
Are you doing personal development all wrong? I’ll show you how real transformation happens in everyday life — and how that’s your chance to evolve into your highest self.
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Welcome to today's episode of the Mindset Mentor Podcast. I am your host, Rob Dial. If you haven't done so, hit that subscribe button so you never miss another podcast episode. I put out episodes four times a week for almost 10 years now. If you want to improve yourself, improve your life, hit that subscribe button so that you never, ever, ever miss another episode. Today we're going to be talking about how you might be doing personal growth, personal development. All wrong and that self help books and conferences and journaling and meditating might.
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Not be what you need.
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And what I'm going to teach you today is a strategy that I think is going to help you improve your life quickly. It's a perspective of a way that you should look at the world to grow as fast as you possibly can.
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I believe that every single thing that.
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Happens to you and happens to me in our lives, every single moment of our life, good, bad, neutral, whatever label we want to put on it, I believe that it is brought to us.
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As an opportunity for us to learn.
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I believe that our life is a classroom and, and that our soul is here to learn. And that your life is the perfectly crafted curriculum for you to learn what you need to learn while you're here.
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Why?
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I don't know. I don't know. Why? I don't know what happens after this. I don't know what happens before this. I'll give you a couple just random, fun things to think about. But the problem is that most people.
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Don'T see life that way.
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They don't see life as a classroom.
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The biggest misconceptions that I have found.
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About personal development and where I really screwed up my personal development was I thought personal development was sitting down to read a book. And So I have 400 personal development books and mindset and business and leadership books that I've read over my lifetime. I thought that it was sitting down.
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To meditate and getting myself to learn to be quiet.
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I thought that it was going to.
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A conference and jumping around like an idiot for a few hours every single day.
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I thought that it was journaling, I thought that it was listening to a podcast.
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And all of those things are great.
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They are an aspect of personal development. And I do think that they're needed. I think all of them are amazing, but they're not the main thing. They're not the only thing. People think like, oh, I've got to wake up and I've got to have.
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My morning routine and I got to get my 30 minutes of PD in.
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You know, PD personal development. I got to get my 30 minutes of personal development. I got to read or I got.
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To meditate or I got to journal.
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Or I got to listen to a podcast and, you know, I gotta get my personal development in.
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Those are fine.
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But the real place where personal development happens and where you learn the most.
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If you have a keen sense of.
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Paying attention to what's happening in your life, is your life itself is where your personal development is. That's where your lessons come from, that's where the work has to be put in. You know, some people will sit down and they'll read a book and they'll be like, ah, I just read a.
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Book on meditation and being more Zen and I feel great.
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I got my personal development in. And then 20 minutes later they go and they get into a massive argument with their spouse. And they don't realize that the book was not their personal development for the day. The argument with their spouse was their greatest opportunity for personal development that day. Why was there an argument?
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Why was I triggered in that moment? What was it about that moment that triggered me?
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What triggered her?
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Why were we triggered in that moment? And to sit back and go, that's really interesting. What can I do to learn and get better?
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Because the book is great. Yeah, I love reading.
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I think reading is great.
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I think it's definitely something we should all do. But the argument with the spouse is.
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The universe going, hey, you need to.
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Work on this thing. And I'm going to bring you this lesson over and over and over again. So you got triggered, you were in an argument. Why was there a trigger for you? That trigger, that moment of being triggered is one of the biggest opportunities in your life to learn a trigger. And if you've been listening to podcasts for a long time, you know this. When you're triggered, it is a place where you are not free. You are hung up somewhere in. Being triggered by somebody else is not somebody else's fault. It's not like, oh, they triggered me, it's their fault.
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Boo hoo, I'm a victim.
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No, being triggered is our fault. If I'm triggered, it's not somebody else's fault because I was the one that was triggered. We were triggered. And I want this to really hit home.
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A trigger is not your enemy. It's not something that you're trying to avoid. It's an invitation for you to go deeper within yourself.
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It's a spotlight showing you a wound that hasn't healed yet and might need.
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Some more work and some more care. And if someone else doesn't get triggered.
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By the exact same thing, then it's proof that the, the, the issue isn't out there.
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It's inside of me.
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It's inside of you. It's inside of us. It's not a flaw, it's a flashlight.
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It's shining, it's light on what you need to work on next. And so that's the biggest thing.
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Oh, were you cut off on the drive to work after you got done with your 20 minutes of meditation and you got pissed. And now the next 15 minutes on the way to work, you're cussing at this person who's in front of you.
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Ah, no, it's not the meditation. That's the self development. It's that triggering right there. That's the self development.
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And you have to understand it's very important. This is the way I always put myself into perspective. I'm one of those people who just really likes to play devil's advocate for myself. Like, I look at one side, I'm.
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Like, yeah, but if that's what you think, what else is a possibility?
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So I think to myself, okay, I.
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Was triggered by xyz. If I were to take somebody else, is it there a chance that somebody.
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Else in the world would not be triggered by xyz? Yeah.
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Okay, well, then that's the case. It shows me that it's not outside of me. It shows me that it's inside of.
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Me, the thing that I need to work on. So it's not the trigger. It's not the other person. It's not getting cut off. It's not my spouse.
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It's me.
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So you just got to think of that for a second. So how can we work through it? Did your spouse get triggered?
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Why? Where did that come from for them? Can we also help them go through it? You can listen to this podcast, and.
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I love that you listen to this podcast, but it's nothing compared to your real life.
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You can be all excited.
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You know, maybe you're listening to this podcast and you're on your way to Target with your child. You're listening to this podcast, you're on the way to target, and 30 minutes after this podcast gets done, your child has a temper tantrum in Target on aisle seven. And it just pisses you off, right? You're like, oh, my God, they always do this. Or maybe you're just, like, freaking out.
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What is this person? You know, that person that's over there?
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Is she judging me? That moment, that moment's your dojo. That moment is your classroom target with your kids screaming, that old woman that's.
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Judging you at the end of the.
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Aisle and you're starting to freak out, oh, my gosh, is she judging me? What does she think of me? Does she think I'm a terrible parent? My child's driving me crazy.
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That's the moment where you learn peace. Not by listening to my podcast about.
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Peace or how to meditate.
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You learn peace in the moment where shit's hitting the fan and it's all over the walls. Not when you're in the Himalayan mountains.
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No, no, no.
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Here and now.
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That's where you learn it.
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You have to believe me that that.
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Moment is a much better place to learn and grow and to have your own personal development than anything else. Can you learn to keep calm in the middle of any storm, whatever that storm might look like? That child having a temper tantrum. Is the universe coming to you through your child saying, hey, here's what you need to work on right now? Do you think about that for a second? Like, how interesting is that?
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Maybe, yeah, it is my child that's.
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Throwing the temper tantrum, but maybe I have too much of a short temper and the universe is going, hey, you.
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Know what you need to work on today?
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You know what's really holding you back? Yeah. Your short fuse. So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to have your child have a temper tantrum on aisle seven, and I'm going to have the lady at.
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The end of the aisle judge you.
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So that you can work on your inner peace. Did you take the universe up on the opportunity? You know, if your boyfriend or girlfriend forgets to call you, they were supposed to call you two hours ago. Maybe they're just out having fun with their friends. Maybe they're mountain biking and they don't.
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Have their phone on.
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They don't have service.
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And it triggers you and it triggers.
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Your fear of abandonment because of some issue that's unhealed from your childhood. And you get mad at them and.
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You'Re like, it's your fault you didn't call me.
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It's your fault.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's your trigger. Sure, you can blame it on them, but you were the one that was triggered. And so you got to ask yourself, like, what's this feeling reminding me of? Okay, I'm really triggered that my boyfriend hasn't called me in a while. He went mountain biking. Is he okay?
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Did he get injured?
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Is he with some other girl right now? Whatever it might be, right? And you ask yourself, like, what's this? What's this feeling reminding me of? Like, who's the real person that I'm upset with? Is it my partner or is it my parent from 30 years ago?
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And you start realizing that it's the universe once again coming to you through your partner to show you where you still have things that you need to work on. Unhealed trauma. And when you start to really see this, and I like really, I mean like really, really see this, you go, oh my God.
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Almost every single moment of my life is a lesson. Your life is the perfectly crafted curriculum.
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For you to evolve into the highest version of yourself. And guess what? The universe is just going to keep giving you the same lesson over and.
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Over and over again until you pass.
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It that's why you keep dating the same person or acting the same way.
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Or being triggered by the exact same.
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People, or you keep self sabotaging in some sort of way. And so you've got to learn the lesson or else the lesson, the opportunity to get the lesson is going to keep on coming up until you work through it. You know, I believe, and this is my belief, you don't have to take this on. I'm completely fine. But I'll just tell you my explanation, right? I believe that our souls, this thing that's inhabiting this body of mine, took this body in this exact life to.
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Learn and go through whatever it needs.
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To go through to get onto the next level or the next plane or.
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Whatever might happen after this thing.
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So everything that happens to me because.
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My soul chose it.
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So everything that happens to me was chosen by me, not me, Rob, but my soul. Because Rob was just a name that was given to me when I was born. You know, I was named after my dad. The way I like to see it and I imagine is like your soul sitting down and it's writing down and drafting a college syllabus basically before you were born. And you know, I'll say, we'll take my soul, right? He's like, oh, sitting there and you know, in this life, I want to learn, I want to learn compassion, I want to learn forgiveness, I want to learn some courage that's in there. So, okay, if I want to learn.
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Compassion, if I want to learn some forgiveness, if I want to learn courage.
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If I want to learn all that.
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Okay, give me some, maybe give me some childhood abandonment issues.
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Maybe being really hard on myself. Give me some money struggles. Money struggles.
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Be good.
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Maybe a toxic relationship or two, maybe, maybe a couple loved ones dying. And my soul goes, yep, that one looks good. Okay, I'll take that body. And I know it sounds crazy, but. But what if it was true? What if every challenge is a custom.
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Designed lesson for your expansion?
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Wouldn't that be interesting? Love, loss, sadness, happiness, anger, frustration, joy.
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Every single one of those feelings that comes up inside of us is some sort of opportunity for me to learn.
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And for me to grow. And anytime that we're just so caught.
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Up in the moment, we don't take ourself out of the moment, we can.
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Miss those lessons, we can miss our opportunities to grow. And I understand you're not going to be perfect in everything that you do. You're going to lose yourself to being triggered at some point in time. I get that. And then maybe later on down the road you're going to go, oh, man, like, I really lost myself.
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I shouldn't have said that to her.
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I shouldn't have done that thing. Well, what can I learn from that? And I want you just to realize that the whole point of what I'm.
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Trying to say here, and I really.
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Want to get across, is that the highest version of you, the best version of you, I'm sorry, but it's not found in a book. It's on the other side of a breakdown. The highest version of you is not found in a morning meditation. It's in getting cut off on the road, on the way to work. The highest version of you is not going to a conference.
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All of these things are important.
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They're all very important. It's where you learn more. But really, where all these things come into practice, you really start to work through and understand about yourself is in these moments where you're triggered, where things happen to you and where you lose yourself so that you can find yourself. And so what you want to do.
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Is notice when you get caught up.
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In something, notice the feeling.
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Breathe that feeling in. Don't resist it.
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Oh, my gosh, I'm feeling really, really angry right now.
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Don't resist it completely.
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Fine. What am I feeling right now? I'm feeling extremely angry. Okay, why am I feeling this way? This is where you really start to figure out about yourself. This is like the emotional alchemy is what it is, where you turn your pain into wisdom. Wouldn't that be nice? Like, that's really the point of pain, is to give us more wisdom. And so when you feel that sadness, when you feel that anger, when you feel yourself being, you know, absolutely frustrated about everything that's going on, you breathe it in.
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You don't resist it.
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You feel it, and you say, what am I feeling? What am I feeling right now? Why am I feeling this way?
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And that's where you can turn your pain into wisdom.
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The wisest people in the world are not the ones who have read the most books. They're the ones who have learned the most from life. They're usually the ones who have been.
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Through the most pain and turned it into wisdom.
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They're not just, like, feeling the feelings.
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Oh, just sit in a corner and just close your eyes and feel your feelings.
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No, you're actually learning to decode your own life. This is where the real transformation actually happens. And so when you look at it, being triggered is a gift. Being mad is a gift. Feeling absolute joy is a gift.
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Feel all of them, don't resist them. Your resistance doesn't help you.
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Your resistance to those dark feelings or those hard feelings, it doesn't help you.
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It doesn't help your loved ones. It doesn't help your children. It doesn't help the world. It's showing you where you're not free. And this is a moment where you can really take a step back and.
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You can learn from it. Because personal development is not something that you schedule. It's something that you live.
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The argument is the lesson. The trigger is what teaches you.
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Your life is the curriculum. So stop treating personal growth like it's just a hobby. Every moment of your life is personal development. You can't escape the classroom, so you might as well start learning the true lessons while you're here. So that's what I got for you for today's episode. If you love this episode, please do me a favor, share it on your Instagram stories.
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The Mindset Mentor Podcast: "You're Doing Personal Growth All Wrong"
Host: Rob Dial
Episode Release Date: April 17, 2025
In the episode titled "You're Doing Personal Growth All Wrong," Rob Dial challenges conventional approaches to personal development, urging listeners to shift from passive self-improvement activities to actively engaging with life's real-world challenges. Throughout the episode, Rob emphasizes that true growth stems from everyday experiences and the way individuals respond to them, rather than solely relying on traditional self-help methods like reading, journaling, or attending seminars.
Rob opens the discussion by highlighting a common misconception about personal growth. Many individuals believe that personal development is confined to structured activities such as reading books, meditating, or attending conferences. Rob admits his own initial misunderstanding:
Rob Dial [03:38]: "Where I really screwed up my personal development was I thought personal development was sitting down to read a book."
He acknowledges the value of these activities but insists they represent only a fraction of the personal growth journey. Instead, Rob proposes a more dynamic and interactive approach.
Central to Rob's philosophy is the idea that life itself is a classroom, and every experience serves as a lesson designed to foster personal growth. He articulates this vision with conviction:
Rob Dial [03:08]: "I believe that our life is a classroom and that our soul is here to learn. And that your life is the perfectly crafted curriculum for you to learn what you need to learn while you're here."
This perspective shifts the locus of personal development from passive consumption to active participation, where individuals recognize and seize learning opportunities embedded in their daily lives.
A significant portion of the episode delves into the concept of triggers—those moments that evoke strong emotional responses. Rob asserts that these triggers are not mere obstacles but invaluable opportunities for self-discovery and improvement:
Rob Dial [05:09]: "The argument with their spouse was their greatest opportunity for personal development that day."
He explains that when individuals encounter triggers, such as conflicts or stressful situations, they have the chance to introspect and understand the underlying causes of their reactions. This process, he argues, leads to profound personal insights and growth.
Rob emphasizes the importance of personal accountability in the face of triggers. Instead of attributing emotional responses solely to external factors or other people, he encourages listeners to look within themselves:
Rob Dial [06:27]: "Being triggered is our fault. If I'm triggered, it's not somebody else's fault because I was the one that was triggered."
By internalizing responsibility, individuals can better navigate their emotions and address unhealed wounds or unresolved issues that surface during triggering moments.
To translate this philosophy into actionable steps, Rob outlines a practical approach to handling triggers:
Notice the Feeling: Pay attention to the emotional response without judgment.
Rob Dial [17:44]: "Notice the feeling. Breathe that feeling in. Don't resist it."
Understand the Origin: Question the root cause of the emotion. Is it connected to past experiences or unhealed trauma?
Rob Dial [18:37]: "What's this feeling reminding me of?"
Transform Pain into Wisdom: Use the emotional insight gained to foster personal growth.
Rob Dial [18:48]: "Being triggered is a gift. Being mad is a gift."
Rob likens this process to "emotional alchemy," where pain is transformed into wisdom, leading to deeper self-awareness and resilience.
Rob culminates the episode by reiterating that the pinnacle of personal development lies in how individuals engage with and learn from their experiences:
Rob Dial [19:43]: "Your life is the curriculum. So stop treating personal growth like it's just a hobby. Every moment of your life is personal development."
He underscores that personal growth is not a separate activity but an integral part of daily living. By embracing this mindset, individuals can achieve a higher version of themselves, not through isolated self-improvement tasks but through continuous learning and adaptation in real-time.
"You're Doing Personal Growth All Wrong" serves as a compelling reminder that true personal development transcends traditional self-help practices. Rob Dial advocates for a proactive and introspective approach, where life's challenges are seen as tailored lessons for growth. By adopting this perspective, listeners are empowered to harness every moment as an opportunity to evolve, ultimately mastering their mindset and, by extension, their lives.
Notable Quotes:
Rob Dial [03:08]: "I believe that our life is a classroom and that our soul is here to learn."
Rob Dial [05:09]: "The argument with their spouse was their greatest opportunity for personal development that day."
Rob Dial [06:27]: "Being triggered is our fault. If I'm triggered, it's not somebody else's fault because I was the one that was triggered."
Co-host [07:14]: "It's shining, it's light on what you need to work on next."
Rob Dial [17:44]: "Notice the feeling. Breathe that feeling in. Don't resist it."
Rob Dial [18:48]: "Being triggered is a gift. Being mad is a gift."
Rob Dial [19:43]: "Your life is the curriculum. So stop treating personal growth like it's just a hobby."
This episode is a profound exploration of redefining personal growth, encouraging listeners to engage deeply with their everyday experiences to achieve lasting transformation.