Garrett White: The Truth About Wealth, Identity, and Relationships 📜 E164

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: The Money Mondays
Host: Dan Fleyshman
Guest: Garrett J. White (Founder, Wake Up Warrior)
Episode: 164 – “The Truth About Wealth, Identity, and Relationships”
Date: March 16, 2026

In this value-packed episode, Dan Fleyshman welcomes back recurring guest Garrett J. White for a deep dive into the complex intersections of wealth, identity, relationships, and charity. Garrett draws on his life experience as a husband, father, entrepreneur, and mentor to distill hard truths and actionable insights for anyone seeking high performance in money, marriage, and meaning.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Garrett’s Backstory & Mission (01:14)

• Garrett shares his journey from successful entrepreneur to rock bottom (affair, addiction, personal chaos), and how that inspired creating Wake Up Warrior.
• Quote:
  “I didn’t have a map. I didn’t know how to rebuild my life. So I created a game. I created a system called the Warriors Way.” (Garrett, 01:28)
• Wake Up Warrior has impacted 90,000 men, helping them achieve holistic success: business, fitness, faith, and family.

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2. Why Money Conversations Are Hard for Men (02:22)

• Three stages of difficulty:
  1. Scarcity: When men lack money, insecurity and instability dominate, impacting intimacy and communication at home.
  2. Obsession: When business becomes the “mistress” and all money is reinvested, leading to chaos and neglect at home.
  3. Affluence: With wealth comes doubt—does your partner love you or your status/wealth?
• Quote:
  “If I went back to zero, would she stay?” (Garrett, 03:20)
• Personal reflection on his marriage—commitment and uncertainty even after decades together.

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3. The Identity Trap and Complacency (04:45)

• As men make more money, their identity locks in at that new level. Growth requires “breaking” one identity for a higher one—a painful process.
• Applies at all income tiers (from $80K to $10M+).
• Quote:
  “You have to break who you are to go to that next place…Your nervous system freaks the fuck out and thinks, ‘What am I doing?’” (Garrett, 05:00)

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4. Money’s Impact on Relationships & Lifestyle (06:49)

• Increased wealth leads to decreased tolerance for things previously accepted, including in marriage.

• Common pitfall: Men who “level up” forget the partner who supported their journey.

• Garrett shares powerful anecdotes of divorce and relationship breakdown as financial/fitness success arrives.

  • Quote:
    “She said, ‘I built you…within twelve months…he made $400,000 as a doctor and started fucking one of the nurses and then told me, ‘I want a divorce.’” (Garrett, 08:26)

• If couples don’t grow together, they grow apart.

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5. Scaling a Service-Based Business (Personal Trainers Example) (11:13)

• Results and referrals trump social media for personal trainers.
• Case studies > testimonials; ask for referrals, but don’t pay for them (it kills intrinsic motivation).
• Leverage networks and tangible transformations for growth.
• Quote:
  “The referral game and actually getting results, like case studies—not testimonies. ‘You’re awesome, trainer. I love you.’ No. Your dude was here, now look at him.” (Garrett, 12:24)

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6. Managing Relationship Dynamics While Leveling Up (13:55)

• Business and relationship success require similar discipline and planning.
• Deliberate focus on your partner is essential (“have a plan for your relationship, just like your business”).
• Quote:
  “If you executed the macro plan for your client the same way you executed the date night plan with your girl, you’d be amazed at what happens.” (Garrett, 15:01)

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7. Investing: Where Should Success-Driven Men Focus? (15:38)

• Rule of thumb: First invest in yourself, then your business, then create a cash reserve. Only then look outward (stocks, real estate, startups, etc.).
• Don’t chase the “investor” label for its own sake.
• Only invest in things where you can contribute “human life value”—if you can’t influence the investment, skip it.
• Quote:
  “Highest rate of return is you and your own company…my human life value can impact the marketing, affect the sales, affect the park, affect the game…If I can’t be involved, I’m not.” (Garrett, 16:23)

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8. Levels of Investing in Self: Events, Masterminds, Coaching (17:59)

• Three Tiers:

  • Large Events (accessible, wide exposure)
  • Masterminds (deeper interaction, community)
  • One-on-One Coaching (high cost, faster results, direct breakthroughs)

• Each has a place; progression through tiers depends on speed and personalization desired.

• Personal stories about seeking the top, direct mentorship for significant, rapid breakthroughs.

  • Quote:
    “The counsel you can give me in a 30-minute conversation, I might not be able to gleam in two or three masterminds…They just shatter my frames in like 20 minutes and they’re like, ‘Okay, are we done?’” (Garrett, 20:47)

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9. Pitfalls at Each Level of Self-Investment (21:13)

• Large Events: Don’t be distracted by your phone; focus and network during breaks.
• Masterminds: Network with everyone; look past titles to the broader ecosystems people bring.
• Coaching: Come prepared with targeted questions.
  • Quote:
    “A closed mouth doesn’t get fed…Come there with five or ten questions…preferably have your questions done in advance.” (Dan, 21:45)
• Garrett shares cautionary tales about clients hiding and failing to reach out when times get tough, wasting their investment.

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10. The Multiplier Effect of Networks (24:23)

• The greatest value in masterminds and communities comes from connections and the ripple effect across networks.
• Quote:
  “There’s not a problem you cannot solve in the ripple. Somebody has a connection to someone that you don’t know about with a strategy you can’t consider, with a possibility you’ve never conceived. But you’re over here hiding.” (Garrett, 25:10)

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11. Charity and Modeling Giving for Family (26:39)

• Involving children and spouses in charity builds empathy and responsibility.

• Modeling patterns: kids observe not only routines but financial behaviors and generosity.

• Garrett shares how his kids witness his acts of giving—both planned and spontaneous—to teach real-world compassion.

• Practical lessons involve kids in tipping, discussing service workers’ realities, and understanding abundance.

• Quote:
  “I want them in the conversation…They got to watch this grown man break down in tears. They got to see the process and experience of it.” (Garrett, 27:01)

• Both Dan and Garrett recount impactful stories of helping families in need—underscoring that charity is as much about shaping character as it is about giving material support.

  • Quote (Dan):
    “I still remember the one toy that I got…if I had that emotion…what would happen if I gave kids five toys each?” (30:06)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Identity and Growth:
  “You have to break who you are to go to that next place…It’s painful.” (Garrett, 05:00)
• On Outgrowing Relationships:
  “If she doesn’t rise with you, you’re going to be done.” (Garrett, 09:26)
• On Coaching and Vulnerability:
  “Guys will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars for help, when and if things start getting shaky, then they get shaky and dudes retreat... I was your fire insurance. The house is burned down.” (Garrett, 22:49)
• On Charitable Parenting:
  “Your children are watching always. They watch your habits, they watch your patterns... But what most guys don’t realize is your kids are watching your patterns with money.” (Garrett, 26:56)
• On Giving and Abundance:
  “Abundance can be a curse if there’s attachment to the giving.” (Garrett, 28:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Garrett’s Bio & Mission – 01:14
• Why Men Struggle to Talk About Money – 02:22
• Identity and Income Stagnation – 04:45
• Money’s Impact on Relationships – 06:49
• Scaling Personal Training Business (Referrals, Results) – 11:13
• Balancing Business Growth & Relationships – 13:55
• Investment Strategy: Where to Start? – 15:38
• Levels of Self-Investment (Events, Masterminds, Coaching) – 17:59
• Mistakes at Each Level & Networking – 21:13, 24:23
• Charity & Involving the Family – 26:39

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Where to Find Garrett & Resources

• wakeupwarrior.com — Events, programs, and resources.
• Social: @GarrettJWhite (Instagram and all platforms)
• Warrior Book: worrybook.com
• Danielle White: Natural Beaded Rows, Isla Hair, NBR Hair Extensions—top hair extension and hair product lines.

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Closing Note

This episode masterfully unpacks the psychological and practical realities behind achieving—and keeping—wealth, developing identity, sustaining relationships, and practicing purposeful giving. If you’re seeking real talk about money, masculinity, and meaning, this is a must-listen.

Call to Action:
Share this episode with anyone navigating growth in business or personal life—“This might trigger something in your mind six months from now, a year from now, for a friend, family, or follower.” (Dan, 35:35)

Transcript

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a special edition of the Money Mondays podcast where we cover three core topics. How to make money and invest money. How to give away to charity. We rarely ever bring a guest back, but you're going to see this guest multiple times throughout the year. If I have to travel to him, fly to him, drive to him, walk to him, send him a carrier pigeon, I'm going to get this guy on the episode because he, he covers all three core topics so well. He's lived a lot of lives. He's trained over 14,000 men, 70,000 coming through the program in total. The numbers are mind blowing of what he's done to help change lives for marriages, households, communities and offices. By helping those men. What happens is the butterfly effect. We're going to dive right into that. As you guys know, there's no advertisements here. I do work with High Level because I actually use them. I do work with fan bases because I actually use them. But there's no like fancy affiliate codes. I just love fan bases and High Level because I actually use them. As you guys know. Also, this podcast is ranked really, really high because of you. We have a 93% listen through rate because this episode will be less than 40 minutes. Since the average workout is 45 minutes, the average commute to work is 45 minutes. This episode will be under 40 minutes for your listening pleasure. So without further ado, Mr. Garrett J. White giving the quick 2 minute bio. So we get straight to the money.

[A]

Beautiful. So I'm the founder of Wake up warrior. And 15 years ago I started down a path to guide men to find predictable power. I was an entrepreneur before that 25 years and had fallen apart. Built my empire, lost my empire, found myself in an affair. Drugs, addiction, sedation and chaos. And I didn't have a map. I didn't know how to rebuild my life. So I created a game. I created a system called the Warriors Way. And for the past 15 years we've actually crossed now 90,000 clients in Wake Up Warrior. Not in active programs, but guys in app subscriptions, guys using our content, et cetera. But that became the birthing place of a system. And that system has worked. It started trying to help me. How do I be a great husband, a great father, connected to God, physically fit, and be rich at the same time? That seemed impossible and we've proven that it is possible. So we're sitting here too. Man arena tour. All this was like part of what we put together, you and I, to help more men come to understand this possibility.

[B]

Okay. There's a lot to unpack there. But one of the first questions I actually have for you is, why do you think it's hard for men to talk about money in their households?

[A]

Wow. So you're going to have two different levels of hard. Right. So you've got hard when you don't have any.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And then you've got hard, I should say three. You have. When you don't have any, it's hard because scarcity is like the dominating energy. And when scarcity is there, the woman feels unstable, unsafe, insecure, which means sexual connection goes down, communication becomes tough and hard to have, and you have a second phase, which when you're building something and it's working and you're obsessed and your business becomes your mistress and your side piece, and that's like the game, and you're obsessed with building, and then you face chaos and destruction.

[B]

And money goes back into that.

[A]

Exactly. So now the money's going into the company. And then the third level, that's hard, I think, is probably the hardest, which is when you actually have money, because you start to ask interesting questions. And the question a lot of guys have been asking and I've been the last couple years is, okay, so I built this thing. Does this woman actually want me, or does she just like the money in the world that I've created? And if I went back to zero, would she stay? Would she stay?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

This is a hard question. I've asked that question myself. I've been married to my wife for 23 years. We've been together for 25, five kids. And I've asked that question myself. And there's a part of me that's like, I'd like to believe she would, but I don't know how long she could endure, like, the collapse. So I think the money conversation's a very difficult conversation for people to have, but I think it gets even more complicated when dealing with the dynamics of your woman.

[B]

I think that Danielle White stays.

[A]

My soul believes she would stay.

[B]

I think she rolls up her sleeves and fucking goes to war with you.

[A]

I would like to believe this. My soul believes this. My mind.

[B]

She race you to become the next millionaire again? To run it back? I might get competitive in the household. Okay. I mean, you guys, 23 years, I mean, you've been through every roller coaster, and that's the definition, what I call ride or die. Yeah, right, okay. On the how to make money side, a lot of times guys get to 60 grand a year, 80 grand a year, 100 grand a year, and they're just becoming complacent with life, and they're just kind of Groundhog Day repeating everything. What do you think holds them back from taking the next step? To go to 120, 150, 180, and really go to maximize their potential regardless

[A]

of the level of the money? I think this happens, too. This happens with guys that we run with, too. They're making 10 million, 20 million a year. There's a piece of you that becomes identified. So you set this target, you become this thing, and your identity becomes this thing. And that money provides a lifestyle at a certain level that possibly might be bigger than what you ever experienced before. And as you settle into that, your mind becomes connected to, this is who I am. This is what I do. Then you listen to a show or somebody follows you on social media or connects with you or connects with anyone that you run with, and you're like, holy shit, there's something bigger. So the transition is so hard as a fact that you have to break who you are to go to that next place. So if I'm making 80 and I'm trying to go to 250, the guy at 250 does not see the world the same as the guy at 80. His drive's different, Beliefs are different, stories are different. His commitment's different. No different from 250 to 500 to 500 to 2 million, 2 million to 10 million. It's like the place I'm at right now, like, there's just. You have to break. And it's painful. Like it hurts. Like it physically it hurts. Your nervous system freaks the fuck out and thinks, what am I doing? Because you have to let go of patterns that got you there.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You see this with employees who have been employees for 15, 20 years working for other people, and then they finally make the launch to do their own thing, and they realize real quick, holy shit, I might not be as qualified.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And I might have talked too much shit about the people I worked for then, I imagine, because all of a sudden, the weight of it is there. So it's heavy. I think the identity shift is the most painful piece.

[B]

So guy starts to make more money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Starts to get some changes, starts to get a little fit in his life. Goes from 60 to 80, 120. His house actually has a good exit. Brings some new valuation. Man makes $400,000 selling one of the houses now he's got it right. Made an extra half a million this year. What changes in the household? Why do you think that they change with their wife or their children or their lifestyle because now they got some money?

[A]

Well, I am in the world of man. And I will tell you exactly what happens when a man begins to make more money. He stops tolerating things around him. Now, what I mean by that is, things that you tolerated, when you're making 100,000 a year, you won't tolerate at a million, because you won't tolerate it. Why? Because the man that you were at 100 is different than the guy at 200 and different than the guy at a million. Well, that doesn't just apply to business strategy and partnerships. Things you would tolerate in the past, things I would tolerate five years ago in a business partnership, I would never fucking tolerate today. Things I would tolerate in my marriage 10 years ago, I wouldn't tolerate today. So the challenge becomes, if the marriage is not super stable and there's not great communication and a guy makes a bunch more money, he does this silly thing. He looks at his wife, down at her. Oh, now she. The funny part is she might have pulled him along for 10 years while he was fucking off and trying to figure himself out. And within six months to a year, all of a sudden, he makes money and he forgets all of the history that this woman had to go through to be with that man. And the dude leaves. There was an example of this with. I went out with one of my guys and his girlfriend, and I was like, so, what's your story? And she's like, my husband and I have been married. I was like, yes, you're divorced. She said, yep, we were married for 13 years. She said, I got pregnant twice. I put him through medical school. I was working two jobs, had two babies. She's a beautiful woman, Egyptian girl. And my guy's, like, amazed. Never been married. He's 52, and they're together probably. They'll probably stay together. And I go, so, what happened? She's like, this motherfucker finally gets done with medical school, goes through all of his time. He's doing this for a decade, makes 400,000 as a doctor his first year, and starts fucking one of the nurses and then tells me, I want a divorce. She's like, I. I built you. I built you. I funded you. I created. I drug your ass to the finish line within 12 months. It was like nine months.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And she was like, the pain. And, dude, I've seen this happen with guys over and over. That's why guys, if they come in our programs at Warrior, and they're not married. I'm like, don't plan on that one lasting. Because the level you're going to rise with us, if she doesn't rise with you, you're going to be done. Marriage is different. You got kids, you got marriage. There's contracts and commitments. But, dude, you and I have seen this happen. We've seen this happen. Not once. We've seen this happen. To you and I both. We know this is happening right now to dudes that I know all over the country. There was another guy here in town in Miami. He called me, like about a year ago. And I've met him. We're in a yacht thing. And he was just struggling, and he was like, trying to put some stuff together and trying to figure some things out. And then he got. And I told him, listen, man, here's what's gonna happen predictably, okay? You're out some momentum. The things that happen, you're gonna pop. You're gonna get some money this year. Like, it's very clear that you have the pieces dialed in. After five or six years of this, I was like, you're also going on the fitness path.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

And let me tell you what's gonna happen. You're gonna pop and get the money, you're gonna get the fitness. And if you're not careful, this marriage you're in right now, if you don't keep her, part of the problem, it's going to change. So this guy ends up doing exactly why. So I got a call from him like a couple months ago. He's not a client, he's just a dude here in Miami. He's like, how do we have my wife back?

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

I was like, well, give me the narrative. Well, dude, he ran the Miami circuit. Oh, you know exactly what I'm talking about. You run the Miami circuit. So I found out, and I'm like, you got fit and you got rich and you forgot who you were. Like, this in Miami has become like, is a thing because of what I do. I just get lots of calls and three way texts from people. Hey, can you talk to this guy? Sure. Happy to talk to him. And over and over, same pattern. They forget. I don't know, it's weird. I've gone through it. I've gone through it myself. Like, about four or five years ago, we moved in a $28 million house, and we had all the cars and we had all the stuff. And I remember even having the feeling about my wife, she better level the fuck up. You better. You better get your shit Together woman. I remember having these thoughts. It was even fights and arguments we'd have. So I was forgetting. So I can see why guys do it and why it's so hard to talk about it.

[B]

All right, put on the business hat this time. Pop quiz. Personal trainer in Miami. They only have four or five clients. They want to get a bunch more clients. They want, want to raise their rates and really build their personal training business. What would you say to that guy?

[A]

Well, listen, social media is bombarded with every fit jack dude on the planet. So you got competition like crazy on social media. Not saying don't post. I'm not saying don't share your world, not do your thing. But there's this unspoken power that comes with delivering case studies and getting referrals from those case studies, like, and tapping into networks. My trainer, Carter Montgomery Carter's been training me for two and a half years. His company went from like 200,000 a year to like a million a year. And it wasn't because of his social media campaigns. It's because he was plugged in and he trained a guy like me. And when he trained a guy like me, I sent him 150 dudes, right? Because dudes watch the results in me and they're like, who's your guy? So I think right now, the advantage for particularly personal trainers, anyone that's dealing with hands on dude. I go to the gym and I see the trainers. The trainers are all over the clients. They're like, my wife's trainer's all over her. Like they're doing. You're so intimate with this person every day. Getting results for them is number one and number two, asking for referrals. Ask them to tell people about you. And in reality, don't pay them because the minute you pay them referral fees, you're gonna mess it all up. You will fuck it all up. Because people get weird about this. I kind of want to refer Dan, but getting paid, I don't have a problem with it, but most people do. The book drive talks about that. Once you start compensating people for referrals, most people will stop referring. If I got paid every time I told you to go see a cool movie, it changes it. It's not that you shouldn't get paid. So I think the referral game and actually getting results, like case studies, not testimonies. You're awesome, trainer. I love you. No, your dude was here, now look at him. Your woman was here, now look at her. These are the case studies. And then you glorify it. We do it in our salons too, where women come and get the NBR hair and they go from normal hair to like Victoria's Secret model hair. And then we shake the photos in a way for them that lets them feel pride and excitement about being the girl on the photo. But then we have them post and tag and share, and that brings more clients into the salon, too. Case study before, after, ask for referrals.

[B]

Same trainer, he does it. He listens to Garrett White. Goes from, you know, have four or five clients to 30 clients. Crushing it. What does his girlfriend do? As this guy levels up, he's way busier. He doesn't respond to texts anymore. How do they keep the dynamic so they can keep the relationship going?

[A]

Well, number one, being a trainer and training women is always going to be a situation. So I've seen. I've seen two kinds of trainers. Guys that are very flirtatious with all their clients and sleep with some of them. And there's guys that are very committed to their girl and they're not that way. And they just trained. Like, no matter how busy you get, there has to be a deliberate energy. Number one, I'm focused on this woman. If my energy is fractured and shattered and going all to every woman I see and train or every woman at the gym, trouble. Second piece is, once I've collapsed that energy and I focused it, I'm saying, okay, I have to be as deliberate with my woman as I am with my clients. If I want case study results from my client, I have to protect the nutrition plan. I have to be there for the training protocol. I have to be there for training them. On top of this, what else do I have to do? I have to be as deliberate with my partner. But most of us don't think that. I never thought that. I didn't think that for 15, 18 years I would operate one way in business, and then I'd look at my relationship and go, nothing. I got nothing. Like, there was no plan. There was no planned date nights. There was no planned trips. There was no plan. But. But I had all the plan going in business. But then when it came to the relationship, no one ever told me I should have a plan. So if you executed the macro plan for your client the same way you executed the date night plan with your girl, you'd be amazed at what happens.

[B]

All right, let's go to the investing side of things. So that guy starts making money. He actually goes from up to 300k to a million dollars. Just starts crushing it, raises his rates gets other trainers underneath him. He's like, man making commission off of them. Overrides million dollars investing. There's so many options. Real estate, stock market, bitcoin, cash flowing businesses. How the heck can someone figure out what they want to invest into?

[A]

So I come from a little interesting place with this. So I believe the first place a man should invest is himself. Once he's invested himself, invest in his company. So if I have $100,000, where do I have a better shot of getting a high positive ROI on that? I could put it into someone else's company. I could buy stocks, I could put it into a real estate property and get cash flow. I could invest in a software or startup. I could do a lot of things, but the one thing that will always give you the highest rate of return is you and your own company. So I watch and I did this. I would build my cash in the beginning of my first round of companies from 2000, 2008. I want to feel like an investor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I remember writing checks for $600,000, having no fucking clue what I was doing and thinking, I'm an investor. I had you remember the checks, the big fucking open up the book. Long check, the long one. And, and I would write the check. I remember exactly a $600,000 check. I had no idea where that money was really gonna go, but I wanted to feel like an investor. Now on my floor, I had a hundred plus guys. On my sales floor I have this company that's crushing. I didn't ever look at that as an investment. I always looked at, I had to get somebody else's company money versus my money to my company. Third place is cash vaults, which is storing cash. And then once I've done those things, then the only time I invest is, is in something that I have an impact on. Can my human life value impact it? Example, they started building surf parks. I was deep into surfing for five years. They wanted me invest in one of the surf parks. I said, that makes sense. I love surfing. I love surf parks. I have a passion for this. Yeah. And I said, what involvement can I have? And they're like, silent investor. I was like, eh, not gonna play. They're like, why? I said if my human life value can't affect the marketing, affect the sales, affect the park, affect the game. If you want me part of the team, yeah. I'll invest my time, my energy and my money. But if I can't be involved, I'm not, I'm not saying that's not how Professional guys that do that, they know how to invest in other companies. Yes. Guys that know real estate, Grant card owns a mentor and they're like, you should do this, you should do this. And I'm like, it's not my thing. It might be my thing. I'm turning 50 this year. I'm sure real estate will become my thing.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

It just hasn't been my thing. So I think what particularly guys doing a million better systems, better teams, better process build the company, make the investment there. Could you put it somewhere else? You could, you definitely could.

[B]

So on the investing into yourself side of things, let's talk about live events like man in the arena Tour Warrior program, masterminds and as high as up to one on one coaching. Let's walk through the four. So man in the Rent tour, you've heard me say this before. Cheap, affordable. Holy shit. Right? Yeah, cheap. We actually made it super cheap to go to mandarina. It's 100 bucks, 500 bucks, 300 bucks to go to it for people, you know, thousands of men to come into the room. Affordable is going to, you know, mastermind groups where it's 5k, 10k, 25k in that range. And the holy shit is when you get to 50k to 100k for one on one coaching with guys like us or people that they look up to that can really move the needle for them. Walk us through those multiple layers.

[A]

I think, well, number one, you, you should be involved at all in all three. All three levels are amazing. Like we're going to Dr. Joe Dispenza. There's like thousands of people at this event. It's a couple thousand dollars for the ticket. My wife wants to go. That's an experience, right? Truly I'd like my wife to work directly with Joe Dispensary. So I always try to circumvent the thing and go to the top thing. Like that's what I did with 10x. I'm like, I want to work with Grant and Brandon Dawson. How do I do that? $2 million. I'm like, okay, that makes sense. And then I get all the rest. Yes, for sure. But for a lot of us too. Now large virtual or large in person is a great place to start because you get a taste for what something's about. You also get to be around a ton of people. The step up from that though is implementation. So you're not going to get much implementation. Get information experience in these. Then it comes to am I like the information? Can I implement the information? Okay, well you're not going to pull that off in a big arena, then you're going to have to go to a smaller environment where it's more customized, more intimate and you can actually get to know the people. That's where masterminds come to play. Then you get top producing people who move fast, who are at the large event experience and they think, just like you and I, what is the fastest path for, for me to get this done? I could do it by myself. I'm going to fuck a bunch of things up for sure. I could do this in a large group, but I won't get personal attention that I want. I could do this in the Mastermind, which works, but it's still kind of diluted and powerful. But I want the guy. I like the group, I want the guy. And so now there's a commitment saying if I went to the guy, maybe it is 100,000, maybe it's 500,000, whatever it is. But does that increase my speed, collapse my mistakes and give me the result that I want faster? So it depends. You'll see people go all the way up through them. Start here, go to the Mastermind, come to one on one and then you got some people who will just experience first one and go, yeah, I'm just gonna go there right to the top. And that's kind of become my mode a lot in the last like five, eight years. Like if I want to, if I want to be like you, I go to $100 million mastermind. But if I really want the heat, I'm coming straight with you. I'm going to be on your phone dealing with you directly because the counsel you can give me in a 30 minute conversation, I might not be able to gleam in two or three masterminds. I might get it, but I for sure get it if I'm with you. That was me with Brandon. Go to a 10x event. Or I could sit in a one on one conversation with Brandon for an hour or Grant and they just shatter my frames in like 20 minutes and they're like okay, are we done? I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking done, dude. Thank you, knuckle. I'm out. Which that might have taken me six months to get that breakthrough versus one conversation.

[B]

So there's three mistakes that are made at the low, low level ticket price, Mastermind price and one on one coaching the low level ticket price. When you're going to Mandal Arena Tour Aspire Tour large format events a lot or 10x et cetera, what happens is you're on your phone during those eight hours and you're missing so much because you're texting, Instagramming, doing the things during eight hours while Gary Vee's on stage, Grant Cardone's on stage and Garrett White's on stage. And like you're missing out on the Shark tank and all these people that you paid to go there, you traveled to go there and you're messing around on your phone.

[A]

Please.

[B]

When you're at these large format events, focus on the stage, focus on what's happening there, and network during the breaks with everyone that's there. The medium size, the Mastermind size, where you're paying 5k, 10k, 25k, et cetera. You are not networking enough. You should know everyone inside of that room, not just for themselves. They might have other people in their ecosystem. You're like, oh, that's a real estate person. I don't care. That lady owns seven gyms. Who cares? She might know some interesting people that are useful for you. So network with everyone inside the Mastermind. On the one on one coaching side, a closed mouth doesn't get fed if you do not ask questions. And preferably have your questions done in advance so that you come to the phone call and you're not just like, so I'm doing this, and I'm doing this. I'm doing this. Come there with five or 10 questions for your 30 minutes or your hour one on one coaching session and have that thing prepared. Think about it for days in advance and I promise you your one on one coaching will become that much more efficient.

[A]

What's wild to me is to watch. I've had men wire me $500,000 in one on one programs and get into problems and hide.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

Yep, it's the weirdest shit ever. Dudes will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars for help when and if things start getting shaky, then they get shaky and dudes retreat. I had one client like a couple years ago and he wouldn't respond. He wouldn't. My team's calling him, I'm calling him, I'm sending videos. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going on? Finally get a hold of him through his girlfriend. I'm like, where the hell is he? Dude, he's collapsing. I was like, no shit, he's collapsing. I know he's collapsing because he went, go start protocol zero on me for two months. Where's he at? Finally calls me up, finally get on the phone and he's like, rex. And I'm like, what the Fuck. Like, the reason I came into your world was, so what the fuck doesn't happen? And you avoided me. Why? He's like, I just felt fucking horrible and all the stories. And I said, well, dude, you're coming to me now. I was your fire insurance. The house is burned down.

[B]

There's smoke and ashes.

[A]

Now. He's like, what do I do? I was like, we rebuild. Like, I'm gonna speak to you directly. You're fucked. It doesn't mean you're fucked forever, but you're fucked right now. And you didn't have to be fucked. That's why I came into your world six months ago. We knew you were going into a season, but you chose the crazy part. In Masterminds, I used to do this when I first was the master. My first mastermind was Brendan Burchard. I felt so insecure that when I went to the mastermind, I didn't even know how to get help. I was so scared. So during breaks, instead of talking to anybody, hide in the corner, hide in my room, and then I'll come down for a session. Not realizing the power of the mastermind is exactly what you're talking about.

[B]

The breaks.

[A]

Yeah, it's Dan sharing and giving wisdom. That's awesome. But the real power of the mastermind is exactly what you said. You're not just looking at individuals. Each one of these individuals in that group have networks.

[B]

Right?

[A]

You are one conversation away from an explosion in your business because you connected with somebody. And the mindset you have is, well, what can I get from you? That was my mindset. First it was hide. Then it was, what can I get from people? What are my angles? Then it became, hey, what's up? How are you? And I want to know about you.

[B]

Right?

[A]

With no agenda. No, like, I need some shit from you, which. You're elite at this. You're like, the highest level version I've ever met in my life at this point. But then it's like, okay, well, if I come to $100 million mastermind or I come to a mastermind of man arena, what you can see are the people. What you can't see is the ripple of these networks. I mean, someone comes into my world, dude, I'm networked as shit. So are you. Our networks come together and collide with all the networks around, dude. There's not a problem you cannot solve in the ripple. Somebody has a connection to someone that you don't know about with a strategy you can't consider, with a possibility you've never conceived. But you're over here hiding. Here, let me give you 25,000. Come to the mastermind. 100,000. And then, or worse, you started thinking the whole time I wish I could just talk to Dan or Garrett. You're like, I get that. But the money's right in front of you. And if you're not an asshole and you just show up and be authentically you. Some people like you, some people won't. But the ones that do, I mean, I still have people. When we did, we did Hundred Million Dollar Mastermind in my backyard.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Just that there are people I still connect with, like Josh, Kirk, all these guys I still connect with that we don't. We just connect. That's it. Oh, I wouldn't have met them if you hadn't brought them to my backyard. They weren't going to come to my backyard without you. Hey, guys, come to my backyard. So even in that, like my, my team even, I had some people asking me, why, why are you. Why are you. Why are you putting this on? I was like, cuz, I'm going to business with Dan. He needed help. That's it. I got a house. It's a cool backyard.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Throw some shit over the pool. Let's build a thing for him and, and go. Well, the value to me was just getting to meet all these cool people.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And value to you was a place to do it.

[B]

Y.

[A]

And also was helping us in the beginning stages, what we were building with man, the arena.

[B]

Yeah. Third and final chapter charity. Why is it important for the wives and children of the man, hopefully running that household, for them to see him involved in some charity and potentially hopefully involving the kids and wife in that charity?

[A]

Yes. Your children are watching always. They watch your habits, they watch your patterns. My kids know my morning routine. They know dad's praying, Dad's in the Bible, dad's stacking. I do. They know I work out. They know my wife and I cold punch. They see everything. But what most guys don't realize is your kids are watching your patterns with money. They're watching what you do. So my kids, I like, I believe in a tithe, but I don't believe in a tithe to a church. So I tithe differently, which is that's one way of charity for me, which is there's a percent of my money that I fully plan on just giving people. And so I make sure my kids see it. So when we're supporting somebody's child to go through rehab and I'm funding it for 90 days to six months. I want them in the conversation of it. We did this with one of their swim instructors. He was coming to the house to get through swimming lessons for younger kids, and his son was in a horrible place and suicidal, and he didn't have the cash to take care of it. And so we sat with him, with my kids, and had him share the situation with his son. I said, I got you. And they got to watch this grown man break down in tears. They got to see the process and experience of it. The thing I still struggle with is my kids have been raised in so much abundance that they're quick to tip everybody, but they don't have. I'm working now on trying to help them understand because the whole world they're in is kind of this abundant bubble. They're used to pushing buttons and shit just happens. They push a button and shit shows up.

[B]

Food deliveries, doordash, Ubers, everything.

[A]

Everything. Like my kid. My kids, for the first time, like, a year and a half ago, we took them to a Regal theater to see a movie. But they've always gone to theaters with the buttons and the servers and the lay you down and the blankets and the people coddling over you. And my little ones were, like, totally confused.

[B]

They're like, dad, dad, how do we get food?

[A]

Dad, where's the button? There's no button, dad. My chair doesn't go back.

[B]

My chair doesn't lean back.

[A]

Why is it sitting like baby? That's how it is. What do you mean? So I'm in a season now. I'll be 50 this year. Where I've become very aware of the fact that abundance can be a curse if there's attachment to the giving. So now we moved into this chapter this year with very deliberate about creating experiences for my kids to see how life is outside of the bubble, but also to have them be in a place of giving. So anytime we're tipping anyone, or I'll tip valet, I'll have the kids go do it.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Like, take the cash, go give them a tip. And then they're learning on the receipts what percentages are here in Miami. Everything's like 20% guaranteed. 18%. 20, whatever. Well, how much should we give them? I was like, well, let's figure it out. Well, why are we giving them so much? Who is that? It's a lady. No, that's a mom. Do you know if she's married? Is she a single mom? This is how she pays for food. This is how she lives. Daddy goes to work. This is her Going to work. So you're on a different level with it, with the foundations and all the stuff you do with toy drive, which is like, and very inspiring. Like, I watch your passion with it and your obsession with it.

[B]

Obsessed.

[A]

Like it's an obsession. Like, what drives you to do that for you.

[B]

I still remember the one toy that I got. It was a little Hulk Hogan that you put your thumb in the back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I still remember that. Like, we just didn't have any money when I was a kid. And so I remember if I had that emotion to that, what would happen if I gave kids five toys each that don't have money and the relief for the parents. And so when we did our first one 12 years ago, I just watched like the parents relief when they would walk in and they've got three kids and the kids are getting five toys each. That's 15 toys. That's like hundreds of dollars. Oh my God. Right? That's a big deal. And so then it just kept compounding from eight volunteers to 20 volunteers to now stadiums and arenas. So. But it started from like, I just saw the, the things that would happen to a child and things that have happened to the parent as well.

[A]

We had, during, during the Christmas season, we had a, a gentleman who's connected to my kids, who supports them, coaches them, and he, he probably made the hardest call a man could ever make. It's like two days before Christmas and he calls me. We're close, but not real close. And breaking down in tears. He's like, my daughter's coming down, my wife's had a miscarriage, the salary I make, like, gee, I'm like, man, I'm hurting, dude. Like, I, I, like, I can barely like, provide food right now. Like, and it's Christmas and I'm not, I'm not asking. Car just broke down.

[B]

Like, if I fix the car, do I buy toys?

[A]

He's just stuck, dude. He has no car situation. And I'm sitting listening to him. And I said, so first time, I said, bro, the fact that you had the courage to just ask, right? Number one, huge. Number two, the fact that you were willing to reach out to me speaks volumes too. I said, I'm not giving you a loan. I was like, what's your venmo? I said, I'm going to send you a gift. God delivered abundance under my life. Let me help you. And we sent it. And then I sat with my daughters who were connected to him. And I didn't specifically talk because I don't want it to Be weird for the kids with him. But we talked about the principle. We drive past this guy on the road too and has on his wheelchair. And I just felt called God, told him to pull over. And I pulled over and I started talking to him. This dude was like, has a huge beard, no legs, sitting in his wheelchair, he's got a bible on his lap and he just starts breathing the power of God through his eyes. To me, it was the wildest experience. I said, what can I do to help you? And he's like, nothing. I just want you to be a great man. I'm like, wow, okay. I say, I received that. What else can I do to support you? He said, I need my wheels broken. I need a new wheelchair. So I called my team and I said, hey, I'm going to connect you. I said, give me your number. Got his number, connected the team and I said, hey, we're going to get this dude a new wheelchair.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And my teams were so excited. The girls on my team were like freaking out, pumped all day. So they spent the whole day coordinating, finding that, finding the hand, the wheelchair that he needed, taking it in one of the SUVs going downtown, finding where he was, got him the wheelchair. So there's just moments I think that we're doing every day. There's huge stuff like you're doing, which is amazing. I wanted to do stuff like this, the path I'm on for sure. But guys, there's like the day to day stuff of just helping people around you that you can do even if it's 20 bucks. It's like just being able to help time, energy and money to help other people.

[B]

All right, where can they find Garrett J. White across social media. Mandarina Tour the Warrior was way all the things tell them everything.

[A]

Wakeupwarrior.com Probably a good place to start. We run events every single month. We run man arena tour every couple months. We've got a lot going on social media. GarrettJ White on Instagram, many of the platforms and those, those are probably a good place to start. Like wake up Warrior. You just Google it, you'll find it. There's a lot of pass there. You can also pick up a book called Warrior Book which we have hundreds and hundreds of those go out every single month. You can get [e-mail].

[B]

what about Danielle? What's she got going on Danielle?

[A]

My wife's in the hair space and she is. We're currently working a deal. We'll see if it goes through with a very, very large brand. In the hair space. And we'll see if we can. We're at like stage three on this one, so we'll see the next testing phase happens. If it works, then it'll be the biggest partnership she's ever had, which would be real exciting. But she does hair extensions, trains, hairstylist, has her own hairlines. She's a producing woman. If. If I. If I died or was a total idiot and up the marriage. And she let this woman's fine to take care of herself for life, but she can find her. She's all over the place with a brand called Natural Beaded Rose and Isla Hair runs one of the top hair extension lines in the country and one of the top hair product lines. So. And then she just got into wigs, nice wigs. And she's taking a different angle. She's taking wigs not just to the African American community, but her partners. Partners are black and they are deep in the wit in the wig world. And she got fascinated by this. So she's actually building a foundation to deliver wigs to white women and black women, any woman. But those are the partnership. But the real angle she's taking, she's like, I'm gonna make wigs cool for white people. She said, because she runs with so many ethnic and Latino, black, Asian women in hair world. But white women have always been like, no. And they used to be that way with hair extensions or no, this is not a. This is not a white girl thing. But she's going specifically after women with alopecia, like cancer, hairs falling out, thin breaking, and gonna do wigs. So we'll see how that goes. She's super excited about it.

[B]

I love it. I'm actually interviewing her partner in two hours.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

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[A]

White.

[B]

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