Trump Caught Lying About The Reflecting Pool

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Necessary Conversation

Episode: Trump Caught Lying About The Reflecting Pool
Date: August 2, 2026
Host & Participants: Chad Colchian (A), Haley (B), Mary Lou (C)
Theme: Family therapy through political discussion, focusing on recent Trump controversies, the ongoing Iran war, surveillance state expansion, and personal reflections.
Tone: Candid, argumentative, emotionally charged, yet personal and familial.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the fallout from Trump's latest reflecting pool controversy, using it as a lens to examine Trump's patterns of deflection, lying, and lack of accountability. The family grapples with how these behaviors relate to deeper political and cultural divides, escalating authoritarianism, and current events—especially the war in Iran, the surveillance state, and loss of public trust. The show's format seamlessly blends political analysis with intimate family dynamics and genuine emotional moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflecting Pool Scandal: Trump’s Lies Exposed

• Summary: Trump falsely blamed vandalism for extensive damage to his reflecting pool project. The DOJ cleared the accused, Olympic canoeist David Hearn, citing a contractor error instead. Trump rejected his own DOJ findings, insisting on the vandalism narrative ([03:00–04:29]).
• Key Questions Raised:
  • Why continue supporting a leader who blatantly lies, even when proven wrong?
  • What does it mean for democracy when leaders defy their own institutions’ findings?

Notable Quotes & Moments

• A (Chad):
  "Trump, without providing evidence, had alleged that the damage was caused by vandals, including a claim that somebody cut a 300 foot gash in the bottom of the pool with a box cutter. He has now publicly rejected his own DOJ's finding." [03:00]
• B (Haley):
  "He was ready to throw somebody in jail for this… They just lied." [05:00]
• C (Mary Lou):
  "I am tired of talking about the damn pool. Fix it, be done with it. Let's move on." [04:52]
• A (Chad): "If he's willing to do that for that, what do you think he's willing to do for… any of the big things that he's lying to us about?" [12:08]

Analysis:

The family’s debate spotlights Mary's evolving perspective—admitting Trump's deception is "a pretty big X"—while Haley pushes for a total break: “When are you just going to…dump Trump?” [06:35]. Chad warns against normalizing these behaviors, suggesting broader, dangerous implications for governance and justice.

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2. The Illegal War in Iran and Fears of World War III

• Summary: The hosts confront the reality of a deeply unpopular, escalating US-led war in Iran. Trump is demonized for reckless military tactics, civilian targeting, and failure to develop an exit strategy. Russia and China’s involvement marks a dangerous global escalation ([13:04–17:17]).
• Key Tensions:
  • Mary Lou’s fears, stoked by exposure to viral (possibly AI) propaganda videos, square off with Haley and Chad’s critique that Trump alone created the crisis.
  • The morality and actual utility of infrastructure bombing is questioned—Mary Lou struggles to reconcile humanitarian concerns with martial loyalty.

Notable Quotes

• B (Haley):
  "We are at the brink of World War III... Donald Trump's fault, 100%. And now you're focused on this propaganda that probably isn't fucking real when you should be focused on the fact that all of these other countries are getting involved." [14:55]
• C (Mary Lou):
  "I think he's trying to make them surrender to us by doing that." [16:55]
• A (Chad):
  "Trump is literally doing it. Now, that was one of the things you hated most about Biden. Now Trump's doing it. Do you hate it just as bad from Trump?" [17:19]

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3. The Surveillance State: Flock Cameras and Lost Privacy

• Summary: The family discusses the nationwide boom in AI-powered Flock cameras, weaponized for surveillance and sometimes criminal investigations, including cases like tracking women seeking abortions ([39:40–42:05]).
• Mary Lou’s Reaction: At first, she misinterprets their function as useful for solving local crimes but is deeply unsettled upon realizing their broader use against marginalized individuals.
• Insights: Chad draws an explicit parallel to authoritarian regimes, warning of growing, unchecked state surveillance and Trump’s direct benefits from these systems.

Notable Quotes

• A (Chad):
  "He wants to have a surveillance state so that he can find anybody at any time and say, that's a criminal... It's like ICE, too. They're just rounding up whoever they want..." [42:26]
• B (Haley):
  "Do you see the parallels between this and Nazi Germany? Now, do you, like, understand what's going on?" [43:21]

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4. Eroding Accountability: Pentagon Casualty Manipulation & Mitch McConnell’s Health Cover-up

• Pentagon Death Toll Fudging:
  • Under Trump, the Pentagon reduced the official Iran war death toll by four after he falsely claimed fewer casualties. Mary Lou admits it’s "strange," and the act is agreed to be a slap in the face to lost servicemembers’ families ([35:19–36:42]).
• Mitch McConnell Controversy:
  • The senator’s absence, suspicious photos, and lack of public appearances spark skepticism about his true status ([26:30–29:49]).
  • Mary Lou doubts he’s dead, but Haley and Chad believe the Republican Party is keeping him "alive" for political leverage: “They don’t care as long as they are still in power. That’s all that matters.” [28:32]

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5. Epstein Files, Immigration, and The Double Standard

• Summary: Trump’s alleged involvement in the Epstein files and immigration crackdowns surface as family flashpoints.
• Chad:
  "That is more important than closed borders, in my opinion. Finding all of these people that raped children, trafficked children—that is more important than closing the border." [21:18]
• Mary Lou: Prioritizes border closure ("I like our borders are closed. Yes. Yes, I do." [21:10]), but also expresses discomfort with protecting wrongdoers.

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6. Fauci Hearing: Partisanship, COVID-19, and Shifting Blame

• Summary: Dr. Fauci takes the Fifth Amendment repeatedly in Senate testimony; Republicans, especially Rand Paul, accuse him of lying about COVID’s origins. Mary Lou brands Fauci a criminal, blaming him for lockdowns and vaccine risks, though Chad and Haley dispute the evidence ([47:40–54:06]).
• Critical Discussion:
  • Chad presses Mary Lou on whether she’d use the same standard on Trump regarding the Epstein files. She waivers but ultimately applies a double standard, accepting Trump’s denials at face value.

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7. Personal Segment: In Memoriam

• Tribute to Juliana Joy Curry:
  • Mary Lou movingly commemorates her late young friend ("Life is never given. Each second that we live is a blessing." [55:50–61:19]). The family supports her in her grief, reinforcing the show’s blend of political and personal themes.

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Selected Timestamps for Key Segments

• Reflecting Pool Scandal: 03:00–12:27
• Trump's Accountability & Loyalty Debate: 05:38–12:27
• World War III/Iran War: 13:04–18:43
• Mitch McConnell Health Cover-up: 26:30–31:14
• Pentagon’s Casualty Manipulation: 35:19–37:29
• Flock Cameras & Surveillance: 39:40–46:36
• Fauci Hearing & Double Standard: 47:40–54:06
• In Memoriam (Juliana Joy Curry): 55:50–61:19

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Memorable Quotes

• Mary Lou:
  "I am tired of talking about the damn pool. Fix it, be done with it. Let's move on." [04:52]
• Haley:
  "We are at the brink of World War III... Donald Trump's fault, 100%." [14:55]_
• Chad:
  "They don’t care as long as they are still in power. That’s all that matters." [28:32]
• Haley:
  "Do you see the parallels between this and Nazi Germany? Now, do you, like, understand what's going on?" [43:21]

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Conclusion

This episode of The Necessary Conversation is a riveting mix of incisive political discussion, pointed family disagreement, and heartfelt remembrance. The hosts interrogate Trump’s chronic dishonesty, the normalization of surveillance, and partisan hypocrisy, often clashing over where lines of accountability and trust should be drawn. Yet amid heated exchanges, moments of humor, confusion, and grief reveal the bonds and challenges of navigating truth—and each other—across multiple generational divides.

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Transcript

[A]

In the Aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it. As America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule. Now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the necessary conversation. I'm Chad Colchian. Not in my regular office, as you might see. I'm what they call gallivanting. With me is my sister Haley, Pop Pope.

[B]

It's.

[C]

How do we.

[B]

It's.

[C]

How do you pronounce it?

[B]

It's pop.

[A]

And my mom, Mary Lou.

[B]

Culture.

[A]

Any ditties? Mom?

[C]

Yeah, I'd like to talk about my butterfly clip that I did. The backyard. Thank you, everyone, for looking in. I saw there were a lot of views. I made a couple mistakes on that. Let me. Let me backtrack.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I said that the mimicking butterfly that looked like the monarch was called a queen. A queen kind of does, but it's really the viceroy. So the viceroy mimics the monarch more than the queen. The queen has is more orange with spots. There are 70 different species of milkweed in North America, but in Oklahoma and in my backyard, I have, like, three, five different species I forgot to bring up. If you plant tropical milkweed, which is not a native, once the migration starts from Canada, going back down to Mexico, cut that down. You need to get rid of that tropical, because if not, they will stop and they will lay eggs, and then those butterflies will never make it all the way. So the minute I see them migrate over my house, they. That milkweed, that tropical, is cut down. And there's a lot of people that argue back and forth whether you should even have tropical. But I do have it to attract them coming the other way. Our backyard is a waste station, which I did have for that clip, but it didn't make it when someone edited it. Our backyard is waystation number 31757. There are 260 way stations in Oklahoma, but there are 57,000 in the whole world, the global world. So I'm very proud that our backyard is a way station. To have that, you have to have six hours of direct light, the food, the shelter, forum, at least three or four species of native milkweed. And there are two different organizations if you want to learn more. Monarchwatch.org and Journey North.org. there you go.

[A]

Okay. And what are these organizations saying about. What are these organizations saying about how Trump is now allowing monarchs to be killed?

[C]

They don't have anything on those websites, but they do track the monarchs and the Numbers and we know that they're doing the dwindling and down and it's sad. Yes.

[A]

Okay. As I've been gallivanting, I'm not sure that I have all of the proper news stories for this week. I do have six of them, but if I've left one out at the end of this, please feel free to jump in. Today. We're going to start with Trump lied about the reflecting pool. This week, Trump's lie about people vandalizing his reflecting pool project was exposed when the DOJ dismissed its felony vandalism case against David Hearn, a 67 year old three time Olympic canoeist. Prosecutors said newly received documents showed the damage was the result of a botched installation by a contractor, not vandalism. Prosecutors also pointed to the rush to complete the project prior to the America 250 celebration around independence Day, which was one of Trump's demands. Trump, without providing evidence, had alleged that the damage was caused by vandals, including a claim that somebody cut a 300 foot gash in the bottom of the pool with a box cutter. He has now publicly rejected his own DOJ's finding and and chastised U.S. attorney Janine Pirro for dropping the charges. So far, the project has cost around $16 million. Crews have drained the pool for the second time in three months and there is no projected date or time for when the repairs to the botch renovations will be complete.

[B]

So why aren't we firing everybody? Everybody that was part of this lie?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why aren't we just firing them?

[A]

Well, let me ask this first moment the DOJ dropped the vandalism charges, do you still think people vandalize the reflecting pool?

[C]

No. And I'm tired. No, I don't now.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I am tired of talking about the damn pool. Fix it, Be done with it. Let's move on.

[B]

But he was ready to throw somebody in jail for this. And Caroline Levitt, like Everybody involved was 100 trying to convince you that like this man needed to go to jail. We have to find the people who did this. They knew that it, that that wasn't the case. They just lied.

[C]

I, I do believe now because, I mean, but I saw little clips where like people were pouring things in the water. So I was kind of believing some of that. That's kind of hard.

[B]

Those are lies.

[C]

Okay, well, I'm tired of the pool. Let's. They need to stop it. The people lie. They lied to us.

[A]

No, not the people. Donald Trump. And he's still lying to you. Donald Trump is saying now that he does not agree with what his DOJ is saying. He's still saying that it was vandals.

[C]

He is? Yes. He said not. And he let the guy go.

[A]

His DOJ dropped the charges against this guy. He is saying, I don't believe my doj. He's shitting on his own doj. Now he's still trying to say that it's vandals.

[C]

Yeah. It was not. It was.

[A]

Okay, so you are agreeing that Donald Trump is continuing to lie to you about this.

[C]

Yeah. X on that one. Yeah.

[B]

So let's.

[A]

On that one.

[B]

So let's fire him. Let's add up the X's. Right. And let's dump him. Dump Trump.

[C]

Well, you and I can't do that. But other people can.

[B]

But you want to. But you want.

[C]

There's a lot of X's. There's a lot of X's right now.

[B]

There doesn't need to be any more. Like you have enough. When are you just going to. Let's dump Trump.

[A]

But mom, you're also kind of glossing over the important of this. Let me ask you this question. Why do you think Trump lied about the. Who was responsible for the reflecting pull damage?

[C]

I don't know. He wanted to get somebody other than himself to say it was their fault, not his.

[B]

Yes. To keep you adversarial. It's not my fault.

[C]

Right. To say that.

[A]

Exactly what you're saying. Right. So. And why would he want to do that?

[C]

Because he wants to be the good guy, not the bad guy.

[A]

Right. He won't take accountability for any mistakes that he makes. The Reflecting pool is just a small piece of a broader strategy that he uses with everything he does to deflect blame to literally anyone and everyone else in any capacity. Even in this case, when it means he is just outright lying and was willing to put a completely innocent person in prison for years because of something he did.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Does that not scare you that he was willing to put this man in jail? This is just a US Citizen minding his own business, doing nothing. And Trump was 100 willing to throw him in jail forever.

[B]

Yeah, he should be fired. He should be fired. The. He's doing is like insane.

[C]

The. The whole thing needs to be done and over and forget it. It's ridiculous.

[B]

No, let's not forget it. Let's get rid of the president.

[C]

Okay, can I say one thing? This was not on our topics and I thought it was weird that you didn't, maybe you didn't see this in multiple media outlets over in Iran. They were in this video clip. I guess it was propaganda to get Trump all upset how to assassinate the first lady and Baron. Did you see that, Chad?

[A]

I didn't see it.

[B]

It's probably not real.

[C]

No, it was real because it. I got on and Snoop snooped it and whatever and it was for real. It was snooped it Snow. I Snoop snoped it. And it was an AI. And it was propaganda video that described how to assassinate her because of the stores where she went. And then Baron was also at the end. They said it was released for psychological intimidation and to send a message to Trump.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

When dad and I viewed it, dad was like, holy crap, he's gonna go now. The big one's gonna drop now.

[B]

I never saw it, so I think it's not real.

[C]

We're gonna YouTube. It's all over YouTube.

[A]

All right. I don't know what you're talking about, so I'm going to have to pull a U on this. I'll look into that. Let me study it. Let me look into it. I want to go back to this reflecting pool thing, though, because you're just glossing over this. This is a big fucking deal. He was caught in a giant lie that was at the expense potentially of a completely innocent US citizen. His own DOJ has said it was a lie. We're dropping the charges. He's still claiming that it was because of vandalism. He's still maintaining the lie. That doesn't. In your mind, you're like, yeah, it's an ax. And then you're ready to move on.

[C]

But like, he's crazy. If his DOJ said no.

[B]

And you're, you're. You always just kind of gloss over all of these things that he does. You. You finally once and for all say Donald Trump. You don't have to go along with this every X. Like there. How many we got now? 293.

[C]

What.

[B]

What is it gonna take?

[C]

I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

Like through and through everything he does.

[A]

But now, I mean, I'm not gonna go. As hard as Haley is going on you here, but you are. This is one more thing that not only you're saying is an ax. This one, in my opinion is like, we caught him red handed. Even his own DOJ has turned against him. You see now that he was willing to imprison someone who had nothing to do with any of this. And in fact, it's his fault. And that is just an X to you. Is he still your president?

[C]

He's the president. That's a pretty big X.

[B]

It should be a Hell no.

[C]

I swear in the beginning I believed it. I believe somebody did do that.

[B]

That's their intent. They try to grift you, they lie to you to keep you in this state of like it's them. It's not me. It's always him.

[A]

Okay, but even think about the lie he told. That someone took a box cutter and slashed a 300 foot cut in the bottom of the pool.

[B]

It's just so.

[C]

I never believed that one. I believe someone dumped something in there to change the nitrates into the water to make it a different color.

[B]

But now you know they didn't. And now you know they didn't.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So just denounce him over the pool. Over him continuously lying to you over

[C]

the reflecting pool, which is of no importance to me right now.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. So take that face value. The reflecting pool is very small potatoes,

[C]

right, Compared to what's happening.

[A]

It's a cosmetic thing, right, that he was willing to, to send a man to prison for decades for something he did not do simply to make himself look a little better on the reflecting pool. If he's willing to do that for that, what do you think he's willing to do for the Epstein files, for the war in Iran, for any of the big things that he's lying to us about?

[C]

I don't think any judge would have allowed that to happen. For someone to go to prison over that.

[A]

But now you're, that's your second thing that you deflect back to. Well, fine, he did lie and settle this bad shit, but no judge would have allowed it to happen. The point is Trump is trying to do these things. He's now been caught in this lie. Blatantly his own DOJ turned against him and now he's saying, fuck you doj, you're wrong, I'm right. And then your, your secondary kind of line of defense logically is to say, well, it wouldn't happen anyway. That doesn't matter. He's trying to make it happen. Hello?

[C]

Yes, I'm here.

[A]

Let's move on to our next topic, World War Three. As we enter week 23 of Trump's illegal war with Iran. Saudi Arabia joined U. S Strikes on Iran backed militants in Iraq, killing at least 20, including five IRGC members. Jordan and Kuwait reported incoming Iranian strikes. And Egypt was hit by a drone attack of unclear origin. All while Trump is threatening fresh strikes this weekend on civilian infrastructure, a war crime. China and Russia now are openly aiding Iran with technological and intelligence aid, including the location of U. S. Military operations and installations, making it easier for Iran to strike American targets. The war is deeply unpopular in the United states, with only 28% of Americans approving of Trump's lack of strategy. Mom, you were, when Biden was in office all the time, constantly worried that he was going to start another world war, that he was going to start a war with Iran. China and Russia are now openly helping Iran and opposing US Military actions, giving them intelligence about where to bomb our bases. How worried are you about another world war now?

[C]

Huge.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

Huge. And with that clip that you guys did not see that said, this is how we can kill his wife and son. Dad and I even watched it and we said, holy shit, now he's got something to get dropped the big one on him. I'm really afraid. I really am afraid.

[A]

You're advocating for a nuclear weapon to be used against Iran.

[C]

I'm not advocating for that. No, I don't want that. But now he does have a big reason. They're coming after his wife, his kid.

[B]

He created this mess. He created this for them to come

[C]

and kill his wife and kid.

[B]

The fact that we are at the brink of World War Three is Donald Trump's fault, 100%. And now you're focused on this propaganda that probably isn't fucking real when you should be focused on the fact that all of these other countries are getting involved. China and Russia are now aiding the people that Donald Trump is trying to fucking blow up. What do you think's going to happen? He created all of this. We are in this because of him.

[C]

Do you think it's right, though, if we do just. Okay, we're over. We're done. We pull out and we leave. And our Americans that lost their lives there, to me, that was in vain. How can we do that to our American lives?

[B]

You know what you do? You hold Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth and everybody responsible for their deaths. You hold them responsible for that. You put them in prison.

[A]

But, mom, also. What are you talking about? If you're saying that the. Right now you view any American loss of life in the war in Iran as in vain, right?

[C]

Not in vain. If we don't. If we don't do what we set out to do, it is.

[B]

And what did we set out to do? What were we supposed to be doing

[C]

there to help the good people, to get rid of the bad people.

[B]

And so how. How is bombing their.

[C]

Their.

[B]

He wants to take out their bridges and their electricity. How is that helping the People of

[C]

Iran, getting rid of the bad people, I guess.

[B]

How does that get rid of the bad people? How does getting rid of their. Their. Their way out of there, their way across borders? How is taking out bridges and electricity helping people and getting the bad guys? How is that helping?

[C]

That part I do not know. The answer to.

[B]

That is just cruelty. That is Donald Trump. At his core, he is a cruel fucking dictator.

[C]

I think he's trying to make them surrender to us by doing that.

[A]

But you're talking about saying he now has a reason to drop the big one in quotes, or you believe he should go in and blow more shit up. How do you think that de. Escalates a possible world war that now has China and Russia openly aiding Iran?

[C]

Yeah. It does not.

[A]

Correct. So now the very thing that you feared most about Joe Biden starting war with Iran that would lead to a third world war, Trump is literally doing it. Now, that was one of the things you hated most about Biden. Now Trump's doing it. Do you hate it just as bad from Trump?

[C]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Okay. So you can see that Trump then, of course, is doing something that you feared Biden would do. One of the reasons you hated Biden is now something Trump is doing.

[B]

So do you hate Trump?

[C]

I hate what he is doing right now in this war. I have told you that. Okay.

[B]

You hate everything he's doing.

[A]

Yeah. So far, we haven't really found. Sorry. Go ahead, Mom.

[C]

I hate that we're losing lives. I hate the war. I want it to be done and over somehow. And I don't. I don't see the end yet.

[B]

If this was Joe Biden, if Joe Biden had done all this shit, you would denounce him as your president. I can say that certainty.

[A]

I announced him as your president.

[C]

I don't like the way the war is going, for sure.

[A]

But you denounced Biden as your president and he didn't do any of this stuff. You denounced him on the basis that he might do these things, or you thought that he might do these things, or that he was falling asleep all the time. Well, somebody else is doing that, too.

[C]

Toward the end of his presidency. I really do not think he was running our country. I really felt Obama was telling him what to do from a distance. I really do. Or telling the Cabinet what to do.

[A]

That's fine.

[C]

But.

[A]

But how was the country running then?

[C]

What? When Biden was president?

[B]

Do you think we're in worse shape now than we were when Biden was president?

[C]

I think right now the world is out of Control.

[B]

I'm not asking about the world. Do you think America is in worse shape now than it was when Biden was in office?

[C]

I think there's more crazy people, and I do think it's a little bit worse. Yes.

[B]

Right. That's Donald Trump's fault.

[A]

You can draw a straight line from basically every problem we have in this country right now, or everything, comparatively, as a problem. Rising prices of everything, Gas, groceries, blah, blah, blah. That's because of Trump's tariffs and his horrible relationships now with all of our trade partners globally. The war in Iran, obviously he started that without congressional approval. Nobody thinks it's a good idea. Nobody's ever thought it was a good idea. He has no exit plan, and now he's just doing his daily threats on Twitter. I'm gonna bomb your bridges, I'm gonna blow you up. All this. This reflecting pool thing. He's. He's now willing to jail people, innocent people, to make himself look better. Ice. You don't like what ICE is doing? They're again, rounding up people. I saw a bunch of videos this week about it where they're just fucking forcing people down in the streets who are here legally, not US Citizens, but on their way to get that status, and they're just rounding up whoever they can. So all these things are because of him. Policies he has implemented, things he is doing.

[C]

And we do have closed borders, thank God. Did you see what happened in Spain?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. So thank God we have closed borders or that could be happening to our country.

[A]

Okay, fine.

[C]

And it did. All right.

[A]

We've got closed borders, right?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

We have a war in Iran. We have escalating prices on everything. We have pedophiles being protected by the United States government in the Epstein files. We have ICE in the streets killing people without repercussion. All of this, you think is worth in quotes. Closed borders.

[C]

I like. Our borders are closed. Yes. Yes, I do. And you just polish over that.

[A]

No, I'm not polishing over it.

[C]

Yes, you do.

[B]

Think about that. No, think about that. They are protecting grown men who raped children. That alone should have you concerned. That is more important than closed borders, in my opinion. Finding all of these people that raped children, trafficked children, that is more important than closing the border?

[C]

Of course. I don't agree with what you're saying.

[A]

You don't agree that they're protecting pedophiles?

[C]

No, I agree that that is not right.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

That is more important. That is the most important thing happening in the United States is that there is a cover up of the fucking Epstein files because Trump is in them. The President of the United States is part of that ring. That is why we don't have all the information. That is why we don't have all the names, because he's part of that ring.

[C]

That's your opinion right now.

[A]

No, it's not. We know that his name, even in the unredacted stuff they release, has appeared more than anyone else. They did just this week. I didn't put this on the list, but a judge ordered the DOJ to turn over unredacted files to that judge. That judge now has them and is reviewing them. But what is in those files? Who knows? Like, did they give the judge all of the redacted files? We don't know. It's. It's very clear that Trump, his doj, Todd, Blanche, they are all trying to protect whoever is in those files. How could you think it was anyone else other than Trump knowing that he's already in the unredacted that many times? And every time he, even this week he came out and was like, I can speak about the Epstein files because I'm exonerated, so it's fine. Every time he speaks about him, he mentions that he's not guilty. He's exonerated. That's been proven. Why would he have to say that all the time?

[C]

I don't know. There's something else you hadn't brought up. Did you see where Trump. It is so bad that the truck drivers that do not have the correct licenses, that should not be in those trucks, he is doing stop checks, going to pull them out, and guess what he's putting in there to drive Elon Musk. Our veterans, okay? Our veterans.

[A]

How do you think none of that's real? Yeah, how do you think that is real?

[C]

He was on TV about it.

[B]

So you're telling me that if your first language is Spanish that you don't know how to drive a fucking car?

[C]

I didn't say that at all.

[A]

Hang on a minute.

[C]

People that do not have the correct licenses to be driving those trucks, right?

[A]

How do you think a person who does not have the correct license gets behind the wheel of one of those trucks? How does that happen?

[B]

Right?

[C]

Your governor gives them the licenses in California, okay?

[A]

To get that license, you have to go through training, extensive training to be able to drive a semi truck.

[C]

Apparently not in California.

[B]

Okay, that is a lie. That's a lie. Just like you have to take all these tests to become a driver. Same goes for any kind of truck machinery like you must pass tests.

[C]

That is not what I've read.

[A]

But what you've read is incorrect. You cannot drive a semi truck without having that license. To get that license, you have to go through extensive training because obviously semi truck is not like driving your car. It's a much bigger machine that has a lot more bells and whistles. And you got to know what the you're doing with that machine. You cannot get that license unless you have not only gone through the training, you have to pass the course, you have to pass the training.

[C]

Well, that's the logical story. It should be that way.

[A]

It is that way.

[C]

It is that way. Somehow you're.

[B]

According to who? Smokey Joe?

[C]

Somehow your governor gave people licenses they should not have. We talked about this before. Another question, but you're wrong.

[A]

Like you are. Mom.

[B]

Snoop it.

[C]

I'll snoop. I'll snoop you.

[A]

Yeah, please, snoop that. All right, let's move on. Speaking of snooping something, we all need to start snooping Mitch McConnell. This week, Mitch McConnell's office released a second proof of life photo showing the senator alongside his wife, Elaine Chow, which the office said was taken this week. The photo came with an official statement in which McConnell said he is, quote, working hard to return to the Senate and is still undergoing intense physical therapy. He has been hospitalized since June 14 after a fall at his D.C. home. He's missed 38 roll call votes and has done no media interviews since or made any public appearances. Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear has called on McConnell multiple times to release more information about his health or make some kind of public statement or appearance. Most people believe the photos released by McConnell to be AI generated or digitally altered in some way. The deadline for McConnell to be clear, to be declared unfit for office, triggering a special election in which Trump enemy Thomas Massie could run, is tomorrow. Mom, why do you think Mitch McConnell can't make a video? Just saying, hey, I'm alive, I'm in the hospital, I'm doing some stuff.

[C]

I don't think he's dead. Like what you guys think he is.

[B]

Then why make a video?

[C]

He's in rehab.

[B]

You've. We've had a family member in rehab. Okay? Dad's been in rehab. He could definitely make a fucking video.

[C]

Yes, he can, right?

[B]

So why can't Mitch McConnell.

[C]

I don't know. But when I Googled When I Snapchat, not Snapchat. When I chat, gbt, not Snapchat. Well, nice and snooped is important to note that August 3rd is the only relevant. Is only relative.

[B]

Relative Snooping on a hespith resonant.

[C]

Stop it. I've had bad days. If the seat becomes vacant, for example, if he resigns or dies. Right, but if he is simply still in rehabilitation. No, he can remain a senator. There is no legal consequences tied to April 3rd. He can continue to recover while retaining his seat even if he is unable to return to the Senate immediately. That's what they're going to do.

[A]

The August 3rd date triggers a special election in which Thomas Massie, although I think he said that he wouldn't run anyway, but Thomas Massie could run. And, and he's a huge anti Trump guy. So they're trying to kind of beat

[B]

out the clock it out.

[A]

They have to keep him, quote, alive until August 3rd. And then once that date passes, there can be no special election. And it will just go into the normal midterm election where the, the Republicans that primaried Thomas Massie can run and Thomas Massie has no shot.

[B]

I can't wait to see how they spin this because you know it's going to be a death announcement halfway through August or the end of August. Yeah, how are they going to spin that? He went from like, look at me taking photos with my wife, I'm just recovering to fucking death.

[A]

They don't have to spin it. No one. It's like what can be done? No one's doing anything about this. That's the whole point that I don't think, like still, Democrats don't understand. The Republicans don't get give a fuck. They are lying straight to our faces 24 7. This thing with Trump in the reflecting pool is proof of that. He's still lying even after his own DOJ is like, no, no evidence. We're dropping out the charges. He's like, fuck you. It was still box cutting vandals. They don't care as long as they are still in power. That's all that matters. And so with this Mitch McConnell thing, it's like lie, lie, lie. AI generated image. AI generated image. Mom, do you think that those two images, you've seen those images of him, do you think they're real?

[C]

They look a little fishy.

[A]

Okay, so why do you think they'd be putting out fake images of him?

[C]

Maybe he can't set up, but he's still in rehab.

[B]

Mitch McConnell can't come to the phone. Why? Because he's dead.

[C]

I don't think they would lie to us that way.

[B]

You're out of your mind. You know that they're lying. You know it's you Know it.

[C]

I don't think he is. I really don't.

[B]

That fucking dude has rigor mortis by now. He is gone. He's done.

[A]

Do you think, mom, any senator should be able to miss 38 Roll Call votes in a row and still have their job?

[B]

Absolutely not.

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay, so you think Mitch McConnell should be fired at the very least, probably replace. Okay, interesting. I personally think he is pro, maybe not like dead, but is definitely in a kind of medical state that has rendered him incapable of ever doing this job again. And they are just trying to run out the clock. That's the only thing that makes sense here. Otherwise we would have a video of him. At the very least a 10 to 15 second video. Just saying, like, hey, guys, I'm. I know I haven't been in, in the Senate for a minute. I'm battling some health issues. But I'm getting better and I'll see you soon. Something like that is all he's got to do. Nothing. The only thing we've had are two people have said they had a phone call with him. I forget who the other one was, but one was Scott Jennings, who's a Republican talking head on cnn. And it was like, I had a phone call with him for 17 minutes and he gets this. This fake bravado, like, I'm outraged kind of thing. All the same playbook that all Republicans do. Meanwhile, he couldn't tell us what Mitch McConnell said on that call. I don't. Whatever the call was, maybe he connected to Mitch McConnell's phone for 17 minutes. But I don't think Mitch McConnell did any talking.

[B]

I think it's all just a lie. They're just lying.

[A]

I do, too.

[B]

He got a payday and he lied about it.

[A]

I think so, too. Let's simmer down. This week, the simmer down is my gallivanting. Yes, Any questions?

[C]

Where are you right now?

[A]

I'm in Paris. Next question.

[C]

Are you close any of the fires?

[A]

No.

[B]

You wearing sunscreen?

[A]

I'm wearing a cowl. I'm wearing a black hooded jacket that I cover my entire head and body with when we go outside. And people, people, one person specifically is embarrassed by it.

[C]

What is the most fun thing you have done today?

[A]

We went to Serge Gainberg's house and it was really cool. They turned into a museum. You walk through. It's a guided tour. His daughter is doing the. A little voiceover about what it was like to grow up with him and all this kind of stuff. It was really, really cool. Kind of creepy, but very neat. As well, but we've also done just some, like, basic touristy stuff. Eiffel Tower. We tried to go to the catacombs. We did the Louvre last time. We tried to go to the Catacombs, but it was sold out or whatever.

[B]

That one's cool.

[A]

Yeah. Been going on a lot of metros, walking through a lot of clouds of bo. That's been fun.

[B]

And smoke. Right. A lot of people smoke in Paris.

[A]

More vaping than smoking, but yeah. Huh.

[C]

Would you like to live there someday?

[A]

No.

[C]

So America is better.

[A]

Yeah. I like Los Angeles.

[B]

Have you been able to find vegan cuisine very easily?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That hasn't been too tough.

[B]

That's good. Any pastries?

[A]

Yeah, we've eaten some pastries. A lot of bakery. We went into this one bakery. There were. I thought of you, obviously. There were literally bees everywhere in the bakery, like on the pastries and stuff. And I was like, now this is a hive bakery.

[B]

Croissant with a b. Croissant with sting.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But no, it's been pretty good. We went to see a movie. I saw the Odyssey while I was here. How is that the movie theater going experience? We went to kind of a megaplex, AMC equivalent, you know. Very interesting. I mean, I'm spoiled in Los Angeles. Obviously wasn't great. The projection was very bad. It looked bad. And the theater itself was kind of just like run down and shitty. The movie B minus.

[C]

Huh? Spider man came out yesterday.

[A]

Yeah, it did very well. I saw that. But overall, pretty good. It's been a pretty good trip so far.

[C]

Would you stay longer if you could?

[A]

No. All right, let's move on to our fourth topic. This is another one of Trump's lies. This week, he lied about American casualties. This week, Trump altered the actual number of American deaths in Iran in an effort to make it look like fewer troops have been killed in his botched war. This. The four American troops killed during renewed US Iran fighting are no longer listed in the Defense Department's official Iran war death toll. Trump wrote in a truth social post on Tuesday that the, quote, Iran military conflict had claimed 18 lives. But by Wednesday, the Pentagon systems figures fell back to 14 dead and 420 wounded. When the New York Times first reported that four US deaths had disappeared from the casualty reporting website, the Pentagon called it a, quote, temporary data disruption. It later emerged the deaths classified three separate ways on the Pentagon system. Separately, three military officials told the Times the official count had been changed from 18 to 14, and the Pentagon couldn't fully explain why. Malm, why do you think the Pentagon reduced the number of deaths of American soldiers in Iran?

[C]

I think in any war with ongoing casualties and deaths, it's hard to count. I mean, even like Vietnam War, they couldn't count daily like that. When I Googled myself on three different sites, it was 18 that had been killed and 600 wounded. So my numbers are different than what you guys have built up.

[A]

But you have 18. I mean, I wrote this yesterday. Those numbers might have been, like, upgraded today. The 18 deaths, though, you do have that. That's what Trump tweeted as well. And then it got reduced to 14 the next day.

[C]

That is strange. I don't know. That's strange.

[A]

Well, why. Why would they be doing that? What's one reason that you can make

[C]

it look better than it is?

[A]

Yes. To lie, to deflect blame, to make it look like this war. What's going on over there?

[C]

I'm going to ask right now.

[A]

Who. What are you doing?

[B]

Who are you asking?

[C]

I'm asking my Snoop Chat GPT.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

How many deaths are.

[A]

Chat GPT is not a reliable news source. Just to let you know.

[C]

Why not?

[B]

Also, like, what. What a slap in the face to those four people and their families.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Like, Jesus Christ. Can you imagine? Like, you give your life for the country, and, like, your son, your daughter, your husband, your wife, like, somebody has d. Died. And to diminish it, you know, like, you don't even list their names. Like, that's disgraceful.

[A]

Forget even dying for your country. You gave your life for Trump's stupid war.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

As of today, August 2, there is no widely confirmed reports of new deaths in the ongoing war. In Iran, news today has focused on diplomatic efforts, with President Trump saying he would hold off an additional U.S. airstrike. The total death toll still remains at 18 servicemen killed since the war began.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And that is very sad.

[A]

So. Right. We now have evidence that they have lied about this number. They tried to downgrade it to 14. So even as you're getting this number 18, do you think it's possible more people have died that they're not telling us about?

[B]

100%, maybe. 100%.

[C]

And I didn't go on the White House page. I don't. I don't have time to do that. You'll yell at me.

[A]

Who will yell at you?

[B]

Nobody's gonna yell at you.

[A]

No, you can look at it, but, I mean, the White House page is like. It's Pete Hegseth posting that war propaganda of, like, soldiers being like, send me, send me. Have you Seen that?

[B]

That he's posting? Yes.

[A]

Disgusting ad campaign. Where's the picture of Baron Trump?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Who, by the way, I don't have this on here, but he now is being involved in all this crypto scam with his parents too. So he now is making loads of money off of crypto scams. Insider trading.

[B]

Right. Wow.

[C]

Did not know that.

[A]

The whole family is corrupt.

[B]

They all belong in fucking prison. Every one of them.

[A]

All right, moving on. Lock cameras. Have you heard about Flock cameras?

[C]

Yes, I did not. But then I researched it and I have some right here in the city I live. I had no idea.

[A]

You probably have a bunch. As the American surveillance state grows, Flock cameras have taken center stage in the argument for privacy. Flock safety is the largest provider of AI powered cameras that record every passing car, cataloging make, model, color plate number, bumper stickers, even scratches. And they upload it to a nationwide database that any agency with Flock with a Flock contract can search with no oversight. So that's cops, that's Palantir, that's any government agency. We don't get to see that footage. So if we want to see bad cops are doing or we want to see where government people are going and what kind of bad they're doing, you, you don't get to look at it. It's only them who use it to look at us. This week court records came to light that revealed a Texas deputy in May used Flock's network to hunt a woman suspected of self administering an abortion. Logging the reason as quote, had an abortion search for female. The search swept 83, 345 cameras across 6,809 networks, reaching into Washington and Illinois, where abortion is legally protected under Trump. The number of Flock cameras in the US has risen from 6205 in January 2025 to 116,084 by July 2026. An increase of roughly 110000 flock cameras. People have sawed Flock cameras down in New York, thrown paint on them in Oakland and rammed a truck into them in Idaho. While cities including Los Angeles and Denver have dropped contract with with the company. Mom, do you think the police or anyone should have access to be able to track everyone?

[B]

No.

[C]

No. That was a lot of information. I thought when I first read about it it would help Haley find out who car keyed. Keyed car keyed her car.

[A]

You know, you said by the way, for that car keying. Didn't you say one of the people who got their key card has a Tesla?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Teslas have cameras all over Them. They should have footage of it.

[B]

I'm. I. There's a detective that's on the case. There's eight cars involved now, and I

[C]

do believe that there is a suspect. Maybe they're finding some. So they better run. They better run and hide. Could that camera find them?

[B]

What, a Flock camera?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, potentially, if there was one there.

[A]

Yeah, but you're missing. The. The bigger issue is not that they're going to use Flock cameras to find the person who vandalized Haley's car. They're using it to track down a woman who had an abortion, potentially in a state where it's legal.

[C]

Right, I. I understood what you said. I misunderstood what the cameras were used for.

[B]

That's like. That's like some handmaid's tale. Yeah, that's a surveillance state. They're just watching you, waiting, hunting you down, even.

[C]

I know. Not good.

[A]

So, mom, why do you think the number of Flock cameras has increased by over 80% under Trump?

[C]

They're trying to find out more things about people, I guess.

[A]

No, you're not hearing the question. Why. Why has the number of them exploded with over 100,000 new cameras going from 6,000 to 110,000 under Trump,

[C]

trying to find people coming after him. Maybe you're.

[A]

You're not getting it.

[C]

No, I'm not.

[A]

This company. This company, Flocks, they can't put these cameras up without approval from state and federal government. So he's allowing this company to put their cameras everywhere. He allows Palantir. He asked Palantir this week to create a database of every human being in the United States. He wants to have a surveillance state so that he can find anybody at any time and say, that's a criminal. Just like the guy who was at the reflecting pool doing nothing. That's a criminal. Put him in jail. He vandalized a reflecting pool. He's an tifa. That's a leftist terrorist. Whatever. He just needs to know where people are so that he can get them and do whatever the fuck he wants with them. It's like ice, too. They're just rounding up whoever they want, throwing them in half handcuffs, putting them in prison and. And throwing away the key. None of these people are criminals.

[B]

Do you see the parallels between this and Nazi Germany? Now, do you, like, understand what's going on?

[C]

Not with cameras. This.

[B]

It's like a ramped up Nazi Germany because we have a tech. You don't understand it.

[C]

I see what you're trying to tell me, but I don't. I don't. See, it quite like that.

[A]

You are being. I mean, this already happened. This is what Edward Snowden tried to kind of like unveil to us all. The NSA already has technology where they can just type in your name, enter. They can essentially watch your computer, cell phone, any device you have. They can look at anything on it. All your emails, messages, where you're going, what you've bought, what you're watching, what you're listening to. That's what Edward Snowden was trying to warn people of. And that's why he had to flee the country, because he basically did a whistleblower thing where he was like, here's what the NSA is doing. That is obviously classified information, but it was important information to let us all know what our own government is doing in terms of surveilling us. Now it's out in the open now. Companies like Palantir, like Flock Safety, are making deals with Trump to put their. In everything so that they can collect all of the data, watch all of us all of the time, and then Trump will be able to use that, or whoever's in charge will be able to use that technology, that database and that level of surveillance to pinpoint anybody they want and find anything they want on us. And you go to jail. And you go to jail.

[C]

I can't imagine that being able to be perfected and happen with all of the people. I really can't.

[A]

They're doing it now. What are you talking about?

[C]

I just. I don't know. It's like, over my head, I guess.

[A]

How is it over your head that

[C]

every person could be identified in the whole United States?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

By a camera.

[A]

Yes, with facial recognition technology. They already have this in New York. The cops have a system like this that they use right now. So if they have, like, a suspect and they have a picture of a suspect, they throw it into this thing and it's like, where is that person? And it goes into all the public cameras, and they're like, there it is. There's the person.

[C]

And they get the wrong people, too. I do remember a story about that where they got the wrong guy.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know that I've seen that story, but this technology already exists. And what. What this story that I'm trying to explain to you is Trump is like, throwing gasoline on it and getting rid of any kind of government regulation for these companies that want to have surveillance of every US Citizen. Because he's making money off it, he's benefiting from it. When he, for example, buys stock in companies that Give technology to Palantir two weeks before he allows Palantir to make the deal to get those technologies. He has made more money in this last year than he has made, I believe, in his entire life combined.

[C]

Wow. Yeah.

[A]

You don't think that's a little suspicious?

[B]

That's a lot suspicious.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He's a criminal.

[A]

All right, moving on. I guess the sixth topic I have today on our list is the Fauci hearing. This week, Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, chaired by Senator Rand Paul, for a hearing on Covid 19's origins and the pandemic response. For nearly three hours, Fauci declined to answer questions, invoking his Fifth Amendment right more than 100 times. The dynamic was sharply partisan. Republicans, led by Paul, rehashed claims that Covid emerged from a lab in Wuhan rather than transferring naturally from animals and criticized Fauci's pandemic recommendations. Republican senators repeatedly tried to goad him into responding, which he did not do. Democrats defended him, casting the hearing as an effort to entrap him into perjury. And top Democrat Gary Peters accused Republicans of, quote, relitigating history and scapegoating one person. Fauci holds a pardon. But his legal team concluded he shouldn't answer any new questions because Republicans had implied the pardon wouldn't apply to new statements. Did you watch any of this hearing, Mom? See any clips of it or anything?

[C]

Yeah, it was funny clips where he refused to answer.

[B]

Yeah, the way that they treated him specifically. There was one guy that, like, was cussing at him and, yeah, the treatment was, like, unbelievable.

[C]

Well, he's a criminal, for starters.

[A]

What's the crime?

[B]

What'd he do?

[C]

The crime is that he lied to us where the virus came from, that he lied to us at 6 foot. Social distancing had to be done. He made that up himself. That masking was effective. We had a mental health crisis when he did this to our country. There were more youths that committed suicide than deaths from COVID There was more domestic violence during the time that he locked us down. Vaccination was made very quick. It was not. A lot of people said it was not safe. Some people said they died from it. And we do know people died from COVID too. But just the way he handled it, I, I, I think it was very bad. And I think I would call him a criminal.

[A]

So let me. There's a lot that you just said there. Let me ask you about. You said when he locked us down, right? Meaning when we all had to stay in our houses and quarantine. Right. So do you think that he did that to the whole world?

[C]

He did it to the United States

[B]

to start, and then every other country did the same shit because this was a fucking pandemic.

[C]

He was not transparent to us where the virus came from.

[A]

Hang on, hang on, Mom. Let's stay focused on this. Do you think Fauci was responsible for quarantining the entire world?

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay, so then we can erase that one from the list of the things, the complaints that you had. We can get rid of that one. Right. Because the whole world did that.

[C]

Right. They. They just followed what he said to do.

[A]

We don't think that's right.

[C]

Didn't know what to do. No one knew what to do.

[A]

I don't think that's right. We were not the first country to quarantine

[B]

and we were certainly not the. There were lots of countries that were still under quarantine when we were released to go out in the public.

[A]

China was the first country to enact large scale quarantine and lockdown during COVID specifically locking down the city of Wuhan and on and on after that. It was not us.

[C]

He misled us saying that that was from a virus from dead animals or whatever, when in fact it was from that the lab that leaked it.

[A]

No, there still is no evidence either way. Nobody knows.

[B]

Nobody knows the origin of.

[A]

There is very definitely, I think, some kind of COVID up being done by the Chinese government in regard to that, where it actually came from or whatever, but nobody actually knows. And what you're talking about with the vaccine killing people, there's no evidence of that. The only evidence we have about how the vaccine affected pandemic or affected people who. Who had Covid was that it actually reduced mortality rates

[B]

just like any vaccine. Think about influenza. Think about all the vaccine vaccinations that we get as children. At one point in time, people died from those. They no longer die from those things because we have vaccinations. What was he to do? What were we supposed to do?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you not want a vaccine for Covid? You want it to just run rampant?

[C]

I didn't take the vaccine. I thought it was made too quick, quickly, too fast. And I was willing to get the virus to let my body try to overcome it, then take a vaccine that I didn't know what was in it.

[B]

That's insane.

[C]

Your father and I did not take the vaccine. You know this.

[B]

That's crazy.

[C]

And we made it through. We did. I did get Covid and so did your dad. But. Well, I took ones.

[B]

I took multiple vaccines and nothing happened to me.

[C]

Okay? Ask your brother.

[A]

I took multiple vaccines and also got Covid.

[B]

I mean, yes, I also got Covid,

[C]

and he also had the room spinning around and became very sick on the boost. You told me on the booster, you became very sick.

[B]

Chad almost died getting the vaccine.

[A]

That is a massive exaggeration. It did make me a little sick, but as any vaccine can do.

[C]

Okay, whatever.

[A]

Okay, whatever. But I didn't.

[B]

That happens when you get, like, the flu shot.

[C]

No, it does. Not with me. I get flu shots. I get pneumonia shots.

[B]

Fine. It happens to other people. Like you get a little hit of that virus.

[C]

Well, I happen to know one of dad's friends died from the vaccine, got blood clots in the lungs, and was gone six months later.

[B]

I'm sure there were underlying health conditions there.

[C]

No, not really.

[B]

Yes. You don't just go out like that.

[C]

Okay? I know people died from COVID too, and I'm sorry about that.

[A]

So why do you think Republicans called this hearing with Fauci?

[C]

Because they believe that it wasn't handled correctly, and they wanted. They just wanted some answers out of him that he wouldn't give. He wouldn't even give answers. What, 110 times?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know who else?

[C]

Ridiculous.

[B]

You know who else doesn't give answers?

[C]

If he had nothing to hide, he would tell the truth. He would tell him. Give him the answer.

[A]

Interesting. Now, will you apply that same logic to Donald Trump in the Epstein files?

[C]

How many times did he plead the fifth Donald Trump? Yeah.

[A]

Every time the Epstein files are brought up, I've been exonerated. Move on. He literally said, we need to move on as a country from the Epstein files.

[C]

Well, Fauci wouldn't answer a damn question,

[A]

so neither will Trump.

[B]

Why would he? Chatter explained why he won't answer questions, why he's been pardoned. So if he says literally anything, they're going to try to put him in prison where he does not belong, by the way.

[C]

I thought you meant that.

[A]

Mom, you said if. If he's not guilty, he should be able to answer these questions. So can you apply that same logic to Trump and the Epstein files?

[C]

Yeah. He answers. He says, I'm not guilty. Okay, she didn't say that.

[A]

Right, but Trump's name is in the MC files more than anybody else. You think he's not. Not guilty? You're just going to take him at face value? You already know that he lied about the guy at the reflecting pool. Was Willing to put that guy in jail forever. A lie

[C]

he was. But the judges wouldn't.

[B]

Okay, Jesus.

[A]

I think that wraps up our show. That's all that I had on my list. I hope that I got all the most important things. Like I said, it's interesting. When you're out of the country, the news that reaches you is, like, slightly different. You know, I know that there are a bunch of big things happening. There are fires in Spokane. I'm sure you've seen those. Horrific.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

I've seen some stuff about Max Miller, that guy who's a Republican senator, and the accusations of abuse.

[B]

Oh, right, the one who threw, like, scalding water on his wife and broke his two year old's collarbone.

[A]

Yeah. And the Republicans are just like, well, I don't know. He's a good guy. He's fine.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Anyways, mom, that wraps up the rest of this show. Mom, you have something you wanted to say?

[C]

Well, let's say we love each other. I love you, Chad. I love you, Haley. I love you, Bob. Bob's getting better.

[A]

I love you, Haley. I love you, Mom. And I love dad, too.

[B]

I love you guys. And, Dad,

[C]

I am going to talk about a girl. I'll try to get through this. I can do this. Juliana Joy Curry. She was a beautiful young lady. My best friend. I don't even know why she was my best friend. I'm 71. She was 26. I want to make a tribute when I talk about her today. She was on our podcast. She's my manga friend. She was loyal to me in Shiny. She helped me write Shiny. She helped me get whatever I needed at the barn. Her and her boyfriend Erin. She was on when she was younger, a scholarship in Kansas, a rodeo girl. She did the breakaway roping. She was really good at that. The first time I ever met her, I saw her come out of a tack room at a barn. I go, wow, who is that? I want to be just like her. She had on blue jeans that were rolled up like the cowgirls do. And I stuck out my hand. I said, who are you? I said, I'm Mary Lou. She said, I'm Jules. I said, wow. I said, I love those jeans. She said, thanks. I said, what are you doing here? She said, I'm going to just do a few trail rides. I said, you are so good. They're going to use you for a lot of things. And from there, she became an instructor. She did trail rides, she did lessons. She did summer camps. She was so good, they used her with all the horses. And she fed horses there, too. She taught me a lot about writing. She taught Shiny a lot and made him become a better horse. She was the first one that came to our house after dad got home from the hospital once and brought us some food. She brought her dog, so she was our first visitor at home. I have so many happy memories with her. And every time I had been with her, we laughed and laughed and laughed. We never talked sad stuff. We did talk politics. She believed the same things I did, which is very odd because she's so young, like I keep saying. Why was she my kindred soul? I don't know. We loved animals, I guess. We loved horses, we loved politics, and she loved our podcast. She would always say, mary Lou, say what you want to say. Haley and Chad are kind of beating you down, but say what you want to say back to them. But be careful with the words you use. I was, like I said, honored that she was my friend. Each time she left the barn, I'd say, thank you, Jules. We love you. Shiny loves you. And we'd hug. She was young, smart, full of life ahead. She passed away yesterday. She loved Aaron, her boyfriend. She couldn't wait to marry him and have babies. She loved her family, her niece and nephew that I always got pictures of. She left her job as a paramedic, and she was studying to be a physician's assistant. She shared food pictures with me all the time. We loved to go eat Mexican food. Bob would take us out. Margaritas. Two sips for me. I was under the table. We were laughing. Her signature color, of course, is pink. If you have a best friend and you don't know their signature color, you don't have a best friend. I'm so glad that we rode Shiny together. I'm so glad I got to spend such great times with her. Life is never given. Each second that we live is a blessing. If you are thinking about talking to a family member, if you're thinking about talking to somebody that you haven't. If you're thinking about telling someone you love them, tell them today. Go have shenanigans. That's what Jules and I did. One time we went to a barn. She'd always take me to new barns when I needed to be packed up and go. One time, she took me to a new barn. There was no bathroom. We had to pee. Pee in a coffee cup or in a coffee can outside. Those are the kind of shenanigans we did. I know she believed in God. We talked about it. I know she's a better believer than I was. And now I want to be better. I know she's in heaven. I know I'm a better person because of her. I'll miss her greatly. I was supposed to ride horses with her today. She was supposed to ride my shiny. And what happened? She had heat exhaustion down at her job. Then she came back, hydrated, went back down. She thought she was doing okay, but some kind of bacterial infection got into her brain. They care flighted her back to Oklahoma City. And they made the decision on Saturday. Yesterday, about one o'.

[B]

Clock.

[C]

And I got the call from Aaron. She loved her boyfriend and he loved her. We will miss you, Jules. Greatly.

[A]

Damn. I'm really sorry, mom. I. I've met her a couple of times and. And obviously she was on the show. It's such a sad story. And.

[C]

And I'm able to do this because my brain is not allowing me to even think yet that this has even occurred. Even though I've got phone calls, I've talked to everyone. My brain's not allowing me to grasp it yet. It will later, I guess. I'm in denial.

[B]

Like anybody dying is always sad. But someone so young is like the worst.

[C]

26. Sympathy to her family. Sympathy to her brothers, sisters, and Aaron and her horses and her puppies. And they will all be taken care of. And I'll miss you, Jules.

[A]

Yeah, our. Our sympathies to the family as well. That's a really just horrible story. But thanks, mom, for doing the show today. I hope at least talking to me and Haley, you know, was helpful to some degree. We do love you. We're here for you.

[C]

I know. Okay.

[A]

And we'll be back next Sunday.

[C]

I sent you a picture of her too, if you want to put it up later.

[A]

Yeah, I got a bunch of them from you. I'll put them all in this thing.

[C]

Okay. Bye.

[A]

Bye.