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Welcome to the Necessary Conversation midweek edition. With me today is my famous sister.
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Hi.
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Hello.
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Hey.
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Our mom, Mary Lou, is dealing with our dad and his health issues. So it's just us today, just the lib sibs. But it is a very special lib sibs because Haley, you have once again gone viral.
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Yes, yes.
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Thank you for work you're doing on Instagram. Now tell us, give us the, the outline here of what has happened. Then we're going to look at the posts that has got you to this point.
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Okay, let me set the scene so
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there's a timeline too. How long has this taken?
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So 4th of July occurred and we decided the bakery like this, we're not running red, white and blue. I already explained that on our last podcast. I'm just not feeling it right. Like everybody feels oppressed and just. I'm kind of in a. A depressed state about the way that the country is. So I wrote as much on my bakery page, Hive Bakery. You know, it got a little traction or whatever and then it was shared. I don't even, I. I go to work on Tuesday after the 4th of July and actually it was Monday. I went in on Monday. It was my day off because I had to do some shit up there. And the phone is just like ringing off the hook. I mean, I'm talking like, like rapid fire secession. It's not stopping. It's like the, the last time this happened it was Libs of TikTok and I was like, what happened? Where did they share me?
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For those who don't know, Libs of TikTok is a, an alt right account across every major platform. It's on Tik Tok, obviously, Instagram, Twitter, blah, blah, blah. And they aggregate stories and posts of liberal people basically, and say these people, because they are far right, right, they
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try to get like teachers fired and businesses shut down. Like they're the most vile, you know, account, in my opinion. Anyway, so the phones ring. I'm like, oh, who? What? When? Why? So I have this woman that works in my bakery, her name's Kat. She won't care if I say her name. She likes it. And I was like, bitch, you better Sherlock this shit. What happened? So within 30 seconds she's like, boom. Sends me all of the articles, all of the shit lives of TikTok shared our post.
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Yeah.
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And you know, like every fucking maga, like rabid maniac is just sharing it like wildfire. So it hits, it's viral. Phone is ringing off the hook. So I go in on Tuesday, I have to answer like 200 emails that day on our day off. And they're all just like, you're a fat. I hope your business burns down. I mean, like crazy though. One of them was like, yeah, well, I believe in your right to freedom of speech. Just like I believe in my second amendment rights. I was like, does that mean you're wanting to fucking shoot me? Yeah, so just like wild shit. Of course, you know, the red hair, tattoos, you're a skank, all that shit. Anyway, so like 200 of those, bro. And I screenshotted all of them. They're quite amazing. So I go to work on Tuesday and the phone is just like ringing off the hook and it's all that kind of shit. Yeah, like you even know what a fascist is. You're a fascist and it's like no good information. It's all like 12 year old, you know, bully shit. But at some point, you know, we just started having fun with it and we were singing Michael Jackson songs to them on the other line and like, they don't know how. Oh any. It started out. Who's bad? They don't appreciate that. But yeah, you know, at some point you just laugh because it's gonna happen all day. I'm the one answering the phone because I have like minors in my kitchen. And like, you know women, the shit they say is like, if you got some thin skin, it's going to get to you. So I made sure to answer the phone all day long, but it was relentless. Nonstop emails. I'm still fucking answering them. And they're intertwined with like actual orders, so I must get through them. So then if that wasn't bad enough, Fox News runs the story. I was like, this Fox News, Unreal.
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You made it to Fox. You made it to the big time.
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Made it to Fox. Then the New York Post runs the story. Then I get an email from the Dallas Morning News. So it's just like all of this is popping off. Yeah, you know, and like locally, Jesus Christ. There's a group here, I think it's pretty much nothing but maga, but it's like a local group in my town of Flower Mound and they all hate me. So I got screenshots of all these. Because it's public information at this point. People need to know that, like, this is your neighbor. This is where you go to get your nails done. Like, these people are sick. So I got all those screenshots. Flo. Hey. Yeah. So locally, like, you know, it was also popping off. We sold out of all of our Merch. I have nothing left to give.
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Yeah, that, that to me is the craziest part of this. They don't get that, like this type of exposure actually helps you a great deal. It immediately sells out all your stuff on the day that it goes viral and, and just it brings more attention to you. So it's going to bring you a larger audience for your, your bakery and anything else you're gonna do.
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I mean, I've never not been this person, you know, this is not, this is old news. Like I've been doing this on my platform for eight years. We've built this community of like minded people who appreciate that. We like speak out, you know, about the shit that's happening in the world and that's who I want to be surrounded with. I don't want these on the other end, like my second amendment right. It's like you, I don't want you in my bakery anyway, so, you know, there is no loss here. There is no loss. Please do stay away. I don't want you in my bakery.
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Yeah.
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So for me it's, it's a win altogether. But again, if you cannot handle like insults and criticisms and death threats, this ain't for you. Because it's relentless. It's like around the clock.
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Well, let's take a look at the post that you made that got you all of this attention. This is what? No, it's text. Like it's not even a video. That's what was crazy to me. It's like somebody read this and got so incensed that it went on Libs of Tik Tok and everybody goes crazy. It's literally a text post on Instagram. Yeah, let's take a look. Here it is just a picture of a. What is that? A cookie with some frosting on it that has a bunch of berries.
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That's a cheesecake. Come on.
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Oh, sorry. It's a cheesecake and it says this is the caption. We're not feeling patriotic. The fourth of July seems ridiculous given the state of the country. We've never been more embarrassed of what America has become. We will be open this fourth fully stocked with plenty of desserts, but please forgive our non festive attitudes. You even asked for them to forgive it, but it's not like you're being an about it. You're like, look, this is just how we want to do it. To forgive our non festive attitudes. As we sift through the ashes of the country we once were, we'll continue to fight for our rights using our freedom of speech and protest, which are honestly the most American things you can do. We'll continue to use our voice, but with the hope that this. What is that? Oh, fascist administration. Will crumble and democracy will be restored once more. There isn't a lot to celebrate this weekend. We continue to mourn the great country we could have been. Come see us for a slice of momentary bliss.
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And so now, all of a sudden, she hates America. She hates soldiers. She hates everything. No, I want. I would love for America to come back. I just feel like we're in the. You know what I'm saying?
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Like, it's crazy. I mean, like, on this show, you've said way more insane than that post, and that post is what set them off. I guess it's because it's an active declaration that you're not. You're unwilling to celebrate the fourth of July. Maybe that's like the. You said that on the show, too. There are clips of that.
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I know. It's. It's. They love to hate. Of course. It's, like, what they do. They need the enemy. And. And, you know, I'm public enemy number one, like, in this town that's, like, full of my job because they don't know where else to place it, so I get the heat. But, yeah, I've said, like, way more salacious than that. I didn't even think it was that bad. That's why I was like, why is this phone ringing? What did I say? I didn't even. I had no concept of, like, I. I had no idea that was gonna happen.
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It's also like the. You know, for lack of a better term, I guess the snowflakiness of the right. That is just like, this person made a Instagram post. And now hundreds of phone calls harassing you at all hours. What was the Fox News angle? Did you watch the story? They did, yeah.
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It was like, she's embarrassed of America and called MAGA a culture. Well, facts are facts.
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Yeah, agree.
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Glad you posted that. Post it again. Run it, because you are. They are a fucking cult. And I'll say it again. Yeah, it's insane. I don't know, the. The idea that, like, they want to shut me down, but you want to keep, like, billionaire corporations in business. Yeah. You know, the anger is always. It's directed in the wrong. Wrong place. You know, I have freedom of speech, and I have every right to, like, not want to celebrate the fourth of July. That. Does that mean my business should be sh. Shut down? Like, why aren't you mad at Target? Who rolled back all the dei. Well, you are my job, you know, but there's other things that you can channel this toward.
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Of course. But, I mean, that's kind of one of the. The key tenets of MAGA and, like, how the Republican Party at this point, even maintains power is by always deflecting blame for any ills in society to whoever their perceived enemy is at this point. I mean, in this case, for you, it's just like a lib. A commie.
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Exactly.
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You know, whatever they want to call it.
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Right.
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But it's like, the true enemy always in. In contemporary America is the billion, the oligarchy.
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Yeah.
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And so as long as they've got people mad at you, a small business owner who's just, like, making her stuff, then they won't be mad at the billionaires who are robbing them blind, setting up a data center, you know, two blocks away from their drinking water source, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Exactly. But I congratulate you on this. I remember. I don't remember. What was the video or something. You posted something that. This happened before. What was that?
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So the first time I that post, you know, I got lots of, like, terrible messages posted on my Facebook, on my Instagram. So I screenshotted them, then I read them. I, like, place them over baked goods, and I read them. That's the video that you're talking about. Yeah.
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Yeah, I remember that one. That was a good one.
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So I read some of those.
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Well, do you want to read some of the reactions you've gotten? I'm very curious.
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I got so. And a lot of them, like, look at. I don't know if you can tell, but, like, some of them are, like. They're giving me novels. Okay. They're trying to, like, educate me. Let me get some of the shorter ones.
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And these are just DMS that, like, the Hive Bakery account is getting.
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These are emails. They took time to email me. Okay. Hello, Hayley. You have destroyed your business. Start looking for the exit. You. You clearly exemplify the septum theory. Couldn't happen to a nice girl. A septum theory?
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What's that?
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That all girls with septum piercings. This thing right here are, you know, like, liberal trash.
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Okay.
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Anyway, couldn't happen to a nicer girl. Eat shit and die. Hang on. Yeah, a lot of them are, like, like, really bad. A lot of them are that, like, you can always leave the country. It'd be better for everyone, you know, wild to me.
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I like. I. I coach players to infiltrate the Bachelor franchise and other dating franchises.
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Yeah.
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And similarly they will get death threats and, and emails and DMS just like this if they do something in the game that is perceived to be like, against the better rules of the game for the wrong reasons, basically. And I'm always just like astounded that people don't understand that shit's not real. Reality television is complete fabrication.
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Right.
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People will sit down, take the time to fire off one of these emails, one of these death threats or whatever. It's like, what do you have nothing else to do with your day?
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That is the question. The.
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It's insane.
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You're a vile, ugly pig. You look like shit with those ugly ass tattoos and red hair. You love to mutilate kids, you scum.
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What? Mutilate kids? What is that about?
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I don't know. Hello? You disgusting piece of Arler cunt.
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Jesus Christ. And there was nothing to the rest of the message, just a hello.
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That's just it.
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Okay.
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That's just it. Hang on. There's so. There are so many. I'm trying to look for like the shorter ones.
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Sure.
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God.
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And so.
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Oh, here's. I'm gonna do my best to make sure my friends and family here in the United States avoid your bakery.
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The great. Like, it's also like, what, what is on their end psychologically? I mean, I, I kind of feel like I understand the psychology of it, but. But there's still, to me, it's like crazy to think about what do they hope to achieve when they hit send? That you shut your business down out of shame.
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Right. I would never like a day in my time do this to literally anyone ever.
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No shit.
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I'm not leaving a one star review. I'm not emailing a business, even if I'm fucking pissed. Like, I'm doing none of this. Who are these people? What is this? You hate your country means you hate your father, means you hate God. Good luck having a happy life.
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Wait, what? The fucking math of that. You hate your country, which means you equals you hate your father, equals you hate God.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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And then there's a thousand, like, I hope you go out of business. I hope your bakery burns to the ground. I could literally read these all day.
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But this is like that little lizard brain thing that. And this is really. It's a story about like how American media works currently. There are some people who love to get triggered into anger by what they perceive to be a, a position of self righteous correctness in any given thing. Politics, social things, religion, anything, whatever. And so this for them. Feeds that little lizard brain. Fox News puts out that story. New York Post puts out, oh, my God, this place. You rot in hell. I hope you die. You hate your father. You hate the United States. You hate. God Send. Right now, I'm gonna go to Chick Fil A and get me a sweet iced tea. You know, it's like they've done their. Their duty as a warrior for Christ or America or MAGA or whatever. Yeah, it just. It blows my mind that, like, there are so many people like that. But then again, it's like, we should be used to it by now. There are clearly enough of those people in America that it won Donald Trump two elections.
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I mean, yeah, they're doubling down. He was. It was. The Supreme Court said that he sexually assaulted Eugene Carroll and owes her $5 million. The Supreme Court now, they don't care. They don't give a. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I just. I don't know. Like I said, I could read these all day long. You're a traitor. If you hate the usa, why don't you go live somewhere else? You. You can't. All day long, I get these. And. And the phone. So that is, like, said to me on the phone.
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I know, it's wild. Like, they'll say all this, yet they will vote for a guy who has been convicted of sexual assault 34, financial fraud, felonies, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The list is so goddamn long. Not to mention. Are you watching all the stuff that's going on with Graham Platner right now?
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Yes.
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Okay, for those who don't know, he's. He's running for political office or maybe. I don't know if he's. I haven't checked the news today. He might be dropped out. I don't know. Yeah, but a woman that he dated some years ago has come out and said that he raped her while they were dating. And he's denying the claim. But the Democrat Party now is basically like, yo, bro, you gotta bail. We can't do this.
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Fuck you.
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And obviously, Republicans are like, oh, my God, this is amazing. You can't have this guy. This is grotesque. Blah, blah. They're so hardcore against him. Meanwhile, it's like, Donald Trump's the fucking president.
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Pete Hegseth also.
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Yes.
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The whole, like, half of this Cabinet.
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So many. Yes. And so, like, the weird double standard that they apply, like, no one calls them out on that.
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Right.
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And I don't understand that. It's like, if you don't if you're gonna go hard against Graham Platner, you got to get rid of Trump. You got to get rid of all these other people that are in your party as well.
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Exactly.
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It really to me is like, I mean, we've known this, but like in moments like this where the double standard is so clear, it's like the Republican Party is the party of sexual assault. They are down with it.
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Yeah, yeah. And, and I mean, I think that's. I made in, in one of my posts. There are several posts that I made about this because it's been all consuming for me. But you know, I said like, at this point, I feel like any rational minded Republican has kind of exited the whole mahja movement. Like they've separated themselves from it.
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Yeah.
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The ones remaining. You are disgusting. You are vile. You are accepting the fact that we have a rapist in the office and you don't care.
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But then you look at somebody like mom who is still Maga and she's not down with any of that. Just this past week she was talking about the neo Nazis and how she was against it and all that, you know, and I don't think that she supports sexual assault. So there is a portion of them, I think, that are like mom, who have just been brainwashed, tricked for so long that they can't shed that identity. They can't like step outside of the box that they have been living in for the past decade.
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I think they will, I think if, if they actually acknowledge that he's corrupt in every sense, they will leave the cult.
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Yeah, I know. I think so too. And I think the, the best evidence of it happening for me was this fourth of July thing that nobody showed up to. It's like, maga's not. It ain't what it used to be.
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No, it's, it is definitely dying. The movement is dying with him.
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Have you seen the, all the videos that have come out this week of him falling asleep with the president of Turkey? Yeah, he's slurring, he's. He's mumbling words like he doesn't know what the going on. This dude is like, there, he's there, there's that Grim reaper is holding his hand as he's walking around at this point. And I think MAGA can see it. Like there's only so much lying that you can do when it's like there's video of this guy literally dying in front of us.
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I mean, let's be real. They. They'd probably fudgeing Weekend at Bernie's ass
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they're doing it with Mitch McConnell right now. I talked to him yesterday for 17 minutes exactly. I recorded the time so that, you know, it's right. There were 17 exact minutes of speech between me and Mitch McConnell. For real. It happened, though.
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He's dead. He's dead. If he's not physically dead, he's brain dead. Like, there's nothing.
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So when Scott Jennings was the guy who said that, he spoke to him for 17 minutes. He's the right wing talking head on CNN.
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Right?
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The. Okay, so he's like, I spoke to him for 17 minutes. Do you think he's talked to him at all?
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No.
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Do you think Scott Jennings is lying or do you think they had somebody impersonate Mitch McConnell on the phone to talk to him?
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I think he's lying.
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You think he's 100 fabricating it?
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Yeah.
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And who gives that order? Why is he doing that?
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He's. He is a sycophant. He is a Trumper. Yeah, whatever. Whatever you say, My Lord.
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So somebody in the camp told him.
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Somebody in his camp said, this motherfucker's not dead yet. Tell them you spoke to him 17 minutes exactly. That's fake. He talked to no one. That's fake. The specifics of that, like, that's totally made up.
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I spoke to him for 17 minutes. I was wearing a green striped shirt. I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch that day. And not really. My left foot itched a little bit.
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B
Yeah, he's dead. And he was told to say. Say that.
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So what do you think happens to Scott Jennings then if that becomes public knowledge?
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Probably nothing.
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Nothing they keep on cnn.
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Probably.
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He. You're saying this straight, Lied about having a conversation with Mitch McConnell for 17 minutes and Cena just gonna be like, ah, whatever.
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I don't. There is no credible news source anymore.
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Right. But, like, that guy's whole career is this. It's. It's being a Republican on cnn.
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I hate him. I know I hate him. Um, I don't know. I don't know. Do they fire him? Are they gonna fire him? Who else are they gonna put in there?
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I. What? There's a million other people they can put in there. It doesn't matter. I'm just saying, like, for him to, like, go on camera being like, I talked to him for 17 minutes. He knows that this could possibly tank his entire life if he's lying about this. I think there has to be some middle step. I don't think he talked to him either, by the way, but I think he talked to somebody for 17 minutes that said, hi, I'm Mitch McConnell.
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No.
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Well, there's no way. I just don't think he goes on TV and just fudgeing straight lies.
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You don't know as much as we've been lied to by the news.
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Of course.
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You don't think that he would just. He's.
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But this is. This is a straight, easily verifiable life. He's dead. If Mitch McConnell's dead or still in a coma or whatever right now.
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B
Huh?
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That can be easily verified. And then. Oh, you said you talked to him for 17 minutes. He was in a coma or he was dead or whatever. That guy's entire career is done. His life is done. I don't know. Like, what benefit is it to him to do that? You think somebody paid him? You think the Republican National Party was like, we'll give you $1 million to say you talked to Mitch McCall, like, 17 minutes, maybe?
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Or like, we'll. We'll make sure your job's secure. Just say what we want you to say.
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Oh, my God. Yeah. That is wild to me, too.
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And they're gonna hide it from us. They're not gonna tell us he's dead probably for like a month or two.
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They're already doing it.
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Exactly.
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Weeks. His wife's in China.
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Exactly.
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And they need to drag it out until. I think the date is August 3rd. So, like, right now, if he's dead right now, that means a special election must be held in his state, which means Thomas Massie can run, and he's a Republican who, like, hates Trump and. And Trump hates him. And so if they extend Mitch McConnell's lifespan to August 3rd, there is no special election. And the Republicans who won the primaries in that state, Kentucky.
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Right.
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Get to have, like, a regular election. Thomas Massey is not in that. Because he got Primaried. Huh?
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Proof of life. I want proof of life that you have it.
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Scott Jennings talked to him for 17 minutes. That's what that is all about. That's. But there was somebody else, too. Some other Republican talked to him for 20 minutes or something. Nobody talked to him.
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He's literally dead.
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I'm just saying they have two people on the hook. Let me see who. Let me see if I can Google this quickly. They. There are two people now that are on the hook who said they talked to him. Let me see if I can get this real quick. Mitch McConnell, former aid Senate majority leader John Thune's team, who said he spoke with Mitch McConnell Monday by phone. So it's John Th. And It's Scott Jennings.
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Okay, well, they didn't. I'll maintain it. They didn't. It's all a lie.
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Yeah, I. Look. I think so, too. Have you. Have you been following it all or weighed in at all on the World
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cup, the red flag and all that?
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Yeah. Red card.
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I don't sportsball. Like, I do not gaff.
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I don't watch soccer either.
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But the only thing I know what
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a red card is now.
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Yeah. Yeah. The only thing I pay attention to was I have somebody in my bakery that's like, die Hard Mexico fan.
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Okay.
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And so I kind of looked into it, and I was really rooting for them. I wanted them to win, but they got knocked out. So, like, I don't care. Also, that Viking guy is kind of funny to watch on social media early.
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No, the thing that happened was a US Player got a red card, which means suspended from the next game.
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B
Right.
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And Trump called FIFA and was basically like, no, put him in the game. And so they did. And then the US Got hammered, knocked out of the World cup, and everybody's calling it the Trump curse.
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B
I mean, he shouldn't be able to meddle with the World Cup.
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A
No, but it's the most corrupt president the United States has ever seen and the most corrupt sports organization on the planet.
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B
Correct.
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A
So, of course they'll do whatever he might have paid him, too. Who the hell knows, right?
- [26:39]
B
Yeah. I don't care about the World Cup. I'll be real.
- [26:42]
A
Okay. Have you been following the Charlie Kirk murder case that is now underway?
- [26:48]
B
I looked at it a little bit yesterday in between sifting through my 1000 emails and hate voicemails. So, like, a little bit, I haven't really paid that much attention.
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A
The big things that have happened are a video was shown of Tyler Robinson, the. The supposed assassin, limping up the stairs to the location. I guess that's the. I mean, I don't know what that necessarily means, but supposedly he had a limp before the shooting.
- [27:18]
B
Like polio or what? I don't know, got hurt.
- [27:22]
A
I don't even know what it means or, like, why. It's just like, that was. There's a video of Tyler Robinson with a lamp walking up these stairs, and I'm like, okay, what does that mean? I don't know.
- [27:31]
B
I still don't even. I don't think it was him.
- [27:35]
A
I. I have my doubts. There are also claims that one of the Secret Service or one of the security people there that day was googling the location of that rooftop before it all happened. Nobody Knows what that means, but that's out there.
- [27:52]
B
I don't. Yeah, I don't think he did it. He's like the fall guy for whatever reason. I don't know who did it, but it wasn't him. The thing that enraged me, that was in the news this week, that was barely in the news, I guess I should say his name was Nolan Xavier Wells. Yeah, the 18 year old teenager that like just like disappeared. What the.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And now all of the kids and parents social media accounts are like, they've gone dark.
- [28:20]
A
Yep. I'm sorry, I. I read something that said the kids, for those who don't know, this was. How was this kid 18 or something?
- [28:30]
B
Yeah.
- [28:30]
A
Him and a bunch of friends went out. This is in Mississippi, I think.
- [28:34]
B
Yep.
- [28:35]
A
They went out on a, a boat for 4th of July to party and then he goes missing. The kids claim they. The last time they saw him was like at 3 o' clock or something that afternoon. But then there's video and picture of them all together until like seven that night. And then his body was found yesterday or the day before?
- [28:56]
B
Yes, day before, I think like that night.
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A
Yeah. And so they were like, oh, we don't know what happened to him. And then his body washes up, so. And now all their social media is offline and all this stuff. So it's, you know, looking like foul play. And he of course was black and all these friends were white, as was pretty much everybody there from any of the pictures that I was looking at.
- [29:20]
B
Yeah, it's looking real bad. That is maybe like the, the news story that just. I don't know, I can't stop thinking about it. Like the thought of sending your, your teenager out for like a fourth of July party, which I did. Like I had a teenager go out with her friends. The idea that like we still live in a country where if you are black and you're a teenage, you might not come home. Like that's, it's terrifying. It's just, it's. I can't believe we still live in, in a world where that exists. I don't know. I've been thinking about that a lot. It pisses me off. Nobody knows anything. Like, you can't be serious.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You were with this kid all day long and you don't know? And you even had his cell phone when you came home. You left without him.
- [30:12]
A
Yeah, they returned his cell phone to his family.
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B
I'm sorry.
- [30:16]
A
Yeah. That is very strange and suspicious.
- [30:19]
B
I don't. Something about this smells foul.
- [30:23]
A
Yeah, no, I'm curious if what will happen if there's going to be a trial or an investigation or.
- [30:29]
B
His family, like lawyered up and I read somewhere that he's like a huge name in civil rights and. Oh. So I'm hopeful that, like, there will be a proper investigation, also a proper autopsy. You remember that? I don't. Maybe like two years ago they found, I think, like a young black man who had been. He was hanging from a tree in Tennessee.
- [30:55]
A
Yeah.
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B
And they did the autopsy and like, claimed there was no foul play and like that. That he did it himself.
- [31:02]
A
Yep.
- [31:03]
B
No. No proper autopsy, proper investigation. I. I want answers. This is terrible.
- [31:10]
A
Yeah, I agree. Our country is like in, in a very shitty state in basically all respects, but the racism that exists. I mean, those. We talked about this on Sunday with the neo Nazis marching in D.C. and it's just like, still the White House has said nothing.
- [31:26]
B
Nothing, nothing.
- [31:28]
A
It's insane.
- [31:30]
B
Yeah. It's disgusting.
- [31:34]
A
Well, I think that's about all I got for our. We just did a short kind of midweek episode here. Give our mom a little bit of a break, a little time off. We'll be back Sunday with her to discuss all this, the Mitch McConnell stuff, the Trump saying, I'm the number one person on Tik Tok.
- [31:52]
B
Also, did you see that video? And then he just said, like, Iran.
- [31:57]
A
Yeah, that was today. Well, he's. You've seen what's going on there. They, they asked him this morning, is the ceasefire over? And he's like, yep, I hate those people. They're scum. And you're just like, what the, dude, are you trying to end the war or not? Like, what's going on? He's such a fucking idiot.
- [32:15]
B
I know. I hate it. I hate it. And that is why I did not celebrate the fourth of July, because fudge this guy. Fuck this administration.
- [32:22]
A
The number one guy on TikTok. Fuck Iran. There's scum. That's like in the span of a 24 hour period, this fucking idiot is bragging about being, quote, the number one guy on TikTok and then saying he's basically going to annihilate Iran. That's the world we're living in. The most powerful person on our planet, supposedly.
- [32:44]
B
Yeah.
- [32:45]
A
Cares about being number one on Tick Tock and is launching attacks with the country he started a needless war with. Now I think we're in month or week, 20 of it.
- [32:56]
B
Yeah.
- [32:59]
A
Me.
- [33:00]
B
We didn't, we didn't bring up the. So when Taylor Swift got married, I was not privy to this New slice of information. Maybe. I was. They invited that guy who, like, is the executive head of, like, a concentration camp.
- [33:15]
A
What?
- [33:16]
B
You didn't know this?
- [33:18]
A
No. Tell me. Tell me the details. What's going on?
- [33:22]
B
There's some guy that, from what I understand, Travis Kelce is friends with, like, childhood friends with someone, and that's someone's stepfather.
- [33:37]
A
Okay.
- [33:39]
B
Is, like the head of a concentration camp. Like a. You know.
- [33:45]
A
And that father was there.
- [33:47]
B
He was invited to the wedding.
- [33:49]
A
He was there.
- [33:50]
B
Yeah.
- [33:52]
A
This is what I'm saying. They don't. Once you hit that money level, they don't care about any of that. It's like, if you have the money, you're in the club. I don't care how you made the money. Taylor Swift can make it writing her songs and singing her songs. Travis Kelce can make it by marrying her.
- [34:09]
B
Yeah.
- [34:10]
A
This guy can make it by killing people in concentration camps. They don't give a.
- [34:15]
B
And the apologists were like, well, Taylor didn't know everybody they invited to the wedding.
- [34:23]
A
Huh? To her own wedding.
- [34:27]
B
Like, the madness. The madness. You cannot explain that away. You just can't. And they were like. They were gifting, like, classic cars and, like, Cartier watches and, like, Louis Vuitton bags and what?
- [34:46]
A
To who? Just anybody who walked through the door.
- [34:50]
B
They. How did it. They were doing, like, raffles or some at their wedding and, like, raffling off, like, all these extravagant gifts to celebrities who are already millionaires, you know? But, like, the. The seeping out is just, like. It's getting worse and worse. It's getting worse and worse. I think Brad Pitt was there, and we know that Brad Pitt. I was accused of beating Angelina Jolie and their children.
- [35:16]
A
Yeah.
- [35:16]
B
How are these people still with jobs? How are you getting paid to be an actor in Hollywood when you're beating the. Out of people? Like, what is that?
- [35:25]
A
Money? That's all that matters there. Like, I've been trying to put this movie together with a friend of mine that we wrote to direct it, produce it independently and all this. And we've had various actors attached to it at certain times. I've become very accustomed to this process. There is a. A list, basically, of actors that you're. You go to all the agencies and you say, we're trying to make this movie. We need an actor and actress for this role who is this age, who should be funny or whatever. And they send you back a list of, here's the people we represent that would, you know, fit your. Your role.
- [35:59]
B
Right.
- [35:59]
A
Then you have to basically look at that list and kind of cross reference it with financial lists. Each one of those people has a dollar amount assigned to their name. This is how much money we can get you for your movie if that person is in the movie. And that number is directly proportional to how much a movie with that person will make in any given territory globally. So Brad Pitt, that number next to his head is off the charts and that's all anyone gives a fuck about.
- [36:32]
B
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's. The morality is gone. It doesn't exist. Like, hearing that. I don't know. Like, I thought that Swifties, like, when you would hear that bit of information, it might make you in the very least think, nah, nah.
- [36:50]
A
And it's like, what's her audience primarily? I would guess millennial women.
- [36:56]
B
Let's see it. I don't know. It kind of runs the gamut. Like, I. I mean, yes, I. I think, like, certainly the age range is probably like 18 to 40 white women. Yeah, yeah.
- [37:14]
A
And just don't care. Yeah, it's. It's weird. I mean, it's weird to me that she doesn't see it herself because she is like a marketing genius. You don't gaffe at this point, I guess. Right. Because she has so much money and is so like, insulated from actual reality or the concerns of any real person. But still, she's like, really good at marketing.
- [37:39]
B
Right.
- [37:39]
A
And it's strange to see that she doesn't get like, this looks very bad.
- [37:43]
B
Right?
- [37:44]
A
You're harming your brand now.
- [37:46]
B
Well, they also. So the White House official used one of her, like her opener to the Eras tour that goes like, it's been a long time coming. Like, they used her intro on a White House official post. She has said nothing. You know, we've got celebrities like Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo. Like, they're out here and they're saying, some. Don't use my song. Take my name out your mouth.
- [38:15]
A
Right? She hasn't said because she's a billionaire. They're not. They've got a lot of money, don't get me wrong, you know, tens, if not hundreds of millions. But they ain't billionaires. And that's a different thing.
- [38:27]
B
Yeah, once.
- [38:27]
A
Once you have a billion dollars, money is meaningless to you.
- [38:32]
B
Right?
- [38:33]
A
You can do anything you want, including buying elections, including buying a fucking ride into space on Jeff Bezos rocket ship or whoever's, you know, Elon Musk, whatever. You can do anything, go anywhere, get out of any legal situation.
- [38:49]
B
You have a fair point. Because, you know, she has A documentary called Miss Americana, where she does speak politically about what's going on in the world and her stance and everything. And she's quite liberal, but that was way before we were a billionaire. Now crickets.
- [39:06]
A
Totally.
- [39:07]
B
It's looking out against nothing. Not a goddamn thing. So it is disappointing. It's a big disappointment. Yeah. You can't support that. Can't do it.
- [39:20]
A
But you will listen to her music?
- [39:22]
B
Maybe. I don't know. We'll see. Okay.
- [39:24]
A
Never go to a concert again.
- [39:26]
B
No. Never buy a ticket again.
- [39:28]
A
Interesting. Wow.
- [39:30]
B
Never. Not a piece of merch, not a record, not a ticket. No way.
- [39:33]
A
Now you're gonna have Swifty. What's her armies called?
- [39:37]
B
Swifties.
- [39:38]
A
You're gonna have the Swifties coming for you, too, as well as maga.
- [39:41]
B
Yeah, that's fine.
- [39:42]
A
You're gonna get even more death threats and dms.
- [39:45]
B
That's okay. I just. You know, I'm just gonna cling to my Billie Eilish. I'm gonna cling to my Olivia Rodrigo, my Haley Williams.
- [39:53]
A
Let me look at those ocean eyes.
- [39:56]
B
I love Billie Eilish. She's a vegan.
- [39:59]
A
Oh, I didn't know that.
- [40:00]
B
And at her concert. We went to her concert, and at her concert, she had, like, vegan cuisine for people to buy.
- [40:07]
A
That's like.
- [40:07]
B
She's very, like, environmentally, you know, friendly. Everything's sustainable and all this. I love a Billie Eilish and a Phineas.
- [40:14]
A
Did you watch Survivor season 50?
- [40:17]
B
What? No.
- [40:19]
A
In it, they had, like, a bunch of. They got Billie Eilish kind of inclusions. Yeah, they had one of the immunity idols or one of the idols you could find out in the jungle was called the Billie Eilish Boomerang Idol.
- [40:32]
B
Okay.
- [40:32]
A
And then I saw some interview with her or something where she was basically like. Yeah, what is it called again? I don't know. It just seemed like she didn't give a fudge. Didn't watch Survivor, doesn't care. Her team just came to her and was like, they want to put your name in the show this season.
- [40:45]
B
She's like, no, I fucking love Billie Eilish. I'm a Stan, and I probably will be for life. Her and her brother do, like, good work. I think their mom has, like a. It's like a. They feed people. Vegan. Vegan, you know.
- [41:03]
A
Okay.
- [41:03]
B
People who suffer from food insecurity. Like, her mom has a whole organization. I don't know. They just seem like really good people. They donate to charities, and they're not billionaires. I love Billie Eilish. And I love Olivia Rodrigo. Okay. I can't Taylor Swift anymore. I just can't do it. It's like such a fudgeing disappointment, like, to see all this shit. It's, like, so grotesque, and, like, the spectacle of it all, I just. It feels gross. It feels bad.
- [41:31]
A
The craziest thing to me about it is, like, the. The clear money grab that's coming in a movie or whatever's coming out about that wedding. We haven't seen any pictures or anything from it, and that is very purposeful.
- [41:45]
B
Yeah.
- [41:45]
A
She's gonna, two months from now, be like, the wedding album or something. She's dropping some merch based on this. Goddamn.
- [41:53]
B
I'm gonna tell you what it's gonna be. It's gonna be an album followed by the documentary. I'll tell you that right now. There is an album that she has created that revolves around, like, this era in her life. And it's all the wedding love. That album is gonna drop, and then we're gonna get the countdown to the documentary.
- [42:11]
A
Yeah.
- [42:12]
B
It's the formula. We did it with the eras tour. You're going to give me 10 records to buy because they got different pictures on them, nine cardigans that have Travis's face on it. And then you're going to documentary the. Out of everybody. It's all about money. That's all she does now. And it's not even because she needs the money. It's just like that megalomaniac.
- [42:31]
A
Yes.
- [42:32]
B
It's the Elon Musk.
- [42:34]
A
You got to stay on top of the mountain.
- [42:36]
B
Yeah. So, you know, I'm again, disappointed. It is unfortunate to see, like, a woman who has power and a platform not use it. And not only not use it, but, you know, she used to speak on feminism and. But I feel like it was all performative because it was only to get what she wanted. And it wasn't to help. It wasn't intersectional. She wasn't helping trans women and women of color and, like, the working class. Like, it was none of that. It was only for personal gain. And so I think if you. If you're a swifty and you can kind of, like, look at it from different angles, you're also disappointed. But, you know, Die hard fans are die hard fans. There's nothing that you can do to sway them. And I find that it's like maga. It is. It's a cult, but I'm not that person.
- [43:30]
A
Yeah, I. I always found it interesting that she chose to go for the NFL guy because the NFL itself is like right wing, super corrupt, super grotesque organization.
- [43:42]
B
It feels trad wifey and a lot of people are saying as much. And so it's like, at what point do you cut and run as like a liberal feminist? You know, your ideals, your morals, your ethics, like we're not aligning anymore. So when do you cut and run? And for me it's now. It's the wedding, it's the billionaire status, it's the concentration camp guests since the, you know, the, the gifts that you're giving away that are like hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meanwhile, the world is like falling apart. It's. It's you no longer. How much is a banana? $10. You don't live the life we live. You're not even close to it. And you rub it in our faces. So I feel like for me, the time has come.
- [44:27]
A
No more beyond rubbing it in your faces. You're. You're providing that for her.
- [44:33]
B
Correct.
- [44:34]
A
The reason she is like that is because of all the people we did her records and her concert tickets and whatever else.
- [44:40]
B
Yeah, we did that. Unfortunate.
- [44:45]
A
Well, welcome to no longer being a swifty. And thank you for joining me today and congrats on all your libs of tick tock success.
- [44:54]
B
Yeah, man, today's gonna be a doozy. I've already like, I've been texting my bakery manager like, hey, can you bake like six, seven trays of cookies? We're like, I've been looking online. I think we're already almost sold out. So it's gonna be hectic all week probably for two weeks like this. We'll have to deal with this for probably like almost a month.
- [45:17]
A
Yeah. That's good though.
- [45:19]
B
No, it's, I'm, I am always appreciative of all of our fans, our, our friends, the patrons. We really have like found this group of like minded. They've got our back, you know, and I, and I know that, you know, we donate to all of these causes in our area that like, mean to us and we all kind of like circle around each other, make sure that we're all good. And that's a nice feeling, you know, because I live in a red state and in a very red suburb of that state.
- [45:54]
A
Yeah.
- [45:54]
B
And so I just never gave a, like, I always kind of. I set out to use my voice from day one, come what may, and inadvertently found my community because you attract, you know, what you put out. So I'm always grateful to all of these people, like hundreds of thousands of followers all around the world, which is crazy. Like hive bakery ships our merch, literally, to other countries. I think we're up to, like, 11 different countries now.
- [46:25]
A
The wild.
- [46:26]
B
Like, there's people just crazy out there in Ireland, like, wearing our.
- [46:30]
A
Yeah.
- [46:30]
B
You know, and when we went to Ireland, I was getting dms. Oh, my God. You're in my town. Should we have lunch? You know, so, like, anytime. Yeah, anytime. That. That just knowing that there's people, like, rooting for us, literally worldwide, it's touching and it's amazing. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just along for the ride. It's been great.
- [46:58]
A
All right, well, I love you. Thank you for doing this. We'll be back on Sunday, and good luck with all of your. Your various things.
- [47:08]
B
All right, well, love you too.
- [47:10]
A
All right, bye.
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B
Bye.