
On this episode, three stories from our 2016 Battle of the SLAMs winner: Denver. Featuring stories from three local storytellers: Andrew Orvedhal, Madeleine Berenson, and Harry Fleenor. A comic gets his big break; a girl pulls a delicious prank; and a ...
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Kevin Carlin
Denver Denver Moth. Denver Moth.
Andrew Overdahl
You guys did it.
Kevin Carlin
We won the 2016 Battle of Slams. Congratulations.
Betsy Lamberson
Welcome to the Moth Podcast. I'm Ben. Hi, I'm Betsy Lamberson, the Moth Denver Story Slam producer.
Kevin Carlin
And I'm Kevin Carlin, host of Denver Story Slams.
Betsy Lamberson
This time last year, we had our first ever Moth Battle of the Slams, a friendly competition between all the local Slam cities around the country to see which city would be crowned our fundraising champ and help the Moth flame keep burning, because we slammers love a good competition. So today, Kevin and I are excited to share three stories on the podcast, each from a Denver Story Slam or Grand Slam.
Kevin Carlin
Our first story comes from Andrew Overdahl. One of the great things about the Moth Story Slams is that every show we have at least a couple people who are doing it for the first time ever. They've never told a story before and it's in front of a crowd of 300 people. Like, that's a big crowd for your first time. It's scary, but it's also super rewarding because it's such a great crowd. I mean, that's the crowd to try it in front of because you can do no wrong in front of them. They're so supportive. So Andrew's story, I love this one because it sort of speaks to that rush of stuff, stage fright that we're all familiar with. Andrew shared this story at our inaugural Slam, where the theme of the night was of course. Firsts here is Andrew Overdahl.
Madeline Berenson
In April of this year, I got an email through my personal website from a guy who said that he booked the Tonight show in New York City. And he asked me if I wanted to make my stand up comedy debut on the Tonight Show. And I immediately thought, this is a cool prank. There's no way that this is a real thing. And I asked my manager at the time, I was like, is this a real guy? Is this like a real thing? And he's like, yeah, of course it is. Like, how stupid could you possibly be? Yeah, respond to him. So I responded to the guy, and over the course of months, I had to keep sending him tapes of me doing comedy. We whittled the set together, and then I just waited around and I was like, I guess he didn't really like what he heard. And then last Thursday when I woke up, I got a phone call first thing in the morning from a New York area code, and it was that guy from the Tonight Show. And he was like, hey, this Monday, do you want to come to New York City and tape the Tonight Show? And I was like, what? I just woke up. I think I'm still dreaming. Like, what's happening? I'm going to fall down the stairs. Like, I don't know what's happening. I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And so right then, they flew me to New York City, like, that Sunday, and they were like, you have to practice your jokes on Sunday in New York City. You need to go out and you need to rehearse your jokes. So I went out to different comedy clubs and I practiced my jokes. And at the last comedy club, the last show I did, they didn't like any of my jokes. They liked the comedians before me and they liked the comedians after me. They didn't like me at all. So I just ate it. And that's how I got pumped up. To do a Tonight show taping is just eating it and feeling terrible about every joke and then went back to the hotel and I was like, oh, I think I'm making a terrible mistake. And I went to sleep, and the next morning I woke up and it was time to tape. And I've never been skydiving, and I never want to go skydiving, and hopefully I never will unless someone drugs me and tricks me into doing it, which I don't think you can do, but. But I feel like the nerves I had to this day were probably akin to skydiving. I was worthless. I couldn't eat any food I couldn't have a conversation with someone because, like, halfway through the conversation, I would just sort of, like, fade off and just, like, mentally picture myself, like, tripping on stage in front of all these people watching me on tv. I was like, garbage. And then it was time to go to the studio and actually record it. It was at 30 Rock, which I've seen on the show 30 Rock. And I was like, oh, I know this place. I've seen it so many times. I was like, wait, I've never been here before. I just think that I know it. I've never actually set foot in here. And so it's time to get ready. They, like. They put me in the makeup tray. They put so much makeup on me. I look like a replicant from Blade Runner or something. And then a hairdresser came in, and she was like. She looked over my hair, and she's like, do you want some coverage? And I was like, I don't know what that means. What does that mean? And she's like, well, we have, like, a spray fiber that we would, like, put on certain areas. She's trying to be as delicate as possible. I'm like, oh, yeah, for the bald parts of my head. And I was like. And ultimately, I said, no. I was like, no, I guess not. Cause, like, I can't be on TV with, like, a lush head of hair and then a week later be in a comedy club. And they're like, oh, he got so sick after that appearance. Something horrible had happened. So then I'm all done up, and then I just have to, like, wait. And this is, like the plane climbing altitude, basically. I'm just, like, pacing, and I'm like, my life is gonna be different after this. Like, my life is not gonna be the same after this. I'm just like, that's, like, the thought of my head. I'm like, my life is gonna be different after this. And then they come and they're like, it's you. It's your turn. Come back here. And they take me back behind the curtain, and it's all dark, and I'm like, holy, we're at altitude. I have my parachute on and my goggles and everything. There's a big guy, and he's holding the curtain, and he goes, 20 seconds. And he says it in a voice like a Special Forces soldier or something. Just like, 20 seconds. It's like the door of the plane just opened, and the wind is, like, rushing in. It's time to jump out. I'm like, I don't know. If I can do this. And then they introduce me, they open the curtain and I have to walk out there. And I realize in hindsight that the director of the show has positioned himself right behind me. And there's a big part of me that thinks he would have pushed me if I didn't go right out. Like, he would have been like, you're going out. You're not going to hide behind the curtain. So I go out and I go out and I find my mark. And I may as well have just fallen out of a plane, the way that I'm approaching this mark. The mark is a brass three leaf clover inlaid into the floor. You're not supposed to step on it. You're supposed to stand one foot to the left, which I'm trying to gauge a foot as I'm walking up. Like, how big is a foot? I don't know. Picture a hot dog next to this clover. Don't fuck this up. And then I start, and I start speaking and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm talking, I'm doing it. And I'm still alive and this is happening. But the problem is, I am terrified. There are parts of my body that are no longer responding. My microphone hand is locked up like this. It's like it's done moving. All the joints have fused together and it's done. And at one point, I reach over with my free hand and I'm trying to manually, like, winch it down, like, relax, mannequin. What's happening? Also, from time to time, with my free hand, I'll reach over and just gently touch the tip of the microphone as if to just reassure myself that I'm holding a microphone. I don't know. But here's the weird thing. The crowd is really enjoying it. They're clapping like they're at a magic show and they've never heard sentences before. It's ridiculous. They're, like, devaluing the currency of the applause break for me. It's amazing. And then it's over just as fast as it started. It's over like, oh, my God, I'm on the ground, the parachute's laying around me. I pee everywhere, almost. I would have peed if I had jumped off a plane. And then I'm back in Denver and it is over just like that. Like a whirlwind. And then I've been recognized one time from being on TV since then. I was at Target five minutes before closing, buying a broom and four boxes of macaroni and cheese. And an employee walked by me. And she's like, hey, you did a great job on the TV the other night. And I just started laughing and I was like, I guess my life is different. Thanks everybody.
Betsy Lamberson
That was Andrew Overdahl. Andrew is a stand up comic writer and actor based out of Denver, Colorado. He created the hit storytelling show the Narrators and you can see him on his show those who can't on TruTV. For more information on Andrew and his endeavors, visit fiveunicorns. Com. Madeleine Berenson is our second storyteller today. Madeline's a regular at the Slams and she won the night with this story. The theme of the night was busted, and there's something about the way she tells the story that makes me just want to curl up with a cup of hot cocoa and a blanket and listen to a bedtime story. Here's Madeleine Berenson live at the mall.
Andrew Overdahl
I grew up in such a big family that the kids in my family were divided into two major groups, the big kids and the little kids. And I'm the second oldest, so I was one of the big kids. And I was actually quite proud of that because it was much cooler to be a big kid than a little kid. We big kids were innovators and leaders and we did super cool things like sports, spy on neighbors, and cheat at Monopoly, whereas the little kids mostly just sat around eating paste and shitting themselves. So much more cache in the big kid group. One of our favorite activities as big kids was scaring the little kids. I'm not really sure why we liked doing it as much as we did, but we did it a lot and we were actually quite, quite good at it. I was probably the best at it, and I'm proud of that. And I'm actually better at scaring little kids. I'm still really good at it. Actually. I'm better at scaring little kids than I even knew that I was. Case in point, 1967, when I was eight years old, my brother Peter, who was six years old and also a big kid, and I were exploring some dark, unnavigated corner in our basement and we came across this box. And in the box were these two horrifying masks that we had never seen before. One of a witch and one of a werewolf. And they were so realistic. They weren't grotesquely exaggerated and comical like Halloween masks. They looked real. They looked like a real witch and a real werewolf. And as we held these things in our hands and felt the weight and import of them, we both simultaneously had the exact same idea, which Was these would be awesome for scaring the little kids. And as we let that feeling kind of wash over us, we realized that if we were strategic and smart about it, we could reach new ground. We could go beyond scaring and actually downright terrify the little kids. And so that was our goal. And we set about. I was actually the leader. I know it's bragging, but I was the leader in this. And we set about the next three days. We took three days to put this plan together because we didn't want to do something ordinary and waste the potential of these masks. So we didn't want to just put them on, like wearing our pajamas and jump out from behind the couch. We wanted to transform ourselves into an actual witch and an actual werewolf. So we switched sourced unrecognizable clothing from our parents closets and assembled the most amazing costumes. Actually, we prefer the word disguises because costumes is sort of, you know, doesn't do it justice. We even, like, found hand coverings and shoes that nobody would ever associate with us, and we put them all in a box. And once we had assembled all the pieces of our disguises, the plan was this. That Saturday night, as soon as the house was dark, Peter was going to sneak into my room, we were going to put on our disguises, and we were going to creep up the hallway into our little brother Charlie and Tony's room, who were 5 and 4 at the time, and we were going to loom over their beds and awaken them from slumber and terrify them. And this was such a delicious prospect that it was actually. It was actually really good that it took three days because we really got to stretch out the anticipation. And my favorite part about this plan, in retrospect, is that that's where it stopped. Like, it never occurred to us to think about what we might want to do once our parents had been awakened by our screaming brothers in the middle of the night. It never even occurred to us. I mean, we would just get to that point where they were so terrified, and we would dissolve into sinister laughter, and, you know, we'd wipe our hands together. It was just, like, perfect. Why go anywhere else? This was nirvana. So anyway, the night finally came. The night came, and everything at first went as planned. The house was quiet. Peter snuck into my room. We started putting on our disguises, and I have to tell you, we looked exactly like a witch and a werewolf. I mean, we scared ourselves. We'd look at each other and just be, like, alarmed at how frightening we were. And the piece de Resistance. The best part of both of our costumes was this scarf that I found that was navy blue with white polka dots. And I'm 57 years old. It's been almost 50 years. And I still remember this scarf. And it was so brilliant because it covered the top of the mask and it covered my telltale hairline. And I tied it over the top of my head. And not only did it serve to disguise these recognizable aspects of the disguise, but it looked exactly like the kind of headgear an actual witch would wear. So it was super true to form. Anyway, we were all done, and we started walking up the black and white checkered hallway. And with every step we took, we got deeper and deeper into character. And we were lifting our hands higher and higher, and we got to their door, and we slowly opened it, and I started cackling, and Peter started growling. And all of a sudden, this huge, looming, dark figure arose from Tony's bed and turned to us and said, you.
Madeline Berenson
Two get out of here right now.
Andrew Overdahl
And it was our mother, who had apparently fallen asleep while reading Tony a story. Well, I don't have to tell you what a code red situation this was. It was bad. There was nothing to do except run back to our rooms, strip the costumes, jump under our covers, and pull the blankets up. I mean, we're talking wooden spoon material here. This was bad. So we were the ones who ended up getting terrified, right? Waiting for her to come in and exact our punishment, but she didn't. She didn't come in. And then the next day, we thought, well, we better tiptoe around this and not mention it because she has forgotten, and we don't want to remind her. Nothing happened the next day. So we got away with it, except for the one piece of important information was that these beautiful costumes were wasted. And they were so realistic and so perfect, and they did not realize their full potential. Or so I thought. Because three years later, when I got punished for something I did not do and I did not deserve to be punished for, I had gathered my young siblings around me, and I was holding court, talking about, mom's mean, mom's unfair, I don't like Mom. And they were all listening to me. And my little brother Tony, who was then seven, piped up and said, mom's brave. And I said, what are you talking about, mom's brave? And he said, mom's brave? One night, a long time ago, a witch and a werewolf came into our room. And mom told them, get out. And they ran away, and she wasn't even scared.
Kevin Carlin
One more time for Madeline, huh?
Madeline Berenson
Wow.
Kevin Carlin
Madeline Berenson spent many of her early years moving from place to place. She grew up in different states, in large houses, far away from other people and packed to the rafters with oddities from the flea market. In other words, the ideal childhood for a writer, which is what she grew up to be. As well as a ski instructor. Madeline now lives in Eaglevale, Colorado, with her adored and adoring husband. David is a mother and stepmother to four children and two dogs.
Betsy Lamberson
Story crafting can be really difficult sometimes, and the hardest thing can be getting it down to five minutes for a story slam. And what I love about Madeline's story is her ending. She completely nails it on how to cut off a story.
Kevin Carlin
Yeah, the ending is very strong. And sometimes when we're going through the rules and one of the rules is make sure that it's a story, and we remind people, make sure it has a beginning, a middle and an end. And especially an end.
Andrew Overdahl
Yeah.
Betsy Lamberson
And with that, our final story today comes from Harry Fleener. Harry is the oldest storyteller at the Moth, and in a few weeks he'll be turning 97 years old. A couple notes about the story during his story, the mic stand kept sliding down to about the middle of his chest, and you'll hear where he had to adjust it. Harry told the story at the Denver Grand Slam, where the theme of the night was fish out of water. Here's Harry Fleenor live at the mall.
Harry Fleener
When I was 7 years old back in Parker, Kansas, my dad ran the newspaper there, and we lived on a farm about a mile out of town. And every day he took me and dropped me off and went on into town. Now, I'd never lived on a farm before, so all of the farm boys in school told me about how wonderful a farm was. And they told me about a word I never heard called sex. Now, not only that, but they told me about the little blonde in the second grade that would do it for a Milky Way. Now, I didn't know what am I all right? Am I normal? Anyway, this time, dad this summer, after that. And my dad would come out sometimes and he'd have lunch with mom and then he'd jump in the car and go back to work real quick. Am I growing or am I getting shorter? Hello? I'm having a hell of a conversation with this thing. Wait a minute now I forgot where I was. Well, anyway, on this particular day, dad came home at noon and we ate dinner and I went out and played. And all of a sudden, 45 minutes later the car was still there. And where was dad? So I looked in the car. He wasn't there. So I ran in the house and looked all over in the house and he wasn't there. By this time I'm getting a little more frightened. I go out and look through the henyard, run around there and not there in the barn, in the corral. I looked down in the pasture by the cow pond. Wasn't there. I went back in the house and I had missed a door and it was locked and I knocked on it. Bang. Bang. Dad. Mom. Where are you? Where are you? Bang, bang. Oh my God. They're inside. Dead. I know it. They're dead. They don't answer. So I kicked the door open and looked. There on the bed was my dad and mom naked. I really didn't appreciate looking at my mom naked. I don't know if you've ever had the experience, but don't. I don't recommend. No, I don't. So anyway, my mind turned and tumbled and I got scared. And I knew one thing. I didn't belong there. I ran out the door and I ran up to the barn and sit down on the haymount. And I said, they were doing it. I know they were doing sex. What you do is you get in bed a naked mom and dad and you look at each other. So now I remember now what those boys in the fifth and sixth grade were trying to do. They were trying to get me in bed with a naked girl. Not only that, but I thought about it for a while and I thought, oh, hey, what they want me to do is get in bed with a naked girl. Then I go and I gotta earn 10 pennies, which is a hell of a lot of money, until I got a nickel to buy a Milky Way. Well, I'll tell you what I'd rather do. I'd rather be down at the pond fishing or chasing killdeer birds or seining in the buggy boys. So they want me, those guys. I go down and I gotta give her my Milky Way. Forget it. Hey. Right, right there. I decided for my life, I am never ever going to do sex the rest of my life.
Kevin Carlin
That was Harry Fleener. If you've been to a Denver story, sleep, you'll know that Harry has such a rich past to draw stories from. He studied law and journalism, served in medical supply for the U.S. army in World War II, and safe to say, he didn't keep that promise. At the end of his story, Harry went on to father nine children. Nowadays, Harry spends his time dancing, hunting and attending local Toastmasters meetings and is very proud to still work as a car salesman. Thanks Harry. We can't wait to hear your next.
Betsy Lamberson
Story that's going to do it for the podcast this week. Thanks to all of our Denver storytellers and listeners for making this happen, and to all of you for helping make the Battle of the Slams such a success. For more information on how you can donate and support the Moth, Visit our.
Kevin Carlin
Website themoth.org you can also find more information about upcoming Slam dates there too. And if you're in the Denver area for a slam, feel free to stop by and say hi. Until then, have a story worthy week.
Betsy Lamberson
Kevin Carlin is a former stand up comedian from Buffalo, New York. He started telling Moth stories in New York City before moving to Denver where he now lives with his wife and kids and works as a court stenographer. He has been hosting the Moth Denver Story Slams for several years and loves telling and hearing stories.
Kevin Carlin
Betsy Lamberson is the local producer of the Denver Story Slam. She has told stories at the Moth Mainstage about her experience surviving a terrorist bombing. Originally from Casper, Wyoming, she currently lives in Denver with her five month old son.
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Podcast Summary: The Moth – "The Denver Battle of the SLAMs"
Episode Overview
In the December 12, 2017 episode of The Moth podcast titled "The Denver Battle of the SLAMs", hosts Betsy Lamberson and Kevin Carlin celebrate Denver’s triumph in the 2016 Battle of the Slams—a friendly nationwide competition among local Moth Story Slam cities. This episode features three captivating true stories from Denver storytellers, each delivered with humor, vulnerability, and profound insight. The featured storytellers include Andrew Overdahl, Madeline Berenson, and Harry Fleener, each sharing personal narratives that explore themes of fear, childhood mischief, and youthful misunderstandings.
Andrew Overdahl, a stand-up comic, writer, and actor from Denver, kicks off the episode with his nerve-wracking experience of performing on The Tonight Show. Andrew’s story delves into the intense emotions and self-doubt that accompany stepping onto a national stage.
Key Points:
First-Time Nerves: Andrew emphasizes the daunting challenge of performing live for the first time. “They’re so supportive. So Andrew's story, I love this one because it sort of speaks to that rush of stuff, stage fright that we're all familiar with” (01:19).
Prank Turns Reality: Initially believing the Tonight Show invitation to be a prank, Andrew recounts hesitantly preparing for the appearance. “I immediately thought, this is a cool prank. There's no way that this is a real thing” (02:35).
On-Stage Terror: The pressure mounts as Andrew describes his paralysis on stage. “My microphone hand is locked up like this. It’s like it’s done moving. All the joints have fused together” (04:30).
Triumphant Realization: Despite the fear, the audience’s positive reception transforms his experience. “The crowd is really enjoying it. They’re clapping like they’re at a magic show” (07:00).
Notable Quote:
“I was worthless. I couldn’t eat any food. I couldn’t have a conversation with someone because, like, halfway through the conversation, I would just sort of, like, fade off and just, like, mentally picture myself, like, tripping on stage in front of all these people watching me on TV. I was like, garbage.” (04:15)
Background: Andrew Overdahl is renowned in the Denver comedy scene, having created the hit storytelling show The Narrators and appearing on Those Who Can’t on TruTV. His storytelling prowess stems from his extensive experience in stand-up and writing, making his narratives both engaging and relatable.
Madeline Berenson, a seasoned storyteller and regular at Denver Story Slams, shares a nostalgic and humorous tale from her childhood. Her story revolves around an elaborate plan to scare her younger siblings using realistic witch and werewolf masks.
Key Points:
Big vs. Little Kids: Madeline reminisces about growing up in a large family, highlighting the divide between the "big kids" and "little kids." “We big kids were innovators and leaders... the little kids mostly just sat around eating paste and shitting themselves” (08:48).
The Prank Preparation: Discovering lifelike masks, Madeline and her brother Peter meticulously craft disguises to maximize the scare factor. “We wanted to transform ourselves into an actual witch and an actual werewolf” (11:00).
Execution and Outcome: The prank takes an unexpected turn when their mother intervenes, turning the tables and leaving the siblings in fear. “We were the ones who ended up getting terrified, right?” (14:15).
Reflections: Years later, Madeline reflects on the unintended impact of their actions, recognizing her mother’s bravery from her younger brother’s perspective. “Mom’s brave. One night, a long time ago, a witch and a werewolf came into our room. And mom told them, get out” (15:50).
Notable Quote:
“The most important information was that these beautiful costumes were wasted. And they were so realistic and so perfect, and they did not realize their full potential.” (14:00)
Background: Madeline Berenson’s diverse upbringing, moving across states and growing up amidst eclectic surroundings, has fueled her creativity as a writer and ski instructor. Residing in Eaglevale, Colorado, Madeline balances her storytelling with family life, becoming a beloved figure in the Denver storytelling community.
Harry Fleener, the oldest storyteller at The Moth nearing 97 years old, offers a poignant and humorous recount of his childhood misunderstanding about the concept of sex, shaped by his elders’ misleading descriptions.
Key Points:
Ignorance and Misconceptions: Harry recounts how his lack of understanding about sex, combined with mischievous tales from older kids, led to a series of humorous yet awkward experiences. “I thought about it for a while and I thought, oh, hey, what they want me to do is get in bed with a naked girl” (17:18).
The Pledge Against Sex: His childhood resolve to avoid the confusion and embarrassment altogether by vowing never to engage in sex driven by a fear of failure and misunderstanding. “I decided for my life, I am never ever going to do sex the rest of my life.” (22:57).
Life Lessons: Harry’s story underscores the importance of clear communication and the impact of childhood experiences on lifelong perspectives.
Notable Quote:
“I really didn’t appreciate looking at my mom naked. I don’t know if you’ve ever had the experience, but don’t. I don't recommend.” (18:00)
Background: Harry Fleener’s rich life experiences, including studying law and journalism, serving in the U.S. Army during World War II, and fathering nine children, provide a deep well of stories. Currently a car salesman, Harry remains active in his community through dancing, hunting, and participating in local Toastmasters meetings.
The episode concludes with hosts Betsy Lamberson and Kevin Carlin reflecting on the storytellers’ narratives, praising their ability to encapsulate complex emotions and experiences within the confines of a five-minute tale. They highlight the art of crafting a compelling ending, as demonstrated by Madeline’s story, and commend Harry for his vivid recounting of childhood memories despite technical challenges during his storytelling.
Final Remarks:
“Story crafting can be really difficult sometimes, and the hardest thing can be getting it down to five minutes for a story slam. And what I love about Madeline's story is her ending. She completely nails it on how to cut off a story.” (16:22)
The hosts extend their gratitude to the Denver storytellers and listeners, celebrating the community’s contribution to making the Battle of the Slams a resounding success. They encourage listeners to support The Moth through donations and to attend future Story Slams for more engaging storytelling experiences.
About the Hosts:
Kevin Carlin: A former stand-up comedian from Buffalo, New York, Kevin transitioned to Denver where he now resides with his family. He brings his comedic background and storytelling passion to his role as the host of Denver Story Slams, enriching the local storytelling culture.
Betsy Lamberson: As the local producer of the Denver Story Slam, Betsy combines her personal experiences, including surviving a terrorist bombing, with her role in fostering a vibrant storytelling community. She balances her storytelling with motherhood, raising her five-month-old son in Denver.
Production Credits:
For more information on The Moth and upcoming Story Slams, visit themoth.org.