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Dan Kennedy
Welcome to the Moth Podcast. I'm Dan Kennedy. This Sunday on November 5, more than 50,000 people are lacing up their shoes and stepping foot on Staten island in New York City to do something very few have run a marathon. I of course am just going to remain a downtown podcast loner. I won't be out, but the New York City Marathon is the most populous run in the world. Just half of 1% of the people in this country have ever even run a marathon at all. And if you're one of the faster runners, you can finish in just around four and a half hours Too slow, and they shut the run down. That is, unless the 26.2 mile run shuts your body down first. Here at the Moth, we never question the heart of a champion. So on today's episode, two stories all about running. Our first story comes to us from Steve Clark, and he told it at the Philadelphia Moth Grand Slam, where the theme of the night was siblings. Here's Steve.
Steve Clark
I've always wanted to live in a world where I was like, a Greek hero, but I'm from Philadelphia, and I've never had, like, the body type for it and sandwiches. But my twin brother has, like, he's felt and doesn't have asthma. Like, when we were in high school, he played varsity basketball, and I played varsity model United Nations. But he's always been really helpful about this, and I've always looked up to it. Looked up to him about it. Like, I think when we were sperm, like, there's no way I was gonna beat him to the egg. So I think I must have kind of latched onto one of his flagella and rode him to victory. He was totally cool with it. So we got to. We got older. And in college, my brother ran several marathons, and I was always so impressed by this. And his best marathon, he ran not knowing that he also had mono. And I can't even run a mile. And. Yeah. So last year I turned 31, and I was like, my time with this awkward body is running out. So I signed up for the Philadelphia Marathon in the summer. But I'm a Catholic school teacher, and I couldn't really afford it, so my mom paid for me. Still really inspiring. And, like, I put this on Facebook, and a lot of people were really like, steve, that's awesome. That's so cool. You're gonna be great. And people who really knew me were like, steve, are you sure? In the summer, I was training, and it was great. But then the school year started, and I teach sixth grade and to deal with stress sandwiches. And I'm not making excuses, but I have asthma. And the marathon day came in November, late November 2015. And I didn't know if I was going to be able to make it. But I started with one of my friends, and she said, you should have, like, a mantra. And hers was, my mind is strong, my body is strong, my heart is strong, and I'm Catholic. So I was like, dear God, please don't let me die. Amen. And so we started to race, and we're running, and it's going great for, like, a mile and a half. And at that point, I see this guy with a sign on his back that says two knee replacements, and he's passing me, But I get to mile six, and my brother comes out, and he joins me. He lives in Center City, and he comes out, he joins me, and he's got a coffee cup in his hand, and I'm running and he's walking. And after about three hours, we get to mile 13.1, and we pass Rocky for the first time. And he's like, do you want to keep going? And there's all these people that are really excited, and I'm like, yeah, I want to keep going. So I keep going. And then at mile 13.2, there's no one else with me. I am by myself. Everyone else was just finishing the half marathon, so I decided I'm going to keep going and do my best. And it's touch and go for a while. And at mile 17, I see this thing that's about a mile behind me, and I ask someone near me what it is, and they say, that's called the lag bus. If you don't know what that is. The lag bus picks people up who are not on pace to finish the marathon in under seven hours. So I keep moving, and I get to Manayunk, mile 19, and a guy offers me a beer, and I'm like, no, I'm dying. And so I keep moving, and, like, they're starting to break the water stations down. And at mile 21, I'm at the home stretch. I'm on Kelly Drive, going towards the art museum, and a guy on a tricycle pulls up next to me, and he says, steve, right? You are now officially the last person in the Philadelphia Marathon. And so I think about quitting, because there's five miles left, and I've got, like, 40 minutes to get to seven hours. And I go to the guy in the van and I say, I've got seven hours, right? And he says, yeah. So I just ask him for a bottle of water, and I keep moving, and I'm, like, yelling at him from the way that I'm moving. And I see the police at mile 23 and a half, and I ask them if they can pull him over. And at about mile 24 and a half, we hit seven hours, and a cleaning crew van pulls in front of me, and my heart just sinks. But the guy in the van behind me pulls up next to me, and he says, just keep going as fast as you can. I'll take care of them. And he holds them off behind me for about another 20 or 25 minutes. And I get to mile 26 and I see Rocky with his hands raised in the air. And I realize, like, he didn't have his hands raised in the air because he won. He had his hands raised in the air because he got his ass kicked. But somehow that was still awesome. So I keep moving and I get to mile 26.1. And right there the announcer says, ladies and gentlemen, we checked. This man did not veer off the course at all. Trust us. The last official finisher of the 2015 Philadelphia Marathon is Steve Clark and Mayor Nutter. Thank you. Thank you. Mayor Nutter comes out. He used to be mayor, and he greets me and he says, steve, I just wanted to stay here till the bitter end. And he kind of holds my back to make sure that I cross the line. And as I cross, I realize, like, I'm never going to be in a world where I'm a Greek hero. But in Philadelphia today, finishing in last place felt pretty darn heroic. Thank you.
Dan Kennedy
That was Steve Clark. Steve is a third grade teacher, storyteller, and high school slam poetry coach. He still loves to run and does it whenever he can. And he tells us the local running community has been really kind in their friendship and support of him. Currently, Steve's looking for suggestions for his next big race to run. Next up, a story from Megan McNally. Megan shared this at a Moth story slam in Seattle, and the theme of the night was Making Peace. Here's Megan live at the moth.
Megan McNally
I was 19 when I got pregnant and decided to give my baby up for adoption. And I was certain it was the right thing to do, or at least as certain as you can be. Yet no amount of certainty can really prepare you for the doubt. And I'm not entirely certain how I got through the first few days after leaving my baby daughter behind for some other mother. But one thing that helped was finding a lifeline that I could grab a hold of. And for me, that lifeline was her 18th birthday. Now, it doesn't make any sense because it's not rational, but I believed that if I survived to her 18th birthday and if she survived to her 18th birthday, that that would be the definitive proof that I had made the right decision. So 17 years went by, and some of them were really, really rough. I got through them by thinking about this finish line that I knew I had to reach. And in the year before she turned 18, I decided that I was going to have to do something epic to mark this occasion. I became obsessed With. With that. And I learned that the Paris Marathon is the same week as her birthday. So I registered and I trained for my first marathon. And a month before the race, I got sick. I got really sick. And then I threw my back out and I missed that final month of training, which, if any of you are runners, you know, is pretty important before a big race. And the morning I got on the plane to head to Paris with my partner and some of our closest friends, I had no idea if I was really going to run this thing. And the morning of the race, I had no idea if I was going to run this thing. But I told myself that I had come so far, I deserved to be at the start line. So I went to the start line, and it was the fucking Paris marathon. There are 35,000 runners pass packed along the Champs Elysees. Chariots of Fire is blaring from the loudspeakers. You're standing beneath the Arc de Triomphe. And I thought, of course I'm going to run. I'll just run as far as I can and then I'll stop. And I was so excited that I really had to pee. And there were no porta potties around. So I made the brilliant decision to hold it. And off went the cannon and off went the runners. And off I went, running my marathon ill prepared, having to pee. And I thought, I'll just stop when I see a porta potty. And there were no porta potties. So adrenaline got me through the first five miles. But then when I rounded the bend into the Bois de Vincennes, I knew that I was going to have to do something. I was going to have to solve this. And what I noticed is that runners were darting off into the bushes left and right. So praying that this epic day did not end in the back of a police car, I eyed what looked like a fairly private bush and I hooked a sharp right to head for this bush. And when I did, I stubbed my toe into the curb and I launched myself airborne. And I heard a collective gasp of the runners around me as I headed face first for pavement. I turned my head, literally just in time to avoid breaking all my teeth, and I landed on my temple and knocked myself out cold. Now, if you're wondering, when you knock yourself out cold, you relieve yourself. So that problem was solved. However, I came to, and I had a whole world of new problems, like how I was going to get up and finish this marathon. And I actually went in and out of consciousness several times and ultimately came to A race official who was barking at me in French and barking into a walkie talkie. And we were not communicating well. And it was clear that if I didn't get up and get moving, the day was actually going to end on a stretcher. So I got up and started moving, which is when I noticed how much pain I was in. My head was throbbing, my knees hurt, and there was the matter of my broken finger that was dangling off the back of my hand like a sausage. But when I slowed down, it hurt worse. So I kept going. And about 10 miles later, coming down a stretch where I was the only person in the road because I was clearly the back of the pack and there were just a handful of stragglers left in the crowd to chant allez allay, as the French will do. And I got to respond alive, alive, as an American will do when she is hoping that her friends will have ibuprofen ready. I paused just long enough for them to splint my finger, to try to tell them what happened, for them to pump me full of painkillers and send me on my way. There were a few stretches of the race that I ran alone because everyone else had finished. And the last mile of the race, I literally just lurched forward, forward. I was swollen. I was covered in a smattering of blood and urine. My partner and friends were walking beside me because that's how slow I was going. And I got to the finish line and they graciously, or out of pity, still gave me a medal, even though I had not met the cutoff. And the thing is that this day was not anything like I'd expected. It's not what I'd planned. It's not what I'd envisioned and dreamt of all those years. And yet it had perfectly reflected 18 years of staggering forward, broken, bloody, sometimes alone, but usually with people who loved me, not very far away. And a month later, I was home in Seattle, working late one night when a message came across my desktop that said, do you know who I am? And I did. And that night, I made peace with my younger, heartbroken self. Thank you.
Dan Kennedy
That was Megan McNally. Not long after finishing the marathon, Megan met her birth daughter through Facebook. And they've kept in touch since then. Since the marathon. Megan also wanted to test her newfound endurance and tenacity by squeezing in a half Ironman triathlon. Between law school and her job as a full time executive, she's now the founder and CEO of Diana, the first streaming network dedicated to women's sports and their mission to change the game for women and girls. Man, that is an amazing amount of accomplishment. I feel like I'm doing very little with my life after reading that. That does it for this week's episode. If you'd like to see pictures of Steve and Megan with their medals, just Visit our site, themoth.org Congratulations to both of you, Steve and Megan, and to the rest of you runners who are going to be there on Staten island this Sunday, we here at the Moth wish you all the best, good luck, see you at the finish line and have a story worthy week.
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The Moth Podcast: "On Your Mark, Get Set, Go"
Release Date: October 31, 2017
In the episode titled "On Your Mark, Get Set, Go," hosted by Dan Kennedy, listeners are immersed in the exhilarating and often grueling world of marathon running. Set against the backdrop of the New York City Marathon—a global event where over 50,000 participants converge—this episode presents two compelling true stories that explore themes of perseverance, personal struggle, and triumph.
Speaker: Steve Clark
Event: Philadelphia Marathon Grand Slam
Told At: [03:15]
Steve Clark, a third-grade teacher and high school slam poetry coach from Philadelphia, shares his inspiring journey of training for and completing the Philadelphia Marathon. Despite facing significant personal challenges, including asthma and financial constraints, Steve's determination leads him to participate in the marathon, a feat that few accomplish.
Key Highlights:
Sibling Inspiration:
Steve attributes much of his motivation to his twin brother, who not only excelled in sports but also ran several marathons despite battling mono. Steve reflects, “I think when we were sperm, like, there's no way I was gonna beat him to the egg. So I think I must have kind of latched onto one of his flagella and rode him to victory” (03:25).
Training Challenges:
Balancing his role as a sixth-grade teacher with marathon training proved difficult. Steve candidly shares the obstacles he faced: “I have asthma... the marathon day came in November, late November 2015. And I didn't know if I was going to be able to make it” (07:00).
Race Day Struggles:
On the day of the marathon, Steve confronts physical and mental barriers. Early optimism gives way to fatigue and doubts as he approaches mile 13.1, where he encounters a pivotal moment: “At mile 13.2, there's no one else with me. I am by myself... so I decided I'm going to keep going and do my best” (06:30).
Final Stretch Heroics:
Approaching the home stretch, Steve faces the grim reality of finishing last. A fellow runner’s encouragement propels him forward: “The guy in the van behind me pulls up next to me, and he says, just keep going as fast as you can. I'll take care of them” (07:50). Ultimately, Steve crosses the finish line as the last official finisher, greeted by Mayor Nutter, marking his achievement as heroic despite not being a "Greek hero."
Notable Quote:
“I'm never going to be in a world where I'm a Greek hero. But in Philadelphia today, finishing in last place felt pretty darn heroic.” – Steve Clark (08:50)
Aftermath:
Following the marathon, Steve receives overwhelming support from the local running community. His perseverance not only earns him a medal but also the respect and camaraderie of fellow runners. Currently, Steve is seeking his next big race, hinting at his ongoing passion for running.
Speaker: Megan McNally
Event: Paris Marathon
Told At: [10:30]
Megan McNally narrates her deeply personal and physically demanding experience running the Paris Marathon. At 19, Megan made the heart-wrenching decision to give birth and place her baby up for adoption. Driven by years of doubt and seeking closure, she embarked on a marathon as a metaphor for her journey towards making peace with her past.
Key Highlights:
Emotional Motivation:
Megan explains her long-term coping mechanism: “I believed that if I survived to her 18th birthday and if she survived to her 18th birthday, that would be the definitive proof that I had made the right decision” (10:45).
Training and Preparation:
Life circumstances—law school and executive responsibilities—interrupted her marathon training. Despite these setbacks, Megan commits to running the Paris Marathon, aligning the race date with her daughter's 18th birthday.
Race Day Challenges:
On the day of the marathon, Megan faces unexpected physical hurdles, including illness and a back injury. However, her determination leads her to the starting line: “I went to the start line, and it was the fucking Paris marathon... I just run as far as I can and then I'll stop” (12:15).
Critical Incident:
Struggling with the need to urinate and inadequate race infrastructure, Megan makes the risky decision to find a secluded spot to relieve herself. This leads to a severe fall, resulting in a concussion and a broken finger: “I launched myself airborne... I knocked myself out cold” (14:10).
Pushing Through Pain:
Despite her injuries, Megan's resolve drives her to continue. She describes the excruciating pain and the mental fortitude required to keep moving: “My head was throbbing, my knees hurt... but I kept going” (15:30).
Completion and Reflection:
Megan crosses the finish line battered but victorious, receiving her medal out of pity by those who witnessed her struggle. She reflects on the day's events, recognizing that while it wasn't what she envisioned, it mirrored her 18-year journey: “It had perfectly reflected 18 years of staggering forward, broken, bloody, sometimes alone, but usually with people who loved me, not very far away” (16:20).
Notable Quote:
“This day was not anything like I'd expected. It's not what I'd planned... and yet it had perfectly reflected 18 years of staggering forward, broken, bloody, sometimes alone, but usually with people who loved me, not very far away.” – Megan McNally (16:00)
Aftermath:
A month after the marathon, Megan reconnected with her birth daughter through Facebook, fostering a relationship that had been absent for years. Her resilience didn't stop at the marathon; Megan went on to complete a half Ironman triathlon and founded Diana, the first streaming network dedicated to women's sports. Balancing law school and her executive role, Megan’s achievements exemplify her unwavering determination and commitment to empowering women and girls in sports.
"On Your Mark, Get Set, Go" delves into the profound personal narratives of Steve Clark and Megan McNally, showcasing how marathon running becomes a vessel for overcoming personal adversities and seeking redemption. Through their stories, The Moth underscores the universal themes of resilience, the support of community, and the relentless pursuit of personal goals, regardless of the obstacles faced.
Final Reflections by Host Dan Kennedy: Dan commends both Steve and Megan for their remarkable accomplishments and encourages listeners to celebrate their own stories of perseverance. He extends congratulations and well wishes to all runners participating in upcoming marathons, encapsulating the episode's spirit of endurance and shared human experience.
This summary captures the essence of "On Your Mark, Get Set, Go," providing insights into the profound journeys of two individuals who transformed the challenge of marathon running into powerful narratives of personal growth and triumph.