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In the Aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it as America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule. Now, more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the Necessary Conversation. Three people of the family here today, a rarity on this show. We've got Haley back from gallivanting. Mom's here and it's me. We got a lot to cover this week. So much. We've got Trump trying to buy a private military island. We've got, obviously, the war still continuing. We've got Trump's replacement for head of national intelligence as a joke. We've got Trump losing bigly with his anti weaponization fund. We've got, of course, Trump falling asleep publicly yet again. And Trump is afraid of influencers. We're going to be covering all of that today. Mom, before we get into it, do you have any ditties?
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I just wanted to say that I never thought in my wildest dreams that four years ago when we started this podcast, that I would need this podcast in that it lets me talk to you guys and it takes my mind off dad right now as he's trying to get stronger. So it gives me a little break from that. So thank you. Thank you, conversation and my children, my pleasure.
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I have noticed you are, for the first time in a long time wearing a Trump hat.
C
Yeah, why not? The hat I brought you back, huh?
B
I was going to save it for the diddy. I'm not the diddy. The simmer down mixed up. I'm saving it for the simmer down, but there you go.
A
All right.
B
And I'm doing this because Chad's been on me.
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Why I'm not on you. I'm just curious. What, what made you do it this morning when you woke up and you said, I'm going to choose my hat for the show. Why choose that one?
B
Because you've been on my ass about not wearing it. So there you go.
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All right, so you are still maga. Before we get into the main meat of the show, we do have a listener question. If you would like to submit a question to the show, all you have to do is record it in a one minute or shorter video clip, send it to the necessary conversation pod gmail.com in the subject line, make sure you write question or something like that so that I know this is a question. The email for this podcast now is it's difficult to get through. I'll simply say that are you ready for today's question? Mom, it's.
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Yeah.
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There we go.
C
Hi, Mary Lou. Ignore her mare stare. I promise you, she's very sweet. I do have a question for you.
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Can you tell me a little bit about your horse?
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This is Honey, and she and I have been together for 15 years now. She's a Missouri foxtrotter, and she turns 17 next week. We do primarily trail riding, and we
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have dabbled in some endurance.
C
So tell me about your horse, please.
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There you go, Mom.
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Oh, that was nice. Sweet question. Shiny Hiney is a aqha Quarter Horse, 14 hands, 13 years old. I've owned him for three and a half, almost four years. I rode my Shiny Hiney maybe nine years ago, and at that time, I used to go out to a friend's house and take a few lessons on him. He is like a little Ferrari if you let him. And the last ride on him, I kissed him goodbye. That nine years ago. I said, see you later, alligator. You're too quick for me. And then when he came up for sale four and a half years ago, I was looking for a short horse, something that was well trained, which he is, very well trained. And Bob said, you ain't getting any younger. If you want a horse, buy him. And we did. And I saw him this morning. He was enjoying his cotton candy, his carrots.
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He eats cotton candy.
B
Cotton candy is alfalfa for him. Carrots. I fly sprayed him. I coconut oiled his legs for flies. What else did he get? He got some other fly spray. He thinks he's in retirement right now, but he's not. You have to be in the right mind to ride your horse. And right now my mind's all over the place for a while with Bob getting better. As soon as my mind gets more centered, I'm hopping back on. He has won me like a third in the world show in Western dressage. We ride Western dressage. He's cowie. He likes cows. Someday I'd love to learn how to sort on him and do more cowie things. So right now, I do Western dressage with him.
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All right, there you have it. Thanks for the question again. If anybody else has any questions recorded in a one minute or shorter video format, send it to the necessary conversation pod@gmail.com. put in that subject line question. Thank you very much. Let's now dive in to this program. Our first topic, Trump's private military island. This week, Ivanka Trump appeared on a podcast describing how she and Jared Kushner discovered Cezanne island by accident. And planned to turn it into a 1.4 billion dollar resort. Cezanne island though, has already been discovered. It's a former military zone containing 3,600 Cold War nuclear bunker. Nuclear bunkers, miles of tunnels, an underground hospital, an underground school, an underground cinema and a half century old Soviet submarine base. All formerly controlled by the Albanian armed forces. Thousands of Albanians protested immediately in one of the largest demonstration jet chanting Albania is not for sale. The real estate firm Kushner is doing the deal through a affinity partners is funded largely by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Abu Dhabi. Mom, do you think the Trump family should have a private military bunker island?
B
No.
A
What, so you're against them doing this?
B
Yes, because there are animals involved too. And they keep saying, I read a little bit about it. It said they've hired a consulting firm to look into the environmental impact of it all. But there's seals, there's turtles, there's flamingos. That's baloney. And if they really want to do something big like that, what's wrong with the United States? Why do we have to find an island in a different country where people don't want you to go there anyway? Do something in the United States to help our people. Okay, that's my answer.
A
Very interesting. Haley, what do you think of them buying this private military bunker island?
C
I mean, I think all, all people with the last name Trump are pieces of shit. I think that we all know now that, that it's a family there. They're stealing from us. Now they're stealing from other countries. It's very clear that Albania as, as a people doesn't want this. But their president, what is their president called? I don't even know a president.
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What's that?
C
What is Albania's like leader called? Is it their president?
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Anyway, let me google.
C
But he basically said like, I don't give a if it's 500 people or 500,000 people. I'm making this deal because, you know, it's all about, it's a money transaction at this point. Yeah, this is all about money. And they don't give a. About the environment or the people. It's all about capitalizing on, on other people's misfortunes. I mean, they're trying to level Gaza to build like a luxury resort just like this to make money.
A
Yeah, but I mean this one too, I just googled it. Albania does have a president. The, this is slightly different though, because under this island are miles of this military infrastructure that has like bunkers and shit that can survive nuclear blasts.
C
Right. So all the billionaires, all of the ultra wealthy, like, you know, oil and gas and even fucking actors, I'm sure, like whoever is super fucking wealthy can now buy their fucking piece of this island and be safe from any kind of world war that may occur. So they're. They're doing this on purpose because they know what's coming.
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Have you seen.
B
You're saying they're going to use the bunkers underneath? I thought they were just 100.
C
You think they just stumbled upon this on accident?
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She's like, we were just out on our yacht and we. We walked out of the yacht into the water barefoot, found this island. It's like, weird. You. You just happened upon this island that has a nuclear submarine port in it.
B
Yeah, I thought it was. They were. They were going to build hotels and stuff more.
C
Well, they are. It's luxury living. But also underneath, you're safe from the war that's coming that we coming because their dad is causing it.
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Yes. This is. Did you watch Fallout Season 2?
C
Not yet.
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Or do you know anything about the Fallout video game?
C
I watched the season one, yeah.
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The whole premise of Fallout, the video game and now the. The television show is that there is this giant mega corporation. Mom, you with us?
B
Yes. I was looking about the animals that they're going to disrupt.
A
There's a giant mega corporation called Vault Tec in this world. They build these vaults that can withstand a nuclear annihilation, essentially. And they have people pay the money to secure your space in the vault in case there's a nuclear war coming. Then that company creates the nuclear war so that they can sell more spaces in the vault. This is basically what Trump is. Is trying to do, I think. How does Trump. Mom, you kind of already answered this, but I'm curious to. To drill into it a little bit more. You said they shouldn't be doing this, buying this island. You said he should be helping America. So he's engaged in multiple endeavors globally that do not help America. This is just one of them. How many of these things have to mount up before you realize he does not give a about America, do you? Well, let me ask you, do you still think Trump cares about America?
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I don't even know what to say at this point. I really don't. I. I don't. I think he is disconnected from the people in the United States that matter. I do. The people that need help, the people that need help with groceries, the people that need help with gas, the people that need better housing, that need better insurance. Why is he not helping us? Why is he not helping?
C
He never cared. He grifted you. He gave you all of these promises and then never delivered because the ultimate goal was to pillage his own people. He is stealing from us every day and he lied to you. And now all of those lies are like, seeping in and you're realizing like, oh, he doesn't care about us.
B
He never did in the beginning when he was first elected. The border, he has closed the border. We're doing better there, that's for sure. That's one thing I keep coming back to. And then I go, what's, what's something else? I. It's getting hard.
A
The closing of the border is like, he doesn't actually care about that. He knows that there is a certain contingent of his base who is very racist, xenophobic, and so he can play to that. And he himself is, are those things as well. So he enjoys seeing the cruelty delivered to like a family who gets ripped apart by ice. He likes seeing that. He takes pleasure in it. Beyond that, he doesn't care about keeping America's border safe. Like he, he does not give a about that. Clearly.
B
He's letting. If I disagree.
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No, but listen, listen. He's like, keep America's border safe. Then how many foreign nationals does he have coming to his private clubs, coming to Mar a Lago where he's laying out secret documents and at meetings? Remember when he did that with China? He, he doesn't actually care about keeping the border safe and like, keeping people who are not American out. As long as you have money, you can come in, period. Doesn't matter where you're from. But selling the million dollar citizenship card, he's just selling it to anybody who can buy it.
B
He doesn't want people coming in the United States that are going to put bombs in every city in the United States and blow us up.
A
He doesn't care if you have a million dollars, you can buy citizenship. That's a program he set up.
B
And I'm sure they do a background check to make sure these people are coming for education or something like that. He doesn't want bad people in here blowing up the United States.
C
I mean, he's best friends with Netanyahu who is blowing up his, who's blowing up Gaza, right? Like there, that has become our ally. Like somebody who is trying to eradicate an entire population of people. Like we are the bad guys. And it's because of Donald Trump.
B
I think he needs to connect more with American people. I do.
C
Oh, he ain't doing that. Remember when we're talking about how he fired Pam Bondi and he fired Kristi Noemi, fired all these women. I just wanted to bring it up. Cash Patel still in office. Fucking Hespest, still in office.
B
I've heard that's going bad, though. That might be the next one to go.
A
It is, but they're still there. And he just put a new guy in, in Tulsi Gabbard spot, who we're going to talk about a little bit later in the show. I just want to make it clear. Like, he is now building a bunker under that ballroom. You can see him building it, and he's even openly talking about it. He is now buying a military island that has secret bunkers in it. And this man is preparing for the end of the world and to survive it and buy the rubble that is left. What they're doing in Gaza, he is planning to do globally.
B
I don't know if that's the end game, but like I said, he needs to help America.
A
Okay, this was not a topic because it kind of happened today. Did you see him storm out of an interview on Meet the Press like a baby?
C
No.
B
Watch. Dad and I were watching it together.
A
Okay.
B
I asked dad what he thought about that. He said he should have stormed out.
C
What happened, what transpired?
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He was getting asked a question, of course, by a woman about. I forget what they were even talking about. But he starts going into how California's elections are rigged. And she's like, do you have any evidence for that? And he's like, of course. And she's like, where do you get the evidence? And she's like, from. He goes from looking, from listening. And she says, that's not evidence. And then he starts calling her names and you're crooked and blah, blah. And she's like, I'm not crooked. And he's like, yes, you are. This interview's over. And he storms out when she simply. He's like, there's evidence of fraud and all these elections. And she's like, what's the evidence? And he's like, you. I'm out.
B
It was on Meet the Press. It was an interview exchange with NBC's Chris Kirsten or Kristen Welker over the 2020 election. And, yeah, he stormed out after he was claiming that election was stolen from him. Then he started to go into the California elections that are going on right now, which are a bit kind of dicey, too. California takes a long time to turn
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those ballots in, but that's how it's always been. It's not dicey.
B
Well right now, like after they did with the mayor race, a bunch of ballot dumps, you know my AI, Spencer Pratt. Now he may not. It looks like the lady in the third came up to second.
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Yeah.
B
This was two hours ago. So maybe Spencer Pratt is out of the runoff in November now.
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Good.
B
And yeah, anyway, he stood up and said I'm out of here and left and. But she was kind of pushing him, dad. And I watched it pushing him.
A
He, he made the claim that these elections are fraudulent and that he has evidence. She says, what's the evidence? And he's like, fuck you, I'm out.
B
Then he started calling her names and that was ridiculous. And all the other agency networks names and he stormed down of there. Yeah.
C
Dad goes, just think about this. So think about literally any other president that, that we've seen in our lifetime doing this. Can you even imagine that? Like the blowback, what would happen to him?
B
I think maybe I did see one with Obama. Maybe then you didn't.
C
No, that he didn't.
B
I think.
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Where, where's your evidence? Donald Trump.
C
No, you didn't.
B
Like. And I've seen Biden stand up and leave before the lady was done with one.
C
But have you, have you ever seen a US President call women names, belittle them, say they're, you know, you're not a credible source, you're full of shit. Like it is constantly, he's constantly doing this on air, do you think? And only to women.
B
That's what I, that's what I wanted to say. What if that, do you think if that was a man reporter, he would not have done that?
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Correct.
C
He has never done this to male reporters. It's always the women. And he just told the one from cnn, what is her name? Caitlyn Caitlin Collins. Yeah, he, he basically said like you're a terrible person, you need to smile more. Why aren't you smiling? Like that's the age old fudgeing. Like don't, don't tell me to smile. She's reporting, she's doing her fudgeing job. Like she's not an object. She's a fudgeing reporter.
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And specifically in that moment you're, specifically in that moment you're bringing up Haley. She was asking him about Epstein survivors and he's like mile more.
C
Exactly, exactly.
B
I do, dad. And I watched the first part of it and he was, he was more agitated than he's been Trump.
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Because he's dying.
B
He was agitated, he got up, he left, and that was that.
C
And he's just a piece of period. He's a piece of.
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All right, moving on, our next subject. The war continues. We are now heading into the 15th week of Trump's illegal war in Iran. There is no end in sight. Despite Trump's almost daily claims that we're close to a peace deal. This week, Iran launched a deadly attack in the Persian Gulf, trading strikes with the United States. One person was killed and 63 were injured. In Kuwait, one significant damage to its international airport. On Friday, CENTCOM reported that the US Shot down four drones and struck Iranian radar sites after drones were fired toward the straight of Hormuz. Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman said no negotiations have taken place at this stage on the details of the nuclear issue, while the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio told Congress there are indications that new. The new Supreme Leader is increasingly engaged at some level with negotiations. Though he hasn't been seen in public since succeeding his father. A military aide to Iran's supreme leader told CNN that any peace deal depends on Washington releasing $24 billion in frozen Iranian assets, warning that renewed fighting would push the US Into a dark corridor. This is roughly the exact same amount of money the war has cost the United States so far. Mom, you said this war would be over in six weeks. We're in week 15. How long do you think it's going to last?
B
Now, I'm sorry I said that, and I think your dad even said it. What, sooner than that?
A
He said four weeks.
B
He said four. I said six. There's no timeline. I don't, I don't. Why doesn't he give us a timeline? I would like to see a timeline
C
because he's making deals and trades and making money off of this whole thing. This war will not end until Donald Trump is fucking dead.
B
Well, I saw an article that he said if the negotiations don't go better his way, even now he's saying boots on the ground. That would be terrible. That would be terrible.
A
He is waiting. In my opinion, this is what is. Is going through his head. He's building his nuclear bunker at the White House. He's going to buy this Albanian nuclear bunker. Once he has that in place and there is a path for him to get to that safe location, he's going to drop a nuclear weapon in Iran.
B
That's years, Chad, that. No. Yeah. How can you build all that stuff out in a year or even less?
A
I don't know. But he's telling them, hurry it the up. I, I don't think like, I agree with Haley. He doesn't I don't know if it's by design or not, but clearly he doesn't have a plan to get out of this war or it would be enacted by now.
C
Right.
B
I want to see a timeline. Maybe that. And I do think. Did that interviewer press him on that? Were they. Were they talking about the war, too, when he stomped out?
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That I don't know.
C
Yeah, but, like, what's he trying to achieve? Are we just trying to go back to the way it was before he started the war? Is that what we're trying to achieve? This was all in vain. It was for no reason other than him capitalizing on it. He's making money off of this.
B
It was to make sure that they don't have a bomb to drop on us.
C
They fucking don't. They're not. They haven't. They haven't. Like, this was a moot point. This was not even a. It didn't matter. This was all for nothing.
A
Every intelligence agency said they don't have
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a nuclear weapon, but they have, like, 20 right. Yet to make or something. I read that the other day.
C
This is another. This is another example of how he is lying to you to get you scared to believe all of his bullshit. He is just lying to the American public. There was no reason to do this. And now he is getting richer by the fucking day off of this war while we're struggling to pay rent and buy groceries. He doesn't give a fuck. He lied to you again.
B
The first time that we went in there, I thought we did it because there were like seven or eight of those big leaders in one spot. He wanted to try to get them.
A
But which is it, then? Is it that he wanted to get the leaders or did he want to stop the nuclear program?
B
Both of them. Those were the two main things, is what I remember.
C
And now that he has, I guess, in his terms, liberated Iran, are the people better off there? Are they doing better?
B
I have no idea. I haven't seen much about that lately.
A
No, they're being killed, so, no, they're not doing better.
B
Okay.
A
Do you think that there is any. Well, let me ask you this. What do you think the world, when they look at this, thinks of the United States and the United States military, now that we've been in this war for 15 weeks, we can't win it against what is perceived to be a military. That is far less than what we have in terms of power.
B
I think if we would have went in and stopped it right away and got out, they would have thought Better of us now it's lingering. There's no timeline. They're probably not thinking the best, but
C
stopped what you keep saying stopped it. Stopped what?
B
All of the nuclear that didn't exist, all of the bombs that didn't exist, and got rid of the top of those people that for 47 years had been killing their own people.
C
Well, apparently we did that, right? So why aren't the people celebrating?
B
There are people. I. I've showed Chad a clip of a guy on YouTube that I was watching him of one guy.
A
I'm sure there are people in Iran who are happy about this or they think that it's leading to a better outcome or whatever, but, mom, your attitude about the purpose of it was to go in and get rid of their nuclear capability and shut down a regime that was killing its own citizens. Right? Do you think we should be doing that in every country in the world that has those two things?
B
Give me another country that has that ability.
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Russia.
C
United States.
A
No, I mean, we're not going to attack ourselves, but Russia has that capability. Should we go to war with Russia?
B
Well, I don't know if they're going. If they're going to attack us.
A
Huh? They. They have been attacking us, just not with military. They've been launching information campaigns in the United States for the last fucking 50 years. And now they're working because they've installed Donald Trump.
C
But by your logic, we are those people. Okay? Donald Trump is killing his own citizens. We do have nuclear weapons. So by your logic, we are the bad guys.
B
Donald Trump is not killing citizens in the United States.
A
Renee Good. Alex Preddy literally killed by government agents.
C
A slew of people that ICE has kidnapped and fucking murdered who were United States citizens. They're all over these concentration camps. Like, there's reports of people dying, and they are United States citizens. He's literally killing us.
B
I don't agree with you on that.
C
And now they want, like, another, what, $70 billion to fund more ice. That's our money they're stealing from us. Donald Trump is stealing your money.
B
I. I really don't see it that way, but.
A
Okay, well, maybe this next segment will help you see it that way. Another clown comes to the circus. This week, Trump installed his replacement for Tulsi Gabbard. Bill Pulte is the new head of National Intelligence. Pulte is a Trump loyalist with no national security or intelligence experience. He is the heir to a family real estate fortune, which he leveraged to make millions in private equity before being named Trump's pick to lead the US Intelligence community. Pulte did not have a security clearance, making it difficult to oversee all 18 US intelligence agencies which require a security clearance. Trump told the Wall Street Journal he considers the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to be unnecessary or too big, and said, there are a lot of people in there that shouldn't be there. And he told Pulte to start the process of firing as many as he could, which includes the CIA and National Security Agency. Many think Pulte will be used to interfere in this fall's midterm elections by casting doubt on their validity if they don't go Trump's way. And. And even Trump himself has indicated that he'll use Pulte to invalidate election results by saying, quote, he's very smart. He's a person who's got high integrity. He's done a phenomenal job. He may find out some things about the rigged elections. So he's already planting in your mind that that's what Bill Pulte's job is going to be, to start telling you the 2020 election was rigged. Mom. Why do you think Trump installed a person who has no security clearance to lead all 18 intelligence agencies, each of which require security clearance?
B
And his background was finance, right?
A
Correct. Money, homes, finance money, and real estate.
B
This isn't the guy that you showed me last Wednesday with the hitting of the dildo people.
A
Yes, that's this guy.
B
Yeah. Not good. I have. Not good. He's not picking the right people here, but.
A
Okay, so why do you think he picked this guy, then?
B
To do what he wants him to do, I guess. I don't know.
A
Huh.
C
Exactly.
A
And what does he want him to do?
B
All the things that you just read to me.
A
Okay. And so do you think that's what a president should be doing?
B
No.
A
Okay.
B
It should be the best person for the job.
C
So at what point do you just say that Donald Trump is a sack of shit? When can you admit that? When can you say, I don't want him to be the president anymore?
B
Not yet.
C
When?
B
God, not yet.
C
I just don't understand. Like, what does it fucking take? We're in a war that we shouldn't be in. America is in, like, the worst position it's fucking ever been in. Certainly in our lifetime.
A
In our lifetime, yes, but not certainly an hour. I think the Civil War was probably.
C
Probably the worst time for America in our lifetime.
A
Yeah.
C
Like, did you ever think you'd see shit like this? Like, with our health care, with groceries, with gas prices, with everything that's going on. Like their kids coming out of college who are getting like decent jobs. They are not paid enough to fudgeing live. Okay. So they're moving home with their family members. Like everything is just fucked right now. And it's because of Donald Trump at point. Do you acknowledge that we are in this predicament because of him during wartime?
B
Nothing has ever been good during that
C
was even prior to wartime. Like he has literally just been nose diving this country since day one.
B
No, I think it started when the war started. We need to get out of the war.
C
He mismanaged Covid. Now we're in a fucking war.
B
We did not mismanage it. There were other people that mismanaged that.
A
I didn't put this on the list. But there's a resurgence in Texas of the screw worm. Have you heard about this?
B
Yeah.
C
And that was literally because eradicated since 1966.
B
Oh, and that's Donald Trump's.
A
Yeah. It's literally hilarious. Literally. Elon Musk fired all the people who tracked the screw worm.
C
They defunded the program that kept that kept this in check. And guess what happened? Nobody's monitoring this anymore. So. So now it's back.
B
Yeah.
C
And it's literally going to end. It's going to end the, the, the cattle farmers in Texas.
B
It's in the main, dude. It's in the main. Yeah, it's in the main.
C
It's going to end an entire industry.
A
But that's literally Donald Trump's fault when he brought in Elon Musk Doge to look for all the waste, fraud and abuse. They cut that program to save money.
B
You can't tell me somebody wasn't keeping an eye on this. You can't.
A
They fired them. They fired those people.
C
The department is gone.
A
That the whole. One of the biggest things that an authoritarian does when they come into government is they fire as many people as they can and they're bringing in Bill Pulte right now. He. He told them, basically, your job is to fire everybody at the NSA and the CIA. Why do you think he's doing that?
B
Don't know.
A
So he can make up whatever he wants so he can have this guy installed. You fire everybody who is career level at the CIA and the nsa. Mom, what's going on?
B
I want to Google. Why is the screw worm in the United States?
A
No, listen to what I'm saying first. Have this conversation with me.
B
I'm here.
A
Okay. He's bringing this guy in to fire everybody at the two biggest intelligence agencies in the United States, Right. And then that guy is just going to start saying he's going to have a small group of loyalists around him and they're all going to say, we found evidence the election in 2020 was rigged and there's nobody now at these big intelligence agencies to push back against that by saying this is a fucking lie because they fired them all. As a result of that, Trump will get what he wants in terms of being able to float this fake information out. But now we don't have a CIA or an nsa. So any terrorist who wants to come into here, anybody, any bad actor who wants to come to the United States, fucking open gates. You're talking about the border being secure. You think the border is going to be more secure with the CIA and the NSA gutted?
B
No.
A
That's what he's doing. That's the plan.
B
Why did this all happen? Just because Tulsi Gabbard quit, Resigned to go be help her husband. Then all of a sudden you're saying all of this is Donald Trump's fault?
A
Yes, because this is the plan. He comes in initially and he says, here's my cabinet. He selects all these people who seem to be loyalists, but many of them are still. Are you listening?
B
I am right here.
A
Okay. Many of them are still from the old regime. Tulsi Gabbard is a career politician. Marco Rubio's in there. He's got a bunch of people in his cabinet who are not exactly purely sycophants. These are some people who have, like, institutional memory, who may even have aspirations after the Trump administration to continue a career in politics. And they understand that they can't fully go down the MAGA rabbit hole. They get fired. And the people he's now got in place of these, this guy Bill Pulte, Todd Blanch at the head of the doj, that's his personal lawyer. These are people who will never tell him no.
C
What's the other one? Billy Bob? John Wayne. What's his name?
A
Mark Wayne Mullen.
C
Jesus Christ. Like, it's just a circus.
A
Yes, exactly. And you've got in. The reason he's not getting rid of Hegseth and Cash Patel is because they are men and because those always say yes.
B
Always. We will see.
C
You keep saying we will see. You already see. Yeah, I didn't fire them. They're still here.
B
I am reading stuff that. They may not be here long.
A
Uh huh. Okay.
B
Jesus Christ.
C
Anyway, you need to literally, like, keep shiny, like check for lesions and things, because those screw worms spread like wildfire and they Will kill horses.
B
I know, I know, I'm.
A
Are you googling screwworm?
B
Yes.
A
What are you Googling? What's it say?
B
The Department of Agriculture confirmed cases in the new world of the screwworm, a flesh eating parasite fly in South Texas first discovered early.
A
Hang on. What you need to Google is, did Elon Musk fire the agency that tracks screw worms?
B
Okay,
A
well, wait,
C
I mean, it's not. It's not say that.
B
What, that.
A
That tracks the screw worms? Something like that. Yeah.
C
They're firing all of these kind of environmental agencies that have kept track of, you know, global warming, like the death of bees. Like there are all of these little pockets of kind of people who are expert in certain flora and fauna and just like our environment altogether. And they have shit canned all programs. And so now we're all going to suffer for it.
B
The screw worm is returning to the United States and Mexico due to a mix of changing climate conditions, the relaxation of livestock monitoring of international borders and disruptions in the breeding programs that once were kept contained.
C
Right.
B
Funding cuts to border monitoring and inspection programs have allowed livestock from effective areas to cross borders with less surveillance.
C
Right. So they defunded the programs that kept that in check.
B
Yeah, I don't see musk in there anywhere yet.
A
But yeah, you will find it. All right, moving on. Let's simmer down a little bit. Haley, you were absent from the podcast for over one week.
C
Yeah.
A
Tell us about your trip.
C
We went to Ireland mostly. Like the southern end. We didn't hit Northern Ireland. Had to drive on the opposite side of the road. That was scary. Ireland's like country roads are terrifying. Very narrow. You. You can't fit two cars side by side. So it's like you have to stop back up and try to find a clearing. The driving there was insane and. And the Irish people drive quite fast, so that was a little scary. But we saw, you know, like all the sites and we did all the things and I think we got really good weather because it wasn't. Ireland is like notorious for having doom and gloom and rain and just always wet and gross. But we got a lot of sunshine and rainbow. Those literally. So I don't know, like, the weather was actually quite nice. I don't know. We had a great time. It's always nice to leave the United States.
A
What was the highlight?
C
Highlight. Honest to go. Okay, so we did this thing in. It's called Lockheim and it's like a giant lake. It's big and it's really deep. Okay. And our guide took us out at night. So it started at 9:30pm and went until about 1 in the morning. So we got in these kayaks at night and he took us out into the middle of this lock and he told us underneath us are like lobsters that are four feet long, scallops the size of dinner plates. So this is a protected area. No one is allowed to fish here or like interrupt the ecosystems. And it is used for like, biological research. So a lot of people come here like year round from everywhere around the world to study like, what's under there. Yeah. And. And he said there's like a. I forget what he called it. There's a line that runs from Ireland all the way to Palestine. And along this line are like different spiritual sites where you're supposed to feel like a certain magnetic vibration that doesn't exist outside of this line and that lock is on the line. And so at one point he's telling us about all this underneath and he said, I'm not religious in any regard, but I come out here late at night and I have like, spiritual experiences. And so he told us all to like, close our eyes and just be silent. And we all did it. And it was like your whole body just kind of vibrated. Yeah, it was strange. And then, you know, he said, okay, like, open your eyes. And he goes, just tilt your head back. And we all looked up bats, just like over our heads, like, holy. Okay, so why we went, though? So that was just like an added bonus, right? So we all had this weird spiritual, like, hum in our body and then bats, right. Anyway, so we're sitting there and he takes us along, like the coastline kind of like up against a cave. And this is why we went. He said, okay, I want you to splash the water. So I take my hand and splash the water. It's just like lightning and like glitter in the water. It's bioluminescent algae. And he goes, if you look close enough. And we are, because it's pitch black. It's like fucking midnight. And he goes, just stay still. And as you splash the water, he said, there's shrimp under there. Giant shrimp. He said, giant. They eat this algae and when they get scared, they. And throw up the algae. And so as they got scared and you're looking in the water, it's like just lightning. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Like all in the water, all around you, just glowing with like shrimp and barfing. Like
A
that sounds awesome.
C
Yeah. But like, that's why we went. So that was, I think, for all of us, that Kind of was like life changing. I've never seen or experienced anything like that in my whole life.
B
That's cool. But like, what Chad said is, Chad and I would never be able to go on vacation with you because you do 10 days and 15 things a day. And you better get dressed.
A
Moving.
B
And here we go. We could never do that. Yeah.
C
I'm not going to lie. We wake up at like, you know, 6am and we stay up until midnight and we do everything that we can in, in the waking hours.
B
But thank you. Here's my gifts. I'm glad you had fun. I got this, I got this. I got some jelly jam. I got a butterfly. I got. Jim has been feeling sorry for me. I got some perfume. And then she brought back your dad. This beautiful blanket back here that was made by, you said an old lady.
A
Giant shrimp.
C
The woman who sold it to us said that it was made by hand by like Irish women that kind of live in this little village or whatever out of like the sheep wool that they, you know, have on their farm. Yeah, I don't know. I. Ireland is very.
B
Did you just different. Did you just burp? Oh, okay.
C
I moved in my chair. It's very different. Like there's a lot of countryside. The influence of Western culture seems to not exist very much there. Like you don't see. I think I maybe saw one McDonald's. Maybe like that was it.
B
So you missed America's luxuries.
C
I mean, yeah, when you go to Europe, there's no ac, like, there's no ice. There are things here that like, I love. So when you go to Europe, it's always kind of like, oh, yeah, they don't have air conditioning. But like the, the influence isn't there. Like the advertisements on billboards are like normal looking women who have been un. Airbrushed there. There aren't. No, I'm serious. Like, there aren't. You don't see like Gucci and Prada and like anywhere. And we were in big cities. We're in like Dublin and Galway and all these places and it's like kind of the American influence isn't there? Which was interesting, kind of refreshing. I don't know, it's just a different, different way of life. Potatoes everywhere though. Every restaurant was a potato of some kind. Of some kind.
B
I would have liked that.
C
Well, yeah, it was interesting.
A
I'm glad you had a good trip. That's a great story. Welcome back to the show. Moving on, our fourth topic, Trump loses bigly this week. This week, Trump's planned 1.776 billion dollar anti weaponization fund seems to be dead in the water, with both Republicans and Democrats expressing concerns that Trump planned to use this money to pay off his allies, including the 1600 criminals who violently tried to overthrow the United states government. On January 6, a federal judge suspended the administration for proceeding with the fund for at least two weeks, scheduling a June 12 hearing to hear arguments. And in a shocking turn of events, little Todd Blanche testified before Congress. We are not moving forward with the fund, period. But there's a catch. That was my Todd Blanche. Thank you. While Trump might not be getting the budget to pay his personal militia, him and his family are still getting legal immunity from any IRS audits remaining in full force here, which is going to allow the Trump family to avoid paying hundreds of millions of owed tax dollars to the United States. Mom, do you think after this hearing on the 12th, that a judge is going to let this fund move forward?
B
No, I think it will not. I think it's done. I. I told you that when we discussed it back on another podcast. Way too many things against it. It's not going to go forward. No.
A
Haley, do you think it's done?
C
Yeah, I'd like to think so. I. But I don't know. Like, every. Everything goes at this point, like, he's doing all kinds of criminal. Nothing's happening to him.
A
Yeah, the insider trading stuff to me is insane. That no one is doing anything about that. It's just right out in the open. He's literally doing it right out in the open.
B
It's all.
C
It's all insane. Like, the, The Epstein files exist. We have names. We're prosecuting. No one where it's just, like, done. He's insider trading. His whole family is. They're asking to never be investigated again. I don't want to pay taxes. Like, it's all criminal activity. When are we going to do something about it? Who is going to do something about it?
B
You and I can't. Yeah. Who will do it? Who will do it?
A
The United States government is, in my opinion, completely ineffective. They're worthless. No one's doing anything. Nobody's even really talking about the insider trading stuff except the news sometimes when, like, another big trade happens or, like, I'm sure it will get brought back up in the news cycle around the UFC next weekend because he insider traded the company that owns the ufc, right? He bought a bunch of shares of tko and then he's like, now we're gonna have UFC at the White House. That's insider trading.
C
Like, it's absolutely ludicrous. Remember how pissed, like you got pissed about Bill Clinton and that whole scandal? This is much bigger than that.
B
I know. I do think all politicians do this. I'm not saying this. That, like.
C
No, they. They don't. And they've never gotten away with it.
B
Yes, they have. They haven't just done it out in the open the way he's doing it. And it's not.
C
No one has ever gotten away with insider trading, Nancy. No president ever.
B
Nancy Pelosi, certainly, and her husband.
A
And I think a lot of people in Congress and the Senate definitely have done this.
C
Name a president that has gotten away with literally fucking anything like this and
A
not at this scale. The scale that he's doing it at. We've never seen anything close to it. Billions of dollars made more money in
C
one year as president than in his entire lifetime as a businessman.
A
And now all that insider trading money, guess what? He ain't got to pay no taxes on it. That's the. The second piece of this is like he's giving up the $1.8 billion. But that clause that says you can never audit me or my family, that's in place still. Do you think that's fair?
B
Mom, I didn't think it was in place. I thought the whole deal was going out the window.
A
No.
B
Okay.
A
Do you think that's fair?
B
No, it's not.
C
So when are you gonna say Donald Trump? When are you gonna say it?
B
We talked about that same thing when Biden, on the last 40 minutes of his presidency, pardoned everyone in his family. Nobody gives Hunter, including.
C
Right, right, right. Put them all in jail. I don't care. I don't like them and I put them in jail. I don't give a. But when are you going to acknowledge that Donald Trump is worse than Joe Biden and does not deserve to be our president?
B
No, he is still my president, but it's out in the open. I'm seeing more things I don't like.
C
So you're okay with a criminal being your president? That is what you just said.
B
He's not a criminal.
C
Is insider trading criminal activity? Yes, he's a criminal. And you're okay with that right now?
B
He's still my president.
A
But wait a minute.
B
Why?
A
You said insider trading. You do view it as a crime and you agree that he's doing it, right?
C
Just fucking let it go.
B
That's what you're telling me.
C
You know that that's the truth. It's okay to fucking say you don't like Donald Trump.
B
Dan and I have talked about that before in markets. Your father was a natural gas, oil, weather trader. Markets change day to day. No matter what people say, what people do, whether there's a war, whether it's
C
not troll the market, he's controlling it.
A
He literally. We talked about this on this show when he was like, great time to buy a Dell computer and like, listed their stock symbol in his tweet. Or it might not have been Dell something something. Maybe it was Black Rock. I don't remember what it was. He tweeted out, great time to buy this stock with the stock symbol. He had bought $100 million of that stock or whatever right. The day prior. That's insider trading.
B
There's also people that do that for a living that say, buy this today.
A
They're not the President of the United States.
C
You cannot insider trade as the president. He is fucking you over.
B
You don't have to listen to him. You don't have to listen to the man on the money market thing that says buy this or that either.
A
You're not saying that.
C
You are saying that it is okay that he is partaking in criminal activity. And you're okay with that because he's a criminal.
B
He's not a criminal.
C
He is a criminal.
B
To that. He can say anything he wants. Buy, sell, trade, whatever. If you can't and you do it, there you go.
A
No, he can't. He's the president. He cannot do that. That's illegal.
C
That's what insider trading is.
A
He's affecting the markets even beyond that. He has bought massive amounts of money in oil. Then he goes to war with Iran. That can't. That's illegal. You can't buy a commodity and then launch a war to drive the price of that commodity up. Don't you think a president has responsibility to the protection of the citizens of the country over personal financial gain?
B
Yes, I do.
A
Okay, well, he's gotten multiple Americans killed in that war, only for his financial gain. That's the only reason he's doing it.
B
No, I, I disagree with that, but.
A
Okay, let's move on. Here's another thing you're not gonna like about Trump. This week, Trump fell asleep again on camera. On June 4, Trump held a press conference in the Oval Office discussing Iran, peace negotiations, Israel and Lebanon, and then a UFC structure he nicknamed the Claw. Over the course of the meeting, Trump nodded out several times, and during one of his naps, he is shown farting loudly to the dis man standing directly behind him. The timing of the snap was particularly awkward because Secretary of State Marco Rubio had just appeared before the Senate, where he told Representative Ted Lou during. Or. Sorry. Before the House, where he told Representative Ted Lou during a House hearing the day before that he had, quote, never seen Trump fall asleep. And then Ted Lieu played a clip of Rubio himself talking while Trump is sitting next to him, dead fucking asleep. This week's incident came after Trump had not been seen publicly for approximately seven days, triggering significant health speculation. When he did reappear, it was on a podcast where viewers noticed a visibly swollen right eye alongside his recurring swollen right hand. Trump spent three hours at Walter Reed in late May, but released no information on what the visit was for. Mom, do you think he was asleep in this meeting?
B
Possibly. I did see that. We watched it on Possibly.
A
Wait, so what do you think it is? If he's not asleep, what do you think it was?
B
He just nodded off. He's tired. He's up all night.
A
That's asleep. Okay, so I'm just. I want to get this very clear. Do you think he was asleep in this meeting?
B
Possibly.
A
You're saying possibly. What is the other possibility?
B
That he was not asleep.
A
But what is he doing then?
B
Just like.
A
Okay, look, he's clearly unconscious, slumped over in a chair, and he even jolts awake sometimes.
B
Am I asleep?
A
Well, he wasn't wearing a Luck of the Irish baseball cap, so I don't know.
B
Okay. Donald Trump visited Walter Reed National Military Medical center for what the White House described as a routine preventative medical and dental checkup. The visit included standard exams and lab testing.
A
Huh.
B
So those were, like, some preventative things and, like, he was gone out of the spotlight for how many days? Five or six. And y' all are going crazy. He.
A
Because he's not telling the truth. He's been to the hospital four times in the last 16 months.
B
Okay.
A
Do you think that's a routine physical?
B
Four times in the last 16 months? No.
A
Okay, so we talked about that. He's got a health problem, clearly.
B
I. Yeah, I think with, you know, the ankles, the cankles and all that. He's probably getting some kind of infusions, like we've said. On his hands. We've seen bruises to help him get better.
A
Look, we don't know what the issue is. We have. The facts we have are he looks physically fucked up. He's falling asleep constantly on camera.
C
He's slurring his speech. He can't even compose sentences. His brain capacity is clearly, like, not 100%.
A
We don't. We don't know about the slurring, whatever. He does do that, but that isn't necessarily indicative of that could just be him getting old Biden style. Listen, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. He has gone to the hospital four times. He looks like he's constantly falling asleep. You think he still medically is in good health to run the country?
B
He is still upright and walking and has people around him. For now, yes. In regard to making complete sentences, he made sentences clear enough to get that reporter and stand up and say, I'm done.
A
Huh? Why would he have gone to the hospital four times in 16 months?
B
Like I said, I believe we don't know. It's not my body. It's his body with the thing going on with his legs. Maybe he's getting some type of an infusion through his hand, through somewhere in his body to make him better. That's my. That's my guess.
A
Why do you think they aren't telling us what's going on?
B
Because it's not that big of a deal to them right now. I guess to the people around him,
A
it's because they're lying to you. They're trying to make you think he's fine. He's very clearly not. Just the fact that he's falling asleep on camera in basically every meeting he has now, that doesn't give you some cause for alarm?
B
Well, the meetings he has are during the days. He's up all night. We know this. He's tweeting out all kinds of stuff every night. So if he doesn't sleep at night, he's gonna sleep during the day a bit, I guess.
A
But why is he tweeting out all this for this?
B
It's not good.
A
The last thing he tweeted out was an AI video saying, everybody loves Trump. Did you see that?
B
No.
A
It's an AI song and an AI video of him going around the world, like, eating ice cream. And. And it says, everybody loves Trump. That's his important work that he's got to be doing at 3am okay?
C
He's lost his mind and he's dying. He's what, 80? Yeah, he's dying.
A
All right. No more on that one, I guess. Finally, we come to our last topic. Trump is afraid of influencers. This week, the White House added a new category to its media bias website called Leftist Influencers, specifically targeting independent journalists and online commentators like David Pakman, Alyssa Vega, Andrew Feinberg, Eric Garcia, Nancy Cordes, Brian Tyler Cohen, and Max Burns, all journalists who have simply reported on Trump's open corruption. This comes in the same week that CBS fired longtime 60 Minutes news anchor Scott Pelley for speaking out against Barry Weiss. The Ellison family installed head of CBS News, who has done significant damage to the credibility of the news department by withholding news pieces and removing staff who are not Trump loyalists. Mom, do you think our tax money should be spent to make websites targeting YouTubers?
C
Hang on. Also, might I add, I'm pretty sure your boy Hassan Piker made that list.
B
I was wondering that. That was going to be my first question. I hope.
C
I'm pretty sure he did.
B
I hope not.
C
Look, Google it really quick. I swear to God, he better not
B
put him in the clinker.
C
He's going after your boy.
B
He's not going down. He better he subpoena. He had a subpoena out for him. I do know that, but I don't think he's been called in, has he?
A
No.
B
We'll have to go protest. Our boy is not going in the clinker.
C
So wait, who's more important, Donald Trump or Hassan Piker?
B
That says no, that he was not on the list. Good. Right, now we like Hassan Piker. Pretty good.
A
Well, then this thing says the White House has now listed Hassan Piker on their website under left wing lunacy media offenders. So maybe.
B
Gosh, no, no, no.
C
Yeah, so.
B
So.
C
So who are you going with?
B
I'm going with Hassan Piker on that one.
A
Okay, okay. But the question was, do you think it's a good use of taxpayer money to have somebody building out these websites that are attacking YouTubers?
B
No, I don't.
A
No. Do you think reporters who report on what Trump is doing should be fired from their job like Scott Pelley?
B
Absolutely not.
A
So you're against it?
B
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
C
Okay, so when are you just going to say that Donald Trump is ridiculous?
B
He's doing ridiculous things? A few. Now my eyes are being opened. Okay. But he's still my president.
A
I. But that's the. That to me, is the disconnect. Every week now for the past maybe month or so, we. I think we've made some good ground by just presenting facts to you about what Donald Trump is doing and asking you questions about why you think he might be doing these things, showing you stuff about his health, declining you. You don't like the war in Iran. You don't like that he subpoenaed Hassan Piker. You don't like that he's killing all the animals, including your beloved Monar butterflies. You don't like that his family is Buying a nuclear safety bunker in an island in quotes that they discovered by walking barefoot. You don't like all the insider trading. You don't like the UFC at the White House. There's so many things. I'm probably leaving some off the list.
C
He's kicking people off Wick right now, which is basically like mothers and children.
A
I don't think mom cares about that.
C
You don't care about food assistance for kids that need it. You were a teacher. You saw this. And so you know that people need wic.
B
You guys put words in my mouth every week.
C
Yeah, but you know. You know that. And they. They have cut. I think it's like 400, 000 people off WIC.
B
It's terrible.
C
Yeah. So. So at what point can you. I need to bring. Hey, every.
B
Every week, you bring topics that are always against him. Let me bring a few that are for him, and maybe we can talk about those.
A
I will.
B
Next. Wait. Okay.
A
Bring whatever topics you ever want. You're always free to do that.
B
I know. You've told me that.
A
I'm just saying that the. The things mounting up against him in your mind seem to be significant. The volume of them is increasing every week, and the longer this war in Iran goes on, it seems like the less patience you have with that. And so what me and Haley are asking is. Is effectively like, there's so much of this stacked up against him, but you still keep saying he's my president, and you wear the Trump hat and stuff, but he's doing all these things that you hate that are against your personal interests and against what you think is in the best interests of the American people. And so at what point does it. Like, it's got a snap for you at some point that it's okay, a
B
little bit more time. I need some more time to think through this all.
A
All right. You have as much time as you want.
C
I also want to say, you know that Pride month has started, right? You know it's Pride.
B
Yes.
C
The White House has said nothing about pride. Not a singular thing. Like, during Obama era, they lit the White House up, like, in rainbow colors. Donald Trump doesn't give a. In fact, they're, like, you know, trying to counteract, like, anything that's LGBTQ plus. How do you feel about that?
B
I didn't know anything about that. That they haven't done anything.
C
Have you seen anything on the White House official about it being Pride?
B
I don't look at White House official every day.
C
It's just not being celebrated.
B
Okay.
C
How do you Feel about it.
B
Give it time. Let's see.
C
There isn't time. It's Pride Month right now. Yeah, it's Pride Month right now.
A
And this is, this is in a long list of things like this. Like he tried to get rid of Martin Luther King Day as an official holiday. He, you know, took down those plaques that talked about slavery. They, they are systematically trying to dismantle any government involvement or acknowledgment of any marginalized community in America.
B
I'm gonna Google, I'm gonna look tonight for stuff, Pride, stuff at the White House.
C
There isn't any.
A
Yeah, you're not gonna find it. I'm just reminding you again that you are against basically everything that we ever talk about that Trump does. But you're still fighting for Trump.
B
Lately, yes.
A
Okay, yeah, lately, fine, whatever. But it's only lately because this has been a mounting kind of like, trudge through all this, right? And every week there seems to be at least one or two new things. Like Bill Pulte this week, throwing that guy on the, the pile as the, the head of our national intelligence community. He has no clearance. He has never worked in national intelligence. He is a real estate investor who is just going to do whatever Trump wants. Throwing that guy onto the pile. Throwing the fact that he fell asleep again, the fact that we're in the 15th week of the war in Iran, the fact that his family's trying to buy this fucking island from a government so that they could survive the nuclear.
B
Like I said, let me bring a few things. Maybe next week if I can find some things.
C
Also, I'm pretty sure we just had like three mass shootings back to back in the span of like a five day period. It's nowhere even mentioned by the presidency. It didn't even make the news. So, like, notion that you think he cares about the American people, he simply does not.
A
He said as much. We talked about that on this show where he's like, I'm not thinking about the financial burden of any American.
C
Remember, he doesn't care. I just saw a thing on like CNN or something where it said groceries prior to Donald Trump, like, for a basket of like X, Y and Z was $45. Today it's 72. So, like, we are, we are hitting a time where people who need food assistance aren't getting it and people who, who didn't even need it now, like, can't afford groceries. So it's like there are a lot more people now who are food insecure. What are we supposed to do about that? The government is stealing money from us to fund fucking ice and a war in Iran and a ballroom and a UFC ring. But, like, we can't eat. We don't have health care. At what point do you say enough is enough? And this is not my fucking president. He is literally fucking stealing from us and starving us daily.
B
I want.
C
What is the ceiling for you?
B
I want to see us get out of the war to make our economy better, to get going in that direction first.
C
So you at least admit that the economy is in the shitter because of a war that he created.
B
I think our economy needs a lot of help right now.
C
And he ain't doing it because he's too busy in Albania.
B
Okay. Okay.
A
All right. Mom has hit her limit. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for being here, Haley. From around the world, the International.
C
I'm not here every week, I take a vacation. From time to time, I'm allowed to do that.
A
I know. I'm just giving you.
C
No, thanks for coming back.
A
I'm. I'm just giving you. I am glad that you had a good trip.
B
That.
A
The thing with the giant shrimp, like, sounds phenomenal. Okay, mom, thank you for joining us. I love you for doing this. We are very close here. I feel like progress has really been made in this past month or two, and we're going to continue that direction. Haley, I love you. Thank you for joining us from. Fresh from the emerald aisle.
B
Fresh from kissing the Blarney Stone. I love you, Haley.
A
I didn't.
C
You didn't, so. Oh, Jesus Christ. The Blarney Castle. It's really beautiful. It has all of these, like, poisonous gardens around. It's really cool. Whatever. So we go into the castle, and you have to walk, like, up some steps to get to the tippy top to kiss the Blarney Stone. As you know, I am highly claustrophobic. I can't even have an mri. So we step into this little, you know, kind of like a cave area, and already I'm starting to kind of panic and, like, I don't know. I don't know. And as I turn the corner, you have to, like, literally, a winding turret up to the top of the castle where your shoulders are touching the sides. I said this. I had to get right out. So I did not. I did not. I did not hit the stone. But, you know, like, they got video and. And up there. But I have learned my limits as an adult. I don't know. Like, the. The claustrophobia hit me.
A
Interesting.
C
Maybe, like, two or three years ago, where I have, like, literal panic attacks and can't breathe. And so I have hit, like, this wall where I wanted to go scuba diving and, like, you know, do all these things that require, like, tight spaces. I have realized I can never do those things.
A
Interesting. When I was going through cancer, I had to get MRIs all the time. I kind of liked them. I go to sleep.
C
I can't. I can't even get in there.
A
Yeah. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us. I will be back. Are you guys going to join me for the live?
B
I don't think I can. Haley, you got to do it. Haley, you gotta do it this time. Haley.
A
I guess it's just gonna be fine.
C
Fine. I'll do it. One o'. Clock. Eight. Eight o'.
A
Clock. No, I'm gonna do it at 4:00pm PST. It'll be 6:00pm Your time. Please join me here. We have to move the. The hours up a little bit to accommodate my other show called Game of Roses. We are, of course, in Love Island, Season 8.
C
Jesus Christ. My whole bakery is talking about Love Island.
B
I gotta go.
C
I was like. And they said something about a. And I was like, wait, do you want to hear a song about a
A
bombshell you played on my song? What'd they say? Did they like it?
C
They were laughing, but yeah, I mean, like, kind of. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
It seems appropriate for. For the show.
A
I love both of you as well. Join us, me and my sister, tonight, 4pm PST. That is 6pm Central. That is 7pm Eastern, wherever you may be. We'll be here on YouTube. Thanks for joining us.
B
Bye.
Episode: "Trump Falls Asleep Again And Storms Out Of An Interview"
Date: June 7, 2026
Host: The Necessary Conversation (Family: Host ‘A’, Mom ‘B’, Haley ‘C’)
This week, the family convenes in rare full formation to unpack a storm of post-election political chaos, focusing on Donald Trump’s ongoing divisive influence, his controversial business and political maneuvers, the state of American democracy, and the personal impact on their relationships. Through a blend of heated debate, family therapy, and biting satire, they cover Trump's attempts to buy a military island, his public health incidents, his adversarial relationship with the press, escalating war in Iran, alarming Cabinet appointments, and more. The tone swings from frustration to dark humor, all underpinning a persistent attempt to force “the necessary conversation” about America’s direction.
The podcast is candid, profane, and often irreverent, mixing gallows humor with sincere concern. The family dynamic is authentic and relatable, oscillating between pointed debate and affectionate teasing. The speakers don’t shy from hard truths or from calling each other out, making it accessible and emotionally resonant for listeners weathering similar family political divides.
This episode of The Necessary Conversation exemplifies why “family therapy through politics” can be as exasperating as it is essential. The hosts grapple with the surreal, turbulent realities of American governance under Trump, laying bare the personal reckonings that animate so much of the national discourse. Through their contradictory allegiances, emotional reckonings, and sardonic humor, they create a space for critical questioning and, perhaps, eventual change.
For those who missed it:
You’ll get up to speed not only on Trump’s latest scandals, but also on the toll such politics take at the kitchen table—and perhaps, a little inspiration to ask the necessary questions in your own circle.