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Chad
Welcome to the Necessary Conversation midweek edition. We have just me and my mom today. In these midweek episodes, we usually show each other video clips from the other side of our media bubbles. We try to penetrate each other's spheres of influence with some information and some videos from the other side. Mom, I always ask you for three videos. This week. You sent me 10.
Mom
Okay, I apologize again. The problem is this. So when I find my clips, I send them to my email. Because you have an Android. I cannot send them from my iPhone to your Android doesn't let me. So I have to send them to my email, and then they usually go into trash. So then I have to go into the trash to put them inbox to send to you.
Chad
Okay.
Mom
And those 10 are probably duplicates because I think some had gone to trash and you wouldn't have received them. So I redid them so I resent them.
Chad
You can text them to me.
Mom
How do I do that? You have an Android. I can't usually do that except text links.
Chad
Yeah, you just click Share on Instagram or whatever app you're on.
Mom
Mm.
Chad
And then you. It'll pull up your. What do you use for your text messages? Whatever that.
Mom
My. I. My iPad will not let me send you messages to your phone. My iPad will not. Because you have an Android.
Chad
I see. These are the problems we face. Well, nonetheless, we have three clips from you. I don't know if they're the right clips. I. I. You told me to get the most. The three most recent ones, so that's what I did. I. Of your list of 10, I also have three clips. Where would you like to start?
Mom
Doesn't matter to me.
Chad
All right. I don't know what these are, although I see, like, I can see the little thumbnail, so I know one of yours is about Trump at the Knicks game. Yeah, I also have a clip about that or some clips about that. So that may be primarily what we're talking about here, but here's the first clip you sent me. Let's see what this is.
Laurie Chavardini
Horses are prey animals. Their characteristics are exactly the same characteristics of someone with ptsd. So when you partner those two, there is an amazing healing.
Mom
Laurie Chavardini, a licensed clinical social worker and certified military counselor, runs this free therapy program.
Laurie Chavardini
When the horses are partnered with the veterans that come in the. With all kinds of pain and symptoms, the horses can ground them. It is the time mostly that they can find peace when they're in the presence of the horses.
Mom
I'm smiling. I'm wondering if you.
Laurie Chavardini
If you observe it.
Mom
You actually can tell.
Laurie Chavardini
Definitely you can tell.
Mom
Tell me what you see.
Laurie Chavardini
Usually when they come on property, they might be agitated, upset, activated for a variety of reasons. And within probably five minutes you can see them begin to relax and calm down.
Mom
And I felt it myself when Laurie got me to stroke this gentle giant named Clifford.
Laurie Chavardini
Leslie, look at his eyes. He's starting to close his eyes. That's a reflection of your energy.
Mom
Oh, Clifford, we are communicating.
Chad
This was Leslie communicating with Clifford there, stroking the giant.
Mom
Clifford, this was the horse video that I wanted you to play last as feel good. But anyway, because the other two, the other ones were on Trump. Yeah, the. The reason I like this, on our last podcast there was a question directed toward me about our shiny hiney and the girl's horse's name was Honey that asked me that question and I thought her horse was very cool. Horses are prey animals. They, you know, they can be taken down by four legged lions, mountain lions, whatever. So they're prey animals. So they are fight. Fight or flight is what they do.
Chad
Taken down by two legged lions.
Mom
4, 5, 6. So fight or flight is. Is what horses do. Those PTSD soldiers, same thing. Fight or flight. That's why there's such good horse programs for veterans out there and other people that might have that need. Horses are amazing. I love them. And I just wanted to show that because of that lady last week that did that nice question to me with Honey the horse.
Chad
So this was more of a PSA just telling us horses are cool. Horses look into them. Okay, let's move on to your next clip. Are you ready?
Mom
I hope it's a Trump one.
Chad
Yes, two of three. I. Well, it looks like it has. I can't tell from this with the thumbnails. Sorry.
Jonathan Gregory
Washington, D.C. is in shock. In a stunning reversal, seven FBI agents planted inside the January 6, 2021 crowd have turned state's evidence blowing the lid off what they describe as a coordinated entrapment operation. These operatives claim they were directed to blend in with peaceful Trump supporters, urge people into restricted zones and assist in breaching capital barriers, all while then Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office was kept fully briefed and signed off on the provocative tactics. Disturbingly, Pelosi allegedly rejected repeated requests for additional National Guard protection despite clear intelligence warnings, allowing the staged chaos to unfold exactly as planned. A deliberate stand down order to Capitol police reportedly gave the agents room to provoke confrontations. As one senior source stated, Nancy Pelosi didn't just know about the setup, she helped orchestrate it to weaponize the Capitol against Trump and his supporters. This bombshell is set to trigger the immediate dismissal of hundreds of January 6th cases and open the floodgates for major civil rights lawsuits against the FBI and Democratic leadership. The trap has finally been exposed. Follow at TRUMP NEWS.baby @Jonathan Gregory.
Mom
Okay, there you go.
Chad
I don't know why you're laughing, baby at Jonathan Gregory. What the fuck was that?
Mom
I don't even know why you're laughing. This is now coming out in the open where there were. I told you, there were FBI informants. And in that crowd, I had seen the clips where they were opening the gates saying, come on in. And now it's out in the open and there's seven of them that have flipped and they're telling the real story. I wanted to show that to you.
Chad
Okay. Investigators found zero evidence that the FBI had any full time undercover employees acting as instigators in the protest crowds or inside the Capitol. Only three of the 26 informants who were in Washington, D.C. on that day, but not in the crowd, were officially sent to D.C. by FBI field offices. Out of the 26 informants, a total of 17 were aware of the insurrection, basically, is what this is saying. Including, okay, so four who did breach the Capitol building, only one of whom was among the three informants specifically tasked by FBI to attend.
Mom
Okay, I just wanted to show that to you because I'm seeing more and more of that now on different social media sites.
Chad
Sure.
Mom
Saying that there are FBI people that are talking.
Chad
Right. But what does that mean in your mind?
Mom
They were in that crowd and told to be there, told to allow people to come in, do whatever they wanted, told to watch what was going on. None of them were convicted of anything. And they were all there.
Chad
They were, look, no, they weren't convicted. You're right. These are not FBI agents. These are FBI informants. Okay, so that means the FBI looks at, like, all the different groups that were going to show up on January 6, many of whom are, like, local militias, white supremacists, you know, all kinds of Proud Boys type. Right. They then reach out to some of the people in those groups, to very likely people who have, like, criminal offenses stacked up against them. And the FBI says, look, we can make this charge go away. In exchange, you're going to give us information about what your group is doing. So 26 FBI confidential informants were in Washington, D.C. again, not FBI agents. This means people who are already part of those groups that the FBI conscripted to give them information.
Mom
I still Believe our government was involved and Nancy Pelosi should have stepped up and helped better. And I believe that our government was involved in that. The Democrats were allowing those people to come in.
Chad
Okay, well, hang on a minute. You're also giving me two very conflicting ideas of what happened that day. On one hand, you always tell me those people who stormed the Capitol violently and beat the shit out of cops were heroes and they should have been doing that. Now you're telling me they shouldn't have been doing it. And it was actually the Democrats and the FBI who got them to do it. So which is it? Is it a bad thing what happened that day, or is it a good thing?
Mom
I don't think they beat people up. I saw people allowing people to come in saying, come this way, Mom.
Chad
I've shown you videos on this very show of, of cops getting the kicked out of them. One guy went to the hospital. One guy died a day later from injuries sustained during this.
Mom
I, I saw clips both ways. I really did, Chad. I mean, we weren't there. We'll never know.
Chad
What do you mean clips both ways? You saw clips of violent riot and clips of no riot happening.
Mom
What do you mean violent? But people going into, like, smashing windows.
Chad
They're taking police officers, riot shields and smashing windows. How is that not violent?
Mom
I. That's violent. I also saw the people opening the gates saying, come on in. So I just wanted to show that to you.
Chad
Okay, but I'm. What I'm telling you is you're showing me this thing, and I think you're misunderstanding even the information in the thing you're showing me. This does not mean there were, like, secret FBI agents in the crowd being like, come on, let's go get them. It means they had 26 informants. These are people who are already part of whatever those groups are. The, that the FBI is saying. You're going to tell us what's going on in these groups. They are informants.
Mom
Well, let's see what they inform us about then.
Chad
Right? It's like when the FBI gets a Mafia informant, for example, right? That's not an FBI agent. That's some person who's already in the Mafia. And they go to that person, they're like, look, we got you over a barrel. We know that you are importing drugs or whatever. We have you for some crime so we can make these charges go away. If you become an informant for us, you flip. And now you're gathering information about the, the group you're in and giving it to us. That's what an informant is.
Mom
I hear what you're saying.
Chad
Okay, you have one more clip here. Are you ready?
Laurie Chavardini
Yes.
Mom
I hope it's the Trump one. We haven't got there yet.
Chad
We just watched that one, right? Yeah. Okay, so this is your next clip, I believe. Here we go. Okay.
Mom
Okay. You haven't showed my good Trump ones, but that's okay.
Chad
That one, the final. These were the three that were your most recent ones that you told me to play.
Mom
Okay. There should be another one after that. But anyway, that was a chant. That was a chant that nobody really showed except on a couple. It was on Instagram. It was on Tik Tok. Usa. Usa. Usa. They were saying that. Now. I also saw another clip where as his motorcade was coming to the game, people outside with signs, USA chanting, you know, good things. But then I did see a few protests of something. I think the people that were upset that he was there, I are the ones that had to stand in line for like, two and a half, three hours to go through security because everybody had to be very well checked because he was going to be there. But the clip that I wanted to show you, another man said it's his right. He's a citizen. If he wants to attend that game, he has every right to do it, and it should be secure for him due to the fact that he is the president.
Chad
But the thing you're. You're missing, like, sure, he's a citizen. He has every right to do it, but he doesn't give a about other people he doesn't care about. Like, there are some people who love basketball so much. The NBA Finals, it's their Super Bowl. It's the thing that they kind of build their entire year toward. And getting one of those tickets to go to that game is like, obviously not everybody can afford it. They're thousands of dollars. And so these are people who have put their life on hold maybe to do something crazy to get them money, sell something. I don't know. There's. There's a million stories of people trying to attend one of these games. For them, it is kind of like the moment of a lifetime. For him, it's just like a phone call that he makes. I want to go to the game. Make it happen. And then they have to shut down whatever it was, five blocks all the way around the game. Everybody gets inconvenience for security. It's like he doesn't care about how that will affect other people's lives. That's kind of why people were pissed. And you're showing me a clip where people are chanting usa I got a clip to show you where they were not chanting usa I know.
Mom
I did see it on TV too. There were some booze, some. There were some booze, huh? But then there was stuff like that too.
Chad
So let's watch this clip. Okay, let's watch this clip.
Mom
Okay.
Chad
So some booze. They put his picture during the national anthem. They put his picture up on the jumbotron, the entire arena, and they had to yank his face off the Jumbotron instantaneously or they were gonna have a riot.
Mom
Your dad and I were watching that. We were watching it live. And when they showed his face, I was like, is that booze or is that cheers? What is that? Dad goes Google it. So I googled it, and of course, two minutes later it said it was booze.
Chad
Yeah.
Mom
Then I kept googling and it said it was mixed. There were cheers, there was usa but there were booze.
Chad
Right? Like I said, that clip that I just watched and heard of my own damn ears was a whole arena of people booing the shit out of him for all the reasons we're talking about. He inked, inconvenienced all those people he shut down. There were like watch parties and stuff, at least that I've read about that were scheduled to be held in like, bars and restaurants and stuff in that area. All that had to be shut down. So he people's entire lives up that night. And for what? So he could go there? And what did he do with the game? Let's take a look at that.
Mom
Here we go. We know what he did. So you say.
Chad
Like, on top of it all, he himself clearly doesn't give a about this. He's just doing it as a publicity sign. He's literally asleep at one of. It was like that game too was like, how could you sleep during that game? It was insane. It was such a good game. So close. The spurs barely pulled out. Now people are saying that he's a curse, that he made the Knicks lose.
Mom
I don't see it that way. I think he shut his eyes for like 15 seconds. Everybody went nuts that he was asleep at the game. His eyes were shut for a while. Yes, they were. You can see it.
Chad
Yeah, but when you're saying that he shut his eyes for 15 seconds. Do you ever do that? Just shut your eyes for 15 seconds?
Mom
I'm not a napper during the day. I don't nap during the day.
Chad
Okay. I'm saying he's not shutting his eyes for 15 seconds. That fucker is asleep. And this is constant. We. Our whole last Sunday episode, I called it Sleepy time because he fell asleep during that meeting where he was farting on people. This man can't fucking stay awake now. And that's the exact same thing that you would accuse Joe Biden of and say, this is why he can't be president. He can't even stay sleepy. Joe. Blah, blah, blah. Donald Trump has been asleep on camera more times than Joe Biden ever was, and you seem to have no problem with it.
Mom
I think he's working all night trying to save our country and trying to get out of this dumb war that we're in. Just today I heard, wait a minute,
Chad
wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. There's a lot we have to unpack there. You said he's working all night. He's posting crazy shit on Truth Social all night. That's evidence. He's doing 20 to 30 posts of complete bullshit per night. AI stuff. That video of him everybody loves. Trump, him eating ice cream cones. And in Italy, that's what he's doing all night long, posting these inane things to his social media. He's not working. Then you said to get us out of the stupid war we're in. He started that war. He got us into it.
Mom
We should be out of here by now. We should be out of this war.
Chad
Yeah, yeah. We should have never started it. You could say that as well.
Mom
I can't say that because once we were in, we were in it, but now we need out of it. I do believe that, but we're not
Chad
going to get out of it. He's talking about, I saw something the other day. This was yesterday. I'm sure we'll talk about this on Sunday, but the Iranians shot down an Apache helicopter, one of our helicopters. The pilots and stuff survived and are safe, thankfully. Then we launched a counterattack on them. And Trump is still maintaining that the ceasefire is in effect. He's like, well, the ceasefire's still there, but it's, you know, it's like, what, bro? They shot down one of our helicopters and then we fired back. How is there a ceasefire? So he's openly lying, even about the state of negotiations and the ceasefire and all that shit. I don't think we're ever getting out of this world.
Mom
Then he said today he's going to hit him hard back today. So it's not making sense, kind of what he's doing. I did Want to bring up, when you said they hit our Apache that went down, did you read how those guys were rescued?
Chad
No, I didn't.
Mom
Kind of cool. A drone, A drone ship went right in and they got right on and came right out. I think that's what I read. Pretty cool.
Chad
It's interesting. I mean, we're. For what it's worth, I'm. I'm always like, I put a lot of faith in technology because I would say technology and like, generally the human population being, like, made more comfortable. Throughout the long span of human history, those two things seem to, like, always be moving forward. And when you're looking at the technology that we have now, that's kind of burgeoning, it's nascent AI. I know everybody's afraid of it. And whatever, whatever AI is in the very beginning, the infancy of its existence is going to be so much more powerful, even in five, 10 years. You look at robotics are a bunch of companies right now making humanoid robots that can do some pretty impressive stuff. And I know, like, the, the fail videos of the robots not able to walk up the stairs or they fall down or they kick a little kid in the stomach or whatever. All of those get most of the attention online. But the fact of the matter is we now have, like, in Los Angeles, there are cars that drive themselves that you can just order on your phone. You can order food, and it will be delivered to you by a little robot. And now there are these humanoid robots that a bunch of different companies are making for a wide variety of purposes. All of that combined with where AI is going, I think means. And you're telling me now they're rescuing these guys with drones. It's like, in the near future, the United States military, or even any global military, may not contain a human being other than oversight. And that, I think, would be good. But also it means that it's the military industrial complex, kind of like it falls by the wayside. Because there is a need for any government's military to basically press the citizens into service. It needs to, like, take care of a percentage of the people saying, like, you must be soldiers, basically, in places like Israel, it's mandatory. Here it's not.
Mom
So you're saying, you're saying there's never. There might not be boots on the ground ever.
Chad
Robot boots again.
Mom
Robots.
Chad
Yeah, potentially. But then I'm also like that. I just think that that would be. I. I just don't know if we could do it financially. And I know that that is more important to the United States government. Than anything because they need to be able to, like, have a certain percentage of the human or the US Population in military service. They need that to be the case. So I'm not sure how it'll all
Mom
work, but robots are all over the place. The other night on, I think it was America's Got Talent, maybe a guy came out nervous, like, okay, what are you gonna do? Dude? He had, like, 20 robots that danced with him, and it was awesome. Yeah.
Chad
And there's a bunch of, like, drone shows and stuff that people do now where it's like a big swarm of little tiny drones that are all, like, pre programmed mathematically, will fly around and do a light show and like, form 3D images of people and stuff like that. And those, as drones get smaller and faster and cheaper and their battery life is longer. We. I think we're very close to a time we. When each one of us will have a personal drone that just follows us and records everything that goes on in our day.
Mom
I would like that. I need one now.
Chad
Yeah, well, I mean, they have them now. The battery life just isn't 24 hours. And they're maybe like, that big. It has to shrink down to, like, this big. And the battery life has to be 24 hours. And it. In my opinion, it will come with your cell phone, and then you just hit a button and it'll fly around, you know, five feet from you and just record everything you do.
Mom
I probably won't see it in my lifetime, but that would be cool.
Chad
I. You may. I think it's going to be the next couple years. Something like that's going to happen. Drones are getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. The cameras are getting better. Anyways, I want to go back to this, what we were talking about Trump at this basketball game. So this has fallen asleep again, and you seem to have no problem with it.
Mom
No, I don't. I do have a problem, but. Okay, what if he did just snooze for a second, shut his eyes. Y' all are making a big deal about it.
Chad
No. What do you mean, making a big deal about it? Mom, do you remember when Joe Biden would have weird moments where, like, clearly he was in cognitive decline or he would look a little tired or whatever. You and dad would fucking light me and Haley. He's a piece of. He needs to be kicked out of there. He ain't fit to be president. But you're not having that same reaction to Trump, who is now literally falling asleep on camera every day.
Mom
Well, Joe Biden was falling down, and it was hard to watch that. I think if you're falling down, that's a sign maybe that something's not good.
Chad
So it's falling down, not being asleep on camera.
Mom
So far, Trump's snoozing. He has not fallen down yet. Once he starts falling down, then, yeah, not good.
Chad
This is classically. You do this a lot too, moving the goal posts. So you'll say like with Biden, you'll be like, he's falling asleep. He's unfit to be president. Then Trump starts doing that and it's like, well, he's falling asleep, but he's not falling down. That's actually the thing that I cared about. But when Biden was falling asleep, you cared about falling asleep. Now you don't, and it's falling down. And then once Trump falls down, it'll be something else. Well, that's okay. Let's see him in a debate. That's where Biden really up is going to that debate. And he looked like, if Trump can still debate, he can, he can fall asleep and fall down. Then let's just see if he can still debate. You'll always move the goalpost.
Mom
I don't see it that way at all. But that's okay. If that's what you believe, you're literally doing it.
Chad
I mean, I don't. It's not about belief. I'm watching you do it.
Mom
Okay.
Chad
I'm just, I'm getting to the, the point of that kind of line of reasoning is I guess you don't see it. You don't see that you're doing that. But do you think, like, I saw,
Mom
like, Joe Biden have to be ushered around by like the Easter bunny off the stage with his wife Jill? I saw him.
Chad
Trump has had moments like that. When Trump was in Japan, he was wandering around aimlessly. This was earlier this year, I believe, and had to be led by the hand by whoever the person was. I forget if it was like a high ranking Japanese governmental official or it might have been an aide or something. Somebody had to come get him and like, lead him by the hand. Come this way, sir. I did have these moments. I'm just saying, like you, you seem unable to apply a kind of uniform theory of scrutiny to both Trump and Biden. When Biden does something in your mind, it's way worse than when Trump does the exact same thing. In fact, when Trump does the exact same thing, you excuse it and say, well, it doesn't matter. Let's see if he does this other thing.
Mom
I am not saying President Trump fall down and have to be helped up yet. I haven't seen that.
Chad
But that fine. But you have seen him fall asleep many times on camera and that was one of your main complaints against Biden.
Mom
He is falling.
Chad
Donald Trump called him Sleepy Joe because of that.
Mom
So they need to call him Sleepy Trump, I guess.
Chad
Okay, I have one more clip here. This one has to do with the UFC and potentially why Trump is actually having this ufc. Here we go. You just got sickening new information on why Trump is really hosting a UFC match and building a cage that looks like a baby playmat. You see his family license his name and image to create these coins commemorating the event. They're made with one ounce of gold, currently valued at $4,200, but they're being sold for $12,000. This is where Trump belongs, not here. So have you seen this? He has put out these coins that you can buy for $12,000. They say 250 on it for America's 250th birthday. It has a picture of his head and a picture of Dana White's head is on the little plastic thing that's in. Dana White is the president of the UFC and he's selling it for $12,000. Where do you think that money goes?
Mom
And it's worth how much?
Chad
4, 200 is is what that dude said.
Mom
I have no idea. It's going to him. I guess him and Google this right
Chad
now because I'm not actually sure about this. Profits from the sales of The Trump branded UFC Freedom 250 coins benefit DTTM Operations LLC. That's Trump. That's his, his company. So he is using this to just make money personally off that with this little coin.
Mom
Well, I will not be buying one of those. You can be for sure. We won't buy one of those.
Chad
Okay, you won't buy one. But like what do you think that says about him as a president?
Mom
Maybe it's like he's using it as a fundraiser or something for him or other for himself.
Chad
Yeah, it's just like the Bible and the shoes and the cologne and the stakes, the hats.
Mom
But that's a businessman, right? That's what businessmen do.
Chad
But you're, you're. And you say that a lot about him. You forgive this of him, that he is just stealing money from people. So do you think that, that for. Let's just like base level. Do you think a four thousand dollar gold coin that only has his face on it and Dana White's face on it makes it worth Three times its actual value?
Mom
No, I don't. But if you. I don't want to say if you're stupid enough to do that. I'm not going to buy that because I know the value. I would buy something from him if I knew I could hang on to it and it would be greater value later.
Chad
You think the cologne you bought is going to be of greater value?
Mom
Yes, I do. I do someday.
Chad
No, you don't.
Mom
Yes, I do.
Chad
Okay, so you're looking at this as a collectible investment.
Mom
I'm going to sell it on ebay or something later. That's what I'm looking at.
Chad
Holy shit. The. Okay, so right there, he's already trying to grift people. This is like a. A scheme to make money. So you're saying he's a businessman. Yes, but he's the president who started a war that we're now in. Shouldn't he be putting all of his effort toward figuring that out?
Mom
Yes. I'm not real happy right now with that. You know that.
Chad
Okay, so instead, he's going to the Knicks game and up everybody's life, falling asleep at it. He's making this weird coin with Dana White. Like, that requires meetings. That requires time for him to weigh in and say, like, put my head up there. I want it to look like this. Charge $12,000 for it. That's time away from the war in Iran that he is using his effort to try and make this thing that's going to net his family more money. It's all his entire presidency is about making money for himself. And then even the idea of the coin. Which did he have first the idea for the coin, and then he's like, and to promote this, we'll do a UFC at the White House. Or did the UFC at the White House thing happen? Then he's like, and we'll make a coin, right? It could be the other way. It could be that he's like, how can I make some money with Dana White and the ufc? Here's what we'll do. We'll have a ufc. We'll sell the TV rights to. I think CBS is going to broadcast it, of course, because they're owned by the Ellison family now. And then we'll sell this coin. He's doing this to steal money from everyone. That's all he gives a about.
Mom
But can't people Google and see it isn't worth that amount of money? And they won't buy it.
Chad
Mom, you and dad have already bought several items that are not worth anything because they have the Trump name on them.
Mom
I know, but they didn't cost that much.
Chad
Fine, but. But in a large enough number of people buying them, it gives him millions of dollars. He is the only people buying his are MAGA people. These are the people that elected him. He's now stealing money from MAGA with these stupid products.
Mom
I swear that product, in like maybe 10 years or whatever will be worth a lot more. Maybe he's doing it for that. I don't know.
Chad
What product.
Mom
The coin things, I don't think it will be. We'll see.
Chad
He's already selling it for three times. The innate value of the materials in it. How much it would have to appreciate over time to even close that gap, I don't know.
Mom
I do want to get back to that game, though. You were saying so many people were put out that he came and all that. Yeah, they were upset because of the security that they had to go through. I do believe that there have been other presidents at other games that have went set in the front row. No one gave trouble to them for going to games that they wanted to attend, which I'm sure they had to have high security at those games too.
Chad
Sure. But I mean, there's a big piece of this that you're missing entirely. It's not just about the security and the inconvenience and all of that. People hate him.
Mom
Yeah. He has the. There are people there that do hate him. I do believe that. But that man that they hate built that city with buildings. Help build New York back in the day. Make that. He made that city what it is today.
Chad
Okay. I mean, strong disagree. From my understanding, his dad was a big real estate tycoon who gave him his fortune and then he proceeded to effectively go bankrupt multiple times in multiple endeavors. He's actually a bad businessman.
Mom
Okay.
Chad
Until now. But even the thing he's doing now is just straight grift. A lot of it's fucking illegal. All the insider trading stuff he's doing, which he's doing on a daily basis, illegal. Even this coin, to some degree, it's not insider trading, nor is it illegal, I guess. But like him buying stock in the UFC before all of this is happening, him knowing that that deal is being made and they're trying to finalize it, buy the stock. That's insider trading. Yeah, it's illegal. It's a crime.
Mom
I know.
Chad
So most of the money that he's making is either from this illegal insider trading or it's another illegal means of getting the money he is giving Preferential treatment to all these different foreign countries. And they are just giving him billions of dollars through his cryptocurrency. That happened with. Was it Qatar or Saudi Arabia, one of those two countries, I guess it was. Qatar gave him the jet. Right. And Saudi Arabia just bought a bunch of his cryptocurrency. And in exchange, they gave him, like, I. I want to say it was $2 billion in cryptocurrency. They bought his Trump coin, that money goes to him. Then what does he do? He signs the piece of paper that says you can buy these AI chips from Nvidia that you want to buy. So Nvidia who? The CEO of Nvidia went to China with him. You'll remember to secure more deals?
Mom
Yes.
Chad
That guy then gets to sell all these chips to Saudi Arabia. I think it was Saudi Arabia. I could be wrong about that. In exchange for them just giving Trump money. So he is taking bribes to allow these other countries to get access to American technology, and you have no problem with that? He's a businessman. But what about Joe Biden? When Joe Biden was supposedly taking millions of dollars from the Chinese government, wouldn't he just be a businessman then?
Mom
No. Oh, he, He. It was out in the open, but it. I don't know what's. No one did anything about that. So nobody's doing anything about this.
Chad
No, but what's the difference? You. You claim Trump is a businessman when he's doing these shady things, but when Biden was doing it, I don't think.
Mom
I don't think Biden was selling things for money. He wasn't selling cologne and stuff like that. He was just taking the money.
Chad
That's what Trump is doing. That's what I'm telling you. When Trump gets money for his cryptocurrency, he's not selling anything. It. Cryptocurrency, largely, at least as Trump is using it, is like money laundering. It's a way that foreign countries can just give him money, and then he does whatever they want. He allows them to buy America products or whatever. He eases their sanctions. There's a million different things that he does that are quid pro quo for these things, but it's the exact same thing. They're just giving him money. He's being paid off.
Mom
I need to look more into some of that. A lot of that I will.
Chad
But you won't. Okay, well, that wraps up our midweek episode. Thank you for doing this with me, Mom. I do love you. I find it wild that you don't think Trump was booed at the basketball game that you thought they were cheering. USA. USA.
Mom
There were some booze, but there were some USAs, too. I do believe that. Yeah.
Chad
Well, I love you, Chad.
Mom
Yeah, I love you. And, oh, yeah, you told me I could say this if I wanted. I had to get out this morning. We need a new refrigerator. And I went to a local store. I won't say the name of it, but I came around the corner and a very sweet lady. And, man, they were. You know, they had on their orange little vests. And I waited till they got done talking, and I said, you're like, I
Chad
won't say what hardware store it is, but they were wearing orange vests.
Mom
I waited till they got done speaking to each other, and I said, I need some help find a refrigerator. This is what I need. And the lady, she's probably, like, 35 years old, real sweet. She looked at me, she goes, oh, you. You're the lady. Go, yes. What? She goes, you're the lady. You're the lady on the podcast. And I said, yes, I am. She goes, oh, my God. She goes, can I have a picture? I said, of course. I said, thank you for watching. And I said. I said, I don't look very good today. I said, I wished I had my hat. But she goes, yeah, I really would have got it if you would have had the hat on. So I'm not gonna hat out in public. But she was very sweet, and thank you for watching our show.
Chad
Well, I'm glad that you had a fun day at the unnamed hardware store
Mom
looking for a refrigerator.
Chad
Yeah. All right, well, thank you, everybody else for joining us. We will be back on Sunday with a full episode. Already a lot popping off. Like I said, there's the Apache helicopter that got shot down. There's. Oh, God, what do I have so far? There's so much already happening. It's like every week is like this.
Mom
Now, he said he's going to hit him hard today. We'll see what the news says tonight.
Chad
Yeah, we'll see. His approval rating is in the toilet. Lowest it's ever been. Iran shot down. The Apache helicopter falling asleep, the NBA Finals. Rubio announced. I don't know if you saw this, that they're gonna do UFC fights at the White House for diplomacy.
Mom
Oh, my gosh.
Chad
So now they're talking about, like, setting up matches, keeping that thing there, basically, and setting up matches every once in a while with other countries. I don't know how the that's gonna work. We've got Trump denaturalizing citizens. He shuts down New York to attend the basketball game. Spencer Pratt lost. And the Republicans are now calling for the cancellation of federal funds to California because Spencer Pratt lost.
Mom
That was one thing I wanted to talk about.
Chad
Yeah, stupid.
Mom
I know.
Chad
We'll talk about it on Sunday. I mean, he never had.
Mom
All right.
Chad
Anyway, we'll talk about those things on Sunday. Thank you for joining us. We will see you then.
Mom
Bye.
Podcast: The Necessary Conversation
Host: Chad (with his Mom)
Date: June 10, 2026
This midweek episode of The Necessary Conversation centers on "family therapy through politics," where Chad and his mom exchange and challenge each other's political media bubbles using curated video clips. The main themes include:
This episode is a microcosm of modern American political discourse: entrenched media bubbles, shifting narratives, and the difficulty of applying objective standards across party lines. Chad and his mom embody the complexity of honest, necessary family conversations about politics—blending exasperation, skepticism, affection, and occasional humor. The overall mood is contentious but underpinned by a commitment to continued dialogue.