael Knowles]

I don't. Is Diddy a Fed? I have to guess how you would answer, so you lock in your answer and I'm gonna guess.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes, he's a Fed. He's a Fed. Right?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You are correct.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Okay, now we get to drink. You know, what does it mean? Everyone's a Fed. This guy's a fed, that guy's a Fed. What does it even mean? I mean, I understand the federal apparatus is very large and there are a lot of informants and things, but what does it mean for Diddy to be a Fed?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know, when I say Fed, I feel like that means that you have some type of ties to powerful entities and the shadow government, essentially. And when it comes to Diddy, he had way too many things going on for some high level people to not know about it, let alone not be involved. So for him to have gotten away with all of his nefarious behavior, which even I knew about, and I'm not even in that space, for me to know about it for all these years, it's like, okay, everything in the dark is coming to the light. And I feel like he must have either ticked off the wrong person or was just the lowest hanging fruit amongst the Feds. But I really think it's because he got too sloppy and the feds had to cut him off. And this is why he's getting exposed.

[Michael Knowles]

Interesting. Yeah, because that we have this idea as a Fed, like he's a double agent or something. That's not usually the case. But in any radical movement or criminal enterprise, whether it's the Black Panthers or the radical feminists or the neo Nazis, whatever, any of these people, the federal government always kind of gets in there. And often some of the big leaders, even prominent figures, are informing because the feds get something on them and they say all right, well, if you. So with Diddy, it's not that Diddy is like Men in Black. He's being trained up at Langley or something. It's just they got him on something and they say, all right, well, you're going to inform for us or you're going to point us in the right direction until the freak offs just. They run dry. You're going to arrest him.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

They're all itching and burning in Los Angeles and Miami. It is so nasty.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, that's gross.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And I don't fully think Cassie's innocent either.

[Michael Knowles]

That's the wife or the girlfriend?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

The girlfriend. She's definitely a victim of a lot of abuse, but she's not innocent either. I mean, come on. It's like there comes a point where it's like you are at this point, an accomplice. You're telling me you're sitting around watching all this abuse happen, All. All this alleged trafficking happening, and you for 10 years didn't say anything?

[Michael Knowles]

I can't believe you would victim blame like that. Don't you know that women are always completely innocent and never do anything wrong? Look, according to the media.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Look, I think there's a jail cell waiting for her, too.

[Michael Knowles]

Whoa. Okay. You're up.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Mr. Knowles.

[Michael Knowles]

Mm.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Will Elon's falling out with Trump hurt Tesla stocks more than his original endorsement did? You don't think that.

[Michael Knowles]

I do not. I was going back and forth, though, because Elon, it's kind of like his first campaign, it seems like. I remember my first campaign when I was 19, except he's a billionaire, you know, super genius. But it's like that first campaign where you make a few missteps. And so for him, he had all these big companies. He then signs up with Trump, which damages his companies, so he alienates half of the customers. Then he has a falling out with Trump in a particularly hostile way. So then he falls out with other customers. So at that point, you think. And he didn't even get the electric vehicle credit out of it. So you think, okay, this guy made a lot of bad calculations for his businesses. Though maybe ideologically he had the best intentions. However, the reason I had to say no is they'll forgive you if you just turn on the right winger. They will forgive you. They'll forgive a member of the Cheney family, Liz Cheney. They'll forgive the Cheneys. They called that guy Darth Vader. They will forgive the Cheneys. They'll forgive the Bushes. Bush was Hitler, too. They'll forgive Adam Kinzinger. I don't think anyone ever cared about, but they'll forgive all these guys if you just turn on the right winger. And I think in a long enough time frame, that will be true of Elon Musk.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

See, I feel like long term there's some element to truth to that. I think the left eventually does forgive you once you start drinking all the Kool Aid that they want you to drink. But I feel like it is always going to be more consequential to align with Trump than it's going to be to. Than to condemn Trump. So because of the whole chaos that started when Elon started associating with Trump, I don't think it could get any messier for him with that. So I don't think one that the left is all suddenly going to like him because he started beefing with Trump.

[Michael Knowles]

No, no.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And I also don't think that the right to go out of their way to be against him either, because at the very least, he gave us X.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, no, I'm not gonna. I'm not against Elon. I'm grateful to Elon.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's like the only thing I'm against with Elon is like his whole, you know, baby mama thing. He has way too many baby mamas. It's getting ghetto. It's ghetto.

[Michael Knowles]

There's a phrase classy when you're rich, trashy when you're poor. And there's certain things. A buddy of mine was explaining this to me, like, eating cheese for dinner is classy when you're rich, but trashy when you're poor.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Valid.

[Michael Knowles]

Having a ton of kids, classy when you're rich, trashy when you're poor. So, like, Elon kind of gets away with it. But, you know, there's no question, conservatives say what we say accurately about family, and we kind of gave Elon a little bit of a pass just because he's really helped us. He's on the team. You form coalitions of people who you don't agree with on everything. And I agree. I wouldn't turn on Elon over it. I'm grateful for what he did, but I don't know that other right wingers won't. I think that's why Elon tried to make up real quick.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

See, I'm not anti Elon at all, but, you know, seeing him as an African American man, I really who don't want him to be feeding into this father absence stereotype. And right now, it is just so out of control.

[Michael Knowles]

The consummate African American in America, no doubt about it. No, yeah, you're right. You're right. Wow.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Because, like, even Nick Cannon gets a lot of flack for all his kids. But at least it's like a somewhat logical order. It's like you look at the chart of Elon's baby mamas, it's like he is going back and forth. It is just too much.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow, that's. Yeah, it's too much. That's sort of. Well, look, Genghis Khan. You and I might both be descended from Genghis Khan. Okay? Fireworks. Love it. Barbecue. Essential. But if you really want to celebrate freedom this Independence Day, do it with ideas that endure. Do it the Daily Wire way. Right now, during the Daily Wire + Fourth of July sale, we are celebrating freedom by giving you six months free when you become an annual member. That is six months of fearless journalism, culture defining entertainment, and the pursuit of truth that would make our founding fathers proud. This is not just a deal. It's a declaration of reason and values that still matter. Celebrate freedom the right way. Go to DailyWirePlus.com, use code FREEDOM and get six months free today. Before this prompt, we have to watch this video. She got up. Give me a break.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

That driver did what they needed to do.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Okay, so, well, here's the prompt. This actually kind of helps. Helps me with you.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, dang it.

[Michael Knowles]

Is this totally justified? So I'm gonna answer for you before you even answer for me, Right?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Well, I'm not gonna lie to you.

[Michael Knowles]

No doubt. No doubt it's justified. What would. What would people say? It wouldn't be justified for? Because they'll say, well, just whenever you're in a car, you don't have any right to. You know, it's like a guy walks out in the crosswalk. You just always have to stop.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

First of all, move, like, get out the way. People have places to be.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay. People have to go get the rent paid. People need to go pick up their kids. Unlike Elon, people have things that they need to go do. And why are you in the street? And if you're stopping me from getting to where I need to go, I basically feel kidnapped. And that's what you're not going to do to me.

[Michael Knowles]

So.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

So these people.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, to me, that's more it. Cause it's like, look, I get angry today. I don't know, twice a year. I wake up on the wrong side of the bed. I was irritated this morning. I'm driving, and these people are driving slow, and I'm weaving around like I'm Vin Diesel on the Drive to the office. But that's one thing, like, oh, I gotta get to work, or whatever. Another is, imagine you got a sick kid in the car, you're going to the hospital. Or just imagine you just have your kids in the car and you have these lunatics who are threatening violence around you. Sorry, lady, I'm gonna. I'm hitting the accelerator.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Exactly.

[Michael Knowles]

And I'm totally justified in doing it. It's illegal in certain places.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know, I don't even have to be busy. I can be by myself on the way to Pilates. If you are in the way of my vehicle.

[Michael Knowles]

Uh huh.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You may just get hit. You may just get hit.

[Michael Knowles]

They don't even need to threaten you. But if they're threatening me, you know what I would say if they're threatening me, I'd say I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. You know what I'm saying? Ooh. You know what I'm saying, man?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Fair enough. I'm not gonna risk my life.

[Michael Knowles]

That's a little wisdom from the streets. All right, you're up.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I gave you that point.

[Michael Knowles]

Mm.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Mr. Knowles.

[Michael Knowles]

Mm.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

So actually, we need to watch this video before the next prompt. Can the black people of Los Angeles please stop stealing? Because I just got racially profiled at a Nordstrom and I can't even be fully mad at the sales rep because y' all are committing a disproportionate amount of crime. Every time I see a video of a Nordstrom getting robbed, who is it? What do they look like?

[Michael Knowles]

I kind of jumped out at me right there at the end. What do they look like? They Irish, aren't they? Not quite. Not quite. Okay, so what's the prompt?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

So the question for you is, Michael, do you think you deserve a soft a N word? Pass.

[Michael Knowles]

Do. Okay. And you have to guess how I would answer.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yes, I think you do.

[Michael Knowles]

You know why? Hold on before you. So you think I think that.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I think that you think.

[Michael Knowles]

Why do I. Why do you do I think that before we get into whether you think I actually deserve the pass. Why would I think that?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Well, I think that you think that because you're all about free speech and I mean, I feel like you shouldn't be gay, kept from saying certain words.

[Michael Knowles]

But I like standards. I like standards. I like taboos. I like politeness. I like civilization. I think there are certain people who shouldn't go around saying that word. Why should I get too classy?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I think you're too classy. I'm too classy around Saying that it's a little ghetto. Like, I was very. I deserved to be a little ratchet in that moment because I was pressed. All I wanted was.

[Michael Knowles]

You got racially profiled.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yes.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Can't blame them. But I just wanted Chelsea Boots.

[Michael Knowles]

You know what I say? The reason I should be able to say it, even though I might not say it, because though I have an Anglo side, the Knowles side. English comes down from the Mayflower. Even part of the family, which is a great cigar company, the Mayflower Cigars. But on my mother's side, I'm Sicilian. And Calabrese and the Sicilians, they're kind of African. They're the Africans of Europe. Are you black? I might be. Like, I'm not. I did the DNA test where they can, like, take your DNA and clone you or whatever. And it says, I'm not African, but I'm Sicilian. And as Christopher Walken might ask in that movie, what's the difference?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I mean, if you round up, it's basically the same.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes. Yeah. But I. Okay, now, do you think I should get the pass?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

If you want one.

[Michael Knowles]

If I want one. But do you think anyone should get the pass? Like, it's just free speech. Whatever.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Look, I. It's like black people have too much going on to be worried about what other people have to say. I really don't care. Now, I will say, like white people. You have to be careful going around saying it with other black people. Cause, you know, black people sometimes choose violence.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

For me, personally, it's like, why do I care? The amount of unhinged things that I say. Please, please. And I'm 2% Chinese, so it's like, I'm more worried about Asian business at this point rather than, like, this word and this black folk business. I don't care.

[Michael Knowles]

I also prefer. I agree with you. I don't like harsh racial slurs of any sort. I really don't like that. I find them nasty. Black people, Mexicans, Jews, I don't like them. But I do like whimsical racial slurs. So I like. Like. Actually speaking of the Italian people, there's a slur among Italian Americans for black people. You know what it is?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

What is that?

[Michael Knowles]

Can I say? I don't even. I guess I'll say whatever most people does. Moulin Yan, they say Moulin.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Mooli.

[Michael Knowles]

And Moulin Yan refers to eggplant. They call them eggplants, which is kind of funny. It's not like that. Offensive. It's not like you're calling him A terrible evil person. Just say the guy looks like an eggplant because his skin's darker.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, I thought it was implying something, but like, BBC, I was like, that is just so over sexual.

[Michael Knowles]

That's so flattering. Wow, thank you for that epithet. Yeah, that's.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I was gonna say, not every stereotype's a slap in the face, I guess. Well, you know the one that I'm pretty sure in Mander. I don't know how to say it, but I'm pretty sure it's the same word for ghost. Is what they call black people in China.

[Michael Knowles]

Is it what they call black people? You think that's what they would call white people?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You would think. But it's like when you turn the lights off, you can't see us. So it's like ghosts. That's what an old co worker of mine told me. I don't know if he was just trying to cook me low key.

[Michael Knowles]

That's pretty good. Okay, all right. That's pretty funny.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And you know what? I totally would have believed if you were black because Knowles. Beyonce Knowles? Like, yes, that's my cousin. That's your cousin?

[Michael Knowles]

My cousin, yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You kind of look alike. If I swam.

[Michael Knowles]

We do. And you gotta see my dance moves.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh.

[Michael Knowles]

I taught her everything she knows, actually.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Wow.

[Michael Knowles]

At the old Knowles family reunions in Kennebunkport.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Wow.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

So it wasn't Tina Knowles?

[Michael Knowles]

No, no, certainly not. Actually, I sometimes get on, like, Google alerts and things. I get things intended for her father because I think her dad's name is Matthew Knowles. But sometimes they write Michael and they confuse the two. So anyway, all right, basically the conclusion is I can use whatever racial slurs I want, period. Right. Okay. Because I am a black man. All right, hold on. I have a lot more pearls of wisdom. First, though, go to balanceofnature.com use promo code knowles K, N O W L E S. You've heard me talk about balance of nature many times before. That's because balance of nature, fruits and veggies, is the most convenient way to get whole fruits and vegetables daily. Especially if you're focused on creating a healthier, happier lifestyle. Nature is pretty good at giving us the nutrients we need through our fruits and vegetables. So balance of nature takes fruits and veggies, freeze, dries them, turns them into a powder, and puts them into a capsule. You take your fruit and veggie capsules every day, and then your body knows what to do with them. Balance of nature is just one ingredient of a balanced lifestyle. Has no intention to replace a healthy diet, exercise, sleep, or any other healthy habits. It is intended to be used in concert with other healthy habits. Especially for me, someone who's on the road a lot. When sweet little Lisa isn't making me my fruits and veggies, it's nice to have a way to, you know, make sure I get them on the go. I don't just collapse from ill health. Go to balanceofnature.com use promo code knowles canada wles for 35% off your first order as a prefer customer. Plus get a free bottle of fiber and spice. That is balanceofnature.com promo code K N O W L E S. I'm up. Everyone in the Republic is welcome in the Republican Party, in particular Nicki Minaj fans. However, we draw the line at liking sexy two X's red. Duh duh, two D's. So barbs are in, but the sexy Red fans are out. Gotta clear our buttons. I sort of know who Nicki Minaj is, as you well know. She did a song with Paul McCartney. I have never heard of Sexyy Red.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Did she do a song with Paul McCartney?

[Michael Knowles]

She did. She did a song. Oh, no, I'm thinking of Rihanna.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

That's Rihanna.

[Michael Knowles]

That was Rihanna.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Other Caribbean.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. And Kanye did one with him, which is actually very good. It's my favorite Kanye song.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Four or five seconds.

[Michael Knowles]

No, that one's not that good. What's the one?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Only one's a bop.

[Michael Knowles]

You are my only one. People slept on that. Click on guitar. It's nice. Okay, well, I just confused. Are they both Caribbean?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Rihanna and Nicki Minaj are.

[Michael Knowles]

They're both Caribbean.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah. And they both low key like Trump.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. All right. Rihanna too.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, yes.

[Michael Knowles]

Let's go. Let's go.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Well, until they started beefing because then Trump came after Rihanna, which you never come after a bad gal like riri.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah. Cause that's just gonna get ugly.

[Michael Knowles]

I would have advised him of. I would have said, don't ever, Mr. President, under any circumstances go after a bad guy like riri.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Right. You have to move safely these days. People are crazy. Like, Rihanna will pull up on you in a Sri Lanka child.

[Michael Knowles]

For sure, dude. I've said it for months. So. So sexy Redd is different. And I gotta figure out what you think about Sexyy Red.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And the question again, was Sexyy Red fans or Sexyy Red herself?

[Michael Knowles]

We draw the line at liking sexyy Red. So it is the fans. Specifically, we no Sexyy Red fans are allowed in the gop, though, presumably Sexyy Red. Well, I assume Sexyy Red likes herself so that she would be included. If she doesn't like herself, then she could be permitted in the Republican Party, I would say. You would say?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Hold on, I gotta vote still. I'm still thinking this out.

[Michael Knowles]

Everyone's allowed in except for Sexy Redfish fans. Hmm. Hmm. You would say. No, you're correct. Because you want. No matter what the deal is with Mademoiselle Red, you want as many people to come into the party as possible.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You are correct.

[Michael Knowles]

Who is Sexyy Red?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

So Sexyy Red, basically a stripper with a long red wig. And she's a hoochie mama. I think she prides herself in having hoochie. Coochie is one of her, you know, Gucci or hoochie? Hoochie coochie.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Hard.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

She prides herself in that. So she is a very ratchet female who makes songs like Get It Sexy. Get It Sexy. I don't know, you heard. Or Pound Town.

[Michael Knowles]

Oh, I listen to it all the time.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Have you ever heard of Pound Town?

[Michael Knowles]

That's my alarm clock, actually. I wake up every morning.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah. And it goes like, Pound Town just left Pound Town. Her, you know, coochie is pink and her booty hole is brown. You see the vision. Don't think about it too much.

[Michael Knowles]

I'd like to spoon my mind's eye out. Actually, after that vision. Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You might have to repent if you go watch anything that she does.

[Michael Knowles]

But that being said, I'm having this conversation right now. Yeah. Okay, hold on. So she's. Cause, do you remember there was a girl, like, five years ago called Cupcake? Do you remember her?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Cupcake? A freak. Marilyn Monho.

[Michael Knowles]

I remember someone said, they're like, michael, look at this person. Lizzo. And I was like, man, those videos are obscene and disgusting. And they're like, well, that's like Donna Reed compared to Cupcake. And I looked at a cupcake thing on YouTube. It was on YouTube, but it was like, just porn.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Like, really, really gross porn, objectively.

[Michael Knowles]

So you're saying Sexy Red is kind of like that.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

So Sexyy Red is like that. She's very vulgar. But the thing is, it's like, when it comes to the gop, we need every vote that we can get these days. It's like, I really don't care about how you live your life when it comes to elections now, when it comes to, like, the conservative movements, like, you know, there has to be a little bit of gatekeeping there.

[Michael Knowles]

Interesting.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

A little bit of gatekeeping.

[Michael Knowles]

So would you Say then for the voting you would say, hey, neo Nazis, Bolsheviks, I don't know any, like, disreputable people. Vote Republican. We want you to vote Republican. We just don't want you in the conservative movement.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

This is gonna sound insane, but I don't care if someone literally wants to enslave me personally.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, no, I don't care.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

When it comes to the election, I need you to vote the way that I need you to vote. Because at the end of the day, I want my taxes low and I want the government out of my business.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay, Now, Sexyy Red, she does love Trump. I actually just met her.

[Michael Knowles]

Really?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

We made amends because I've had a notorious beef with her and her friend Sukianna, also known as, I think it's Suki with the good coochie is her name.

[Michael Knowles]

That doesn't even rhyme.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It doesn't.

[Michael Knowles]

It would be one thing if her name was Suchi Tsuchi, but it's Suki.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's Sukiana the goat. And you probably know Sukianna. She was the one. What did she go viral for recently? Oh, it was because someone asked her during an interview. Something about being a musician. Mind you, she's a rapper and she's like, what does that mean? Make magic or something.

[Michael Knowles]

And she. Oh, that girl. She was great. She was great. I actually loved her content.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Really?

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. So I thought that whole bit, look, it was obviously scripted. It was hilarious. I think it was scripted. I'm convinced it was scripted. You can't convince me it wasn't.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Her intelligence is like 5. Like, her IQ was low key. 5.

[Michael Knowles]

Is it like the bell curve meme where it's like the person with the 0 IQ and the 200 IQ, they basically believe the same.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Basically. I would be shocked if she wore shoes that weren't Velcro. No shade.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And that is Sexyy Red's best friend, at least in the industry.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And Sexyy Red, I just met her recently and we made amends. And, you know, I said to her, I'm like, okay, you know what? You're gonna do your thing. You like Trump.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

That's all that matters. I'm like, just don't go. Just at least. At the very least, don't go and push all this woke stuff that I know you don't believe in. Sexy.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. And what did Sexy say?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

She said, you know what, I wanna go to the White House. But you can't tell nobody. But I'm telling you, you just told.

[Michael Knowles]

A bunch of people on the Internet.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

All Sexyy Red does is lie and scam black people.

[Michael Knowles]

Really? Okay.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yes.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yes. But, you know, she was a sweet lady. She also did say Free Diddy. That was crazy. That was a little crazy.

[Michael Knowles]

Pro ditty.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

She's very pro ditty. Yeah. Not me putting her business out there. I'm kinda shady for that, but I did what I had to do.

[Michael Knowles]

Wow. She's pro Diddy. Kanye's anti diddy.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Correct.

[Michael Knowles]

Kanye's anti Jewish.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Well, you should know. Kanye is pro diddy.

[Michael Knowles]

He's pro. I thought he called him a fed.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yes, but he's still pro Diddy.

[Michael Knowles]

Pro Diddy. But Kanye is also pro Trump. But Trump is pro Israel. Right, but Kanye's anti Israel. And Sexyy Red is friends with Kuchi Mama.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Right. The math is mathing.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Okay. All right. Wow. I'm dizzy. And I've only had, like, five sips of this martini. You're up.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Shout out to Sexy Red.

[Michael Knowles]

Mm. Hi, sexy. Is that funny? I'm saying hello.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Reparations would be worth the price if we never had to talk about race again. I don't think you believe that at all.

[Michael Knowles]

I don't. Why don't I believe it?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

For a number of reasons. Because first of all, we have to talk about race.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Because even if we pay reparations, which that's a hot mess within itself because how are you going to differentiate of who deserves what and, like, who's actually the sons of slaves? And it's just so unnecessary.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. You think about some, like, Mexican who's half Spanish and half Quechua or something. Well, what is he? Is he oppressed or oppressor? He's half and half. Does he cancel out and he doesn't get a penny? He's got to pay half. He's got to accept it. What does he get? Doesn't make any sense.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Right. It's like it just doesn't make any sense at all. But then the thing is, even if we pay the reparations, we're still going to have racial issues. If we're being honest, why we're still. Because so many demographics are out of control. I mean, let's be so honest. If we're talking about statistics speaking, it's like we have to talk about crime in the black community and we have to talk about why things like BLM should never come back again.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And yet it's like the mindset is not going to leave. Just because we're not talking about race doesn't mean that the mindset and the victim mentality and the poor, illiteracy rates, and all these different issues are ever gonna go away.

[Michael Knowles]

Right? Yeah. We talk about things as human beings. And the other. The other reason is race is good. Races are good. We have a. A diversity of life. This was given to us by God in Providence. And it's good. It's kind of interesting. I like the variety and the spice of it. I like to travel and see different peoples and have different customs. And actually, I'll go even further. There's nothing wrong with having a special affection for your own family, first of all, and your own community and even your own race. Joe DiMaggio, you know, the Italians. Joe DiMaggio hits a home run, it's fine for the Italian Americans to say, like, ah, atta boy, Joe.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

You don't want that to be taken to, you know, be cruel or to hate other races. You know, just like, you wouldn't want to take your special love of your family to mean that you hate other families or something like that.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Right.

[Michael Knowles]

But there's nothing wrong with having a kind of a special affection for people who are like you.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Exactly. And it's like, there's also just cultural things that are just difficult to express to other cultures because I can only argue so much with white people about why you're supposed to rinse off your chicken before you cook it.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Do you rinse your chicken? Yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

What is wrong with eating clean meat?

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Wow. But doesn't it. I don't know anything. I mean, I don't cook chicken, but Alisa cooks chicken, and I don't. And I know, actually one white person who will bleach her food before she a little bit.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

See, that's why I don't eat at everybody's house, because that's just insane. But the argument is, people are like. They say two things. They'll say that when you rinse the chicken, it spreads the salmonella.

[Michael Knowles]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I've heard that. Yeah.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's like. So you're telling me that you don't clean your sink after you're done cooking, is what I'm hearing.

[Michael Knowles]

Or you just eat the salmonella, but I guess you cook it.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Well, then that's. The other part is they say that you cook it and it kills the salmonella, but it's like, okay, but it doesn't kill the fact that this chicken was dropped on the floor, kicked around, thrown back on the conveyor belt. Sometimes you'll see a little hair, a little dirt, a little, you know. Well, not at the places I shop. I go to Erewhon. But if it looks like.

[Michael Knowles]

Hold on. Prager's paying too much these days if you're going to Erewhon. That is like the fancy. That's some nice. That's like Gavin Newsom grocery store.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Mr. Knowles, now you and I both know that is not the case. I make more outside of Prageru than at Prageru. Let's be so frill. Those nonprofit dollars don't go that far.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, you make a great point.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, you almost just got me a call from hr.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, no, you make a great point. No, but. Okay, so I agree. The different cultural practices are great.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Mm.

[Michael Knowles]

And like, there's no. I don't know, like this whole idea if you. If only we could not talk about race anymore. I think. Why do we not want to talk about race?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And you know what? It's important to talk about race, too, because we have to talk about history. And talking about race doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, I agree.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Talking about black history, there's such a stick. I hate that. What? I hate what? Black History Month has. Black History Month has become this, like, constant peddling of communist legacy, victim oppression. Yeah. Like all of that type of stuff. And it's like, until the day I die, the black American story is going to be what we did to overcome adversity and how far we have come as a society. Because you have over 2 million black millionaires in America today. You have so many self made black billionaires, you have all this black excellence that's worth talking about. When I teach my kids and grandkids one day about the black American story, I'm gonna say, this is how it started and this is how far we've come. That's a beautiful thing. So we should be able to talk about that for various demographics, especially when we're talking about American history. So, no, talking about race isn't always a bad thing.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, okay, that's great.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

But reparations is ghetto.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, it is. And it's completely unworkable. All right, I totally agree. Before we get to this very exciting segment, the best selling game, yes or no, is available now exclusively at the daily wire shop. Whether you're debating your friends or figuring out how insane your co workers are, this game will tell you exactly how well you really know the people around you. Order now and bring the chaos to your next game night. Go to dailywire.com shop today. You can find out if your friends and family are vile racists like me and Xavier. Okay, now this Is the rapid fire round.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay, now remind me. So I just, I just constantly go like, no time to think. Basically full send.

[Michael Knowles]

No time to think. I'm gonna go three right in a row and you go boom, boom two, boom, boom three, boom, boom. Maybe we'll drink a little bit along the way.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay.

[Michael Knowles]

Is it okay to racially profile while. Yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yes.

[Michael Knowles]

Is there at least some evidence that the earth might be flat? I should have guessed. Yes. Man, I was. Oh man. All right. Is Black history month worse than pride month? Ooh, no. Yeah, it's. No, man, I should have. As I'm pushing, I'm like, oh man, I blew it on the flat earth. Okay, what's the evidence?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay, I'm not saying that the earth is flat necessarily.

[Michael Knowles]

No, you're just saying there's some evidence.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

There's at least a little that it might not be fully round either. Okay, hear me out.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, okay.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I am not a flat earther.

[Michael Knowles]

Uh huh. That's like the preface that a flat earther makes. Oh God. I'm not. Oh no. This is what they do when the people who think vaccines like turn the frogs gay. They're like, now I'm not anti vaccine, I just think they're all bad for you and turn your frogs gay. Okay, so what's the. You're not a flat earther.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

But I think I'm at the point where I will entertain, at least entertain almost any conspiracy. And there was a colleague I had years ago that would spend hours a day because we were so bored of that job, hours a day telling me all the reasons why he thought that the earth was flat. And I think majority of it is idiotic, I really do. But I am just so jaded and black pilled about all the things that we've been lied about. It's like again, I don't necessarily know if the earth is flat, but at least it could possibly not be fully round.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, you're saying it could be ovular or conical.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Perhaps it could be. Cause you know what? In retrospect, because you know, I had to do the rapid fire, I probably should have said no because now hold.

[Michael Knowles]

On, do I get my point if he said no? Do I. He just said he might have said no.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I said might.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

But I don't know, it's just I don't trust anything anymore.

[Michael Knowles]

So I get, it's like, it's one of these things where I think like what's the most based thing to think? And then you start like on the flat earth thing in a Way you think, well, the flat Earth, that's the most bass trad classical. Actually, the flat earth really is an idea more from the Enlightenment and the Renaissance, or really post Renaissance enlightenment, that is mocking people in the supposed dark ages who supposedly thought the Earth was flat, even though we've known the Earth is spherical since antiquity. So you're like, okay, well, hold on. That's like a fake out. That's like a reverse uno trad idea because it's actually kind of modern. But you don't. And there are all these things that are kind of like that. But in any case, I'm just trying to cope because I lost the point. You're up clear the gluttonous. All right.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Because at this point, it's like, I don't even think moon landing happened.

[Michael Knowles]

You don't?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I think that's a lie.

[Michael Knowles]

That's a good question. Maybe that's a good question.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know what? Let me not do too much rapid fire. Will Republicans hold either the House or Senate in 2026?

[Michael Knowles]

Hold on. Either the House or Senate, either. So if they hold one, then the answer is yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Correct. Okay. Should Justin Bieber.

[Michael Knowles]

Well, hold on. You gotta. Did I get it right or wrong? Did he get it right or wrong? He got it right. Okay. I think maybe the Senate, at least one of them.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Should Justin Bieber be in a conservatorship?

[Michael Knowles]

Yes, he should.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You think so?

[Michael Knowles]

Get that point back, baby.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, wow.

[Michael Knowles]

Probably he should. Probably he should.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I kind of agree. Dude. I didn't think you would be for it.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, I think cut. Probably he should.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah. Is dyed blonde hair cultural appropriation?

[Michael Knowles]

Wow.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I don't think you think that.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes, it is.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

What?

[Michael Knowles]

It's appropriating the culture of the early 2000s. That's what it is.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know what the T on that is? Is because as a kid, I always wanted frosted tips.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You could not have convinced me I wasn't a pop star.

[Michael Knowles]

My mother, in about 2001 or something, I was like 11 years old, my mother said, michael, because all the kids, we're talking, like, in some cases manly kids, but they got. Not like that. You just kind of died the whole thing. I'm talking frosted tips. And she was like, do you want to get frosted tips this summer? I was like, no. Like, I don't. I've had the same haircut since I was six. I've had the exact same haircut since I was six.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Really? I believe that.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes. And before that, at age 5, it was just slightly more to the side. But it was almost the same haircut.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Wow.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes. So I could not. But I remember that period, those halcyon days of the early 2000s. And that's what you're appropriating.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Wow.

[Michael Knowles]

So who won? Oh, no. It's the final one, you know. What is? It's time for the final round.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, goodness. Remind me how this works.

[Michael Knowles]

I wish I could. I think I pull this up. I pull up a final question. We guess on our pin pads or we answer on our pin pads how we would answer that question for ourselves. And we guess with our drinks. And then we're gonna move the drink based on how we think the other person would answer. Final round. Should gay men be allowed to adopt children? How would you answer? Correct.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Correct.

[Michael Knowles]

Once each. Let's go, let's go. Okay. All right.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know, last one. It's just one of those things you just can't do. Yeah, you just can't do it.

[Michael Knowles]

Kids need their mom.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I am a little more classically liberal in the sense of, like when it.

[Michael Knowles]

Comes to saying Francisco Franco is more classically liberal than I am. But. Yes, you think you have these, you know, open, more open minded views.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Cause when it comes to marriage, I'm a little bit more classically liberal on that because I view that there's a difference between biblical marriage recognized by God and the American society, systemic institutional contract of a marriage. So I.

[Michael Knowles]

She no longer exists.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Basically. Basically. So it's like, okay, I can accept that. But when it comes to the adoption, there's just something so. Yeah, you know, let me not get kicked off YouTube about it.

[Michael Knowles]

But it's not right.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's not right.

[Michael Knowles]

Kids need their moms.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah, they need their moms.

[Michael Knowles]

That's it.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah. Or their dads.

[Michael Knowles]

Or their dads. Right. Yeah. I'm not saying lesbians can't do it either.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Yeah, I agree. Elon needs to be present.

[Michael Knowles]

You got it out. You got it out for you.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Let me stop.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, now we gotta clear your answer.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Okay, final question in 2025, between being Black, Christian, conservative, or a Zionist, likely Israel draws the most attacks online. H.

[Michael Knowles]

I think this could be the game. I think you would say yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I think you would say no.

[Michael Knowles]

I would say yes.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Damn it.

[Michael Knowles]

The Zionists would. Hold on. Did I get his right?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You did.

[Michael Knowles]

I did. Let's go. Yes, certainly. I don't know that that would have been the case three years ago, but now it is. Because the left has been anti Zionist for decades at this point. And certainly the popular left, if not the establishment left, now some of the establishment left is anti Zionist and parts of the right are anti Zionist. I mean, I guess in principle I'm not a Zionist in that I don't agree with the religious or historical claims of Zionism, but I'm broadly supportive of Israel, which is. So they would probably call me a Zionist even though I'm really not because I'm Catholic. But that's like the Z word. It's like you just call it anybody, oh, you're a Zion. It's like what neocon used to be. Both often referred to Jews, I'm noticing. But it's like you'd just be, you're a Zionist, you're a neo. The word almost doesn't seem to have a concrete meaning anymore, but I think today, much more so than if you say I'm Christian, I'm a white guy, I'm a black guy. I think so. Right.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I have to agree, you know, if it were a few years ago, I don't think that would have been the case. I think there was always would have been some sentiment of people being annoyed. But then, and low key still now. People didn't even know what Zionist meant back in the day. But now it's like I get grief.

[Michael Knowles]

For everything on the Internet. People don't know what it means now. I mean, when I say I'm not a Zionist, it's because I don't agree with the political ideology of Theodore Herzl. It's not that I don't have a kind of broad affection or support for the state of Israel or because I don't like Jews or something like that, which is, I think when people use that word now, they're basically saying like, yeah, just like Jewish or like you guy who doesn't hate Jews or whatever, you know, like that's not what the word means. But it's just come to take that on.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's one of those words that's just so overexposed. It's like people have no idea. But you know, I get flack just like you do for everything that I say online. Like I could say the sky is blue today and people are going to be mad at me, but the level, the intensity of the hatred that I get. But you would call yourself a Zionist. I am a Zionist, yeah. You know, and I don't necessarily agree with Herzl's ideology either. He was very, very progressive. But I do very much stand with, you know, the premise of why Israel is.

[Michael Knowles]

You would say the Jewish people as a people, as a Tribe have an eternal right to the Holy Land.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I do believe that. And the amount of hate that I get, the amount of death threats that I get, it's a different level of intensity.

[Michael Knowles]

When did you come to? Because I would say, you know, I have a kind of practical, prudential affection for the state of Israel, and I have a sort of personal affection for Jews because I grew up in New York and Los Angeles, and I like.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

A good bagel shout out to the Jews.

[Michael Knowles]

But I don't. You know, being a Catholic, I don't think there's some, like, special legal right that the Jewish people have as an entity to, you know, an eternal claim to this land. I think they fought a war, so that's one right to land. They had a UN Declaration. They had the Balfour Declaration. So it's like, I think there are all these kind of practical political rights, but I wouldn't, you know, ideologically, I don't really buy it. But were you always a Zionist?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know, I didn't really have too much of an opinion on what was going there before 2023. So how it really started was in June of 2023. I went just on vacation there. I just wanted to go see the Christian sites. I wanted to go see Tel Aviv, go see Jerusalem, go do it all. And I got so much hate just for being there. And then I didn't know that anti Semitism was still a thing. Like, I didn't grow up around a lot of Jews. I grew up in central Illinois, so it was like the two kids in my school were Jewish. One I didn't even know was Jewish until he reached out to me, thanking me for what I say now. Like, you're Jewish.

[Michael Knowles]

Wait, hold on. Shlomo Shmulisttein, you're Jewish? I had no idea.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I didn't see the Stein there. Like, I had no idea. So I got all this hate just for being there. When I said that I was there on Twitter, and when I asked my Jewish friends, I'm like, this is still happening. And they're like, oh, yes. I'm like, oh. So then I looked deeper into it. I'm like, a lot of the people who hate Jews, like, really, it has nothing to do with Israel. It's just they're broke, bitter, and ghetto and jealous, and they're like, oh, well, Jews are so successful. It's like, okay, well, go get a job. Okay? It's like, why are so many Jewish people successful choices? Why are so many black people criminals choices? Like, just being objective about it. You Made the choice. Pick a struggle. So one of my first. Walk with me. Cause I do this series with my Air1 smoothies and everything. One of my first ones was about how antisemitism is ghetto. And when October 7th happened, I was baffled by how quickly the narrative switched online. Like, before the day it even ended, people were denying that October 7 happened, saying that Israel deserved it, all this stuff. So then at that point, I'm like, well, you know what? I'm just really going to start airing my piece about how I feel about this conflict. So I really accidentally, like, very organically, I guess, is a better word would say that I just ended up adopting this massive Jewish following and becoming really well known in Israel. I didn't expect that to happen. I just thought that people were being ghetto online. And I called it out like I do everything else.

[Michael Knowles]

Yes, that happens. Sometimes you get exposed to something. You say, like, well, whatever. I'm not that. Whatever the opposite of, like, that thing that I find ugly is. I totally agree. I have the least popular opinion, which is that I'm broadly supportive of the Israel and I like the Jews, but I also don't, like, agree with the premises of Zionism. So everyone has a reason to attack me.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's like, oh, are you allowed to say that?

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, I know you're certainly not, but okay, before I let you go, the moon landing, you said you brought it up, and I didn't know if it was gonna be in the final round.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

But a lie from the pit of hell? There is no way.

[Michael Knowles]

What?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Please, Please. Cause why can't we go back? We didn't even have cell phones back then. That was the mid-1900s. And you're telling me that they made it all the way to the moon? Gayle King can barely get to space and come back, and you're telling me that we went to the moon? I just don't believe it.

[Michael Knowles]

Is it possible, though? Because you're saying basically now we can't do a thing, and we used to be able to do a thing, so that's implausible, but I think that's true about a lot of things. Like, we used to be able to do philosophy really well in, like, the Middle Ages, and now we're philosophically idiots. So is it, you know, we used to be able to have true religion and worship, and now we're like, God is a spaghetti monster, whatever nonsense they say on Reddit. So it's like, is it possible that we just got worse at something?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know, there is an element of truth to that. But the reason that I feel like people, there's a few reasons why people are getting dumber. It's social media, it's artificial sugars and pornography are frying people's brains. So that's why we have fewer intelligent people that are in the world. But we still have brilliant minds out there. And, you know, it's like, have any other nations been to the moon yet? You're telling me that China and Russia don't want to go to the moon?

[Michael Knowles]

Why wouldn't they have said it was a hoax? Why wouldn't the Soviet Union have said it's a hoax?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

The world is being just ruled by satanic globalists who want us all to be dirt poor and eat bugs. So when it's all said and done, it's like there is probably some type of handshake of like, you don't put my business out there, and I'm not gonna put your business out there. Cause there's a lot of things that I'm sure that America knows about these other nations that they haven't put out there.

[Michael Knowles]

Be so smart. Well, it's blackmail. All the way down.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's blackmail. It's diddynomics. It's diddy on a global level.

[Michael Knowles]

So hold on. Did I win?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I have to dye my hair with an mk.

[Michael Knowles]

Yo, let's go. Oh, what? Final score. Eight to two.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

What?

[Michael Knowles]

No.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

A lie. So I'm doing the math.

[Michael Knowles]

I'm getting. That is some Common Core math is what that is. I'm getting. So I'm getting the MK logo in your hair.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

First of all, Nicki Minaj. Sweetie, I am so sorry that I let you down. I'm sorry, Barbs. Shout out to the bars.

[Michael Knowles]

Well, hey, everybody, the least I can do is point out that you should go check out more of Xavier's content. Like this.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Why can't we let everyone in? Our border is not your mother. Mass deportations separate families. Well, so does baby mama culture. Mind you, y' all can leave together. Who's going to clean Trump's toilets? People with birth certificates? What did I see at the border? 50 shades of brown and a Diddy casting call. Refugees are fleeing communism. Actually, they're just bringing communism here. The process takes too long. Well, then tell people to stop swimming here and the process would be smoother. A wall isn't going to stop anything. Boundaries always help. Try it with your ex. No one is illegal on stolen land. Okay, little Miss Swiper. No swiping.

[Michael Knowles]

I really.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

I really like.

[Michael Knowles]

Anytime I say anything, I Just wanted.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

To say, you sure?

[Michael Knowles]

Like, I think I'd have the branzino, you know, like. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Right now go check out that content on YouTube, Instagram and TikTok. Xavier, how do you spell the handle for the people out there?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

You know, it's an error on my birth certificate, but my mom liked it, so she kept it. Yes, it is X, A, V, I.

[Michael Knowles]

A, A, E, R. So put the A in there. It's like when I go to Starbucks, I am in every walk of my life. I'm Michael M I, C, H, A, E, L. But when I'm in Starbucks, I am almost always M I, C H, E, A L. That is the Starbucks spelling.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

It's those damn gender neutral gender study. Master's degree in gender studies Maurice does. Let's get you.

[Michael Knowles]

But I love. But I'll tell you what. I love them. I love them. Starbucks is one of the greatest corporations. And I don't care if they want to hate. If they hate me, it's one of the greatest corporations.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

All that sugar.

[Michael Knowles]

I don't. Whatever. I get black coffee. I get black coffee.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Oh, okay.

[Michael Knowles]

I got black. I go. But I just love it. I don't care if they. If even if they hate me when I walk in. It's fine. I have a buddy too. Daniel is one of his names. And on the birth certificate it was spelled. It was an error. It was A, A, E, L. Daniel er, A, L. I guess he kept it. He just kept it.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Wow.

[Michael Knowles]

Like you, Xavier. There you go. So anyway, go there on all the social media platforms. Was it MySpace, Zanga, LiveJournal, Usenet?

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Bebo.

[Michael Knowles]

Bebo.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

If you know, you know.

[Michael Knowles]

Bebo.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

And be careful with that Starbucks. Your back is going to end up as wide as a house.

[Michael Knowles]

Be careful. I hope. Better not. I hope not. I got to be a skinny boy. Good to see you.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Great to see you.

[Michael Knowles]

See you next time.

[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

Michael Knowles, founder of Mayflower Cigars. As miserable and embarrassing as this is, a deal is a deal.

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[Xavier de Rousseau Mongrand Amie]

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