The Moth Podcast: Hoses and Home Ec

Summary

The Moth Podcast: "Hoses and Home Ec" – Episode Summary

Episode Overview

In the "Hoses and Home Ec" episode of The Moth Podcast, host Suzanne Rust presents two compelling true stories that delve into personal struggles and the quest for autonomy during adolescence. The episode, released on June 6, 2025, features narratives centered around high school experiences and sibling dynamics, aligning with themes of resistance and temptation. This summary captures the essence of each story, highlighting key moments, notable quotes, and the underlying insights that resonate with listeners.

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1. High Schools and Sibling Rivalries

Storyteller: Suzanne Ketchum Adams
Event: Boston Grand Slam
Theme: Never Again

Summary:

Suzanne Ketchum Adams recounts her tumultuous experience in a 9th-grade home economics class in Pennsylvania during October 1973. Her story begins with a moment of humiliation when her teacher, Ms. McSparrin, harshly criticizes her sewing project by ripping it apart in front of the entire class. This public embarrassment ignites her frustration, not only towards the teacher but also towards the gender-based educational disparities she observes. While her male peers are exempted from mandatory home economics and industrial arts classes, Suzanne and her female classmates are compelled to take additional courses.

Motivated by a sense of injustice, Suzanne crafts a petition invoking the First Amendment rights she cherishes from her civics class. The petition declares:

“We, the girls of 9th grade, do hereby protest the requirement that we take yet another year of home economics, while the boys in our class are free to take electives. And furthermore, boys and girls should never have to have different course requirements in the first place.”
(Suzanne Ketchum Adams, 04:45)

She actively gathers signatures from her peers, aiming to present the petition to the principal. However, her efforts are met with resistance when the assistant principal dismissively informs her:

“Ms. Adams, you are right about one thing. The boys don't have to take this class. But you do have to take it. Unless you don't want to be promoted to 10th grade.”
(Suzanne Ketchum Adams, 07:15)

Despite this setback, the act of circulating the petition creates a ripple effect. Her teacher, Ms. McSparrin, alters her approach, reducing her harsh criticisms. By the end of the school year, the mandatory home economics requirement is revoked for incoming 9th-grade girls, a change influenced by Suzanne's initial stand.

Notable Quotes:

• Suzanne Ketchum Adams:

  “I just want you to take some pride in your work.”
  (04:30)

• Suzanne Ketchum Adams:

  “I kept my head low. And when I walked out of that classroom on the last day in June, I knew that I would never again have to take home ec.”
  (07:50)

Insights and Conclusions:

Suzanne's narrative highlights the power of individual agency in challenging systemic inequalities. Her creative use of civic knowledge to address personal grievances underscores the importance of education in fostering critical thinking and activism. The story also reflects the broader societal gender norms of the 1970s, illustrating how personal experiences can catalyze institutional change.

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2. Temptation and Rebellion in Childhood

Storyteller: Jeff Rose
Event: New York City Story Slam
Theme: Temptation

Summary:

Jeff Rose shares a humorous yet poignant tale from his childhood, centered around his deep-seated aversion to attending church. From a young age, Jeff was vocal about his dislike, even publicly declaring his intent to leave the service during a sermon at approximately four years old. This rebellious streak continued into his eight-year-old self, who despised the mandatory church attendance his family enforced.

The story reaches its climax on an Easter Sunday when Jeff, donned in a restrictive little blue pinstriped suit, is sent to water the garden—an assignment meant to keep him occupied and away from the discomfort of church. Engaging with the hose absentmindedly, Jeff inadvertently creates a watery mess. Just then, his four-year-old sister Margaret approaches, clad in a frilly pink outfit, exuding innocence and unawareness of Jeff's true feelings. Caught between his desire to escape church and his sister's pure presence, Jeff finds himself in a moment of pure temptation and mischief.

Succumbing to the rebellious urge, Jeff directs the hose at Margaret, soaking her attire. The ensuing chaos results in disciplinary action from his grandmother, who scolds him with a yardstick. Despite the reprimand, Jeff reflects on his actions with a sense of satisfaction, not just for shaking off his suit but also for inadvertently preventing future generations from enduring the same mandatory classes.

Notable Quotes:

• Jeff Rose:

  “I was just saying what everyone was thinking, honestly.”
  (10:15)

• Jeff Rose:

  “I was particularly happy to get to show up Margaret and I was also happy because I got to get out of my suit.”
  (16:05)

Insights and Conclusions:

Jeff's story serves as a lighthearted exploration of childhood rebellion and the lengths to which one might go to assert independence. It also touches on sibling relationships and the unintended consequences of youthful defiance. Through humor and self-reflection, Jeff illustrates how acts of resistance, even those born out of frustration, can lead to positive changes beyond the immediate context.

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Episode Conclusion

In "Hoses and Home Ec," The Moth delves into themes of resistance, autonomy, and the impact of individual actions on broader systems. Through Suzanne Ketchum Adams' advocacy for gender equality in education and Jeff Rose's mischievous stand against obligatory religious practices, listeners are reminded of the profound effects personal stories can have on both personal growth and societal change.

Host Suzanne Rust wraps up the episode by emphasizing the significance of finding and using one's voice, encouraging listeners to engage in storytelling as a means of personal expression and empowerment. The episode not only entertains but also inspires reflection on how small acts of defiance can lead to meaningful transformations.

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Additional Information

• Host: Suzanne Rust, Senior Curatorial Producer at The Moth
• Production Team: Sarah Austin, Janess, Sarah Jane Johnson, Mark Sullinger
• Presenters: Odysee (Executive Producer Leah Rees Dennis)
• More Episodes & Information: Visit themoth.org

Transcript

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[Suzanne Rust]

I'm Suzanne Rust, and welcome to the Moth Podcast. On this episode, High Schools and Sibling Rivalries. First up is Suzanne Ketchum Adams, who told this story at a Boston Grand Slam where the theme was Never Again. Here's Suzanne, live with the Moth.

[Narrator]

It's October of 1973 and I'm a freshman in high school in a small town in Pennsylvania, and I'm sitting in my third required year of home economics class. I have just sewed two red patch pockets onto the front of a yellow dress, but they're upside down now. Before I can do anything to correct this, Ms. McSparrin, my teacher comes bustling over to inspect my work, and instead of making a joke about how this would make it hard to hold onto my lunch money, she starts to rip apart my work in front of the whole class, criticizing my seam allowance and my basting. And at this humiliation, I start to cry, to which she responds, I don't want your tears. I just want you to take some pride in your work. Well, I took pride in most of the work I did, but I didn't want to learn to sew. I didn't want to be in home EC class. And I'm still fuming about this later that morning in study hall, not just over the humiliation, but over the injustice of it. Because the boys in ninth grade did not have to take home economics. They didn't even have to take industrial arts anymore, as they had in seventh and eighth grade. They were all done with that. And I'm thinking about this as I pull out my civics homework. Now, that is a class that I love. I love the teacher, Mrs. Clouse, and I love what we're studying right now, which is the Constitution of the United States. And especially the First Amendment. And now when I look at the First Amendment, I notice something I hadn't seen before. Nestled in there, next to freedom of speech and freedom of religion, is this phrase about having the right to petition for the redress of grievances. And there has just been a grievance about my dress. So I start to scribble out a petition with my big ball point in my spiral notebook. And it goes like this. We, the girls of 9th grade, do hereby protest the requirement that we take yet another year of home economics, while the boys in our class are free to take electives. And furthermore, boys and girls should never have to have different course requirements in the first place. And I sign it. I sign it, and I start passing it around the study hall to my classmates. And almost all of them sign it right away. And as the day goes on, I hand it around all of my classes. And by the end of the day, I have this long list of signatures. And I think, okay, time for action. And I'm thinking, well, it must be, the principal should be able to do something about this, right? And so I go down to the principal's office, and I'm thinking, oh, he can get this abolished by next week, you know. And, well, the principal is busy, so I talk to the assistant principal, and he seems amused at first. But when I start to say, and it's really not fair because boys don't have to take it, he says, Ms. Adams, you are right about one thing. The boys don't have to take this class. But you do have to take it. Unless you don't want to be promoted to 10th grade. Well, that pretty much took the wind out of my sails, and I kind of backed out of the office. But I still had the same problem. How to get through this year with this awful teacher. Well, it turned out that it was less of a problem than I expected, because word got around about this petition. And I guess it got back to Ms. McSparrin. She suddenly seemed kind of afraid of me, and she backed off in her criticism and I kept my head low. And when I walked out of that classroom on the last day in June, I knew that I would never again have to take home ec. Well, the summer passed and September came again. And now I'm walking down the same hall as a sophomore when I see my teacher, Mrs. Clouse, the civics teacher from the previous year. And she motions for me to come over. And I think she's just going to ask about how my summer was. But instead she tells me that the homec requirement for the incoming class of 9th grade girls has been dropped. Now, she doesn't say anything about my petition, but really, as I'm starting to absorb this, my first thought is, well, that's not fair. We had to take that class. But then it starts to sink in. And the words I'd written in the petition, we the girls of ninth grade. Well, honestly, when I wrote them, I was just trying to get out of Home ec. And the last thing on my mind was this class of girls coming along the next year. But it turned out it wasn't all about me. Because these new ninth grade girls, well, they can still take home E.C. if they wanted to, but they didn't have to take it anymore. Thank you.

[Suzanne Rust]

That was Suzanne Ketchum Adams. Suzanne loves reading, hearing, telling and writing stories. She takes a special pride in coaching others to tell their own stories with passion. Suzanne lives in Massachusetts with her family and is currently at work on a novel. Oh, and way to go Suzanne. Learning how to use your voice is everything. Back when I was a teenager, I didn't have home eck and school, but I did have a mom at home who liked to cook. She showed me how to clean shrimp, prepare artichokes, and my favorite, how to sweat sliced eggplant or make them cry, as she called it. Learning how to cook for yourself is an important skill. You know what else is an important skill? Knowing how to tell your story. If you're a high schooler that loves to stand up for themselves, or if you have one in your life. The Moths education program has a ton of programs and guidance that help young people tell their own story, whether that's up on stage in their college application essay or just with their friends. To find out more, go to themoth.org edu up next, some sibling drama. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back. Up next, we'll hear about the ways a kid tried to get out of something they couldn't stand. Jeff Rose told this at a New York City story slam where the theme of the night was temptation. Here's Jeff live at the Moth.

[Jeff Rose]

I always hated. I always hated going to church. Even before I could remember, I hated going to church because I've been told that when I was about three and a half or four years old, I stood up on the pew in the middle of the sermon and in a little small but confident voice announced, this is taking too long, I'm leaving. I was just saying what everyone was thinking, honestly. So by the time that I was eight, I knew, I knew how much I hated going to church. And my family always went to church. We never, ever didn't go to church. So this was unavoidable for me. And what I really hated the most about this was that they would demean me. They would dress me up in this little pinstriped suit, this little blue pinstripe suit with a little clip on tie. And if you see little boys in Brooklyn on a Sunday dressed up in suits, they all look like kind of, you know, like they can't wait to take it off. They cannot wait to take the suit off. And, you know, I mean, it's completely a demeaning thing. Adults come by, they say, oh, you look so grown up and handsome. It's so ridiculous. But so when I was 8, for Easter, I was left in the care of my grandma with my two sisters. And my two sisters and me just fought all the time. Then my older sister was four years older and she was 12 and her name was Lara. And she was really over having a little brother. And our relationship was mostly sitting in the back of the car and elbowing each other and yelling. And then my younger sister Margaret sat in the front and she was 4. And my grandma would yell at us for fighting with each other and go, shut up, kid, shut up. And then Margaret up front would go, I'm being good, aren't I, grandma? Which was the one thing that me and Laura were bonding over at the the time. It was unacceptable. So it came on Easter Sunday. I got up, I put on my little suit and sat there and waited because I wanted church to be over so I could get candy. And in the meantime, my parents had sent along two little dresses for my sisters. And my grandma was working on them and working on them and working on their hair. And my grandma said to me, jeff, why don't you go outside and water the garden, but promise me that you will not get your suit wet and muddy. And I don't know why she did this. Maybe I just looked so grown up and handsome that she believed it. But I went out to water the garden and I was a pretty good kid. So, you know, I was trying. I had the hose out away from me and I was playing with it because we didn't have a nozzle. So we just. I was using the thumb and kind of like working it, making it spray more or less so. And kind of like I kind of got into it a little bit and kind of forgot where I was and forgot about the fact I was in a suit and kind of not wanting to be there. And then suddenly, off to the side on the garden path, I heard a little voice and it said, jeff, hurry up, we're going to be late to church. And I looked over while holding the hose and there was my four year old son, Sister Margaret, and she was about three and a half foot tall at the time and she was wearing this little pink outfit that had little frilly, you know, just kind of knock kneed with the little frilly skirt coming out. And then I looked back at my hose and then I looked back at her and she had like little shoes with the little ribbons on them and her hair was all up and curled with the ribbons in it and her face was red. She looked like a little magnolia blossom, basically. And I looked back at the hose again and in that, you know, they say that professional athletes actually have this thing that they go into called the zone. I don't really know, I didn't play sports or anything in high school, but, you know, you envision something that's going to happen and then you do it perfectly. I kind of wish she was here. And the theme was gloating, actually. But so I just, I turned it on her and it was wonderful. I think she was too young to really no guile or hatred. So she just took it flat footed.

[Suzanne Rust]

And.

[Jeff Rose]

She didn't even close her mouth. Her mouth. And I just started at the top and just, you know, used my thumb so it sprayed a little harder and just hosed her all the way down and her whole outfit just lost all its volume. She was like a little dog, you know, that just gets and you know, my grandmother, my grandmother took a yardstick down off of the top of a and she proceeded to break it on me. And my older sister, you know, she remembers that it actually stung me and that I was sad. But the way that I remember is that I was particularly happy to get to show up Margaret and I was also happy because I got to get out of my suit. But mostly I was happy about the fact that we didn't have to go to church.

[Suzanne Rust]

That was Jeff Rose Jeff is a New York City based writer, performer and web consultant. He served as digital producer of Art, Humanity and Action, a short podcast series that encourages everyday people to get involved through real stories about grassroots action. That's it for this episode. From all of us here at the Moth, we hope you stand up for yourself in home EC class or beyond.

[Host]

Suzanne Rust is the Moth's Senior Curatorial Producer and one of the hosts of the Moth Radio Hour. In addition to finding new voices and fresh stories for the Moth stage, Suzanne creates playlists and helps curate special storytelling events. This episode of the Moth Podcast was produced by Sarah Austin, Janess, Sarah Jane Johnson and me, Mark Sullinger. The rest of the Moth leadership team includes Sarah Haberman, Christina Norman, Jennifer Hickson, Kate Tellers, Marina Clouche, Suzanne Rust, Leeann Gulley and Patricia Urenia. The Moth Podcast is presented by Odysee. Special thanks to their Executive producer, Leah Rees Dennis. All Moth stories are true as remembered by their storytellers. For more about our podcast, information on pitching your own story and everything else, go to our website themoth.org.