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Roland Roccacelli
Thank you very much. Well, surprisingly, for somebody who works in the theatre as I do, and for so long, I don't believe in prizes for acting, although I was watching the Oscars the other night and I thought I wouldn't mind winning one of those. That could be quite interesting. I thought there's probably an Oscar for some actress in My mother Biria, my late mother Biria, because she was a truly remarkable woman, a woman before her time, and she was a great influence on my life along with several other women, but particularly Biria. She was born in 1911, and in 1916 she and my four aunts and my uncle were deemed by the Kalgoorlie Children's Court to be in moral danger, and they were taken away from their mother and the girls were sent to the Salvation army home in Cottesloe, and my uncle was sent to the Swan Boys home in Middle Swan, and my mother and her brother never met again, ever in their lives. It was an extraordinary time and she talked a lot about it and I think she was probably dysfunctional as a result of it. Certainly her parenting skills left something to be desired, but that's probably to be expected because she was in the home for 13 years, during which time no one ever hugged her, which I think is a really telling comment. There were a hundred girls and about six officers in the Salvation army home, and the officers wore white starched aprons with all for Jesus embroidered across the front. My mother told me a story about how she once was accused of breaking another girl's bottle of lavender water and she had to go and see the matron about it. And she said, until the day I die, I shall never forget Matron Robina Pratt. She called me a thief and a liar. There's a punishment. They locked me in the officer's bathroom for a week, except for School. I had a mattress on the floor and they bought my meals on a tray. She said, I didn't break that bottle of lavender water and I just hope the little bitch who did rots in hell. At the age of 18, 16, I beg pardon? 16, my mother was put into service and she was sent to a home just around the corner from the Salvation army. And it was Mrs. Smith in Cotter Street. My mother had it confused for years. She thought it was Mrs. Cotter in Smith street, but it wasn't. So we finally sorted that out. So she went to Mrs. Smith in Cotter street and Mrs. Smith's widowed brother in law lived there with her. He was about 30 and he worked on the wharf and he had two small children and he used to pay my mother a shilling a week if she would let him touch her. And years later she said, you know, it's funny, I had no idea what was going on. And to tell you the truth, I don't think he got his money's worth. So she did have this extraordinary sense of humor which really carried her through her life. We had a very rocky relationship. My mother had four marriages. Three marriages, four children. And it was a very rocky relationship. And my childhood was blighted by domestic violence, all sorts of things which are in fact recorded in the book and be home before dark. But eventually my mother came to live with me and for 10 years I was her carer here in Melbourne. And I was showering her one morning and she said to me, what's this? And I said, oh, darling, that looks like a hernia. She said, oh, really? I said, yes, we should go to the doctor tomorrow and we'll have a look at that. So I went to the doctor, we took her to the doctor and he touched her liver and she went, ah. And he said, roland, I think this is more serious than we might suspect. She needs to see an oncologist. So I said, okay, well, Bob Miller's a friend of mine. We'll ring him, make an appointment, we'll take her there tomorrow. So we went on the Wednesday. On the Wednesday night, he phoned me at about 8:00 to say, roland, I. I wanted to find out what this is because I think it's serious and I think I've just. The results have just come back. It is indeed cancer. She has. She has liver cancer and secondary bowel cancer. She has six months, maybe three at the most. But I said, okay, well, where do we go from here? And I talked gibberish for a bit and he Said, look, don't worry, I'll ring you tomorrow morning at 8:00. So indeed, next morning he rang me. I have no recollection of what happened between him hanging up and 8 o'clock the next morning, but he called the next morning to say that everything was in place, the palliative care nurses were on their way and that everything would be taken care of. And suddenly Birria's cancer developed this whole life of its own and it took over and it had a momentum that was impossible to stop. And I thought it was 17 weeks before she died. And it was an extraordinary time. For 17 weeks I didn't go to bed. I slept on a couch in her sitting room, because she had a sitting room, bedroom and dressing room and a bathroom and loo at the back of the house. And eventually we had to put her on the dexmethasone, which is the drug and of course the morphine, which is what they use. And the dexmethasone kicks in and of course it renders patients immobile. The fabric of the strength of the muscle disappears and of course they start to shuffle and they find it difficult to work. And Birya said to me, after three or four weeks of this, she said, why can't I walk? And I said, well, darling, it's the drugs you're taking. She said, well, do I need them? And I said, yes, you do. She said, am I ill? And I said, yes, very. She said, well, what's wrong? And I said, well, as they told me to say, darling, you have cancer. She said, what? I said, cancer? She said, are you sure? And I said, yes. She said, well, I don't believe you. I'm 95. Why would it take so long to come? And that was the end of the conversation about the cancer. Then I heard her talking with her doctor and Bruce had come to see her and she said, am I ill? And he said, yes, you are. And she said, can you do anything for me? And he said, no, I'm sorry. She said, so I'm going to die, am I? He said, yes, I'm afraid you are. She said, so it's only really a matter of time. Yes, it is. So a couple of days later I was showering her and again was drying her and she said goodbye. And I said, goodbye, you going for a walk or something? She said, I wish I could. She said, no, I'll be 96 in about two weeks and after that I'm going to fly away. I said, oh, well, we'll wait and see, darling. Well, on The Thursday of the. Before the Friday, on the Friday morning when she died, I was turning her in the bed and it had been a very difficult time. She was at the stage now where she was calling out all through the night, you know, water, water. And it was. It was a very. It was a very. A very disturbing time for me because I became, unfortunately, I became the. The pain in her life. And whenever I touched her, there was a terrible always. And. And she hadn't spoken much. But on the Thursday afternoon at about 3:00, I made her comfortable in the bed. And she opened these extraordinarily piercing cornflower blue eyes and said, thank you. And those were the last words she ever spoke. So she closed her eyes. By about 6:00 that evening, the breathing was becoming labored and difficult. And so I rang the hospital and they said, don't worry, Roland, it's nothing to be concerned about. It's much worse for you than it is for her. Just give her another morphine shot and she'll be fine. So throughout the night I gave her morphine shots. And the following morning at 6:00, when I went to rouse her, she was clearly semi conscious. So I called the palliative care nurses, immediately said, we're on our way. So they came and they have this wonderful routine that they deal with you first, then they deal with the patient. They sat me down and said, roland, this is it, Birya. This is the final stretch. I imagine Birria will be gone by the end of today. And I'm not sure that I really believe them, but so I accepted that. And they prepared her and they put her on the morphine drip. And I rang the priest and I rang her doctor. And so the doctor came at 10 o'clock and he said, she'll be gone by the end of the day. And then. So he went and I sat with her. I put Oscar, her dog, on the bed because she loved Oscar. We have four dogs. And so Oscar got on the bed with her, and at one second to eleven, she was alive. And at one second past eleven, she was gone. There was this imperceptible movement of her head. And suddenly the life force was gone. And Birria was no more, except in my heart. And the priest was about to arrive, and he arrived at about two minutes past 11. And I said, she's already dead. He said, how long ago? And I said, oh, two minutes. And he said, well, as far as I'm concerned, she's still alive because a Catholic priest is not allowed to Give the final rights to a dead person only to the living. So he came in and he gave Biry the last rites. And Oscar was on the bed. And Oscar was licking her hands. Trying to wake her up. At was quite an interesting thing. And I'd already put the other dogs on the bed. Because the vet said, you must let the other three dogs smell her as well. So that they know what's happened. And as the priest went to anoint her with the holy oil. Oscar actually flew at him. Now he's a little old dog about 11 years of age. Who never does anything. So the priest finished what he was doing, and then he went. And then I sat there with her. But there was just still one thing I had to do. Because Biria had said to me some months before. She said, I don't care if you have to break my jaw. But I don't want to die with my mouth open. So I got this huge scarf that we'd all organized. It was an aqua organza scarf that she had. And I tied it around and tied this huge bow on her head. And I said to Abiria, if you could see what you look like, you just look hysterical. So I sat there talking with her for a little while. And it was one of those crisp, clear, autumnal mornings in Melbourne. And it was absolutely silent except for the birds in the bird bath outside the Birria's bedroom door. Which opened out into the garden. And I sat there saying my final farewells. And it finally occurred to me that I was sitting there. I was now an orphan. My father was dead. And, of course, now Birria was gone. And there was nobody else in the world. And I'm not a great believer in epiphanies and those seminal moments. I think we sort of career through our lives doing what we can and making the best of it. But I suddenly thought, this is extraordinary. This was a woman who wanted to live to be a hundred. Because she wanted to get the telegram from the Queen. So she could give me something that only she could give to me. So I sat there and I thought about this. And we chatted away. And she was lying there. And I rang the undertakers. And they said they'd come and pick her up. And I said, no, no, it's fine. Can we leave it until tomorrow when you can come tomorrow? They said, whatever you like. And the truth was that I was absolutely terrified that she wasn't dead. And that I might send her to the crematorium and still be alive. But curiously, when I talked to my doctor about it. He said it's not unusual. He said, some people try and cover their par with a blanket because they feel the warmth of the body leaving and they try and warm them up again. They say, oh, Mum or Dad's cold, can I have a blanket? So I sat there with Birria. It actually occurred to me that after wanting to be 100, I thought, is that really too much? Is that really more than she should have asked for? And it occurred to me that I actually made the decision that I really don't give a fat rat's clacker what anyone thinks about me anymore because Birria brought me in and I took her out. And I think that taking someone to their death is probably the most intimate thing you can do. And after that you can never be ordinary again. Thank you very much.
Dan Kennedy
Roland Roccoelli started in the theater in 1966. His childhood memoir and Be Home Before Dark, A Childhood on the Edge of Nowhere, was published in the US in March. Set in the gold fields of the 1950s, it was a time and place the like of which Australia will never know again. This podcast is brought to you by Audible.com, the Internet's leading provider of audiobooks with more than 75,000 downloadable titles across all types of literature, including fiction, nonfiction and periodicals. For a free audiobook of your choice, go to audible.com themoth hi, this is.
Jay Allison
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Podcast Summary: The Moth - "Roland Rocchiccioli: Extraordinary Mother"
Introduction In the poignant episode titled "Extraordinary Mother," Roland Rocchiccioli shares an intimate and heart-wrenching account of his relationship with his late mother, Biria. Recorded live at The Moth main stage during the 2009 Perth Writers Festival, Roland's narrative delves deep into themes of family, resilience, and the profound impact of caregiving.
Biria's Early Life and Challenges Roland begins by reflecting on his mother's formidable spirit, describing Biria as "a truly remarkable woman, a woman before her time" (03:50). Born in 1911, Biria's early years were tumultuous. In 1916, she, along with her siblings, was removed from her mother by the Kalgoorlie Children's Court, deemed to be in "moral danger" (04:10). Biria spent 13 years in the Salvation Army home in Cottesloe, a period that left her emotionally scarred. Roland recounts a defining moment when Biria was wrongfully accused of breaking a bottle of lavender water, leading to her being harshly punished and labeled a "thief and a liar" by Matron Robina Pratt (05:00).
Biria's Adulthood and Personal Struggles As an adult, Biria's life was marked by instability and hardship. At 16, she was sent to live with Mrs. Smith in Cotter Street, where she endured exploitation from her widowed brother-in-law, who offered her a shilling a week for intimacy—an experience she later described humorously, though it underscored the abuse she faced (07:30). Biria's personal life was further complicated by four marriages and four children, leading to a "very rocky relationship" and a childhood overshadowed by domestic violence (09:00).
Roland's Role as Caretaker Transitioning from his childhood memories, Roland shares his decade-long role as Biria's primary caregiver in Melbourne. Their relationship was complex, shaped by years of familial strife and Biria's unpredictable behavior. Despite the challenges, Roland's dedication never wavered, even as Biria's health began to decline. The narrative reaches a critical juncture when Biria is diagnosed with liver and secondary bowel cancer, a revelation that propels Roland into the depths of caregiving under harrowing circumstances (11:00).
Biria's Illness and Death Over the ensuing 17 weeks, Roland details the relentless progression of Biria's illness. He describes the physical and emotional toll of administering medications like dexmethasone and morphine, which left Biria immobile and in constant pain. A particularly moving moment occurs when Biria, at 95, questions her diagnosis with raw honesty: "I don't believe you. I'm 95. Why would it take so long to come?" (13:30). As Biria's condition worsens, Roland's nightly vigil becomes a testament to his unwavering commitment. The climax of his story unfolds on the morning of Biria's passing, poignantly capturing the final moments of her life and the bittersweet farewell Roland must face (14:45).
Reflection and Conclusion In the aftermath of Biria's death, Roland reflects on the profound impact of his experience. He contemplates the legacy of Biria's desire to live to a hundred, humorously hoping to receive "the telegram from the Queen," and how her passing leaves him feeling like an orphan. The act of guiding someone to the end of their life, Roland muses, is "probably the most intimate thing you can do," forever altering one's perception of normalcy and personal strength (15:00). His concluding thoughts resonate deeply, emphasizing the enduring bond between caregiver and loved one, and the transformative power of love and duty.
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Conclusion Roland Rocchiccioli's "Extraordinary Mother" is a heartrending exploration of familial bonds, loss, and the complexities of caregiving. Through his candid storytelling, he invites listeners into the intimate moments that define the human experience, leaving a lasting impression of love, resilience, and the indelible mark left by those we hold dear.
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