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Dane Wilburn
Welcome to the Moth Podcast. I'm your host, Dane Wilburn. As graduation rolls around and the academic school year comes to an end, we're thinking about the lessons you learn in school outside of the classroom. When I went to high school, I got caught in that middle period between neon colored clothes and Jheri curls. And I gotta tell you, I did not show up for my first day looking my best. But by the end of high school, I'd also managed to take that hairdo into the pool and lost most of my hair to chlorine damage. And that's when I figured out that short hair could actually be a personality trait. We have two stories for you this week. First up, Joanna Courteau. Joanna told this story at a Grand Slam in ann Arbor in 2017. Here's Joanna.
Joanna Courteau
Hi. You can tell by my hat that I'm very bashful. And this is a story of how bashful I really am. And you cannot imagine the amount of courage it took. But my bashfulness was especially noticeable when I was in middle school and in high school. And in middle school, I was so bashful that I would do anything to avoid talking to other people. I would hide. I would cross the street. I would hide under the bed anywhere, anytime. And I would actually Snarl. I was awful. I wasn't nice at all. I was mean. And so. But this all came to an end one day. Well, what I must explain to you is I grew up in Brazil, where it's really difficult not to be part of a group. So all my neighbor kids were part of a group. All my classmates were part of a group. Everybody but me. And no matter how much they tried to get me, draw me out, I drew in. But this one day, we were all invited. My class was to a military academy. We were going to be told how wonderful military life is. But I guess no one believed it because no one came out to talk to us. And we were standing there in a hallway doing nothing and just getting in trouble, as you well might imagine. Teachers had no control of us. We were wild. Except for me. I was hiding into the wall. Finally, this impressive gentleman emerged from one of the doors. And he had 100 stars. And he was very scary looking and very severe. And he just screamed at us and he said, you guys better behave or else. And I thought of or else. What does it mean? The Gulag Archipelago. I was just reading the House of Dead by Dostoyevsky. I was so afraid, I thought, I better leave that place before the military police get me. So I just walked right out of the building. And guess what? That's all I remember of that story. And the rest of what I tell you is what other people have told me. So apparently I walked right into the path of a car. I was hit by the car so hard that I flew 40ft in the air. My head landed on the side of the curb, and from what they told me later, it cracked like a watermelon. And the doctors in the ER said, well, you know, her brain injuries are too severe. There's no way we can get her cured. So let's just clean her up, bandage her up, put her in a room for her family and friends to visit her. Well, I mean, like family, okay, but what friends? I didn't have any friends, and I didn't want any friends. But anyway, unbeknownst to me, all those kids whom I left facing the Gulag archipelago came to visit me every day after school. And they milled around my room. They tickled me, they talked to me because they couldn't tell the difference. I was as unresponsive as ever. And so they milled around every day until it was time to go home. Then on the third or fourth day of the coma, you know, kids are in my room, they're milling around, and one of the kids come. They were sitting on my bed in Tiklimi, and one of the kids tickles me under the chin and says, oh, you are not in a coma. You are just pretending. And I bolted right up and I said, I, too, am in a coma. I am not pretending. And so, you know, the kids told me everything that happened, all the details of the accident and how they weren't really worried because although my head cracked like a watermelon, my brains didn't come out. So they figured I was okay. And they just, you know, we had such a wonderful love feast there. I was surrounded by these friends I never wanted, but now I love them. It was really amazing. Two months later, I went back to school. And I could say I went back to school to resume my normal life. But my normal life, remember, was unsocial, loner. And now I had become a groupie. And not only a groupie, but. But a groupie with a passion and with cause. I was involved in everything. I tried to save the world then and have done so ever since. And I can only echo Margaret Mead when I say when I express my gratitude to the bunch of determined kids who not only saved my life, but also changed my world.
Dane Wilburn
Thank you.
Joanna Courteau
Thank you, thank you.
Dane Wilburn
That was Joanna Corto. Her almost fatal car accident transformed her into a groupie and a social activist. You can check out some photos of Joanna in the extras for this episode on our website. When I was in middle school, we ended up having a basketball team. And I went to an artsy school. And the idea was to make us more social because There was only 200 of us in the whole school and about 10 of us in the high school. And I ended up playing basketball, but mostly because I wanted to impress my mother, because I have no athletic skill. Like, the things you need for basketball are running and dribbling and being able to breathe while you're running and, you know, caring. And I had none of that. And I ended up deciding that the only thing I was really good at was, like, enforcement and being dangerous. So I pretty much just attacked any girl that came into the paint. Pretty much got the name Enforcer. And then my stats for the end of the year was 2 total points, 6 technical fouls, and 32 fouls. And I stand by that record. Up next, we have Gabe Mollica. Gabe told this story at a New York City story slam where the theme of the night was music. Here's Gabe.
Gabe Mollica
When I was a little kid, I would sometimes go to the varsity football games in my town. And I would watch the football team play and I would think maybe one day that could be me representing my town in front of the fans, scoring a touchdown and hearing the Garden City High School fight song. And then it would repeat. And by the time I got to middle school, I had a whole plan. It was flawless logic. 1 1, if I joined the football team, football would make me cool. And the second part was I was a fat kid. And so joining the football team would make me thin. And that combination of cool and thin would get me a girlfriend and I would have no problems for the rest of my life. And the first day of practice happens and it turns out the football equipment, there's a lot of it. There are thigh pads and knee pads and hip pads and a butt pad and a cup and. And a thing that holds it together called the girdle and a rope belt. And none of this I knew. And so I got to football practice and I just shoved it all in there and tied the belt. And I ran out and I would go into my three point stance and my pads were falling out of my pants and my ass was hanging out and they started to laugh at me. And in that moment I thought, this is not how you become cool. And I hate this workout. This is not how I'm going to become thin. Do I even really need a girlfriend? And I quit. And this stayed with me. I was a quitter. Now I was somebody who wasn't tough enough, wasn't man enough, wasn't something enough. And when JV football tryouts came two years later, I was ready. I trained all summer. I found what are the requirements to play JV football? You have to run a mile in nine minutes. I got it down to eight. You have to be able to bench press your body weight. I was 185 pounds. I could do 130, but I tried. And you have to do a certain number of push ups and a certain number of sit ups. And I remember training all summer. I gave up soda in between commercial breaks of Whose Line Is It Anyway? I would do push ups and sit ups to be more fit than Drew Carey. And I'm ready to have a new leaf. In high school, being thin and cool and having a girlfriend. And the second day of practice we're doing bear crawls and I'm not prepared for this. I didn't train for this. And I rip off my helmet and I'm throwing up and they're laughing at me again. And the next day I quit and I can't do It. And so now this weight is on me that I quit things, that I'm not good enough. And two weeks later, high school starts, ninth grade. And I. I start getting sick from school so I can go home and I can't do any homework. And I'm just sad all the time. I'm not depressed, I'm just sad. And in my lowest point, I tell my mom, mom, I just wish we could all be in heaven. Because I didn't have the words to say, mom, I'm sad. And of course, she took me to a therapist. And that didn't really work. And nothing was working Until I met Mr. Ludwig, the choir director. And that year, for whatever reason, thank God, they needed one freshman boy to join the tenor section of the chamber choir, the varsity choir. And that year, that was me. And suddenly I had friends who were cool and wanted to make music and they had cars and they invited me places and they didn't care that I had quit football. And the chamber choir led to the vocal jazz and the vocal jazz led to the fall plays and the fall plays led to the spring musicals where two years later I was cast as Conrad Bertie. And I lost weight so I could fit into my gold lame pants. And that night at the cast party, I had my first kiss and I was on top of the world. And I didn't realize how much I had changed, how much I had grown from that quitter, from that kid who wasn't enough. Until the fall of my senior year of high school when the Garden City Trojans went undefeated and played in the Long island championship game. And I was there in uniform with the rest of the trumpets and the marching band, finishing every touchdown with thank you.
Dane Wilburn
That was Gabe Mollica. Gabe went on to major in music at Hamilton College and volunteer with the Pride of Westmoreland Marching Band for two state championship winning seasons. He now performs stand up and stories all over New York. His first one man show, Gabe Mullica. The whole thing has run at the Magnet Theater and soon the Edinburgh French Festival. To see a photo of Gabe in the high school band, head to our website, themoth.org that's our show. Thank you for listening. And on behalf of the Moth, have a storyworthy week. Dame Wilburn is a longtime storyteller and.
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Episode Overview: Released on May 24, 2019, "School's Out!" is an episode of The Moth podcast hosted by Dane Wilburn. This episode delves into transformative school experiences through two compelling stories by Joanna Courteau and Gabe Mollica. Both narrators share personal journeys of overcoming social challenges and finding their paths during their school years.
Dane Wilburn sets the stage by reflecting on the end of the academic year and the invaluable lessons learned outside the classroom. He shares his own high school experiences humorously, highlighting his struggle with the popular middle school hair trends:
"I got caught in that middle period between neon colored clothes and Jheri curls... by the end of high school, I'd also managed to take that hairdo into the pool and lost most of my hair to chlorine damage." ([01:31])
Wilburn introduces the two storytellers, promising engaging narratives that explore significant personal growth during school years.
Joanna Courteau recounts her intense bashfulness during middle and high school and a near-fatal accident that became a turning point in her social life.
Key Themes:
Shyness and Isolation: Joanna describes her extreme reluctance to engage with peers, often hiding or avoiding conversations to the point of being mean.
Life-Altering Accident: During a school visit to a military academy, Joanna, overwhelmed by fear influenced by her reading, inadvertently steps into traffic, resulting in a severe car accident. She narrates:
"I was hit by the car so hard that I flew 40ft in the air... my head landed on the side of the curb, and from what they told me later, it cracked like a watermelon." ([04:15])
Unanticipated Friendship and Recovery: Contrary to her expectations of isolation post-accident, Joanna wakes from her coma to find her previously distant peers consistently visiting her. They support her through her recovery, leading to unexpected friendships:
"Unbeknownst to me, all those kids whom I left facing the Gulag archipelago came to visit me every day after school... I love them. It was really amazing." ([07:00])
Transformation into a Social Activist: The support from her peers inspires Joanna to embrace social interactions and become an active group member committed to positive change:
"I had become a groupie with a passion and with cause. I was involved in everything. I tried to save the world then and have done so ever since." ([08:10])
Notable Quote:
"You cannot imagine the amount of courage it took." ([02:35]) – Joanna emphasizes the immense bravery required to overcome her deep-seated bashfulness.
Impact: Joanna's story illustrates how a life-threatening experience can catalyze profound personal growth and social integration. Her journey from isolation to active participation serves as an inspiring testament to resilience and the unexpected ways support can emerge during recovery.
After Joanna's heartfelt narrative, Dane Wilburn shares a personal anecdote from his middle school days involving his short stint on a basketball team:
"I pretty much just attacked any girl that came into the paint... I ended up deciding that the only thing I was really good at was, like, enforcement and being dangerous." ([08:36])
Wilburn uses humor to reflect on his attempts to fit in and the challenges of balancing personal interests with social expectations.
Gabe Mollica offers a poignant account of his high school years marked by failed attempts to join the football team, leading to feelings of inadequacy, and ultimately finding solace and identity in the choir.
Key Themes:
Desire for Acceptance: Gabe's initial motivation to join the football team stems from a desire to be cool, lose weight, and attract a girlfriend:
"If I joined the football team, football would make me cool... I was a fat kid... this combination would get me a girlfriend." ([10:35])
Repeated Failures and Self-Doubt: His first and second attempts at joining football end in humiliation and quitting, reinforcing his belief that he’s a quitter:
"In high school, being thin and cool and having a girlfriend... this is not how you become cool." ([10:55])
Struggling with Sadness: Gabe describes his emotional decline, feeling constantly sad and unsupported:
"I'm not depressed, I'm just sad. And in my lowest point, I tell my mom, mom, I just wish we could all be in heaven." ([13:20])
Redemption through Choir: The pivotal moment arrives when Gabe joins the chamber choir, leading to meaningful friendships and newfound confidence:
"Suddenly I had friends who were cool and wanted to make music and they had cars and they invited me places... I was cast as Conrad Bertie." ([13:45])
Achievement and Recognition: His involvement in the choir and subsequent activities culminate in significant accomplishments, including performing in musicals and supporting championship-winning bands:
"I lost weight so I could fit into my gold lame pants. And that night at the cast party, I had my first kiss and I was on top of the world." ([14:10])
Notable Quote:
"Do I even really need a girlfriend?" ([11:15]) – Gabe questions the underlying motivations behind his initial pursuit of joining the football team.
Impact: Gabe's story highlights the struggles of adolescence, particularly the pressures to conform and the impact of repeated failures on self-esteem. His eventual discovery of passion in music underscores the importance of finding one's true interests and the positive influence of supportive mentors and communities.
Dane Wilburn wraps up the episode by highlighting the transformative power of school experiences and expressing gratitude towards the storytellers. He provides additional context on Joanna and Gabe’s lives post-graduation, emphasizing their continued growth and achievements.
Joanna Courteau's resilience turned her into a passionate social activist, while Gabe Mollica channeled his initial disappointments into a thriving career in music and storytelling. Both stories serve as powerful reminders of how adversity and unexpected friendships during school years can shape one's identity and future.
Final Thoughts: "School's Out!" is a testament to the enduring impact of our formative years and the unexpected paths to self-discovery and fulfillment. Through Joanna and Gabe's narratives, listeners are invited to reflect on their own school experiences and the pivotal moments that defined their journeys.
Additional Resources:
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