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The Moth Radio Hour: Wedding Dress, Prison Choir, and a Hotdog
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A feminist searches for the perfect wedding dress, a playwright visits a prison in Malawi, a man spends a lifetime regretting a single moment, and a new mother struggles with her prosthetic arm. Storytellers: Jessi Klein, Al Letson, Marco Huertas,
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Dan Kennedy
Welcome to the Moth Podcast. I'm Dan Kennedy. This week on the Moth Podcast, it's a brand new Moth Radio Hour. So a full hour of stories for you on the podcast this week. And and of course, my only job really on these episodes is to just pop in really quick and tell you any news of upcoming live stuff that we're doing. And there's no news this week, so here you go. The Moth Radio Hour.
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Jennifer Hickson
From prx, this is the Moth Radio Hour. I'm Jennifer Hickson. The Moth is true stories told in front of live audiences all over the world. In this episode, we go to a dance audition, a hot dog stand, a bridal shop and prison. Just your average day at the Moth. This first story is from Jesse Klein. She began telling stories for us in 2003, early in her comedy career. These days, she's the head writer and one of the executive producers on the Emmy award winning show Inside. So when we put together an evening of stories with our friends the Kitchen Sisters, we thought it would be fun to explore a theme they've spent a lot of time with. The hidden world of girls. We knew that Jesse Klein had recently gone through a bridal rite of passage getting ready for her wedding. So we reached out. Well, I've never been wedding dress shopping with anyone before and I have to say I had no idea. Here's Jesse Klein live at the Moth in New York City.
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Jesse Klein
Immediately after I got engaged, every woman I know started asking me, what are you going to do about a wedding dress? What kind of wedding dress are you going to wear? And I would always say the same thing, which was, oh, I'm not going to wear a wedding dress. And as I would watch their heads explode, I would feel this sort of wave of self satisfaction washing over me. And it was kind of similar to the smug feeling I have when I tell people that I don't personally find Brad Pitt attractive. Like, I understand why you do, but he's just like, not my thing. Equally shocking to humans. But the truth is genuinely, I have never, I've never really related to wedding dresses. You know, like the Cinderella ness of them, the poof ness of them. I've always thought they looked kind of cheesy and I've just never related to that kind of traditional femininity, you know what I mean? Like, even though I am a straight woman, I've never been able to really plug into the kinds of things that straight women are supposed to do, you know, like drink Diet Coke and, like, do ballet and laugh and laugh and just, like, be in, like, a good mood or whatever. I. And also, like, as a feminist, I've never really liked what I perceive wedding dresses to stand for. Like, it always seems to me like these gowns are designed to kind of like, eliminate your individuality and just kind of level everyone into this universal symbol of femaleness. Kind of like, you know, like that faceless woman in the triangle dress on the door of every ladies room in America. Like, I feel like that's what a lot of people look like in wedding dresses. And I didn't want to be in a trip triangle dress. So in reality, my plan was, like, I'll go to a department store and I'll just, like, spend a little more than I normally would on just, like, a pretty dress. And that. That's gonna be what I do. What I was not expecting was how many of my friends, like, actively wanted to take me wedding dress shopping, like, really wanted to do it. And not even just like my close friends, like, like acquaintances, like people I didn't know well, like, start to feel like, well, maybe this is one of those experiences that you're supposed to have just so you could say you had it. Sort of like when I dated a guy who had a motorcycle, I just was like, I have to do this. Although the side note to that is I didn't find out until after I slept with him that he had only borrowed the motorcycle. So that should probably have been like, a foreshadowing to how this was going to go. But I was like, whatever. I have to do it just to say I did it. And so I let my friends make an appointment in for me at Lovely Bridal. That's what it's called. And it's this bridal boutique in the West Village. And it's very girly. Obviously, it's a bridal boutique. They all are. And it's like twee chandeliers. And I go with my friends and I'm trying on dresses. And I didn't know that there's a very specific way that this goes, which is that someone like a sales lady has to help you into the dress because they're very complicated and big. And so what that means is that there's a stranger in a dressing Room with me, seeing me naked, except for, like, a strapless bra and heels, which they make you bring. And for me, those things are paired with, like, the most raggedy pair of Gap underwear, because I like to wear my underwear until it's ratty, like an old pirate flag. So it's like not a good look. And you have to kind of check your dignity at the door. And then once you're in a dress and it's always either like, super too big or super too small, they use like an industrial clip and, like, clip it to you. And then you shuffle out into the room and you stand on a pedestal and your friends look at you. And me and my friends would engage in a verbal tennis match that was like, the same for every dress. But towards the end of my, like, hour long appointment, I do try on this one dress that. That feels a little different. And it's sort of this cool art deco column of a dress, like sparkly beads or whatever. And it's like a little rock and roll. It sort of looks like something Kate Moss would do a ton of coke in and then pass out on a bed at the Ritz. I'm looking in the mirror and I'm like, I have to really think, do I want to look like a coked up Kate Moss on my wedding day? And a very large part of me was like, yeah, probably. Anyway, I didn't buy that dress, but I did feel something stirring for the first time, which was, for the first time, I was like, maybe there is value in, like, wearing a wedding dress the day I get married. Maybe there is some deeper meaning to just yielding to this hyper feminine version of myself for just like, literally a day, just so I can, like, check the box and, like, move on with my life. So anyway, so I decided, like, okay, I'm gonna do that. And the women at Lovely Bridal remind me that I have to buy the dress or whatever dress I get, I have to get six months in advance of my wedding day because it has to be made, it has to be altered, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I got this. It's no big deal. It's March, My wedding's in November. Like, I have plenty of time. I'm fine. And I also decide I'm not gonna bring my girlfriends to go shopping with me anymore because I am not a baby. I am a feminist grown up. And so a few weeks later, I go to this other bridal boutique and I tried a bunch of stuff. It's not that great. And then towards the end, I see A dress in the back of the store, stuffed in the corner. And it's sort of. It's like this vintage off white dress and it's kind of multi tiered on the bottom. It kind of looks like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree of dresses. And that appeals to me. So I put it on and I guess the best way to describe it is that it kind of looks like something like a very slutty saloon owner from the Old west would wear. And I'm like, I kind of love this. And I'm looking in the mirror and, like, I don't know, it's whimsical and bohemian and it feels like me, but it is a wedding dress. And I'm like, I think I'm done here. And I take a picture of myself in the dress and just to make sure I'm not crazy, I, like, text the photo to my friend Jenny and I just wait for her permission to get the dress and be done. But I don't get that. What I get instead is I've texted her the photo and then she texts back. But I get those three dots that you see on an iPhone when someone's texting you back and they're stopping and starting a lot in that way. The three dots stop and start on an iPhone when someone has something deeply unpleasant to tell you and is, like, really struggling. And when her text finally comes through, her text says, interesting dress, happy to keep shopping with you. And I was like, oh, all right. Well, obviously Jenny doesn't like the dress, but, like, whatever, it's one person. So I text the photo to all my friends and I just get back, like a wave of three dots. Like, everyone's three dotting it. And all the three dots are followed by, like, very tepid comments. And it's weird, like, I don't understand, like, why people aren't more enthusiastic about the dress, but everyone's being sort of polite and no one's being straightforward. And I'm like, alright, well, still no big deal, like, whatever, here's what I'll do. I'll shop for like two more weeks. I'll see if I can beat it, and if I can't, I'm just gonna buy the Charlie Brown dress. I don't care that much about this. I can't invest that much time. I'm a very busy feminist, so. But then my next stop is at Saks and something kind of bad happens at Saks, where I go and my saleswoman is, like, a slightly older woman. I think her name is Barbara. She's from New Jersey. She reminds me of my Jewish aunts. She's very sweet. I feel like, 10 minutes into my appointment, we're kind of best buds. Like, she likes me and I like her, and I'm trying stuff on, and again, I never feel comfortable. And finally I'm like, you know, I tried on this other dress at this other shop, and I'd like something that's kind of like this. And I have a photo. She's like, oh, honey, show me the photo. And I show her the photo, and her whole demeanor changes. Like, she scowls, and she literally says. She goes, you look pregnant in this dress. This is a maternity dress. And I was like, what? And this is the moment that my wedding dress search, like, stopped being about a dress and became an existential crisis of faith in myself where I was like, why can't I do this? Like, what is wrong with me as a woman that, like, I can't look feminine for literally, like, not even a whole day? It's really five hours of my whole life. And I feel like a failure as a woman. And I really start to think, like, maybe I'm also like, is this the first time I fail my fiance Mike? Like, am I going to be a failure as a wife? Quick side note about Mike. He'd been putting off buying a suit, right? He was not, like, getting it together. And I'm finally like, babe, this process takes way longer than you think it will. Like, you need to get on this. And he was like, all right. And so one Saturday, I was like, let's go. And we go to work one store, and he tries on one suit, and it looks awesome on him. And he buys it, and he doesn't cry, and no one told him he was pregnant. And I really love my husband a lot, but that day, I was like, I kind of hate you. Because for me, the search is just continuing and continuing, and looking for a wedding dress starts to become literally, like, another whole job. And the whole time, though, I'm thinking about the Charlie brown dress. It's, like, haunting me like an old lover. And finally, it's memorial day weekend, and I see the Charlie brown dress is online. It's on sale just for this weekend. And I call my friend zubaydah, and she comes to my house, and I basically, I, like, beg for her permission to buy the dress to put me out of my misery so I can be done. I'm like, ol yeller. And I'm like, put me down. Like, I. I'm done. And she's like, let's look at the photo of you again. And we look at the photo and she's like, you know what? You look super pretty. Just buy the dress. And I'm like, are you sure? She's like, yes, I'm sure. I go, are you sure? She's like, I'm so sure. And I have my finger on the mouse of my computer. I'm about to click purchase. And she's like, wait. And she goes, I feel like the tears of the dress hit you at a weird angle. And I look at her face and there's desperation in her eyes. And I will just say this about her. She is my oldest friend. We've known each other since we were 11. We went to junior high school together. She knew me when I wore a night brace. I knew her when she wore suspenders every day. I know she loves me and would not tell me something if it wasn't true. And this is how I find myself the next day, trudging in 98 degree heat to the snootiest department store in New York City, Bergdorf Goodman. And I have to tell you, I know for a fact that at this point I had tried on over 100 wedding dresses. I know this because I kept count, literally I think 101, and I'm going to Burgdorf Goodman. I'm a little intimidated because it's a very snooty store and I've never been there. And I'm like, is this one of those places that doesn't let Jews in? But they do. There are tons there. I was not the only one. And I was like crawling with them. But anyway, I'm like walking through Bergdorf Goodman. I'm like in a haze. I sort of look like Javier Bardem in no country for Old Men. Just like taking it all in through like my dead eyes. And then I see at the end of this hall, Cloudspart, I see the dress. I see this little white beaded, a line cocktail Audrey Hepburn dress. It's a Valentino dress. It's the dress of my dreams. It's like so simple and perfect. I like run towards it. I grab it my size, I run into the dressing room, I put it on. Perfect. I love it. I don't exactly look like Audrey Hepburn. I sort of look like Audrey Hepburn if she just like escapes from a fire. But I'm like, good enough. Like I can work with this. Like that's, that's a look like I'm doing it. I'm done. I'm done. I did it. I did It. I'm a woman. I bought. I bought a wedding dress, and I just quickly look at the price tag and it costs $10,000. And I suddenly hear this, like, very high pitched foreign voice. Go. Just do it. And I look around and I'm like, who's that? It was me. That was my own voice in my head. And I start to engage in this, like, insane inner monologue with myself where I'm just like, okay, here's the plan. Here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna put this on your credit card and you. And you're never going to tell a living soul how much it costs or where you got it. You will lie to everyone, including your own husband, about the origin of the dress. And that's totally cool. Like, it's fine. You'll just lie. You'll be a liar, and you'll just have this dress. And after, like a minute or two of this, I realized, like, this is the kind of narcissistic reasoning that married men recite to themselves when they're, like, buying an escort on, like, their amex, where just, like, any reason is justified. Like, my wife makes me do laundry. So, like, I had to do this. She trapped me. And I realized, like, I don't want to think about this like that. And I put the dress back on the rack and I go home and I call my friend Becky. And I start to sob. And I'm crying and I'm crying because I've lost my way. I'm like, I've lost my bearings. I've become somebody I don't recognize. Like, I've become the worst cliche, the cliche I feared at the very beginning of this. And Becky calms me down and she's like, this happens to everyone. It's okay. And just be gentle with yourself. And whatever you feel good in, just buy it. And that's how people will see you. So get the Charlie Brown dress if that's what you feel pretty in. And somehow she got through. Hi. And she gets through and I hang up with her and I pick up the phone and I call the Charlie Brown dress store and I order the dress. And then I have, like, the biggest glass of wine because I just threw this hundred pound weight off of my chest. I literally feel like Chief at the end of One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest when he takes the concrete sink and, like, lugs it through the window and then just like, runs. And I was like, that's how free I felt. So at the end of my wedding night. I'm so happy. I'm so drunk. I'm in my Charlie Brown dress. I've had the best time. I actually bought like a $25 cheapo dress to dance in. And, and I change into it and I take Charlie Brown dress and I throw it on the ground and I don't even think about it. It's like, whatever. And I don't think about it until the next day when I see that my wedding planner has very carefully put it back in the garment bag that I brought it in and zipped it up. And that bag is now at the back of my closet in my house. And I've only peeked at it once. And my husband Mike says I should get it professionally cleaned cause it's very dirty and like the hem is black and there's like a lot of wine all over it. But I don't think I'm going to get it cleaned because it actually means more to me in this disheveled, wriggled off state. And it's sort of like that translucent, wrinkled skin that a snake sheds off once it's been outgrown. Thank you guys so much.
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Jennifer Hickson
That was Jesse Klein, Emmy and Peabody award winning writer and comic. Okay, I know what you're thinking. You want to see the dress? I did too. Turns out a wedding website featured Jessie's wedding. They called it a chic fall Brooklyn winery wedding. You can get the link on our radio extras page, but in case you're driving your car right now, keep your eyes on the road. I'm just going to tell you she looks absolutely beautiful and you can check it out when you get home@themost.org.
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Al Letson
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Jennifer Hickson
You'D like to share this story or any of this stories you hear on the Moth Radio Hour, it's super easy. You can do it on our website or by using the Moth app, which is available for iOS and Android. When we return, two stories. One about a man who travels to Malawi and hears voices that change him forever. And another about the haunting man memory of a Guatemalan hot dog stand.
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Marco Huertas
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Jennifer Hickson
This is the Moth radio hour from prx. I'm Jennifer Hickson. This next story is from Al Letson. When most people travel, they spend time in places of great beauty. Visit historic landmarks, natural wonders. When Al traveled, he found something sacred where most people would never think to look or listen. Here's Al letson live in St. Louis, Missouri.
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Mary Archbold
So I get an email one day with this amazing opportunity. See, this organization is looking for a playwright and they are taking this playwright to Malawi, which at the time I didn't even know where Malawi was. But I did a quick Google search and it turns out that Malawi is a small country in Africa of on the east side, but not on the coast. And in this email, they were looking for a playwright with these specific qualities. And I felt like I was perfectly fit for this one. First of all, they were looking for a playwright who had some journalistic chops. And I thought, check. Secondly, a lot of the people in this play were going to be people of faith. And so I thought, hey, my dad is a Baptist preacher. I grew up in the church and I still kind of go to church every now and then. I mean, I'm a little church ish, you know, check three. It was going to Africa. I'm black, Check. So I'm thinking this is perfect for me. So, you know, I fill out the information, I send it in, I send some samples and all that stuff and literally six weeks later, I am on a plane to Malawi. Now, when I get to the airport, it's the first time that I meet the collaborators. There's Bob Shop, who is the creator and has this big idea about this story, and director Pam Berlin. And so we're going to Malawi to tell the story of Malawi's transition from dictator to democracy. Now, you know, getting on the plane with these two people that I didn't really know, I was a little bit worried. I traveled a lot and sometimes you get bad travel partners and that's not good. But Bob and Pam were amazing. I fell in love with them. We Just became family. And the whole ride over there, I'm thinking to myself that, you know, like, all right, so I'm not gonna buy into that whole narrative of a black man coming home to Africa. You know, I just. It's just so corny and played out. Listen, I have every single Erykah Badu album ever recorded. I love all of that stuff. But I just thought, you know, I'm just not gonna buy into that. I'm going to treat the Malawians the same way I treat people when I go to London or Barcelona. Like they're just people in high different culture. It's gonna be good. And I'm glad that I thought that way. Cause when we got to Malawi, the Malawians treated me just like the white people I was with. No big deal. I don't know. Deep down inside, secretly I was expecting a welcome home brother parade. But that didn't happen. But, you know, look, it was fine. So we're there and we're researching and we're learning about Malawi and we're learning about this dictator. And this dictator did what dictators do. Bad things. He killed people. He locked people up in prison for no reason. And as the writer, I told everybody I really need to see what a Malawian prison looks like. Because I've seen American prisons, but I don't know what a Malawian one looks like. And so I want to wrap my head around that. And so we went to this prison called the Makuyu prison. And the Mukuyu prison was the worst of all the prisons during the reign of Kumuzu Banda. And so we get into the prison and we're in this little vestibule type room and it's really dark. And while we're in there, we're talking to the warden and to the guards and they're like, you cannot take any pictures. But I'm a radio guy, right? So I've got my audio equipment and they say that it's fine, you can take your audio equipment. And I'm really excited because, you know, I am here to document all this. And I've got my radio equipment and I am prepared because before I went on this trip in America, I'd been doing some reporting and I'd gone into a prison and I had learned how to do the prison thing as a reporter. And it's really simple. You just go into the prison, you puff your chest up and you do this. Don't fuck with me, tell me your story. Don't fuck with me, tell me your story. Don't Fuck with me. Tell me your story. So I am in that vestibule, and I'm just getting ready, just getting ready. And then they open the doors up, and it leads to the yard. And the light just pours in, and it is so bright that I can't see anything except these figures begin to walk towards the door. And I can see them, and it's just these black shadows. And after a couple minutes, my eyes begin to adjust, and I look out, and they were all black boys between the ages of maybe 14 and 20. And it just. It just broke my heart. And I thought, what is it that it is a crime in this world to be a young black boy? And I mentor some kids back home in Jacksonville, Florida. And I'm looking at these boys and I'm seeing their face. I'm looking at them and I'm seeing my children's face. And my heart is just ruined. But I think to myself, you've got a job to do. Go out there and do it. So I take a deep breath, I grab my microphone, and I walk into that prison. And once we get inside there, there's a deacon with the church who works with the boys there. And he says that the boys have this choir and they never get a chance to sing for anybody, and would we mind if they sung for us? And I thought, oh, yes. I mean, I got my recording. Yes, let's do it. And so we walk around the corner into this other room. Now, this prison doesn't look like any American prison. The floors are sort of like a red clay material, as are the walls. The area that we're in has a corrugated steel roof, but you can still see puddles of water on the floor. There's a little bit of human feces in the corners.
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Mary Archbold
The boys are dressed in dirty white tank tops and shorts. Some have flip flops, some don't have any shoes on. And they line up and there's about 25 to 30 boys in front of me. And the boy facing me opens his mouth and begins to sing. And it is the clearest note. And it hits me. And then suddenly all the boys behind him join in. Now, the whole time that we've been in Malawi, all the singing that we've heard has been call and response. And that's exactly what this is. The boy sings at the beginning, and then everybody joins in. And as they sung, the song hit me like a wall of sound. And I could feel it hitting my nose, going through my face and coming out through the back. And it just surrounded me. And on that first song, I was being very much a reporter, just holding my microphone and. And trying to take it all in. But by the time the second song came around, I found myself rocking with the boys. And in the third song, I was in the middle of all the boys. I'm dancing, I'm singing words. I don't even know what the hell I'm saying. And I'm rocking with it, and my hands go down. And in the midst of that, I can feel my heart coming back together. So I'm dancing, and I'm looking at these boys and feeling the connection, that connection that I didn't think I'd ever have in Africa. It is happening right there with these boys right now, that these are like my children, that we are one. And in that, I'm feeling my heart come back together. So I go to move my hands to my chest, and as I go to move, I feel resistance. The first thing that came to my mind was, am I underwater? Because that's what it felt like, the way you move underwater, like there's resistance there. Of course, I'm not underwater, but it felt like it. And then all that Southern Baptist preaching that my father had given me over the years hit me like a ton of bricks. And I thought, I am in the presence of God. And I just wanted to fall on my knees because I didn't feel worthy of it. But I'm working and I'm with these boys, and I can't fall on my knees. So I just stayed there and let that feeling envelop me, just like the song. And I started to get these feelings. I think it is so arrogant for me to say that I heard the voice of God. But you know how you have an emotion and you pair that with a word so you feel good inside and that's happiness. You feel upset and that's sad. Well, I felt these feelings, and they became words. And it was just. It is well that even in this shitty little jail, it is well. And I got this. And the boys finished singing. And I held on to that feeling in my heart. And afterwards, the boys came up and I talked to them. I tried to give them words of encouragement. And we got in the Land Rover and headed back to the hotel. And while we were driving, Bob, Pam and the driver, they all wanted to talk about this thing. They were being very intellectual about what had just happened. And I just. I couldn't do it. I could not deal with that. So I just put my headphones on, and as we were driving, it just hit Me, full speed. And I could just feel myself getting bigger and bigger with all these emotions. And I felt like I was about to pop. And I don't know what Pam saw, but she grabbed my hand and squeezed it, and the tears just flowed out of my eyes. I must have cried the entire ride. It was about 40 minutes, and we got back to the hotel, and I had one last interview to do. This was the big one coming up. And so I. I collected myself. I knew that I had to empty my recorder because I had just done a lot of recording in the jail. Now, when I walked in the jail, I had 10 files on the recorder. When I walked out of the jail, I had 14 files on the recorder. When I went to my room to download all the Sound, I had 10 files on the recorder. The 10th file was corrupted, and it messed everything up. After that, I felt like a complete failure because I came all the way to Malawi to document this, and I failed. So I had to go downstairs and talk to Bob and Pam, and I told them that I didn't have it. And I cried. And Pam grabbed my hand and she said, it's okay. It's all right. We were never supposed to have that audio because if we did, we would just be looking for the moment when God appeared, and we would never find it. It would never be there. It's got to live in our hearts, in our minds. We have to hold onto it there. I finished up the next interview, and a day or two later, I hopped on a plane and I went home. And it took a while, but a year later, I finished that play. And Pam was right. I didn't need a recording. I hold that memory in my heart and go back to it all the time when I need it. And, you know, when I was in Malawi, I thought that when I came back to America, I was going to go to church, that I was going to, like, you know, be the kid that my dad always wanted me to be. That hell, maybe I'd be a preacher. I don't know. Like, I felt like I was going to change. And when I got back to America, I drove by a church, and I couldn't even look at it. I couldn't comprehend it. And I can't talk to anybody in my family about it. They just. They just won't understand. But I haven't been to church since because I feel like my entire life growing up, I had been handed this glass of water. When I was in Malawi, I swam in the ocean, and no glass will ever be good enough again. Thank you.
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Jennifer Hickson
That was Al Letson. He's a writer, poet, and a playwright. He's also host of the public radio program Reveal and the podcast Airfang. I hope I'm saying that right, Al. It sounds so cool when you say it. Air Thang. As you heard, we don't have a recording of the boys from the Mikuyu prison, but here's a bit of the traditional call and response a cappella singing you can hear in Malawi. Al recorded these women at a little church outside of Zamba about a week before his recorder conked out. Our next story takes place in Guatemala, but was told at one of our open mic story slams in Houston, Texas. The theme that night was Scars. And Marco Huertas, who came to the United States as a Fulbright scholar, chose to talk about the kind of scar you feel but can't see. Here's Marco. You live in Houston, Texas.
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So I was perhaps 16 years old living in Guatemala. That's where I grew up. I was raised in, you know, lower middle class family. My dad was an accountant. My mom, you know, stayed at home, but she always, you know, found ways of, you know, making money, you know, cooking or, you know, sewing or doing something like that. So they always provided for us, but we didn't have, like, extra money for things that we wanted to buy, you know, like allowance or something like that. So they encouraged us to find ways of getting money. You know, you can wash a car, you know, get at the grocery store or something like that. So the way I did it is I was very good in math, and so I became like a tutor for kids. So I helped them with their algebra and stuff like that. And that's how I made money. But of course, the money that I made was just for me. I didn't have to really use that money to help support my family or anything like that. So around that time, a lot of the gas stations very close to where I was living in Guatemala were changing. They started selling more American food. They had nachos with cheese, and they had these sodas and chips and all that stuff. And as a teenager in third world country, you say, oh, American food. I have to try that. And of course, I had some money to do it. So one day I saw that there was this gas station where they were selling these huge hot dogs, which I really like. And so I said, okay, I'm going to go and buy one. So I went and I didn't get one, of course, right. I got two. And they were huge. Big bun, sausage, chili, you know, the Works everything in there. And so I came out of the store with one hot dog in one hand, the other one, I started eating one. And as I was walking on the street away from the gas station, I saw this man coming towards me and he was walking with a kid. He was perhaps, I don't know, 10, 11 years old. And as they approached and they went past by me, the kid looked at me and. And of course he looked at the hot dogs. And of course, from the way they were dressed, I quickly picked up that they were poverty stricken family, they were poor, and most likely the kid was working with his dad, so he might be his assistant or something like that. So the kid looked at me and said, wow, these are great. Where did you get them? And I said, oh, you can get them at the gas station. So he look at his dad and like, you know, can we get one? And of course. And I just turn, you know, I look at the dad and the dad had this face, right? Like, you know, we cannot afford something like that. So at that point, I can assure you that I heard a voice in my head and you know, something like, come on, man, you know, you have two, right? You just need one. You don't need two. One is enough. Give one to the kid. And well, you know, I didn't do it. I just turned around and kept walking. But I can tell you that really there's something, you know, broke inside me because that second hot dog didn't taste as good as the first one. And I remember very clearly that I walked that street for maybe the next couple of days, up and down at about the same time, just hoping to find the kid again. Just making sure that I had another chance to do something that I knew I didn't do, but of course didn't happen. And I realized that this was one of those random opportunities that you have that life gives you to assert yourself as a decent human being. And I clearly missed that opportunity that day. And it has haunted me the rest of my life. Thank you.
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Jennifer Hickson
That was Marco Huertas. He's a PhD in physics. Marco came to the Moth story slam because he wanted to challenge himself to do something difficult, speak in public. A very common fear, he wrote me. When I looked at the theme scars, the story I told came easily. I don't know how long I had suppressed this memory, but it came back to me. I was riding my bike back from work, thinking about this event, and I cried almost all the way. I thought, this is really something that has marked me. I'm glad I didn't cry on stage, but I was trembling. These days, Marco Huertas is a research scientist studying computational neuroscience at the University of Texas Health Center. In his spare time, he volunteers at three different nonprofits. He told me, clearly, I'm trying to not let that boy go by again without doing something. In a moment. A dancer who grew up in a small town where everyone knew her moves to the big city.
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Marco Huertas
The Moth is supported by Sacred Heart University's Film and Television Masters Program, a one year hands on conservatory devoted to cinematic storytelling located in Stamford, Connecticut. Learn more at FTMA SacredHeart.edu. the Moth Radio Hour is produced by Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts and presented by PRX.
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Jennifer Hickson
You're listening to the Moth Radio Hour from prx. I'm Jennifer Hickson. Our final story is from Mary Archbold. She performed this story as part of a Moth community showcase. Here's Mary Archbold live at the Moth in New York City.
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Al Letson
So when I auditioned for the dance program at the University of Michigan, I quickly realized that one of these things is not like the other. All the girls there were perfect long lean hair in a perfect bun, no flyaways. And there I was in a brightly colored leotard, tan tights and a ponytail with my curly frays going everywhere. And then they all did their audition pieces, which were meaningful pieces of modern dance. And then I did my audition piece, which was a jazz routine to Huey Lewis in the news, Hip to be square. And when I finished my piece, the director of the program looked at me and said, wow, we've never had one like you before. And I quickly realized, wow, he's talking about my arm. You see, I am an amputee. I'm a congenital amputee. So it's always been this way. And I have worn a prosthetic since I was about three months old, except for a short stint in high school when I had an injury and I sort of lived in this bubble that everyone knew about it and seem to judge me for it. I was just Mary to them. And to have someone point this out to me so blatantly, I realized that's how the world sees me. Not as normal as something different. And it freaked me out. So that summer I told my mother I wanted to go back to wearing prosthetics before I started to go to school with 20,000 of my new friends. And she agreed. And $20,000 later, I had a lovely arm that I went to school with. And then I started college determined to appear normal and no one would know there was a problem. Right up at the. I had roommates and you live with them and you might not know, but you cannot wear a prosthetic 24 hours a day. It's terrible for your skin. Your skin will actually break down and bleed. So my way of hiding it was at the end of the night I would get into bed, pull my covers up really tight and take off my arm underneath the covers. And the first thing I did in the morning was put it back on and then get out of bed gracefully, I'm sure. And I succeeded. I appeared normal. And then eventually I was getting married and I was looking for the most important part of your wedding, the dress. And I found the dress. And I knew it was the dress because my mother started to cry when she saw me in it. And there was only one problem with the dress. It was strapless. And that meant that my arm would be showing and on my wedding day I wouldn't appear normal. And so my mother had these wonderful long gloves made and they covered my arm beautifully. But somehow on the morning of my wedding, I decided I'm not going to wear them. I'm just going to go as me. And there I stood at the back of the church about to go to my wedding and I pulled my veil over my arm. And then I moved to New York and I'm a professional actor and. Yeah. And so I'm performing and I'm working with a wonderful company that's called an integrated company where they have able bodied and disabled actors performing together. And everything was going great. And I did a wonderful new piece by Neil LaBute and the new York Times came to review it and they said it was wonderful. And they pointed me out and they said it was only unfortunate that it was performed by an able bodied actress. This was my coup de grace. The New York Times said I was able bodied. So it doesn't get better. I have arrived. And then just at that moment, I got the biggest challenge to appearing normal. I became a mother. Yeah. So luckily, when you're pregnant, which is 10 months, not nine, just for clarification sake, you have a long time to Think about how you want to deal with your prosthesis and your children because you worry not just about yourself, about what will they face, how will they explain it, what will they think of it? Will they see me not as normal? And I decided before I had my son, I wasn't going to let him see me not normal. So I was going to take care of my son with my prosthesis on. So when he came home, I was working with my arm and taking care of an infant. And I realized as I'm feeding him, his head is resting on my prosthesis, which is metal. And I realize I'm changing his diaper and a squirming baby is moving. So I place my arm across his chest to try to hold it down. And I'm resting 2 1/2 pounds on a 5 pound 10 ounce baby to keep him in place. And I'm thinking, well, I will appear normal. So it's fine, it's fine. And then I got my biggest challenge yet. I had to bathe him. Prosthesis, just so you know, can't get wet ever. Bad metal water, not good. So after about 10 days of my son being home, my mother said to me, you must bathe your child. He's filthy. So I set it all up, got in the sink, got the little leaning board for him to be on. The towel, the soap, the washcloth, the secondary towel in case there's spillage. I'm all set up and I realize I am free, freaking out. I do not know how I'm going to do this. So as I turn on the water and place my son into the sink, this is a new experience for him and me. And I am trying desperately to do this all with one arm. So I take my prosthesis behind my back and I start trying to wash him and put the soap on the washcloth and rub him down. And he is starting to slide down deeper into this. And I feel like I can't pick him back up because my hand's now slippery and I'm trying to lift him up and he starts crying. And the one person he looks to for trust, the one heartbeat he heard for 10 months, is crying too. I was freaking out. I didn't know how to take care of my son because my arm was in the way. So I took off my arm, threw it on the ground and took care of my son. And in that moment, I was me with him. And it was one of the most beautiful connections I've ever dreamed of, of being a mother. And things since then have been great. He's three and for the most part I don't wear my arm in front of my son. So much so that if I put it on, he asks me, are we going out? And now I know as he goes into the world there will be questions and there will be times that he will have questions. And I know he'll look at other mothers and see things that I can't do. I can't play patty cake. I can't hold him with my fingers and lift him up into the air. And I know someday he'll look at those mothers that can do that and say, wow, I've never seen one like that before. Thank you.
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Jennifer Hickson
That was Mary Archbold. She's an actress, dancer, wife and mother of two. To see a picture of Mary with her husband and kids, go to themoth.org we'll also link to her website where you can watch her short film Jazz Hand. I asked Mary about that New York Times article. Did she ever write to correct them? She answered very simply, no way. If any of the stories today are conjuring up your story, please pitch us at 877-799-MOTH or online@themost.org we love hearing from you. We listen to every single pitch and you just might get a follow up call, work with a Moth director and end up here. That's it for this episode of the Moth Radio Hour. We hope you'll join us.
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Marco Huertas
Your host this hour was Jennifer Hickson. Jennifer also directed the stories in the show along with Larry Rosen. The rest of the Moss directorial staff includes Kathryn Burns, Sarah Haberman, Sarah Austin, Janess and Meg Bowles. Production support from Whitney Jones. Moth stories are true, as remembered and affirmed by the storytellers. Moth events are recorded by Argo Studios in New York City, supervised by Paul Ruest. Our theme music is by the Drift. Other music in this hour from the Transatlantics and Carla Kilstead and Dan Rathbun. You can find links to all the music we use at our website. The Moth Radio Hour is produced by me, Jay Allison with Vicki Merrick at Atlantic Public Media in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. This hour was produced with funds from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Endowment for the Arts, and the John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur foundation, committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. The Moth Radio Hour is presented by the public radio exchange prx.org for more about our podcast. For information on pitching your own story and everything else, go to our website themoth.org.
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Dan Kennedy
That'S it from the Moth Radio hour. Next week the Moth Podcast returns with our special Thanksgiving episode.
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Jesse Klein
And I remember I was standing in my parents bathroom on the right vanity looking at these bangs, just staring them down because I hated those bangs. I hated everything about them and now was the time when I was gonna take a stand.
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Dan Kennedy
We'll have that story. Plus we reached out to you on Twitter and Facebook again. We're gonna have a bunch of your most memorable Thanksgiving moments that you told us about right here on the Moth Podcast. Thanks to all of you guys for listening. We hope you have a story worthy week.
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Dan Kennedy
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