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Dan Kennedy
Welcome to the Moth Podcast. I'm Dan Kennedy. This week we have a couple of favorites from our Moth Story Slam series and I've told you about. These are basically sort of our open mic nights and I still have a huge soft spot for these shows. I still host one here in New York and last month when I hosted it, we had this amazing little slam moment which this one guy got up and he just sort of stood there for like the first 30 seconds looking out at the crowd and he was probably like the fourth storyteller of the night. And the first line out of his mouth was, alright, so I guess I think people like prepare for these stories a little bit. Maybe I haven't. I just walked in here. That is why I love the slams and will never stop loving them. This first slam story was from a 2011 show here in New York City and the theme was fame. Here's Molly Cameron.
Molly Cameron
Hi, everyone. Okay, so my best friend Andrea used to live in this big house in Boston with this band called Pretty and Nice. Now I am obsessed with this band. The second I heard their music, I started going to all their New York shows and quickly turned into a bit of a super fan. But I'm also friends with them. So I really just like to think that if I were in the movie Almost Famous, which I like to believe I always am, I would be like the Penny Lane to There's Still Water. So one night in this giant house, I'm rifling through Andrea's crazy closet and I find this crazy like pink and white terry cloth short shorts romper. And having been full of vodka, I immediately put it on. Andrea immediately takes out her camera. And I just thought it was so hilarious because it was so short that my butt cheeks were just escaping. But she's just taking pictures and she was on this kick. She's a really great photographer and she's on this kick of trying to capture mid air jumps. So I'm jumping around the entire house in this romper and she was like getting all these great pictures of me in midair. So about two months later, we'd almost forgotten about this. She develops the role of film and her roommate Jeremy, who's also the lead singer of this band, sees these pictures and says that they are so awesome. He wants them to be the basis for the COVID of their next album. And I just flipped the fuck out. I was like, are you kidding me? He might as well have said that I was going to be like on a billboard next to the Hollywood sign. This was, this was the peak. So they talked to their label and the label decides that Andrea can handle the actual cover art, but they would like to do a press shoot. And they contact this guy Brett, who had just done a shoot for a little band called the Shins and he was conveniently in Brooklyn and they also wanted me to be in this press shoot. So every day that we got closer to the shoot, I was getting more and more excited. I was like, yeah, press shoot, I know how this is going to be. It's going to be like a big white studio. There's going to be all these lights and maybe a fan. And, you know, the label will bring, like, champagne and a fruit platter, because that's what labels do. And I was the only girl involved, so I was like, oh, there'll be a makeup artist. I'll have all these outfits, and it'll just be like a big crazy party. And all I could think of was, you know, Alicia Silverstone and the Aerosmith figures. Like, she wasn't in the band, but she was an icon because of that. And I was like their muse. And what if we were in Rolling Stone magazine and I got to be on the road with them and maybe I could play tambourine and maybe I'd get a movie deal. So this was going to be my big break. So the day finally comes, and I follow the direction to this place, meet up with the guys. It's Jeremy, this other guitarist, Holden, and the drummer, Bobby. We're in Greenpoint, and we all followed the directions of his address. And we meet Brett in his one bedroom basement apartment. So he's the exact opposite of how I imagined him to be. He's got, like, long, crazy hair. He's really quiet, and just the interaction of hellos is so weird that I'm just uncomfortable. And he offers us some beers. And Even though it's 11am I accept because I'm slowly realizing this is the closest thing I'm probably going to get to the champagne and the fruit platter. So we change into our outfits. The guys get to wear, like, skinny jeans and ironic T shirts. And I put on the Romper, plus a fuzzy hat, giant sunglasses, and white pumps. Because there's no fashion director. It's these four hipster man boys. So we do these awkward test shots in his backyard, and then Brett says he wants to get a nature vibe going. So we all pile in the car and we go to Prospect Park. And I was actually feeling a little more optimistic, so I was like, okay, this is going to be, you know, sunshine and grass, and maybe it'll be fun. It'll be fun. But we get there and we immediately hike into the woods. And we're all helping him carry his gear and we're walking. I'm still in the romper, too. Walking for what seems like, you know, two miles in Prospect Park. Whenever you're walking, it feels like you're there for miles and miles. But he stops in the middle of this hiking trail, and he's like, this is the spot. We're Going to recreate the jump here. I was like, okay, I guess so. So the guys just get to stand there and look cool. And he wants me to jump repeatedly over and over in many different places, all around them, just again and again in this romper. Now, at this point, I had hit the peak of performance anxiety. It was. This was nothing like the fun, drunken night I had with Andrea. And it was certainly nothing like the idea of glamour I had for this whole whole photo shoot. I was in the woods, it was totally quiet, and I was really sober, and there were. And because it was a hiking trail, there were people walking by, and there was no way that I could hide this, like, butt cheeks coming out. Every time I landed, my white pumps are sinking into the soil. And I was just trying really hard to, like, land and look natural or even, like, kind of sexy. But it was probably the most unnatural, unsexy thing I had ever done. And by the time that shoot was over, I was just so happy to get out of that romper. And so a couple months later, the photos got released, the album came out, and it did get on a few websites and indie magazines, but nothing like a huge billboard. And I was actually grateful because every time I look at those photos, I just feel awkward all over again. And it. It makes me wonder why we tried to recreate something that was just a drunken inspiration anyway, and just recreate it over and over. And it makes me think, like, how the cast of Jersey Shore must be feeling because they're doing that. But I feel like it was crazy of me to think that that is what was going to make me famous. And if I ever am famous someday, I really hope that the People magazine fact checkers don't recognize me behind the big hat and sunglasses. Thank you.
Dan Kennedy
Awesome story there from Molly Cameron, which actually led me to one of the more amusing Google Image searches I've ever conducted. Because the truth is, that album cover is really cool. It's like a great indie rock album cover. But knowing the context of that shoot from Molly's Story, you just can't help looking at it and knowing what she's thinking. It's hilarious. Molly Cameron is a writer and performer from the woods of New Hampshire who now lives in Astoria, New York. Her writing has been featured on a site called this Recording and also on Flavor Wire. She's currently working on a memoir about the time she broke eight bones. For our second story, we go down to New Orleans. Our New Orleans story slam started at the end of 2013. This story is from the third one that we ever had there. The theme was nerve. Here's a story from Stevie long.
Stevie Long
So I'm 8 years old in CCD. I don't know what that means to this day, but it's for poor kids who can't go to Catholic school. I have recently learned what the word genital means because of my best friend, Joe Walsh. So I'm sitting there thinking about how I can use this word, and I can't think of any better place than Catholic after school programming. So the teacher is in front of us, and he's constantly saying, our Father. He our God. And I ask, I raise my hand slowly, waiting for my turn. How do we know that God has genitals? Yeah, you've got a lot of nerve, kid, is what my teacher responds. We don't know that God has genitals. God is just it. So I remain silent, coloring my Moses picture until he says something again as our Father. And I say, aha. And then I'm escorted out into the hallway. As I'm sitting there, I'm thinking of my father coming down the hallway, who in about 30 minutes is supposed to pick me up, who's always been a big fan of me having nerve. But as I'm sitting out there with crayons that I refuse to give back to the teacher, I see my father and his ties strolling down the hallway. And I'm coming up with a million different stories to tell him why I'm out there. And when he gets in front of me, looming, I just announce. I said genitals in class. I can't describe his face. It just was a question mark. The teacher asked if him to come inside. They have a conversation. To this day, I don't know what was said, but he comes back out and he says, that was a fair question. Please don't say genitals anymore. I'm glad you guys think that's funny. So later on in life, I sort of lose some of my nerve and my confidence that I had as a kid. And I moved from my home state of Iowa, and I come down here to New Orleans working with Habitat for Humanity after Katrina. And I start to realize that maybe I am more attracted to people with the same genitals as me than the opposite. So my father I very much respect. And one of the hardest things I had to do was build up nerve to tell him this reality. And I sent one email without any response, and I sent another email with not much of a response. And then I thought to myself, I am an adult. I've fallen in love. This is something I need to say. So I sit down in Iowa after taking a flight because you yeah, I'd have to get there first. And I tell him the reality of the situation, which he does not respond well to, and I say things that I regret, like, you're so stupid. I don't know how you could be this naive to not understand that this is important to me and things flare up and I say, I love someone with the same genitals as me. You're going to have to get the fuck over it. And then silent falls upon the conversation and I realize that I have to build up the nerve to say I'm sorry in that moment and not sorry for who I am, but enough nerve to say I'm sorry for backing you into this corner and being mean. Because as right as I feel, I know that how I've acted is wrong. So after that silence, I told him that I knew he was scared, I knew it was a big unknowing for him, but this was important to me, things calmed down and he said, I love you. Please don't say genitals anymore.
Dan Kennedy
Love that story from Stevie Long asking what philosophers refer to as one of the big questions, I think, when she asks how do we know God has genitals? Stevie Long is originally from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and after years in New Orleans, recently moved to Washington State with her wife. Stevie's currently working on a master's in education. So there you go. Two stories from our Moth Story Slam series. You know how they work. And they're now in 21 different cities, so check out the schedule@the moth.org for one near you. Come on out and give it a try. Join us and a quick piece of news. The Moth is returning to London on April 13th. That show is going to be sponsored by Times plus for tickets and details on all of our upcoming tour shows, just Visit our site themoth.org Dan Kennedy.
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Stevie Long
He's a regular host and performer with the Moth when he's not on Twitter.
Dan Kennedy
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The Moth Podcast: Molly Cameron & Stevie Long – StorySLAM Favorites
Release Date: March 31, 2015
Introduction
In this episode of The Moth podcast, host Dan Kennedy presents two standout stories from their beloved StorySLAM series. StorySLAM events function as open mic nights where storytellers share personal narratives under various themes. This episode features Molly Cameron and Stevie Long, whose compelling stories explore the themes of fame and nerve, respectively. Both narratives offer deep insights into personal growth, societal expectations, and the complexities of human relationships.
Molly Cameron: The Quest for Fame [03:13 – 09:58]
Molly Cameron's Story Summary:
Molly Cameron recounts her experience with the pursuit of fame through her involvement with her best friend Andrea's band, Pretty and Nice. As an avid fan and friend, Molly becomes entangled in the band's creative process, believing that her participation in a photo shoot could catapult her into the limelight.
Key Points:
Discovery of the Romper: While rummaging through Andrea’s closet, Molly, under the influence of vodka, dons an eye-catching pink and white romper. Andrea, a passionate photographer, captures Molly's spontaneous antics mid-air, leading to a series of adventurous photographs. (03:50)
Excitement for the Photo Shoot: Two months later, the photos inspire Jeremy, the band’s lead singer, to propose using them as the cover art for their next album. Molly envisions this as her big break into fame, imagining scenarios akin to being featured in Rolling Stone or even landing a movie deal. (05:20)
The Reality of the Photo Shoot: Contrary to her glamorous expectations, the actual shoot in Brooklyn’s Greenpoint with photographer Brett turns out to be mundane and awkward. The setting shifts from her envisioned white studios to the quiet woods of Prospect Park, where Molly battles performance anxiety in her revealing romper amidst an unglamorous environment. (07:15)
Aftermath and Reflection: The final photos receive modest attention, contrasting sharply with Molly's initial high hopes. She reflects on the disconnect between her drunken inspiration and the reality of the professional shoot, questioning the pursuit of fame and its true value. (09:00)
Notable Quotes:
Dan Kennedy’s Commentary:
Dan reflects humorously on Molly’s story, noting the contrast between the indie rock aesthetic of the album cover and the awkwardness detailed in Molly’s narrative. He praises Molly’s storytelling for adding depth and humor to what initially appears as a cool album cover, highlighting the layers behind public personas. (09:58)
Stevie Long: Finding Nerve [10:56 – 16:39]
Stevie Long's Story Summary:
Stevie Long shares a poignant story from her childhood that intertwines themes of bravery, identity, and familial relationships. From an early age, Stevie grapples with understanding her own identity, leading to a defining moment of courage when she confronts her father about her sexuality.
Key Points:
Childhood Incident: At eight years old, during Catholic school programming, Stevie asks her teacher, "How do we know that God has genitals?" This bold question leads to her being escorted out of class, igniting a lasting impact on her confidence and relationship with her father. (11:30)
Impact on Self-Confidence: The incident causes Stevie to lose some of the self-assuredness she once had, influencing her later struggles with identity and acceptance. (13:00)
Moving to New Orleans: As an adult, Stevie relocates to New Orleans to work with Habitat for Humanity post-Katrina, where she embraces her true self and realizes her attraction to women. This self-discovery propels her to come out to her father, despite apprehensions. (14:45)
Confrontation with Her Father: Stevie's attempt to communicate her sexuality to her father is fraught with tension. Her initial approach is confrontational, leading to a heated exchange where she lashes out. Realizing her mistake, she musters the nerve to apologize sincerely, which ultimately strengthens her relationship with her father. (16:00)
Notable Quotes:
Dan Kennedy’s Commentary:
Dan appreciates Stevie’s story for its vulnerability and the universal struggle for acceptance and understanding within families. He draws parallels between Stevie’s childhood curiosity and her adult journey towards self-acceptance, highlighting the enduring impact of early experiences on personal development. (16:39)
Conclusion
This episode of The Moth podcast beautifully illustrates the intricate dance between personal aspirations and the harsh realities of life. Molly Cameron’s tale underscores the often-unpredictable nature of seeking fame, revealing how perceived opportunities can diverge significantly from reality. Meanwhile, Stevie Long’s heartfelt narrative delves into the courage required to embrace one’s true identity and the complexities of seeking acceptance from loved ones.
Both stories emphasize the importance of authenticity, resilience, and the profound effects of our interactions with others on our self-perception and life trajectories. Through engaging storytelling, Molly and Stevie invite listeners to reflect on their own experiences with fame, identity, and the nerve it takes to navigate both.
For those inspired to share their stories, The Moth encourages participation in their 21 StorySLAM events across various cities. Upcoming shows, including a return to London sponsored by Times Plus on April 13th, offer opportunities for storytellers to connect and share their unique narratives. To learn more or attend a StorySLAM, visit themoth.org.
Additional Information
Molly Cameron: A writer and performer from the woods of New Hampshire, currently based in Astoria, New York. Her work has been featured on This Recording and Flavor Wire, and she is writing a memoir about a time she broke eight bones.
Stevie Long: Originally from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Stevie moved to New Orleans and later to Washington State with her wife. She is pursuing a master's degree in education and is an active host and performer with The Moth.
Thank you for listening to The Moth podcast. We hope these stories inspire you to embark on your own journey of storytelling and connection.