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The Moonshot Podcast
Hosted by X, The Moonshot Factory · EN
The Moonshot Podcast chronicles the untold stories of innovation - both highs and lows - from inside Google’s Moonshot Factory. In Season 2, Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with a new crop of moonshot takers exploring the next frontiers in health, biology, computing and more. From energy kites and robotic pants, to sea fuel and digital immune systems, go behind the scenes with the inventors and creators working to turn "what if" into what’s next.
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The Digital Trail
1w ago00:50:47Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores two ambitious moonshots focused on bringing "visibility" to the world's most complex and opaque digital and physical systems. First, Astro is joined by Mike Wiacek, Stephen Gillett, and Shapor Naghibzadeh from Chronicle to discuss how they built a digital immune system for cybersecurity, using Google-scale data analysis to detect anomalous activity and combat a global economic threat. Next, Astro speaks with Steven Chen and Suresh Vishnubhatla from Chorus, a moonshot focused on indexing the physical world to address monumental supply chain waste and inefficiency. 0:00 - Intro 01:25 - The "A-ha" moment that started Chronicle 03:35 - Rethinking the future of cybersecurity 05:17 - Building a "Digital Immune System" 11:35 - The terrifying scale of cyberattacks 10 years ago 13:08 - Understanding the 3 tiers of cybercriminals 15:46 - How Chronicle differed from other cybersecurity tools 19:27 - The “Coming Out” party: taking the tech public 21:12 - Returning to Google 23:23 - Memories and lessons learned from their time at X 24:53 - Enter Project Chorus: Meet Steven and Suresh 26:11 - Solving the supply chain’s biggest blind spot 29:41 - From idea to execution: How Chorus took flight 31:07 - What Chorus offers today 34:26 - A deep dive into the tech 36:46 - The evolution of Chorus 40:27 - How Chorus achieves “System-Wide” visibility 44:17 - Why every item in the supply chain matters 46:07 - Behind the scenes: Funniest project moments 47:28 - How Chorus could fundamentally change the world 48:55 - Final thoughts – Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 16 years of Alphabet’s moonshot factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. If you want to take your own moonshots, we've developed a certificate course with MasterClass on how to take bold ideas and translate them into real world impact. Check it out here: https://www.masterclass.com/certificates/breakthrough-innovation-strategy-from-bold-idea-to-business-impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Silicon Horizons
2w ago00:36:51Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores how X is reimagining computer chip design to power the next generation of AI. Computer engineer Tammo Spalink joins host Astro Teller to discuss Project Positron and their radical decision to build "positronic brains" for robots that prioritize real-time response over raw throughput. Astro then speaks with Raj Apte about Project Bodger, a moonshot that uses AI to design the hardware of the future. By moving away from traditional, hand-drawn architectures and toward "inverse design," the team explores how computers can create chips that are faster and more efficient than anything humans could design on their own. Finally, the conversation looks toward the future of automated chip design and its role in accelerating Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). From personalizing healthcare to solving complex climate challenges, Astro and Raj discuss how these breakthroughs are ensuring the "silent, beating heart" of technology can keep up with our biggest ambitions. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Ocean Fuel, Desert Rain
3w ago00:46:44Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores two moonshots that investigated very different ways to use water: harvesting it from the air and transforming it into fuel. Astro Teller first chats with Neil Treat and Claudia Truesdell from Project H2E (“Hydration to Everyone”). The H2E team explored whether it would be possible to improve access to safe drinking water by harvesting water from the air. Next he sits down with Kathy Hannun from Foghorn, an X project that found a way to pull carbon and hydrogen out of seawater and combine it to create a new type of carbon-neutral fuel. The team successfully created fuel using this method, however they weren’t able to do so at a cost competitive with gasoline. 0:00 - Intro 00:58 - Meet Neil Treat and Claudia Treusdell from H2E 01:48 - The crisis: Global water insecurity 04:14 - The location of water-stressed communities 06:17 - The "Magic Box": Harvesting water from the air 09:00 - Defining H2E’s "Kill Criteria" 09:25 - Mechanics: How the H2e device functioned 11:24 - Engineering the internal air flow 12:51 - Material science: Selecting the right desiccant 14:29 - The "Mule": Prototyping a moonshot 15:24 - Early H2E prototype evolution 16:59 - Surprising engineering hurdles 18:48 - Sharing H2E’s results with the world 20:12 - Could H2E’s moonshot become a reality today? 22:12 -What the H2E team are up to today 24:01 - Project Foghorn: The fuel from the sea 24:49 - The origins of Foghorn 27:09 - Why Foghorn pursued a carbon-neutral fuel for combustion engines 28:59 - The process: Extracting CO2 from seawater 30:35 - Chemistry: Turning ocean water into methanol 33:01 - Foghorn’s "Kill Criteria" and testing 39:13 - Why the project was wound down 42:21 - Lessons learned 43:18 - Remembering Matt Eisaman 44:33 - Conclusion – Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 16 years of Alphabet’s moonshot factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. If you want to take your own moonshots, we've developed a certificate course with MasterClass on how to take bold ideas and translate them into real world impact. Check it out here: https://www.masterclass.com/certificates/breakthrough-innovation-strategy-from-bold-idea-to-business-impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Breaking New Ground
4w ago00:36:17Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores how X, The Moonshot Factory, is reimagining a better way to plan and make smarter, faster building decisions to address the global housing crisis. Host Astro Teller is joined by architect Michelle Kaufmann to discuss the quest of making sustainable, high-quality homes accessible to everyone through the power of prefabrication and AI. They look back on how the team developed a first-of-its-kind software system that could iterate hundreds of building designs in seconds—essentially creating an "intelligent clay" that calculates costs and structural requirements in real time. Next, Astro talks with Adrian Walker and Julia Ling about their new venture, Anori. They discuss how generative AI and data-sharing are finally digitizing the construction industry, allowing developers to de-risk projects and optimize for health and sustainability from day one. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Chasing the Wind, Storing the Sun
Apr 800:37:00Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores X's pursuit of radical solutions to drive energy abundance and resilience for humanity. Host Astro Teller is joined by Fort Felker to discuss the untold story of the Makani Moonshot, which sought to harvest wind energy in a radically different, lightweight way, using a tethered, kite-like aircraft. Next, Astro and engineer Raj Apte discusses Project Malta and the idea of creating a "time shifter for energy," exploring innovative ways to store energy until the grid needs it. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Coding The Natural World
Apr 100:39:56Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Moonshot Podcast dives into the future of biology, exploring how to harness life's "tiny factories" to solve humanity's biggest challenges. Host Astro Teller sits down with Brad Zamft, CEO of Heritable Agriculture, to talk about programming plants to dramatically increase yield, pest, and drought resistance for a more sustainable food system. Next Astro speaks with Relly Brandman from project A-Life about unlocking the manufacturing power of biology, using AI to create a "virtual cell" that shifts biomanufacturing from slow trial-and-error to a predictable engineering discipline for making materials like medicines, fuels, and textiles. Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 15 years of Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Supercharging Human Health
Mar 2500:44:11Tap to summarizeThe Moonshot Podcast is back! In the season 2 premiere, X’s Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller explores how three X projects developed technology to transform the future of healthcare. He first sits down with Kathryn Zealand and Anna Roumiantseva from Skip to hear about how the world’s first “e-bike for walking” evolved from their team’s mobility moonshot at X. They recount how an early prototype of Skip’s powered pants helped carry a colleague to top of the Salesforce Tower, and share how the product has developed since spinning out into an independent company (Astro even tries a pair on for size to see their progress firsthand). Microelectronics expert Will Biederman then joins Astro for a conversation about the origins of Project Iris, a computerized contact lens designed to help measure diabetes risk, which laid the foundation for the continuous glucose monitors that millions of people use today. Finally, Astro chats with Verily CEO Stephen Gillet to hear about his mission to make precision healthcare accessible to anyone, anywhere, at any time. 0:00 - Intro 1:08 - Meet Kathryn Zealand and Anna Roumiantseva, Skip 1:57 - An “e-bike for walking” 2:35 - Why mobility needs a moonshot 3:42 - Limitations with current mobility solutions 6:19 - Criteria for the world’s first “movewear” 7:37 - Understanding the complexities of human motion 9:13 - How much weight Skip’s pants can carry 9:40 - Racing to the top of the Salesforce Tower 13:54 - Skip’s partnership with Arc’teryx 14:40 - The “kill criteria” for Skip’s moonshot 17:29 - Astro tries Skip’s pants on for size 18:55 - Meet Will Biederman, Project Iris 19:26 - Can a computerized contact lens help prevent diabetes? 20:19 - The potential worldwide impact of glucose monitoring 20:52 - Can tears help measure glucose? 22:50 - How to put a computer into a contact lens 24:11 - Project Iris’s early findings using glasses 25:20 - Fitting the “world’s smallest batteries” onto a contact lens 26:18 - A close-up view of the Project Iris contact lens 28:55 - How Project Iris transformed continuous glucose monitoring 31:18 - The origins of the Dexcom 7 32:08 - How glucose monitoring could lead to other health breakthroughs 32:55 - The future of everyday medical technologies 33:42 - Liftware’s “robot in a spoon” to counter tremors 34:16 - Meet Steven Gillett, Verily CEO 35:09 - Verily’s mission to democratize precision healthcare 36:30 - How Verily can aggregate a person’s entire medical history 39:05 - How Verily’s technology keeps private data secure 39:43 - Steve’s vision for how Verily can change the world 41:17 - What needs to happen in order to reach autonomous healthcare 42:27 - Conclusion – Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 16 years of Alphabet’s moonshot factory. The Moonshot Podcast is a Pique Action production for X, The Moonshot Factory, produced in association with Blanchard House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Season 2: The Moonshot Podcast Trailer
Mar 1100:02:02Tap to summarizeThe Moonshot Podcast is back! The Moonshot Podcast chronicles the untold stories of innovation - both highs and lows - from inside Google’s Moonshot Factory. In Season 2, Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with a new crop of moonshot takers exploring the next frontiers in health, biology, computing and more. From energy kites and robotic pants, to sea fuel and digital immune systems, go behind the scenes with the inventors and creators working to turn "what if" into what’s next. Available from March 25, wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive: Emily Ma on Solving Food Waste
Jan 1300:49:22Tap to summarizeIn the ninth installment of the Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive series, Astro Teller and Emily Ma explore how to solve humanity’s food waste and hunger problems. They discuss how Project Delta built an “air traffic control” system for the world’s surplus food. They also discuss the origins of Chorus, X’s moonshot to give every object a voice which is now focused on optimizing global supply chains using advanced sensors and orchestration software. For more on the future of food waste, tune into Episode 6 of the Moonshot Podcast, “Trash to Treasure”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgRASA92Dco Video Segmentation 00:00 - Introduction 01:38 - The origins of Emily’s passion for food waste 04:07 - Why food waste is such a big problem 07:09 - How Emily wound up at X 10:24 - Google Glass in early food waste prototypes 12:06 - Emily’s “waste audit” sifting through physical trash 15:08 - How food is wasted in every phase of the production process 20:36 - An “air traffic control” system for the world’s surplus food 23:54 - How X’s food waste technology helped tackle that surplus 29:25 - What the team learned by working in the field 30:40 - Food waste “nodes” to reroute surplus food 33:34 - Applying X’s food waste technology outside the U.S. 35:41 - The team’s early vision for a supply chain moonshot - Chorus 39:56 - How Chorus evolved from the Delta team 41:26 - How Delta graduated to Google 45:06 - Emily’s fondest moonshot memories 46:54 - The importance of play when taking moonshots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcribe →The Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive: Jason Rugolo on iyO and the Future of Audio Wearables
Nov 2501:05:58Tap to summarizeIn the eighth installment of the Moonshot Podcast Deep Dive series, Astro Teller discusses the future of audio wearables with iyO Founder Jason Rugolo. They discuss the many unexpected use cases for machine-mediated hearing, what it was like to build the world’s first audio computer and how to make audio wearables “cool.” For more on the origins of iyO and the next generation of audio wearable technology, tune into Episode 9 of the Moonshot Podcast, “Supersenses”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpF2QJNL5Y 00:00 - Introduction 02:17 - The first company Jason started at age 14 04:02 - How Jason came to X 06:40 - Jason’s earliest “fail fast” moonshot ideas 09:54 - The importance of being “the right amount too early” 12:45 - Radical idea for digital humans 14:59 - Early explorations into tele-video 18:49 - The original pitch for what became iyO 22:24 - Why designing great wearables for the ear is so hard 24:52 - Design considerations for audio wearables 29:41 - Making audio wearables “cool” 31:32 - The limitations of current in-ear devices 32:33 - The “superpowers” we’d have with machine-mediated hearing 35:30 - Building the first audio computer 36:30 - What the team’s first audio wearable looked like 38:01 - How audio wearables could help with translation 40:55 - The potential for wearables to protect from hearing loss 41:57 - The future of “hearing enhancement” apps 44:45 - The unexpected value of voice-to-audio interaction 48:34 - Astro’s “holy s**t” moment with audio wearables 52:26 - Why audio wearables need to change sound sources so quickly 55:47 - iyO’s public debut 57:23 - Surprising agentic AI use cases 58:50 - Physics conversations with the Einstein app using iyO 01:00:58 - Musical conversations with the iyO DJ app using iyO 01:01:51 - Jason’s hard-won lessons from taking moonshots Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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