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Liz Gilbert’s Twisted Mind, US Open’s ‘Grit’ Shortage, and Oprah Touts Emma Willis’ Shameful Memoir
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Maureen eviscerates ‘Eat, Pray, Love’ author, Liz Gilbert, who is pimping a new memoir that exploits the life and legacy of her deceased girlfriend. She exposes her depths of Gilbert’s dark behaviors with the self-proclaimed self-help guru’s own testimonial about expediting the death of her life partner, Rayya, who was already dying of cancer. Then Maureen points to the lack of “grit” at this year’s US Open, as exhibited by many meltdowns on the court. She also unleashes on both Oprah and her latest pet project, Emma Willis, crucifying them for shamelessly exploiting her husband's illness. Lean: Visit https://TakeLean.com & use code Nerve for 20% off Aware House: Visit https://awarehouseshop.com/discount/THENERVE & use code THENERVE for 15% off your first order. Pique: Get 20% off your order plus a FREE frother & glass beaker with this exclusive link: https://piquelife.com/THENERVE
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She is out promoting a new book and she's using her dead girlfriend's body, memory and reputation to do it. Liz, by the way, was brought to us by none other, you know, originally brought to us by none other than that mistress of dark arts herself, Oprah Winfrey, who has just hosted the widow Emma Willis. Premature, you say? I say we're, you know, working it out on the public stage, just waiting for it to come. Not since Jackie are we going to see a widow like this. And you know, Jackie's a saint over here. I the nerve. But anyway, Emma is flogging her memoir about how sick her husband Bruce Willis is and how hard it is for her and it's all under the guise of helping other caregivers. And I have a lot to say about this as you know, so. And you know, sure. I mean, she's got great advice. She really knows what it's like because everybody, most everybody, just like Emma Willis is sitting on multi millions of dollars that Bruce Willis earned for them over decades. So yeah, Emma's gonna have a lot of really relevant advice for the people out there suffering through it minute by minute. We are also in happier, happier news. We're gonna go through your emails. We've got new troublemaker artwork as well. You guys continue to just kill it. Plus, we're gonna talk a little bit about these epic meltdowns that are happening among these younger players at the US Open, which I watch with my mouth just agape. And to me this goes to something really larger, which is the vanishing characteristic of grit in the culture. Also speaking of grit, Prince Harry has demands for the royal family And I think he has this negotiation backward. You know, he's scheduled to go meet with his father, King Charles in London next week. We'll see if that holds. See if he doesn't blow this up before he even gets on a plane, you know, but what else is new? What else is new? And by the way, Harry's demands, some of them reportedly, allegedly go to what he would like. For one, Rachel Meghan Markle. We also have a tribute to Giorgio Armani, the legendary fashion designer who died yesterday at age 91. He. He changed Hollywood costuming. He made minimalism. Minimalism, excuse me, a symbol of true luxury long before Calvin Klein thought to do it. Calvin Klein. Giorgio Armani walked so Klein could run. Okay, and Jennifer Aniston's back. You know, you know what she's telling us how to look as youthful and rested as she does. And she's gonna give you her secret. Guess what? It's free. And we have a mini tease. And then we have just a dose more Kennedy camp. And this is courtesy of one Ryan Murphy packed. I told you, right? Let's go. Are you a yo yo dieter or what's also called a weight cycler? You diet, lose the weight only to gain it all back again and then some. And then you lose the weight again only to regain it. And on and on and on the this torturous cycle goes. It is so common. It's common, but it's also really, really dangerous. 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The media is going to roll out the red carpet for her and they already have begun to do so. But come over here, troublemakers. Come and I will tell you a story. Elizabeth Gilbert is the ultra bestselling author of Eat, Pray Love. I believe that this book, this memoir was as ruinous to generations of women as Sex and the City. I do. And it was mainstreamed by none other than as referenced at the top, one Oprah Winfrey who treated Liz, Liz Gilbert from suburban New Jersey. I believe she's from suburban New Jersey. We'll check that. As an oracle, as a modern day sage, as, oh my God, I'm beginning to smack my lips like in contempt like Bill Maher. Save me, troublemakers. Save me. Anyway, Liz also likes to call herself something, or she styles herself rather as a guru and a cult leader. And that's really her lane now. And you know why? Because she shaved her head. She shaved her head. She's trying to look like a Buddha. And we all know what the Buddha rule is here. Okay, I have got an email from a troublemaker to reinforce it in a little bit. Now I also, in all seriousness, I am not being flip or facetious. I think that Elizabeth Gilbert is a very, very, very dangerous person. I think Elizabeth Gilbert is a psychopath. And like the cultural prosecutor I love to be, I'm going to prosecute my case before you my troublemakers, and then you tell me if you think I'm on the right path here. Okay? Now a quick table setting, a quick recap of Eat Proof, Pray Love. In case you are unfamiliar, Liz is a young married woman doing fine in her career, married to a really nice guy. They've got enough money, you know, really no problems. But in super dramatic fashion, she opens this book. To the best of my recollection. She's on the bathroom floor in the middle of the night in like the fetal position, weeping. And she doesn't know what's wrong, but she knows she has to leave her husband, even though she tells us in the book there was absolutely nothing wrong with him and there was absolutely nothing wrong with their marriage, but she just had to go. So, as one does, you go get a big fat book advance from a big fat publisher and then you go travel the world and you go on a voyage or in today's parlance, a journey, a journey of self discovery. And then of course, she meets another man on her travels and she falls in love with him and her book has a happy ending for like a hot minute. Okay, now I first wrote about Elizabeth Gilbert back in 2019 for the new York Post. Raya, who was her best friend turned girlfriend, a woman she left husband number two for, had already died. So here are a few things to know about Elizabeth Gilbert that have long since been forgotten and they are very, very important. Okay, so I'm going to quote from that piece just for these purposes, not because I think I'm so great. Okay? And so I'm going to quote from it in a lengthy profile for the New York Times. Gilbert, who in 2014 produced and starred in a nearly 20 minute YouTube video to sell her nearly $1 million New Jersey estate, guiding viewers through a giant walk in steam bath with Tunisian tiles, a 1400 square foot attic that's the size of most homes in America. Okay, a 1400 square foot attic redone as not her library, but her skybrary, her fancy stove, her mar, her marble fireplace, her Japanese bidet. I'm sure it was like a $50,000 Toto toilet, at least an elaborate herb garden. Hey, Meghan Markle. Someone did it first and did it best. Now, Elizabeth Gilbert then declined the New York Times reporter's request to meet her at her new apartment. It seemed a curiously impersonal choice, said the Times, for a woman who has made a career out of sharing the details, the quotidian, the intimate, the truly harrowing of her personal life in memoirs, essays and speaking tours, and all manner of social media. Now, what this journalist didn't get in his or her naivete. That was for money. Wake up. That was for money, sister. I'm assuming it's a woman. What do I know? Okay, anyway, then I mentioned that Gilbert had recently told New York magazine's the Cut that she lived in a really small apartment in Manhattan. Now, she had relocated and downsized to like a 600 square foot apartment in Manhattan. That's a Studio. That's a studio. So then I asked, could Elizabeth Gilbert, who once told wealth simple, quote, there is no amount of money so huge that a person can't blow through it if they aren't thinking straight, could she have blown through her money? If that question seems churlish, I asked, Please note that this is a woman who recently posted this to her then 476,000 followers on Instagram, quote, I will always share anything personal about my life. If it could help someone else feel more normal about their life after E, pray, love. To that point, Elizabeth Gilbert had earned a reported $10 million. Okay, again, it's transactional, though with Elizabeth Gilbert, she'll share if she can make some money out of you. You are her mark. She is a con woman and everybody out there is a mark for her. Make no mistake. And anybody who's thinking of buying this book that she's got coming out or has pre ordered this book, I would urge you to reconsider and ask for your money back. Okay? Now, it's not just Elizabeth Gilbert excavating her own life. She's always using people in her immediate circle. Most usually they're her partners, her romantic partners. They're usually the ones who are, like, going to pay for this. They're going to pay. Liz is going to use you and she's going to reveal all of your deepest, darkest secrets, what she's doing to this woman, Rhea, in this book. I have questions, okay? I have questions because Ray is dead. She's not here to defend herself. And it seems as if Elizabeth had kind of isolated Rhea in this apartment in New York City and not many people were in or out and nobody saw them. And Liz in one profile in the New Yorker says, basically or in New York magazine, one of the two. Like, I was writing these emails making everything sound great. Like, Ray was really stoic and I was the best caretaker on the planet and we were super positive and everything was great and it was all a lie. So we're dealing with a liar, and not just in that way, okay? But a real liar. Now, as I quoted her talking to the Sydney Morning Herald, what got me through the grief of losing Raya, Gilbert said, and continues to do so, is a tremendous pride in knowing what I did, what I sacrificed, what I gave up. I, I, I, I, I. She also began dating Raya's beloved friend, Simon MacArthur, after Raya died. With anyone else, I would give them the benefit of the doubt. I would say this is a transference of grief, trauma, bonding, what have you. But I Think Liz Gilbert is a cold blooded lizard masquerading as a. As a human being. So, no. Now back to that post piece. Liz said that she left her second husband, who was a major character in Eat, Pray, Love, a key part of that recovery arc, that's she's. She's not talking about him anymore, out of loyalty. I'm gonna guess this, I'm gonna guess that when they sat down to get divorced, that Liz gave him a hefty piece of money and she made him sign an NDA, or he made her sign an NDA and, like, you can't use me for material which, like, smart, smart, smart. He knew exactly who he was dealing with. Now, as I wrote again in this piece, and people are gonna forget this. And when Elizabeth Gilbert goes on her media tour, I would implore any producer, Pennsylvania researcher, journalist, TV host to go back and do the reading. Because in 2015, Elizabeth Gilbert wrote an essay called Confessions of a Seduction Addict, in which she wrote of the premeditated. Premeditated, excuse me, methodical, heartless ways that she deliberately broke up couples, that she deliberately wrecked people's families and lives, all because she felt like it. If the man was already in a committed relationship, Gilbert wrote, no, man, man, okay? She's heterosexual. She used this woman for content. Trust me, if the man was already in a committed relationship, I knew, Gilbert wrote that I didn't need to be prettier or better than his existing girlfriend. I just needed to be different. The trick was to study the other woman and to become her opposite, thereby positioning myself to this man as a sparkling alternative to his regular life. Once she got the guy, she wrote, she'd, quote, break into his deepest vault, steal all his emotional currency and spend it on myself. End quote. Before getting bored and moving on to. To her next target. So this is a psychopath. She is out there hiding in plain sight with her shaved head and her stupid fucking glasses and that insufferable smile with her face up in front of her iPhone camera on Instagram all day long, writing newsletters to her cult members, her followers, telling them she has all the answers to life. Okay? She is taking you all through for a ride and she's. She's harming people. Trust me. Just my opinion. She is harming people. She means ill. She is a bad person. She is not a good person. She just told us herself. Now, for those of you who still might be saying, you know what, Maureen, you're being a little harsh on her, okay, maybe that was a different life. Maybe that was a different Time. Maybe she therapized herself out of it. Maybe she took another trip to India and fetishized an entire culture as a white western woman. Let's get real then. Let's talk some cultural appropriation. Anyway, I don't think you could get darker than this. And only in outlets like New York magazine and the New Yorker would this pass without comment. Elizabeth Gilbert writes in this book that she had planned to murder Rhea, that she had planned to swap out Ray's medication and she was going to give her a dose of something like, I forget exactly what it was because Rayya was on so many drugs. She had cancer. She was on so many drugs for pain. But she was going to swap out that medication, knock Rayya unconscious, and then she was going to take a pillow and smother Rayya to death. And this is not framed as a compassionate act. I mean, Elizabeth Gilbert writes about how out of her mind she was. And she was so fed up with taking care of Rhea, she wasn't dying fast enough to write this book. My opinion. And then she tells, she tells Raya, Rhea catches on to her plan. And Liz says, yeah, I was going to. I was going to murder you. You caught me. That was my plan. And she says, raya appro. And not only approved, but said, Liz, you know, you really found your inner. Your inner bitch, your inner darkness. You want to tell me Oprah Winfrey didn't recognize a like minded dark soul when Liz Gilbert crossed her path? Now, according to the New Yorker magazine, the copy of which I have here, and you know, irony of ironies, it's a woman wearing a Pinocchio nose. And inside is this really glowing piece on Liz Gilbert's book by one Gia Tolentino, who, you know, again, she's a pet of the mainstream media. They love Gia Tolentino. She's. She's brilliant. Gia gives Liz a very serious, glowing book review in the pages of the New Yorker right here. Again, legacy media wonders why it's dying. You have a major fucking story in your fucking face of a best selling author who says, I was going to murder my girlfriend and I had it all planned out down to how I was going to smother her like Tony Soprano with a pillow over Livia's face. And we, we treat it like it's so cute. She's a hipster quirk. It's a bug, not a feature. It's the feature. It's who this woman is. She's got thousands, if not millions of devoted fans and she is a dangerous person. You know, she writes this. She writes to her followers on Instagram. She calls them dear ones and she capitalizes it, capital D, capital O, Dear ones. It's like she's Kim Jong un and she really may as well be. Okay, so I'm going to quote a little bit from Ji Ah's piece. Her meaning Gilbert's temperament is so strong and her outlook so positive that she never actually seems broken on the page. When she writes about indecision and confusion, she comes off as clear and decisive. I guess if you're planning to murder somebody, you are pretty fucking clear and decisive. Gia. Right? Now, Gia goes on to write that. Liz, in this book, she writes about the plan. Gia writes about it. She writes about Liz's writing about this plan, okay? And so here's Gia paraphrasing that part from Elizabeth Gilbert's book. When Gilbert confesses. This is a quote. When Gilbert confesses that she planned to murder her, Rhea calls it quote fucking awesome. Exclaiming quote. You found your darkness, dude. Elizabeth Gilbert is quoting a dead woman. Chia. Any journalist knows double source your facts. If your mother tells you she loves you, get a second source. That is the oldest saw in journalism now. So New York magazine, the Cut, I printed it out. This is the. This is the art that they used, okay? So this is a fucking love story. According to the Cut, New York Magazine, this is a love story. Look at them. And by the way, every photo that runs of. Of. Of Elizabeth Gilbert with Raya, Raya's on the fucking nod, okay? Raya is a heroin addict. She is a drug addict. She is a reprobate. She is nodding out in every photo. And Liz makes it look like Rhea's just taking a nap. Ray is sick and she's just taking a nap. And she's got her head nuzzled into the nape of my neck. And you know who's always framed up perfectly and lit perfectly and looks great, Liz. It's very much. It's ghoulish in the way. There is something very ghoulish happening in the culture right now. Something very ghoulish in book publishing right now and in the media. It's the same way that Emma Willis, like, poses her husband, her dying, demented husband, Bruce. I use that word, demented medically, making him look as though he's in bliss with his eyes closed. And he's just so, you know. And then Emma warms her head in there in the nape of his neck so she can look like this super loving partner. These women are vultures, okay? They're Vultures. But according to New York Magazine, they headline this. This extract of Elizabeth Gilbert's book, my once in a million years love story. The readout, when my best friend was diagnosed with cancer, I promised to be there until the end, by the way. Liz skips out. As I said, Ray wasn't dying fast enough. And then the readout finishes. Then all hell broke loose. And just in terms of another crime, this is terrible writing. Terrible writing. You should never use a cliche, ever. As a writer, one should know this. As an editor, one should sure as fuck know that. Never say, then all hell broke loose. Okay? There is nothing more trite than all hell broke loose. Nothing more trite. And hell really can't break loose. If you do believe in hell, it's somewhere, like, in situ. How can it break loose? All right, okay, now this lengthy, lengthy. I mean, this thing is like 37 pages long when I printed it out. Okay? This. This extract. So Liz. So Ray gets diagnosed with cancer. She goes under treatment for a while, and then she decides she doesn't want treatment anymore. And what she really wants to do is use this to just get high all the time. She was sober. Now she wants to get high and drink and, like, smoke and just do all the things she wants to do. And Liz is like, great, I'll do that with you. So they. They've begun using drugs together, and Liz says they're getting out of their minds now. This is the author who Gia Tolentino in the New Yorker just told us never presents on the page as broken. Gia, did you actually do the reading? I quote from the extract. Raya was the one who officially had no future. This is Liz writing, but I was now acting as if I didn't have one either. I dropped everything I was working on and completely forgo about anything I had ever cared about before her cancer diagnosis. Blew off working on the novel I'd been researching for two years. Sure. Her publisher loved that. Canceled most of my publicity appearances for the paperback publication of my book. Big Magic. Same. Publishers love when you do that. Do you know what a privilege it is to get a book deal in this marketplace? And it's been a contracting marketplace for a very long time. Do you know what a privilege that is? Elizabeth's over here taking a big dump over. Over all of it. She then tells us, I canceled all of my upcoming speaking events, interviews and workshops. Canceled production of my podcast. Sure. The people who were getting a paycheck, working on your pod loved that. Stopped calling my friends, told my family to leave me Alone, that I'd catch up with them later, started divorce proceedings. This is a person. I mean, who would want to spend any amount of time with this person, let alone purchase her book, to spend time in this fucked up psyche New York Magazine thought it was worth. I'm sure they paid, like, I don't know, in Today's Marketplace, maybe 2, maybe 5, maybe $5,000 for this extract. Okay, now we're going to jump ahead a bit to when Liz says she lost herself to Rhea's darkness. And again, it's not Liz who's to blame here. And I quote, did I completely lose my mind that night in the spring of 2017 when she, Raya, commanded me to give her some cash so she could buy that first gram of cocaine? And I did it without hesitation. In my weak defense. She had looked me straight in the eyes and told me, quote, this is the exact amount of cocaine that will last me until I die. I die. Trust me, I'm just going to need a tiny amount of coke each day. Trust me, I know how to do this. It's better if we buy it once in a large amount. Okay? Like, anybody who's ever known an addict knows that they are the best liars on the planet. But Elizabeth, who is such a sage that she's a cult leader and a guru, would have us believe that she's so naive to these ways that she believed Raya when she just said, please, just buy me this. Just go buy me cocaine once. Just do it once, please. Okay? Or Elizabeth writes, was I a total goner for. Sorry, was I a total goner a few days later when she, Raya, told me to go to the ATM again and get more money so she could buy more cocaine and eight ball this time? And I did it. Or was it the morning I walked down to a harm reduction agency in Chinatown and. And registered myself as an active intravenous drug user so I could get clean needles for Raya because I was determined to keep her safe and free from infection. So you see, she was really. She was doing a solid. She's doing a solid as she was dying of cancer and shooting cocaine and opioids. That's rich white woman speak for heroin. Dirty, dirty drugs into the veins of her feet, her hands, her neck? She's such a narcissist, you know, she's writing about a woman who's dying of cancer and allegedly the love of her life. And she. I mean, look at the graphs devoted to Elizabeth and her nasal giving and her noodling about in this Limited psyche. This limited, malignant, narcissistic psyche. My opinion or did I abandon myself completely the first time I suggested that perhaps she was becoming addicted to the cocaine and she told me I was a, quote, needy fucking crybaby who needed to, quote, back the fuck off from talking about shit you don't even fucking understand, End quote. And I stuck around after that for more abuse. Liz is being abused here, you see? Not that we're keeping copious detailed notes for our future memoir which we're going to sell for like seven figures on the back of Raya. So if Raya needs drugs, like, we're just going to do it. Okay, now we find ourselves back in a familiar place with Liz Gilbert. This must be what she would call her safe space. We're back on the bathroom floor, weeping on the bathroom floor. Who weeps on the bathroom floor? You could mop your bathroom floor daily. It's still going to be one of the dirtiest places. I would never. I would never. But we're on the bathroom floor. Okay, Quote was it when I started hiding in the bathroom at night, weeping on the floor while she hid in another bathroom, grinding down her cocaine into a finer and finer powder? This is disgusting. Okay, again, this woman is not here to defend herself. Now, comments over at the Cut, I found this all very interesting. Number one, there are only 247 comments as of Thursday since this story went up online at the Cut last week. It went up Tuesday, August 26th to be exact. So that is not very many comments at all, okay? And these comments are about 90% savage. These readers are disgusted and repulsed by Elizabeth Gilbert. And this is a very progressive, self selecting group of feminists over here, okay? They have very elastic, elastic like ideas about what is moral, you know, what it is or isn't okay to do in the realm of art and memoir. And they are fucking repulsed by her. It's kind of like this may be a moment she can't come back from. This may be her Cynthia Nixon in a make Abortion Great again hat moment. Elizabeth Gilbert is definitely, she may get a special award at this year's Nerve Awards. And I know some of you are like, maureen, stop saying first Annual. The first Annual is really, grammatically the correct thing, is inaugural. And I get it. And I know, but I, I like saying first Annual because it's, it's a forward looking thing, right? Then we're going to do a second, you know what I'm saying? Anyway, Liz Gilbert, okay? So this means, by the way, that her extract in the Cut did not even hit the mark of either fun Labor Day reading or Labor Day hate reads that you, you shoot around to your like minded friends and say, hey, holy shit, can you believe this, by the way? I sent it to one of my best friends who's a huge reader and a, and a published author and she said, should I really read this? And I was like, I can't say you should. Like you have better things to do with your time. So you know, it's incredible. So I'm going to read you some of the comments. Some of the best, best, most savage, insightful comments over at the Cut. And these people, these, these commenters, they talk like they're troublemakers. And I wonder, I wonder, you know, we know we're infiltrating over at the New York Times. I wonder how much we may be infiltrating the water supply over at New York magazine amongst the writers and the readership. Just a question. Okay, comment number one. It's just incredible to me that someone would use the language of AA and self help to justify abandoning their partner as Liz does to Rhea later in the book whom they purport to love at such a time for whatever reason. Quote 2 sorry. Comment 2 how did this solipsistic slop get published? Succinct and to the point. I love it. Another read the whole thing and I must say it made me quite angry at E. G For taking such gross advantage of a dying and once sober woman. I am disgusted that she left her in that shape. I am disgusted that she played a big hand in her lover losing her sobriety in such a violent way instead of being ashamed of herself and just going quietly to get help to understand her enormous role in this debacle. Never happening. Narcissists, especially malignant ones, never seek help. They're never to blame and keep another's life private. Now she, Elizabeth, has to make money to pay for all that wasted cash in drugs and all that so called gangster living she dragged her sick girlfriend through. This was my theory. That thing up top we were talking about when she wouldn't let the New York Times see her new 600 square foot apartment. I was like, this woman blew through all of her money. Would anyone have guessed it would have been on hard drugs, on street drugs for her and her dying girlfriend. That's where her fucking money went. And she wants you to listen to her for more money. Two more comments. Yet another example of the cut pretending it's just publishing an everyday essay while actually empowering toxic affluent white women. To wallow in self indulgence and self importance as they admit to being absolutely useless and cancerous to everyone around them. But it's okay because at least they're admitting it all. All in a literary way. That commenter just read the people at the cut for filth. We tip our hats to you over here. Finally, the last comment I selected, edited for clarity. There appear to be two Elizabeth Gilberts in the public eye. One who writes letters from love and one who's a dishonest addict. There's only one kind of addict, my friend. It's a dishonest one. To continue, I'm also in recovery and no addicts are liars. Presenting one face to the public for 10 years. And then this story, I now know which one was the lie. This story is not a great love story. It is a spiral of addiction to a rock bottom one that happened at the same time. She was sharing this quote love story on social media and with Oprah and on the moth over at npr. But it was all a lie. Her love story is a drunkalog and it's mired in illness and it is nothing to aspire to. Truer words to cap off this segment. And we're going to keep our eye on Liz. We're going to keep our eye on her as her book comes out during her rollout. We're going to look at Liz right now In a recent YouTube interview, talking about, you have to laugh, you have to laugh. Here's Liz talking about the importance of surrounding oneself only with the highest quality people. I did an event with Rachel Cargle, the great writer and civil rights activist a couple years ago, and somebody in the audience asked us, you guys both seem so calm and chilled. You have difficult people in your life. And I started laughing. So I literally rolled off my chair and I was like, yeah. And she said, no, I don't. And I was like, wait, what? And I was like leaning in, I'm like, wait a minute, break that down. And she said, no, I don't have anybody in my life currently who's difficult because I won't do that to myself anymore. The follow up question in the audience was somebody said, what about people who you have to deal with and you have to have them in your life because they're in your family. And she said, I'm thinking as hard as I can and I cannot come up with a single name of anybody who is entitled to be in my life. The irony, I mean, who would want Elizabeth Gilbert? What sane self respecting person would want Elizabeth Gilbert in their life, let alone their social circle, their network, professional or otherwise. This is my challenge. This is our challenge here at the Nerve. We are laying it down and we are dead serious because we're going to. We're going to watch all the journalists to all the talk show hosts. We're going to watch every single one of you. Anybody interviewing this psychopath. Psychopath. My opinion. Ask her about her attempted murder plot. Ask her. Ask her and get details and get chronology and get. Do you feel guilt? Do you feel shame? She attempts to laugh it off. Ask her about it. Ask her about buying street drugs. How'd she get them? Did her dealers ever wind up in prison for peddling to the likes of a wealthy famous white author? Where's our social justice? Where's our radical justice? I can predict that they will not. And here's what I predict. She is going to get a piece and it's coming, I'm sure of it on CBS Sunday Morning. She's going to get a sunny, uplifting piece on CBS Sunday Morning, which moves a lot of books. And she's going to be talking to probably a female journalist who is going to be looking at her with admiration, pity and supplication. Please, like me, this is a disease infesting mainstream media right now. And legacy media journalists. She will then sit down, I guarantee. Fucking tee it, with the mistress of darkness herself, Oprah over on Oprah's pod. Guarantee it. And then I'm also going to predict Liz Gilbert makes an appearance on Drew Barrymore show when Drew comes back on September 9th. And I would not be surprised. I would. You know what it would track. Drew will get down on her hands and knees as she so often does in front of people. I mean, nobody deserves that. Nobody. But like, you know, Drew's gonna crawl in Liz Gilbert's lap and say, teach me your ways. You know, do it, do it. We at the nerve wood chipper. Just the siren song of the wood chipper. Next up. That was. That was. That was really good that I feel so much lighter and that really flew for me. Okay. 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I was just about to ask the same next week. Yes, it's Dunkin original blend time. Staying at home with Duncan. Don't mind if I do. The home home with Duncan is where you want to be. We are back. First up, we have an update on Prince Harry. This is so good. This is so good. According to a report in the New York Post this week. You know, Prince Harry is scheduled to go to London next week to have a summit with King Charles. Their first face to face since King Charles was diagnosed with cancer. And Harry made a. An unwanted last minute flight all the way over to London where his father was just like thanks but no thanks. He got 30 minutes and was sent packing. Okay, so this is, this is a momentous development. If it's if now, if this is true and this is what Harry is demanding. According to reports, I believe this is per rob shooter. I got theories. Okay. And I'm sure you do too. Tell me what you think. Okay. His demands, number one, full security for him and his family were on this again. He just lost a court battle over this. It's not happening. It's not happening. Okay. Full security paid for by taxpayers who he no longer works for. He wants press control that will be coordinated by Buckingham Palace. Is this why we moved to America? We don't like it though, that, like you can't control the press in America. But he wants Buckingham. Okay, whatever, fine. This is the best part. He wants his wife, Rachel Meghan Markle to be treated as if not given an hrh. Her Royal Highness again, we fled this, we left this behind for the family was racist. They didn't care that Megan was suicidal while pregnant. They denied her mental health help. But she would love to get deeper into this family and get another fucking title. And also quote, again, this is just a report complete with bows and curtsies in her presence. This is going to end Norma Desmond style for Rachel Meghan Markle. Now, my theory is, and I use this phrase metaphorically, Harry is either so self destructive that whether he's dialed into it or not, he's kind of committing what's called colloquially suicide by cop, where you find a way to have other people do you in like you architect your own demise, or Megan has made all, made him ask for all of these things, nay, demand all of these things full well knowing they're all non starters. Thus keeping Harry further isolated and dependent upon her. Because trust me, he's going over there without her as of this speaking as of this episode, he's going over there without her and she is going to be, trust me, in a blind panic. He's out of her sight, he's out of her control. Remember, she was panicking. We had those reports when he went to Africa for three days and she couldn't get a hold of him. His phone was off. There is a chasm. There is a chasm that is only yawning wider and wider. So this, these are interesting developments. Next. This is sad news. And I, when I saw it, I really, you know, I just really felt we're losing a person and we're losing, we're losing something that I don't think is going to return ever in the same way. And you, you mourn it just like, just like you do a human. The legendary Italian designer Giorgio armani died at 91 years old. That news broke on Thursday. Giorgio Armani, what a titan. You know, this is so weird because I just got this. This is the Financial Times Weekend. They do a weekend magazine and he was on the COVID Just this past week, he was on the COVID And I really took note of how he posed. You know, everything is deliberate and he's posed in a T shirt and shorts and sneakers. And he's reading a book and he's telling us a lot with that. And then inside, just these, like, amazing spreads about his. His influence over the decades on Western fashion. Giorgio Armani not only revolutionized men's power suiting, he took out all of the. Struck the, like, you know, the shoulder padding and everything that sort of just padded those things out. And he. He made them sleek, but they were. They were cut like glass. And. And he revolutionized Hollywood glamour. He did it with 1980s American Gigolo, dressing a young Richard Gere in Armani. And this is a cinematic moment. Like it goes down in the history books. It really does. American Gigolo, mediocre film. Richard Gere became a star in part because of the way he was outfitted in Armani. He wore those clothes like a second skin. And they told you everything about that character. Everything. Armani also suited Kevin Costner in the Untouchables, again, a movie that I believe it was. No Way out was before the Untouchables, I think. So no Way out kind of minted Kevin Costner as one to watch. And then I think with the Untouchables, it was like, this guy's like an old school movie star. He's like the modern Gary Cooper. He. Of the many, many things he designed. There's this gorgeous Cate Blanchett gown, black, sculptural, with these white, like this feather cape that is also architectural, but looks like it could. It's just hanging off delicately. This is Kate at the Venice film festival in 2018. He did Jody Foster. She wore Armani. She wore. Again, this is like groundbreaking stuff. In 92, when she won for Silence of the Lambs, Julia Roberts wore Armani menswear for her Golden Globes win in 1990. He made the COVID of Time magazine in. It was April 5, 1982. The headline was Giorgio's gorgeous style. I mean, this is monocultural stuff that we're losing. And again, we just talked about in the most recent Nerve, how Vogue is dead. It's been dead since Anna put Kim and Kanye on the COVID A nepo baby is taking over a nepo baby, by the way, enjoy your diminished state, okay? Because Anna's not given up her office. Anna will not be giving up her office, even though she is no longer editor in chief of Vogue. That thing. I think what she thinks is going to happen is they're just going to cut it out of that building in Times Square and they're going to airlift it over to the Smithsonian. That's what I think. Anna thinks she's delusional. Chloe gets an office like three doors down and I'm sure it's really small. Just as inglorious as, like her new title. Fashion's dead, it's not what it was. And Armani passing just sort of really underscores this. You know, there are very few greats left among us, so rest in peace, Giorgio Armani. Now to the depths of some more celebrity horseshit. Jennifer Aniston is out there slinging her morning show. Season four is coming back. I think it's the 17th of September, so we're gonna be all over that. I'm mourning, like season two of the Newsreader, which aired Thursday night. Only six episodes this season. I'm dying. When will Australian Broadcasting make the Australian Broadcasting Company. Excuse me. Make season three available to those of us in America. Please help us out, please, or somebody at abc, please email me. Just give me a link to season three. I'm dying. Okay? Anyway, Jennifer Aniston is out there yet again telling the women of the world that her youthful look. How does she stay so youthful? How come she doesn't have a line on her face? She's going to tell us that we can all do it for free. As quoted in Glamour magazine, Jen, I think as far as aging gracefully, I have an eternal fountain of optimism and positivity. Call it youth if you want. Listen, Jennifer Aniston has been papped, excuse me, coming out of countless plastic surgeons offices, okay? That hair is straightened to within an inch of its life. It is colored. She has had multiple procedures. I think she has had electrolysis to remove, you know, like hair here because I believe her forehead was really low, whatever it happens. But she has had so many procedures. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go look this up in the wayback machine for you guys There. There used to be this amazing, amazing website that would take Hollywood stars who clearly had a ton of work done to ever get their foot in front of a camera, let alone an agent or an audition, okay? And then it would imagine them if they had never made it or never become actresses or singers or whatever and just lived a normal life. Like Jennifer Aniston would be like a mid level, she'd be working mid level retail. Like she might be in an office, she might be in management, but it basically had these images of them and it was like Jennifer Aniston and JLo and they literally look like they were like middle aged, bad hair, bad skin, no rhinoplasties, no filler, no Botox, no interventions, no boob jobs, whatever. Not saying they've had all that, but they've had a lot done, okay? And, you know, they basically look like they work in, in Queens, New York. Taking the 7 train into the city to go work in a call center somewhere. That's what they would look like. You know, it's millions of dollars and it's plastic surgeons and it's colorists and it's stylists and it's personal trainers and it's personal nutritionist and it's the jab and it's all of it. So stop it. Shove it. Stop poisoning women of America with your bullshit. We all know it's a lie. Maybe her hypnotist boyfriend has her convinced. I don't know. Okay, Now I want to talk about what's going on at the US Open a little bit. This is a. This is a hard U.S. open because it's the first one. Novak Djokovic is the last of the big three. On the court, we are really feeling the absence of Rafael Nadal, and we are really feeling the absence of. Why am I blanking? It was Nadal, Djokovic and. Oh, Federer. Nadal, Djokovic and Federer. Okay, we are. We are feeling the absence of Federer and Nadal Djokovic. This is probably his last go round. So it's all of these younger players that the Tennis Inc. Is trying to brand as the new icons, the new rivalries. And listen, that stuff is earned, okay? You can't just slap a brand on and they've got a real problem, a real problem, because these younger players lack grit. Grit is among the top qualities you need to succeed in life. And I don't care what your metrics are. You know, not everybody's going to be a major tennis player, you know, but you need grit if you want to be great. Okay, so first we're going to look at Coco Gao Goff. Excuse me. It's Coco Gauff. I always struggle with that. I don't know why her last name. She's. She's since out. But we're going to take a look at her being interviewed on the court at the US Open last week. And you guys bring me so much joy. And the reason. And the reason. Sorry, I'm like, sorry. Almost forgot to move and play the point. If that makes sense. That does. So I, I walked into the room while that was on, while that was playing that interview, and I thought, oh, she lost, she won, she won. And she was weeping to the point where. And they did not, they were not tears of joy. They were tears of stress and sorrow. And, you know, you could have knocked me over with a feather when I realized she fucking won. Take a look at what else has been going on at the US Open. We've got Daniil Medvedev smashing his racket repeatedly in frustration. I think he was fined $42,000 for that. I mean, they take that very seriously. That is a no no on court. We've got Zitsipas scolding his rival after the match. That's, that's when you. Sportsman. It's all sportsmanship and he's scolding him with the, the mic is picking him up. And then we've got Ostapenko yelling at her rival, Taylor Townsend, telling Townsend that she has, quote, no class and no education. And if you want to tell me that that's not racially coded, that is. And I hope she's fined as well. Now, that's just a sampling, okay? And this is not, this, this stuff is not the legacy of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal, okay? It's not. These players need to toughen up. And, you know, this is, this is a generational thing that I think Gen X really, really, really needs to have like a come to Jesus with members of other generations who have come before them, who can like clue them in, you know, I understand Covid really threw a spanner in the works for a lot of people. But it is time to get back to real life and real socialization and what it constitutes professional behavior. And I was reading a very interesting piece, I think it was in the journal, about Gen X entering the workforce and recent college graduates entering the workforce. And they come in with all of these, they're telling the bosses what's what, which is not the way it works, it's the other way around. And they'll say things like, you know, I enforce my own personal boundaries and I really need a quality of life and a work life balance. And so, you know, I'll work for you from 9 to 5, but like, I will not answer emails after 5 o'. Clock. I really need to enforce that. And somebody very wise said, if you listen, you want to be mediocre, you want to be okay, you don't want to go anywhere in life, fine, you know, but if you want to be great, if you want to achieve real success, if you want to really make something out of your life and make your mark and make some money, kiss your 20s goodbye, that's when you're going to work your heart out. You know, and I couldn't agree more. I worked my heart out in my 20s, you know, I knew that that's when you do it. That's when you do. Anyway, so hopefully, hopefully these players, somebody, somebody will, you know, I don't know what needs to happen. I don't know. But like, this is really embarrassing. It's really embarrassing. Also embarrassing. So, you know Ryan Murphy's American Love story, what I call his camp project. I don't think he knows it's camp. It's shooting on the streets of New York city. Still. His Temu. JFK Jr. His Temu. Carolyn. We got images, filmed images of the fight in the park. They're recreating that fight in the park. Let's see if they make Junior look as bad, you know, pushing Carolyn away, his fiance away with the palm of his hand by her face. Let's see if they do that. Okay. And then we see Naomi Watts, who is so badly miscast. Here it is just. She's so badly miscast as Jackie. Oh, and we see her cancer stricken Jackie O walking the streets with her dope of a son saying something stupid to make her laugh. And they look ridiculous. They look. These people look ridiculous. I. I said it on Instagram. Call it hackio. And let's be done with it. Let's be done with it. Okay, now on to your emails and art. I am so excited for this. Okay, several things. First, we got this art. This came from troublemaker Chris. You guys are so excited for our Emmy, our Emmy night, and so are we. It's me. It's a version of me. It's very flattering. So thank you, Chris Sequins Spotlight. Shamelessness. The nerve. You got it. You got it. Another one. And this came from troublemaker, who goes by the name Cherry Lane, which I love. It makes me think of that great Runaways hit. Cherry bomb. This is again yours truly on a. On a bomb that's. That's lit and about to go off, dropping those Sagittarius truth bombs. And I do. Who identifies. Oh, Hilaria Baldwin identifies as like a Taurus. And I said I identify as a Sagittarius. And it's true. Because, you know, the gift and the curse of a sag is like you tell the truth and sometimes it just flies out of your mouth and you don't mean to hurt somebody's feelings. And you realize it was an artfully phrased. And I've done that more than once in my life and I've worked really hard on that because I Never want to hurt someone's feelings unless they deserve it. Like Liz Gilbert and Rachel Meghan Markle. Also from a troublemaker who mailed to us over here at NerveCentral a really cute card. I read it. Candy, I think I'm saying your name right with hugs. She gave me two cute little coffee coffee decals which I have my coffee right here. And I don't know where you found this troublemaker, but she found it and she sent it to me and it is this cute little pin and it says troublemaker on it and I am going to wear it on the mini. Okay, I will be wearing it on the mini Saturday 10am Eastern. Okay, a few more of your emails. This to the segment we did with Elizabeth and her book about called Everyday Intuition and how intuition plays into what we colloquially call premonition. But you know, could be really deeper than that. This is from Veena. Hi Maureen. In July of 2009 as I lay my head down to bed here on the East Coast, I had this horrible thought and quote saw my mother dying in a car crash. I was so appalled at myself for such a dark imagining, I shoved that thought away. The next evening I got a call that my mother on the west coast was involved in a near fatal car accident. Since then she survived. Thank God. Since then I try harder to trust myself and my intuition more. Too many times throughout my life I've ignored it and went on to regret so many things. Love this. Hi Maureen, I suggested this merch on the nerve YouTube comments but wanted to make sure you saw it because it was getting some traction. Allegedly. Reportedly. Just my opinion. You must on my mug as I settle in to watch. We have also gotten another one. This is from that was from Marilyn who signs yours truly Troublemaker. Thanks Marilyn. This is from Judith. Maureen, welcome back. Hope you had a great Labor Day weekend. I think she's excited for the upcoming merch launch, as are we. Judith says, I think you should feature shirts, coffee mugs, et cetera with the phrase just my opinion. They will be on some of the merch. Just my opinion. If you guys want allegedly reportedly or allegedly reportedly just my opinion, just email us or go to the Nerve online. DM me. We'll make it happen. Dear Maureen, I cannot believe I missed this troublemaker. Jennifer from the Woodlands in Texas, thank you for this high alert. I saw Hoda was out pedaling her joy crap on Meet the Press this weekend. She had again legacy media wonders, right? She had an interview with my editorial the Useless Useless Charisma Free. Kristen, welker pre taped. Obviously filler for a holiday weekend show. I mean the news rolls on and it's meet the Press. Why not make have a pre tape with a newsmaker, not hold it effing copy. One troublemaker Jennifer has questions. Is NBC an investor in her app? She seems to get lots of airtime opportunities to promote. Great. Question two, Am I supposed to be inspired by her decision to step away from her Today show throne so she could be more present for her kids? Jennifer, I got news for you. The nannies are with the kids. We're out here hustling our Joy app. Okay. We're out here hustling against the likes of Liz Gilbert. Has Hoda ever plotted to murder someone? I don't know. I think Hoda might have to up her game here. Okay. Dear Maureen, greetings from London. Greetings, Flora. This is an email from Flora about domestic violence on Bravo and she wants to also talk about Bill Maher. One final note, this was a lengthy email. I enjoyed reading it. One final note, Ari. William Marr. She is taking our note that we call Andy Cohen. Andrew Cohen. So Bill Maher is now William Marr and Barbara Eden. We covered this on a very recent Nerve for context. I used to be a butcher and spent many years working in male dominated environments. At the risk of making sweeping statements about the industry. And FYI, I love my job and all my former colleagues. I've heard a lot of pretty disgusting and sexist things in my time. I do not shock easily at all. But that interview was one of the most horrifying, cringeworthy, disgusting, misogynistic and disrespectful things I have ever seen or heard. I couldn't believe it. We are all with you. That's why we did the piece. Flora continues. I really wish William Marr would just go away and stay in his creepy, badly lit basement and never come out. And I got news for you. I'm sorry, but I think real time is back. But we're keeping our eyes on him over here. Not to worry. Okay? This is from Paris with gratitude. From Paris, with love. From Paris, with gratitude. This is from a troublemaker named Wayne. As an American who has lived in Paris, France for the last 40 some years. I love Paris so much, I'm dying to get back there. I love it so much I cannot tell. This is so sweet. William Wayne. Sorry, he says, I cannot tell you how much I look forward to every episode of the Nerve. I appreciate them as much. This is high praise as the finest French wine I could ever Buy here and I savor every minute. We savor every minute with you guys. Okay? Now, you may be surprised to know that the Nerve is having an unexpected impact overseas. Specifically on the plant arrangements on Parisian balconies. Well, at least on mine. Wayne noted that after a windy afternoon and leaves blew off the plants on his wrought iron balcony, to my horror, sitting there, revealed at last, was a miniature Buddha. I had received it as a gift, many a gift, many years ago, and hidden it among the plants, only to be retrieved when the gift givers came to visit. But over time, it had been swallowed up by greenery and forgotten. Your maxim, don't walk, run, run came instantly to mind. I opened the window without hesitation, grabbed the offending statue and whisked it away. The question was how to dispose of it. Tossing it in the trash felt vaguely sacrilegious. So after some deliberation, I set it out on the street, hoping a passing Buddhist might claim it. Three days later, there it still sits. Hey, at least it's a Buddha. It's in the sitting position. It's in the lotus position. Perhaps other Nerve listeners in the neighborhood spotted it and true to form, ran for their lives. As a final note, this whole incident reminded me of a vacation in Bali several years ago. Or Bali, sorry, Bali several years ago. I was invited to dinner at. Oh, this is so good. This is so good. I was invited to dinner at the home of a washed up French starlet whose glory days were long, long gone. Think white lotus season. Three drinks were served by the swimming pool and to my utter shock, the bottom of her pool was paved with a giant Buddha face in mosaic. This was long before your wise words were spoken. But how I wish I had tossed back my drink and run on the spot. Instead, I endured one of the worst evenings of my life listening to one of the fakest people I have ever had the misfortune to meet. Maureen, you are always spot on. Thank you. Thank you. Wayne in Paris. These are just amazing, amazing emails and this is just your friendly reminder to keep them coming. All of your thoughts coming. Any artwork, any merch suggestions. You can reach me at maureenadevilmaycaremedia.com DM me at Maureen Callahan, writer on Instagram or over at the Nerve show on Instagram. Remember to like subscribe and spread the word. We are growing, growing so fast. And the more subscribers we add, more content we can get you. Just saying. We've got one more week until the Nerve goes live. We are all super excited and the planning is so much fun. Like it shouldn't be this much fun, but you know what I mean? It's our job. But we're loving it. We're loving it and we're brainstorming every single morning, every single night. So. So that's going to be real fun. And we've just booked another very special guest. And what else can I tell you? That's it. And we've got a big announcement coming in like another week or two, another really big announcement. So all of it's happening. It's all happening. And we are going to come back with the Heart of Darkness herself. 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Could we reschedule our morning hike? I was just about to ask the same next week. Yes, it's Dunkin original blend time. Staying at home with Duncan. Don't mind if I do. The home with Duncan is where you want to be. This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan. Real United Airlines customers. We were returning home, and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the first flight deck and meet Captain Andrew. I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way. We are back. Before we get to this segment, I just want to make a note. Marlena, who I love for being a stickler, told me, and she said, I think you got Hilaria Baldwin's astrological sign wrong. And I said, well, what do you call that? Because I didn't misname her. I mean, her name is Hillary Taylor Thomas. She's a white woman from Boston, and I didn't misgender her. So what is it? And she was like, you mis. Horoscoped her. I don't know what it is. Now, we're not really giving her attention for this Dancing with the Stars thing yet. We'll see what develops. You know, like all malignant narcissists, any attention is good attention. But I would like to throw down a challenge to the producers at Dancing with the Stars. Some of you have got to be listening. People who work on Dancing with the Stars have got to be listening to the nerve. Okay, somebody is. We dare you. Do a real public service and make Hilaria dance. Only Spanish dances, only to Spanish music. And double points if you hire a professional tango dancer from Spain who doesn't speak English and only speaks Spanish. Let's do this. If we're gonna do this, let's do it for real. Okay, now on to our regularly scheduled programming. Oprah. Oprah Winfrey has just hosted Bruce Willis's wife Emma on her podcast. Now, Oprah had to take a back seat to Diane Sawyer over at ABC News. Diane landed the exclusive interview. Okay, Diane got first dibs, so. Oh, how the Mighty have fallen. Okay? She may be getting her shoelaces tied by her platonic friend Gail over at the Bezos wedding in Venice, but out here on these streets, Diane Sawyer is hustling, and she got Emma Willis first. Okay, not only that, and this is why you want the exclusive, because on Oprah's pod, the first half of it is Emma regurgitating everything she already told Diane Sawyer. And it's not that interesting, because Emma's not that interesting. The most interesting thing about Emma is not even that she's married to a movie star, because, you know, any gold digger can figure that out. You know, the interesting thing about Emma is that her very famous movie star husband is dying of a rare disease. And it's a horror show for anyone who's diagnosed with this and their family members. But Emma has found a way to monetize it. And Rachel Meghan Markle better up her game because Emma's a better actress. Not by much, but she's better. Now. First, Oprah greets. Oprah greets Emma in a garden. And I'm gonna. It looks like something out of Rembrandt, you know, but even the lighting, the flowers, like. But it's. It's not London. It's Montecito, I guarantee you. And this whole thing is very, very Meghan Markle coded. And watch as Emma tries to suppress her glee at getting an audience with Oprah. Not, not only getting the benediction from Oprah, but Oprah's gonna move fucking books for her, okay? Oprah's gonna make her a bestseller. And so watch her try to suppress her glee, because we're talking about something very, very, very serious here. Because just like Carol Radziwill, some guy that Emma married is dying. Hi. Hi, Ms. Winfrey. Call me Oprah, for goodness sakes. Hello, Oprah. You. It's so nice to meet you. Oh, dispense with the niceties. We're here to make a meal over your husband's dying cloth. You could come. Thank you for having me. Yes, thank you. I'm so. I'm so excited about having. Because I've read your book, and that book is going to free so many caregivers. It is such an awesome book to so many caregivers. Thank you. It is. It's. It's going to change. I read a lot of books and advice, done a lot of, you know, conversations. I can feel that that's going to shift the conversation. I hope so. Change the narrative. Well, I hope so. Change the narrative. Change the narrative. That is a Housewives tagline. Change the narrative. Oprah. Oprah, I can tell you I may have had to give up the first interview with you to Diane Sawyer, but this book is going to change the culture. No, it is not. This is a rich woman's lament. This is a rich, uninteresting woman who would never, ever, ever have gotten a book deal had she not been married to Bruce Willis, who can afford all the help in the world. Oprah's trying to frame this as she's going to help the average caregiver. Trust me, as you know, my family's going through it with my mother. We know this. We know this drill, okay? This is such bullshit. I can't even now, so just anybody who even had a passing interest in this thing, you can just skip the first half of the intro. And this is how out of touch and like, just like no fucks left to give Oprah is. She doesn't really do the work anymore. She doesn't realize she's having a rehashed, warmed over conversation with Emma Willis, who's already told all of this stuff to Diane Sawyer. How she and Bruce met, the marriage, the kids, when she realized something was wrong. There is nothing else to talk to this woman about, okay? She's not interesting. And I'm telling you, she's not a reader and she's not a curious person and she's not interested in people who don't have money, okay? Because otherwise we would be taking all of the proceeds from what is sure to be our best selling book and we would be starting a foundation, a charitable entity that would be geared toward helping average and below poverty level Americans who are dealing with this very plague in their own homes. But are we doing that? No. Hey, is there a journalist out there who would like to ask Emma why she's not doing that? Now Oprah asks Emma how she has been able to live with prolonged grief. How have you learned to live with this kind of prolonged grief? You just do you, I, I, it is right all the time. The philosopher and what I have learned, it's not Next to her, Bruce is in another home. Grief. And this process is that, you know, I need to stalling. It's important for me to be able to talk about it, which you're doing. You talked about it with Diane Sawyer, you're talking about it with Oprah. This woman has no answers. She has no insight. She's not a deep person. And when I say Bruce is in another home, I don't mean a nursing home. I mean Emma says That they built a second house on their property and they removed Bruce from the only home he's ever known, and they installed him in a place that's foreign to him, which for someone with dementia is incredibly traumatic. And she's got 24, 7 multibody, round the clock, individualized care for him. And that is something only the 1% can relate to. Okay? Everybody else is on the phone with Medicaid to the point where they're in tears out of frustration because the system is built to break you. It's built to break you. Here's Emma on more of her insight on caregivers. Okay, so you were told by a doctor that caregivers actually die at a rate of 63%. I was so shocked with that number. Trying to make her book bigger than she is. It's a lie. Who are not caregivers. That's number one. That's alarming to say the least. Did the doctor explain why? Because caregivers don't have time to care for themselves. Right? They are looking after their person. They are handling the medications, the doctor's appointments, the household. If they have young children, they're parenting. They are not thinking about themselves in any way. Okay, first of all, Oprah asked that question. Did the doctor explain why with a smile? She is dark. She is dark. And then Emma says, yeah, the doctor had to explain it to me that, you know, caregivers are always burnt out because they're not only trying to attend to an adult who's literally losing their mind, but then they have to pay the bills and go to work and parent their children, and the stress just gets too much. That had to be explained to Emma because Emma's got a household of staff, trust me. But she wants people who are already suffering to buy her book. Now, Emma is going to. You know how I said at the top of the show, writers and cliches, never the twain shall mix an original thinker. You're putting your words on paper. You're going out. You have a huge platform now. Do not traffic in cliches. Let's listen to Emma explain how it is caregivers need the people in their lives to show up for them. And another point that you made that I really appreciated in the book is that people always say, call me if you need anything or let me know if you need anything. Yeah. And you were saying, instead of saying, let me know if you need anything, just do the thing. Just do the thing. Do the thing. Tell me what you can do. Yes, you know. Or here is, you know. What I would love for caregivers to do, it takes a little bit of busy work for them. But you know, what are the things that you do in a week, you know, what that you don't need to do, that you could just allocate for someone else to. To do it. You know, if it's picking up the medication, if it's going to the grocery store, if it's what her staff does. Car to get the tank filled. You know, here is a list of the things that I would love for you to help or somebody to help me with. Yes, someone. Yes, right. Oprah's like. Or somebody to help me with. Like Gail. Gail does all of that. So Gail dies. My shoes. Listen, this is the stuff of advice columns, okay? Like, oh, here's what you do. Like dummies who write into the New York Times. Oh, by the way, to the dummy who wrote into the New York Times this Sunday in the magazine and said, hey, my neighbors are abusing their dogs. Should I do something? Yeah, you should do something. Okay? You should be banging down the doors of your local police and the ASPCA and anybody who can help or offer to buy that dog. Do whatever the fuck you got to do to save the dog next door who's being abused and tied up and left outside in 30 degree weather. Do it now. Emma. Back to Emma. Sorry. Cruelty to animals, it's, you know, it's a no go. Okay, Now Emma is also, if you notice, sitting here again. She's in her most serious cosplay. We're wearing the no makeup makeup look. We're wearing designer eyewear that's just very somber. We're just wearing like a polo. I guarantee you that's Laura Piana. I guarantee you it looks like nothing, but I guarantee you it's like $1,000. And, you know, we're just very serious. Our hair is just straight and kind of limp, you know, because we're depressed. We're depressed now. Like, Emma, I think, should get together with Liz Gilbert and they can talk about what it is just dying for someone to hurry up and get it over with and expire so you can get the money and move on with your life. Emma would like to get a book too. I'm sure a book deal about how to survive after your much older husband, who is famous and wealthy, dies. And then I'm sure she'd like a podcast and I don't know, we'll figure out other ways to monetize this. I just think all of the. Just get all the dark People together. Like, why doesn't Rachel Meghan Markle invite Emma and Liz onto her Christmas Netflix special? I would watch that. I would watch that. Now Emma is going to tell us that one of Bruce's daughters with Demi Moore came to her and said that she was more. Well, you'll hear it. Here we go. That was another wake up call for me. And you know, if Scout's telling me that she's more worried about me than her own father, I was like, oh my goodness, I am losing it. I need to get myself together. Do you want to know what else Scout is preoccupied with? She's preoccupied with the release of her new single, her new music. It's out today, timed to her stepmother's media tour. Exploiting her father. How serendipitous. How serendipitous. Look at this from Scout's Instagram. Now here is an older post of her performing me. I've known grief, grief, grief is the text coming all over her. Okay, again, these people are not subtle. Then there is this on her Instagram. Teasing her new single again, out today. If you care to buy, put a little money in her pocket too. While you're at it. Don't just give it to step mommy over here. Here's Scout dressed like roller girl from Boogie Nights. Scout is giving us a full on JLo death jiggle and she's got a Venmo prompt to the side. Okay, this is classy. Class, class all the way. All the way. Now forgive me because we have to get back to the real star of this tragedy. And it's not Bruce, it's Emma. It's Emma Willis. Okay, this is a whopper. And I am going to take this thing out back. I'm going to take this lie out back and shoot it. Okay? Listen to Emma. Oh, the gall on her. The nerve, the nerve. Here we go. You said that he's actually in a blissful state. Yeah, yeah. Bruce isn't thinking about what happened yesterday or what's happening right now or tomorrow. She barely sees him or what he has to do or what's on the schedule or he is so present, he is in the here and now and it's actually really beautiful to witness. So we're seeing private home movie footage of Bruce Willis that I don't think Bruce Willis, when he had his faculties about him, I don't think he would have agreed to this. I don't think he would have agreed to being trotted out for public consumption. So his younger, one time beta model wife, nobody ever heard of Emma Willis, before she married Bruce, okay, she was like modeling. Like, she's like catalog model levels. Okay? Now again, I speak as someone whose mother has this disease. They are not in blissful states. They're not. If they are quiet and they seem content, usually they're heavily drugged up because what happens, they know something is wrong with them. They know. They may not know who they are, who their children are, who their spouse is, where they are, but they know something is really wrong. My mother has said that to me without knowing I'm her daughter anymore. There's something really wrong with me. I can't remember things. And they get very agitated and they get angry. So this is a lie. And Emma is out here parading around like she's performing a public fucking service, telling people shit they didn't know before. And that Bruce is always happy and he's in the moment. He's just so present because he doesn't know he's not present. Having dementia is the absolute opposite of being present. She is a for doing this. It makes me so angry. It's so. It makes me so angry. Now we go on to say we're going to talk about Demi Moore, Bruce's ex wife. And Emma's gonna talk and Oprah's gonna talk about how supportive Demi is. Demi's not here. Okay? Demi's not here. And she hasn't had her publicist issue a current statement as Emma's out getting her close up about what a great fucking wife Emma is. Wonder why. So Oprah digs up this interview, a previous interview with Demi, and I'm going to guess this was during Demi's like nearly year long media tour to get an Academy Award for the substance. And you know, we've got images to promote and protect. All right, here we go. I have so much compassion for Emma in this. Being a young woman. There's no way that anybody could have anticipated, you know, where this was going to go. Okay? I think that is a very coded response and this is my interpretation of Demi's response. This trick over here, this young gold digger, never, ever anticipated that a man as virile and masculine as her action movie hero husband, Bruce Willis, so virile he fathered two more children with her, was ever, ever going to go out this way, that she would have the prime of her life stopped in its tracks because her husband got dementia and suddenly all of his money, all of his wealth has to go to his care and she can't walk out the door without looking like the gold digger she is. She's got to stay here and suck this up. And this. And dementia takes a long time. You know, as I've said before, the. The perversity of this disease is that people who suffer from it, their physical health is usually sterling. It's perfect. And my mother has always been as healthy as a horse, and she remains that way. And that is a tragedy, really, because she's going to suffer with this anyway. Emma Willis, we here at the Nerve are the only ones who are going to say it. Fuck off. Fuck all the way off. That does it. That does it for this Friday edition of the Nerve. Now, we have a very special mini nerve for you tomorrow. And I can promise you that what we are going to talk about you will not hear discussed anywhere else. And on the Nerve, the Mini. Excuse me. I will tell you why you're not going to believe who's going to the woodshed. I'm actually heartbroken by one of them. I hate doing it, but it has to be done because our allegiance at the Nerve is always to the real. Talk about fake people. Catch the mini. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. We're given spankings where they're deserved. We will be over on YouTube on Saturday at 10am Eastern. Andy Kiwi, we know you'll be rounding up the troops in the live chat. Then we will be back with our full show next week on Tuesday, back for our regularly scheduled programming next Tuesday at the Nerve, where you will never guess what we're about to say next. Hey, what's up, subscribers? Welcome back to the channel. 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