LIVE! Golden Globes Night At The Nerve

Summary

Summary: The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

Episode: LIVE! Golden Globes Night at The Nerve (January 12, 2026)

Main Theme:
This special live episode of The Nerve with Maureen Callahan is a real-time, irreverent, and often biting pop culture roundtable, centered on the 2026 Golden Globes night. Alongside celebrity reporter Rob Shooter and makeup artist Tim McKay, Maureen and her crew offer smart, skeptical commentary on Hollywood’s big awards, red carpet moments, and the state of modern celebrity—all with sharp wit, snark, and a healthy dose of skepticism. Regular banter with the show's live chat (“troublemakers”) and a running commentary on streaming culture, fame, and Hollywood self-importance create a brisk, engaging listen for pop culture fiends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Vince Gilligan Meltdown & Celebrity Set Meltdowns

• (02:38) Maureen brings up reports of "Vince Gilligan," famed for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, allegedly having a meltdown on set:
  • “This isn’t fucking Stranger Things. Get real. I’m Vince Gilligan. Say my name.” (Maureen, 02:38)
• Panel draws parallels to other on-set celebrity meltdowns (Tom Cruise, Christian Bale), noting such outbursts are more visible now due to tech and social media.
• Rob observes, “Truth and authenticness is a good thing.” (Rob, 03:34)

2. Red Carpet and A-Lister Arrivals—Live Commentary

• As the livestream progresses, the trio comment live on celebrity arrivals, style choices, and the staged "freshness" of stars.
  • “A lot of the stars actually get a suite in the hotel…and so they get dressed at the hotel and just drive around the block and then come back down the red carpet. So a lot of them look so fresh because literally ten minutes ago, she was in a makeup artist.” (Rob, 16:17)
• Selena Gomez and Nikki Glaser discussed for their old Hollywood glamour and calculated “relatable” image choices.
• Fashion insights, practical makeup tips, and a recurring theme: stars want to look pretty, but rarely want to look funny or off-brand.

3. The Films and Performances: Who Should Win—And Why They Won’t

◼ George Clooney in “J. Kelly”

• Mixed review, with Maureen noting, “He loves to go…school real journalists on how to be real journalists, which I love. I think he should get the Globe for that.” (Maureen, 05:13)
• Panel agrees that Clooney sees journalism as nobler than acting but falls short: “The problem is, George, you ain’t a journalist.” (Rob, 05:40)
• Maureen pokes fun at the film’s self-seriousness—“If you have to tell people why your movie is great, then your movie failed.” (07:15)

◼ Ethan Hawke in “Blue Moon”

• Glowing praise for Hawke’s performance as Lorenz Hart.
  • “Blown away…this is my favorite movie of the year.” (Rob, 08:43)
• Discussion about physical transformation, subtlety in acting (“You totally believe he’s four, five, whatever. You totally believe it.”—Rob, 09:37)
• Maureen and Rob lament that Hawke is overlooked because he refuses to “play the game” of notoriety and campaign:
  • “The more hoary, the more pushy, the more vulgar you are, the more likely you are to win…Ethan Hawk’s too cool for this.” (Rob, 12:16)
• Anecdote about Hawke's wit and humility: “It’s a testament to how much I love your acting that I didn’t give a shit.” (Ethan Hawke, quoting his speech, 14:11)

◼ Timothy Chalamet (“Timmy”), Awards Politics, and the Fame Machine

• Hot topic: Timothée Chalamet’s relentless pursuit of awards and high-profile relationship with Kylie Jenner.
• Analysis: “I think he’s got a trump card this year with Kylie Jenner…as controversial as she is, she’s an elevator. She’s elevated his press game.” (Rob, 12:40)
• Panel is skeptical of career moves motivated by narrative over talent.

4. Media & Podcasts—Who’s In and Who’s Out

• First-time Golden Globe “Best Podcast” category critiqued for being more about money, analytics, and self-promotion than quality.
  • “You had to apply. And you had to pay. There was a fee.” (Rob, 26:29)
• Maureen lampoons Mel Robbins for peddling legal disclaimers, Meghan Markle for being “snubbed,” and Chelsea Clinton for hosting a supposedly lackluster health podcast.
• The performative, sometimes disingenuous side of influencer and podcaster culture gets roasted (“Don’t listen to this woman.” —Maureen on Mel Robbins, 23:20).

5. Red Carpet Fashion: Authenticity vs. Strategy

• Panel tracks style choices for Nikki Glaser, Kate Hudson, Rose Byrne, Ariana Grande, and others—decoding what each look means about career, branding, and fame.
• “When someone's almost too attractive, there’s only so funny they can be…usually it’s the person that just kind of looks like an everyday Joe that really has you howling.” (Tim, 19:30)
• Commentary on trend toward "Old Hollywood" styling (Amanda Seyfried, Julia Roberts), and absence of diamonds as a gesture toward relatability in a tough economy.

6. The Shifting Sands of Celebrity and Fame

• Panel suggests Hollywood is “losing the plot” and struggling to adapt to a culture that is more digital, decentralized, and less invested in the glamour of yesteryear.
  • “YouTube channels or digital lanes or content creators…Hollywood is, you know…Oscars are leaving ABC. They’re going to YouTube.” (Maureen, 32:04)
  • “Looking back is probably never always the answer.” (Rob, 71:28)
• Award shows are buying and selling influence: “The people that own the Globes own all the trades…It’s like the money’s just going round. It’s almost like money laundering.” (Rob, 60:02)

7. Sarah Jessica Parker and the Carol Burnett Award: SJP’s Speech and Its Discontents

• Panel reacts in horror to SJP’s receipt of the Carol Burnett Award, calling it “heresy.”
• Contrasts SJP’s earnest, overwrought speech (“It’s a trophy. Get over yourself.”—Maureen, 49:27) with Carol Burnett’s legendary comedic genius.
• Mockery of SJP’s self-seriousness and lack of self-awareness:
  • “She made a show about sex, and she’s up there like, she’s accepting, like, a Presidential Medal of Honor.” (Maureen, 54:38)
  • “There was a lot of really nasty, mean girl behavior on [Sex and the City]. And Sarah just seems to ignore all that. And she thinks they created this utopia…” (Rob, 53:05)
• Repeated tidbits about SJP's tics and the cultural shortcomings of And Just Like That.

8. Live Chat “Troublemakers” & Audience Banter

• Frequent, playful engagement with the show’s live chat—e.g., speculation about where Stedman is, Kris Jenner orchestrating Chalamet’s campaign, and whether Meghan Markle can “buy a table.”
• Use of chat to gauge real-time audience takes on fashion, celebrity pairings, and Hollywood absurdities.

9. Unfiltered Commentary: Candid and Comic Critique

• Mockery, gossip, and sharp one-liners abound:
  • “Gold lame, sleazy, sleazy, sleazy, sleazy, sleaze.” (Maureen on Walt Goggins, 45:47)
  • “If you ask a question to which the answer can be ‘no,’ you shouldn’t ask that question. Like people that have questions in their titles, don’t do it.” (Rob, 29:08)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Industry Authenticity:

  • “Now I think truth and authenticness is a good thing.” (Rob, 03:34)

• On George Clooney’s Relationship to Journalism:

  • “George, you ain’t a journalist.” (Rob, 05:40)
  • “We have a higher standard here at The Nerve—our real talk about fake people.” (Maureen, 06:06)

• On Award Campaigning:

  • “The more hoary, the more pushy, the more vulgar you are, the more likely you are to win. It’s an awful, awful truth.” (Rob, 12:16)

• On SJP’s Earnestness:

  • “It’s a trophy. Get over yourself.” (Maureen, 49:27)
  • “She made a show about sex, and she’s up there like, she’s accepting, like, a Presidential Medal of Honor.” (Maureen, 54:38)

• On Fashion Strategy:

  • “Jennifer Aniston has not changed her hair in 40 years. Liza Minnelli’s hair is her logo. If it’s your brand, stick to it.” (Rob, 25:55)
  • “Brooches are big. On Timothy. Timothy will have a brooch.” (Rob & Maureen, 71:58)

• On Hollywood’s Changing Media Landscape:

  • “Oscars are leaving ABC. They’re going to YouTube. That’s a turning point.” (Maureen & Rob, 32:04, 32:22)

• On Chalamet’s Image:

  • “I think he’s trying to temper his utter desperation for these awards by dressing down a little bit.” (Maureen, 76:42)

• Comic Zingers:

  • “Gold lame, sleazy, sleazy, sleazy, sleazy, sleaze.” (Maureen, 45:47)
  • “You know what happened? Acne. She had an acne problem. And when that clears up, you know what tends to happen? Your nose reconstructs itself.” (Maureen on cosmetic surgery, 62:44)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------| | 02:38 | Vince Gilligan meltdown & authenticity | | 04:39 | George Clooney / “J. Kelly” discussion | | 08:42 | Ethan Hawke & “Blue Moon” | | 13:51 | Ethan Hawke’s self-effacing award speech | | 15:54 | Red carpet fashion—Selena Gomez & Nikki Glaser | | 20:03 | Leonardo DiCaprio’s performance & meme moment | | 22:25 | Best Podcast category—Mel Robbins, Markle | | 27:14 | Meghan Markle’s failed business/analytics | | 32:04 | Award shows & the rise of YouTube | | 41:08 | Rose Byrne’s style & career analysis | | 47:24 | Ariana Grande’s updated look | | 49:15 | Sarah Jessica Parker’s Carol Burnett award | | 54:15 | Critique of Sex and the City in hindsight | | 59:21 | New business model: Globes sell tables | | 72:00 | Red carpet: Timmy (Chalamet) arrives & fashion | | 75:54 | Timmy’s sunglasses: “trying too hard not to care”| | 83:00 | Ethan Hawke’s arrival and gravitas |

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Tone and Language

• Consistently sharp, irreverent, and snarky, but knowledgeable.
• Banter is brisk, with playful in-jokes and callbacks to pop culture, news, and previous Nerve episodes.
• Panelists don’t shy from calling out celebrity hypocrisy, awards show cynicism, or the gamesmanship behind Hollywood’s glamour.
• Strong engagement with the live chat creates an interactive, fluid tone—troublemakers are part of the show.

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Conclusion

This special Nerve live episode delivers a whirlwind of Golden Globes analysis—a feast of pop cultural insight, industry gossip, and comedic shade thrown at Hollywood’s elite, award campaigns, fashion faux-pas, and the complicated relationship between fame and authenticity. The reconsideration of old-school glamour, the eye-rolling at influencer and podcast culture, and the deconstruction of the night’s celebrity rituals make for an honest, unfiltered awards-night companion. For insiders and culture vultures alike, The Nerve keeps the night lively, real, and just a bit savage.

Transcript

[Maureen Callahan]

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[Tim McKay]

The story has to burn slowly.

[Rob Shooter]

With immense payoff 12 seasons down the line.

[Maureen Callahan]

This isn't Stranger Things.

[Rob Shooter]

Do you know who I am?

[Maureen Callahan]

Say my name.

[Tim McKay]

You're Vince Gilligan.

[Maureen Callahan]

You're goddamn right. Hello and welcome. Welcome to the Nerve Golden Globes live. I am your host, Maureen Callahan. I'm actually your co host. Teddy's here. Teddy Van Halen is here. He's like, hey, give me my screen time. I dress up for nothing. We're so excited to have you with us for the live stream. And we're paying attention to the live chat right now. On deck with us, celebrity reporter extraordinaire, Rob Shooter. Welcome, Rob and Tim, the celebrity makeup artist, Tim McKay. Here with us in absentia, Timmy Shyamalama. Ding dong ping pong is top shit is right here with two different facial expressions. And behind us in a grotto as memorialized like a religious figure, like a martyr she is. It's Meghan Markle and her, as ever, bubbly, which we're going to break open halfway through this little extravaganza. Welcome.

[Rob Shooter]

Hey, thanks for having us. Is this our first time doing a live stream or this is our second live stream? Second time. It's going to be even better than the first.

[Maureen Callahan]

That's what they say. That's what they say. So at the top of that, I don't know if you guys are familiar, this was allegedly, reportedly, Vince Gilligan, creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And now Pluribus on Apple tv, the highly awarded, critically recognized Pluribus having a meltdown on set, saying, this isn't fucking Stranger Things. Get real. I'm Vince Gilligan. Say my name. Rob, have you ever. I'm sure you have. Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

I think this happens a lot. What doesn't happen is we don't get to hear about it very often. But now, I think with the different ways that television movies are being made and the fact we've all got one of these in our pockets, it means now that these outtakes are delicious. I remember it with magazines, too. We'd never get to see the untouched covers of those Vanity Fair. Now we do. And so now I think truth and authenticness is a good thing.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, I agree completely. Tim, what is your reaction to the Vince Gilligan meltdown? Alleged reported meltdown.

[Tim McKay]

I love it. I think back to Tom Cruise on the set of Mission Impossible 7 having a huge meltdown. And I love it.

[Maureen Callahan]

Let's give credit to the O. Christian Bale.

[Rob Shooter]

You better believe.

[Maureen Callahan]

Get the fuck out of my shot.

[Tim McKay]

That one. That's the truth. That is the truth.

[Maureen Callahan]

Poetry, pure poetry out of Christian Bale. Well, before we get to, you know, the stars are coming in on the red carpet and, you know, the closer we get to the 8pm start time is when the real A listers show up. So we thought we'd do. We'd begin before we get to the red carpet with a little recap of some of our nominees and the work that we really think they should be awarded for. Rob's already laughing.

[Rob Shooter]

I don't know why.

[Maureen Callahan]

And I'm here, by the way, with my Bill Mahertini. Marlena actually had this made for me. This was my Christmas gift from her. It's got an M on it and it's a Mahertine. There has never been a mug this woman doesn't love. Cheers.

[Rob Shooter]

Cheers.

[Tim McKay]

Cheers.

[Maureen Callahan]

Cheers.

[Rob Shooter]

Cheers.

[Maureen Callahan]

Little devil Teddy doesn't drink, but okay. So George Clooney is up for J. Kelly, a movie I really wanted to like. I thought I would like. I could not get through it. I actually think he should have been nominated for this particular role. Here we go.

[Rob Shooter]

This idea of using government to scare or fine or use corporations to make journalists smaller.

[Tim McKay]

Governments don't like the freedom of the press.

[Maureen Callahan]

They never have.

[Tim McKay]

And that goes for whether you are.

[Maureen Callahan]

A conservative or a liberal or whatever side you're on. They don't like the press. George's favorite thing to do is pretend in his actual real life that he's not an actor or a movie star, but that he's a journalist. And he loves to go on shows like 60 Minutes or Go on CNN and school real journalists on how to be real journalists, which I love. I think he should get the Globe for that.

[Rob Shooter]

He even plays journalists. I saw him on Broadway in Good Night and Good Luck. I saw it where he played a journalist. So his dad's a journalist. And I think he feels like it's probably more noble than being an actor. The problem is, George, you ain't a journalist. And so it's a very odd. If you want to be a journalist, George, I'm sure there are many outlets, maybe the Nerve, who would hire you, but we're not going to be paying money to get you in your late Cuomo house.

[Maureen Callahan]

We have a higher standard here at the Nerve. Our real talk about fake people. I don't think George could hack it.

[Tim McKay]

I think he was great at playing himself in this movie though. I think, like, because it's J. Kelly, Jay Kelly, George Cloo. Jay Kelly, George Clooney. I think it almost sounds the same. I feel like he really nailed it home with this.

[Maureen Callahan]

Even if you get to even the syllables. George, J. Kelly Clooney.

[Rob Shooter]

I think he knew that. I think he knew that. And I think that he thinks that's very witty and funny. It's always with George, it always feels as if we're not in on the joke and it's just his group, his crowd that are allowed to be part of it. And it's really been a snobby to, to, to a level where I think it alienates a lot of people.

[Tim McKay]

And then we get a whole montage at the end of the movie where he watches his own real life clips and he's like getting emotional and teary eyed over it. I'm like, that's hilarious. He's just literally watching himself on screen.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes. So I saw this. So I couldn't make it through the whole movie. I tried three times. I tried three times. But now they're airing. Netflix rolled out a 30 minute infomercial for why J. Kelly is such a great effing movie. Which I think if you have to tell people why your movie is great, then your movie failed.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

The movie should just speak for. But they talked about this, how the director, Noah Baumbach, for that final scene had George Clooney as Jay Kelly being honored for his work in cinema. But what Noah did was play clips for George of George's work. And then we're watching George well up at how epic great he is.

[Rob Shooter]

Like, you couldn't make it up for.

[Tim McKay]

His natural reaction of watching himself like, wow, I don't want to spoil it.

[Rob Shooter]

He just commits. He commits though. Like, he really is I saw him and Amal about six weeks ago at the theater here in New York. I sat behind him and I think he was.

[Maureen Callahan]

What was the show?

[Rob Shooter]

Art. He was there to see James Corden and Bobby Carnell Valley.

[Maureen Callahan]

I went to Art, I walked out, I left.

[Rob Shooter]

I think. I gotta admit, I like the show, but I liked sitting by Amalbenna. Like, I just stared at her all night. And I wasn't the only person. She was the star. Like, really looks like a model. She's six foot. Like, she towers over him and her hair's incredible. And so everybody was excited about seeing her. Not him.

[Maureen Callahan]

Did they say through the whole thing?

[Rob Shooter]

I mean, they stayed for the whole thing and then they went backstage to say hello and do their actor thing.

[Maureen Callahan]

Wow. Okay, well, we're going to leave George Clooney aside for the moment. We've. We've done it with him. Now I want to talk a bit about Ethan Hawke, who has been nominated for his role as Lorenz Hart in Blue Moon. I just watched this movie last night. I've been dying to see it. Blown away.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh, thank goodness.

[Maureen Callahan]

Blown away.

[Rob Shooter]

I didn't know. I didn't know where you were gonna go. I love. This is my favorite movie of the year.

[Maureen Callahan]

Is it?

[Rob Shooter]

I love this movie.

[Maureen Callahan]

I could see it speaking to you, right?

[Rob Shooter]

I love it. Well, I'm like one of those show queens, aren't I? I like musical theater. I like all the.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's not everything, right? It's like that old New York. They shot it Sardis for real. It's like one night. It's like a balance of power tipping, like one's out, one's in, one's. You know, it's incredible. And what. We'll get into all the things I loved about this movie later, including. They're real grammarians in this mov. Ethan Hawke runs into E.B. white and they have debates over, like, a specific word. And it was speaking to. My inner grammarian, was singing aloud. But Ethan Hawke is, first of all, he's an incredible actor. He always gets just criminally over, like, looked at these things he's playing. Lorenz hart was like 411. Ethan Hawke is like a big guy and it's all camera angles and his own physicality and wardrobe in making him look wild.

[Rob Shooter]

And they dug trenches in the floor. So in the studio, they had people on, raised up and he was down in a trench. And then at the bar, his seat was a little bit low. But the trickery. You totally believe that he is four, five, whatever. You totally Believe it. And then the other thing too with this movie, I think this is why it appeals to so many people is it's that night where you watch somebody who you work with suddenly become bigger.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes.

[Rob Shooter]

And who hasn't done that? What office or what job haven't you had when somebody who you were equal to suddenly changes the world? And that person was Rodgers and Hammerstein. So it was an incredible New Yorky type showbiz movie.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes. Richard Rogers had been songwriting partners with Lorenz Hart forever. They wrote the American Songbook. And Lorenz Hart becomes undone by his alcoholism, by his self pity, by this sort of self loathing he's got. But he's also a bon vivant. You know, it's a type of like you know them in New York.

[Rob Shooter]

But ultimately what undid him is Oscar Hammerstein. Like he came along had. So he'd stopped working with Lorenz and then his first job, his first new musical with his new collaborator and they became Rodgers and Hammerstein.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes. Oklahoma. And there's this whole push and pull where Lorenz Hart doesn't like it. You're a sellout. Like they, they're, they're debating over the exclamation point. Should Oklahoma have an exclamation point? Like again, singing my song. But so here's Ethan. So at the Critics Choice Awards a couple of weeks ago, you know, Timothy Shamalama, Pink Paul got the Oscar for best actor and Ethan Hawke, I mean, the guy is winning at award season. I don't care if he takes home a trophy. He's won an award season. Here he is. Watch his reaction. He bursts out laughing like, oh my effing God, this guy, this guy is like, hey man, I'm delivering some top shit over here. Give me the award. Ethan Hawks. Like, I've been doing this since before you were born.

[Rob Shooter]

It makes me so frustrated to be that talented and watch a cute guy who's talented come along and win the awards and date in a Kardashian. And I understand why Timothy is winning, but if it was just about talent, this should be Ethan's night.

[Maureen Callahan]

100%. Tim, your thoughts?

[Tim McKay]

I just think Tim always seems the same to me. The other Tim seems always like the same to me in every one of his roles, whether he's in Dune or he's in not that I've seen Marty supreme, but you know, he looks like he's playing the same kind of character in all his roles.

[Maureen Callahan]

I just think when you want it that badly, when it feels so graspy. So like, give it to me, I gotta have it. I gotta have it. It's like. I mean, if I were voting, I would vote against him just for that. I don't like it, but it works.

[Rob Shooter]

Like, I've been on the other side of this for years. Before being an economist, I worked with JLo and I went to the Golden Globes once with Jennifer Lopez. And the more hoary, the more pushy, the more vulgar you are, the more likely you are to win. It's an awful, awful truth about it. But the ones like, Ethan Hawke's too cool for this. He won't go and shoot for this. He won't shake hands, he won't go to the parties. He won't do.

[Maureen Callahan]

That was my question. Is it because he doesn't play the game?

[Rob Shooter]

He doesn't play the game. And that's not just too. In acting, like, in our world, in your world, like, there's a game to play, right? And Ethan won't play it. Timothy plays it. And I think he's got a trump card this year with Kylie Jenner. Like, as much as controversial as she is, she's an elevator. She's elevated his press game. We're talking about him even more than we would be.

[Maureen Callahan]

I know, I know. It really bothers me, but I'm gonna. I wanna show this showed up in my algorithm, I think this morning or last night, Ethan Hawke is at. He's giving Rose Byrne an award. At. I think it's the New York Critics Circle. So. So. And these are like New York people. Like, they're a type. And they're like, it's my vibe. I like it. They're like. They're a little bit. They're a little bit cooler. They're a little bit like. I like acting. I don't need all the other bells and whistles. But they do show up. I mean, to a point. You know, they're all the same. Anyway, so Ethan Hawke is giving Rose Byrne, who is married to his co star Bobby Cannavale in Blue Moon, he's giving her an award. But listen to his presentation and how he makes fun of himself. Here we go.

[Rob Shooter]

There are some actors here that in the beginning of their careers, were critics, too. Rose Byrne liked to write reviews for a little paper called Goodreads. And she reviewed my first novel, which she said, it reads like a poor.

[Tim McKay]

Man'S attempt at a Ryan Adams song.

[Maureen Callahan]

Remember that, Rose?

[Rob Shooter]

All right, now, it's a testament to how much I love your acting that I didn't give a shit.

[Maureen Callahan]

I was glad you read My book, There's a Gal.

[Rob Shooter]

Thank you, Ethan.

[Maureen Callahan]

I never thought you would read that review ever. Ever. Goodreads. It's so daggy. Like no one reads it. Daggy, I believe, is Australian slang for lame.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

But I thought that was very funny and self effacing and charming.

[Rob Shooter]

You've got to live like that. Like, if you're gonna be in the public eye. That is part of the price of being an actor. If you're gonna become a really successful actor, it's a big price of it. And the ones that handle it the best and handle fame the best are in on the jokes. We've interviewed so many people, we've worked with so many different people. The ones that I think rise to the top are the ones that have a little bit of sense of humor about how ridiculous this wall is. I think that's what Clooney could do with. I wish he was. I wish he'd liked a little bit more of himself. He doesn't.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, yes, he pretends to laugh at himself, but really you could tell that's like a very thin veneer and if you crack it, it's gonna be bloody.

[Rob Shooter]

And we saw it in those emails. Remember when CREA exposed all those emails and Scott Rudin's emails.

[Maureen Callahan]

The Sony hacks.

[Rob Shooter]

The Sony hack. Remember that? And so we saw Clooney's emails and he was emailing an executive, I think.

[Maureen Callahan]

I think he's a Pascal.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

And he was so angry.

[Rob Shooter]

You're not looking after me. This movie's gonna bomb.

[Maureen Callahan]

I need protection.

[Rob Shooter]

Not quite as cool as you think, George.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, we're gonna go to the red carpet with our first look of the evening. It is Selena Gomez. Right? We're looking at Selena right now.

[Tim McKay]

Or are we looking at.

[Maureen Callahan]

Here she comes.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh, swollen.

[Maureen Callahan]

So we're getting a lot of feathers.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh, yes.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's a beautiful neckline. She looks very old. Hollywood.

[Tim McKay]

She does. 1940s, 1930s.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

She really leans into that. Old and glamorous. Look at this husband.

[Maureen Callahan]

She's on the phone.

[Rob Shooter]

She's on the phone. Who's she on with? Mery?

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah. Steve Martin checking Instagram.

[Rob Shooter]

What are you doing?

[Maureen Callahan]

DMing you.

[Rob Shooter]

What are you doing? She's watching the Nerf. Hi, Celine. Hi, Selena. I think she's right. I like the look. I like. Now, a little secret of this is a lot of the stars actually get a suite in the hotel. And so they get dressed at the hotel and then they jump in the limo and just drive around the block and then come back down the red carpet. So a lot of them look so fresh because literally 10 minutes ago, she was in a makeup artist.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's very smart. They do the same thing for the Met Gala. They'll get ready in nearby hotels so that, like, when they alight from their vehicles.

[Tim McKay]

And honestly, the makeup artist is probably in the car, too. I'm always in the car, and I'm always right before you get out. Okay, go.

[Rob Shooter]

What's the biggest mistake people make? Is it lipstick on your teeth? Or what's. What's the.

[Tim McKay]

That happens often. And I always say just, like, you know, play the old trick of, like, putting your finger in your mouth and, like, just do it quick or, like, kind of wipe your teeth, even if you're not even sure if you have anything on there or not.

[Maureen Callahan]

Pro tip. Pro tip from Tim. Now we're going to take a look at Nikki Glazer, who is the host of this Evening Here. She's gonna come up in a second, and when we. After we look at Nikki, we're gonna talk about Leonardo DiCaprio, who I'm gonna position posit, rather, what I think was Leo's finest work. And I don't think you're gonna guess what I'm gonna say.

[Rob Shooter]

I think that Nikki is the perfect host for this show. I think she's cheeky enough to make a smile, which is not really gonna upset anybody in that room.

[Maureen Callahan]

She's.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, she's a safer Ricky Gervais, who I think pushed buttons so much. But what's interesting this year and last year is the voters are not invited. The Hollywood foreign press, the 100, 200 people that vote have not been invited to the show this year. I spoke too, earlier, and they've sold it. They've sold the company to Penske Media. And so now the people that actually vote who normally were in that room are en suites upstairs watching it.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, happy Golden Globes night to you. You just made it happen. I don't think you're gonna show up and not get invited. Some food and drink.

[Tim McKay]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's tiktokers there, though. Like, they go to everything now. Now, every single red carpet I've been to, there's just a bunch of, like, young tiktokers that don't belong. They loud and you can tell that they don't belong.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, the only person they know is Timmy.

[Tim McKay]

They're there for him. Totally.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, we're gonna take a look at Nikki right here. Let's see what she's.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh, old Glamour, too, though. It's a lot of fabric in that skirt. It's a lot of ruching. But I think she looks pretty. Her makeup, simple. The hair's very beachy. No diamonds, I notice, like, very sort of.

[Maureen Callahan]

This is strange. I feel like she needs a necklace. I feel like she needs something up there. This is strange to me. This is a very. You know, she likes to position herself as, like, the edgy comic, you know, I mean, most comics like to think they're edgy, but, you know, like you said, she wants to be Ricky Gervais adjacent but friendly enough. That, to me, is like a very pretty princess gown. The dusty Pink feels very 1980s to me. I don't know.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, I think you're right. I think that she's at that crossroads now in her career. Is she a comedian? Is she an actress? Is she a beauty queen? Like, it's so tricky because I think everybody wants to look really pretty, of course. And you're walking next to some of the prettiest people in the world. And so maybe to lean into your comedy might be a better idea.

[Tim McKay]

I think that's very true. I think when someone's almost too attractive, there's only so funny they can be. Unless they're able to really make some goofy and, like, not be afraid to embarrass themselves. But usually it's the person that just kind of looks like an everyday Joe that really has you howling because, you know, it's not about their looks.

[Rob Shooter]

And she won't be wearing that dress. I predict to open the shirt, she's gonna run backstage. That's why she's on the carpet early. So she'll run backstage, and more people are gonna see her dress on the show than this red carpet dress. So I think she's holding her best look not for the carpet, but to the monolith.

[Maureen Callahan]

I agree with you.

[Rob Shooter]

That's where she wants to pop.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, let's take a look at Leonardo DiCaprio. He's up this year for one battle after another. I could not get through this one either.

[Tim McKay]

Me neither.

[Maureen Callahan]

Tim the movie buff could not get through.

[Tim McKay]

I tried. I think we probably shut it off at the same exact spot. I don't even know.

[Rob Shooter]

Ooh, high. Log into it.

[Tim McKay]

I would say a third. I wouldn't say halfway.

[Maureen Callahan]

I would say it was a third. But I was remarkably, all too easily distracted throughout it. So it was like sort of an intermittent watch.

[Rob Shooter]

It did feel like every minute had an extra 20 seconds. Like, it just went on and on and on.

[Maureen Callahan]

And also like, he looks. He's. He looks like he's not bathing in the movie. And it's. It's. It's a lot. It's a lot. So anyway, I. I would like to show what I believe was Leonardo DiCaprio's to. To up until this moment. Really. This is his best acting ever. Look at his face. He runs through, like 80 facial expressions in the span of three seconds. Here we go.

[Tim McKay]

Oh, my God. I still wonder why she.

[Maureen Callahan]

Look at.

[Tim McKay]

It's on purpose.

[Maureen Callahan]

Look at. It's a brutal film.

[Rob Shooter]

Meanwhile, that's the most conservative Lady Gaga has ever looked. Can you imagine if she had turned up in the meat dress?

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, no, she wasn't. She was becoming a newly minted movie star. She got her Golden Globe. And I think what was going on was Leo's like, hey, hey, I'm just. She got her work cool, like, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, get the fuck out of my way.

[Tim McKay]

I'm trying to walk.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh, it was the fact that she elbowed him. Not when she was wearing.

[Maureen Callahan]

No, she was like, giving him shit.

[Rob Shooter]

She's lady gag. There are a little bit of mean girliness, though. The year that I went with Jennifer Lopez, she had just broken up with Ben Affleck, right? And she was like, probably the hottest star there, at least tabloid wise. Right?

[Maureen Callahan]

Everybody wanted to hear from her.

[Rob Shooter]

People were really mean. I heard, like, Jennifer heard it too. The other actors and actresses, like, snarled at her a little bit and made.

[Tim McKay]

Fun of her in person.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, yeah, you could hear it. She was aware of it. I think she's even spoken about this. That about seven songs about other people.

[Maureen Callahan]

Doing her vocals, allegedly, reportedly, about being a fraud, about sleeping with Tommy Ma, Allegedly, reportedly.

[Tim McKay]

What was it?

[Maureen Callahan]

What could it do wrong?

[Rob Shooter]

I thought that we gotta move on.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, now the category of best podcast, which is the first ever.

[Rob Shooter]

Are you up? Are you up, Maureen? Is this you?

[Maureen Callahan]

No. We're babies. We're baby show. I can't compete with the likes of Mel Robbins because I'm not slinging a bunch of bullshit to people that, you.

[Rob Shooter]

Know, I met her 20 years ago. She had. She had a radio show that she paid for in a. In a Borders bookstore in Boston. It might have been. And so she had this radio show and I had a show on Mark Cuban's network, and we both had, like, the same type of manager. And she was a phony baloney back then.

[Maureen Callahan]

Really? Yeah. She's always wanted to be famous. She's just been kicking around trying to find a way she's done it and she's done it.

[Rob Shooter]

Although she's had to put a disclaimer at the end of her podcast. So if you listen to her podcast now, after giving all this very earnest Oprah type advice at the end, now she has to remind you legally that this is an entertainment show, that she's not a trained therapist, she's not a trained psychologist.

[Maureen Callahan]

You don't say.

[Rob Shooter]

An entertainment show.

[Maureen Callahan]

I love this. I love this legal disclaimer. Don't listen to this woman. Okay? This woman was once $800,000 in debt. I have no idea how you get $800,000 in debt. I have no idea.

[Rob Shooter]

Her husband had a pizza parlor and kept opening them and none of them worked.

[Maureen Callahan]

I don't think that's fair.

[Rob Shooter]

You don't?

[Maureen Callahan]

I don't. I don't believe that story. Category of best podcast. First we're going to talk about who did not make the cut. The audio learns of one Meghan Markle, right behind me. Snubbed. Snubbed for confessions of a female Flounder Nepo flatliner Chelsea Clinton, whose new podcast this can't be true. She just. Would you believe that her podcast about public health was not nominated? Riveting.

[Tim McKay]

That can't be true.

[Maureen Callahan]

My father's in the Epstein files. That can't be true. Michelle Obama missing the mark.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She.

[Maureen Callahan]

She was once beloved by Hollywood. She did not get a nom for her podcast with brother Craig in imo. In my opinion. We're going to listen to the sound bite that will live in infamy. Here we go. Why is your chewing annoy me so much? Let's discuss. Yes, let's not. Poor Barack.

[Tim McKay]

She hates him. She can't stand him.

[Maureen Callahan]

Cannot stand him. So Mel Robbins disclaimer now firmly in place. Was nominated here. Let's take a look at her now. Tell me if you can see what's different about her in this photo. Come with me. This is her Instagram onto Golden Globes week.

[Rob Shooter]

Wow.

[Maureen Callahan]

See what's different?

[Rob Shooter]

Well, she's all glammed up. She normally paints herself as sort of like a soccer mom. And so I think she's all glammed up there. Does she have a different. Different hair?

[Tim McKay]

Dude.

[Rob Shooter]

Does she have a different. Is, are her glasses different? What's different?

[Maureen Callahan]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. The eyeglasses. Right now I'm very interested, both of you because, Tim, you're in the visual field and you understand the branding. Her brand has been those big, thick art teacher slash I'm the town's mediocre therapist. Licensed clinical social worker. Those glasses were like, her brand. I think even her logo has the glasses in the brand now. Should she be swapping out her glasses for the new gold eyewear?

[Tim McKay]

I don't know. I mean, if not, if it's gonna be permanent, I think that's her staple look. Then she'd just keep those. But, I mean, I don't know if she should wear the same glasses with every single look.

[Rob Shooter]

I think if it's your brand, stick to it. Do it. Jennifer Aniston has not changed her hair in 40 years. Like, just Liza Fideli. Liza Fideli's hair is her logo.

[Maureen Callahan]

Anna Wintour.

[Rob Shooter]

Anna Wintour. You're blonde. Maureen, you couldn't be brunette. I would stop listening.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, I would hope not. No, we're deeper than that.

[Rob Shooter]

We are deeper. We are deeper than that.

[Maureen Callahan]

But no, I get what you're saying. I just stick with it.

[Rob Shooter]

It's like Madonna doesn't want to be a singer anymore. She wants to be an actress. No. Stick to what you do. Really? Well, there's an interesting little thing, though, about the podcast category. You had to apply.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes.

[Rob Shooter]

And you had to pay. There was a fee.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes.

[Rob Shooter]

So you had to. So maybe Meghan didn't want to write that check.

[Tim McKay]

They're getting a star on the Walker Feast.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah. You have to pay.

[Maureen Callahan]

Exactly.

[Rob Shooter]

And then you have to prove your listeners. And the way you prove it is you have to give your data to a company that happens to be owned.

[Maureen Callahan]

Ding, ding, ding.

[Rob Shooter]

It's all the money, okay?

[Maureen Callahan]

It's the money, and it's showing the analytics, as we just saw. You know, some. Some Redditor. Some hero on Reddit did a deep dive into the. As ever.

[Rob Shooter]

Yes.

[Maureen Callahan]

And got all the figures of what's still in the warehouse by saying, I want to order 200,000. There's, like, 188,000 cans of, like, jars of, like, spreads still in that effing warehouse. She cannot get rid of it.

[Rob Shooter]

So maybe that's why Meghan wasn't there. Maybe she didn't have the numbers.

[Maureen Callahan]

She doesn't have the numbers, and she's.

[Rob Shooter]

Too cheap to write the check, and.

[Maureen Callahan]

She'S too cheap to write the check.

[Rob Shooter]

And she's too messed up her business to fill out the form. She's got no staff left.

[Maureen Callahan]

She has no staff left.

[Rob Shooter]

Not filling out that form.

[Maureen Callahan]

She's not even a presenter, though, you know, they could have given her a presenter. They don't. Okay, all right, let's move on to Marlena's forever crush we have seen her on my Instagram carousel. She and Bill Maher walking the red carpet together. He did not get a nomination for his podcast either. Over at the Nerve. He did, however, win Sex Crimes against the culture award for 2025. But he somehow squeaked in the Globe's nominations for his standup special on HBO called Is anyone else seeing this? These jokes write themselves. Bill, if you're asking if we can see you grabbing your crotch every time you do your show multiple times, yes, we can. We can all see it. So let's take a look at Bill from tonight's red carpet. There's Bill with Marlena, courtesy of Paul from New Zealand. And. And if you notice, you know, the. The red thigh high fishnet tights and the gracefully placed rose over what must be small genitalia with no shoes.

[Tim McKay]

I love that.

[Maureen Callahan]

I think he's got a heel on. If you look at the arch of the foot, it looks slightly elevated in the.

[Tim McKay]

I think he's just using his bear a little, perhaps.

[Maureen Callahan]

I mean, Paul told us that he really thought that out because that's a nod to Bill's assertion on said podcast that the one thing he will not abide in the boudoir is a female friend in red lingerie.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh.

[Maureen Callahan]

So he said. I did. Paul said, I didn't want to be literal and go with real red lingerie. So he was inventive. And he did, like, a sort of thigh high tight with, like, a delicately placed rose. I love it.

[Rob Shooter]

Nicely done. Nicely done. I think the. The motto in celebrity is if you ask a question to which the answer can be, no, you shouldn't ask that question. Like people that have questions in their titles, don't do it. It's never gonna work out.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, you're so right.

[Rob Shooter]

Don't do it.

[Maureen Callahan]

You're so right.

[Rob Shooter]

If you write a book or if you do anything like that, don't ever ask a question.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, it's the unsaid rule, too, of headline writing. Never write a headline with a question.

[Rob Shooter]

That means. Cause you don't know the answer. Whenever I see a headline with a.

[Maureen Callahan]

Question mark, not gonna read it.

[Rob Shooter]

I'm not gonna read. I don't know the answer.

[Maureen Callahan]

If you don't know the answer, why are you wasting my time?

[Tim McKay]

It's just to stir up drama. Usually I feel like, right, yeah, it's on drugs.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, yeah, okay. Like for Us Weekly, like before, it.

[Tim McKay]

Was friendly, scandalous little question.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Could her.

[Maureen Callahan]

Could her shaving her head and attacking paparazzo with an umbrella mean she's on drugs.

[Tim McKay]

Has she lost it?

[Rob Shooter]

No, that's.

[Maureen Callahan]

Who do we have?

[Rob Shooter]

Who do we have?

[Maureen Callahan]

Is Timothy Shalom.

[Rob Shooter]

He won't be there yet.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, we're gonna look at. Oh, Kate Hudson's coming in right now, actually. So we're gonna put a pause, a pin in today and look at Kate Hudson, who is, I believe, nominated for her movie with Hugh Jackman song Sung Blue. So it looks like she's wearing ice blue to sort of represent. She seems to be feeling herself. What do we make of this look, you guys?

[Rob Shooter]

I think she looks great.

[Tim McKay]

She looks beautiful.

[Rob Shooter]

I mean, she's so pretty and she's so Ms. Goldie Horne's daughter. This is as Hollywood as it gets real. It's just old school Hollywood. She knows how to do it. She knows how to present herself. So look good.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, it's a good look.

[Tim McKay]

I think, Tim, I love her. I think she's a great actress. I think she's fun. And I will say, though, on a Monday night, I went to the. Like, at the movie theater, you can go on a Monday and you don't know what movie it is. They just like, you pay $5 and you just go. So this movie came on and I just wasn't in the mood for it. I'm so sorry.

[Maureen Callahan]

Did you walk out?

[Rob Shooter]

I walked out.

[Maureen Callahan]

At what point did you walk out?

[Tim McKay]

Literally within. Like, as soon as I saw, like, the haircuts, I was like, okay, the wigs are terrible.

[Maureen Callahan]

In that mood.

[Tim McKay]

And it's Hugh Jackman and I just. I like him as Wolverine. I can't really see him as this, like, musical guy that's like, trying to feel his oats. Like, I just can't do it. I'm sure it was great.

[Rob Shooter]

Do you buy canned goods in the stores when the labels fell off? Like, is it just, like, do you like guessing at stuff? I've never known anyone go to the movies and not.

[Tim McKay]

Oh, no. It was the one and only time. And the only reason why I did that is because I was hoping it was a different movie. I was hoping it was the Housemaid, which I recommended recently.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, yes, I want to see the Housemaid.

[Tim McKay]

And it was not the Housemaid. So as soon as it was and I walked out.

[Maureen Callahan]

Got it.

[Tim McKay]

I was like, no. Yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

Again, this is the problem, though, with the Globes, I think, you know, they've got so many categories for so many films that nobody has really gone to see.

[Tim McKay]

Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

You know, the world's changed, hasn't it? Like those days when we would watch Titanic and It would win. Were so sort of epic. And now I think we're all watching our own things, probably on our own phones.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

And I don't know if these award shows have yet figured out how to do that. Maybe the podcast category is a good idea.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

You know, I think that's the one I'm most interested in.

[Maureen Callahan]

They need to. They need to. They need to recognize, I think, you know, YouTube channels or digital lanes or content creators. Like, they think. I think they really need to bring that in because Hollywood is, you know, as. As. As reported fairly recently, as of 2029, the Oscars are leaving ABC. They're going to YouTube. They're going to be on YouTube.

[Rob Shooter]

It's big. That's a turning point. Like, like people would never thought that possible 10 years ago. I know, but I must admit, you know, I'm sort of a dinosaur at this. But I get most of my information now on YouTube. I watch clips of shows.

[Maureen Callahan]

Exactly.

[Rob Shooter]

Watch the whole episode anymore. And yet these award shows have not yet figured. Figured it out. Maybe they will.

[Maureen Callahan]

Maybe they will. We'll see. But. So, okay, back to Shyamalan. Ping pong, Ding Dong. We're going to look at some of his greatest red carpet looks as we await his arrival with the fervor of the second coming. Will Kylie be on his arm or will it be Mommy? That's the real nail biter of the evening. Okay, this abomination of Timmy's, I cannot get over this thing. The orange suit. This is Marty Supreme. This is a Tom Ford stylist. Tom Ford, by the way, has nothing to do with this. He sold his company for like billions of dollars. He wouldn't go anywhere near this. Okay, There Timmy is all over his mother, who also had to wear orange, and then with his sex doll girlfriend, Kylie Jenner. Now, this picture isn't totally representational because that body bag that's slung across him diagonally is in the shape of a ping pong paddle.

[Tim McKay]

I thought it was a CD case.

[Maureen Callahan]

From which it was like who's the.

[Tim McKay]

Coolest CDs or something.

[Rob Shooter]

I get a bit controversial on this one. It's annoying. But I think it worked. Tell us why I think it worked. I think that we're talking about this movie. I think we're talking about him. I predict he's gonna win tonight. I think that he took over the marketing campaign of this and we all laughed when the first thing was a zoom call that he released. It was just awful. But he got us talking about it.

[Maureen Callahan]

He still got it up on his Instagram.

[Rob Shooter]

He knows, he knows it's working. And talking, you know, just a second ago about how movies and award shows have to change. Timothy, I think has changed the marketing of movies. If he wins tonight, a lot of publicists, a lot of studio executives are gonna be looking at this.

[Maureen Callahan]

Interesting. I don't think it's a. I don't think it's something that Harvey Weinstein would have endorsed, let alone come up with. Tim, what do you make of this?

[Tim McKay]

I mean, he's a terrible guy, but he made some great movies. I will say Harvey, Harvey Weinstein, he.

[Maureen Callahan]

Knew how to market this. You know, Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture over Saving Private Ryan.

[Rob Shooter]

He knew how to.

[Maureen Callahan]

That was his dark arts.

[Tim McKay]

He knew how to make it happen, unfortunately. But I mean, yeah, I don't know, Timothy, I do think that he wants to preserve filmmaking and I think he wants to preserve like there being like, you know, actual movies in the movie experience, which I appreciate. I've heard that about him.

[Maureen Callahan]

Uh huh.

[Tim McKay]

But whatever. I mean, I don't know.

[Maureen Callahan]

Let's take a look at Paul's art. It is. I died. I almost fell off the chair when I saw it.

[Rob Shooter]

Timothy might use that actually himself. If Timothy sees that, well, I'm gonna sue you, Timothy.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, Paul from New Zealand and I are gonna come after you hard. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. That's proprietary.

[Rob Shooter]

It looks great, Con. It's a winner.

[Maureen Callahan]

Paul's a winner for sure. Okay, we're going to take a look at Kirsten Dunst's Instagram Hollywood. You know, Ethan Hawke is not the only one laughing at this kid. Not the only one Kirsten Dunst took to Instagram. Take a look at this. This is a photo of her husband, Jesse Plemons, who is also up for his role in Begonia. Is that the name? Begonia?

[Rob Shooter]

He's lost a lot of weight.

[Maureen Callahan]

He has lost a lot of weight. But her caption, which you're not seeing in this frame, underneath it, she wrote some top level shit. Oh, Jesse, Jesse, we salute you. So you got some top level in you too. Not just Timothy, you guys, what do you think of that?

[Tim McKay]

I like the movie. I saw Begonia. It was weird, but I thought he was such a good actor in it. I think he's a very good actor. Granted I've only seen him in like one or two things, but he's come.

[Maureen Callahan]

A long way from the days when people would refer to him as the poor man's Matt Damon.

[Rob Shooter]

That's right, yeah, yeah, I think he's Found his own lane. Goodness knows he has a beautiful relationship. They seem really happy. They do together. I like that they can make fun of each other.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

That's a really cute thing, too, about it. And the movie was good. It was. It was a good movie. I did. I don't think it's gonna win tonight, but it was a good movie.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, I don't think it's gonna win tonight either. I have. That's on my list to see. I'm still working through it as we approach the Oscars. Okay. Okay. Now, hopefully when we're through this award season, we're through with these people for quite some time. Cynthia Erivo, nominated for Wicked for Good. Ariana Grande, nominated for Wicked for good. Here are the two of them. First, we're looking at Ariana at the premiere in New York City on November 17th. She is wearing Balenciaga. Oh, she is with Cynthia. Okay. I'm not sure who did Cynthia's, but what do we make of these looks and of these two? In the whole press tour, on the.

[Tim McKay]

Whole, I just know this photo only mainly because of Ariana's makeup. Like, I know you can't see it in this picture, but I know what it looks like up close, and I hated it. I'm so. I don't know who did it.

[Maureen Callahan]

Why, why? What?

[Tim McKay]

I wish you could see, but, like, she's doing this thing now where, like, she's obviously embraced her, like, lighter skin tone, but then she's still doing a really harsh contour, and it's a really harsh nose contour. So, like, the top of the tip of her nose is, like, has this brown mark on it. And I just don't, like. I don't know. I just don't like it. I think she looks too fair if you're gonna have that strong of a dark contour. And I don't know, I just don't love her makeup in this shot. I'm sorry. To whoever did it.

[Maureen Callahan]

Do you think the overcorrection on the nose contour could be to mask some activity that's scandalous?

[Tim McKay]

I mean, I just hear.

[Maureen Callahan]

I don't understand why you would otherwise have such heavy contour on a nose. I don't know.

[Tim McKay]

I thought she was so beautiful. I think it's. Once you start losing weight, maybe you just. You want to keep. Cause she'll put on a heavy contour, and I'm like, I don't think you even need that much of a contour.

[Maureen Callahan]

It could be she's, you know, could be a complexion thing. If she's not, perhaps, you know, I was.

[Rob Shooter]

I was there that night. And just. Just before they were scheduled to arrive, a very nervous publicist ran out and said, cynthia's not talking.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay. Cynthia's on the red carpet for her premiere for the movie she's trying to sell her.

[Tim McKay]

But don't talk to that.

[Rob Shooter]

She invited us to go and.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, come on.

[Rob Shooter]

And so everybody was like, for real? And she wouldn't speak.

[Tim McKay]

I'm just excited for their press tour to be completely. Well, that's what I think that I'm over with. It just feels very phony. Like this. Like, false. Like, oh, my God. I just can't believe we're changing the world. And just, like, being surprised that people loved it. Like, just so blown away.

[Rob Shooter]

I mean, people loved it.

[Tim McKay]

It's a famous play. People know them. I don't know.

[Rob Shooter]

Let's predict, though, that after this week, after this award, maybe after tomorrow, these two are not going to be holding hands. We're not going to see them sticking around.

[Tim McKay]

They'll never see each other again.

[Rob Shooter]

They're going to see each other again. Like Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson. Movie is over, right? They're over, right?

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, my God. Okay. Rose Byrne. The aforementioned Rose Byrne, who I'm a fan of, I like. Great. I've loved her since Damages. She was great in Damages and then went on to remake herself as a comedienne. She is nominated for again. This is also on my list. Haven't seen it yet. If I had legs, I'd kick you. Here she is on the red carpet at Elle's 2025 Women in Hollywood event. She's wearing Ralph Lauren. The black look is. Her stylist was Kate Young. She's in Prada. And then the second red look is Rodarte. Same style as Kate. Yeah, I think she looks phenomenal in all of them.

[Tim McKay]

I love the hair makeup, too.

[Maureen Callahan]

Same.

[Rob Shooter]

It looks a little bit like she got out the shower and she's wearing a towel on the red dress.

[Tim McKay]

The first red dress? Yeah, the first red dress.

[Rob Shooter]

A little bit like a towel. She's so pretty. She's so striking. Her hair is flawless. Her makeup looks great, and she knows who she is. Like, she's comfortable in her own skin and no aaa. All A pluses. Looks great, Tim.

[Tim McKay]

I think she's hilarious and beautiful and sweet. It just comes across that way. And I think she looks so gorgeous in this dark red dress. I love her hair. It's actually almost reminding me of Sylvie's makeup in Emily Loves Paris. Emily In Paris, whatever. It just reminds me of Sylvie's kind of like hair and makeup combo that she usually does. But I love these looks. Very clean.

[Rob Shooter]

I like to pull them all off. Like, they're quite different looks. Sometimes I think we do this. Not just celebrities, but we do this too. When we find a shade or something, the silhouette, we just keep repeating it. And so. So many celebrities do that, and it's so boring. But I like the fact here we get three. Three really different looks, I'm told, too. Designers really want to dress her. This is a thing.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

Thinks about like some celebrities, they don't want.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, it's really true.

[Rob Shooter]

It looks real close. But they want her. She's a class act and looks great.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, that's what I like about. She's Australian, but lives in New York and has for many years. And she and Carrie Russell, both New York actors, they kind of have this. The same vibe. It's. They do less. They always show up on the red carpet, but they show up in a much more. It's a cooler way. It's a more restrained way. It's like they'll. It's a little bit edgier. It's a little bit more simple. You're not going to see her in 80 pounds of hair extensions ever. Or like an Ariana Grande contour. It's not going to happen. And it's a vibe I really love. And I wish there was more of it on the red carpet.

[Rob Shooter]

I think the reason there isn't is the more often gets, the more attention. And there's something about actors that love attention. A lot of narcissists in the business. And to turn up and just look beautiful but not make headlines is something that a lot of celebrities don't want. You've worked with so many stuff. They want to have that moment on the carpet that is ridiculous. But it gets them on the COVID of the Post, gets them on the Daily Mail. They want that moment.

[Tim McKay]

It's the same when they're doing press, too. I know. Prepping for different interviews. They'll often go over what they're gonna say because they're hoping for certain sound bites and certain clippets.

[Maureen Callahan]

Right? Right. Also, when you look at actors like that, they do exist. They're rare. But I think Timothy Olyphant is another one of them where it's like they're only really comfortable with a certain level of fame. They don't want the kind of fame that Jennifer Lopez has or Jennifer Aniston has. They're More comfortable at like a mid tier level of fame.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, they don't want it. It's like their piece of their pie is exactly what they want. They don't want anymore. And there's a way to do that. There's a way to pull back. There's a way to change what jobs you accept. Like, you know, I find it such a dull dialogue when it's like, oh, boo hoo, I'm so famous and you won't leave me alone.

[Maureen Callahan]

And you can always dial that back, like, who?

[Tim McKay]

What's the movie J? The one that's up right now with George Clooney.

[Maureen Callahan]

Jake Kelly. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's the whole point of Jake Kelly. Oh my God, I'm so famous, I'm collapsing under the weight of it.

[Tim McKay]

Well, chances to be with my daughters, but I still chose the work anyways.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, exactly. I'm on a train. Oh, I can't even with that movie, I can't. Okay, offender, like one of our very first offenders here at the Nerve, and he is a recidivist. And he got his way out of the woodshed. I don't know how the hell he got out of that. Walt Goggins is on the red carpet. Oh, my God.

[Rob Shooter]

It'S so him. If he had turned up in an old traditional tuxedo, we'd be really disappointed.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, that was never going to happen.

[Rob Shooter]

Never gonna happen.

[Maureen Callahan]

That was never gonna happen.

[Rob Shooter]

Look at him.

[Maureen Callahan]

He's wearing old lame and like a bolo tie. Like. And we gotta talk hair and makeup, Tim, because he looks like he just went down over like to some street on Beverly Hills and was just like, give me the noon special for a spray. And it was still drying in the limo.

[Tim McKay]

Like, hey, I mean, I love a spray tan. I don't have one today, but I.

[Maureen Callahan]

Love a spray tan too. Don't get me wrong. But that looks way too. Even the face, right? You should have makeup on.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah, definitely.

[Tim McKay]

A little dimension on the face.

[Maureen Callahan]

Rob, what do you make of Walt Goggins and his victory laugh?

[Rob Shooter]

This is his moment. The question's going to be after the White Lotus, does he have another moment? And so this is when it's very difficult for him to decide what is next. And so, so I like him. He amuses me. I like celebrities that are different.

[Maureen Callahan]

I think he's handsome.

[Rob Shooter]

I think he's a little handsome. I think he's odd looking, but I think that's kind of a charming thing to be. That's what it is in this world where Everybody looks so perfect on this carpet. To have somebody that's a little offbeat, I think is fun.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, Walt lost, like I loved Walt in Justified. I thought he was incredible. Boyd Crowder was a villain for the ages. But he lost me when he made fun of his co star's teeth. Teeth in White Lotus. Co star he clearly, I think had an affair with. And if I were his wife, as discussed, I would have thrown everything out on the front lawn on his return from Thailand.

[Tim McKay]

What about his teeth though? His big fake dentures?

[Maureen Callahan]

You know what they say about people who do that? It's like projection, right? Yeah, it's projection, right?

[Rob Shooter]

That's right. That was the moment after White Lotus when everything was going so well and he literally put his foot in his mouth, pun intended. And did he make fun of her teeth? And she was kind of elegant about it. She didn't really hit back.

[Tim McKay]

She was earnest about it. She was like, I'm just really surprised people are talking about my teeth.

[Maureen Callahan]

And I love her teeth. I think that makes her unique looking and it's very charming.

[Rob Shooter]

They're both up for the same category. They're both odd ducks in the most beautiful way. And she's more odd than he is. And now I think I'm team her.

[Maureen Callahan]

Gold lame, sleazy, sleazy, sleazy, sleazy, sleaze. Okay, coming up shortly, we to get into the winner of this year's Carol Burnett award at the Globes, which is heresy. The awardee is heresy. But first I am going to talk a little bit about our sponsor, Masa Chips. If you are looking to eat cleaner in 2026, toss the chemical laden snacks and switch to Masa. Masa's tortilla chips are made with just three healthy ingredients. Organic corn, sea salt, salt and grass fed beef tallow. No seed oils, no mystery junk and they are delicious, crunchy and flavorful. Plus, Masa chips will leave you feeling satisfied and light. No bloating, no sluggishness. My favorite is the original but they have a full variety of flavors from which to choose. And if you like the Masa tortilla chips, you should try their sister line of potato chips, Vandy Crisps. I am partial to the the classic original but they are all delicious. If you are ready to give Masa a try, go to masachips.com maureen and use code MAUREEN for 25% off your first order. Or simply click in the link in the video description or scan the QR code to claim this delicious offer. Don't feel like, ordering online. Masa is now available nationwide at your local sprouts supermarket. So stop by and pick up a couple of bags before they are gone. Okay? Oh, okay. Marlene is saying, like, we have to look at Ariana Grande, who has now arrived at the red carpet. Before we get into the.

[Tim McKay]

I just saw her. I think she looks really good tonight. Completely opposite of what. Yes, I think she looks really pretty. She has a little bit of a tan. She's down to the dark hair, which I'm. She's out of that mousey color. Thank God.

[Rob Shooter]

Ponytail.

[Tim McKay]

I love the ponytail. I think she looks healthy than that. I think she looks beautiful. I actually.

[Maureen Callahan]

Another look at her, you guys. I like the. I like that the dress has this asymmetry to it. Again, it feels a little bit edgier. This is a New York girl, right? She's from Staten island, right?

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah. She looks cool.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah. There's, like, some edge to it. There's. It's a. It's a princess effect. But again, it feels a little bit sharp.

[Tim McKay]

I like this much better. I hope she's getting out of the Glinda phase and more into, like, the Ariana phrase. Back into the Ariana.

[Maureen Callahan]

I think she is.

[Rob Shooter]

Note to Mel Robbins. If. If she can wear her ponytail, put on your dumb glasses. Like, that's your look.

[Maureen Callahan]

Great point. The ponytail, right?

[Rob Shooter]

The ponytail's back. That's her signature. Like, when you play characters, take it out. But when you're on the red carpet playing yourself. Let's see it.

[Maureen Callahan]

I love that. I love that. Okay, now, Sarah Jessica Parker won the Carol Burnett Award. Again, if you are of a certain age, this is heresy. So first, we're gonna take a look. She got it in a ceremony that was happening prior to tonight's Globes, and she's been as insufferable about it as you would think. As you would think. We're going to revisit the damage that and just like that did to the culture and all of our eyesight. So this is. So she goes on Instagram and she puts her Golden Globes Carol Burnett award on her floor. And it's Marlena pointed out, like her old lady pink gingham. Like old lady gingham. Like satirical. And like, her hat. Oh, I brought it for Teddy.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I don't know.

[Maureen Callahan]

He's over Teddy watching. But I've got Teddy's hat here. Anyway, she. You know, she writes this insufferable caption I couldn't possibly, like, begin to thank people for. It's a trophy. Get over yourself. Okay.

[Rob Shooter]

At a totally fake award. They've never given this hat before. They're just doing it to expand the brand. So they're. People that have bought the Golden Globes are looking for ways to make more money out of it. We're gonna see a Golden Globes in Dubai. We're gonna see them around the world.

[Maureen Callahan]

Saudi Arabia. Call your agents. So then. So what I wanna show before we get into Sarah Jessica Parker's, like, insufferably earnest fucking. And you and I are gonna talk about one of her tics. Tim, because it's on full display here. But I'm gonna show you this. This sketch from the Carol Burnett Show. It's a. It's a takeoff on Gone with the Wind and Carol Burnett. I think Rob already knows where we're going. She's playing Scarlett o', Hara and Rhett Butler is paying a surprise visit. And she. She had to pull together a gown in the. In a split second so she could look ready for Rhett. And this is one of the Carol Burnett Show's most famous sketches. It got it. It got the long. I think it got the longest amount of laughter and applause any sketch she did on her show ever did. Here we go. We're gonna take a look. What brings you to Tara? You. You vixen, you stylish. I love you. That, that.

[Rob Shooter]

That gown is gorgeous.

[Maureen Callahan]

Thank you. I saw it in the window and I just couldn't resist it. That is a comedy legend. Okay. That is a. A female comedienne at the height of her powers. So now sjp, the inaugural recipient of an award named after a legend. Okay, let's listen to her on this.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I met Carrie Bradshaw, Charlotte Yorke, Samantha Jones and Miranda Hobbs. And I spent 25 years with the most glorious ensemble of women and actors where we treated all of New York like CBS Television City and the streets like Studio 33. I cherish every 15th hour on the set or 16th hour. Every walk and talk looking into your eyes for the hardest and silliest moments. As Kristin once said, you are in my bones. Darren Starr, thanking you for thanking me. Your Carrie seems inefficient, but it is what I everlastingly feel. And Michael Patrick King, our longtime leader, my partner and Carrie's extraordinary narrator. You left no stone unturned for Carrie's better or worse. Only for my better. You are a treasure. All the women and men who directed me written words and stories. I was desperate. Am desperate to be deserving of and encouraging me to be a clown and to tell the Truth. Hbo, who have given me a sort of permanent residency.

[Maureen Callahan]

A permanent residency at HBO when they canceled her show, which ended with a turd in a toilet bowl. Okay. What do you guys make of all of this? Rob, it's ridiculous.

[Rob Shooter]

And notice who isn't there? There's no Kim Cattrall.

[Maureen Callahan]

Of course not.

[Rob Shooter]

Kim wants no part of this. It was notoriously a really difficult. There was a lot of really nasty, mean girl behavior on it. And Sarah just seems to ignore all that. And she thinks that they created this utopia of happiness and peace and womanhood.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah. Girl power. Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

And none of that is true.

[Tim McKay]

There wasn't one episode that went by that didn't make you cringe in some way or another. Like, every single episode had something about it.

[Maureen Callahan]

And I feel it would have been just like that.

[Tim McKay]

Oh, it would have been just like that. Yeah, of course. And I just feel like she was completely blind to it. I think, like, Sarah Jessica Parker truly believed that it was like this, like, unbelievable show that, like, thank God that the whole world loved. And I think she was, like, really shocked when we were okay with it ending.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah.

[Tim McKay]

Like, we're totally good with it.

[Maureen Callahan]

We were relieved. I remember when that news went around. It was a Friday. We were like, holy fuck. The HBO pulled the plug. Finally. They did it. Because we didn't know. We were all. You know, the problem really was that, like, we thought everybody hated the show, but we were all hate watching it. So eyeballs are eyeballs. Ad dollars, whatever. Subscriber numbers are subscriber numbers. It's a streaming show. But that HBO pulled the plug. You knew it was like a complete cultural embarrassment, like a brand embarrassment.

[Rob Shooter]

And just like the clip you showed of Carol Burnett from decades ago, and we're still laughing at it. Sex and the City did not hold up. It's all.

[Maureen Callahan]

It hasn't held up.

[Rob Shooter]

That's what real art, I think, is. And that's what Sarah's missing here. Here. You're on a hit TV show. You made a lot of money. Congratulations. But don't pretend that 20, 30 years from now, it's gonna mean anything. It's not gonna be the Carol Net Show.

[Maureen Callahan]

She made a show about sex, and she's up there like, she's accepting, like, a Presidential Medal of Honor, you know, it was a show about sex and fashion and an idiot who. Hack writer who spent so much money on shoes and clothes and cabs that she couldn't afford to buy her own apartment. Tim, I want to talk about the tic that SJP does what is. It's a Carrie tic. And it's a real life tic. And she did it in that fucking speech. She goes right to her solar plexus, right to the womb. We point to the. I can inexpress. We're always inexpressibly fill in the word. Well, you're expressing something, sister, so it's not inexpressible. Go watch Ethan Hawke in Blue Moon. Okay. You think you're a downtown New York artist? Not.

[Tim McKay]

I thought it was pretty incoherent what she was saying. I couldn't really follow along with what she was saying. I was like, this is a pretty dramatic speech for Sex and the City.

[Rob Shooter]

For a.

[Maureen Callahan]

Just like that.

[Tim McKay]

For a. Just like that. But, yeah, no, I love her tics. I think she's great. And she always has the sad puppy thing going.

[Rob Shooter]

The why.

[Tim McKay]

The whiny. The. Yeah, right.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah. It's very airy. It's interesting too, that I thought. And Sarah talks about this as an ensemble show. Where are the other ladies? Why is she getting the award? Why is not.

[Tim McKay]

She was the least liked character too.

[Maureen Callahan]

She was the least. I mean, character. Carrie was the worst. It's like we were talking about Emily in Paris. And like, once you. Once you realize that Emily is the worst, you can't unsee it. Like, you can't watch the show through. And once you realize that Carrie has always been the worst.

[Tim McKay]

A wrecking ball crashing through your seat.

[Rob Shooter]

Destroyer.

[Tim McKay]

Destroying lives, marriages, everywhere she goes. And then throwing her flowers in the street when she gets like, pissed off.

[Maureen Callahan]

Cigarette butts, you know, like losing her yelling out windows. Yeah, yeah, Cheated.

[Rob Shooter]

It's just a horrible, horrible representation.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's a horrible.

[Rob Shooter]

And you know, there's a lot of really awful shows out there where we've. With characters that are deeply flawed. She doesn't see it. She.

[Tim McKay]

That's what I'm saying.

[Maureen Callahan]

Because she's mind melted and body melted with Carrie Bradshaw. And that's why she's. She's still shopping around. And just like that, she can't let it go because she's Carrie Bradshaw.

[Rob Shooter]

Remember that shoe store that she opened at the end of the street? Gone.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's gone.

[Tim McKay]

What about the one on the one downtown too? In Seaport? Gone, too.

[Rob Shooter]

That's gone. The whole business is gone. I think the Shoe Business Club. She had a wine business. I'm not sure how that's doing.

[Maureen Callahan]

She's got a publishing imprint. She's publishing books that nobody's effing reading.

[Rob Shooter]

She got a publishing. Yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

And she like, trots out her DEI authors on, like, the Today show every chance she gets. Like, I'm so inexpressibly proud. I found this woman living in a cave in Afghanistan.

[Rob Shooter]

In a cave.

[Maureen Callahan]

She's so full. She is. She is. I think.

[Rob Shooter]

I think that it's coming to an end. I think people now have figured it out. It took you. It took me a minute.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, it did. It took me a minute, too. But I think. I think you're right. I think it's coming to an end for her, and I think maybe she feels it and that's why.

[Rob Shooter]

Are you comfortable?

[Maureen Callahan]

I'm doing fine. We're going to take one more look at SJP before we move on to the live chat. We're going to talk to you guys in there. Take a look at this. What are the odds that there's more sex in the city to come?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

The first time that Michael and I arrived at the very day, difficult decision to end the initial series. We never thought of it as finite. We thought that this is the time now out of respect and affection for the work and more importantly, the people that we love that make the work. And it was the same this time. It was a version of agony to decide to end the show this time. But it's simply because we love it. You know, I think being comfortable can allow you to stay.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And that's not the reason to do it. You have to have something to say. You ask a lot of an audience. They pay to have you in their homes. And we take that seriously on principle, you know? So who knows? Who knows?

[Tim McKay]

I couldn't believe they showed.

[Rob Shooter]

They did show it.

[Tim McKay]

Yeah. Lots of poop.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, we are back. Oh, God. Okay. Troublemaker comment. Maureen ain't just window dressing, though. I like that. I like that. The last little thing I was wearing. How can you compare SJP and Carol? Just how? Andy, Kiwi, our friend Andy. Why did they give SJP an award? Haley? SJP hated Kim because Kim is beautiful. And SJP was never pretty, not even when she was young. Which, as we know, is evolution's way of making sure that the species propagates itself. You're not pretty when you're young. You're in real trouble. Know what I'm saying? HBO bought that award. This is amazing. This is amazing. Okay, what do you guys have to say to that?

[Rob Shooter]

It's a new Golden Globes. They're selling tables for the first year ever. You can actually. It used to be invite only. Now I think a table 75,000. You can actually.

[Maureen Callahan]

So that's almost met gala level, aren't they? 100 grand.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah.

[Tim McKay]

So you for celebrities who aren't invited or is that for anyone?

[Rob Shooter]

Anybody. If you want to have a whip round and we can go next year, let's do it. Yeah. So.

[Maureen Callahan]

So I think it started go fund.

[Rob Shooter]

And they've started these silly awards. They're adding Sarah Jessica's not real award. And so I think we're going to see a whole change in the Globes where now it's a business, it's just about making money.

[Maureen Callahan]

Interesting. Interesting.

[Tim McKay]

Well, it's something about the tick tockers that go to these things now too. A lot of these events have ticked just, just like young people that are just gonna. They will get lots of attention.

[Rob Shooter]

So. And the people that own the Globes own all the trades. They literally own Variety, the Hollywood Reporter, their own deadline. And all those trades are running ads for your consideration for your Golden Globes.

[Maureen Callahan]

That's right.

[Rob Shooter]

So it's like the money's just going round. It's almost like money laundering.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's a circle. Yeah, yeah. And you know, I think this is really the run up to the Oscars, what happens at the Globes and then we'll have the SAG Awards and however many other independent spirit awards what have you. But I do think that one battle after another is like a lock for best picture.

[Rob Shooter]

You're right.

[Maureen Callahan]

And I think it's because what's going on in the news right now, I.

[Tim McKay]

Do, and I hate it because it's just. It's all for a narrative. I feel like it's all for like a big, like ha ha. Like we're winning because of. I don't know, I just don't like it.

[Rob Shooter]

I think it's a lock. I don't think he is though. I think Timothy and Leo are gonna fight it out till the death. And I think that today, what happens in just a few hours is gonna be really telling. I think think Timothy's gonna win.

[Maureen Callahan]

If Timothy wins, what is the affect? Are we still trying to play humble and aw shucks and. Or are we going to be feeling ourselves like the baller we are.

[Tim McKay]

It's not an Oscar, it's a Golden Globe.

[Rob Shooter]

I know, but you know, leading towards the Oscars. If I was him. If you're listening to Mathia Lowell, I would announce you're engaged net tomorrow. I would go go full contact. I'd be on the COVID of US Weekly. I'd be on the COVID of all the tabloids. If I was Timothy, this is the.

[Maureen Callahan]

Moment to use that celebrity really now. But do you think anybody's gonna buy it? Like, because the Kardashians are themselves this machine, this brand, and they generate narrative, they generate story.

[Tim McKay]

He's been with her for a while, so I feel like. Yeah, so, yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

But he often, like, dumps her and then he'll get back together. But it's, like, surprised I still.

[Rob Shooter]

That Kris Jenner is very instrumental in this campaign.

[Maureen Callahan]

That I believe that. I absolutely believe she's brilliant at it.

[Rob Shooter]

You know, for whatever you think of the Kardashians, Kris has turned these five really sort of average individuals into billionaires, a few of them. And so, like, you gotta tip your hat to Kris Jenner here. Is that if she's advising. Timothy, listen, what do you think, Tim?

[Maureen Callahan]

Do you think it's possible that Kris Jenner's sort of masterminding this from behind the scenes?

[Tim McKay]

I mean, I don't really think that they're in love. I don't know, but that's.

[Maureen Callahan]

You don't. I think she's in love with him. I don't know about him and her, but I. I don't think.

[Tim McKay]

Maybe. That's what I think.

[Maureen Callahan]

She takes a lot. I think she puts up with a lot of shit from him, a lot of humiliation.

[Tim McKay]

I think she does look up to him. I think she sees him, Timothy, as a serious actor who's getting a lot of attention and, like, using his talent to get that attention. And I think she might feel a little bit not insecure. I'm sure she doesn't feel insecure, but she might know. She might know that she doesn't really do a lot because besides, put her.

[Maureen Callahan]

Name on brands and say she's had no plastic surgery, just like Kendall said the other day, even though her original face bears no resemblance to her current face. You know what happened? Acne. She had an acne problem. And when that clears up, you know what tends to happen? Your nose reconstructs itself.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah.

[Tim McKay]

And your cheekbones get bigger and your lips get bigger, too.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. You refine. You refine in every way. Markle Disco 1000 from the live chat. Markle can buy a table at the Globe. Like, I mean, if they can.

[Rob Shooter]

Save us three seeds.

[Maureen Callahan]

SJP and Markle have the same annoying way of talking over leaf flowery word salad. Will Markle and Harris, I love that. Show up and buy a table? Lisa. Lisa. Where's Stedman? Where is Stedman? He is.

[Rob Shooter]

We've not seen him at all. Have we? No, no.

[Maureen Callahan]

The Nerve has been asking where Stedman is now since October. We actually emailed him directly and said, will you please let us know that you're safe and alive and well. No response. No response. I mean, on our Nerve awards, Teddy let us seal team 6 extraction to his last known location. We saw evidence that Oprah and Gail had been there. Will Oprah and Gail be here tonight?

[Rob Shooter]

Gail's there. I've seen Gail already.

[Maureen Callahan]

Gail's there. Can we get Gail?

[Rob Shooter]

Gail's, like, holding on to CBS shed lunch a couple of days ago with Barry Weiss, the new boss over there.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

And so Gail's holding on. So she was there. Cbs. One of the first on the carpets. And so I haven't seen Oprah yet.

[Tim McKay]

Oh, there's.

[Maureen Callahan]

I mean, where Gail goes, Oprah follows.

[Rob Shooter]

Well, normally where Oprah goes Gail, that's how she gets in. Like they, you know. You know.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, since Gail is now an astronaut, she has been to space. We have leveled up, so we don't need the big O so much anymore. Okay, let's see what else is going on in the live chat. Stedman is on an indefinite timeout. Stedman is living in a timeshare in Lake Havasu. Stedman is dating Obama. Rob's laughing is so great. Stedman is helping Ricky. Mickey Rourke do laundry. You guys are so effing funny. We are docked. Dying. We are dying. Oh, my God.

[Rob Shooter]

You should have the show. These. These. Your, your commenters, your.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, the troublemakers of the audience.

[Tim McKay]

They're part of the show always.

[Maureen Callahan]

They're always part of the show. I mean, Paul from New Zealand did our. Our backdrops over here. Okay, We've got Julia Roberts on the red carpet a lot. One of our last true movie stars. Let's take a look. She's coming in any minute. Oh, here we are.

[Tim McKay]

Well, look at that hair. I love it.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, the hair's gorgeous.

[Tim McKay]

It's very Lancome ad.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's got a lot of depth to it. Low lights, highlights. She's wearing. We don't know what she's wearing yet. We'll try to find out.

[Rob Shooter]

Isn't she the face of somebody? Oh, it's just a makeup brand, but I don't know if she's the face of a fashion brand, but I think that black suit that she does with the low cut on it, a tuxedo jacket is a classic Julia look. She recently said, which I thought was quite funny and very unlike Julia, that she initially turned down Notting Hill. She did she said that she thought it was effing stupid. And then she said she had dinner with the director and it was fun and she's glad she did it really. But initially she said no.

[Maureen Callahan]

I didn't know that. I read. So I read that. Speaking of things that she has said no to, if you've watched any of the press tour for Marty supreme that the director Josh Safdie is doing and he's been talking a lot. This was just on Amy Poehler's pod. She had him on and then she had Gwyneth on. He said, oh, I wrote this role for Gwyneth. Like the one thing an actress loves to hear is when I was a child watching your movies, you know, Gwyneth is not old. When I was a little kid jerking off to you and he's like, so I wrote this, I wrote this role of an aging movie star thinking of Gwyneth. You know, Gwynne is supposed to take this all as a compliment, but I've read, and I don't know if you guys have heard this, that Josh Safdie originally wanted Julia Roberts for that role, for Gwyneth's role. And Julia said no, it's going to look far too creepy if I am having sex with a 30 year old actor who looks like he's 12. Okay? I don't care how old he is. We all know what people are going into think. And they kept going to her with like more and more money. I think at one point they went to her with like 20 million and she was like, no, I'm not doing it. And smart move. I think smart move. I mean, Gwyneth by all accounts is good in this movie. But like that was smart and she did instead after the Hunt, for which she was also paid I think 20 million. I think that's just her quote and I. But there are a couple of things I love about this look. It's classy, it's age appropriate and she is dressed like someone who knows she is not going to wear win. It's not her night, it's another actress's night.

[Rob Shooter]

So smart. This is not a winner's look. You're right. It's a movie star look. It looks like you're part of the party, you're part of the crowd. And so no, I think, I think you, I think you're right. Yeah, I'm gonna look out for that now moving forward.

[Tim McKay]

Yeah, I checked it out. You told me to watch the movie the other day and I did. I watched it and I saw exactly what you meant, like, about why I might like it?

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah.

[Tim McKay]

I liked. I liked that she was challenging the younger generation. I like that she was challenging. And it kind of had some pacing issues, but I think that she was good in it, though.

[Maureen Callahan]

We'll talk about that movie more in depth. It's a movie with something to say. And what I also love about it is that Julia doesn't mind playing unlikable. And I love an actress who is not afraid to play unlikable, unlike, say, a Tom Hanks was to be the hero in every single goddamn movie. You know what I mean?

[Tim McKay]

Yeah.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, so we've got George Clooney on the red carpet. Your pal from the theater, Rob.

[Tim McKay]

Oh, look at her model.

[Rob Shooter]

Wow.

[Maureen Callahan]

Amal who? This dress. This is a Cindy Crawford dress. This is a reference to Cindy Crawford, I think, on the red carpet at the Oscars with Richard gere, like, in 85.

[Rob Shooter]

That's where it is. And they're good friends.

[Maureen Callahan]

And they're good friends. He's been longtime friends with good buddies. He and Randy Gerber sold their Casamigos for like a billion dollars. And they're longtime friends of Randy and C. Cindy Crawford. So I think that's a very interesting choice for. For Amal to make. That is. That dress is an homage. It's almost a direct copy. But they look incredible. They do look incredible.

[Rob Shooter]

They look like movie stars. And there's so many people now that don't. I like it. I do like it. I know they're annoying, but there's just something about these. These visuals on the carpet. And I do love, too, that we don't hear them speak. I like to watch these shows. Not our show, but these red carpet shows on mute. I just want to see.

[Maureen Callahan]

You do. I don't want to hear the interviews.

[Rob Shooter]

I don't want to hear it.

[Maureen Callahan]

I know. They're so uncomfortable.

[Tim McKay]

I've seen and not heard anything.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah. Seen and not heard. It's so uncomfortable when you see someone with, like, the cue cards and it's like, you know, oh, you know, and.

[Rob Shooter]

They'Re not good at this. They're not good at talking. They're good at saying.

[Maureen Callahan]

They're good at saying other people's words.

[Rob Shooter]

Like, they're not great at their own words. So watch it with the sound off. But Julia, you look like a movie star.

[Maureen Callahan]

Julia looks great. That's how it is done.

[Rob Shooter]

And now it's heating up time wise. A little secret of these shows, the bigger the movie star, the later they.

[Maureen Callahan]

The later they arrive.

[Rob Shooter]

I was at The Golden Globes once. And Jennifer Aniston wanted to be the last star on the carpet. And she almost got locked out. She got there so late. They were closing the door.

[Maureen Callahan]

If only they had done that for Timothy. Shuttle Ding dong at the Critics Choice award. He was 90 minutes late. Ding at the Critics choice Awards. Locked him out.

[Rob Shooter]

They would lock you out. The Golden Globes.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, my God. Okay, we've got a man. Amanda Seyfried. I'm never sure how to say her name. Seyfried. Seyfried. Oh, wow. Okay. She's starring in the Housemaid right now with Sydney Sweeney and she is looking very old Hollywood. I think this is an emerging theme. I think old Hollywood. You know, it's interesting because first of all, this look is gorgeous. It's all white. It's a body hugging silhouette. She's got a beautiful diamond necklace on. The hair I think is perfect and the makeup I think is perfect. I love your take on that. But I feel like Hollywood is like going backwards because it realizes that the forward way is not. It's falling apart. You know, there seems to be a lot of remember who we are. Remember what we mean to the American economy and psyche. Like, we are. We are Hollywood.

[Rob Shooter]

Yeah. But I think they're ultimately going to lose. Like, it's changing and we don't know where it's going yet. We haven't figured it out yet. But looking back is probably never always the answer. Never the answer. But I think they look great there. What's interesting to me is we haven't seen a lot of diamonds tonight. That's one of the first.

[Maureen Callahan]

That's so true. What do you think that's about, Rob?

[Rob Shooter]

I think that they want to look young and cool and hip. And I don't think those big statement pieces are what people now are looking like on TikTok. Even costume jewelry is not selling like it used to. Used to sell.

[Maureen Callahan]

Brooches are big.

[Rob Shooter]

Brooches.

[Maureen Callahan]

Brooches are big.

[Rob Shooter]

On Timothy. Timothy will have a brooch.

[Maureen Callahan]

Timothy will probably have a brooch. Keri Russell wore a brooch. Oh, here he comes, you guys. Timmy just rolled up. We've got to get him. We've got to get Timmy. Oh, my God. You guys are gonna die. You're gonna die. Okay. Like, I can't. Let me see if the troublemakers have anything to say about this. Can't stand these actresses who think they are just the treasure in the crown. Basically all of the actresses in the entire Jennifer Lawrence age group. Amanda's shoes are Too big. Timmy ping pong. Just a arrived Solo. He's solo. According to the troublemakers. He's solo. The they think that they're not wearing diamonds so they can try to look relatable. I would think in this economy as well.

[Rob Shooter]

That's true. Good point.

[Maureen Callahan]

Markle would rock some diamonds. Diamonds are out. Ping pong bags is in. Maureen loves the makeup. Tim did a great job.

[Tim McKay]

Thank you.

[Maureen Callahan]

Troublemaker. I am writing my last will and testament as Timmy rolls up. I can't breathe. Stedman is buried with all the diamonds. No orange. Timmy ping pong.

[Rob Shooter]

Timmy ping pong. I used to work for a little bit for De Be as diamonds and they used to have these suites where celebrities would come in and they'd really want them to wear these massive, massive necklaces. And one of the reasons the celebrities liked is all the security guards on the carpet is not for the celebrity, it's for the diarrhea. And I think the rule was for every half a million the necklace was worth, you had to have one security guard. So if you had a two million dollar necklace, you looked like you were a big deal because you have all facade with you and then literally they take those necklaces off you that night.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, yes. They follow you.

[Rob Shooter]

They follow you and it is gone. The dress, you can trash that all night long, but the minute you'll notice, if you see some after parties, the necklaces won't be there.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Tim McKay]

I've been on music video shoots with rappers that are covered in rings and all these big necklaces and chains. And then as soon as they said cut, there was something that came over, took it all off.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's not there.

[Rob Shooter]

And if there was some, God forbid, disturbance, they're protected the necklace, not you.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You're collateral. Forget that blood diamonds are out. Balls of fury was amazing. It was amazing. Kylie will be inside waiting for him. Good theory. She's probably just skipping the red carpet.

[Rob Shooter]

But why? But why? But that's a question. Because I just blew what my prediction was, which is they would get engaged or that Kris Jenner was running this campaign, then I'm wrong. If she's not on that carpet, somebody has told them Research assault told them that it's not working. If he wants an Oscar, which we know he wants more than anything.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, more than anything.

[Rob Shooter]

Tonight is not about this. It's about the Oscars for Timmy. And so if agents, if managers, if researchers said she's pulling you down, that would be a reason he's not with her. Tonight if she was dealing with.

[Maureen Callahan]

But that's exactly what I mean when I say she puts up with a lot of humiliation.

[Rob Shooter]

Tonight, the biggest night of his life so far, before the Oscars, the Golden Globes. I'd be really pissed that he doesn't want to walk the car.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, my God. Yes. It's saying I'm embarrassed to be.

[Rob Shooter]

That's what he's saying.

[Maureen Callahan]

You humiliate me. Yes.

[Rob Shooter]

You're a j. I'm not gonna win because of you.

[Maureen Callahan]

And guess what's more important to me? That little six inch trophy is more important to me than my relationship with this girl who wants to marry him. Clearly. And by the way, not for, like, I know we're talking about Kardashians, but she's got kids. And. And as Chris Rock used to say, you don't f. Around with a single mother. With a woman who has kids, you either shit or get off the pot. Go ask Sarah Jessica Parker. She could probably loan you a term. Timmy. Oh, no, sorry. You've got your own over here. What am I thinking? It's Timmy's turds. Okay, we do have Timmy. Marlena got it really fast here.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh, baller.

[Maureen Callahan]

Baller. We're wearing sunglasses that we barely are able to.

[Tim McKay]

His little necklace, like a little neck. Is that a name necklace?

[Rob Shooter]

Better say Kylie.

[Tim McKay]

It might say.

[Rob Shooter]

Better say Kylie.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, that's worth nothing.

[Tim McKay]

Or does it say Marty?

[Maureen Callahan]

Might say Marty.

[Rob Shooter]

It's say Marty. It's say ping pong. He looks awful.

[Tim McKay]

It says Palm.

[Rob Shooter]

He looks like he could just be walking to the supermarket. It looks like not even a Friday night in New York. He looks like he's going to the gym.

[Maureen Callahan]

He really does. It's such a swerve. What do you think, Tim, of that look?

[Tim McKay]

Do you think it has to do with his, like, campaign with Marty Supreme? Like, wasn't his whole, like, is that his thing lately that he's kind of underdressing, that he's trying to be like, this Mr. Cool guy? Is that his, like.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, he showed up up at the critics chat, besides the orange in, like, this horrible suit.

[Tim McKay]

So without. So actually, that blows that out.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, actually, it almost looks like. This is what I think. I could be wrong, but this is my judgment at the moment. I think that he is trying to temper his utter desperation for these awards by dressing down a little bit by being a little too cool to care in the wardrobe department. But it's not offsetting his utter gagging. Like, he may as well have a ball gag in his mouth. Where a Golden Globe should be for this award. And I also think that when they show up in sunglasses and it's still sunny out that they've been doing some illegal substances for the show.

[Rob Shooter]

Maybe he had a rough night last night. Maybe Kylie's babies were keeping him up. Maybe he's been babysitting or maybe something else. But I think you're right. But it's not the moment to be too cool for school.

[Tim McKay]

Do you think he dresses down when, like you were saying earlier that when you're afraid that you might not win, do you think that that might have something to do with it?

[Maureen Callahan]

No. You know what I think happened too? The hacks duo who showed up on the red carpet mocking him and we all laughed and it was so freaking funny. I think he. I think that stung. I think that really stung.

[Rob Shooter]

I think stung. And I also think too, I think that neither votes are in. He made a fool of himself to win tonight. Right now he switched gears for the office Oscars and the Oscars don't like this shenanigans. So I think we're going to see a new Timmy now for the next couple of weeks while the Oscar voting is going on. But I think his shenanigans are going to pay off in two hours. I think he's going to win.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, there again, like I think aren't these, these awards as we were just discussing. Discussing disgusting Freudian slip. They're bought and paid for anyway. But I see this is the play, Rob, and we've been talking about this. That I don't understand. I think if Timothy really wants it in a series. Serious, you bring mommy. Bradley Cooper used to trot his mother out every award. Got that Oscar.

[Rob Shooter]

But mommy being there tonight is not going to help him win the globe. The votes are in. It's done.

[Maureen Callahan]

No, I know.

[Rob Shooter]

Mommy was set up.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oscar for Oscar was saying to Oscar voters, I'm a good boy. My priorities are in order.

[Rob Shooter]

Although I do think he might be getting advice that because he is so young looking and he just looks so boyish, he doesn't want to look like.

[Maureen Callahan]

Good point.

[Rob Shooter]

Like if you're, if you're Bradley Cooper, you're a man, you can bring your mom.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, he was until this most recent facial feminizing surgery.

[Rob Shooter]

But I don't think Tibby wants to tell the world that he's still a little boy. He's now a man.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, you're so right. The troublemakers are saying that he looks pre pubescent.

[Tim McKay]

He does.

[Maureen Callahan]

Timmy ping pong Would hate trolling by the track. By the. By the hacks, people. Stedman is at home watching Ancient Aliens. Kylie is working with Andrew and Stedman at the Pizza Hut. Of course Ethan Hawke should win, but Timmy is so needy. Timmy reminds me of Alfred E. Newman. Ethan Hawke showed up, by the way. Nerve hq. If we could get Ethan, that would be amazing. Yeah. This is the. Oh, and people are liking our live stream, which is great. We're very happy that we're entertaining you guys.

[Rob Shooter]

Thank you. It's flying by.

[Maureen Callahan]

It is flying by. We only have, like about seven more minutes till the show. Till the show.

[Rob Shooter]

And do they cut us off then? Like, all the feeds are cut.

[Maureen Callahan]

We're done at eight. As the. As the. As the awards get underway at 8 o'. Clock. And we're. So. We're gonna try to take a look at Ethan Hawke before we show our final clip of the evening.

[Rob Shooter]

And then. Don't we have another show on Monday to recap? Aren't you.

[Maureen Callahan]

We're gonna be recapping the globes and that will be dropping on Tuesday. Our regular nerve on Tuesday will be a recap of the globes.

[Rob Shooter]

Good.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, please take the MM pin down, Maureen. Oh, I can't. I'm sorry. I can't. She's gotta stay in her grotto with her. As ever. Bubbly. Which I've been told by those who've tried it is undrinkable. Even alcoholics wouldn't go near it. As if they'd sooner have cough medicine.

[Rob Shooter]

I just said. No.

[Maureen Callahan]

It's just they're. They're. They're very happy with you guys. For Ethan O. Another troublemaker is my forever crush. Stedman is space junk. Gail dumped him out there. Best theory of the night. Stedman is watching the nerve from zero bar 30 bunker. Oh, my God.

[Rob Shooter]

Do you think he put on weight? Is he hiding from us? Like.

[Maureen Callahan]

I don't think.

[Rob Shooter]

What is happening?

[Maureen Callahan]

I don't think so. Oprah just talked about how Stedman now could carry her to the pool in her new Oz epic body. Okay. This is so great. Hand sanitizer over Meghan's wine. Hand sanitizer.

[Tim McKay]

Stronger buzz. That's for sure.

[Rob Shooter]

Just what's gonna happen to Megan.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, and Claire Danes is on the red carpet too, right now. Claire Danes of the over emotion. Very.

[Rob Shooter]

It is.

[Tim McKay]

With a kiss of makeup on.

[Maureen Callahan]

Is that what it's called?

[Rob Shooter]

A kiss of makeup on?

[Tim McKay]

With a kiss of makeup on.

[Rob Shooter]

I like that. I see her running on the west side Highway. Oh, do you really over Emotes while she's running.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, that doesn't surprise me.

[Rob Shooter]

Oh.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, we're. Oh, my God. She's doing too much.

[Rob Shooter]

Stop acting.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, we can take a look at Mila Kunis while they try to find Ethan for us. And so we have a lot to talk about with Mila Kunis because her husband, one time, Diddy, BFF Ashton Kutcher, has been asking around, did she have a chance at a comeback? We're gonna take it. We're gonna take care of that on a later nerve. I don't like this. I don't like what she's wearing.

[Rob Shooter]

No, I don't like curtains. Doesn't it. It does look like that.

[Maureen Callahan]

The nerve is moving the needle.

[Rob Shooter]

It's Grandma Curtis. And the fact she's not with Ashton tells you this.

[Tim McKay]

They're both going to have a comeback.

[Rob Shooter]

She was going to have a comeback.

[Maureen Callahan]

This is a night not on the. The red carpet with Ashton Kutcher.

[Rob Shooter]

She don't want that.

[Tim McKay]

He's about to be in a new show. And she was just in that movie. Wake up Dead man. She was the biggest miscast in that whole movie.

[Rob Shooter]

She was a miscast, wasn't she? Yeah, the whole. Where's Ashton? Like, this is the biggest night. Millions of people are watching, though.

[Tim McKay]

Unless he's filming.

[Maureen Callahan]

He is there.

[Rob Shooter]

But not walking with her.

[Maureen Callahan]

But that still matters. Oh, she says he was, but, I don't know, photographed with her. These are. These things matter, matter.

[Rob Shooter]

These little details. These little.

[Maureen Callahan]

All right, these are details that we'll forensically get into. Oh, we do have Ethan Hawken. Hawke. Real fast before we get to our final guy, Ethan. We love a troublemaker in here. In the live chat, said, I wish Ethan would fix his teeth. And I say, no, no, they are part of his charm. Yeah.

[Rob Shooter]

And stay away from that Walter Goggins. He'll make fun of your team. He looks great. He looks so good.

[Maureen Callahan]

Walt Goggins out with one look at him. He looks great. Total, total cool, you know? Who does he remind me of? He's like a throwback to those 70s actors. Yeah, like a Kurt Russell or like a Sam. Who's Sam? What's his name? He's just. He's. He looks so. He's got a bowl of tie on.

[Tim McKay]

Oh, is that what it's called?

[Maureen Callahan]

Nod to his Texas roots.

[Rob Shooter]

That's what it is.

[Maureen Callahan]

He's got. He's. He's really groomed. Expertly, but he looks like himself. Just an. Like Meghan Markle would approve. An elevated version of Ethan and he.

[Tim McKay]

Looks like he has a little bit of a tan on it. Looks much better than Walter Goggins, as you're saying. His hand looks much more natural.

[Rob Shooter]

He's a better looking. He's like a Walter Goggins Avatar.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh, I just think that. I just think they're apples and oranges. I really do. Because Ethan's cool without really trying too hard to be cool. He doesn't try. He just is. Walt Goggins is posing naked on like wrought iron furniture, smoking a cigarette and like trying to seduce the cat. That's a guy who's trying too hard.

[Tim McKay]

You got a point.

[Rob Shooter]

You've got a point. You got a point.

[Tim McKay]

Did you see the Glass Onion?

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, I did.

[Tim McKay]

And Ethan took the smallest little role in that movie and he was just so cool with it. Like he didn't need to be the movie star of the movie. He took like. He literally was the guy that gave you the COVID shot in your mouth. That's not real.

[Maureen Callahan]

He understands the assignment.

[Tim McKay]

It was hilarious.

[Rob Shooter]

That movie made. That movie would never have been made had he not backed it. It was his production company.

[Maureen Callahan]

Which movie?

[Rob Shooter]

The Blue Moon. The Blue Moon, which he did with Richard Link later.

[Maureen Callahan]

And we're going to talk about that at a later date. Those two collaborators who are like, they have made some incredible movies. The before trilogies are among my favorite modern movies. Boyhood. Incredible. Anyway, so we'll talk about those two later. We're going to close it out with what I believe is the scene of the year. Timothy Shyamalama ping pong. Sorry. Sean Penn is the real one who's got you beat. Check out this scene in which Sean Penn is anally violated by. You will never guess what. In one battle after another.

[Rob Shooter]

Right there.

[Maureen Callahan]

Ah, there we go. The money shot. Sean practically orgasming as his white supremacist character is having sex with a black woman who shoves his own gun up his ass.

[Rob Shooter]

Do you think Madonna. Do you think Madonna ever did that to him? No, no.

[Maureen Callahan]

He did tie her up, allegedly. Reportedly, I believe it. And pistol whipped her and. Yes. So anyway, anyway, you know, it's what goes around comes around. Goes around comes around. You guys, this has been an incredible Golden Globes livestream. It flew. It flew.

[Rob Shooter]

That's always the best time. We've done so many different TV shows and some of them are a dredge.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, it takes a while to get. Yeah. Super fun.

[Rob Shooter]

We could keep going.

[Maureen Callahan]

We could keep going. Thanks to all the troublemakers who are chiming in throughout the night on the live chat. We will see you back here on Tuesday for a Golden Globes recap with Rob. You'll be joining at the Nerve, where you will never guess what we're about to say next. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co founder of Angie. When you use Angie for your home projects, you know all your jobs will be done well, from roof repair to emergency plumbing and more done well. So the next time you have a home project, leave it to the pros. Get [e-mail] real talent is defined by.

[Rob Shooter]

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