
Maureen Callahan is joined by celebrity makeup artist Tim MacKay for a full breakdown of Kim Kardashian's Hulu series 'All's Fair,' which scored a 0% on rotten tomatoes. They also deliver a scathing review of Gayle King's confusing hair style choices as well as a full dissection of another insufferable episode of 'The Morning Show.' Maureen held no punches when talking about Jennifer Aniston's character, the unrealistic storylines, and the absurd dialogue. Then Maureen zeroes in on 'Golden Bachelor' OG Gerry, exposing the alarming details of his past, after his ex-wife Theresa Nist revealed a disturbing statement he made to her during their short-lived relationship. Remi: Go to https://shopremi.com/NERVE and use code NERVE at checkout for 55% off a new night guard plus a FREE foam gift that whitens your teeth and cleans your nightguard. Aware House: Visit https://awarehouseshop.com/discount/THENERVE & use code THENERVE for 15% off your first order. Vandy Crisps: Get 25% off you...
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It takes me four beers just to.
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Hi, Maureen. Thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited to be here for a Little Miami edition of the Nerve.
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Little Miami. Yeah. You're looking very tan and rusted and glowy. What's your secret this Friday am Tim?
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My secret is sugared and bronzed because even though I'm going on a Cruise. I haven't left for the cruise yet and I don't want to shock everyone when I walk out in a bathing suit in my translucent skin.
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So, first of all, as a pale Irish woman, I would just like to say there's power in leaning in. There is power leaning in. But you've got to tell the troublemakers what cruise this is and what you're doing on the cruise. I love this so much. Yes.
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Oh. So I'm actually working. I'm so I got to like. Well, you couldn't call it work, but I can call it like both, like, work and vacation. But it's a Hallmark cruise, so I don't know if you've ever heard of this, but literally it's all the Hallmark stars. They get all their fans, which is like, it's the Norwegian Joy we're taking. So it's like one of their biggest boats, one of the biggest ships. Yeah. And it's. It's just going to be Christmas across to Mexico. We're going from Miami to Mexico and it's just going to be Christmas every day, all day. And I'll be getting the stars ready in the morning, every morning for the cruise, right before they go out. And then, of course, I'm sure there'll be, like, events throughout the day. So it's going to be, like, wild. I don't. I don't know what to expect. I'm just so excited for, like, the, the good energy and the jingle bells.
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I love this. And, Tim, you've got to tell us if you do spot or are approached by any troublemakers on this cruise. It could happen. It could happen. Now, you also had another troublemaker story you wanted to be sure to relay before we get into our little bitch session over here.
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Yes, thank you so much. Because I also just got back from Texas. I was in Austin, Texas, and I remember a few months ago on the Nerve, I talked about this. But for my very first appearance here on the Nerve, I booked a wedding in Austin, Texas. This wonderful woman named Lauren Amatuna, she messaged me after hearing me on here and she booked me for her brother's wedding. It was actually a gay wedding. And she said, you know, we just liked your vibe. Like, we just liked the vibe that you had. And it was actually like. It wasn't like a bunch of gay people there. It was just, you know, two grooms.
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Right, right, right.
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But they had a bunch of women that needed makeup done. So she hired me for their mom, for her, and it was just the most amazing thing Maureen, like, you would have thought I was a celebrity because of the Nerve. Like, just because of your show. Because I walked in and it was like, oh, my God, the makeup artist from tv. And it's because they put your show the Nerve on their TV when they watch it, and it's just so amazing. Like, they were the best. It was probably the best wedding I've ever worked, and I've worked, like, over 100 weddings. Everyone was so kind and so amazing. And it just goes to show what kind of audience that you have, because it's so true. I mean, I've gotten random emails to do jobs before, and they've never been as easy and as legitimate and quick as, like, this little trip to Texas I took last minute, and, well, not last minute, but, you know, so quick. And it was just amazing. So thank you for letting me say that to them.
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Oh, my God, I'm so happy. Congrats to Lauren's brother. Yes.
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John and Brock.
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John and Brock. They're on the wedding. And smart move hiring Tim. And, you know, I just. I love it because it's. I. I say this all the time. Like, I think hands down, the Nerve has, like, the best audience going, just in terms of being kind and smart and funny and incisive. So let's do this, Tim. Let's get into Kim Kardashian's new show with Ryan Murphy on Hulu. That is the reaction. It is called All's Fair, and it's Kim K. And Naomi Watts and Sarah Paulson, who is just like, full camp mode. Niecy Nash, Glenn Close, you know, it's so. They play all these high powered female divorce lawyers, and there are many things to say about this show. I have yet to get through the pilot episode or the initial episode because it is so bad. I am a fan of good, bad tv. This is so bad. But what really does it for me, Tim, is I don't think I have come across a deader soul. I mean, Prince Harry is now in the running, but Kim Kardashian for Dead Eyes, Flat affect zero. Seeming, like elevated. Like, nothing seems to bring this woman alive. Talk to me about your initial reactions.
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So when you asked me to check out this show, I, like, verbally groaned. Not. I mean, first of all, I was like, great. Something else to talk about on the Nerve.
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But also, I get it.
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I was like. Because I was going to avoid the show like the plague, and then just seeing the initial results, like, every media outlet is not even mincing their words. Like, I feel like all these different media outlets love to post Kim and everything, but right now they're like, this is the worst show in the world. Like, they're not even show. They're not sure if, like, this is on purpose because it's not even camp. Like, camp. Like, it's almost like they, like, on set, they were like, how can we make this as camp as possible? Which there, in fact makes it, like, not camp, which makes it just like, I don't know, just bad, right? It's almost like everyone on set every day was like, yes, Queen. Like, that's all I can hear is yes, Queen. All day long. It's just like, how can we make this yes, Queen. Everything has to be yes, Queen. Like, let's all be cool. Everything is so cool. And Kim looks stunning, but exactly like you said, like, she's not an actress. And it's just very painfully, painfully apparent when you're watching the show.
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I don't think she was cast to be an actress. I think she was sort of cast to be a version of herself. I mean, this is like a deep cut for younger audience members, but, you know, like a Zsa Zsa Gabor or Pia Zadora, you know, those were people who are always sort of cast as themselves. They weren't necessarily actresses, but they were characters, right? They were characters. They had Personas. And Kim Kardashian's actual problem is I think she is as dead in real life as she is on this show. And I also, like, I. Like, there are times when I see her in this episode and I'm like, wait, is that Kris Jenner? Because she has actually had so much work that she's. She's. She's. You can mistake her for a woman twice her age, like her own mother. I want to take a look at this from the red carpet recently. Sarah Paulson, who is one of Ryan's muses, and Sarah, I would say, back away from working with this guy because the dialogue in your mouth and the stuff that you are being asked to do on the show is embarrassing. It's embarrassing. She is asked on the red carpet by this ET correspondent what it was like to work with Kim Kardashian or how it was trying to mimic her. At one point, her character has to mimic her and listen for what Sarah does not say. Let's go. What helped you get into character when you were playing Kim K, though? Was it the hair and makeup and the costumes? Or did you watch clips like, did you get her mannerism by the time we were doing this section of the Show. We'd been working together for about five months, so. And also, I'm like, a society who's, like, been aware of Kim Kardashian for, you know, a lot of my life. So, like, you know, I had her nails. We got the nail color. I mean, it was a lot of the makeup. And I was like, oh, I look fabulous. I was like, oh, this is what it should be. I've done it wrong my whole life. Are you kidding me? You are fabulous. Thank you. But I'm just saying the makeup was like, oh, Kim was like, your hair should be dark. You should make it really dark. And I was like, I should. Okay, Sarah. First of all, Sarah Paulson is legitimate actress. Kim Kardashian is not. And what I took away from that was that she could only speak to the nails in the hair.
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I think so, too. I mean, it was all about the looks, right? But I think that's pretty much all. I hate to say, whatever. That's pretty much what Kim is known for, and that's all she brings to me.
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That's true. I don't think that's mean. I think that's true.
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I think what her problem is is that she's just living in this world where she's just so afraid to be embarrassed. She's so afraid to look stupid. She's afraid to make an ugly face. She's afraid to, like. She can't even laugh without, like, the.
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Ha ha, ha ha.
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Like, it's. It's all very performative because she needs to look. She's almost, like, performing as if there's constantly a camera snapping a picture at all times, and she wants every single movement and image to look amazing. And that's just not how an actress. That's not how that you can't act that way. So you can model that way, but you can't act that way. And I think she is. He keeps putting her. This is the second show he's worked with with Kim, right? And he keeps putting her with these other actresses that are much stronger than her.
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So.
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So I feel like American Horror Story was like, his little intro with her. He was kind of like, you know, let me start you off with this. And horrible. That was horrible to watch.
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I never saw that.
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Oh, my God. It was literally the most horrible season ever. But then this show, I think he was maybe gearing her up. Like, we're going to have you with Glenn Close. We're going to have you with some really strong actresses. So let's get you on this other show. First practice, and then maybe thought she'd be a powerhouse on this one, too, but I don't know. It didn't really work out. And it's more obvious because she's with Glenn Close and with these other actresses.
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Glenn Close, by the way, gotta be very careful. Her face is becoming a hardened mask. There is a closeup of her in episode one, and this is where I go. I go with Ryan Murphy. Like, he's got issues with women. He really does. Glenn looks like. She looks like. It's not flattering. And I love her as an actress. And it bums me out to say this, but I think that you are absolutely right about Kim. Part of the reason she is so wooden and is that, first of all, her face has had so many interventions and it's frozen. But secondly, there is a fear that she might, for a millisecond, be shot at an unflattering angle or have an expression that makes her look imperfect. And, you know, there's an old saying, when it comes to writing or any kind of producing, any kind of art, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I think that Kim is beyond help. We're going to take one other look at her on the red carpet being asked again, these softball questions are just. I feel embarrassed for both participants. Here we go. First, I just have to say congratulations. Every single person I talk to tonight has just raved about you, and they're all just blown away by your capabilities and your ability to juggle your entire life. What does that mean to you, knowing how highly they speak of you? Gosh, that is so nice. I just. I love these women. We. We learned a lot together. I learned a lot from them showing up and coming on set every single day and just seeing them work and seeing what they do. They are the best at what they do. That was the best lesson I could have learned. I just said I have. All I have to do is make sure I'm prepared. Make sure. Okay, okay. We could see. Stop her right there. It's. It's. It's enough. I mean, the question was not. They all raved about your. I thought the. The interviewer was going to say, you're acting. And they were like. They raved about your ability to multitask, which, like, please, she's got an army of assistants and executive assistants and what have you. But, yeah, like, they all said you.
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They all said you look really nice, and they all said that you were really nice. But she said it right there at the end. She was like, all I have to do is know my lines and be on time. Well, not really. There's a lot more that you have to do when it comes to acting. And I feel like, like, act. Yeah, like, really? And not being afraid to embarrass yourself or like. Or, like, make a stupid, angry face. I mean, Sarah Paulson has played some humiliatingly ugly roles.
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Yes.
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And, like, she's. It's just part of acting. If you're. If you want to be in this world, you can't just always play the most glamorous person. You will always have Ryan Murphy to, like, make sure that you look flawless in every shot. Like, you know, acting be damned. As long as your eyelashes are perfectly in place, you're not gonna have that with most directors. So I think unless she wants to work with Ryan Murphy forever. I don't. I don't.
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Yeah. And, you know, get with it because everybody knows if you're a beautiful actress, the only way to, like, get cred and an Oscar is to ugly yourself up.
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Yeah, yeah. It's just part of it. You have to become a character. You know, that's why you see character actors working so often, because, like, they're not a big star, they're not the most good looking person, but they can play so many roles that they. The most booked ever.
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Right. But this runs counter to Kim K's, like, reason for existing. It's not to be an accomplished actor, contribute to the art of theater, film or television or streaming. It's to be famous. It's just to be famous. That's it.
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So go to the red carpet. It's like, take pictures of the carpet and be like, look at what I've worked on. But, like, don't actually look at the work.
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Yeah, don't look at the work unless it's her ass or her face. Okay, Anyway, so moving on to Gayle King's wigs. I am dying to talk to you about her wigs because I don't understand. Tim, can you speak to me about. And we're only doing this because Gail's such an asshole, you know, from the minute she got back from outer space and was like, taking. She wouldn't take the criticism and was like, well, have you been. Have you been to space? You know, f. Off. So I have two questions for you, and we're going to look at a variety of her wigs throughout the years, including the highly unflattering red one that she wore into space. And I got to ask you, just the dynamics of keeping a wig affixed in zero gravity. But to begin. To begin, how is it that a woman of such means has wigs that, to the layman's eye, look so cheap and ratty? And secondly, how does one work out a wig that would work? I think. I think Gail's problem is that she has very crowded features. I think she's got a wider face and the features are all in here, and it gives a. It's strange for someone who's in news because what it telegraphs to me is narrowness, narrowness of thinking. Anyway, you take it. You tell me what you think.
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Well, it was funny because I. At first, when I saw that was like, in one of the possible topics for today, I was like, gail's wigs. And I immediately thought of the bob. And I was like, what? Let me just click on this link. And when I clicked on just, like, the most unflattering photos, it's literally an article about, like, some of her iconic hairstyles. And, like, every photo, it's like, are you trying to find her least flattering photos? Like, there was one photo where her eyes are half open, and I feel bad. I don't know if she has, like. I don't think she has a lazy eye or something, but, like.
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No, I think she has heavy eyelashes.
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I think she has. Yeah. And. But it just. In one of the photos, it looks like she maybe has an eye problem. And, like, she just looks off and the wig looks terrible. Like, are you. Is this, like, a mockery piece like this?
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No, we were literally. We literally are trying to solve this mystery.
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Yeah. No, it's wild. So I don't know. And it showed, like, six different photos and all of them looked bad. I don't know. Like, none of them looked styled properly. They looked kind of like they were dehydrated. Yeah. I don't know. And it's just funny that. Why make an article about her hair, like, when it's not something to kind of rave about.
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Well. Well, it wasn't necessarily an article. It was something that we were thinking about because she is in the news right now, and she is so full of herself and thinks she's so incredible. And I suspect that her team hates her because I think if her team really loved her, they would get her wigs in proper form for her head. Now, do you have any idea, Tim? I mean, I know makeup is your primary thing, but what do you think would go into making sure a wig stayed affixed in Zero Gravity in Outer Space?
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Well, I've. You know, when I'm doing makeup for clients. I've seen a few wigs be put on and I know she probably, it's probably glue. I know, I know they actually. I don't even know. I don't want to say that and be completely dead wrong. I know underneath they might have her natural hair braided if. If that's not her. If like sometimes they have the natural hair that comes out the top of the wig so that like you don't see the root or so you don't see like the, the line of the wig.
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Oh, interesting.
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Yeah. They'll pull just the top layer out of the, of the wig so that just the top layer is your real hair. So that might be what she's doing. But also the wig itself is either sewn in or glued on. But it's probably sewn in. Yeah, it's probably sewn into like maybe braids that she has underneath. But maybe she just goes a little too long without updating it. I don't know. They always look just kind of flat and dry and brittle.
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You're so right. You're so right. Well, that really, that, that. I'm very satisfied with these theories you've presented. Are you looking to support more Made in the USA manufacturing this holiday season? Whether it's home decor, clothing or unique gifts, it's become harder than ever to find high quality products that aren't made overseas. Small businesses in this country are struggling to stay afloat. And with the likes of Amazon and Target dominating the holiday market, it's no wonder that's where a warehouse comes in. Your one stop shop for artisanal, one of a kind gifts. With products from over 100 different vendors, they are deeply committed to supporting American makers and manufacturers. Their easy to navigate online marketplace lets you browse a wide range of independent creators so you can feel good knowing your purchase supports real people and ethical business practices. This holiday season, explore warehouses, gift guides and holiday collection featuring handmade ornaments, greeting cards, thoughtful gifts under $50 and more. Made in the USA favorites that make any gift truly meaningful. A warehouse believes that a thoughtful gift isn't about fancy labels or big brand names. It's about the dedication, creativity and care that go into every product. Join the growing community of shoppers supporting over 100 vetted small business makers. Head to a warehouse shop.com and use code the nerve for 15 off your first order. That's a warehouseshop.com code the nerve At Maurices, we're all about great jeans. You know, the ones that fit you just right, the ones that go from work days to weekends and everywhere in between the ones that simply make you feel good because you don't just wear jeans, you live in them. With 25 sizes, five lengths and six denim brands, you've got options and fit experts in every store. To make jean shopping easier, find great jeans starting at 29.90 in stores and@marisa's.com now onto our usual segment that I love doing with you, the Friday Hate Watch. We are talking about the morning show and we're talking about the most recent episode which we we missed last week because of Halloween. This one was directed by Miguel Arteta, a guy whose name I know because he's directed some of he's been with Mike White since the beginning. He directed Chuck and Buck. He directed the Good Girl, which was when Jennifer Aniston really began trying to be taken seriously as a dramatic actress. Beatriz at dinner. Then he did Enlightened Mike White's show with Laura Dern, which is incredible. Now we open this episode with Jennifer Aniston once again is just stalking around the halls of ubn and she literally says at the beginning of the episode, I am trying to hold together the last shred of the fourth estate, which again, to feed the ego of the star, we have to have her character alone trying to hold together journalism in Western democracies. Okay, fine. Now her father, she's trying to land an interview with Joe Biden. Her father, played by Jeremy Irons, that champion of incest per recent IG Real, gets caught drunkenly urinating on a statue of Paul Revere. This hits page six. It goes viral and Jen doesn't it doesn't occur to her that this is going to be a problem as she's pitching herself to Biden's team for a one on one. So let's take a look at this little pitch meeting and then we will discuss. And it won't all be softballs, but it will be fair. No Hunter, no Trump. Trial, abortion and the Supreme Court obviously are all on the table. And I would like 30 minutes. 10, 20, 12, 15, 12, 12 and a walk and talk. Tim, aside from just how unrealistic it is that Biden's people would be coming to Jennifer Aniston and she wouldn't be doing this remotely on Zoom. Talk to me a little bit about what she says is off the table and what that tells us about the writers room over at the morning show.
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Well, first of all, yeah, first of all, why is she by herself in this meeting? There's like so many people and she's by herself, like, handling the whole meeting by herself as anchor, as executive producer, as everything for this company. And, and yeah, it's just funny that, like, I think it's funny that, you know, it was so hard when Biden was president to even get a meeting with him because they were never sure when he'd be sleeping or when he'd be awake or like when he'd be, you know, able to show up and coherent. So this whole meeting that they're having is just kind of funny because it's kind of like it really. She just has to be on Biden's time whenever he was available and coherent. But yeah, so I didn't even like, hear though what she said. What were, like the. What was.
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She says, she says, and maybe perhaps, you know, on thought, I'm not giving the writers room enough credit because every major outlet that did try or managed to get an interview with Biden, for the most part, it would be like, hunter's off the table. She said Hunter is off the table. And she said the Trump trial is off the table, but abortion and the Supreme Court. I want to talk to him about that.
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Oh, of course. Yeah. Left. Yeah. All left leaning, you know, okays in the left leaning world. So of course that's what she was okay with talking about. I did, like, I know I don't want to jump ahead, but, you know, I liked her outfit. I thought she looked very good. I thought her. I loved her high heels. I loved the little black dress. Yes. I thought she.
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I loved it too. But Tim, you know what? She does. And I, I just thought of you immediately when she did it. And we're going to get to the biggest the matter. But you know what? The one is too, where she puts both palms on her stomach on either side of her tummy when she breathes. Breathing and patting oneself down. Okay. Then after this, she walks out of her office and she sees her father, who is now mired in this scandal for urinating on Paul Revere. He's on Bro. He's on the imaginatively named male podcaster show Bro.
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How did he get that? How did he just walk out of his daughter's office then walk onto another podcast that's in the same building, Right?
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And you just like walk right into the guy's studio without getting through, like, layers of assistance.
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And producers, they didn't have another schedule that day. They didn't have anything else. Like, they must have just ran into each other in the hall and was like, perfect. I actually have free Time in my.
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In my very busy schedule. Oh, and by the way, in the last episode, I finally. Your daughter and I had sex.
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Oh, yeah. Completely talked about that. That was just like threw that out there. And the dad's all part of it. He's like, you know, she's always been kind of like that. Like what?
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It was so uncomfortable. Like, nobody does having a conversation with a guy they just had sex with in front of their father.
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No.
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Oh, my God. And bro.
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I liked bro, but bro now is. I liked. I liked. I wanted him to be great because I want someone that's a little bit more moderate on the show. But like, he's just like, everything he says has to be like this. I'm Bro. And like everything is just sounds so like over the top and come on. 1, 2, 3. Like, I don't know, it's so cringe. Everything.
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He's bro.
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He's bro. He's playing the character.
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I guess he's really leaning in. I got to give it to this actor. I think he's a good actor and he's got charisma and he's really good looking and this, this loser character he's saddled with. Okay, so let's. So Jennifer Aniston again, we're like Marion Cotillard, who has been brought into this season and is a legitimate star. Both an actress and a star, not always the same thing. Is increasingly being sidelined this season. She's supposed to be the head of ubn, but Jennifer Aniston's the one who's stalking around on her six foot heels with her fist balled up and she's like rolling heads and taking names. This place going. And so she. So she sees her father on Bro's podcast and up we go in the elevator and here we go. Let's take a look.
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How does one get canceled nowadays? Oh, you ask me. I mean, this is a new thing. And I tell you it was. Stop.
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Cut it. Okay, we're off. What is going on in here? You finally made it to the show. You forgot to tell me. Your dad is brilliant. I. I thought you were going home.
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You've just interrupted a very interesting conversation.
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I'm sure it's. But let's go. It's time to leave. Oh, well, Mr. Hartman, it's been a pleasure.
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You're welcome back anytime, sir.
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I would love to get your take.
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On the right to bear arms.
A
Oh, the second amendment. No, no, no, no, no, no. One simple sentence, three confounding commas. We could do a whole series on this. None of this is happening. None of this is happening. Let's go. And you should have asked me before you put my father on your show. Oh, I didn't know I needed a permission slip. Just, you know, common decency, little respect. Decency and respect. Yeah, that's where it's coming from. You. Now, the takeaway I have from this not only again, one of Jennifer Aniston's acting ticks. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Is we. We can't talk about the second Amendment.
B
Of course, because he's right leaning. So he has to bring up in every piece of dialogue he has something that's like a right leaning, like, topic, like second amendment. And, like, I'm surprised he didn't bring up freedom of speech. But I will say about Marianne Cotiltard, I think I said right in the very first episode that we talked about her, I was like, villain, villain. It just like screams villain alert. Like, she was playing it from day one. Like, I'm Marion Courtiers. And then she's literally this episode, I think they brought up how she's the villain. She was like, yeah, I was brought into this company to cover up a story and it's just kind of like, okay, I don't know. So that was just funny. Just to touch on how you said she's being pushed to the side in this company. I just think it's funny that she ends up being a very confirmed villain when, like, we all kind of knew that was happening because she just played it like a villain. But I think she's a great actress. I just thought she came in, I was like, she has to be the villain.
A
She is. You know, she's also. She has what none of the stars, like, she has what Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon lack, which is old school movie star beauty and glamour and style. Very, you know, have you heard the rumor? This is. So this has been going around and I like it. I don't know if I believe how much of it. I believe J. Aniston wanted Marion Cotillard on the show as revenge against Angelina Jolie. Because the rumor was that Angie left Brad after hearing that Brad had an affair with Marion on the set of. It was a World War II drama they were doing and allegedly reportedly never confirmed knocked up Marion Cotillard and that's why her husband left her as well.
B
Oh, my God. Well, I didn't know any of that. I don't know any of that. That'd be wildly dramatic behind the scenes. But, I mean, hey, I wouldn't be.
A
Surprised because it tracks with, like, bringing her on and then, like, edging her out with, like, really lame dialogue and storylines like this. This episode ends with. It's just completely, completely unrealistic that after Billy Crudup suffers a major trauma.
B
That was wild.
A
Wild.
B
Why would his mother do that in front of him? Like, she. Why would she do that?
A
She wouldn't. She wouldn't.
B
If my mother did that while I came to visit and just died in front of unalived herself in front of me, I don't even know what I would do. Like, I don't even know if I'd ever come back from that.
A
It wouldn't happen. It wouldn't happen. But he gets in his. He. So he goes full Norman Bates, and he puts his head on her shoulder and he stays with her until it's midnight.
B
Yeah.
A
And then he gets in his car and he calls. We think he's going to call Bradley, but no, no, no. He calls the Marion Cotillard character, whose name I can never remember because that's how shitty the writing is on this show. And he goes, let's go skiing, you know? And, like, so they're up doing blow all night long. And since when are they such party pals?
B
And they're like. They're like in there. He's 57. I don't know. I was just getting, like. I got nervous vibes. I was like. Because cocaine. And like, I was like. They are just, like, ripping these lines and like, their late 50s. Well, she's not in her late 50s, but he's in his late 50s. That's so bad for you. I mean, I don't know. It was just wild behavior. It makes me a little uncomfortable watching cocaine use because it's just the scary drug.
A
I've always thought it was a scary drug. I'm really happy I never ever went near it because I think I probably would have loved it. Okay, one last scene. This is what I would call the Jennifer Aniston medicine, because it dovetails with much of Jennifer Aniston's own biography. Difficult mother, estrangement from the mother, father she could never please. And as she has said in multiple interviews, she has always felt dumb. Let's take a look. And the only person I actually feel like a failure around is you. Ever since I was a little kid.
B
God, isn't the statute of limitations up.
A
On your poor old child? Do you remember what you would do to me at dinner every night? You would quiz me on on current events and obscure literature. I was training your brain to think. And no matter what I said, trust me, I scoured the news. I scoured every book in your library. And no matter what, you just dismissed me.
B
I was testing you.
A
I never dismissed you. You just did it. You just did it right there. You just dismissed the idea of you dismissing me. Good thing you never went into the law because your arguments are not. Got it.
B
Not smart.
A
I know I'm not smart enough. I'm not academic enough. I'm just not enough.
B
It's true that in those days you are not exceptionally incisive.
A
All you wanted to do was impress your sycophantic coeds that you would bring over. Here's the brilliant professor saddled with this simple daughter. But you know what? I actually wasn't simple. I was a 10 year old. I would like to counter that by saying you, you can know by the time Your child is 10 that they might be simple or dull.
B
Yeah, no, I, I definitely agree with that. Like I've had to babysit some young kids that you're like, well, you're smarter than I am, frankly. And you're like nine years old. Yeah. And I will be honest, just because I'm a little bit of a softie, that, that scene touched me a little bit. Just because, like, I mean, I have an amazing relationship now with my mom and my dad. But I just like, I don't know, something that some of the things that she was saying I could kind of relate to just a touch. But then I thought about it and I'm like, this is just like a weird conversation to have so late in life. Like I just feel like between her and her father, like, I don't know, I just feel like it didn't seem all natural that they just kind of like had this big blow up fight about it. And she's like. And he got to explain why he never loved her. It's because it looks just like. You look just like your mother. And every single time. And she was like, oh, well, that's why. It just seemed like it just very convenient that we like we had the big outing right here. And then we also got the answer of why he was so bad to you your whole life. All right there. I'm like, from experience. That takes a lot of therapy.
A
It takes a lot of therapy. It takes a lot of, a lot of coaxing. And both parties have to be willing to have that conversation. Yeah. Not just one party willing to talk about it. The other party being able to listen And Tim, I'm going to say this is one of the reasons that you are a masterful makeup artist. It's not just technique. It's like knowing and understanding people. And thank you. You're so good at it. So we just love. And, you know, and you, and you saw you soften my, my sharp edges a little bit, which I love.
B
I love your sharp edges. And I, and I had so much fun turning you into Lady Frankenstein with your hairstylist Megan. We had so much fun and I loved it. You were just the perfect Lady Frankenstein.
A
Oh, thanks. You guys made me that way. And we can't wait to see you next week on the heels of your Hallmark celebrity cruise. You got to tell us all when.
B
You get back, we'll update. I can't wait to update you. And I'll be hopefully really tan and not spray tanned.
A
Be very careful.
B
Yes.
A
You know, with those UVA rays. Yes. Okay. We don't want premature aging, Tim.
B
No, definitely not. I have spf.
A
Very good, very good. All right, see you soon.
B
Thanks, Lori.
A
Safe travels. Bye. Bye. Oh, my God. How much do we love Tim? He's the best. Okay, coming up, a little bit of a bachelor, a golden Bachelor scandal update, and your feedback. We are back in a minute. We all want to make a healthy choice when it comes to snacking, but sometimes you just want the potato chips. Now there's a way to have both. Introducing Vandy Crisps, a healthy alternative to regular chips. What sets them apart? No seed oils. Vandy is made with three simple ingredients. Heirloom tomatoes, sea salt, and 100% grass fed beef tallow. And that tallow is packed with nutrients for your skin, brain and hormones, unlike seed oils, which studies have linked to inflammation and metabolic issues. Plus, vanity crisps taste great and they will leave you feeling satisfied and energized. No bloating, no sluggishness. If you are ready to give Vandy a try, go to vandycrisps.com Maureen and use code MAUREEN for 25% off your first order. 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So go ahead, stock up on fresh sneakers from your favorite brands or try those boots you always secretly knew you could pull off. Find the shoes that get you at prices that get your budget. At DSW stores or@dsw.com let us surprise you. We are back. Now, before we get to all of your incredible as always feedback, we gotta talk about, please, the Golden Bachelor. The OG Golden Bachelor. I am not really a viewer of the Bachelor, but for the Golden Bachelor, because it was such a new concept, I tuned in and I usually when I'm going to go into a show like this, I come in really towards the end because they always fill the backstory in. They always fill it in. This guy had a sob story for the ages. Now, his name is Gary, but he spells it Jerry, as in G, E, R, R, Y. And right there that tells you this guy is going to be a lot of work. Number one, and in my opinion, just my opinion, number two, things are not going to be as they seem. His name is spelled Jerry, but he pronounces it Gary. Why? Why? Okay, Now Jerry had a sob story when he came on, when he was selected as the first Golden Bachelor. And his story was that he was married to the love of his life for 43 years and they had moved into their dream retirement home and one month later she died of an infection. Now, Gary, I'm gonna want to say Jerry because like it's in the prompter is Jerry. Do you know what I mean? It's like my eyes are seeing something that my brain is being told, don't say this guy. His story is that he was so heartbroken after the death of his wife, love of his life, that he did not date at all. That he was single as it gets for like six years, seven years, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then ABC comes along and this franchise comes along and says, hey, what better way to reenter the dating scene at like 70 years old than on national effing television? And Gary says, gosh, golly gee, shucks. I mean, that seems like it, you know, like fantasy suites and effing, like, you know, contestants. Towards the end, when I'm down to the final two or three to see who I think is a better gym, sounds like real wholesome fun that's gonna set my broken heart afire. So already, you know, it's, you know, it's so the ma. The amazing thing about this season, the final two could not have been more diametrically opposed to the final two older, age appropriate women that Gary chose. One, I forget her name. She seemed like a lovely woman, a little bit scattered, but she had been her. She was a dancer professionally, and she had been a backup dancer for Prince for many, many, many years. My beloved Prince. And she. I think she then, towards the end of the show, sort of intimated that she had had some sort of affair with Prince. And this made her very enticing to Gary. I'm just going to call him Gary slash Jerry. He's such a loser. And then the other final bachelorette, golden bachelorette left, left standing, was a woman named Theresa Nist, who is from New Jersey and worked, like, in the financial sector. And her presentation was much more conservative, as befitting, you know, a woman from the east coast who works in the financial sector. Gary was really, you could tell, really attracted to, turned on by, tantalized by the former Prince backup dancer. And the idea that he could. I'm just gonna say it because this is really the subtext of the Bachelor, the golden Bachelor. The idea that he could have sex with a woman that Prince also had sex with was blowing the sky's mind. Okay, now he goes to dinner, final date, fantasy suite night with Teresa. I watched this like a forensic, like, homicide detective, this interplay, because Teresa was so excited to be at dinner with Gary slash Cherry. And she was so. It was really cute. It was really sweet. And he was really, you could tell, like, gutting it out. Like gutting it out and waiting to, like, run all the way back to the former Prince backup dancer. And then. And then. And you. And you could sort of see Teresa sensing his detachment, sort of like George Clooney in Gravity. He's, like going to detach and he's just going to float off into space. And she says to him, you know something that I'm really good at? I'm really good at making a lot of money. Gary slash Jerry's eyes went like this. Whoa, whoa. They lit up. He lit up like a Christmas tree. And in that Moment I said he's gonna pick her. He's not attracted to her, he's not falling in love with her. He's, he wants to be with this one over here. But Gary, that appeals to him. Now why does it appeal to him so much? Why does this guy at his stage in life, presenting as he does, full head of hair, 70 years old, you know, a visage that is a little bit weathered, but, you know, aging very well, good set of teeth, trim, has all the markers of a well to do older man. Something's off, something's off. Anyway, smash cut. He proposes to Teresa. She says yes, they get married, they get the People magazine spread, the GMA segments, etc. Etc. Within three months they announced they're getting a divorce. And the, the, the sense Juan got from Teresa was that she was a woman scorned and felt that she had been taken for a ride. Now the Hollywood Reporter does an expose on Gary Slash Jerry. Turns out Gary Slash Jerry wasn't a high end restaurateur as he had led ABC and the other golden bachelorettes to believe he had owned a restaurant like, like a modest one maybe back in 85, but since then had worked like installing hot tubs. Honest living, absolutely should take pride in that. But he didn't. He didn't. He, he exaggerated. Let's be generous and say he exaggerated what he did. Then the Hollywood Reporter talked to a woman who went by the name Carolyn. I don't believe this was Carolyn's actual real name. She only went by the first name in the piece. She said she and Gary Slash Jerry had dated for like six years and that he came on to her like within weeks of his wife's death. And at the time she was so swept off her feet that it didn't occur to her to ask why a very. A man who had been made a widower just weeks ago was coming on so hard and so fast. And then she says, Gary Jerry was like, you know what? You should move and come live with me. Now Carolyn had a job that was, she lived like five hours away. And Gary Jerry kept pressing and pressing and pressing and pressing. You got to move in with me. Come to me, come to me. So a year in, she comes in, she moves. Finally she moves, she, she leaves everything, uproots her life. And again, an older person like, you know, you've got a lot of roots, you know. Anyway, she gets there, Gary Slash Jerry starts laying down some ground rules. And number one is whenever they go out to eat, they're going Dutch. Unless it's like a special occasion in which he will be the big man and pay. And also, she's not cleaning the house to his liking. And also, also she's got to pay either into the rent or the mortgage. And he said, listen, s. You got to give me a grand a month. And this is news to her. And she's already given up everything, and she's there. So this is not a. This is a sinister person, in my opinion. And she negotiates that figure down to 850. And what's more romantic than that? And again, these weren't pragmatic conversations they were having per Carolyn in the run up to merging their lives and her giving up everything. No, he waited till she got there and, you know, and then the. The. The. The breaking point for her was his class reunion was coming up. And in all the stress of everything, Carolyn had gained 10 pounds. And he looked at her and he said, you're not coming with me. I can't take this to the high school. Re. So anyway, Gary slash Jerry's a liar, okay? He's a liar. And, you know, I. I would love, like, if his wife died so suddenly of an infection. And this is a real part of the biographical data that makes you America's first golden Bachelor. I would think that ABC Legal would at least like some more details about that. And I'm not saying anything, but, you know. So anyway, Gary slash Jerry is now out on his media tour with his memoir. And this book looks so ch. It's like the art department didn't even try. You know, it's just like they slapped a title on it. They slapped his face on it. And it's a really inopportune time for someone like this guy to be coming out with a memoir. I know Bachelor Nation is strong. I don't know how that translates into book buyers, but out here in these mean streets, you've got one Michelle Obama hawking her lookbook. You've got Cheryl Hines hawking her memoir. You've got Karine Jean Pierre. You've got Kamala Harris. You've got some heavy hitters who are making headlines. And he's getting lost in the noise, which is why I suspect he was happy to go on Tamron hall again. I don't know anybody who watches this show. Tamron hall, by the way, another one who, after Prince died, she said, guess what? I had a relationship with Prince. I had a secret relationship with Prince. He was a fan of mine. Prince in the later years. I think it was grim. Anyway, okay, so Gary Jerry goes On Tamron hall, just this Monday on November 3rd, day before election day. Again, you're getting lost in the noise, my man. You are getting lost in the noise. But here he comes. And listen to the intro that Tamron gives him and then the anemic audience reaction. Welcome back.
B
Thank you.
A
Welcome back to the show. Look at. You know, listen, I'll tell you, you still have. Have plenty of fans, even though the book delves into. I mean, you come in hot with this one a little bit. Little bit. Little bit. I'm just still a hick. Like, I'm out here. I. I've done the Golden Bachelor. I've done People magazine. I've done gma I've done Us Weekly repeatedly. I was the subject of a major Hollywood Reporter expose. This is like my favorite kind of expose. You know what I mean? And I've survived. Now I got a book out, and I'm like, back hot on the dating scene. And like, he's. And Taman's like, she. She gestures to the audience. She's like, here's your crowd. And they're like. And I love the. The. The. The. The signage above her on stage. Let's get lit with the exclamation point. Again, I don't see that audience as book buyers. And, you know, if I didn't watch the whole segment. But, you know, what the publishers love to do is give audience members at shows like that free books because, you know, you're going home with a book. Everybody gets the gift because they can add that into sales and hopefully goose you up onto the New York Times bestseller list. But Jerry, ever the gentleman, Gary Sahari. Gary, I won't blame the victim. It's not my fault. Gary tells Tamron about the way in which he's memorialized the night before his wedding to Theresa Nist, who, again, just seems like a lovely person. You know how he felt. He's such a good guy. Okay, here we go. Here we go. You talk about that Hollywood Reporter article that came out right before the finale that I mentioned to the audience where you said you'd never dated before since losing your wife. Toni, you write in the book, when I started giving interviews as the Golden Bachelor, I'd say I hadn't dated after Tony. I should have said I didn't date anyone who rose to the level of a forever partner after Tony was gone. Right. So in your mind, you're answering the question honestly.
B
Right?
A
And you were.
B
But the words are a different message.
A
Especially when the media is following you. Right. Okay. Tamarind, this is why you're stuck at like a 3pm day part on weekdays. You asked him a question in which he contradicted himself. Okay. He said he hadn't dated for six years after his wife died. And then he turned around and said, oh, guess what? I did. And I dated someone very seriously, to the point where she gave up her life, everything she knew, her home, and she moved five hours away to be with the likes of me. And then I pulled a bunch of on her and she left. And then she went and told the Hollywood Reporter, which good for her. Good for her. Warn the older women of America and anybody else Gary might be trying to get with on only fans or Raya, if Raya will even have him now. And then Tamarin goes, but in your mind, you were telling the truth, right, Tamarind? How do you know that? Are you in Gary's mind? Are you a mind reader? You don't know that I think this guy is a bad guy. Why don't you make some good TV and let that question hang out there and then press that guy on his inconsistencies, nay, his very lies. And what he did to Teresa, how he humiliated her in front of everybody after declaring that she was the one who mended his broken heart. Get out of here. Get out. And Jerry. Gary, Gary, Gary. On the COVID of that book. You see the COVID of this book, like in the airport or whatever, the reaction is going to be back away quickly. He's got like an Easter egg head. Like his head is like the size of the entire book cover. Whatever. Okay, Anyway, so Teresa has been standing up for herself. I'm just team Teresa, you know, Honestly, if I were Teresa, I would just like keep my mouth shut, go back to regular life, let this loser twist in the wind and. And pray for whoever else he winds up dating. Because I think this guy's very dark. I think this guy's very dark. When I tell you that these people always reveal who they are and they may be doing it with a smile and a little bit of a laugh and a like, haha, we're just kidding. Let's listen to Teresa talk about something that Gary said to her that struck her in the moment as a joke, but now maybe not. I finally went to his house and we took a walk around this lake called Pretty Lake. And we were coming to the end of it and he said, this is really bizarre. He said, you see that shed up there? I said, yeah. He said, well, that's where I'm gonna hide your body after I kill you and chop you up. I find that so unsettling. And I would be freaked the fuck out. And again, the wife of 43 years who, after one month after having moved into their dream retirement home, dies of an infection. Teresa, you're well rid of this guy. And just spill it all. Spill it all. Okay, now on to your email. Hi, Maureen. As I was watching the segment on Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter, Apple, I wondered, where's her brother Moses? Why don't we see him at all now on Instagram, I just posted for the Nerve at night in my carousel, a photo that Gwyneth put on her Instagram of her. Moses is in the middle. She's there. Demi Moore is there. And it looks like Amy Griffin's on the end. And you know, Amy Griffin again, you are the company you keep. And Amy Griffin, we believe here at the Nerve that she made up everything in the towel or most of the towel. And that the very real man who she dubbed as Mr. Mason, who she says violently, repeatedly raped her on school grounds when she was a child and threatened to knock all of her teeth out if she ever told. We think Amy's making it up. We hope Mr. Mason sues her onto Moses Martin, though. So what I have on very good authority is that Moses Martin is a lovely young man. Not only is he lovely, he is talented. He has musical talent. He is very photogenic. And he also has no interest in being famous. Smart kid. Okay, this is our. Regarding Kelly and Mark. Our segment on Kelly and Mark. This is from a troublemaker I will keep anonymous. I ran into Mark back in the 90s when he was a heartthrob on a All My Children. It was a small airport and we were in baggage claim where we were the only two there. Seriously small airport. I tried to talk to him and he was all caps. Four exclamation points. An prick. I was like Matteo. His name on amc. And he was only interested in his ride to some event. I have hated him ever since. All he could say to me was, where is my limo? As if I knew he's a complete prick. In 1999, another troublemaker, my best friend worked with a girl having an affair with Mark Consuelos. I've never looked at him the same way. Please don't use my name again. This is just a troublemaker report. Okay, Maureen, I have to say thank you for exposing all the shit about Bill Maher. He is the most disgusting pig of a man to grace our screens ever. I saw that he recently had Charlie Sheen on. So I thought I'd give it a listen Minutes in mar. Has to let everyone know. Oh my God. Has to let everyone know. It's not funny but like reading it. How much he likes jacking off. This time it was regarding one Angie Dickinson. That pervert can never just have a conversation. It all has to center on his goddamn parens small, I am sure penis. I listened to it for a few minutes and had to turn it off. Thank you for what you do. You're very welcome. It's my pleasure, truly. I especially enjoy all the information on the royals. Meghan Markle is especially vile bible and verse here at the Nerve. Hi Maureen. I take time off from my emails about Meghan Markle to tell you I've just finished Ask. Not that she loved it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. She says it's, it's, she, she, she's a born and raised Bostonian. Strikes hers. All true. It is. With Kennedy being announced as coming to Netflix starring Michael Fassbender, do you expect to be consulted? No, absolutely not. No. No. Ask not remains a dangerous narrative. You know, it awaits the right person to midwife it in that way. But anyway, that's it. That's it for our Friday edition of the Nerve. It flew. It flew. I can't believe we're. I can't believe we're done. We will be back here again tomorrow for the Mini Nerve. Remember, the Mini lives over on YouTube that begins streaming at 10am Eastern. So join all the troublemakers over there. And just a friendly reminder, you can always email me with your thoughts, feedback, suggestions, artwork, merch, ideas, prototypes@maureenevilmaycaremedia.com or DM me on Instagram at Maureen Callahan, writer, or at the Nerve show. And remember to subscribe to the Nerves substack. We are thenerveshow.substack.com and that will do it for your Friday edition of the Nerve. Oh, and another thing I've got to tell you, there's so much breaking all the time, like, oh my God. Okay, so now as part of you know, Megan Kelly now has her own channel on Sirius XM. What was once triumph on channel 111 is now the Megan Kelly Channel. And as part of Megan's podcast playlist, you can now listen to the Nerve every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 9am Eastern. Again, that's on SiriusXM channel 111, the Megyn Kelly Channel. And that'll do it for us. That'll do it for us. Join us back here tomorrow for the Mini and then next Tuesday for a full episode of the Nerve, where you will never guess what we're about to say next. With my job, I can't drink during the week. Weekends are a different story. After eight hours of this, I have earned my wine. You know what I'm saying? My family is a lot.
B
It takes me four beers just to.
A
Hang out with them.
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Episode: Kim Kardashian's Rotten Review, 'The Morning Show' Hate-Watch, and 'Golden Bachelor' Gerry's Creeper Vibes
Date: November 7, 2025
Host: Maureen Callahan
Guest: Tim McKay (Celebrity Makeup Artist)
This Friday episode of The Nerve dives headfirst into the absurdities and scandals erupting in pop culture—from the critical flop of Kim Kardashian’s new Hulu show All’s Fair, to loving takedowns of The Morning Show’s latest melodrama, and a deeply cynical look at the original Golden Bachelor Gerry (spelled “Gary,” pronounced “Jerry”), whose post-show revelations suggest some truly unsettling creeper vibes. Maureen and Tim bring trademark wit, snark, and brutal honesty, delivering what Maureen calls: “conversations no one else dares to have.”
[05:37] - [08:42]
“You would have thought I was a celebrity because of the Nerve. I walked in and it was like, ‘Oh my God, the makeup artist from TV!’” — Tim McKay (07:52)
[09:00] – [18:30]
“Very rarely will something make like zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes and have, like, esteemed critics… say, this is unsalvageable. It’s unwatchable.”
“I was going to avoid the show like the plague. Every media outlet is not even mincing their words... this is the worst show in the world.” (10:13)
“I don’t think I have come across a deader soul…I think she is as dead in real life as she is on this show.” — Maureen (10:56) “She’s afraid to look stupid. She’s afraid to make an ugly face… She’s almost like performing as if there’s constantly a camera snapping a picture at all times.” — Tim (13:44)
“She could only speak to the nails and the hair.” — Maureen (13:33)
[20:01] – [22:28]
“All of them looked bad…they looked styled kind of like they were dehydrated.” (20:44)
“It’s probably sewn in…maybe she just goes a little too long without updating it. They always look just kind of flat and dry and brittle.” (22:05)
[25:50] – [38:04]
“It’s so hard when Biden was president to even get a meeting with him… this whole meeting they’re having is just kind of funny…” — Tim (27:04)
“He’s bro. He’s playing the character…I wanted him to be great because I want someone more moderate but… so cringe.” — Tim (29:52)
“She has what Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon lack… old school movie star beauty and glamour and style.” — Maureen (32:59)
“Why would his mother 'unalive herself' in front of him?...It wouldn’t happen.” — Tim (34:17)
“It takes a lot of therapy…both parties willing!” — Tim (38:04) “You soften my sharp edges a little bit, which I love.” — Maureen (38:36)
[38:59] – [57:20]
“She says…‘I’m really good at making a lot of money.’…He lit up like a Christmas tree. …He’s not attracted to her… but that appeals to him.” (Golden Bachelor segment)
“He’s a liar… in my opinion, just my opinion, things are not as they seem.” — Maureen (Golden Bachelor segment) “She negotiates that figure down to $850 a month. What’s more romantic than that?” (Golden Bachelor segment)
“He says he didn’t date for six years after his wife died. Then he turns around and says, ‘guess what? I did.’” — Maureen (55:35) “Tamron… are you a mind reader? You don’t know that.” — Maureen (55:38)
“You see that shed up there? …That’s where I’m gonna hide your body after I kill you and chop you up.” — Quoted by Maureen (56:59) “I find that so unsettling. And I would be freaked the fuck out.” — Maureen (57:15)
“I think this guy’s very dark. I think this guy’s very dark. When I tell you that these people always reveal who they are…” (57:16)
[57:20] – [64:00]
“I don’t think I have come across a deader soul…I think she is as dead in real life as she is on this show.”
— Maureen Callahan (10:56)
“It’s almost like on set, they were like, ‘how can we make this as camp as possible?’ Which, in fact, makes it not camp.”
— Tim McKay (10:21)
“They always look just kind of flat and dry and brittle.”
— Tim McKay (22:28)
“This is a sinister person, in my opinion.”
— Maureen Callahan (Golden Bachelor segment) “You see that shed up there? That’s where I’m gonna hide your body after I kill you and chop you up.”
— Teresa recalling Gary (56:59)
“He is the most disgusting pig of a man to grace our screens ever.”
— Listener email, read by Maureen (after 60:00)
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Tim’s Hallmark Cruise/Wedding Story | 05:37–08:47| | Kim Kardashian’s “All’s Fair” Rotten Review | 09:00–18:30| | Sarah Paulson on the red carpet (Notable Quote/Clip) | 12:50–13:42| | Gayle King’s Wigs Dissected | 20:01–22:28| | “The Morning Show” Hate-Watch Begins | 25:50 | | Bro Podcast + Sidelining of Marion Cotillard | 29:07–34:58| | Billy Crudup Trauma & Absurd Plotlines | 34:15–38:04| | Golden Bachelor Deep Dive | 38:59–57:20| | Gary’s “Joke” to Teresa (Memorable Quote) | ~56:59 | | Listener Feedback & Email Gossip | 57:20–64:00|
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