271: #271 The Yips, Madison Square Garden & The Emmy's

Summary

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The Nateland Podcast - Episode 271: The Yips, Madison Square Garden & The Emmys

Date: September 24, 2025
Hosts: Nate Bargatze, Brian Bates, Aaron Weber, Dusty Slay
Theme: Youth Sports, Live Shows, Navigating Fame, Comedy Craft, and More

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Episode Overview

This week, the Nateland crew reconvenes to share comedy road stories, dive deep into the world of youth sports (focusing on the pressures, costs, and quirks therein), and reflect on recent career milestones—including Nate’s Emmys hosting gig and his upcoming headlining shows at Madison Square Garden. Listener comments inspire tangents about home run balls, participation trophies, and why breaking in a baseball glove just isn’t what it used to be. Laced with signature dry humor, the group also discusses social anxieties, the dangers of arrogance in major sports leagues, and the tension between evolving with the times and honoring tradition.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedy Road Updates & Tour Announcements

Timestamps: 01:07–05:07, 116:03–118:25

• Upcoming Shows & Specials:
  • Nate is about to headline Madison Square Garden with special guest Jimmy Fallon—“That’s crazy. Three shows at Madison Square Garden with special guest Jimmy Fallon. A pretty crazy guy to open your show.” (04:07, Aaron)
  • Dusty plugs his animated Alphabet joke video (“It’s a 10-year-old joke, but I got it animated...not for your kids, but it’s... good though.” 02:16–02:34)
  • Brian and Aaron announce their own tour dates, poking fun at plugging shows before Nate joins (“I’ve pushed for dates at the beginning of the show, think that’s to be the most effective for us.” 04:44, Dusty)
• Fun on the Road:
  • Weekend stories from church gigs to Phoenix and Denver stand-up, recounting both great crowds and unruly audience encounters.
  • On handling hecklers: “So I just yelled at the back of his head for like 15 minutes. I got some funny moments out of it, but I was pretty annoyed.” (18:29, Aaron)

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2. Listener Interaction: Comments & Community

Timestamps: 14:50–41:10

• Shout-outs to listeners catching up on all 269 episodes (“Well, welcome aboard, Andrea... That’s all 269 episodes.” 15:26)
• Self-deprecating humor about recurring listeners’ inside jokes (e.g. “Hashtag Dump Dusty”) and discussion of hostility (15:47–16:48)
• Ongoing riffs about fan favorites among hosts and the eyebrow appreciation society (“This is already the most I’ve ever thought about my eyebrows.” 18:05, Aaron)
• Touches of vulnerability about harsh comments and persistent internet bits (“Not only is he constant, but he’s also a pile on guy...” 16:13, Dusty)

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3. Milestones & Memorable Moments

a. Giving Back the Mike Trout 400th Home Run Ball

Timestamps: 08:44–10:56

• Aaron discusses the fan who caught Mike Trout’s 400th home run ball and chose to play catch with Trout rather than sell the ball.
• “Don’t sell your soul for just some money. Go play catch with Mike Trout.” (10:02, Dusty)
• The ethics of sports memorabilia and valuing once-in-a-lifetime experiences over money.

b. The Emmys Experience

Timestamps: 23:53–25:49, 99:06–115:59

• Nate returns from hosting the Emmys: modest, bemused, a bit outside the Hollywood crowd.
  • “It was like I wasn’t a part of it. Even though I was hosting it. I just wasn’t mixed in...” (106:45, Nate)
• The focus on the Boys & Girls Club “overage donation” segment:
  • “I wasn’t trying to put anybody on the spot...I thought it would be fun... a win-win. I just thought they could go long, but then be a hero.” (109:27, Nate)
  • “That was a huge win for myself, career-wise. And that is a big, big thank you to you guys because that stuff does matter… you guys showing up helps me.” (108:05, Nate)
• Host humility & the path from “outsider” to mainstream awards show host.

c. Upcoming at Madison Square Garden

Timestamps: 99:06–104:57

• Brian peppers Nate with fun facts (the arena is atop Penn Station, round locker rooms foster egalitarianism, Billy Joel’s record performances).
• Nate: “It’s gonna be crazy. I’ll be at the Ryder Cup too… it’s all insane.”

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4. Deep Dive: Youth Sports, Pressure, Costs & Culture

Timestamps: 47:45–99:03

• The psychological pressure on coaches:
  • “I had a coach pitch one time for my son’s team… I was beaming batters and throwing them all 10ft in the ground… It was the most shameful experience of my life. I played a lot of baseball growing up… just the pressure of the situation.” (48:45, listener)
  • “Dude, when you get the yips, you ain’t coming back from the yips.” (51:30, Nate)
  • Brian shares the story of Tyler Matzek from the Braves, who overcame the yips by training with Marines (52:27)
• Travel ball and rising costs:
  • “A combined 145 games. This year we’re on track to the same…” (55:48, listener)
  • “The average family in the US spends a thousand, a little bit over a thousand dollars a year on their child’s primary sport.” (63:50, Brian)
  • Bat and glove price horrors (“I want to say it was like 500 for some of them.” 67:34, Nate)
• Burnout and quitting:
  • “The average child spends less than three years playing a sport, quitting by age 11.” (68:24, Brian)
• Scholarship realities:
  • “If your daughter can play golf… she’ll get a scholarship.” (84:14, Nate)
  • “Kenny was a cheerleader, male cheerleader. We made fun of him...but yeah, he did.” (84:36, Nate)
• Debate: Specialize vs. Sample Many Sports?
  • “I would say play multiple...You’re gonna burn out that way [if you specialize too soon].” (87:11, Nate)
  • “You’re more likely to have an injury doing the same repetition year round than playing other sports using different muscles.” (87:59, Brian)
  • “If you’re good enough to make it to the professional league, you’re on such another level that… you could have played college basketball if you sat on your couch.” (90:29, Nate)

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5. Participation Trophies, Club/Travel Sports, and New Trends

Timestamps: 94:00–98:57

• General consensus that participation trophies are harmless if you help your kids understand their real value:
  • “You teach your kid not to value trophies that much...Yeah, you give them a little thing to put [on the shelf].” (94:08, Brian)
  • “...The idea of participation trophies. Like, you do know. You know, if your kid doesn’t know what that trophy is, that’s on you.” (94:55, Nate)
• Observations on club/travel leagues' growth and the shift in how youth sports are organized.

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6. Major Sports Leagues: Evolution, Arrogance, and the Future

Timestamps: 77:38–83:56

• The hosts discuss the NFL’s global ambitions, rising costs and fragmentation of broadcast rights, and whether the NBA/MLB have become complacent.
  • “They got to be careful because this could be the beginning of the end...You start spreading out too much, then people are not really going to have a connection.” (78:51, Nate)
  • “Yeah, you went all in. I thought it was. You figured you went all in, but…” [On stadium food costs] (82:33, Nate)
  • Concerns over the accessibility and relatability of big-league sports in the future.

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Notable Quotes & Highlights

• On Stand-Up Craft:

  • “I just was never a comic that did. I was never comic that went over my time ever… I always did. How much time do you want me to do? And I did that time.” (25:49, Nate)
  • “It’s the rhythm. I know that’s an hour 80. I don’t know.” (26:09, Nate – jokingly muddling time and set length)
  • “If you’re a new comic, just get off and just—bam. Make sure that last joke is just good night.” (32:28, Nate)
  • “I love seeing a newer comic try to—‘I’m just trying to get that big laugh to get off’. And then you’re like, it’s never coming. Just get out of here.” (33:19, Dusty)

• On Social Anxiety:

  • “I pretended I was on a phone call with all of you as I listened to your podcast. I laughed when you guys did. And I interjected some very funny comments which were entirely ignored.” (41:13, listener)
  • “Sometimes you just want to stare. Like a lot going on.” (42:22, Nate)

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Segment Timestamps Guide

• 01:07–05:07: Show dates, road stories, Alphabet joke
• 08:44–10:56: Mike Trout 400th HR ball anecdote
• 14:50–41:10: Listener comments and banter
• 47:45–99:03: The Yips, youth sports, costs, travel ball
• 99:06–104:57: Madison Square Garden history/facts, Emmys experiences
• 108:05–115:59: Emmys hosting charity segment reflection
• 116:03–118:25: Tour plug wrap-up

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Memorable Moments

• The "Yips" in Real Life: The hosts and listeners relive the humiliation and psychological spiral of “the yips” in youth baseball and the perils of coaching your own five-year-old’s team.
• Sports Costs Are Outrageous: Multiple hosts recall the shock of modern equipment prices and exorbitant stadium concessions (“Two hamburgers and two Tater Tots at the Rockies game. It was $60 this week.” 81:51, Brian)
• Award Show Reflections: Nate’s honesty about “not being part of it” at the Emmys, the viral impact of viewing numbers, and the creative charity angle that drew mixed reactions (“It was funny like because there was a lot it would say, like, the controversial way… My only controversial thing is the Boys and Girls Clubs got 350k and you go, you’re right. That was not ideal.” 113:10, Nate)
• Friendship & Relatable Bonds: Despite career heights and viral moments, the podcast remains grounded, focusing on the feeling of being both insiders and outsiders—at Hollywood galas and in youth sport dugouts.

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Tone & Flavor

The episode lands with all the classic Nateland ingredients: humble, meandering storytelling; genuine gratitude for their listeners (“You guys showing up helps me…” 108:05, Nate); and quick-witted, low-key comedy digs at each other and the many absurdities of American life. They remain relatable and “regular,” finding through lines between the pressure of pitching your kid at coach pitch and hosting the Emmys on national TV.

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For more, follow the Nateland gang’s stand-up and watch Nate’s animated special “The Alphabet” and Ryan Hamilton’s Netflix special. Join the ongoing conversation with comments and check out future episodes for even deeper dives on comedy, sports, and everything in-between.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Folks and hey Bear. Welcome into another thrilling edition of the Nate Land Podcast. Obviously, I am Aaron Weber alongside my co hosts, my friends, my compadres, my compatriots, my fellow warriors in the battle to. It's Brian Bates to my right.

[C]

Hello. Lost.

[B]

Lost all the energy I had when I started that sentence about halfway through. But Dusty Slay is to my left. Okay, Napergetzi will be joining us very shortly, but we are gonna kick things off before we get right into it. Thank you for listening. Settle in, grab a chair, you know, pour yourself a drink, turn the volume up. We got a lot going on. It's going to be a great episode. A couple things I want to tell you about a lot happening in Nateland. Nateland presents the Showcase. Season three is in full swing. The episodes have been doing great. We got an amazing, amazing addition to that coming out this weekend. Tim Convey.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Who you might know from the Consumers podcast right here on the Naatland Network. Tim. Showcase set premieres this Friday, morning, September 26. We also want to remind you about Ryan Hamilton's Netflix special which is being taped October 4th at the Neptune Theater in Seattle, Washington. They got two shows, still some tickets left. Make sure you check that out. Also, while you're clicking around YouTube, go over to Dusty's thing. He's got a new video, an animated video that he just had created and put out for one of his. To me, one of your legendary old bits.

[A]

It's a 10 year old joke, but I got it animated, the letters of the Alphabet. And yeah, I mean, it's not, you know, it's not for your kids, but it's, it's.

[C]

This is.

[B]

This is Dusty from 10 years ago.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not, it's not crazy. It's not crazy.

[B]

It's about the Alphabet.

[A]

Yeah, it's good though.

[C]

It's good.

[A]

I put it out. It's out, you know, today's Wednesday. It came out Monday. But that's such a. To get some views on it.

[B]

Like I don't know the word for it. There's so many moving pieces for that joke. Do you think you could do that joke again if you had to or.

[A]

Well, that's the thing I thought about re recording it, but it's. I just don't want to do it again. I did it a few times, and it's like the reason I put it on that album is because I don't want the joke to be lost.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I don't want it to be like, oh, I used to have this bit. I want it to be recorded, but I never want to do it again. But, you know, the audio itself, you know, it has like 100,000 views on YouTube. But I thought if I could really get some video behind it, maybe it would, you know, bump it up and get it some love and, you know, I don't know. I just put it out right now, so I don't know how it's doing, but.

[D]

But just the audio version has 100,000.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Views on YouTube.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's amazing.

[D]

What are they viewing?

[A]

They just. Well, on YouTube, you can just click and it's like the picture of the album cover. You can just hear the bit.

[B]

Yeah. So go check that out. It's really a great joke. I think about it. I think about it often.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

When I see letters.

[D]

What's the album cover?

[A]

It's older.

[B]

Picture of me making that fudge.

[A]

Mixing up.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Short hair.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I may go back to that look. I'd actually like to go back to the look where I slicked my hair back.

[B]

I don't think you should.

[D]

I think you should go to that look.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Blonde hair, slim shady look. Experiment around with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Also, we're going to talk about our weekends here in a second, but I do want to say Nate has a full weekend of big dumb. My shows coming up in Hollywood, Florida, and the world's most famous arena, Madison Square Garden. That's this weekend. That's crazy. Three shows at Madison Square Garden with special guest Jimmy Fallon. A pretty crazy guy. To open your show.

[D]

I got some Madison Square Garden fun facts I'm going to share.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I bet Nate won't care, but Hartford.

[A]

I'll be at the Hartford, Connecticut funny bone next weekend. I could use some boost in sales there. Just thought I'd get that out.

[B]

All right, we're doing that now. I'm going to be at the Helium in Atlanta.

[A]

I've pushed for dates at the beginning of the show because I think that's to be the most effective for us.

[B]

It's definitely the most effective of you if you're the only one who does it and squeezes it in. I'd like to do it, too. Should we do it right now before Nate gets in.

[A]

I already did it.

[C]

I mean, I already did it.

[B]

You're like, I'm good, actually. Y' all do whatever you want. Go see Dusty at the Harford Funny Band. What's been going on, Brian? How you doing, man?

[D]

I'm good. How's your weekend? I just got back from Perigal, Arkansas, at the First United Methodist Church. Hot show. Last night wasn't just for church members. It was for the community. So anybody. A lot of folks came out. It's gonna make a joke, but Nate's out here. A lot of folks from Little Rock came over. Does that. Nate was in Little Rock last night.

[B]

Were there people from Little Rock?

[D]

No, but I was gonna say there was because they just wanted a more authentic show, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But anyway, it really was great. A lot of. A lot of folks came, and it was fun, and I had a great time. Definitely drove a route that I've never driven before.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How do you get to Paragle?

[D]

It is kind of on the Cor. The Missouri, Arkansas.

[B]

Oh, so it's out there.

[D]

So you go to Jackson, Tennessee, and then you just start going northwest.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So.

[C]

All right.

[D]

There's no easy way to get there.

[B]

Yeah. Paragould right there by Jonesboro.

[D]

Not far. Right next to the home of Cheryl Crow. Had a big sign that said hometown of Sheryl Crowe, her childhood home. Childhood home, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. She didn't stick around.

[D]

I don't know how long she stayed there.

[B]

She stuck around.

[D]

But the town won over. That was their claim. Fame, at least on their signs.

[B]

I was going to say both of you have a decent chance of there one day being a sign. Like when you enter your hometown city where it says the home of.

[A]

In my.

[B]

You already have the keys to the city, Dustin. You're pretty close.

[A]

They took. They had. We. I guess we had a Miss America or at least a Miss America contestant.

[C]

She was.

[D]

You know, she was Miss Alabama.

[A]

Yeah, I. But she might have won Miss America, and they had her name on the. On the city limit sign. But she had some controversial remarks recently.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So they took her name down. So I was thinking. I wanted to comment. Hey, there's some room now, guys.

[B]

If that just happened, I don't think they're taking a chance on you.

[D]

They're like, we need to take a break.

[A]

I think they'll be into my controversy.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Lebanon. You got a good shot in Lebanon, man.

[D]

Yeah, I got.

[B]

Coming out of Lebanon.

[D]

You know, we've had a couple of guys just the last three Years. Get drafted. NFL.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Land on the moon or something.

[D]

Recently you had a guy land on the moon in Opelika?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, not. I'm sorry, not land on the moon. An astronaut. You had astronaut from opa?

[C]

Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

The guy you're talking about is from Mount Juliet.

[B]

Right, Right.

[D]

Butch Will, More Lebanon. You know, the signs. I don't know if it still says that, but it did for a while. Home of the NAI national champion baseball team, Cumberland Bulldogs.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Cin dominated for years in college baseball in the NAI level.

[B]

Oh, all right.

[D]

Yeah. So that's. That's one of our claims to fame.

[B]

So you're not getting up there, huh?

[D]

Well, they're. They're not quite as dominant as they used to be, so. Yeah, I think I could get on there. Just trying to think who else. There's not some rapper named Haystack.

[B]

I know. Hey, Stack.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Well, that's holding you back.

[D]

I guess he grew up in Lebanon or something. Coco Jones.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Coco.

[D]

She's a country singer, I think. Okay. She grew up in Lebanon.

[C]

All right.

[B]

So that's a harder list to crack than I thought it was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's too close to Nashville to not have.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Some stuff happen.

[D]

Yeah. Like Mount Juliet. Charlie Daniels lived there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They already got parks named after.

[C]

Yeah, everything.

[A]

It's a good park, the Charlie Daniels Play Park.

[B]

It is pretty good park.

[A]

I go there with my kids sometimes. It's a good park.

[D]

Mm. So that. That was my weekend. I was in Perigle.

[C]

I.

[B]

All right. I was in Phoenix, Arizona, this weekend. Shout out to the Desert Ridge Improv. Great weekend of shows there. Then I went to Denver, Colorado, last night. Two shows at Comedy Works. It was just an unbelievable weekend. Thank you to everybody. Came out Jay Flake, who everybody seemed to love on the. On the podcast last week. He was out with me, and people were very nice to him, and it was just. Just a fun, fun weekend. I swung by and saw the Los Angeles Angels play the Colorado Rockies for a little bit. I was going to ask the two of your opinion on this. Mike Trout, who's widely considered one of the greatest baseball players of all time, hit his 400th home run this weekend, and the guy that caught the ball decided, I want Mike Trout to have the ball in exchange for the ball. You know, they gave him some autograph bats and stuff like that, but he said, I want to play catch with Mike Trout on the field.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And he went out there and Mike Trout did it, and everybody's so divided. People are going, you should have kept it and sold it. You're kind of crazy for not doing that.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And then some people are like, this is the coolest exchange that I've seen from a fan. Like, now you get to tell your kids you played catch with Mike Trout.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

On a major league baseball field. I thought it was awesome.

[A]

I like it too. Don't sell your soul for just some money. Go play catch with Mike Trout.

[D]

Did you see an estimate on what it might have sold for?

[C]

No.

[B]

I mean, nobody knows. The numbers are. He's probably not going to get to 500 just because he keeps getting injured and he's a little older.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So this might be the last milestone ball for one of the greatest baseball players ever. But it's not going to be six figures. Maybe.

[D]

Okay, maybe I was going to say it's not going to be life changing, money. I mean, life changing, but not the point. You're going to retire.

[B]

Exactly. It's not a million dollar ball.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think.

[D]

Yeah. I don't have a problem with. I'm sorry. Destiny.

[A]

And give the ball back to the guy. I mean, it's 400th home run. I love that.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I said a couple weeks ago that I would not necessarily give a home run ball to a kid. That would be an example of one. I would not. I would. I mean, kids, number three of those options to me.

[B]

Yeah. If it's an actual meaningful ball.

[A]

Way down three.

[D]

All right, sell it. Mike Trout. What's. What's your third option, Dustin?

[A]

Give it to a girl you have a crush on.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

You know, give it to. I would give it to your friend at work. Anybody but some kid I'd give it to.

[D]

Philly's Karen.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

She's been going through a hard time. I was like, here's you another one.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

Huh. That's interesting. I thought you were gonna say you caught the ball.

[B]

No, dude, I would. No, you would have heard about it before. Before then. I'm telling you, man, that would have been crazy. We weren't at that game. We came the next day.

[D]

Gotcha. But on the Black and Mile tour.

[B]

On the Black and Mile tour. That's right. Somebody brought a Black and Mile. We signed the box. Somebody brought it to the show. So thank you to everybody. Came out in Phoenix and Denver. Those are two. Two of my favorite cities. Two of my favorite clubs. It was. It was a great weekend.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

About you, Dusty, where we got.

[A]

I went to Reading, Pennsylvania or Reading, Pa. As I. As they say, and Wilkes Barry Pa. Which apparently, in Wilkes Barry, there's a bit of a controversy on how you actually pronounce it.

[D]

Okay, I was about to correct you, but go ahead.

[A]

Because they say. Some people say Wilkes Bar. Some people say it's a French guy, and it's Wilkes bar. Oh, and. But they had a shirt they gave me, and it said, you know, it says not Wilks. And then it had, like, a crowbar and not Wilkes. Like a bear.

[D]

Huh.

[A]

And then it said it's Wilkes, and then it had a berry.

[D]

All right, that's interesting, because we got comments saying it's pronounced like bear.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, there is a. Seems to be a bit of controversy even amongst people I talk to there on how to pronounce it. All right, so I don't know, but the show was fun. I had a lot of fun. Me and my buddy Derek Humphrey, and we had a great time. Derek has a special out on YouTube that he put out a little while back. It's called Late Bloomer. Very funny. Not a clean comic, but he worked clean for me. And a very funny guy. We started comedy together, and so it's fun to hang with my buddy that we started comedy with and cruise around and see a little bit of Pennsylvania pa. Yeah, it's a bad digestion weekend for me, so I didn't eat any exciting food. Basically didn't eat the entire day on Saturday.

[D]

So what brought that on?

[A]

I don't know. Life? I don't know. Yeah, just, you know, just, you know, just constant torture of my stomach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

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[B]

Good to be back. Good to see both of you guys man.

[D]

You as well.

[B]

What do you think? You want to hop in?

[D]

Yeah, let's get into it.

[B]

Started with these comments. Comments come from, as Always, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Apple Podcast reviews, and Nate land@nate bargetzi.com first comment comes from Andrea Hunt. Andrea, I think Andrea Hunt. Today is finally the day after binging every single moment of 269 Nate land pods, all caught up and ready for episode 270 on release day. Well, welcome aboard, Andrea. Welcome. It's Wednesday. You're listening in real time. We're happy to have you aboard. That's all 269 episodes.

[A]

Wow, that's big time.

[B]

So you hate us by now.

[A]

You really did it, Andrea. Way to go.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think.

[B]

Couple of those were slogs, huh?

[D]

You know, TV shows, obviously if it's a few seasons in, you want to start the beginning to see the thing, but I don't think I would ever thought with a podcast I need to start at episode one. But people do.

[A]

Well, you got to get all the inside, Joe.

[B]

It makes me think maybe we're too self referential sometimes.

[A]

You know, I mean, yeah, you got to know why a guy, even after 170 episodes still says hashtag dump dusty. You gotta know why.

[D]

I think they could see one episode, know that.

[A]

Why a guy is that committed to the bit. I think he actually really hates me, to be honest with you.

[B]

That guy.

[A]

No, I think he's. Yeah, I think he does because sometimes I'll see where people really comment, they really say negative things about me and then he'll, he'll jump in, hashtag, dump Dusty. He's also, not only is he constant, but he's also a pile on guy.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

He goes, oh, here's a person that's saying something really deep and personal to him. Let me pile on with a hashtag dump Dusty.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that makes me feel good.

[B]

Well, it hasn't been trending yet. So the hashtag's not catching on.

[A]

No, no. I mean he's, you know, probably a loser, but we don't Even know if it's a he.

[B]

That's for sure.

[A]

I think so.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's got to be a guy.

[D]

You would think so. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Joe Foosh Jr. What a name. Fooshball.

[A]

Foosh Bag.

[B]

Joe Foosh Jr. I just found this podcast a week or two ago. I can't get enough. I've always been a Nate and Dusty fan. Oh, geez. Since I saw him on their seasons of the standups, But I had no idea they would be this funny at podcasting.

[A]

To.

[B]

Keep it up, guys. P.S. aaron is my favorite. He's so funny. All right. Yeah, this guy's great.

[A]

Well, I was going to apologize about the joke I made after that message, but then you got to the end, and I go, how do you think I feel? Yeah, I know.

[C]

True.

[D]

You know who my favorite is? Joe Fush Senior. I'm a big Joe fan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's really nice. Kyler Morrison. Aaron, I saw you at the Desert Ridge Improv this weekend, and you absolutely crushed. Thank you, Kyler. I can tell which show you were not at. I was first row laughing my head off, but kept getting distracted by how nice your eyebrows are. Do you get them sculpted by a professional?

[D]

Can we zoom in here?

[B]

No.

[D]

Let's get a tight shot.

[B]

I'll tell you what, Kyler. This is already the most I've ever thought about my eyebrows, so I've never had them. I've never had anything professionally done on my face. I don't.

[D]

Except they do look good.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, thanks, I guess.

[D]

It's like Seinfeld when.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

I've always said, he's an eyebrow man.

[B]

How's the rest of the face? But the eyebrows really draw you in.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Take a look at those eyebrows.

[B]

I had a wild. I had to. I had to yell at this couple in Phoenix.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I'll show y' all the video off air because this, the Phoenix Club is very cool. They. The video is in your email inbox by the time you get back to the green room.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

They send it to you that quickly? Now, the crowd is not miked, so you look kind of insane. Especially like in my video where I'm just yelling at nobody, but. But probably about a 15 minute interaction with a couple, really, that just would not stop talking. And it became like the guy could clearly hear me. There's only, like, 60 people there, and he just would not turn around and stop talking. So I just yelled at the back of his head for, like, 15 minutes. I got some funny moments out of it, but I was pretty annoyed.

[D]

I would hope so. Out of 15 minutes.

[B]

Pretty annoying.

[D]

I got a couple good ones.

[A]

Not the same club, but, you know, we had that incident in Phoenix.

[B]

I brought it up immediately. I go, it's something about the heat in Phoenix that just brings the dry heat. It brings out the worst in people.

[D]

Enough.

[B]

You need a wet heat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To keep you in trouble.

[A]

I mean, we had a really terrible show because people were just hammered.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And would not stop talking.

[D]

But some of your incidents have also been Phoenix, yelling, enough. Now this. Maybe the heat's getting to you. Think about that.

[B]

But the enough thing. I was doing the right things.

[A]

This is still him. But he's in the audience now, able to tackle the rowdy audience members.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy. Then at the end, he's like, we're on a first date. And I go, well, if you go on a second one, promise me you won't go to another comedy show.

[A]

Yeah. Or maybe. Yeah. I mean, who cares about your date? This night's not about you. Go somewhere else.

[B]

One of those. The woman started yelling stuff at me that didn't even make sense. She. Once it became she. They eventually turned around. She was like, you got.

[D]

You got yours.

[B]

I'm gonna get mine. I don't even know your time. What does this even mean anything?

[A]

It's like, just leave.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't. I don't care.

[C]

Get out.

[A]

Get yours, but get out.

[B]

I was like, I got 10 minutes left in the show. Just leave. I'd like to have 10 minutes without y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

We're on a first date. It's like, okay. Well, you guys seem like nightmares.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Perfect for each other.

[B]

They were so annoying to me. But then, you know, like, I'm talking to people after the show, and everybody's like, man, that was the funniest part of the show is you do.

[A]

And we're like, oh, see, I hate that too. Because I go, oh, you mean you like that better than these jokes I've been working on and crafting for the last but year and a half?

[B]

I'll give it to him. Nothing's funnier than the moment. Like, if things. If this thing's happening right in front of them, then it's fun that it's right. You know what I mean?

[A]

I guess I get it now. I get it too.

[B]

But they were just trying to be nice.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm overthinking a compliment, but thank you to everybody. Came out in Phoenix. I'll be back with my eyebrows. Dan Spargo, Nateland is in Nashville. Where might Nate World be located?

[D]

Let's think about that.

[A]

I mean, Tennessee.

[D]

Just keep it close. Yeah, Old Hickory.

[A]

I don't understand the question.

[D]

All right, there's Disneyland and Disney World.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, what's our sister city?

[D]

Okay, Well, I don't even know. It has to be sister city. Just another good place to have, say, Austin.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Go do kill Tony and Nateland. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't. I don't know. Where would Nate World be?

[B]

I don't know. What's the difference? Aren't they essentially the same park?

[D]

I have not been to Disneyland.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I've only been to Disney World, so I guess I couldn't say for certain.

[C]

And did.

[B]

Did it come up on this podcast? That land. La la. Yeah, World orl Orlando. That's how you can tell the difference. Do you know that I had no idea because that was always mixed up, which was.

[A]

I always thought it was fun to me, that land. Because world seems bigger than land. And so world was in the south and land was in California. That always felt good to me. I go, we got the, you know.

[C]

We got the big one.

[B]

Take that, California.

[A]

I know it's like. But that's. When I was a kid, I remember thinking that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Diana Hartwig, Dusty saying the super bowl halftime show is too long while also saying he wants to do a two hour set is real comedy.

[D]

Well, point, Diana?

[A]

Well, I mean, you know, yeah, I guess. But it's like the halftime show, halftime's normally what, 15 minutes, and then for the Super bowl it's 30, so it's too long. You double. I mean, the whole.

[D]

A set's usually an hour and you want to do two.

[A]

But who says it's an hour?

[D]

Well, who says halftime show. Halftime's 15 minutes?

[A]

Well, the rest of the season says.

[D]

Well, the rest is stand up comedy. We do an hour.

[A]

But that's what I'm saying. Who says that, though?

[D]

Who says that? In the NFL, somebody comes up with a standard and that's what it is. And you want to double it.

[A]

No, but that's what I'm saying.

[B]

You're getting beat right now, just so you know.

[A]

But a lot of comics do 45 minutes.

[D]

Yeah, new Orleans, but. And over.

[A]

I mean, over time, I think it's debatable.

[D]

Overtime does not necessarily make it better.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

That's the concession of a man who knows he's losing the argument.

[C]

Statement right there.

[B]

Well, you just go, it's debatable.

[A]

Then you're just saying with the. With the NFL, they at least say halftime is 15 minutes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

With. With an hour, you're saying, well, that's what we. We.

[B]

None of it's real. It's all made.

[A]

We've kind of decided on our own.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome into the Nateland podcast.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nate Bargetsy back with us, fresh off the Emmys. Happy to have you back, dude. What's going on?

[C]

Thanks, man.

[B]

I'll let you take over and chilling out.

[C]

Yeah. What were y' all just talking about? I don't know.

[D]

I was debating.

[C]

I don't think. Well, I'll never listen. I wouldn't worry about it.

[A]

It's the last comment. Diana Hartwig.

[B]

Actually, you would like it because it's critiquing the amount of time Dusty does on stage.

[C]

Oh, Diane. Dusty's saying the super wall of time is too long, while also he wants to have a two hour set. Is real comedy. That is funny. Yeah.

[A]

And I'm saying that it ruined I. My comment last week.

[C]

You're the football game.

[A]

Well, it.

[C]

Yes, you're that football.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

This is the middle of the football.

[D]

But he also said that overtime does not make it better.

[A]

Well, I'm saying that a game is not necessarily interesting just because it went to over.

[B]

And a show is not necessarily better if it's longer.

[A]

Well, I agree with that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But a good show that keeps going.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Did you set a new record this weekend?

[A]

No, I didn't.

[C]

Didn't.

[B]

Oh, that's too bad.

[C]

Ran out of steam.

[A]

Well, I actually, I did. And I don't know that anybody else felt it, but to me, in my last show in Wilkes Barry, I was like, I feel like I can end this.

[C]

Yeah. Some. You can feel it when you're just like, that's enough.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I. You can always tell when you're just like, we. Because especially when I was in. When you're in clubs and then they don't know you, you could go like, you did 45 minutes. You're like, they wanted 40, so. Yeah, I did five more than they wanted. Yeah. You can just tell that Everybody's kind of like, all right, let's kind of wrap it up.

[A]

Well, that's what I felt like. I felt like I did five minutes too long. That's exactly what I felt like. I go, if I had cut that little bit, then my whole closing bit would have been better.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. We're opposite. I mean, I can't. I'm a 60 guy. I just stay. It doesn't matter. I feel like I could. I could have an. An hour 80 of material and I still would get to 60. It's like, it's just the rhythm. I know that's hour 80. I don't know.

[B]

I started saying two hours and 20 minutes.

[D]

I think he means 180 minutes.

[C]

I think I'm in 180 minutes.

[D]

Three hours.

[C]

An hour already.

[D]

Yeah, he's.

[B]

Three hours.

[C]

Three hours. Two hours. Three hours. I could have all of it, but it's like in my, in my head, it's like I'm just like. It's, it's, you know, it's really the audience. So it's like a timing, like, it's the, the, the. Them, they. They decide the time almost like the rhythm and, and just.

[A]

So you're also doing a bit of a longer show before, too, Right. Like the comics before doing. So it's still a long, full show.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. But I, I just was never a comic that did. I was never comic that went over my time ever. So even if I did eight minutes, I never went over. I know sometimes here when I pop on, I'll go longer than I can say, but it's like now it's like, Well, I. I don't know what to tell you. Like, that's reason I'm popping on is because I don't know. Yeah. But. Yeah, when I. I always did. How much time do you want me to do? And I did that time. I never is like, show me the light. What do you want me to get off? If you're doing 45, I'm doing 45. Like, it just never. I never was a it, you know, could be not for the best. Maybe I should have learned it, like, the same way I was never a crowd work guy. Like, I don't spin off a ton up there. It happens, but it's not a lot. And it's rare. And I never count on it. I never plan for it. And it's just a pleasant surprise if it happens. Yeah, but it's. I'm never gonna. I. I'm very prepared, very prepared. I know exactly where we're going and what's happening and it's the order. And I've thought very, you know, so I've just never been able to, like, if I go up there without a preparation, I couldn't go up there and just. It would be terrible.

[A]

I can't go up without preparation. But, yeah, I get a little distracted. A lot sneezing and coughing going on at my show, and it felt like, someone sneezed into someone's head and it made them cough. And I was like, what's going on out here? Are you guys sick?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's. Yeah. I could never just. I, like, I. I gotta know where I. Even when I tell a joke, I gotta know how to get out of the joke. I don't. Good. Trying to just find it, like, or whatever, you know? So that's just. But I mean that. It's just the way I started.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[C]

You know, I think comics can go up and free flow a bit more. And I think I've tried to even work on it. I still think about working on it now. Then I'm like, I'm just already in too deep.

[A]

Yeah, you're also doing, like.

[B]

You're in Madison Square Gardens two shows.

[A]

A night a lot of times. Right. So I'm doing one show. So I'm like, I want to do all my jokes.

[C]

That's where I've never had more than. The jokes I have are what you hear on stage. I do not have other jokes. I do a lot of comics that did.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Where they would go. If you did a comedy club and then you went to the alt room.

[B]

After, did the open mic and they.

[C]

Would, like, do it and did the open mic, they'd be like, well, I'm gonna work on some other stuff. I never have other stuff. What I. The comedy I have is what's on the table then. So it's just. I'm using all of it, and then when it's done, I go grab a new thing of tape. And yeah, there's some jokes that could maybe hang on that maybe wouldn't have made this special. So you could have a couple hanger honors that I find somewhere else. But in general, I'm never what you see on stage. There's not a 10 minutes on the side that's just like, well, if I can get to it. I just don't think I write like that. Yeah, my. Because I don't write. I just, like, you know, I just kind of think about it all day and put it. I mean, I was thinking about it this morning. Think about opening with another joke that I moved to the back. And now I think I want to go open with it again. And so then I'm like, Then I start thinking about that, and how could I. How does it get into it? And it's almost like you're not thinking of the actual joke, but the flow. Right now I'm thinking of the flow. And so it's like, all right, I'm just moving. Like, when I start doing the hour, it's like I start moving pieces.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So then if I'm like, ah, it feels weird here in the middle. Well, you know, just. You can't always. I don't want to drop it, but I got to move it. And you're like, well, where does it move? I think this is gonna have to move to the front, because there's not really a place for it. And so I'll have to just maybe open with it. And then, you know. But then everything kind of moves back, and you got to piece it. And then you're like, all right, can I move this chunk? You know, that's the fun.

[A]

I opened with a chunk that was, like, way in the back of my set, and I feel like it threw my whole thing off.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, I'm gonna try opening with this instead of this other thing that I've been doing. And it was fine, but in my head, it messed me up.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I was like, what am I even doing?

[C]

It can mess you up, but it's good to do that, because then you have to have. You got to build other jokes to be a closer. Because the hard part is when you're like, all right, I've got to be able to close on this. And so, like, I have. The closer I have now is the closer. But, I mean, if I didn't have it, the joke I have before, it, I could close on. But it's like, I don't even deliver it as a closer because I don't have to close on it. If I did, I. It would. It would. It would end much differently.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I can, Like, I have a little tag on it at the end. That's like, not the biggest laugh in the world, just something. And I would have to just get out, you know, Especially if I was closing on it. So you just go. But because it's not closing, I can kind of. I. I get a. Kind of tag this closer, which normally I wouldn't get to because I would need to get off.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so you gotta. Yeah, you gotta be able to get off. You just want to get off, and it's just. Boom.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I just. That school. That's. If you're a new comic, just get off and just. Bam. Make sure that last joke is just good night. You're an easy way to get out. That's the. I think sometimes people get where they end on a. All right. I guess that's all, you know. Kind of ends on, like a weird.

[A]

Or doing these Q&As that people were doing at the end. It's like, how you gonna end the show and then go, all right, what about.

[C]

Well, because they don't have a closer.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

So you. So then their Q A becomes the closer. So then they're just. All they're doing is searching for the biggest laugh in that situation so that that Q A lasts longer or shorter. Depends if they get something early. They can go, that's enough. All right, we'll see. But all they need is a pop. And like, you know, how can I make fun of someone? How can I make the room like, you know, that's a cool.

[A]

I love seeing a newer comic try to, like. They go, I'm just trying to get that big laugh to get off. And then you're like, it's never coming.

[C]

Yeah. Just get out of here.

[A]

Yeah, it's never coming.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And when you're young, it's not there. It's like. But still do have your. Save the best thing you got for the end.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Do something like, it's, you know, at the beginning, it might be just making fun that you're terrible. You know, I know I'm terrible, but I gotta go. And, you know, whatever it is, have it. You don't want to rely on. Realize that you're. It's a band Aid. And you actually. It needs to be an actual joke. It doesn't need to be a situation in the room. It needs to be your act. But that's why your clothes are so important. And that's why you got to have a closer in a five minute set. The same way you do in a hour set.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Gotta have a joke to get off of.

[B]

Or an hour 80 set.

[C]

Hour 87.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If you're up there doing that, let us know when you get to that.

[A]

Yeah. Hour 80. Yeah.

[C]

You might have a. You probably have a intermission.

[A]

Yeah. And maybe I would get a halftime.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Suggests.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. What do you think the halftime. Someone comes out and talks serious.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. Reads a book.

[C]

Reads a book.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Someone not having a good time.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe someone comes out and complains about stuff going on in the lobby.

[B]

It's just you with a wig on.

[C]

You could do. Well, it'd be funny if you go do an intermission and then you go out in the lobby with them and you go. And y' all just all. You're eating popcorn. And then you're like, all right, I think I'M ready, y'. All. They all come back in together.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

And it's like a. Your. Your crowd is just like. You know, they get a full Dusty. Yeah. They sign up to go to Dusty Town, and they get dusty like popcorn.

[A]

It's in my beer. It's on my shirt. It's all around my feet.

[C]

It's more personal than your an evening with Dusty. It's an evening with Dusty.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

[C]

All right, all right. Where are y' all at, Mr. Bill. All right. Dan Spargo. We already. I'm say Dan Spargo. Oh. Nateland is Nashville. Nate World be located. Where'd y' all sit?

[D]

We didn't have a good answer.

[B]

We didn't have a good one either.

[D]

I had to explain to Dusty what he was saying, and then we kind of got off on.

[B]

I didn't know that's what they meant either. I thought they meant, like.

[D]

Like if.

[B]

If we were to expand to other planets.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, that's what. That's what I thought they meant, but I realized pretty quickly that was dumb.

[C]

Yeah, well, Disney World's in Florida, so it's like if Nate lands in Nashville. Yeah, I don't know. We got to get to that. Maybe it would be all Nateland, and then, you know, because you really would want Nate World to be in Nashville if it's the signature one, so I'm gonna blowing everything up. Dan.

[B]

Yeah, he messed up, dude.

[C]

You go Golly. I don't know if I'm able to do it.

[D]

Gotta change your letterhead.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Andrea Hunt. Great. Joe Foosh Jr. That's a fun one.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of him.

[C]

Joe Foosh. Boosh. I like him for some. Just because you said that. I don't know what he said, but.

[D]

Well, he likes everybody.

[C]

Oh, really? Well, he didn't mention tough. Yeah. Oh, he didn't mention you in it. Yeah. Oh, that's all right. He might not have. You know, you're never here.

[D]

That's fair.

[B]

He doesn't know you by now.

[D]

He made me.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I missed episode. Yeah.

[C]

All right, Mr. Bill 2000. Brian. Oh, here you go. Brian should do his own podcast and interview regular people who do regular things. So interview himself. He's got a seriousness about him still. With a great sense of humor. Brian could easily stand alone from these other nitwits.

[D]

Thank you, Mr. Bill 2000.

[C]

Here we go.

[D]

That's what we're talking about.

[A]

All right. Yeah, he gets an idea.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

He gets it. Finally, somebody you three Nitwits.

[A]

Oh, just regular people.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's just two people without a sense of humor talking to each other. What do you do for a lit. I mean, you would both sound like you do what the person you're interviewing does. Yeah, I'm an accountant. Well, I sound like an accountant as well.

[D]

Then he tells some jokes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

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[D]

Wow, that's a good read, Dustin.

[C]

Thank you, Brandon Mistler. I was listening to some older episodes and I couldn't help but notice Aaron said on the Dakota's episode that it wouldn't be that hard to raise quintuplets. Just curious as we near his daughter one year daughter's one year birthday, if he still thinks raising four would be no big deal. That's a good follow up.

[B]

Yeah, I don't remember saying that, but.

[C]

Well, you said it.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[D]

Roll the tape, guys. First surviving set of quintuplets was born in South Dakota.

[C]

Wow. South Dakota wants to again.

[D]

Four girls, one boy. Imagine have five kids at once.

[C]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[A]

Jeez.

[C]

Got to be done then.

[D]

Probably.

[B]

I could do it.

[C]

You could.

[B]

It's not that hard, guys.

[C]

The cross sections of America. What is the thing says that every other.

[B]

I think raising. Yeah, five kids would be difficult but don't. At a certain point when they're old enough, they can just occupy each other. I didn't mean this b. If I.

[C]

If I.

[B]

Word of defendant. I don't remember saying this.

[C]

I think what you said was, I think that's the woman's problem. If. Hold on, I might have it here. Quote, Yep, Aaron, that's the woman's problem, unquote. Who pays the bills. Something like that. I don't know if it's a mix of that.

[A]

I can tell you that we have two kids and me and my wife both are stressed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So if you had three more, it wouldn't be that hard.

[A]

They say three is the hardest.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Once you get past three, it doesn't really change it.

[B]

I thought it was the terrible twos.

[A]

No, I don't.

[C]

No, no.

[A]

3.

[C]

The number of kids. Oh, that was a joke.

[A]

We found your regular guy.

[C]

I guess I haven't been on long, so it's been pretty. We've had a.

[D]

New.

[C]

Stuff'S flying that shouldn't be flying. I want to apologize for that. Mike Guino. Guino. I was attending a conference and wanted to just be outside during a half hour break without talking to anyone since I didn't want to look like a psycho by just standing, staring at nothing. I pretended I was on a phone call with all of you as I listen to your podcast. I laughed when you guys did. And I interjected some very funny comments which were entirely ignored, by the way. It's a good new way.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When I was in eighth grade, I got dropped off at the movies to meet a friend. And I realized right after I got there that I was dropped off like two hours early. This is before cell phones. So I'm just sitting outside the movie theater. I don't have a cell phone. I'm two hours away from my friends being there.

[C]

And.

[B]

And I didn't want to look like I was just sitting there just like this guy. I went to a pay phone and pretended to talk it to the pay phone for a while for the exact same reason.

[C]

That almost sounds like I feel like I might have done. Yeah. It's like you. You could do that now. You just want to not just stare and. Man, sometimes you just want to stare.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You just want to go sit. I can. I can get going where I. You're staring at nothing but in your head. Just. And you're like, I just want to stare. Like a lot going on. Yeah.

[D]

I mean, just off in the distance.

[C]

No, kind of off the distance. But I'll do it sometimes over. I've probably done it to Valerie and Chase where I'm like it. They think I'm Looking at them and I'm. It's. I'm looking past them because I can see sometimes that they're like, do you want us? Do you need something? And I'm like, no, no. I'm just. I'm. I. You know, it's something else. Yeah. So. So you get a lot of stuff done. I was driving around today. No radio, just. I had enough. Really, I had enough. I had to do in my head. Yeah. Just kind of thinking some stuff through.

[A]

Those can be nice. Car rides with no radio. That can be nice.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Classical is good, too.

[C]

Yeah. You don't. Yeah, yeah. Just something.

[B]

Zone out.

[C]

Zone out. It's best to do it on the interstate. Caleb K. I'm a high school football referee, and Jay summed up being a sports official perfectly. Also, when Aaron said that Jay only watches the officials during NFL games, he is a hundred percent correct. Being an official has changed how I watch sports.

[B]

So we had Jay Flake on the podcast last week, who's a. A reference. Baseball, football and basketball. We're talking about. You go to a sporting event with him. He's just watching the umps. Yeah, he's not even really watching the game. We did it this weekend. We went to a Rockies game, and we were just talking about where all the umps were lined up for every play and stuff like that. It's interesting to. Because you're not even thinking about that as a regular guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, and then if you went to one more game with him, you'd be like, all right. You're like, I'd like to watch the game. Yeah.

[A]

I saw a clip from the Detroit Tigers where they. They hit the referee. Look like they hit the. Behind the plate.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the pitch.

[A]

I was into it. I love that kind of stuff.

[D]

Like, the catcher missed it on purpose.

[A]

Yeah, it looked like it because the catcher, like, the ump, like, made some bad calls and then threw the coach out of the game. And then a little while later, they hit him.

[C]

Is this how you felt before or after Kill Tony? I would.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, this would have always been.

[C]

I mean, I always into it. Yeah.

[A]

I don't like the officials, you know, I feel like they ruined sports now sometimes, you know, you gotta have someone out there, man. You gotta have somebody out there. But they make some really terrible calls that I feel like are unacceptable.

[B]

You're talking about the professional level.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. Because I've still. It's Little League. I've seen people do that where the coach will tell the catcher to miss it and Hit.

[C]

Yeah. It's like, I always feel bad for officials because it's like.

[D]

Me too.

[C]

It's a. What do you want them to. I mean, like, it's complete chaos if you don't. And they. And then I would imagine they yell at them more. I was talking about that this weekend, actually, about being a ref. Like, you know, where, like, football would maybe be a good one to be because you can kind of blend it. Like, unless you're the main guy that has to talk the whole time, but even if you're him, you're always kind of. There's a lot of refs out there. Yeah. So you blend in. Like, where basketball is, like, you're just getting pounded by these guys. And then maybe. Maybe baseball too, if you're. Because you can kind of be away from everything.

[A]

And I say college and above. I don't feel sorry for them. Anything under college, it's like, yeah, you're probably not making a big salary to be.

[C]

I don't think they're making a big salary. I think these guys have regular jobs. I think some NFL does, but I think some of them don't. And they have regular jobs and college.

[D]

And I know they do. I mean, unless they choose to retire. But during non season they have jobs.

[C]

Yeah, but he's looking.

[A]

They're just doing it for the point.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

How many umpires?

[C]

It was the first original ubereats was. You'd go get a referee gig.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I've considered all options. How many umpires are in a major league game?

[B]

There were four on. On the game that we were at this weekend.

[D]

I think they had six. When it's the playoffs, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

They put a guy down each line.

[B]

Now, Jay was saying some of these games he'll show up and they go, you have to up the whole game. Oh, he's the only ump out there. He's behind home plate, so he has to call if somebody's out at second from home.

[C]

How old are they?

[B]

This is like younger.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Like.

[B]

Like 12, 13. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But if it's like boys, it's like serious.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. And people lose their mind.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

That's what.

[C]

I mean, there's just what I. It's. It is a. It does take us, you know, not all of them. I know some of them make it about themselves and I. You can see that. But yeah, for some refs, it's like, it takes a. You know, you gotta have some kind of heart that you're willing to go. Have to deal with an irrational parent. That's, of course, that's just maybe not living in logic. Well, that's like even coaching.

[A]

They're so annoying.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Parents are so annoying. Yelling onto the field and they're like dance moms.

[B]

But sports, it's the same. It's the same phenomenon.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Kevin Blalock. Blaylock. It's better if I say it that way.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But if it's blah luck without the.

[A]

Law, that is just blah, Kevin. Blah.

[C]

I wish if I was his family, I would have got rid of that first L and just gone. Bollock.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Kevin Bollock. Yeah, that's a good.

[A]

I think so.

[C]

Blolik is like. It's kind of what? Yeah, they should have choking noise. They should have fixed that somewhere along the line when they came over.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

From where?

[C]

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, wherever you came over. Yeah. I'm a football, baseball and lacrosse official in Kentucky. Youth sports are always the worst for fan and coach behavior. My theory is that parents and coaches don't yet realize that their kids are terrible at sports. As the level of the sport increases, not only are the players more talented, but players and fans alike become more aware of their own skill levels and argue about calls way less. That's interesting.

[B]

It makes perfect sense.

[C]

It does make. That's good to hear.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Drawing and stuff. That's the name. I had a coach pitch one time I had a coach pitch one time from a son's team and I got the. Yups. I was beaming batters and throwing them all 10ft in the ground. It was the most shameful experience of my life. I played a lot of baseball growing up, so I knew how to throw. It was just the pressure of the situation. Oh, man, that's so funny, dude.

[D]

It's like when you just can't throw the ball straight in.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Get the yips and coach pitches.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

I like the beaming battery.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

Yeah. He's like, no, no, I got it, I got it. Sorry. He just happened to. He's just going, no, no. Over and over again. Just like, my bad, my bad. And I mean, these are five year olds that are scared. I mean, they're scared because a grown man is just throwing their head. Yeah. And he can't. And he goes, hold on, I got it, I got it.

[D]

It's his own team.

[C]

Yeah. They have to bring in another dad. They have to go. They have to go to the bleachers and go, is there a father here that can throw?

[D]

Get warmed up.

[C]

Is there one. Anybody out there. And everybody's like, I mean, 50 hands go up. Yeah, we all can. And he goes, oh, no, that hurts worse. Just. Oh, that's so funny.

[A]

And he's throwing to his own kids.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You throw to your kids team.

[A]

So you're hitting your own team.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[A]

So funny.

[B]

He's trying to throw just strikes down the middle.

[C]

Yeah, you're trying to. You want them to hit it. It's all. It's like softballs that you're just kind of like you're trying to get. You're trying to teach them how to play baseball. This guy is having a meltdown and he's brought, you know, in his head, it's like, you want to get. Someone in the crowd goes, throw underhand. Like, just throws out the suggestion. But he's like, I can't. You know, he played baseball. I mean, he's coaching. That's so funny, man.

[D]

His poor son.

[C]

Oh, my goodness, I wish you were a comedian because you could close. That's. That's a closer right there.

[B]

That's so funny.

[C]

That's so funny. It's. Oh, man. If you were just watching that game and you're like, what is up with this coach? And I mean. And then they finally get out of the inning and he's gonna go back. Because once you hit 15 year old, it doesn't get easier. Yeah, yeah. It's harder. Like then now you're like, man, how big these kids are. You start thinking they're big.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You're yelling, you're James. Why you're back crowding the play because.

[B]

You don't get, you don't get a base when you get, when you get hit. And coach, you gotta just stay up there.

[C]

You gotta stay up there and the umps, like, frustrated. Everybody's just so frustrated. But no, everybody's trying to laugh it off, but everybody's like, God, and he's got the yips. And the. Dude, when you get the yips, he ain't coming back from the yips there. You can get them in golf, you can get them in baseball. Like, I had them, I had them in. I talked about it. In softball, I would overthrow first base and I got him so bad in my head that I mean, I would just get. I would be the shortstop and I'd grab it and be a basic play and I would launch it 30ft over the first base. It would go into the opposing team's dugout and just. And it was, and it was a basic throw. If you if it wasn't that moment and you woke me up out of sleep, I could make that throw. But for some reason in that moment, you're just in your head that you're like. It's. You're lost and you go, I don't know what's going on. Yeah.

[B]

There's a player on the Braves, Tyler Matzick, who got the yips. Professional baseball player got him. It's just out of nowhere. And during the off season, he went and did some intensive with Marines to, like, try to improve his.

[C]

Did it go good?

[B]

Yeah, and he came back and he was a key part of that when they were in the World Series.

[A]

So he got him, like. So he got him, like, indefinitely, like, just couldn't crack.

[C]

Just couldn't crack it. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, he was a pitcher.

[B]

He was a pitcher.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Because Chuck. Chuck Knobloch. I don't know if you remember him. Yeah, he played second base and got him in.

[C]

Kevin Blahlock. No.

[D]

Wasn't that his name?

[C]

What was it?

[B]

Yeah, Chuck Knobloch.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He got on what?

[D]

He got the yips. He was playing second base, I believe.

[B]

Middle of the game.

[D]

And. Would you. I mean, that's so close to first. But still couldn't hit him.

[C]

Yeah, I did it too, at second base. I mean, I would overthrow it. Second base. You're. I could have run the ball to the first basement and got him out. It was that bad. Wow. It's like you're just thinking. All you're thinking about is that, you know, and like, in comedy, I think you could get it anything. Like, if you could probably get in comedy where you could feel yourself start, when you go on stage, you start wandering. I. I used to do it. I really worked on trying, like, getting rid of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's like, where you can go up there and just, you know, you can feel your self sabotaging. You ever feel that on stage where you, you, you know, you could be telling a joke and you're like, you're almost done with this joke. You better hope it goes good, because this is it. You don't have another. And some. You can feel your brain, like, being mean to your own self, and you're like, why don't. Why am I doing it? And you got to, like, kind of work on it.

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's essentially that. But with, you know, so this one movement. What did he do to fix this?

[B]

He went and did stuff. I remember reading about it.

[A]

He.

[C]

The twisties. Yeah.

[B]

For a gymnast.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, dangerous. If you get the hips as a gymnast because you're doing some girl got.

[C]

Who got it?

[D]

Simone Biles.

[C]

Simone B. Got it.

[B]

Did she have it?

[C]

That's why she's slipping. They don't know where they're at, and they forget everything. And then it's like, obviously, that's your. Upside down. Makes it more difficult.

[B]

Yeah, it's wild.

[C]

Yeah. I would. Yeah. That's interesting. He just went to Marines and.

[D]

But I. I'll be kind of like you, Dusty. I didn't realize it could carry over to the next. I would have thought a reset would.

[C]

Have fixed the problem, but no, no. People get it chipping. And then. I mean, that's why golf is a big one. And then I had them golf. Sometimes you got to know what. What they are. And so, like, if you're like, all right, so it would be the yips. And then. I know. I know. I'm like, jerking my hands through. So then you, like. If you know the problem, then you go, all right, I'll just work on that problem. But it's like. It's like something. You just have a trigger that makes it. You know, I. I could have it in golf at times where I. I think of the contact so much of, like, when the club hits the ball, and. And you need to be not thinking about that, and so then the whole pressure is on that point of it, and then you could. So right at that moment where you actually need to be the loosest, you're the tightest, and so you're just like. You just jerk through it, and you need to be loose. Yeah.

[B]

It's crazy.

[C]

Yeah. I'd like to read that. Braden. Braden Hemingson. Hemingson. Braden Hemingson. That's tough.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, it's just.

[A]

Keeps going.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It doesn't let up. It doesn't let up. That. That why. Doesn't help. That last name, I can tell you that. Yeah. I have two boys age 14 and 12 and travel baseball. Last year, we did a combined 145 games. This year, we are on track to the same. But our final tournament will take us from Nebraska to Nashville. All right.

[B]

That's almost a full major league season.

[C]

That's crazy. 145 games. It's like a tour.

[D]

I know. So last week, we mainly. We talked about esports, but mainly it was about reffing from Jay's perspective. So I thought I. I got more stuff to talk about. Youth sports. I thought that was a good lead in because these travel teams have gotten out of control. So many people. I have friends who have kids who play baseball. I mean, their whole summer, obviously, that much is gone.

[B]

Yeah. The whole family. For the whole family, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

If you have more than one, then you're splitting up. Mom's taking one somewhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Dad's taking the other way. The.

[A]

Imagine your family investing that much in you, and then you're like, dad, I don't want to play baseball. Well, yeah.

[B]

Too late for that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. That's all of it, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think all kids are. I always hear that, you know, Harper's in the horse and, like. But she loves it and does great. But then there's times where, like, that people told me, like, their daughter would grow up and be, like, obsessed with the horses. Then just one day, boom, done.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then. Or. But it happens with anything. It's like, yeah, they love softball. They love this, they love that. And then it's gone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You get burned out with stuff, man.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Like, I mean, like, if you're that kid and you're like, you keep running me around, and it seems like you as the parent, like this more than me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't want to play.

[D]

Now, Michael. Your friend Michael Clay. Yeah, my friend Michael Clay as well. He and his wife both coach, I believe, their daughter's team, so they make it a family affair and go everywhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Together.

[C]

And they do travel. She's good.

[D]

Yeah. So that's, you know, if you can do that, you're at least all together.

[C]

Experiences a good softball player.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I think I played, like, when I played little league baseball, I think a schedule was 10 games, maybe.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Maybe eight.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It was not long. And then if you.

[A]

And we skip practice.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Did you play every game?

[D]

No.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Our team had eight to 10 games. I got in some of them.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't remember how many games we had.

[D]

It felt like a lot then, but.

[C]

They played, like, Twitty City.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That was okay. That was the ball that was here. But the guys that were good played all that travels. Like, I never. Yeah, we played. I played, you know, the. What you. You know, like the. It'd be like the regular classes in school. I did no AP in any team sports.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Just. We played at the same, you know, same place.

[D]

Yep. Me too. What is that we're looking at?

[B]

I'm looking at my. My league. I played baseball and growing up. Yeah. The whole season lasts a month. There's probably, like. Yeah. 10 games here. I mean, 145, dude.

[D]

So the Average.

[C]

One of the teams is called Dick Sporting Goods. Yeah.

[B]

This is just whatever company.

[C]

This is like a little kid. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

This is. This is minor league.

[C]

Yeah. I played for Wits Barbecue. Really?

[A]

I prayed for McCory serving. Surveying.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Corey Survey.

[B]

I was always. Yeah. A long cut.

[C]

Are they getting y' all early because they kind of figured you'd be heading that direction.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They go, let's get them young. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, if you got. That would be funny if, like, they did pick kids based on who they think's not going to make it to college. And they go, we'll take that one. He's not that good. You're like. But he's going to be.

[A]

Well, you know, I talked to him about surveying. That's what it is. McCrory surveying.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they say there's a lot of math in it.

[D]

Oh, I don't know if that's right.

[C]

So it's like a serious show.

[A]

That's the thing for me.

[B]

What are those guys doing? Those guys are just standing out with it.

[A]

I actually thought it seemed like a good job because you stand out. You're outside getting some sun. Yeah.

[B]

And ground.

[A]

But they say it's like you do those measurements and then it's just so much computer work.

[B]

What are you measuring?

[A]

Math. Just.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

What are you surveying?

[A]

Probably, you know, distance, like when you want to build something, you know.

[D]

Yeah. Like acreage and such.

[A]

Yeah. How far is it?

[B]

It has nothing to do with the cars going by, I don't think.

[A]

I thought.

[B]

They're keeping track of us. They're always looking at us when we drive by.

[A]

I think they're just trying.

[D]

I mean, there might be. We're talking about land surveyors.

[B]

I'm talking about the guys on the side of the street with the little tripod thing, and they're just standing.

[A]

I think I said it wrong, and it made it sound like McCrory serving, like we were waiting tables.

[C]

No, you said, I got it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Is that not a surveyor, what I'm talking about?

[D]

I don't know what that is.

[C]

I don't know if I even know what it is either. I was just going with the joke.

[A]

Well, I think they, you know, they stay.

[C]

I was pot committed with a joke, and I didn't really matter what it was.

[A]

Well, they go, well, I thought it was an easy job, too, because I thought, well, you know. And I talked to a guy who did it, and he goes, well, it's just a lot of computer work now, like paperwork and like you do your measurements and then you got to go and do a lot of.

[C]

I've done. I've done this.

[B]

Well, this is what I was talking about.

[C]

You have? Yeah. Well, I work. I remember working construction or. Yeah. One of my jobs I've had maybe, you know, you'd always, you just on the, you know, I was always on the outside on the road. I was just never, never inside.

[D]

What were you doing?

[C]

Once you're outside, you got to do everything. I don't remember, but I remember. I don't. Like I was not. I was carrying something. The tripod maybe. I was not.

[B]

You weren't doing the math.

[C]

It did it. Yeah. They could have had. It was either me or donkey. Yeah. And both. We're both doing the same job. That was. Yeah.

[D]

It's a chase.

[B]

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[D]

So the average, the average family in the US spends a thousand, a little bit over a thousand dollars a year on their child's primary sport. Just their primary sport. Then the secondary sports, about 500. So they spend about $1,500 annually on average.

[C]

They got played against sports. That's a great thing for a show. I mean a store.

[D]

What is it?

[C]

I think it's. People can sell their. Right. They're old. Their old equipment to them. And then people can come and buy used equipment. So it's like you just always kind of. Because you know, you're like some are using it the whole time, some are not. That's a good.

[A]

I feel like our sign up was like 30 bucks and you got the shirt and you probably could wear the same pants a few years.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

It may need some new cleats. The glove you had for a lifetime, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then your younger brother had it after that. That's how it was.

[C]

I feel like too. I came up where your, your position mattered, how much money you have. Like if you're, you know, you're like, can I play first base? You're like, we, we can't. We ain't buying a first base. Yeah. Because of. Then you're.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You just go, are you out of your mind? No, you're going to be right. Filled.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Shortstop. I was a catcher and I did have a catcher's man. I don't remember if it was ours that we bought or not, but. But I don't remember. We didn't. I didn't own the equipment.

[A]

The catcher always seemed like the coolest position.

[C]

It was awesome.

[A]

Yeah. It seemed like the coolest people were the catchers.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But we. I didn't own the equipment. I was. They, they. It was their equipment. We have bought Harpers.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So we. Yeah. Like she has her own catcher's gear.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I did not. I used theirs.

[B]

I feel like the league just had it when I was growing up.

[C]

The league did. Yeah.

[B]

That's it in the dugout.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's what I think ours did too. And because then I remember when I went to 13 year old, it was the equipment that they had was too big. They probably would like come way down.

[A]

They knew that you were doing well and they were like, let's make Harper the catcher. And.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Make them buy.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Back there, too.

[C]

Yeah. You have to buy your own baseball field. Is that a. Is that a normal thing that they got. I'm now co owner of this baseball field. Is that a normal. Is that. Yeah. I loved it because you get to buy. I mean, it's. We go to our softball games. I mean, I. I got one tonight, and I can't wait.

[B]

Breaking in a glove. Remember that whole process?

[C]

They do a thing now at Dick's thing.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Don't you.

[B]

That kind of takes the magic away from it.

[C]

Like, the whole ritual of, well, you. You wrapped a thing around it. You slept on it.

[B]

Are you shaving cream? Everybody had their different way. We would just put, you know, rubber. Put it under the mattress and all that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And now you pay 200 bucks and they just steam it there in the shop and it's ready.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think everything gets to. Yeah. Well, I think it was just because there was no solution. So it was like, now it's even hard to get kids to even want to do it because you're like, well, they also have an iPad.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Where, you know, back then, you're like, all you had to do was work on that glove.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There was nothing else.

[D]

So could the brand of glove just do that for you ahead of time? Save you $200?

[A]

It's 200 bucks. We'd still be doing it the old school way, I can tell you that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's 150, 160 bucks to do it.

[A]

Yeah. You'll be working that in yourself.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's still a lot. That's a lot that I bet a lot of people still do.

[B]

Yeah. Buy a 200 glove and then you pay another 200.

[C]

These gloves, bats are unbelievable. How expensive I. I even thought it was. I thought we were in the wrong section. I couldn't.

[B]

You go, oh, this is for, like, pros and stuff. Right.

[C]

I want to say it was like 500 for some of them.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

And then you're where you go, look at it. I mean, I. I was. I. I was like, well, this isn't right. Like, I. If you told me, I was like, I don't know. $80, 100 bucks. And then, I mean, there are bats that are. That. But then. Then these other parents are buying these bats that are. It's insane.

[A]

Yeah. My parents would have been like, you can strike out just fine with the 80.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't think we ever owned a bat.

[D]

We never use what the coach had.

[C]

I just Used. Yeah, whatever was in the back of the coach's truck.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not getting ahead any.

[D]

Easton was the big bat when I was a kid.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

D. Marini. That was like the. The Cadillac of bats.

[D]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

After my time, one kid on the team would have one be like, oh, man, it's awesome.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So the average child spends less than three years playing a sport, quitting by age 11.

[A]

Yeah. So that's about me.

[D]

Didn't your dad. Dad tell you not to play soccer? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And basketball.

[C]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

He told me not to play soccer because I think he didn't want to go. And not to play basketball because he knew I couldn't play.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And not to be in band and not to be in the Boy Scouts.

[B]

And why those two things?

[A]

I don't want to be in the band. Not to be. Join the swim team. I just don't think my dad wanted to take me to those things.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The. The youth sports, growing the fastest. Lacrosse, which, believe me, we did not have in Lebanon when I was growing up.

[B]

Oh, man. We didn't have an Alabama.

[C]

Oh, no, no, no. I don't even.

[D]

Does Harper School have it?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Probably. Just not till high school.

[C]

Yeah, high school. I'm sure they have it, but I. Yeah, that wasn't.

[D]

And flag football.

[C]

You know, she mentioned to me the other day that she wants to play flag football, so that was pretty fun.

[B]

They play girls and boys together.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

At that age.

[C]

She just said she wants to play. I think it's in high school. And so I'm pretty excited about that.

[A]

That's.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

It's gonna be the Olympics.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I mentioned that last week. And NFL players are gonna get to play.

[C]

Oh, really? Yep.

[D]

But Aaron raised the point, does that necessarily make them the best players? Maybe there's guys who are better at it.

[B]

I bet there are guys who are unbelievable at flag football that can ever play in the NFL. There's like a whole league of guys. Like, I was watching.

[C]

You're still going to be. I mean, dude. But if you get, like, Jamar Chase, like, who's going to be able to defend him?

[B]

But do you think Aaron Judge would play in the professional wiffle ball league? I think it's like, the same kind of thing. I think.

[C]

Well, if it's the Olympics now. I don't think it is because it doesn't seem like maybe it was being taken as serious. So you're not going to do it, but, like, Think about the college players that would go do that. You're going to have receivers that like, couldn't get drafted, that are going to run four fours. So. And then they have hands. And I mean, you could fill the. Just the SEC alone could fill out your flag football team where you're going to have some quarterbacks that are just, you know, look at like Danny Warfel who played professionally but professional career wasn't like his college. Because college career is like the best ever. Like Johnny Manziel. You'll get Johnny Manziel. Like, I mean, he could. Right now you're like, who's going to be better than him in another country?

[D]

Yeah, but professionals get to play.

[C]

I know, but I'm saying, like, if the. If the high end profession. So if Lamar Jackson's like, I'm not playing flag football that they, some of them, I would imagine are not going to take it. It's going to be like, dude, this is ridiculous. I don't want to play flag football. Yeah, but you're. The next level down is. I don't even know what other country.

[D]

Would you imagine trying to grab Lamar Jackson's flag.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I wonder if they get soccer players. Like, that's probably what they'd have to. You know, you get some track play. I mean, I think these guys are athletes in other country. But if you just, you just have someone played four years in the SEC that maybe didn't make it to the pros. If you, if the high. If maybe the NFL's like, were, you.

[A]

Know, what about just like really fast, like, you know, like almost like gymnasts that were like real fast and elusive and nobody could catch them.

[B]

There's like a front handsprings.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like a Barry Sanders type.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Well, he's saying gymnast.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[A]

Elusive. And so our gym is fast. Well, I'm just saying, like, somebody like that, they wouldn't never. I would say NFL player because they could get crushed.

[C]

You know who you'd get. You ever see that on ESPN8 Ocho. Whatever the tag they Professional tag.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I'd go into that.

[B]

I spent hours watching that. Yeah, it's. It's really.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Small, elusive people that could never play NFL, but impossible to get the flag.

[C]

I don't know if. Yeah. I don't know how fast gymnastics are. Like, it's like, you know, but maybe.

[A]

That'S the wrong sport. But I mean, just elusive people.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. They have Professional tag, where they've got.

[B]

Two guys on an obstacle course and they start at other ends of the course. And it's just these guys. You have to make 20 seconds or 30 seconds. You think this is lame, dude.

[A]

Yeah, but I. I mean, I'm into it. I'd watch it, but. Yeah, watching them jump around.

[B]

Oh, I would destroy you at this, dude.

[A]

Would you?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, no way.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I mean, I'm out of shape, but I'd get you almost instantly.

[C]

Yeah, Aaron would. I mean, once you. Once you had to go through something where you have to squeeze through. Yeah. That's a lot of up and under and I don't know. I'm just saying. I don't. That's going to be. That's going to be the hard part.

[B]

There's a mental component to this too, though.

[C]

I see that. But are you gonna be able to go like. You got to go up and under a lot of things.

[B]

I'm gonna twist some ankles on the way.

[C]

Oh, that guy's. Oh, man. That's what's gonna happen. Someone far. Can you imagine? Like, this is what. People are listening to this and they're just in a car right now going, what do you listen to him? There's a podcast that's watching professional tagging.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Jump on in. It's great.

[A]

Intense chases from wct.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

These are the highlights from the world chase.

[A]

Tag the other ones. They just tag them.

[D]

One of the greatest maybe. I mean, the fastest growing youth sports is esports. They're now offering college scholarships.

[A]

What kind of sports?

[B]

Video games. A lot of these colleges now have esports teams, you know, and they compete against other schools.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

It's kind of, you know.

[C]

Yeah, it's kind of what.

[B]

I like it there. You schools have math. They have mathletes teams and stuff. It's basically the same stuff. You know, they have a mock trial team. Yeah, but that's like another event. You can.

[C]

Yeah, I. I get the idea of it being another event, but. And there could be, I guess, money. I don't. What. It doesn't matter. I don't care. It's. They should do it. They should have it. It's just you're going down a road of like video games. What do you, you know.

[A]

Yeah. With the other stuff, there's actually a professional level you could reach at some point.

[C]

Well, there isn't.

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

There's, I think a video like saying, like, you'll lawyer.

[A]

Yeah. Or math. Like, I mean, you're good. Really good at math.

[B]

Now you can be a professional video game.

[C]

Yeah. There's about. There's probably three of them, so you better be good.

[B]

I think it's such a bigger world than y' all are giving it credit for.

[C]

There's no way the average. I he think what, because of Twitch. So you have streamers. Here's what I'll tell you. If you get into that video game, what I would imagine. Say that's a. Say that's an artist type thing. Right? I mean, we are all an artist type thing. Here's what's going to happen. You're gonna have to get on Twitch. You're gonna have to do something. You have to do so much more than just play that game. Good.

[B]

If you want to be a comedian, you have to do so much more than do well on stage. You have to do all this other stuff.

[C]

No, but you can't do just well and say, but you can. You can. You're selling tickets. So this is not a. I think with stand up is an act. It's like people are paying to go this. If you're. If you're watching a streamer on play professional sports. I'm saying it's going to be hard for you. You're going to have a window and I think that window will close. Versus with stand up. You could do it for your whole life. But I'd imagine you're. It's everything else that comes with it. It's not going to be just you're an amazing player.

[B]

This is saying There's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

81,000 professional esports players are registered. So I have to imagine that's way more than comedians, right?

[C]

Yeah, but I mean, that's. They're. They're professional. Is going to be like.

[A]

But there's probably more than 81,000 registered comedians.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That'S true.

[C]

It's like anything. It's like you could. You could do it and you're like, get to the. Get to a level where you're comfortable doing it and you. You can have money and you make money from it and whatever. Yeah. The amount of work these guys have to a. The amount of work you got to put into it to be that good is you'd have to play every day, all day. Yeah.

[B]

That's what these guys do.

[D]

This is there. There are now efforts by gaming leagues to identify players before middle school in order to compete with other countries.

[C]

So.

[A]

Well, that's interesting.

[D]

Getting to them early.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. But what it's. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's like, just think you're going backwards.

[A]

I got, I got a relative that plays video games all day, every day, and I don't think they're professional. At least make some money.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

At least be good at it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Sports that are decreasing. Football.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

20, 20, 21 was the first year in America fewer than a million players participated in high school football.

[B]

Oh. Even at the high school level, it's down. I thought for sure with super young kids, it was down. I didn't know that. I guess it makes sense.

[C]

That's what I find interesting with the NFL is like, the NFL is, you know, they're so dominant, right. It's the most watched thing. No one can compete with it. And then I think they're getting cocky in the fact that they're going to these other countries now and they're having these games where they're like, you can't touch us. So we're going to do a game in Mexico, right? And you're like, I understand trying to expand it, but then you're, you're like, all right, well, if I want to watch the Jaguars game, I gotta get up at 4 in the morning and watch. And you're making a team fly all the way. I understand globally wanting to expand it, but it's, it makes it like, kind of weird. And they're, they're getting arrogant. They, they're like Amazon Prime. So then you're like, well, go find that. You got to find all of them.

[A]

Now they're trying to use football to build other brands.

[C]

It's like, to build other things and where you want to go, like, they got to be careful because this could be the beginning of the end in the aspect that you go, you start spreading out too much, then people are not really going to have a connection team. You don't have a one star that's not going to help your sport or multiple stars. You had Peyton, you had Tom Brady. I mean, you have this kind of stuff now, but you're, you know, those guys are not all there anymore where you're like, all right, I can, you know, you're going to count on this person for this many years and this. Whatever. And so it could be, it seems I'm, I'm, it's not saying that it will. They, they, they're giants. I understand how that's the biggest thing in the world, but. Or for, you know, for us, for America. But it's, you get a little, you start going, you know, you start doing stuff where you kind of start poking people where you're like, what? When was the game? And they're like, it was Wednesday in Paris. And you're like, what? And then I go, like, when did I get a what? You know? Or my team is this. You get a little arrogance and you go, well, Thursday night, you got to go, now download this. And then you want to watch the games on Christmas. Well, now you got to have Netflix. You want this game. You want Sunday Red, Sunday Red Zone. We're doing ads now. And then, even though you're like, it's all this stuff where you're getting a little bit. And it could be the NFL as the brand, maybe it's the. They're getting influenced by these because there's such a big draw. But you want to go, people will people. And. And that's how it starts. Something like that. And then if they start undercutting theirs.

[A]

You spend so much on stadiums and you have less home games because you're playing in.

[C]

You know, and then if you got. You got less than a million people playing right here, then you start going down. I mean, this is. You know, you could get in a problem where you.

[A]

Now we're watching. Next thing you know, we're watching professional tag. That's our sport.

[C]

Well, sports are going tag.

[B]

Professional tags. Awesome. All right. Don't throw that under the bus. You can play professional tag and. And football.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, it's not, I would say sports. So you got to be somewhat. There is evolving. But you got to also be. Don't be arrogant because you can kind of like baseball, in a sense, could have maybe had a little bit of that where the. We're America's pastime and all this. And there's an arrogance that you want to go like, well, where are you at right now? Like, it's not. You're not the most favorite sport. You're not all this stuff. And then because you're arrogant and you go like, we're never going to. You can't touch us. And then it's. You're seeing it like all these imb. Like, you start getting a little wacky, then it's going to be hard for us to follow. And you kind of forget that. You're like, yeah, dude, we're not all jobless. We have lives.

[A]

Then you charge $10 for a beer at a game. Game and are more, oh, I bet.

[C]

It'S way more than that. I don't know. But I bet it's more than $10.

[A]

It's like, I don't know. I just.

[C]

Well, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's all of it. Where?

[A]

It's insane.

[C]

It's insane.

[B]

I got two hamburgers and two Tater Tots at the Rockies game. It was $60 this week.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

And then your team's not good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then you start going like. You know, you start. Because the older you get, too, if your team's not good, you go, I'm not. You know, I used to, when I was young, I would watch. What'd you say?

[D]

I said, you eat it all.

[B]

I want somebody else a hamburger, too.

[A]

Two hamburgers and two Tater Tots. 60 bucks. That's insane.

[B]

Well, it was with bacon, too. We made some.

[C]

There we go.

[D]

That's your fault.

[C]

Yeah. It's still crazy, but it's like, yeah, you win. You went in. We. I thought it was. You figured you went all in, but.

[B]

You kind of all. You fold that.

[C]

What other meat you got back there that you can put on a hot dog that I won't look insane.

[B]

You fold that into the experience. You know, I'm gonna go there. It's good. I'm gonna spend a stupid amount on something, you know?

[C]

You do, but I understand.

[B]

That's part of the experience.

[C]

You do it, but when you build your company up, I don't think it's right. Look, I know. I, I, I. I'm not getting the logistics of the spending. I'm just saying, as a business. But you have 82 games, right? 182 games. Right. Or something.

[B]

163. 81 home games.

[C]

So 81 home games. The problem that is, like, you need people coming to everything, so that's a big expense to turn those lights on, and you need people to go to everything. Like the NFL. You're like, you got 16 games. You're like, all right, they're not even doing that at the NFL, but you can fill it, but you got to sell those tickets. So if you get too big and too spread out, it's always, like. It always talks about TV rights. That's the part I don't understand. I don't like TV rights. Because then you just hear it's like, TV rights, they're making billions of dollars, and then they're. But then you tell me no one's watching tv.

[A]

I think they're only watching sports.

[B]

They're watching live sports.

[C]

I know they're watching live sports, but it's. I don't know. Like. Yeah, it's all. I don't know.

[B]

Well, it's all going to come crumbling down soon. So you have to worry about it.

[D]

The sport that has the most vacancies for scholarships.

[B]

Yeah, all right, I did that for you.

[A]

Well, it is true.

[D]

The sport that has most vacancies for scholarships. Anybody want to guess sports vacancies for scholarships? Like, the easiest to get a scholarship.

[C]

Women's golf.

[D]

Yes, women's golf.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Y.

[C]

If you can break 90 and, and like, if you can just. If they. We harbor plays golf. I don't know if she'll want to commit to it to go to college. But I mean, a lot of them say, like, if you want a scholarship, if you, your daughter can play golf, I mean, you, she'll get a scholarship. And maybe not to a Vanderbilt or to the, you know, schools that have.

[D]

These Ball state teams.

[C]

Yeah, Ball State. Like, but they, they, they need them. I mean, even the high school level, they, you know, they don't. They're just not enough women. That's, I think a lot of sports. I, I would have never thought of anything like that. But if you did think about if you're going to college, like, you can find ways to get scholarships. I remember a buddy, Kenny was a cheerleader, male cheerleader. We made fun of him. You get scholarship for cheerleading, but yeah, we still make fun of him. He has to deal with that. Yeah, yeah, but he did.

[B]

That's the real cause.

[C]

Yeah, but he, you know, if you can handle that, then you can. But you could find, you know, there's ways or like you know, going to college.

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[D]

Do you think if your kid was really good at one sport when they were young, do you think you'd want them to focus solely on that sport or try to play multiple sports?

[C]

I think they played this. I would say play multiple. Sorry.

[B]

To focus.

[A]

I would say focus. He says play multiple. But, yeah, I mean, you want to see what's out there, right? You want to see. But if you're good, don't burn out.

[C]

I, I know. I would say yeah, but you, I.

[D]

Would say you're more likely to burn out that way.

[C]

You're going to burn out that way because they're going to get tired of that sport and you want them to be doing everything. If you're, if you're, if you're working, if you can make it to the even Division 1 almost to play college football, you can play every sport, essentially.

[A]

What, what about the risk of getting hurt? Right? You're like, you're good at one and you could get a scholarship.

[C]

Yeah, that's true. But I think it's probably better for your body to have all the movements.

[A]

You want to twist your ankle out playing tag.

[C]

Well, you're gonna.

[D]

Well, I know I did read that that you're more likely to have an injury doing the same repetition year round than playing other sports using different muscles. Especially if you're like a pitcher or something.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, Antonio Gates played basketball, did not play football till his, like, junior year. I think.

[D]

Something crazy.

[C]

Something crazy. He's in the hall of Fame as the tight end in the NFL. So that's.

[A]

If you're, if you're a guy, though, huh?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. But if you're. But if you're good enough to make it to the professional league, you're on such another level that, like, you're not even trying. Like Allen Iverson. You've seen those clips where they show, like, Alan Iverson also playing football and you're like, he's not even. It's not even. He would. They're not Even competing.

[B]

I was watching LeBron's high school football highlights this weekend, actually. I just randomly saw.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They're not a five star recruit in Ohio.

[A]

Let's say though that the sport is basketball. But they want to play football. That like, you know, that seems like you a big risk.

[C]

Yeah, that could be.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But then you. But I mean again, if they're that good, where they're going to go somewhere crazy. Hey, you gotta let them be obsessed. So if they're like obsessed about one or the other. My buddy Adam, he played for Belmont and then played low overseas in basketball, but he was obsessed with basketball. And so he, but. And now he would only play basketball. So I, you know, nowadays you're probably playing so much travel ball that you really only have time for one. Yeah, I would imagine. But I think it would be better. I think most kids, you know, Patrick Mahomes, like, if you went and said, what'd you play? They're like, they played every single sport and they dominated every sport.

[D]

Well, he could play major league baseball.

[C]

Yeah. And they almost didn't have to work on it. Like, it's, it's such a different level that you're like these guys, it's. It's beyond grasping what they can do. It's like seeing some of the Olympics where you go like, I know they, they put in the works. They have to compete, but they could almost get to the Olympic level just by. Because they were born. And then if you want to really make it, then you do got to compete like a crazy person and work harder than everybody else. And. But your talent alone, you know, if LeBron never, you know, it's like he could have played college basketball if he sat on his couch.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And did nothing. He could have made a college basketball and figured it out. Antonio Gates figured out football. They get kids from other countries, never even held a basketball. And then they come start for a Division 1 basketball team. Team. Because they're just that. Yeah.

[D]

That kid at Duke this year who just got drafted. NBA.

[A]

But let's say you're not that gifted and you really need to focus to get to the next level, then I think you would.

[C]

But I think that kid knows, like, hey, I want to go play college, whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So if I'm going to go. If I'm going to. That's what he's against. So he has to use hard work and going. Not saying he can't. He can then go do it. And that has that got, you know, that extra. You know, there's a lot of players that have that. Where they're. They got that extra drive, that extra thing, they work harder, they do this and blah blah, whatever. And they're just not given the talent. But I think that's how you get greatness is when you have. You have the work ethic of that of a person with not the God given talent, but you have the God given talent. And then they had and those. And they work harder than you. Like a Kobe and like LeBron George. Like when you did that, that's when you get this one of one. Because that's so rare. You're either going to be given. Because there'd be a lot of people that you're like, you know, there's guys that could, you know that the greatest player that ever was that ESPN thing that the football player. Like you have a guy like that where you're like this dude just could, you could wake him up out of bed and he could run for 200 yards against Nebraska in the 90s.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like it was. It's. It's on another level. They're not even. They're born different. But the work, maybe the work ethic or whatever it is and they get caught up and that's the thing. So you got to have those two. And those are two hard things to. You know, they don't come naturally. They don't come.

[D]

I'm one of the few has both.

[C]

You do. Yeah. He's at the highest level. He could be.

[D]

I could cruise. Yeah, that's true.

[C]

Yeah. He's at the.

[D]

I'm headed down.

[C]

It doesn't really mean that you're going to be Michael Jordan. But he's at, he's at the. Bates is the. Out of all the baits that were made, he's the best of the bait. Yeah. And it's not even close.

[B]

He's the Michael Jordan of all the possible.

[C]

Brian. All the. All the. Yeah. Out of all. If you look at Brian's that are doing stuff.

[A]

Who are some other baits that we have as Norman.

[D]

Yeah. Obviously kicker for the Lions. I think Josh Bates.

[C]

Yeah. And so you could argue who has a better career. Okay. You know, him and me.

[A]

I didn't know know that guy.

[C]

You go, I don't know.

[D]

I mean it might be me.

[C]

It might be him. He's got longevity.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's true. You get along.

[D]

The truth, buddy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Let me see if that guy's kicking in his 50s, huh?

[D]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Dusty, will you let your kids play sports?

[A]

Yeah. I mean I'd be Into it. I don't. I. I don't think I'd let them play football, but, you know, obviously, one's.

[C]

A dog, my daughter.

[A]

But I. I don't know. I don't think I'd be into football.

[B]

But I had two girls on my football team.

[C]

Did you? Yeah.

[B]

Two girls. Two different years. Two girls. So you can do it.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I wouldn't let my daughter do that.

[C]

Yeah. And I wouldn't.

[A]

I probably wouldn't let myself, even a super young. Nah.

[C]

Yeah. Like when they're like, seven.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Maybe when they're seven, if they're running.

[D]

Around like, they're often bigger than the boys that age.

[B]

Sometimes. Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, I'd like. Yeah. The other sports. Yeah. I just wouldn't. I don't know. I don't want my kid to get a brain injury from some.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Spear to the head from some kid that's a maniac.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. What about participation trophies? What do you guys think about those?

[A]

I'm against it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I think you teach your kid not to value trophies that much.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you can give them whatever you want. You give them a little thing to put.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the pizza party at the end of the year. Sure. But there's no need to give out trophy. I don't have any trophy from back then.

[B]

But you got trophies as a kid, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it meant a lot to you at the time.

[A]

I don't think so, because I knew we didn't really win anything, but it.

[B]

Was just a cool, hey, we finished the year.

[C]

Yeah. You go, like, all right, here's. You do, like, the maybe of your team. Like, you know, your own little team gets trophies. But. Yeah, but I. But I think we knew the difference. I mean, the idea of participation trophies. Like, you do know. You know, if your kid doesn't know what that trophy is, that's on you. Like, you should tell him that. You know, he's got to know. I. If I got a position trophy, I knew it didn't mean anything.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You teach them the difference between that and if you win the championship, you get a real trophy. But.

[D]

And if you're really small and you make it through the whole season without quitting, that's something you're participating.

[C]

That should be the name of your next CD participation trophy. Wouldn't that be a good thing for you?

[D]

Have so many names lined up for me, I gotta. I gotta put out, like, 20 specials.

[C]

Well, I gotta get to work.

[B]

A lot of branding.

[C]

Yeah, a lot of branding ideas.

[A]

I mean, I think for the sake of the trophy business. Yeah, let's give out some trophies.

[B]

We got to keep these places.

[A]

But I'm just saying it meant nothing. That's right. I don't know. Maybe it did mean something.

[D]

Alex Bluto has a very, very funny joke where he says people are against the participation. Trophies shouldn't get a tombstone when they die.

[A]

That's true.

[D]

Yeah, but.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, it's funnier than the.

[D]

Way I just told it.

[A]

Do you have. Yeah, but do you have.

[C]

In this context, it was sad.

[A]

Do you have any trophies from your childhood like that? Like if you actually won something, maybe you kept it. But do you have any trophies from like, you know, rec league baseball where you just finished the season?

[B]

Not as an adult, but I remember as a kid on my windowsill, I had all these things and I used to. As a kid, I was proud of them. And they're like, they're mementos from.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Through the years, you know, and you've a home run ball up there or whatever and it's all just.

[C]

Yeah, but a home run ball, that's something.

[B]

But my family was never like, you have meaning because of this trophy.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think most people do. I don't think most families.

[B]

I agree with you. I think it's. I think it's made to be a bigger issue than it's.

[C]

Yes, most everybody knows. Everybody's regular, everybody's normal.

[B]

And they know their team stinks.

[C]

Yeah, everybody knows.

[B]

Yeah, they know the record.

[C]

But we're all kind of imagining this person.

[A]

Sebastian Maniscalco. There was some video he put out where he was saying he was at his kids basketball game and his kids were getting beat real bad. It was like 14 to 2. And then the next thing you know, he looks up at the screen and it's 10 to 2. And he goes, what happened? He goes, oh, well, we didn't want to embarrass the other kids too much, so we shaved off some points. And I think that's ridiculous. He thought it was ridiculous. It was like, like just call the game early if you need to, but don't.

[C]

Well, I think where he. His kids play basketball, I think that stuff happens a little bit more.

[A]

Yeah, maybe So I don't know where.

[D]

They put point shaving.

[C]

Well, that kind of. It's. It's like where. Yeah. In the. I mean, if you're in the south, ain't nobody.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Nobody's taking points away from. Like, you're not going to run into that unless it's like a wealthy. Like it was something insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But you're. I just think it's. Yeah. That kind of aspect. It comes from probably the parents. Yeah. It's not the kids. It's definitely the parents. And it's going to be just circles, and then it's going to be circles. As far as a regular person, I don't think they're. No one's even remotely in the grand scheme of it, dealing with it. And it's just kind of blown up, you know?

[D]

What about club sports? That wasn't even a thing when I was a kid, but now I think. Think a lot of kids. Adrian son plays club sport football. Right. Instead of in high school.

[A]

What's that mean?

[D]

Just like a private league.

[A]

Okay. Not like the rec league.

[D]

Is it like direct? Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

But I think it's become a much bigger thing.

[B]

What do you mean? As opposed to playing for your high school?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Does he play for high school, too?

[B]

Middle school.

[C]

Middle school, yeah.

[D]

He plays rec instead of middle. So he's working his way up to try and go out for the team in middle.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Yeah. Because it said it was a lot bigger.

[A]

I played rec league baseball, basketball, soccer, but it was all before middle school.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

This says it. A lot of club sports offer specialized training. So, like, if you're, you know, really good at particular sport, particular position, then maybe they can focus more.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

On that position.

[B]

I've never heard of this.

[D]

Well, you need to learn stuff.

[C]

All right. Before we wrap up.

[D]

So you're at Madison Square Garden this weekend.

[B]

It's crazy.

[C]

What? Oh, yeah, it's crazy. But, yeah. Was that. Do I need to say stuff about the Emmys or.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[C]

Well, I mean, do you want to do this?

[D]

I just had some fun facts. I'm very excited. You're at MAS Square Garden.

[C]

I am at Madison Square Garden this weekend, yeah. It's unbelievable.

[B]

Have you done anything there before?

[C]

No.

[B]

Have you been there?

[C]

I've been there for games or what?

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, so I've never done anything.

[B]

That's awesome.

[C]

Yeah. It's gonna be crazy. I'll be at the Ryder cup, too. It's in Beth Page. So I'm going down and I'll. It's gonna be a mix of both.

[D]

Where's Beth Page?

[C]

In Long Island. And so, yeah, I want you to.

[D]

Share some of these facts with maybe the audience or Jimmy Fallon or whoever. Do you guys know why it's called Madison Square Garden?

[B]

Because it's on Madison Square.

[C]

Nope.

[B]

It's not a square building.

[D]

It's not. It's round and it's not a garden.

[C]

Madison Square Garden. Okay.

[B]

And it's on Madison Avenue.

[C]

It.

[D]

It's. Madison is James President James Madison. That's what it's named after. It used to be there. This is the fourth location for it. The original was a garden and it was square.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

But then they. They've moved locations.

[C]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[D]

It's the oldest arena in the NBA. Second oldest in NHL. You'll never guess what first is, so I'll just tell you.

[C]

Is it not a team?

[B]

How to build suspense.

[D]

It's a team. You know, you just would never guess that.

[C]

Winnipeg Jets, St. Louis Blues.

[D]

Seattle's Climate Pledge Arena.

[C]

Oh, with the crack doing. Really? That's the oldest Climate Pledge.

[A]

Feels like a real. A newer name.

[D]

Yeah, definitely. The arena itself is old. It's just that the hockey team just recently started playing.

[C]

I'm. I'm going there now. We're going. We're going there soon.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

They've not been moving that name around.

[B]

No. It was called the Trash Burning arena in the 70s.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

All right. This is important for you, Nate. The arena is built atop Penn Station. So it has a large, large floor with enormous springs. Prevent vibration when you're on the floor. So that's good. So when you're up there.

[C]

Yeah, I won't feel it.

[D]

You won't be bouncing around.

[B]

How many. What does it see?

[C]

Eight.

[B]

How big are the shows?

[D]

Like 20,000.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, it's not. Yeah. I don't.

[A]

I mean.

[C]

But mine are all. Yeah. Like it's like 16. Like, I don't know what they are.

[D]

It's the second.

[C]

15, 13, you know, second busy.

[D]

Busiest concert arena in the world. But last year in terms of ticket sales, the sphere in Phoenix, in Las Vegas was number one. Bristol arena was number one a couple years ago. No, the locker rooms. This is important. They're all round. They're in the round. So no player feels less than the other player. If you're in all in a circle. Nobody's ahead at the head of the table participation trophy.

[C]

But I bet the guys in the middle know they're in the middle. Like, you know, I mean, when you walk in, you know who's good on.

[B]

The team and who.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. If you go in there and you know. Yeah. It's like John Starks. Patrick Ewing.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You see Pat, you ing sitting, you're like. Like, I bet that's the main spot. Yeah.

[B]

Is that the same idea of the knights in the round table. The same concept, right?

[C]

All right.

[D]

No, not one person's ahead of the other.

[C]

I like it.

[D]

Yeah. Billy Joel set the record for most performances there. He did a residency he started in 2014. Did it once a month, every month.

[C]

Crazy.

[D]

Did 150 shows.

[A]

Billy Joel's great. I saw some people trying to hate on him on Twitter.

[B]

He's awesome. Dude, his music's so good. You watch the documentary?

[A]

No.

[B]

Everybody tells me, too.

[D]

Yeah. Michael Wyman had a tweet that went viral making fun of Billy Joel.

[A]

Oh, yeah?

[D]

What? She said something about, if you like Billy Joel music, you like show tunes and something. I don't know. It's just something snarky.

[A]

I disagree. I don't like show tunes, and I love Billy Joel. No offense to Micah.

[D]

The longest game in Madison Square Garden history. Nate, you want to guess?

[C]

Was it a college game?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yukon.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Versus. I could have went to it.

[D]

Oh, I thought you did go.

[C]

No.

[D]

Oh, well, never mind. I thought you and Joe List went.

[C]

Where it was a whole.

[B]

Wasn't like 13 overtimes or something.

[D]

Crazy.

[C]

Yeah, it was six or seven.

[D]

It was the Big east tournament.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Syracuse and Connecticut, six overtime games.

[C]

Yep. We. We were there for the early session. That was the night session. And so me and Joe List go. We're gonna go there for the early session. This famous story in a comedy. We're going to the early session. Then we're like, we should just go to the night session, too. And then, you know, and so then. When was it? 2000?

[D]

2009.

[C]

Nine. Yeah. And then Joe List been, you know, back. We drank, and then Joe List was. Drank a lot that day, and he. And he. He had. His girlfriend at the time was like, they were supposed to go do hot yoga. And I was like, just. Just tell her we're at the. We're gonna stay here and watch the other games. And then he was like, nah, she's gonna get. She even said, it's okay. Go.

[D]

So it wasn't even because you had spots?

[C]

No, because he got yoga.

[B]

He wanted to do hot yoga.

[C]

Well, he was. He wanted to. He thought she would be mad if he stayed. Okay. In hindsight, yes. He should have stayed.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But. Sorry. But he left, and so I didn't go either. And then it became that game. He went into the hot yoga. He did it and was like. I mean, just smelled like alcohol, like.

[A]

But he really sweated, though.

[C]

Oh, yeah. But, I mean, she was not. I think. I think she was. He got in trouble because she Was like, she would rather him not come to that. Yeah.

[B]

Then show up like that.

[C]

That. But.

[D]

Well, the game ended at 1:22am I. Wow. Highest attendance for a single event. UFC 205, Alvarez versus McGregor. 20,000 people. Sebastian had five sold out shows last year, and just last month, an Indian comedian named Zakir Khan did the entire show in Hindi. Every comedian on it did it solely in Hindi.

[C]

Yeah, I met him.

[D]

You did?

[C]

He came to the.

[A]

Did you do.

[B]

Did you do the guest spot?

[C]

No, no, but I. He came to my show at. In. At the Boston Garden.

[D]

Cool.

[C]

He came. He came to. Yeah, he came to my show, the Boston Garden, and I got to talk to him afterwards and he was about to go do Madison Square Garden. Like, super cool, dude. He's like enormous. Then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Cool.

[B]

Well, good luck, man. That's exciting.

[C]

It's fun.

[D]

So share all that.

[C]

Yeah, please.

[B]

You've got so much going on. It feels like sometimes we don't get to focus on individual things. That. That's what we were. I was laughing at earlier is like, you just did the Emmys and now we're like, just casually. Yeah. I met Madison Square Garden this weekend. It's all insane. Everything kind of. It's all insane into each other.

[C]

It's all insane. Yeah. I mean, I guess to him, he's just like, I don't know if you've.

[D]

Done so much since then.

[C]

Probably. Yeah, I don't.

[D]

Let me ask you this. Name a celebrity that you thought would be crazy that'd be hard to talk to, who end up being super cool, fun.

[C]

You know what's funny is I didn't really get to talk to any of them because you're just where you're at and where they come on stage. I just was not near any of them. I said, what's up to Walton Goggins? We talked for a second and he was cool and. But it's like, other than. I did not see. John Oliver was great.

[B]

Oh, you talked to him?

[C]

Yeah, he was like. Because he was very funny with the thing and I talked to him, you know, and I don't know if we've ever really talked. We've been in the same city for a long time in New York and that. But yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know if I would have an answer. I'm trying to, because it just. I mean, it was crazy. It was like I wasn't a part of it. It. Even though I was hosting it. Yeah. I just wasn't mixed in because I.

[D]

Remember the Golden Globes. You said Kieran Culkin, super nice.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. It was awesome.

[D]

And somebody I would just think would not be a normal person to talk to. But you said he was really cool.

[C]

And down to earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, I'm trying to think who I. Yeah, I'm trying to think who.

[B]

I. Leanne, you were telling me up there was cool.

[D]

Yeah, you tell me. She was a nightmare.

[C]

So Leanne was tough. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, Leanne. Yeah. Doing it. We had a whole thing with Leanne that we were going to do and it just didn't time wise work, but it was going to be a very funny introduction thing and it just didn't work out. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think if, look, if you have some, if people ask some me questions.

[D]

Everybody'S comments were just kind of the same. They've never watched the Emmys till this year because of you. And they all thought you did wonderful. You obviously, the rating showed that.

[C]

Yeah, you guys showed it with the ratings, which is huge. And that was a huge win for myself, career wise. And that is a big, big thank you to you guys because that stuff does matter. I mean, it was, you know, I come in, I'm not, you know, even though I know I'm doing the Garden and I've shot a movie and I've done all this stuff, but I've, I've had to do it all kind of with. On, like, with me being the lead of it. It's not been necessary in that typical Hollywood world. They brought me on. It is the idea that I'm kind of an outsider of that system that they have. So the biggest thing that showed was that the ratings went up and. Which helps me. You guys showing up helps me. And if you, you know, if you trust that I'm can give you the entertainment that you want, like, that's. That is how I, that is how I can. Because now I can sit and they know that, you know, there's an audience there and that I can then go, all right, we got this movie. If this movie does good, it's like, well, then I can, I mean, I can really, I think, you know, get in there and really make a lot of stuff that I, you know, think will have a lot of appeal to it. So. Yeah, thanks. And the Boys and Girls Club thing was like a fun.

[B]

You raised a ton of money for them too. I saw they were getting flooded with not just what y' all gave, but a ton of other people flooding in and giving them, too.

[C]

They got. We had some. Yeah, the. The. A lot of the reviews did not like the Boys and Girls Club thing, but I didn't. I want. It came from a. A real place of heart. That's all I want. And everybody at home loved it. Everybody home liked it. It was fun. It was entertaining. Seeing money go down and all this, I thought it would be a fun. I kind of. In my head, I wasn't trying to put anybody on the spot. I wasn't trying to make someone donate money. Yeah. But in my head, I kind of thought, like, make it fun. Do what John Oliver did, where John Oliver, like, stuck it to me and made me have to pay more money. And I was, like, really trying it to just be this. We had the kids there. It was. We're not using the charity as a tool. Yeah, it was. It was almost. They asked me comics. The thing too, is, like, they asked. They asked you to come up with a way to make everybody go shorter. Comics, I don't think are good to ask that, because you. I will try to really find a solution.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you want to go like, oh, you don't want us. I mean, CBS was amazing. They love. They love. But, like, some of the people that talked about it, you go, all right, so don't find a solution. Like, you want to go. Y' all don't want any of this messed with. Right. You want to do what you want to do.

[B]

I found the most efficient way to handle it.

[C]

Yeah, you go, okay, Like, I would have just not just tell me that. Go like, hey, we just want to do it our way, and then we're going to tell you these things. That's what I kind of figured out afterwards. I mean, CBS was very happy. I think people at home were very happy. They watched it. I wasn't trying to overshadow any of their speeches. We could have made a. I mean, like, there was a lot less money. Not ready. Like, it could have went down. I honestly wouldn't thought I thought would happen in the room. And I thought it was. I thought it was going to be, you know, I don't know, Netflix donating or Apple, like, you know, the shows that won. It wasn't even making. It's like I expected that kid to give money, which I covered for that kid, but it's like, I kind of thought that's what would happen. And in my head, I pictured it as they could then go long, but then be a hero. So it was Like a win win. So it was like. And then the night becomes about love and you're giving to these kids that are there and this, all this kind of stuff. And I don't know if I just didn't explain it enough in the room or explain it enough, you know, it's like I'm just. I don't, you know, I don't know if, you know, I don't know. They might not know enough about me, like, because they know me as a stand up comedian, but I'm not around these people all the time. I don't, you know. So I think it was just. I had it in my head one way, it kind of came out another way, but the reasoning was there. I wasn't going to give that money at the end. Like, I wasn't thinking I was going to have to. But the way it went, I was like, well, I can't, you know, okay, I'm not gonna. Not. Yeah. You know, and. But yeah, then a lot of people, Boys and Girls Club were awesome. They got it.

[B]

They're pumped about all this.

[C]

They were pumped about it. They got it. Like, they knew there's no ill will. There's no any. It's like just trying to. I was trying to have a very giving night and I wanted even to protect. So if someone was giving these long speeches, I just thought they could be like, and Netflix will cover my overage or something stupid. I kind of. I just thought, you know, in hindsight I thought and. But I think I could have explained it more, to be honest.

[B]

Well, I like that y' all tried something.

[A]

All the people in the comments, any negative thing that I saw, all the people in the comments, it was crazy. But like anything, like if a publication put out something negative, you go read the comments. Everybody's positive. Everybody's like, well, I only watched it because of Nate.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So it was. It was that stuff really, really matters. You might not that even that little aspect of something can. It helps me because then I can go in and when I want to do other stuff, I am now walking in with a track record to then take some swings at movies and TV shows and game show or whatever I'm else I'm trying to make. You don't owe it to me or any of that. But it's. That's just the truth of how it lays out. So thank you guys for watching. But yeah, I did see some and I would. It was funny. It's like the people at home, everybody that watched it, the comments, it was funny. Like, because there was a lot it would say, like, the controversial way. And I've not had any controversial stuff. It is pretty funny to me. My only controversial thing is the Boys and girls clubs got 350 and you go, you're right. That was not ideal. But it's. Everybody essentially even there. They liked it in the room because people were like, how was it in the room? And I was like, I don't know. I thought it was. I don't think it felt too crazy. I mean, I know they all had that worry about losing money, but it's like, again, it was like what I said, it's a game I made up and I can't change. It's made up. Like, it's like, let's be, you know, let's. Let's, you know, let's have fun. And I don't know, but.

[D]

And you were telling me off air. You didn't really donate that money to boys.

[C]

No, I made them pay me the over that they had.

[D]

What's misconception here?

[C]

No, no, we got. I gave him the money and now.

[D]

He'S starting a patreon.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. All your money goes to Boys and Girls Club, everybody. No, yeah, we gave. Yeah, we gave them the money. And yeah, they were. The boys group was awesome.

[D]

That's awesome. That's great.

[C]

They've had people win Emmys out of the boy. Like, JB Smooth was like, we were really thinking about the money too. That's the other thing. We. In the moment in the room, we were just like, who went over how much time this. That like, we were really into the game of that more than anything else. So maybe that also where they were like, you know, sometimes where it felt like it went, I would have maybe done a couple things different, but overall, I don't think I would have done that much more different. Maybe I would have explained it. Try to get everybody understanding more of what I was trying to do in the room. We almost did something. I almost sent an email out to the not like I was trying to just. And it just didn't happen and. But I was trying to like, kind of just so everybody's aware of what's going on and being like, like, hey, let's have. Let's have fun with this. Let's be. You know, that's just. You know, if you've ever needed a time to be just dumb and silly was like that night felt it the most. So. All right. Yeah, but that's awesome.

[D]

That's awesome. Well, great. Yeah, I guess that's it?

[C]

Yeah. Madison Square Garden. And you're at all our dates are too in August. I mean for next year. Has been released. Come out. The tour has been great. It's been super fun. You know, I talk about stopping stand up at some point, but I mean, I'm the. After this tour. I do. I mean, I. I can never promise when I'm gonna. How long I would take a break. But I. I do. I need to go make some movies. I need to go do some stuff. So I am gonna. After this run, I think I. I will be off for a while.

[A]

And.

[D]

I think you're in Florida. Also brought before Madison Square Garden a date there October 10th, 10th and 11th. I'm in Cleveland. October 30th, Rochester, New York.

[C]

Where's Cleveland?

[D]

Well, it's in Willoughby and Brunswick, which are both our suburbs of.

[C]

I would say is the name of.

[D]

Something or it's like. Let's don't get in the weeds here.

[C]

He's coming to Cleveland.

[D]

I think one of them's a flower shop.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I can't remember now.

[C]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[D]

It's like an art studio or something.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Just go to the website.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And buy the ticket that says Cleveland.

[B]

Aaron Weber here. October 5th, Atlanta, Georgia, at the New Helium Comedy Club, which I've never done before. It's an Alpharetta, technically, but it's Greater Atlanta. That's October 5th. Just one show. And then October 10th and 11th, Huntsville, Alabama, levity Live. I haven't been there when it's Levity Live yet.

[C]

Yet.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Or the full on. Like the stage is different and everything now. So come Huntsville in Atlanta.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah. I heard the food prices and the drinks are cost less now.

[B]

They've gone down.

[A]

Yes, yes. I'm gonna be next weekend. I'm in Hartford, Connecticut at the Funny Bone. I'm gonna be there with our friend Zach Townsend. That's going to be exciting. So do come check that out. And then I got a lot more dates on the 30th. I'm at Zanies. I got another short. Zanies 30th. So very exciting of September. Yeah. Is that what month we're in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

All right. Yeah, right over here. Ryan Hamilton, special Seattle Vandy. Vandy Boy. We're doing. It's fun.

[B]

Y' all are scary, man.

[C]

It's fun. Yeah. It's a fun, fun. It's a fun time.

[D]

I'm happy for you guys. Finally get your first win.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Too.

[D]

I'm happy you guys yeah.

[C]

It's hard to win. Yeah. All right. F's back. Thank you. Love you. Have a great week. Bye.

[A]

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