Justice is easy to talk about until you have to define what it looks like outside a courtroom. David sits down with author Daniel Mark Grace to wrestle with the questions true crime always circles: what do we mean when we call something evil, who carries the burden of judgment, and how does a society decide it has the right to take a human life?

We dig into the uncomfortable overlap of law and religion, especially in capital punishment cases where moral belief, legal precedent, and human emotion all show up in the same room. We talk about why criminal defense attorneys matter even when the crime is monstrous, and why “fair process” is a heavy promise for jurors, investigators, and families. Along the way, we challenge the urge to flatten violent crimes into simple narratives, because context is often the part that hurts to look at.

Grace also walks us through the ideas behind his novel In the Wake of Golgotha, a story that reimagines Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot in modern-day New York City. From Golgotha to Central Park, the book uses guilt, ambition, weakness, addiction, and a personified darkness to ask whether people are driven by fate or choice and whether anyone gets a second chance after an unforgivable act.

If you care about true crime storytelling, the death penalty debate, and the deeper psychology of good and evil, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show.

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