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Welcome to the Necessary Conversation midweek edition. It is me, Chad Colchin, lefty liberal, and my mom in her best American flag hat. Still no Trump hat.
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I like this hat. It's okay. It means nothing. Y' all are crazy. It means nothing.
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All right, well, we are going to dive into what we usually do on these midweek episodes is show each other videos from the opposite side of the political aisle. Today I have kind of a smorgasbord. I don't have a main theme. I just had three videos that I thought you might find interesting. Or I'll find it interesting to watch you watch them. And you've also sent me three videos as well.
B
They were kind of strange ones. But today in California is that election between Spencer.
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It was yesterday.
B
Yeah, but I think they tell it today who wins, right?
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No. Well, I don't know about that. They are still counting. I think Spencer. Spencer Pratt is high up, but so is Karen Bass.
B
Right? So if. If there's no big number there, don't they both go into the November thing? Election?
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Yeah, I believe so. I think it will likely be Karen Bass versus Spencer Pratt.
B
Spencer Pratt. Yes, I do, too, which is insane.
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So is that the one you want
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to play your Spencer Pratt joker strange little clip again? They. They're fascinating. Me. I don't know why.
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All right, here we go. This is an AI Spencer Pratt campaign video. Here we go.
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Okay.
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When people wonder why Spencer Pratt is doing so well in his campaign for LA mayor, they forget that the two people he's running against are dumb as bag of the rocks.
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Once upon a time, there was a beautiful city called Los Angeles. But then a scary the kids called Basuda took over the town. She did all sorts of bad things.
B
Like what?
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She let all the drug addicts take over the parks so no kids had a place to play. Then she let them hurt the puppies. She let them do drugs in front of schools so none of the kids were safe. While she was partying far, far away, she let the city burn to the ground. That's when everyone said, enough is enough. One by one, all the mommies decided it was time to fix things. Remember, there's nothing more powerful than an angry momm.
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Did the mommy save the puppies?
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All the mommies came together and kicked the monster out of town. And she never came back. And all the puppies were safe. The end.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Holy.
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When. When I saw that this morning, I was like, what?
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Holy Christ. Well, that's something.
B
But some of that stuff that they're saying in there Is correct. Like the mayor. That lady was far, far away when the LA fire started. So I understand that. I don't understand the puppy thing. Yeah. But when I saw that this morning, I was like, how can people really, really agree with that AI commercial thing or whatever that is? That ad? That's ridiculous.
A
What I don't understand. Are you showing me this ad because you like Spencer Pratt and you think this is effective?
B
I kind of do like Spencer Pratt on what he's running on, but I think those commercials, those whatever they are, they're ridiculous, Mom. So what?
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Just like Trump, Okay? This. You're getting fooled again. Spencer Pratt is an idiot reality TV star, just like Donald Trump, who is running on this, like, hard line. I'm going to get rid of all the homeless people because they're all drug addicts and.
B
Right.
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Fuck everybody else. He doesn't know anything about how to run a city. He's never had a job. He's an idiot. He is a rich kid idiot. Just like Donald Trump.
B
But why are people backing him? There are people that like that and they're, they're saying he's great because he's a Republican. I, I do know he is Republican, but yet he has some Democratic views and sides. I do believe. I just. When I saw that, When I saw that, I was like, whoa, I'm showing because I think it's funny. I don't, I don't support that ad. That's insane.
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It also is so. In terms of, like, what it's conveying. It's so mixed and jumbled. The Joker is a kind of, like, incel hero. Spencer Pratt should be on the Joker's side, at least in the contemporary movies that have been made. But instead he turns Karen Bass into the Joker. Then he, he turns himself not even into Batman, but into a Robin kind of figure. So he's like the sidekick to a hero who's not in the video. Then in the end, they put Karen Bass in a crystal and send her into space, which is what happened to Superman's enemies, Zod and the. The other people from Krypton who were super villains. So it's a lot of, like, just mixing weird up and then making up weird about the puppies. And she lets people do drugs in front of schools and all this. It's. It's just all lies.
B
It's crazy. I saw it this morning and I, I was just, like, laughing to think people really are thinking, that's okay. It's not.
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The people voting for Spencer Pratt are voting against Karen Bass.
B
Exactly.
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They would vote against anyone. I mean, vote for anybody who was running against her. I don't think he has a chance of winning. And if he is the mayor of Los Angeles, you always talked about, mum, Donnie was going to New York will fall within a week of him being elected, which clearly hasn't happened. I think that may happen to Los Angeles if Spencer Pratt gets elected mayor.
B
We'll see. I just thought it was kind of bizarre.
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I may be dead within a week of that happening.
B
Okay.
A
All right, you have a couple other videos here. Which one do you want to do next?
B
I don't even remember what I sent you, to be honest.
A
You had one that was about the people canceling their. Or at least just from the title. I'm seeing something about the cancellation of the, the musical acts for the state fair.
B
Oh, okay, we can see that. Yeah.
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All right, let's check it out. Here we go.
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President Donald Trump is doing a lot to celebrate America's 250th birthday. And one of them is the Great American State Fair. But its future looks uncertain. Musical guests were booked to perform at this event, but several of them recently backed out, partly because of the event's ties to Trump. Initially, Trump said he would headline the festivities himself. He said on Truth Social that he understood that these artists were getting, quote, the yips from having to do their performance and suggested bringing him, quote, the man who gets much larger audiences than Elvis in his prime out instead. The fair is scheduled from late June into early July and includes an array of exhibits and family friendly attractions. But Trump suggested in a follow up post that the solution was to cancel it and have a rally instead of having, quote, overpriced singers who nobody wants to hear. Artists who dropped out include Bret Michaels and Martina McBride. Some said they had been misled about the theme of the shows and McBride said on Instagram that she had been, quote, presented with an opportunity to perform at a non partisan event, but that turned out to be misleading.
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Okay, I'm. I'm a little confused. Why'd you send me this? We talked about this on Sunday.
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I.
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Sorry, go ahead.
B
Yeah, we talked, we talked about that earlier, but I sent that today because I did see that he is canceling it. And he said, I'm just going to have, I'm going to have my own freedom. Something where he's going to be the main event. I swear I thought I read that today.
A
So he's canceling the state fair?
B
I think he is.
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Can't be.
B
I think that's what I Read. He's going to cancel the state fair and put something on where he's the main event and in charge of speaking to people for the freedom of our country.
A
Trump floats. This is two days ago, 23 hours ago. TRUMP suggests canceling Great American State Fair after a music artist back out. So he's talking about it, but I don't think he's canceled it yet. Interesting. But that thing you just showed me, that was, I think an AP video. So that wasn't a pro Trump thing?
B
No, no.
A
You're now sending me anti Trump videos?
B
No, not really. I'm just sending you videos where those people are saying they're not going to sing there now.
A
Yeah, but that was from ap, Associated Press. That wasn't Newsmax. That wasn't one of your right wing Instagram people.
B
You know, I haven't been on a lot lately, but. But when I tune in, I did see that.
A
So now you're looking at AP for your news.
B
I did see that, yes.
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Okay.
B
Okay. Interesting.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'm curious to see what happens with this. The UFC thing is also. I have a clip that is roughly about the UFC thing that's looking to be a complete disaster. They're talking about how many bugs are going to be there that night, because the lights from the thing that they're building, that bugs are just going to be dropping on the. The fights themselves all night. So that'll be interesting. And he's also floated the idea that he's going to leave the structure up forever because he loves it.
B
Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
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All right, let's play. You sent me one more video, then I have three to play you as well. I don't know what this video is. I think it's about Mum. Donnie.
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Oh, yes. Yes.
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Okay, here we go.
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This is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. The audacity of what you about to hear him say.
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Through our new citywide campaign, Fix the City, we will focus on the worst landlords in New York City. When necessary, we will take aggressive legal action to remove negligent owners and property managers.
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How?
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And buildings that have suffered chronic neglect. We will work to transfer ownership to responsible stewards.
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What stewards?
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That include community land trusts, nonprofits. Nonprofits, or even the tenants themselves.
E
Do you know how stupid you have to be to cheer that? That fool said. He didn't say, we're going to buy these people out. He said, we're going to transfer ownership. How are you going to transfer ownership from a landlord? Because the State don't like the landlord's rent policy or whatever the case may be. You going to transfer some. We may transfer to the tenant. How is that going to work? I'm going to tell you all something real quick. And y' all all notice everybody that's watching you noticed. This is the most nonsensical thing to ever exist, bro. There's. They act like commodities or ownership is passive, like in name only. I own this building.
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That's it.
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Like, I don't work, I don't have to project, I don't renovate. I didn't put no money into it. I just. On the paper, I own this place. And then we go transfer the ownership to that person. That person ain't got no business experience, have never run a company, don't know a P and l ain't got no investment. Money in debt, bad credit, and they just go, you, you do a transfer to that person.
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How does that work?
B
I like that guy. I liked him.
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That is Tatum. So I guess he's a cop who has a podcast that he's talking about this now. He opened that video by saying it was the craziest thing he's ever heard, by the way.
B
Funny though, none of that makes sense. So he's going to just transfer if you're a bad tenant owner there and transfer it to somebody else. That'll be better. And give it all away and give, give it back to the people. None of that made sense to me.
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I'm for it. I don't know if he's actually doing this or if that was just a part of like his campaign speech or whatever, I have no idea. But the idea that there are, you know, bad landlords or bad property owners who are predatory, who are jacking up rents, who are not fixing things in the building, who are just bad at. At doing that because of the bottom line, because they want to make more money at the expense of like kicking people out of their houses. And I'm all for getting rid of those people. I'm all for transferring that property to a non profit or why wouldn't you be?
B
No, they either sell it to someone, you don't just transfer it, you sell it to someone that will do it. Right. None of that really makes sense to me.
A
But that to me was implied that like the city would buy it from them at Fair Market or something and transfer the ownership.
B
I don't think that was implied in what he was saying. I don't think.
A
Well, maybe not. I don't know. I haven't Heard anything about this? Let me.
B
Okay.
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Okay.
B
What? I just thought that was interesting. I like that guy.
A
Yeah, that dude seems crazy. I like that he was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Meanwhile, Trump is like, I'm gonna kill an entire society.
B
Okay.
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That's not crazier.
B
Two different things you're talking about there, but that's okay.
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I'm just saying. We are now in week 13 of the Iran war. Notice that there's no more mentioning of peace talks or a deal being signed or anything like that. Straight. No, there was still morning.
B
There was this morning again.
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Did they sign it?
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No.
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Is the war over? I rest my case, your honor. Okay, I have. Let's start with. Let's start with this clip. Here we go.
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This video of Bill Pulte has so many threads to pull, I don't even know where to start. But I want you to listen to it and watch it carefully, because it's pretty outrageous. Watch.
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Now here's the first ever man live dildo slap on the pp. Live pty. Look at this thing. All right,
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Come on, partner. Daddy.
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All right, fine. There you have it. The first dildo slap in history. Live. So, Bill, this says Bill Pulte, all right? And then if you notice, on, it's got a tramp stamp with a butterfly.
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I like only the young one.
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Ass cheek set. Yes, it does say. It does say only the young on the back here. Only young. December 4th.
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That looks pretty badass.
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We have a mushroom stamp on the head of it and bed bath on one cheek and gme. Oh, GME on the other.
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I got too excited there.
G
So that's Bill Pulte that you saw on the right of that video. You know, Republicans are very interesting, right, For. For people that really like to be up in our shit and they want to sit there and be all anti lgbtq. Plus, there were two men playing with a dildo, slapping each other with a dildo.
B
Right?
G
I mean, I'm just telling you what I just saw. I saw two men, white Republican men, slapping each other with a dildo in their faces. But then we segued into the award that was given to Bill Pulte. Quote, Bill Pulte, only the young. And just in case we didn't hear the only the young part of it, Bill Pulte made sure that he said it into the microphone so that we didn't miss that. The award that was given to Bill Pulte, it looked like a woman because one of the guys there said there was a Tramp, stamp of a butterfly, whatever that is about as on brand as we can get with the gop, right? With the party that continues to protect pedophiles. I mean, I don't even. I don't even. I got nothing. That is the person that's going to be the director of our National Intelligence Program. That's the person that's going to protect you from Russian and foreign interference in our elections. That's the person who's going to protect us from terrorists that commit acts like 9 11. Thanks convicted felon Donald Trump for making us feel so much not safer, I guess, including the young. The young girls.
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So that guy, Bill Pulte, is the new Director of National Intelligence. Tulsi Gabbard, left, she's going to be with her husband, who has cancer, I think.
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Right, Right.
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Trump installed that guy. He's now the new Director of National Intelligence. The guy receiving an award while you just watch those dudes hitting each other in the face with dildos and then giving Bill Pulte an award that says he fucks only the young.
B
Where did that clip even come from?
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I'm not sure. Some weird podcaster event or whatever that Bill Pulte was at, like, years ago,
B
or is that recent or what? That's ridiculous.
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Years ago? Does it matter? How is that guy now the Director of National Intelligence? Those are the type of people Trump is putting into place.
B
Yeah. Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
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We've gotten to a point where he has normalized it to put these buffoons in major parts of the Cabinet, major roles. I mean, like Hegseth. Remember when Hegseth was getting confirmed and all that? And the people at Fox News were like, he's drunk on the job constantly. Sexual assault allegations. He paid a woman that he sexually assaulted to not talk about it. She had to sign an NDA. And you and dad were both like, whatever. We like hag Seth. Now we're in this position where we're in a war we can't get out of that has no objective, partially because of Hegseth, but he's a shining example. Cash Patel is another one who, like, these people are not qualified to be doing their jobs. And they're just like Internet personalities and reality TV show hosts, idiots. But they will do whatever Trump wants. And Bill Pulte is that type of guy as well. So now you have a guy who's. Whatever this event he was at, accepting this weird award where they're basically saying he has sex with young people. Now he's the head of our National Intelligence.
B
Yeah, ridiculous. And I wished I would have seen that sooner. I could have, like, like, checked that. Is that real? Is that real?
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What do you mean?
B
Was that clip real?
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Yes, it was real. Hang on, let me see if I can find.
B
I believe you. It's just. It's terrible.
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Dildo clip.
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I remember.
B
Okay. Do I really want to be talking dildos with my son? Not really. Today.
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Here. Hang on. The video shows Pty getting a lewd award after a man gets slapped on stage with a sex toy. This will say what it is. An unearthed video of Donald Trump's new spy chief received a lude. Blah, blah, blah. On Tuesday, the president announced. Let me see if I could just find where this is from.
B
Yeah. What year?
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It resurfaced from a 2023 live event. Oh, wow. The event was hosted by Pulte, so he was the host of it, who was then the chief executive of Pulte Capital Partners, the Internet influencer. PP from the PP show, a platform that covers news and issues with popular retail investment community.
B
Yeah. Okay. These people need to be checked out. They need to be checked out. That's ridiculous.
A
No, but they are being checked out by Trump.
B
I know, but it's not good. I remember. I know it's not what ifs and what abouts, but who was the guy in. In the Biden administration that stole the suitcase and was, you know, dressing like women and all of that? And do you remember that guy and everybody? He stole a suitcase in broad daylight?
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Yeah, I. I have a vague memory of this, but I can't remember exactly. Yeah.
B
And I don't want to say what ifs. That. That guy's nuts. That. That clip was insane. Trump needs to do better. He needs to do better, but he can't.
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That's the whole point I'm making with that clip, is he doesn't want to, in quotes, do better. He just wants people in those positions who will do whatever he tells them to do.
B
Well, if he. Why would he pick that guy?
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Because that guy will do whatever he tells him to do. And I'm sure if he's, you know, a partner or even an owner of some big investment firm, I'm sure it's all, you know, dirty dealings back and forth. This. This. Fuck. I don't have the numbers. I read it this morning. You know, Trump invested in TKO before they started doing the. TKO is the company that owns the ufc, right? He invested a shitload of money in it before they announced that they were going to do this White House fight event.
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Yes, I know. You Told me that.
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So he buys a bunch of stock. We're going to do a UFC at the White House. Stock go up. He makes money, sell stock. So whatever he's doing with this new Director of National Intelligence, I'm sure they are cooking some shit up to make even more money, insider trading type shit.
B
We need to investigate that and Trump needs to do better. It's ridiculous.
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There's no investigation. It's been. Those trades are public. Trump bought the stock. Trump went out publicly and promoted the company that he bought and he profits off of it. I'm sure shit like that is going to be going on with this guy too.
B
We need to watch that. I don't want to talk dildos with you anymore. Okay, okay. Move on. Okay. I mean, my hot tamale. Move on.
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Here is. Let's do this clip next. This is Aaron Parnas, a guy I watch all the time. He's really good news on Instagram. He's talking about the structure that he's built for the UFC and like what the White House looks like. And he has a very good side by side picture of what the White House used to look like and now what it looks like.
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We're getting you images of what the White House looked like before and what it currently looks like after. I'm going to show you the before is on top, the after is today. On the left you have this Optimus prime looking thing, which is the UFC cage match. On the right is the Ballroom. On top you see the White House before this construction began. Literally no construction anywhere. No UFC cage match, no White House ballroom construction. It's a completely different scenario. So a lot of people are upset about seeing the White House kind of torn down to look like this under this current administration. Whereas up top it was kind of pristine, green, luscious and more. The UFC fight's gonna cost $60 million to build. That's not being out of your money. That's from the ufc. And then the ballroom is going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. That's also allegedly not coming out of your funds. But it is looking like this right now. And many people say that this is just an accurate representation of the country today.
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Let me know.
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Spread the word. Follow along for more.
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So what do you think when you see that picture of what it looked like before Trump, which is like a kind of beautiful stately building and now it's a giant hole in the ground and a giant like carnival ride looking thing? That's going to be where people are going to fight for the President's pleasure.
B
Okay. There's no way he's going to leave that up. It looks like crap. And, you know, this big thing where, you know, presidents have always for power, you know, they do fights, they attend events like that, athletic events, go all the way back to the Romans. I mean, you can go all the way back.
A
Yeah, but. But that's what Trump is trying to do. He's trying to impose himself as a Caesar, like, figure we don't want an emperor. I assume you don't want an emperor.
B
No, no.
A
Okay. That's what he's trying to do here. He's trying to liken himself to an old Roman emperor where the gladiators will fight and I determine who lives and
B
dies, you know, But, I mean, that's been going on through all of time. A long time.
A
That has not happened in the United States. We have not had a cage match in front of the White House ever, in the history of this country.
B
Yeah, I asked about that, and he said he liked it. He kind of liked the idea.
A
But does he even watch ufc?
B
No, but he has on tv. Watched that thing going up. He said it could be kind of interesting.
A
I used to be a massive UFC fan. I used to watch every pay per view. I used to go to, like, two or three fights a year wherever.
B
I remember you used to watch some of those with your dad when you were younger.
A
Yeah, back in the early days. UFC, literally, like 1, 2, and 3. But I, and, and again, I don't, like, have any trouble with it as a sport. That's totally fine, but you're getting into the weeds of this thing. This isn't just him putting on a fight for everybody. It's him making potentially tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars off of a stock trade that Dana White, the president of ufc, is also in on. It's. It's just another big corruption pool.
B
Big circus. Yeah.
A
He doesn't actually care about the fight, you know, other than the optics of him sitting ringside as these guys are knocking the out of each other. For him to, like, applaud and that.
B
That's coming up. It's like Sunday night, I think, isn't it?
A
No, I don't think it's Sunday. Is it? I thought it was in July.
B
Oh, is it in July? I thought it was coming up. I don't have my phone to Google.
A
Let me see. I'm pretty sure it's in July.
B
I swear I thought I saw on tv. It's coming up.
A
I don't think so.
B
What's it called? Are you Googling?
A
Yeah. Oh, no. The historic UFC Freedom250 event at the White House is scheduled for Sunday, June 14th. Holy shit. Coinciding with Flag Day and President Trump's 80th birthday, the fights will take place on the South Lawn and will be broadcast live starting at 8pm so that's
B
a week away, right?
A
Yeah. Not this coming Sunday, but the next.
B
That's why that big structure's up. I gotta get it out.
A
Do you think? Now, let me ask you this. With regard to the big structure and everything, clearly the fight's going to be outside, just people sitting around it in chairs or whatever. He claimed that because that assassin got into the White House correspondence dinner, he needs his secure ballroom. It's for the security of the President.
B
Right.
A
So why do you think he's going to attend this event outside, not in a secure ballroom, if he really needed that security?
B
Yeah, that's. How are they even going to protect him outside? They won't.
A
Right. So what I'm getting at is him saying that he needs the secure ballroom because of the assassination attempt at the White. What are you eating?
B
A Twix. A Twix.
A
I'm just saying, the. Him saying, I need all day. Okay.
B
I haven't ate all day.
A
Product placement there. Him saying that he needs the White House ballroom for security measures because of the failed assassination attempt at the White House Correspondence center is a fucking lie.
B
You can see that, trying to tell me that. I understand what you're trying to tell
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me, but you can see it, right, that it is very clearly alive. He's going to show up to this UFC sitting outside. Who knows who's out there?
B
That big structure going all the way across, though, aren't they going to enclose that?
A
No. And that's a huge thing that I think Joe Rogan was talking about this, that it's like, fighting outside is never good for fighters because it's like, whatever. The weather is, like, there can be bugs, weird lights, whatever. It's never good. And he's like, if they wanted to do this, they should have had it inside somewhere. But Trump is a fucking maniac and is like, no, do it in front of the White House.
B
I wonder who guy who is guiding him in these decisions.
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Money, that's. It's only money. All of these things.
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He.
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When he says, like, oh, we should have a UFC at the White House, and you know what? I'll buy UFC stock. Everything he does is a grift. He is stealing money from all of us. Illegally doing insider trading just out in the open now and nobody's doing about it.
B
We'll see. We'll see. If that's enclosed for security. It's not gonna be enclosed.
A
No, they've already said it's not. That structure they're building is to basically, like, put the lights on so the lights will shine down into the ring, will be, like, in the middle of it, the octagon.
B
It will be interesting.
A
Yeah. I didn't realize it's coming up in a week and a half. Oh, my God.
B
I saw it on TV today when I was watching TV a little bit.
A
Do you think there will be another assassination attempt at the event?
B
I don't know.
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Fingers crossed.
B
Could be. Oh, that's not nice.
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I didn't say which way. I was going with that.
B
That's not nice.
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Just said fingers crossed, didn't say which way. All right, I have one more clip for you. This is Marco Rubio lying his fucking ass off about Trump falling asleep. Here we go.
K
And what American farmers grow and produce has a fair shot to be sold around the world on issue after issue. That's been the case. You talk about foreign aid reforms. This is not our money. This is taxpayer money.
H
Secretary Rubio, have you been at more than one meeting where President Trump has fallen asleep?
K
That's false. That's false. I've never seen him fall asleep. On the contrary, the guy doesn't sleep, which is a big problem because he calls me at 2 in the morning. He calls me at 5 in the morning, and, you know, I like to sleep a little bit. Maybe not 12 hours or. But at least six. So he works the other day, he was at the oval office until 30pm, 12:30am I don't know what you're talking about.
H
Cyberbio. I'm going to show you in a moment a video that shows you just lied to Congress.
K
Oh, okay.
H
So this is a video of a Cabinet meeting, literally from last month, where Donald Trump is sleeping. While you are talking, please show this video.
K
Coalition of countries that line up behind the peace deal, behind the board of peace. And it's still an. Every day is a challenge, but it's been driven personally by the President. It's the reason why we're involved in this whole Ukraine, Russia conflict. That's not our war. It's not the president's war. This war started. It never would have happened if you'd been president. But this war is going on, and the President is trying to end it.
H
You are literally talking about issues of war and peace. And Donald Trump is sleeping right next to you.
K
No, he's not.
H
If Donald Trump cannot stay awake at these important meetings where the cameras are rolling, imagine what he's like when the cameras are not there. So I'm going to ask you, have you been at classified meetings where Donald Trump has fallen asleep or trouble staying awake?
K
I've never been at any meeting where. And the things you're showing me now, he was not falling asleep. So you're lying again.
H
You're lying consistently to Congress. You're lying to Congress. Secretary Rubio. So I'm going to show you another video in a moment. The president's inability. The president's inability to stay awake on the job has caused other countries to perceive him differently. They mock him. They see he is weak and he is feeble.
A
Okay, so there's Marco Rubio shown a video of Trump sleeping next to him, and then he says he wasn't asleep. Why do you think these Republicans, like, do you think Trump has blackmail on Rubio? Why is he just like. We all see the video and he's openly lying about it?
B
No, he's just loyal. The way there were loyal people around Biden that took over for him, including his wife. And they said that his mental decline was no big deal when it was. And we all know that he couldn't walk. He was asleep a lot, too, but he had his loyal people around him, too.
A
But remember when he had the debate against Trump and it was clear something was wrong?
B
Yes.
A
Within a couple of days, he pulled out, because we all saw it. It could no longer be denied. We all saw it. And even the Democratic Party was like this. We got to get this guy out of here. With Trump, it's different. We are all watching him fall asleep in all of these meetings. Rubio sitting right next to him in that fucking video and lying directly to Congress saying, no, he wasn't asleep. We see it. He's asleep. He jolts awake.
B
I think both. Both ways it was. People were around that were around Biden, and now they're around Trump. They protect him till the very end.
A
But what. What are your thoughts on that? You think he's asleep in that video?
B
I see him slowing down a lot more. I do. I see the decline. I do.
A
Right, but do you see him falling asleep in these videos?
B
That one was hard. I got my glasses on and I looked up close. I have.
A
He literally is, like, hunched over like this. And then I know he wakes up in the middle of the thing. So you're saying you're seeing him decline. Do you think that's a good person to have as president?
B
He has people around him that are telling him also things.
A
People around him are like Bill Pulte,
H
the new
A
Secretary of National Intelligence.
B
Vance is there. Rubio is there. We've got strong people around him.
A
Rubio is lying to Congress. You just saw that. Vance is a idiot who will go whichever way the wind blows. He doesn't have strong people around him. He has very weak people around him who will do whatever he wants.
B
I don't. I don't quite see it that way.
A
Okay, well, that was the last clip I had.
B
Okay. That was a real zinger you do.
A
You did say he. You can see him declining.
B
I see him getting more tired as. He's getting more tired.
A
He's asleep in these videos.
B
We all get a little tired as we get older.
A
You always throw back to Joe Biden. Remember back to Joe Biden, how you felt about him when he started to show signs of mental decline. Get him to fuck out of there. Right.
B
He should not be our president at that time. Okay, but they could have pulled the. What is it called, the 25th or whatever, and they didn't. Sure.
A
Right. But they can do that on Trump, too. I'm not talking about what they're going to do. I'm talking about your feelings on it with Biden. You felt like he shouldn't be president when you saw significant signs of mental decline. You're seeing that now with Trump.
B
Do you think he should be president? I think I saw with Biden a lot more. Falling all over the place, not being able to get up, not being seen in public for long periods of time.
A
Trump is doing that right now.
B
I see Trump in the news all the time.
A
No, he hasn't been seen in public in, like, six days since he went to the hospital.
B
That was for like a checkup on his teeth or something, they said.
A
Right. So they said. But he hasn't been seen in public since then.
B
Time will tell.
A
Yeah, but I'm asking you your thoughts on this.
B
Yeah, he's getting older. I do see some of it. Yes, I do. Yeah.
A
And, and. But you still think he should be president, whereas with Biden, you didn't at
B
this point in time. Yes, I think he's okay.
A
All right, well, that wraps up our Wednesday show. Thank you, mom, for joining me. I love you for doing this. I. I really do feel like every episode, you're getting closer and closer. Every time we have these conversations and I'm showing you videos or whatever, we're talking about, you seem to be more against Trump, more against the decisions he's making. The thing, all three of the things I showed you today, you said you saw a decline in Trump. When I showed you the sleepy video, you said you didn't like the White House, how it looks now with the big UFC arena and the giant hole next to it, and you don't like his new head of National Intelligence.
B
If I would have had more time today, which I didn't, and I'll tell the viewers why in a minute, but I would have Googled what did Trump do good today? I'm going to try to find that next time on Google.
A
Okay.
B
So, yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and tell everybody what we've been doing. Bob's been gallivant in a little bit. We didn't want to, but we had to. He had. I had to take him to er. He had a urinary tract infection that we didn't know, and he became a little crazy. So we got that cleaned up, we got our meds, and we're back home now. And he just got home about two hours ago. So he's in the other room eating his shrimp and being good. And. Yeah, and thanks for all the DMs are still coming in all over. And I tell him, you got to get stronger so you can get back on. And he said he will.
A
All right, we'll see. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us. We will be back on Sunday with another episode. I think Haley is back by then.
B
Haley needs to pull her way. She will be back on Sunday.
A
Pull her way.
B
She's been gallivanting way too long now.
A
So I think it'll be the three of us on Sunday. And then. Jesus, I did not realize. Only a week from that Sunday, the ufc.
B
Yes.
A
From the White House is going to be happening.
B
You think we could watch that together and give comments or not? Would that be too hard? Probably be too hard.
A
We couldn't. I don't think we can broadcast a UFC on our channel.
B
I think that's cool. Well, we can talk about it after.
A
Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about it.
B
And, oh, one thing tonight, too, is the big basketball game in New York. You know, spurs versus the Necks. Yeah. And they were saying tickets just to walk through the front door just to go in or $4,000 each ticket. And. Yeah, that's expensive.
A
Yeah, it's going to be a good one. They're both really good teams. And you have in Victor Wemanyama, maybe the. The greatest basketball player that possibly could ever live.
B
I know. We're going to be watching it. Your dad's going to be watching it.
A
Oh, God, I wish I could watch it. But instead, I'll be watching Love island episode two. It just started last night. That also reminds me, I must say, our lives on Sundays are going to shift times. They will probably likely shift to 4pm PST for the duration of Love island, which is about another six weeks so that I can do my other podcast about reality tv.
B
What time is that for me?
A
What do you mean?
B
Sunday Night Live.
A
What time is that for me be 6pm for you?
B
Okay. I could probably do some of those.
A
Okay.
B
Okay.
A
Well, we'll be back this Sunday with another episode, another live. Thank you for joining us. And thank you, mom, for doing this. You're getting very close.
B
I love you, Chad. Love you, Heidi.
A
Tell Dad I love him also.
B
I'll tell him. All right. Bye. Bye.
Podcast: The Necessary Conversation
Hosts: Chad Colchin ("A"), Mom ("B"), plus various video clips
Theme: Family therapy through politics—a liberal son and his right-leaning mom confront the increasingly surreal MAGA era, focusing on current cultural and political controversies, including Trump’s influence, the intertwining of sports and politics, and general right-wing spectacle.
This episode sees Chad and his mom exchanging viral videos and news clips, each representing different ends of the political spectrum, to spark discussion about the latest developments in Trump-era America. Key topics include the bizarre LA mayoral race featuring Spencer Pratt, the Trump-branded State Fair and its music act cancellations, a new Trump-installed Director of National Intelligence with a questionable background, the construction of a UFC cage at the White House, and concerns about Trump’s mental fitness.
The tone is both irreverent and exasperated, weaving between genuine attempts at understanding and sardonic mockery—all couched in familial banter.
(00:12 – 06:36)
“Spencer Pratt is an idiot reality TV star just like Donald Trump ... He’s never had a job. He’s an idiot. He is a rich kid idiot. Just like Donald Trump.”
—Chad (04:21)
(06:48 – 10:09)
(10:11 – 13:41)
“Do you know how stupid you have to be to cheer that? ... You do a transfer to that person. That person ain’t got no business experience, have never run a company, don’t know a P&L, ain’t got no investment, money in debt, bad credit, and they just go, you, you do a transfer to that person.”
—Brandon Tatum (11:08)
(14:21 – 21:53)
“That is the person that’s going to be the Director of our National Intelligence Program... Thanks convicted felon Donald Trump for making us feel so much not safer, I guess, including the young.”
—Video Clip Commentary (16:27)
“Now you have a guy ... accepting this weird award where they’re basically saying he has sex with young people. Now he’s the head of our National Intelligence.”
(22:08 – 29:08)
Aaron Parnas Clip: Shows before/after images of the White House, which now includes a giant outdoor UFC cage structure (“Optimus Prime looking thing”) and a construction pit for a ballroom.
“A lot of people are upset about seeing the White House torn down to look like this ... it’s just an accurate representation of the country today.”
—Aaron Parnas (23:27)
Discussion:
(29:39 – 34:32)
(29:39 – 35:47)
“You are literally talking about issues of war and peace. And Donald Trump is sleeping right next to you.”
—Congressional Video (31:02)
(35:47 – End)
This episode distills the current political and cultural anxieties of the Trump era through the lens of an intergenerational family debate. It’s a rapid-fire, sometimes absurd rundown of real-world political spectacle, internet virality, and shifting partisan loyalties, all playing out in a single family. The discussion offers a unique, unfiltered way to catch up on the underlying chaos behind the headlines.