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In the Aftermath of the 2024 election, America is even more divided than before. Half the country fears the end of democracy, and the other half welcomes it as America inches toward the brink of authoritarian rule. Now more than ever, we must force ourselves to have the necessary conversation. Welcome to the Necessary Conversation. I'm Chad Kolchen. With me today is my mom and my sister. As you can see, we're all back in our homes after a long. I don't know how long I was there with you in Oklahoma trying to help you with dad and stuff. 10 days or something like that. Haley came a couple of times during it. But we're all back where we live now. Mom, do you want to give a brief update about dad?
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Sure. We're out of the rehab hospital. We're back home. He's recuperating and resting here. I have some excellent care for him. And between all of us, we're going to get him stronger. I have some other agencies like home health care, people like that coming in for pt, ot. And he's resting and we're going to get him stronger and then hopefully get him back on the show when he's 100%.
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Yeah. Fingers crossed. You had a diddy.
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B
Yes. Well, I feel like I've been on a third world planet for a while. So I'm trying to come back to the real world and. And the planet that we live.
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C
You mean an alternate universe? Not a third world?
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B
Wherever. Yeah. Wherever I've been, I've been.
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C
Alternate universe.
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B
I've been in crazy. Yeah, I've been in crazy town, let's just call it that. My brain is trying to function back to where I need to be to make him good and to have people help us to make him good. And then me continue on. My goodness. And it's been hard. I do believe this weekend is Memorial Day weekend. Is this correct? Yes, tomorrow is. Tomorrow is Memorial Day. So this is the weekend of where we honor our military soldiers who have died in the line of duty and we give them our respect on this weekend. And they are the ditties of my day.
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Okay, I have some ditties, too. I have a couple of them. Let's start out with Hassan Piker. These are not full blown topics. We have six full blown topics we're going to get to. But these two little things I thought were very interesting specifically to our show because these two diddies involve our show. So the first one's Hasan Piker. He got subpoenaed by Trump. Him and the Code Pink founder, medea Benjamin, as part of this big federal investigation into possible violations of US Cuba sanctions. So Trump's prosecutors can pursue criminal charges, although none have been announced at this point. And a bunch of civil liberties advocates are saying this obviously violates First Amendment rights, that they're going after activists and political commentators and stuff like that. And the subpoena comes because Hassan Piker went down to Cuba with code Pink and I want to say about 650 other people to try and raise awareness for what is going on in Cuba, which is a power grid crisis, financial crisis, like it's not in good shape. So, Mom, I want to ask you, Trump is now trying to at the very least legally threaten, if not at some point outright bring charges against Hasan Piker. How do you feel about that?
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I also want to say they took medical aid for like fucking children, you know, who were not getting what they needed. So it wasn't just like to raise awareness. They were actually taking medical supplies to people who had none.
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B
Yeah, they're not going to put my boy in the clinker. That's not right. That's not right.
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A
Okay. If they.
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He's part of our family. They're not going to put him in the clinker. And right there we've got his shirt. Haley's got one on.
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C
Yeah. Hassan Piker.
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B
We want him to know that we are backing him. Now. Why would they. It's not.
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A
Hang on a minute.
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B
It's a subpoena, Is it a subpoena?
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Yeah.
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Why would they do it to him and not those other 600 people?
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C
Well, they're going after him. And then the main lady, Pink, the
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leader of the group that put it all together. Yeah, but you're effectively here. You are siding with Hassan Piker against Donald Trump.
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C
Yes. Yes, yes. Oh, my God, yes.
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I like him.
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C
We love.
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B
I like him.
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This is unreal.
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B
Even though he might have different points and different views, I can still like him. And I don't want our son in the clinker.
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C
The world order, our son, the golden child is coming through. Holy.
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This is unbelievable. Okay, well, a great note to start today's show off on. Let's see if we can give you another one. Also this week, my other diddy, Candace Owens, who you like to some degree, you like her theories on Charlie Kirk at the very least, right?
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B
I listened to her stuff, yes.
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A
She had a very special guest named Hunter Biden, who you don't like.
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B
I do not. Not much.
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Okay, let's see if we can change your mind. I have a Clip. I'm gonna play this clip is 1 minute and 40 seconds long. It's from. It's an excerpt from his appearance on her show. I'm gonna play it for you right now. Are you ready?
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B
Ready.
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You know, there's this incredible show. I really want to meet them one day. You've probably. I don't know if you've listened it to. It's called the Necessary Conversation. Have you listened to that? Incredible. It's a brother and a sister who are progressives. One lives in LA and like, one lives in Austin or something like that, and she runs a bakery. This sister and a mom and dad, and they are ultra maga. And I think they're like, in, you know, Missouri somewhere. And I mean, like, don't take their caps off. Trump literally can do no wrong. He's playing 4D chess on the Epstein thing. The, you know, I know he said no war in Iran, but, you know, he must have a reason for it. And you can't convince, like, literally that. But they have this conversation, and they have real. They have issues with each other. Like, the daughter gets really mad at the dad. Like, dad, you were a jerk to us when we were kids. You made me. But then she has this conversation with her mom, who loves animals and, like, taught her about empathy. And they would adopt all, you know, these animals, and they would. And you find out, like, her dad taught, you know, or coached all of their little league games, and she was a softball player. And if a kid couldn't, like, afford the uniform, dad would quietly go out. And by the. And he's awful on this thing, by the way. Like, he's. In terms of the way that he speaks and it speaks to them, and he's, like, tough, and I don't get. I don't give a shit. And, you know, drop a bomb on him kind of, you know, but it's so informative.
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So there you go. Mom, Hunter Biden likes you. How does that make you feel?
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I'm glad he likes me. I don't care for him much. And I would ask him, was it your cocaine in the White House?
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A
But I should have stopped this on piker.
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C
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, maybe, you know how you talk to Peppermint? So prior to talking to Peppermint, your outlook on trans people, I think, was very different. And it kind of opened your eyes and opened your mind. So maybe talking to Hunter Biden, getting to know him a little bit better, maybe it would do the same.
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B
Well, Mr. Hunter Biden needs to get all the facts Correct. I do not live in. Where did he say? Arkansas? Missouri? You do not have a bakery in Austin.
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C
Semantics. Like, whatever.
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Yeah.
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But nonetheless, huge.
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C
No, like, he's watching what we're doing, and part of the. You didn't show the rest of the clip, but he goes into how Donald Trump and, like, this whole MAGA regime is. Is tearing families apart. And so he acknowledges that this is, in fact, a necessary conversation. And, like, watching the country kind of divide over this is. Is. It's in our faces and, and, and everybody's seeing it. So, like, we're having this discussion. We're coming back together as a family, but he's acknowledging that, like, Donald Trump has ripped families apart from. And I think that that's why. I think what we're doing is imperative because it's showing people that, like, your, Your mind has been opened through this podcast. Essentially, it feels like we're. We're trying to pull you out of something that. That is destroying parts of this country.
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And I think, yeah, I think it's cool that he did acknowledge us. I would never in my wildest dreams would, I think, you know, his dad was the president and he was the son of the president that he would even mention us.
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You know, I mean, take it one step further. You think he's told Joe Biden about it? You think Joe Biden has watched the show? Maybe. Probably. Who knows about that?
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B
Well, I could ask him a few questions, too. Why'd you pardon your kids on the very last day that you were in the presidency? On the last one hour?
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Why is Donald Trump trying to evade taxes by permanently saying, you can't come after me?
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Well, that's going to be a topic. So let's get into our topics. I just, I wanted to show you that clip just to show you that there are. Are people on the left, obviously. Hassan Piker, who you've claimed as a son, at this point, he's already.
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He's the golden child of this family.
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I know he's the favorite child.
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C
So. So is he coming to Thanksgiving or what? Is this the formal invite?
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I hope so. That would be wonderful.
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We'll see.
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In jail. Don't put him in the clink.
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Are we going to protest? Are we going to go protest?
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B
I would protest. I would protest that, yes.
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Okay. All right. Ground has been gained. Let's move on to our first topic, Trump the insider trader. This week, we learned that President Trump made over 3, 700 stock trades in just the first three months of 2026, totaling somewhere between $220 million and $750 million. That's more than 40 trades per market day. Among buys were shares in Nvidia, Oracle, amd, Palantir, Amazon, Microsoft and Apple. Companies who are directly affected by his policy and his public discussion of those companies. For example, Trump bought between 500,000 and a million in Nvidia stock just one week before he approved the sale of Nvidia chips to China, sending the stock up. He bought millions in Oracle stock right as he was helping the company secure the TikTok deal. He bought AMD shares days before he authorized AMD to sell chips to Chinese customers. And. And he bought $530,000 in Palantir stock across at least seven purchases in March, then went on Truth Social in April and literally posted the company's stock ticker symbol writing, palantir Technologies has proven to have great war fighting capabilities and equipment. Just ask our enemies. The first time a sitting president has ever endorsed a specific stock by its ticker symbol, the stock immediately reversed a 16% free fall, recovering billions in market value within minutes. Mom, do you think what Trump is doing is insider trading?
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Probably. And that was the number one topic that on my piece of paper. I don't know what to say. Right. There it is. I have nothing down on, on, number
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one, you can say it out loud. You can say, donald Trump is a fucking crook.
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Yeah, this is criminal behavior.
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B
But so were the other people that did the same thing. I know he's doing it in greater number.
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C
Right. And so are the other. But.
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And I thought, guess what? Here's what I thought. After Pelosi and the husband and all that they, they were doing some of this.
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C
Yeah.
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I thought they were going to get the law made where people can't do this, but now they have. Not the people.
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That's insane. That law will never be made. The people who have to make that law are all doing this.
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They're insider trading because, oh, we only
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make $200,000 a year. I need to be able to trade. I can't feed my family.
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That's what's happening.
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Mike Johnson said that. Literally. Well, we only, you know, if you're in the Senate, you only make about $200,000 a year. You've got to be on your hand.
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Well, darn, darn politicians are corrupt, huh?
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Including Donald Trump. So this is a fucking, like, this is a slap in the face to all American people. He is out in the open doing criminal trading. That's activity that, like, you shouldn't be able to do. You go to prison for that. Martha Stewart went to jail for like $45,000 or some shit.
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Yeah.
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She's robbing us blind.
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Yeah. I don't understand that. They made her go to jail. Pelosi's not go to jail. And now Trump's getting by with it. Just say that's a little X right there. Not good.
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C
A little.
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Little X, Mom. This man has made more money in the span of this year and a half as president than he has made in all prior years combined in his life.
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I know y'.
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All. And he's doing it illegally from insider trading. That is a prison sentence.
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Y' all freak out over the amount. Which $0.01 is the amount? Whether you do billions or $0.01.
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Okay, so he belongs in jail.
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They need to make a law to put these people in jail for sure. If that's.
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There is one.
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There is one.
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You cannot do insider trading. That is illegal. You go to jail for it. Like Haley said, Martha Stewart has already done that.
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C
She did her time. Does Donald Trump deserve to go to jail?
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Why didn't they do it with Pelosi's family?
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They should also be there. Does Donald Trump deserve to be in jail over that?
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Probably. Yes. That's not.
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Lock him up. So lock him up. Get him out of the White House. Yeah, lock him up.
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Just take. Take this into account, Mom.
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I am.
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We're in week 12 of the Iran war. Now, you predicted this week, which is
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very close to being done. What I've been reading. Very close.
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It's not.
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They put out that statement saying we almost have a deal in place. Guess what's not on the. The talking points for that deal. Anything about nuclear weapons. The deal is just to reopen, or at least the points that came out to reopen the straits. So basically to take things back to where they were the day before he started the war.
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B
Right, Right.
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Reopening the strait is not a victory. That's just putting things back the way they used to be. Before he started the war, the straight was open.
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That will greatly help the economy in so many ways.
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But you don't understand. He's made this situation. Now he's going to try to claim a victory. Oh, we opened the strait. Negotiations went well. It's like that was already how it was before you did this. You dumb.
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Let's see. Give it a little bit more time. It's almost over, I do believe.
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Okay, but back to the insider trading thing. He has made 3, 700 trades over basically the course of the. A little longer period than the war itself. But like While we're at war with Iran, this is doing 40 trades a day.
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Right.
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And then he's going out on TV and saying, Buy Dell computers because he just bought $500,000 worth of Dell stock. Their stock goes up, makes a billion dollars, and then dumps the stock.
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Right.
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That belongs in prison.
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That. That is insider trading, I do believe.
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Okay.
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He belongs in prison.
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Okay, go on.
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So let me ask you this. How does Trump engaging in insider trading help America?
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It's not helping America. He's helping himself.
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C
Yes.
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Okay. So did the show.
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C
Yes.
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So did the Pelosi.
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Yes, of course.
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We don't like them either.
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You're right. You're right. And he's part of that group. He is so. Group of people.
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Yes. He's just as corrupt as Nancy Pelosi is.
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Which was the senator. I get the two fouled up. AOC and Elon. I get them fouled up. The one that had the winery in California. That was really not a winery.
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I don't know about any of this. I don't know what you're talking about. That's fine. I'll grant you everything you're saying all of these politicians are corrupt. So is Trump. Say it.
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That is. Say Trump is corrupt in insider trading. That is corrupt.
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Is.
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Say Donald Trump is corrupt. I want to hear it.
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Not saying it. I'm saying that insider trading.
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That is corrupt.
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C
Isn't that enough for you to. To want him out of the White House?
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Not yet. Not yet. Let's see. I want to see this war end and see how he does it.
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I. I don't understand. He is. This is criminal activity. You're admitting it. And that's not enough for you to say, no, I don't want him in the White House anymore.
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Remember the two big things I have said? That he will no longer be my president if. What are those? Have y' all listened to me on that?
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C
He's a lying fucking bastard.
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He pardons Maxwell, and if any charges are brought against him for sexual assault,
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no charges can be brought against him. The Supreme Court ruled early in this presidency, or right before it, actually, that a sitting president basically is immune from any kind of criminal prosecution as long as they're doing it in presidential ways or whatever the. The. The wording of it was. And so, remember, he was convicted and found guilty on 34 felony counts of criminal finance fraud. That. And there was never a sentencing because the Supreme Court made that ruling. It just evaporated. He was already found guilty of federal crimes. Evaporated. So now he can do whatever he wants and there will who's going to prosecute him. Todd Blanche is literally his defense attorney.
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B
Right.
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During all that shit. And now he's the head of the doj. He's never going to bring charges against him.
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This is the most corrupt government we have ever had historically in the United States of America.
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Correct.
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If, if he pardons Maxwell, that'll be it.
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Okay, well, let's see if this is it. We're going to move on to topic number two. Trump steals $1.8 billion in taxpayer money. This week, the Justice Department, led by Trump's personal criminal defense attorney, Todd Blanche, announced a settlement with Trump to drop his $10 billion lawsuit against his own IRS. Trump agreed to drop that lawsuit in exchange for Creating a law 1.8 approximately billion dollar anti weaponization fund to compensate people who claim they were victims of lawfare under previous administrations. The fund, consisting entirely of our taxpayer money, will likely be used by Trump to enrich his political allies and possibly pay a personal militia in the nearly 1600 January 6th rioters that Trump already pardoned. Two police officers who defended the Capitol on January 6th have already filed a federal lawsuit to block the fund, calling it, quote, a taxpayer funded slush fund to finance the insurrect and paramilitary groups that commit violence in his name. About 40 pardoned January 6th writers have been rearrested, charged or sentenced for crimes unrelated to January 6, including child sexual assault, production of child pornography, rape, conspiracy to commit murder of FBI agents, kidnapping, sexual assault, aggravated robbery, reckless homicide, illegal firearms possession, domestic violence by strangulation, and drug trafficking. Mom, do you think the January 6th rioters should be getting our money?
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I think they should be compensated because of what happened to them and they were put in prison unjustly. But let me go one step back. Why? Why do we have this big slush fund? More. More or less. Why was this given to Trump? Trump sued the IRS over the leak of his taxes. If the leak of his taxes would have never occurred, this big fund would have not been given to him. The Justice Department made the deal with him because they messed up in the
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beginning by leaking his taxes, not the Justice Department. Todd Blanche, his personal lawyer.
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B
Well, what I read was the Justice Department made the deal.
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A
Yes. Todd Blanche is the head of the Justice Department now. That's Donald Trump's personal. So when Donald Trump, for example, would get in any kind of troubles, I mean, it used to be Michael Cohen. He was his fixer for a while. Todd Blanche became that guy. When he would get in legal trouble, he would just be like, make it go away. I don't care. Do whatever the fuck you have to do. Dark dealings, you know, whatever he had to do. Now that guy is the head of the only organization that could bring charges against Trump. So this whole thing is orchestrated. I would guess Stephen Miller is in there telling him, you can do this. Sue your own IRS for $10 billion of taxpayer money. Then we'll settle for some amount. That slush fund. Now, he's going to use it to enrich his political allies and to just pay grunt soldiers in these 1600 people that have been pardoned. If he wants to. If he wants to split it out evenly, it's over a million dollars for each one of them. That he could just be like, here you go. Show up when I go into my bunker and I need some protection. Come fight for me.
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B
Yeah. I've also read it's not a done deal. There are so many lawsuits going against it in all ways. It may not come out the way that you guys are saying. We have to give this one a little bit of time. But I think in the beginning, they shouldn't have leaked his taxes. And then none of this maybe would have.
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Think about this. Think about if somebody leaks your taxes, can you sue the IRS for $10 billion and then get a settlement for 1.8? Absolutely not, man.
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B
I wished I could. That would be nice.
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Of course, we all wish we could, but only Trump can do it because he now has rigged the entire system in his favor.
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C
Didn't you say. Didn't you say it's like two police officers that have.
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A
Yes, two cops. So you're going against the cops.
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C
That's pretty telling. Like, two officers that were actually there are trying to put a fucking kibosh on this.
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B
What about all the FBI informants that were down on the ground? What are they doing about it?
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Did they get arrested? Are they part of the 1600 that got pardoned money now?
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I don't know, but you just heard
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Chad rattle off all of these Jan Sixers that are now back in prison for, like, the most heinous.
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Right? They should.
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C
That's who. That's who we're talking about.
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B
That.
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C
That is what Jan6 was. A bunch of criminals storming the Capitol to try to murder people. There's a. There's footage of a guy literally saying, we're coming in there.
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B
You. Some have been released. The ones that are in prison now, I mean, still in there.
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But they can apply.
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B
Leave them.
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A
They can apply.
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B
Well, then they shouldn't get it.
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Do you think Hassan Piker should apply to get some of this $1.8 billion?
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B
For what? For being wrongly accused.
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A
What, what's the fund called? It's the weaponization of lawfare. So anti weaponization fund. Clearly Trump's DOJ right now and Trump's whole administration, the same thing is weaponizing lawfare against him.
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B
I hope he does.
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Yes, but they won't give it to him because the way this money, at least how it's been set up, the way it's decided, who gets the money, there is a, a panel, I believe, of five people appointed by Trump who makes those decisions. And Trump has the ability to override all of them for any reason. There is no transparency into how these decisions are made, who they're going to give the money to. And by the way, Trump can, can just give the money to himself or any of his companies if he wants.
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B
Let's see how this turns out with all the lawsuits attached. They should not have leaked his taxes. And this is a little wacky, I do believe.
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C
Do you think that the President of the United States should have this much power?
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B
Yes. If we need this much power for things, yes. For what?
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C
What do we need it for?
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B
Keeping our country safe, Closing the border,
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stealing $1.8 billion of taxpayers money.
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B
Again, they shouldn't have leaked his taxes and we wouldn't be in this situation.
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C
He has absolute fucking power. There are no more branches of fucking.
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B
What is he supposed to do? Sit back and say leak my taxes? I don't care. Through my, through my wife's underwear. I think some of this is revenge that he is doing against people because he can do it.
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That's of course, that's a petty piece of shit.
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My house. And did that to us.
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Yeah, mom, mom. What you're talking about leaking of the taxes. Prior to Trump, every President has openly presented their taxes to the public. Said, here it is, here's how much money I make. So you know, I'm on the up and up. He's the only president in history who fought tooth and nail to not have to release his taxes. Made up lies about how he was under audit so he couldn't release them. All the shit. All that was a lie because he doesn't want people to see that he pays no taxes, that he cheats the system. And that's what that leak showed. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it showed essentially that he pays nothing. That he does every trick in the book to get out of paying his fair share as a billionaire because he's a corrupt piece of.
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Let's let this go on and see where the lawsuits go and see what happens. That's where I'm standing on this one.
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A
But you're not understanding a key component of this. Where the lawsuits go is always going to be now to the Supreme Court. And he owns it. He stacked it in his favor. They're the ones who initially said he can't ever be prosecuted for a crime.
- [26:26]
B
Not always. They don't always go with him. That's not their job. They do what is just.
- [26:31]
A
Let's move on to our next topic. It's in the same vein. Trump makes himself tax exempt. The $1.8 billion slush fund wasn't even the worst part of the IRS settlement. Buried in a one page addendum that was quietly posted to the Justice Department website following the day, Todd Blanch also signed an agreement declaring that the U.S. government is, quote, forever barred and precluded from prosecuting or pursuing any and all tax claims against Trump, his family members and his businesses for any tax returns filed before the settlement date. That means any ongoing IRS audits of Trump are now dead. The IRS can never go back and look at whether Trump underpaid his taxes ever. Every other American can also be subject to audit penalty, potential jail time if we don't pay our taxes. But now Trump is completely exempt from it. He now exists in a legal tier that no other American gets access to.
- [27:30]
B
Are you calling that like a pardon to anything and everything?
- [27:35]
A
It's beyond a pardon. It's he, I. They can't even look into it.
- [27:42]
B
Okay. That's a part.
- [27:43]
A
A pardon says you've been convicted of a crime and now we expunge that from your record. You don't have to go to jail. He has been convicted of nothing in terms of any of these tax things. But there were ongoing investigations into it. Now because Todd Blanche has said this come out. And again, this is his personal attorney giving him that deal.
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B
Right.
- [28:01]
A
This is not like he had to negotiate and go back and forth with whoever he's suing, which again, is the irs, an entity he controls, it's his personal lawyer giving him the deal. So now him, his entire family, all of his businesses, whatever shady shit they did, they got away with it. That's that.
- [28:22]
C
Like, why would you even have to do that? You would never have to do that.
- [28:27]
B
No. But guess what? I don't see anything different with this than what Joe Biden did with his family on the very last day that he was the president of our United States he pardoned everyone in his family and said they can never be touched again.
- [28:44]
A
That was corrupt.
- [28:46]
B
He probably said, well, if Joe Biden can do it, I'm going to do it too.
- [28:51]
C
So no one should be above the law. Do you agree?
- [28:56]
B
Agree. But both of them did this.
- [28:58]
A
Right. And both are wrong.
- [28:59]
C
Both are wrong. Should be above the law. No one.
- [29:03]
B
Correct.
- [29:04]
C
So this is another example of how Donald Trump is a corrupt piece of.
- [29:09]
B
You guys weren't on my butt when Joe Biden did it for everyone in his family.
- [29:13]
C
Because we don't care. I don't care about Joe Biden. Put them all in prison.
- [29:18]
A
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We did an episode. Wait a minute. We did an episode when that happened and we talked directly about it. Both Haley and I said, this is corrupt and it should not be happening. We were against that. We are against it now as well. Any kind of corruption where you have a high ranking politician using his or her power to exploit the nature of the law so that they are immune from prosecution, immune from investigation is bad.
- [29:47]
B
And Biden or President Trump. You're right.
- [29:50]
A
Correct. So. Right. So you're against Trump here again?
- [29:56]
B
Yes, I am.
- [29:58]
A
So today, so far, we're only halfway through the fucking show. I know you don't like that he's coming after your favorite child.
- [30:05]
B
No way. He's not sending him to the clink Clinker.
- [30:10]
A
I. You don't quite like the $1.8 billion slush fund.
- [30:15]
B
No, but I want to give that more time to see all the lawsuits against him, see how that comes out.
- [30:19]
A
Okay. And you don't like that he is now exempt from paying taxes? And I would even. I mean, I don't think this deal. Or you don't like that he was insider trading.
- [30:28]
D
Right.
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B
Right.
- [30:30]
A
And now you don't like that he's got this deal. And I would also say this deal, from what I read, I think it only applies to everything before the date of the deal. So. And looking into his taxes, literally from now to when he was born, can never be done again. Same goes for his entire family. But I would wager that this also gives him carte blanche to never pay taxes again ever. Because who's going to investigate it.
- [30:57]
B
Exactly. Yeah.
- [31:00]
A
So now Trump doesn't have to pay taxes. He's a billionaire that doesn't have to pay taxes. We all have to pay taxes.
- [31:06]
B
We sure do.
- [31:10]
A
Do you think Trump is better than you?
- [31:12]
B
No.
- [31:14]
A
But he is now. At least he thinks that. Let me ask you this. How does Trump never having to pay taxes again, help America.
- [31:21]
B
It's not. We've talked about this.
- [31:24]
A
Huh?
- [31:24]
B
I see. You're leading me right down the hole. I'm.
- [31:27]
D
What hole?
- [31:29]
C
No, we're just giving you facts.
- [31:31]
A
Yeah, there's no hole. We're all in the goddamn hole. If you want to look at it that way.
- [31:35]
C
Yeah, it's just more and more bleak by the day. And I think you're finally starting to understand, like, he's a criminal.
- [31:43]
B
I'm starting to see some continue. I'm starting to fade a bit, but let's keep going.
- [31:48]
A
Well, we have three more topics that we got to get to and one of them for sure, I think is going to be of interest to you in a very personal way.
- [31:56]
B
I already know.
- [31:57]
A
Let's however, do a little bit of a simmer down. Although without dad on the show, it's not really a simmer down. It's just kind of a nice little break. So the question I want to ask to all three of us is what is your favorite television show of all, all time?
- [32:14]
B
Go to Haley first. Haley. I think
- [32:18]
C
I'm a very nostalgic person. My entire.
- [32:21]
A
Oh, you like nostalgia?
- [32:23]
C
Nostalgia. I am rooted in nostalgia.
- [32:28]
A
I. Not. I want to just interject one moment. I have just completed a new novel that takes place 30 years in the future. In that future, the main character's favorite restaurant is a restaurant called Nostalgies.
- [32:41]
B
And.
- [32:41]
A
And it's. They have basically purchased some like corporate greed machine, purchased the menus for Chili's, Red Lobster, Black Eyed, all the big Olive Garden and all the big chain restaurants. And you can go there and order anything off any of the menus. And all the booths and stuff are made of like old fax machines and Nintendo consoles and stuff.
- [33:04]
C
Anyways, okay, so my favorite TV series of all time, this is the first one that literally just came to mind. But I have a lot of TV shows that I love. Anyway, my favorite, I'm going to give you two Tales from the Crypt.
- [33:20]
A
Oh, wow. Okay.
- [33:22]
C
And Keeper. Yes. And X Files. I spent a lot of time watching those two. There's. I love sci Fi, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, a little Joss Whedon.
- [33:33]
A
That one didn't hold up.
- [33:34]
C
There's a whole bunch. But like, I really, truly. Also Black Mirror. I love Tales from the Crypt. That was the first one.
- [33:42]
A
So Tales from the Crypt and Black Mirror, like anthology shows. I would, I would wager you probably also liked Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories.
- [33:52]
C
Kinda. Yeah, kinda. Nothing holds a camera from the Dark side. I did like Tales from The Dark side. But Tales from the Crowd for me, yes. Tales from the Crypt for me, though, was like it.
- [34:04]
A
Okay, Mom.
- [34:08]
B
Oh, this was hard. Currently, you know, my Yellowstone is the best. I haven't got time for the new spin off. The Dutton ranch is on now. I've got to get into that when I have time. My old ones would be Bonanza. Anything with Horses. Heartland. Anything with Horses. Audie Murphy was one of my favorite movie stars. Any of his movies from long ago. He was one of the most decorated soldiers, by the way, in the war. And my friend Ellen and I got to talk to him one time on the phone. That was kind of a good thing.
- [34:43]
A
How does that happen?
- [34:44]
C
Yeah, what?
- [34:45]
B
It was weird. We found out that he was staying in a hotel in Wichita, Kansas. And Ellen just loved my best friend from high school, just loved watching his movies. And we found out he was in that hotel, we made a call and they patched us through to his room, and we just started talking to him, saying how we loved him and all that. And Ellen talked to him for a while. I did. And take care. And. Yeah. Audie Murphy, huh?
- [35:10]
C
Times were different.
- [35:12]
A
I guess so.
- [35:13]
C
I'll pat you right on through, pal.
- [35:15]
B
The old shows like Bonanza, Gunsmoke, those kind. I love old westerns, but I know, Daz.
- [35:24]
C
I know what dad would say. What he would say. The Andy Griffith Show.
- [35:28]
B
Oh, yes, that's his favorite.
- [35:30]
C
And then also, I remember him spending a lot of time watching Cheers.
- [35:34]
B
Oh, yes. He's Frasier. Cheers.
- [35:36]
C
Yeah.
- [35:37]
A
Cheers are my greatest shows of all time. I would go with. I'll save my favorite for last, but I will give you a small list. The most influential television shows to me of all time were those 80s 90s sitcoms, bar none. We used to watch those as a family.
- [35:54]
C
Growing Pains.
- [35:55]
A
Growing Pains, Growing Pains, Family Ties, Cosby show, who's the Boss.
- [36:00]
C
Yeah.
- [36:00]
A
Hey, yo, Wait. That was my Tony Danza.
- [36:02]
B
Thank you. Not Tool. Tim the Tool Man. We like that one.
- [36:09]
A
Facts of life, Alf, Mr. Belvedere. I just remember, like, our family's kind of, like, weekly schedule rotated around what show was on which night. And it would always be like, oh, it's Monday night. I don't remember what those shows have been. Roseanne or whatever. But, like, all the network sitcoms of that era.
- [36:29]
C
Yeah.
- [36:29]
A
I think, like, 100. And us watching them as a family.
- [36:32]
C
Yeah.
- [36:32]
A
I think 100% influenced me in trying to come out here to Hollywood and make TV shows and movies and stuff because it was such an indelible part of me like, growing up and, like, learning comedic rhythm and timing and all that shit by just watching those shows and kind of absorbing it, they had a massive impact on me. That said, my favorite TV show of all time.
- [36:52]
B
Yes.
- [36:53]
A
You guys probably don't know this one, but it is. It is the true answer. It's a sci fi show called Farscape. That was the premise is basically like this guy, John Crrichton, he's a U.S. air Force test pilot and he's testing this new supersonic spaceship and it accidentally flies through a wormhole. And he gets spit out in the middle of like this big battle between all these spaceships. And he gets brought on board this big spaceship that is a prison spaceship. And these five prisoners have basically, like, taking control of it. And they're like, you're with us now. Fuck you. And so the whole series is them trying to flee the people who are trying to capture them, and he's trying to get back home and they're running to aliens, all this shit. I loved it.
- [37:37]
B
Yeah. How many listeners out there probably know
- [37:39]
A
that show Farscape got a big ass cult audience.
- [37:44]
B
Go back to Roseanne. We loved her. We love watching that show. But then what happened? That network, like, screwed her over and made her.
- [37:53]
A
Not screwed her over. She came out and said some super right wing pro Trump, right? It's like, yeah, we can't have this. You can't be on the show anymore. They basically removed her because they came back and they did the second version of it, the Connors. And she was on the Connors. She says the crazy shit, the crazy political shit. They say you can't be on the show. Screwed her over, though. She created Roseanne. There's no screwing over that. She's getting checks for every one of those episodes forever.
- [38:20]
B
That's good. They shouldn't have dumped her like that. I like her. She's a little nutty, but I like her.
- [38:24]
C
I will say also Breaking Bad. I like that.
- [38:28]
A
Of course.
- [38:28]
C
Yeah.
- [38:31]
B
Go back further. What was that show where there was the robot in outer space?
- [38:37]
A
Buck Rogers.
- [38:39]
B
Buck Rogers. But before that one, it was gosh
- [38:43]
C
darn it, I wasn't born. I don't know.
- [38:45]
B
Okay, yeah, it was a good one.
- [38:47]
A
Robot in space.
- [38:48]
B
There was a robot.
- [38:50]
A
There are many, many shows.
- [38:52]
B
And Judy was on it. And I like my robot.
- [38:55]
C
I know is the Jetsons.
- [38:56]
A
Yeah. Is that what you're talking about? Judy was on the Jetsons?
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B
No.
- [39:02]
C
Lost in Space.
- [39:04]
B
Yes.
- [39:04]
C
Lost in Space.
- [39:05]
B
Lost in Space. I like that one.
- [39:07]
A
Yeah.
- [39:07]
B
Okay.
- [39:08]
A
All right. Well, that was a Good. Simmer down. Let's move on to our fourth topic, Trump hates animals. This week, Trump lift a Biden era ban on M44 cyanide bombs for use on public lands. These are spring loaded devices that spray a lethal dose of sodium cyanide into an animal's mouth when it bites the bait, killing the animal after an intensely painful five minute long death. They are supposed to target coyotes and foxes, but over the years, M44s have also killed pets, endangered wildlife, including wolves, grizzly bears and California condors, and have even poisoned people. In addition to lifting the ban on this cruel device, Trump also indefinitely delayed federal protections for monarch butterflies, despite the Fish and Wildlife Service's own assessment that Eastern monarchs have a 56 to 74% chance of extinction over the next 60 years and Western monarchs face a 99% chance of extinction. The administration has also rolled back blanket protections for threatened animals and plants more broadly and eliminated public participation in decisions about the federal government's wildlife killing program, which already kills more than 400,000 native animals per year. Mom, you love monarchs. You raised them. I helped you, tried to help you reattach one of their little pods, one of their cocoons, back to the top of your cage that you had it in while I was back there. Every year you house monarchs. You give them a safe place, tag them, track them. You love them. Trump has now made it so they are not a protected species. Why do you think he did this?
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B
Because he's stupid, he's cruel, and he doesn't like animals.
- [40:48]
C
He has no regard for our planet, for people, for animals. He is a cruel dictator. There's a cruelty in this.
- [40:57]
B
Yes.
- [40:58]
C
Allowing cyanide bombs to be dropped, knowing what that does to animals, like, there is a cruelty that comes along with this decision.
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B
It's terrible. It's terrible. I hate it.
- [41:09]
A
Why do you think Trump said it's okay to use this insanely cruel method that Biden, by the way, banned? Why do you think Trump has brought it back?
- [41:20]
B
What are. I don't know why? What are they trying to do, like, clear land for people to take land over?
- [41:27]
A
Like, the little things that I read, it's, it's mainly for, like, coyotes and, and wolves and foxes and that are kind of like screwing with people's cattle and whatever on big like.
- [41:38]
B
And I do know the wild forces, the mustangs, I've read a lot about that. I understand all of this, but some people feel, when they see them out in the wild and they do starve to death, that it's Better to round them up and contain them and then try to find homes for them that way. But yet some get shipped off for slaughter, which is very bad. So that's a vicious cycle too, with the blm, with the wild horses. I don't agree with any of that. I don't agree with his stand on anything about animals. Butterflies, big X.
- [42:12]
C
But hey, but the. And the cyanide bombs, like, it is sadistic.
- [42:17]
B
Yeah, it's terrible. Big X.
- [42:21]
A
But does that change your opinion at all on him as a person?
- [42:25]
B
A little bit? Yes. It's big X. I don't know what it say.
- [42:29]
C
Does it potentially make you question him being mentioned in the Epstein files, where there's a lot of this stick going on?
- [42:37]
B
No, that's a little different. That's different?
- [42:39]
C
How is that different?
- [42:41]
B
Epstein files is completely different than animal management and what he's doing to our animals.
- [42:46]
C
Allowing the most painful way to die, murdered, murdering animals with the most painful way that you can possibly comprehend. That makes you sadistic, like at your core. If you have no problem letting that happen.
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B
Makes me sick to my stomach.
- [43:03]
C
But does it make you question his role in the Epstein files? I have.
- [43:08]
B
You know, I'll probably never read all those. There's no way in heck I can read every one of those files.
- [43:14]
A
No one's ever going to read them all because he's withholding 3.5 million of them.
- [43:18]
B
Right.
- [43:19]
A
And Todd Blanche has already said it's over. We're not releasing anymore. We're not looking into it. Fuck you. Move on.
- [43:24]
C
They're going after people like Hassan Piker for. For giving aid to children in another country. But we're not even going to question the Epstein files. Like, do you see how corrupt our government is? How wrong they are?
- [43:37]
B
Yes, I am. Yes.
- [43:40]
A
But what Haley is asking is the stuff with the animals. It reveals that he is openly cruel, that he does not care about human life, that he is sadistic, potentially takes pleasure in visiting pain and suffering on other living beings that now is known because of this cyanide bomb thing. Can you not take the one step further and see that maybe some of these accusations in the Epstein files that report his cruelty, maybe they're true.
- [44:11]
B
I. I don't correlate those two together. But you're saying he takes pleasure in killing animals or whatever. I don't think that's the case.
- [44:18]
C
Then why did he do this?
- [44:20]
A
Yeah, why lift the ban on the cyanide bomb?
- [44:22]
C
Why would you do that?
- [44:23]
B
I don't know. Other than clearing the land for some
- [44:25]
A
reason, but they have, because of the Biden era ban on that. They have other ways to do that.
- [44:33]
B
Right? Well, I'll tell you this then. I like Biden over Trump on that one, that's for damn sure.
- [44:38]
A
Okay, let's move on. Let's see if you like Biden over Trump on this one too. Poisoning the Water Supply this week the EPA announced it is repealing limits on four types of pfas forever chemicals in drinking water, rolling back the first new drinking water standards in 30 years that the Biden administration put into place in 2024. The Biden EPA had determined there was no safe level of these synthetic chemicals that never break down in the environment, accumulate in your body over time and cause cancer, thyroid disease, reproductive harm, immune system suppression, and liver and kidney disease. This is all happening while data centers are emerging as major new sources of PFAS contamination. The massive AI server farms use PFAS in their cooling systems, semiconductors and fire suppression systems. And they're contaminating drinking water sources near their facilities. In North Carolina, PFAS emissions from chemical operations serving the tech industry have contaminated more than 7,000 drinking water wells. Mom, how does rolling back protections on clean drinking water and allowing corporations to pollute public water make America great again?
- [45:44]
B
It does not.
- [45:46]
C
And you understand that he's doing this for money. All of these companies that are setting up shop in these towns, they are in his pocket. And so he's allowing all these things, removing sanctions. Like there's a video of AOC holding up drinking water from a couple of these towns that are being affected by these giant data centers. And it's literally brown. It's brown. That's what they have to bathe in. Drink. That's what they've got.
- [46:10]
B
We had talked about this before on a podcast long ago and it had something to do with he wanted the communities around to pay for it instead of part of the government or something. But then when I googled it one more time, it said that the Trump EPA did not eliminate all of the protection that it has kept limits on two of the major things. Or something like it hasn't cut everything out.
- [46:37]
A
No, but it's rolling this back makes us less safe. It means more people are going to get cancer. We don't want doing it because he's buddies with the CEOs of these companies that want to build these data centers and it's cheaper for them to not have to make them safe by potentially hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars. So of course I remember reading an article about this when there are a bunch of, like, I want to say it was within the span of two or three years, there were some big oil tanker trains that exploded in certain towns, killed a bunch of people, made the whole area unlivable, etc. Etc. And I read this article that basically said it will cost more for these oil companies to go back and retrofit all of their trains and their how they, you know, get the oil from one place to another. It would cost more for them to retrofit everything and make it safe than it would to just pay out settlements with all the families that it kills. And so for that reason, they don't do the retrofitting. They kill people, they pay people. And that's cheaper than making it safer. That is now happening. That exact thing is happening with all of these data centers and all this contamination. It's not just data centers. It's like chemical companies. It's a bunch of different companies that are contributing to this pollution. But ultimately those companies, and they know this, they have people whose literal jobs it is to look at this and say, like, in the future, 10, 20 years from now, we're polluting all these places. We're going to have a rash of people who have all kinds of cancers. How much will it cost if we go the cancer route or if we go the safe route? The cancer route is cheaper. So they don't give a fuck. They're doing it on purpose because it's cheaper than doing it safely. And he's now allowing that to happen.
- [48:21]
B
Just like that movie that Julia Roberts was in. Remember what was the name of that movie? Yes. Yeah, same thing. Same thing, exactly.
- [48:30]
A
And so he's allowing it because they're in his pocket. They're the ones donating money to his supposed ballroom. They're the ones donating millions of dollars to come to his special dinners and be in a special club and buying his cryptocurrency. So they do that, they give him money and in exchange he rolls back protections for us so that his rich friends can get richer. And that's how the whole thing works.
- [48:53]
C
When, when you keep. Previously you've said like, yeah, well, he's making all this money because he's a smart businessman. This is how he's making all the money. He's killing us.
- [49:04]
B
Yeah, another X. Big one. Big one, Big one.
- [49:08]
A
A lot of big X's. Yeah, a lot of big X's.
- [49:13]
B
A lot of them. And if he puts my friend Hassan Piker in jail, I'm going to protest. We all Will I love it.
- [49:21]
C
Like, really?
- [49:22]
A
We're like, he's killing animals. He's killing people. He's waging this crazy war in Iran. He's so corrupt. Insider trading, all that. You're like, well, he's still my president. Hassan Piker gets a subpoena. This.
- [49:34]
C
I'm going to war, my boy.
- [49:38]
B
Yep.
- [49:39]
A
Okay.
- [49:42]
C
Hey, this is like, I'll take.
- [49:44]
A
There is so much this week has been so surreal in terms of, like, Hunter Biden mentioning our show. Hassan Piker is like the thing that's. That's putting you over the edge.
- [49:55]
B
I had to try to tune back in. It's been a hard week. Thank you for all the dms. It's really hard. I'm trying to stay strong to figure this out. Praying every day gets better. I witnessed something that a lot of people don't witness in, in their life. I witnessed the man that I love 50 years, died before my eyes. Brought back to life. I'm having trouble with that. I have a good friend that is a therapist. She is a life coach. She helped me a lot yesterday. We talked through it. She told me some things to focus on to get through that. But it's weird. It's like I'm out here some days and then I can center myself a little bit better. Thank you for all the DMs. Thank you, Chad and Haley, I love you. I couldn't have done another step without you for a while. Thank you.
- [50:47]
A
Well, we're going to be coming back more too, I think with, you know, higher frequency than normal, obviously, until we can get through this and hopefully get dad back on his feet.
- [50:56]
B
Okay.
- [50:56]
A
Or back in his chair, I guess.
- [51:00]
B
Oh, he wants to do the podcast. I said, no, we got a rule. You gotta be back in your podcasting Captain Kirk chair.
- [51:07]
A
Exactly. If he cannot sit in a chair, he cannot do the show. So.
- [51:11]
B
And non stop, non stop news Max is on right there. He's watching it.
- [51:16]
A
And tell him for what it's worth, after that Hunter Biden thing, I'm trying to see if I can get him to come on the show.
- [51:21]
B
I told him, dad's got to be there for that. I did show him a little bit about that. I said, look, he's talking about our family. He goes, so.
- [51:30]
A
So, okay, let's move on. We have one other topic here. Trump skips his own son's wedding. This week, Donald Trump Jr. Married Bettina Anderson in Palm beach. And Trump was not there. Trump posted on X citing circumstances pertaining to government in my love of the United States. Of America taking precedence over his son's wedding. Trump has played golf nearly every weekend since the Iran war began, has attended UFC fights and. And traveled to China for two days, but apparently cannot find the time for his eldest son's wedding. Mom, do you think Trump missing his own son's wedding makes him a good dad?
- [52:13]
B
No.
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A
Okay.
- [52:15]
B
Maybe even if he didn't like the girl. That doesn't matter. He needs to be there. For what? I would do the same for you guys.
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A
I think he said he's. She's nice. I think he said, I've met her several times and she's okay by me.
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B
Okay.
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A
But. Huh.
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B
He should have been there.
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C
You did. Wait, you didn't include. There were like shots fired on the White House line.
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B
Oh, that's right. Shots were fired.
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A
We can do shots. We can do shots fired in one second. I just want to ask you.
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B
Thought he was. Jesus Christ.
- [52:45]
A
They said, mom, I want to ask you this. You've said he's not a good dad. Trump has also cheated on every wife he's ever had, including with Melania while she was pregnant with his child.
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B
Right.
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A
Do you think he's a good husband?
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B
No. Okay.
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A
Not a good dad. Not a good husband. Likes to kill animals in the most painful ways. Do you think he's a good person?
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B
I don't know him personally, but the things I'm seeing, not
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A
okay.
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B
Okay.
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A
So I'm just.
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B
Let, Let that be.
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A
Settle in. I'm not beating you, but. Yeah. We didn't talk about this, but there were shots fired outside the White House yesterday. It was yesterday. We're recording.
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B
Apparently his daughter. There was an assassination attempt plot that they. Yeah. That's terrible.
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A
Yeah. The guy on the White House lawn, though, was at least per the reports. Yes. Had some severe mental problems and they shot him. But it, it just is like one more to throw on the pile of whether you believe all these assassination attempts are real or.
- [53:52]
B
Right.
- [53:53]
A
Fake or whatever. More people are shooting guns around and at Donald Trump than any president we have ever had in the history of this goddamn country. Why do you think that's the case?
- [54:05]
B
People don't like him, apparently.
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C
I mean, we just listed why this whole show.
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B
I think there's been other attempts on other presidents. We just have not known about it. They just maybe cover it up.
- [54:17]
A
Well, certainly there are. There have been attempts on other presidents. Some successful, as we know. Abraham Lincoln, Kennedy, even Reagan. I guess successful. Ish. I mean, he, he got shot, he didn't die. But I'm just getting to the the idea that, like, under Trump, the chaos that is American life is ratcheted up to fucking 10. Like, I didn't even put that in this document. A guy went to the White House and opened fire and had to be taken out. And I'm like, yeah, whatever. That's just a standard Saturday at this point.
- [54:54]
B
You know, right now, the world is crazy. It's on fire everywhere, and it's crazy.
- [54:59]
C
Do you attribute that to Donald Trump?
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B
I attribute it to a lot of things all the way around the world.
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C
But, like, think about, you know, the world is so divided right now. It's why we didn't speak for however long, you know. Do you attribute that to Donald Trump?
- [55:15]
B
Part, maybe. Part, yes.
- [55:17]
C
And you can kind of acknowledge that, that you and dad, for a minute were, like, radicalized to one end.
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A
Imagine, mom, think back. Think back to the very first kind of piece of this that really fractured our family was when Donald Trump got elected in 2016. I made two memes, and I put them on my Facebook. And these memes were just pictures of Trump with quotes that he said. That's all it was. And you were in hysterics, crying, saying, I somehow, in quotes, ruined your Facebook. I remember that. And I was like, what? I posted on my page, on my reading Facebook. Then dad even called me, which is a extreme rarity. You better take those fucking memes down. Your mother is not happy about this. We'll never talk to you again. He said, if I didn't take the memes down, right? And so I took them down. I didn't give a. I was like, whatever. There something's up their butt about this. But in that moment, I was like, this is some different ass. Like, the fact that you and dad would. Would threaten to never talk to me again because of a meme I posted on Facebook that was insane to me, and it was all because of Trump. For whatever reason, Trump has gotten to you guys and fired you up to a degree that you've never been before, that you won't talk to your own child over a meme.
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C
But you don't feel that way anymore.
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B
No.
- [56:42]
C
And it kind of goes back to Hunter Biden on the Candace Owens show. They were able to have a civilized conversation because they didn't. They hated each other. You know, at one point, called him
- [56:53]
A
a crackhead 200 million times on her show.
- [56:55]
C
Well, she called him a crackhead also on that show, but that, too, whatever. But they were able to have, like, this kind of civilized conversation. And I think what brought them together was Their disdain for the state of our government. Donald Trump, like, people are starting to really turn on him right now, and I think he might be one of
- [57:19]
B
those people not turning yet. But I'm seeing things I don't like for sure.
- [57:24]
A
But that's a standard pattern now. It's every week on the show, you see something you don't like, something you disagree with.
- [57:31]
B
Okay, I'm having anxiety. I'm about done. Okay.
- [57:34]
A
Okay.
- [57:34]
B
Really?
- [57:35]
A
Okay.
- [57:37]
C
Show your Hassan piker shirt. Show the rep, your golden child. Show them what you got and that you'll wear that if we go protest. It's like the Hamburglar stealing the White House.
- [57:51]
A
Skeletal Hamburglar taking over the White House. Yeah, it's nice. All right, Mom. Well, I'm sorry you're feeling anxiety.
- [57:58]
C
Yeah.
- [57:58]
A
I hope today gets better. And thank you for coming on this podcast. I know it's. It's been a lot. It's however many days I was there. I was just like. I came back to LA and it took me a full 48 hours of just, like, sleeping in weird, intermittent cycles. Like, am I getting sick? Am I not to even, like, feel semi normalized? I still don't quite. And so I. I know that you're really going through it, living there, dealing with it all, but hopefully dad will get better soon. Thank you for doing this podcast. Thank you, Haley, for doing this podcast. I love both of you guys very much, and dad and I hope we will. We will get through this moment as a family the best we can as quickly as possible.
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B
Okay?
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C
Love you, Chad. Love you, Mom. We're all gonna be there in June, okay.
- [58:44]
A
To help you again for my 29th birthday.
- [58:47]
C
Yeah.
- [58:49]
A
And I will be doing a live tonight. I don't know if either one of you want to join me. Probably not, Mom. Maybe Haley. I'll be doing a live tonight at 6pm PST here on our YouTube channel to answer any and all questions you may have about today's show. So please join me for that.
- [59:03]
C
I'll probably be there. I'll be there. I'll do it.
- [59:06]
A
Okay. Me and Haley will be there.
- [59:07]
B
Family member, remember? Coming through.
- [59:09]
A
What's that?
- [59:10]
B
I have a family member coming through my house tonight.
- [59:13]
A
Hasan Piker.
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B
No, I. No.
- [59:17]
C
A different golden child.
- [59:18]
B
Yeah.
- [59:19]
A
Yeah. How many kids do you like better than us that are not biologically related to us? A topic for next week, perhaps. But thank you for joining us, and my sister and I will see you tonight.
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B
Bye.