The Monocle Daily: “Live from Nuuk: Is Trump Backing Down?”
Broadcast Date: January 21, 2026
Location: Catuaq, The Greenland Cultural Center, Nuuk
Host: Andrew Muller
Panelists: Nukaluk Joe Kleist (CEO of Pikayala, former director of Catuaq), Diego Arizpoleta (Spain’s national broadcaster), Alexis Self (Monocle’s Foreign Editor)
Correspondents/Guests: Carlotta Rebelo (Monocle's Senior Foreign Correspondent, live from Davos), Jurgen Baijkastrup (CEO, Hotel Hans Egede), Casper Frank Muller (CEO and Co-Founder, Raw Arctic)
Episode Overview
Main Theme:
The episode examines President Donald Trump’s latest remarks on his intentions regarding Greenland, assessing whether Greenlanders and the international community are reassured by his apparent unwillingness to “take Greenland by force.” Broadcasting live from Nuuk, the panel explores local, European, and global reactions, dives into the mood on the ground, and investigates how geopolitical tension is impacting Greenland’s business climate and tourist trade.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. President Trump’s Remarks at Davos ([06:14], [08:19])
- Trump stated:
“We probably won’t get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force where we would be, frankly, unstoppable. But I won’t do that.” ([06:47])
- The panel questions the credibility and durability of this statement given Trump's unpredictability.
Notable Quotes:
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Andrew Muller: “Is anyone in Greenland or anywhere else reassured? Is it clear to anyone what Trump's immediate negotiations would look like or who they'd be with? And has all of this nonsense at least been good for Greenland's tourist trade?” ([00:07])
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Carlotta Rebelo (Davos):
“The great thing about Trump that we all know is the unpredictability... just having that out of the way [his ruling out force] was a big relief.” ([08:43])
"...the speech was basically telling off everybody for not being grateful enough. Denmark is not grateful enough, Venezuela is not grateful enough... you name a nation and probably he’ll have some grievance." ([09:17])
2. Local Perspective: Mood, Anxiety, and Government Guidance ([05:15], [10:00])
- The atmosphere in Nuuk is tense. Residents oscillate between worry and resignation; repeated shifts in US policy cause anxiety.
Key Points:
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Greenlanders are “almost scared of what may happen,” noticing a decisive shift from dismissiveness to concern over the past year.
— Diego Arizpoleta:“Last year… people didn’t think he was serious and they kind of joked about what he meant about Greenland. Now… Greenlanders are almost scared of what may happen.” ([04:55])
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Government response has included emergency preparedness messaging:
— Lex Self:“The government can assure the people that they have enough medical supplies, enough food and enough water to last for five days… the mood was a bit lighter than it had been yesterday.” ([05:15])
3. European and International Reactions ([13:13], [15:19])
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Canada’s PM Mark Carney’s speech in Davos is referenced, suggesting “the old order is over.” NATO and European leaders are struggling to manage the uncertainty and lack of reliability from Trump.
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European sensitivity to threats:
— Nukaluk Joe Kleist:“…for a year now, the focus has been that the US is such an important ally… But… you also have to have some kind of a limit at some point and say, well, this is the limit. If you do this, we will do that.” ([15:19])
4. On the Ground: Nuuk’s Atmosphere – “Vox Populi” ([17:29]-[21:39])
- Lex Self conducted interviews in Nuuk to capture the mood:
- Some unbothered, trusting long-standing legal protocols (“You can’t just take another country.” – [20:03])
- Others overtly anxious (“I hate his rhetoric. I hope he doesn’t buy us.” – [20:51])
- Emergency siren test caused some alarm among non-locals, though locals reassured this is standard procedure.
5. Business and Tourism Impact
a. Hotelier’s Perspective ([22:21]-[26:47])
- Jurgen Baijkastrup (Hotel Hans Egede CEO): Uptick in business from the press, military, and police; typically quiet winter now busy due to world attention.
- Increase in short-term business but summer tourist bookings see some cancellations due to fears about instability.
“Normally in January hotel business is low. But this January… we have reporters, military, police from all over the world.” ([22:42])
b. Business Consulting and Local Adaptation ([27:18]-[31:59])
- Nukaluk Joe Kleist: Emphasizes the importance of personal contact and understanding small-community mentality in Greenlandic business; the “Donald Trump school of deal making” unlikely to work.
“We are people that are very proud of and really believe that we are connected to the surroundings we are living in. That respect for nature… and the community is what’s most important.” ([30:14])
c. Tourism Operator’s View ([35:05]-[40:41])
- Casper Frank Muller (Raw Arctic): World attention, fueled by Trump, initially boosted inbound interest. Now, bookings pause amid concerns about US intent.
“When a guy like Donald Trump, one of the most powerful people on earth, starts talking about a country that has barely been mentioned in, in the world history, it does something… It had a huge upside… But there’s so much… being talked about Greenland… so people… decide to kind of pause their bookings.” ([37:41]-[39:23])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On National Anxiety:
“Every day we wake up and there is a new, some kind of new message to us in Greenland or Denmark… no one knows what’s going to happen.”
— Nukaluk Joe Kleist ([10:00]) -
On Global Leadership:
“I don’t think they [NATO leaders] are sure about what’s going to happen… if today Trump says A, it’s going to be A, tomorrow it’ll probably be B or C or D…”
— Diego Arizpoleta ([13:13]) -
On Community Values:
“When a reporter asked a 14-year-old girl, ‘Donald Trump says he’s going to make you rich. Don’t you want that?’ She said… ‘We are rich already… We are already great.’”
— Nukaluk Joe Kleist ([30:14]) -
On Tourism’s “Double-Edged Sword”:
“Greenland became a new tourist destination. It’s trendy again. Who doesn’t want to go to Greenland before it’s taken over by the US—that’s at least the statement people are stating. But... there’s so much media momentum... so people… decide to kind of pause their bookings.”
— Casper Frank Muller ([38:38])
Important Timestamps
- [00:07] — Framing questions: Is Trump backing down? What’s the impact locally and globally?
- [02:09] — Nukaluk introduces Catuaq as the “beating heart” of Nuuk’s cultural life.
- [05:15] — Lex reports on a tense but slightly improved local mood after Trump’s speech and government reassurances.
- [08:19] — Carlotta Rebelo describes the tense atmosphere in Davos ahead of Trump’s speech.
- [10:00] — Nukaluk shares Greenlandic concerns about unpredictability and government advice on emergency preparation.
- [13:13] — Diego and Lex discuss Europe’s need for clarity in responses to Trump.
- [15:19] — Nukaluk describes evolving Danish and European approaches toward U.S. threats.
- [17:29] — Lex captures public sentiment (“vox populi”) in Nuuk; emergency siren anecdote.
- [22:21] — Hotelier Jurgen Baijkastrup describes unusual tourism and media activity.
- [31:59] — Panelists share what they hope for in coming days; all underscore the wish for stability.
- [35:05] — Casper Frank Muller chronicles the boom and hesitation in Greenlandic tourism.
- [39:48] — Muller confirms that locals do fear possible U.S. action, especially after events in Venezuela.
Episode Tone and Takeaways
The tone throughout is watchful, wry, and gently skeptical. Locals express fundamental pride and community resilience but are simultaneously unsettled by volatile U.S. diplomacy. The panel highlights both the practical impacts (emergency readiness, business disruptions, tourism swings) and the broader existential uncertainty caused by Greenland’s sudden prominence on the geopolitical stage.
For Listeners:
This episode offers invaluable firsthand accounts of how world events ripple through a tight-knit, proud community suddenly at the center of international drama. The mix of live public reactions, business insight, and on-the-ground reporting brings home both the seriousness and the absurdity of the “Greenland Question” in 2026.
