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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
Meghan and Harry OSTRACIZED, Amanda Peet's Star Treatment, and Hoda Kotb's Sloppy Journalism
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Maureen Callahan is joined by Royal insider Kinsey Schofield to break down the latest in Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s post-Netflix fallout, why their Montecito neighbors reportedly want nothing to do with them, Meghan’s latest gala appearance and desperation for endless attention, plus more information coming out on how Netflix is stuck with millions in unsold “As Ever”merchandise. Maureen also reads though Troublemaker feedback, including original artwork from Paul from New Zealand, an update on Michael Bergin's book availability, and the “Bachelorette” saga. Later in the show, Maureen discusses how Amanda Peet’s current media tour is centered on her breast cancer diagnosis but is really about a film promotion, including an appearance on the “Today Show” where Hoda Kotb swoops in once again and botches the interview with irresponsible commentary and sloppy journalism. Kinsey Schofield: https://www.youtube.com/@KinseySchofieldUnfiltered ZBiotics: Go to https://zbiotics.com/...
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Maureen Callahan
Hello and welcome to your Friday edition of the Nerve. I am your host, Maureen Callahan. We have so much to luxuriate in today. We are going to begin with the latest mess made by Harry and Meghan. Netflix has dumped them like yesterday's trash. Kinsey Schofield is going to join us and give us all of her exclusive intel and insight into this downward spiral. She's also party crashing and dancing or like watching bathroom attendants dancing. Just like Rand. It's like Monty Python shit. Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna cover it again the way the rest of the mainstream media refuses to. We're also, we've got a huge, like our, we've got a really nice, nice segment of troublemaker feedback, which I've just been wanting like a longer one so we can all really talk to each other. We've got some troublemaker art. We've got an appearance from Paul from New Zealand. I'm winking at you, Paul, and I am tipping my hat to Pam later. We've got a celebrity who is out on the stroll with an illness essay. And this is supposed to make this celebrity bulletproof proof. And that would be true any place other than the Nerve. As I said to Marlena earlier today, we're sacrilegious over here. It's not for everyone but the people. It's for. It's really for. And I'm talking to you troublemakers. Are you ready? Are you ready? Let's go. After having a few drinks, are you finding it harder to bounce back? Back. Do you find yourself choosing between having a great night or a great day after? Try Zebiotics, pre alcohol it is the first genetically engineered probiotic created by PhD scientists to help you tackle those rough mornings after drinking. Here is how it works. When you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It's a buildup of this byproduct, not dehydration, that's really behind those sluggish mornings. Zbiotics Pre Alcohol produces an enzyme to break that byproduct down. Just make it your first drink of the night, drink responsibly and feel your best the next day. If you are ready to give Zebiotics a try, go to zbiotics.com nerve now and you will get 15% off your first order when you use code nerve at checkout that zebiotics.com nerve use use code nerve at checkout for 15% off. Joining us now is none other than Kinsey Schofield, host of the Must Subscribe Kinsey Schofield unfiltered on YouTube. It has been a very busy week for Meghan Markle and a very bad one at that. And Kinsey is here to to dissect it all. Kinsey, welcome back to the nerve.
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Kinsey Schofield
Markle Sparkle 2026.
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Maureen Callahan
It was her astrologer, was it not, who said, this is your year, kid, You've had a bad few years, but this is your year to shine? Okay, first of all, it's not just Netflix that stumped them, allegedly. Reportedly, even their neighbors in Montecito want nothing to do with the gruesome twosome. This report from the New York Post was published on March 23rd by Maris Sigler. The headline meghan Markle and Prince Harry getting the Cold Shoulder from their Montecito Neighbors. A quick little bite from the piece. A source tells Page Six that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Montecito, California neighbors are over it. It's not hate, says a source. It's just a growing awareness. I mean, you would think there are really smart people living in Montecito. They have a lot of money. They would have picked up on this from day one. But it's been apparently a growing awareness. The quote continues that they're takers with a zero self awareness. Everyone is exhausted by them. Another source they are avoiding them. Neighbors of the two of them. No one wants to be seen with them.
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Kinsey Schofield
Kinsey yeah, I mean, that's facts. No one wants to be seen with them. We've seen how Megan strategically tries to have her photo taken or creates a viral moment with Gwyneth Paltrow. I mean, she pursues these moments. She pursues pictures with celebrities, and we haven't seen that in quite some time. We've not seen a celebrity willing to have their photograph taken with her.
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Maureen Callahan
But the point, great point.
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Kinsey Schofield
I also think that we've heard over the years that they will ask you, can I borrow your beach house? Can I? Oh, thank you. Thank you for letting me use your vacation home. Do you mind if I borrow your private jet to get there? I mean, they ask and ask and relentlessly ask for more with zero shame. And I'm wondering if this is a product of that. Just people being like, look, I'm tired of sharing my. My house with you. I'm tired of sharing my private jet with you. And what do you offer me in return? Absolutely nothing.
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Maureen Callahan
It's such a great point, Kinsey, because I think even of. She would not shoot what was supposed to be a very personal show about being a lifestyle guru and how to be the consummate hostess and make people feel warm and invited and well fed and well taken care of into one's home. And she wouldn't even do it in her own house. She borrowed.
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Kinsey Schofield
She.
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Maureen Callahan
She borrowed a neighbor's home, a neighbor's kitchen, and I guarantee you she did not give them a day rate for filming in said house. And those people had to relocate. I'm sure they had to move out and go find someplace else to stay. I'm sure these are people with multiple residences, but that is not the point. She is a taker. I call them both takers and destroyers. And this goes to what's going on over at Netflix, because she's supposed to be a creator, a content creator over at Netflix, but Netflix is done with them because Netflix has taken, at least they've taken hits in the millions and millions and millions of dollars over this boondoggle. I mean, it's their own fault again. Now, I'm gonna go back just a little bit here to this New York Post headline, March 21, Markle left Netflix, quote, millions of dollars in the hole with severed as ever deal. Again, I call it a sever quote, meaning Netflix. They never saw a return. They never. Not only that, Netflix was saddled with a reported, per Variety, $10 million worth of as ever merch, which they shipped back to Harry and Meghan and basically were like, this is your problem now. You warehouse the shit at your own expense. Sarah Nathan, in her piece for the New York Post writes, she talked to a source who said, meanwhile, quote, there are a lot of people, meaning at Netflix who really did not enjoy working with Megan on With love. This is a staffer at Netflix adding quote, there is no love lost between many at Netflix and Markle and her and Harry's Archewell production company. This is my favorite part. This is my favorite part. Markle herself, Brace yourselves, troublemakers. Has said she found making the show tough. It's a year. This is Markle's quote. It's a year of learns. Her favorite bastardization makes. She thinks it makes her sound like she has an mba. Okay, you sound like an asshole, sister. It's a year of learns. And then she went on. She said this at October's Fortune's most powerful Women's Summit. She said, kinsey and I quote, eight episodes for two seasons. It's a lot of work. Listen, sister, the nerve rounded 100 episodes in less than a year. You want to talk about hard work? She is so full of shit. The gall to get up at Fortunes. First of all, they're so stupid for inviting her. You know, they all think any click, click, clicks are good. Clicks, clicks are clicks. But like, she, she, she's up. This is her problem. This is part of her problem. I mean, she has no talent, okay? She does not have an original thought in that very mediocre brain of hers. But she sits there and she says, eight episodes over two years. God, you know, I really broke a sweat with that. You know, you're fucking lucky. Not only did she get a platform from the likes of Spotify and then Lemonada, but they shuffled millions of dollars her way. Millions of dollars. And she's going to sit there and say eight episodes. It was so much work.
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Kinsey Schofield
And she was saying that ultimately she was going to pivot to digital content, and we've seen zero of that.
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Maureen Callahan
And like, what do you think digital means?
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Kinsey Schofield
Well, no, she was saying she was going to go into micro content, which is exactly what I said when I saw the very first episode of With Love Megan. I was like, this could be a 60 second video on TikTok. This does an hour long program and she's not even doing that. I mean, she's not even giving us quick recipes using products that she's trying to shill on Instagram. So, I mean, what does she do all day, all day long? Obviously not a lot because she's not even creating that content. That was just an excuse. She was saying, oh, no. But that was tough work. So we've decided to pivot into digital content. And now we sit around and wait months later for digital content. It doesn't exist. I mean, I do think that it's that Variety article says what we've been all saying for a long time. She lacks creativity, she lacks the ability to, to collaborate. She doesn't know what the hell she's doing. And it's cost Netflix a significant amount of money. And the Royal family must be sitting back thinking, thank God she's no longer our problem. Because she would have been creating those problems, insisting that she was the smartest person in the room within Kensington palace and they would have been pulling their hair out and she would have been wasting their resources. I mean, I don't know if I'm allowed to repeat this, but I do know that there is a charity in London that she was working with. She hated the pictures that she, first of all, she insisted on a very expensive photographer. She hated the pictures that they'd taken of her. She wanted a brand new photographer, she wanted brand new photographs. Now, wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars of this charity's resources when she was a working royal. And that would have been one of 100, you know, examples we would be talking about today if she was still a member of the British Royal family. She isn't the smartest person in the room and she wastes people's time and money because she's a big blanket idiot.
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Maureen Callahan
You know what else the problem is to Kinsey? A couple of things. One, to your point about like why she's not doing these micro digital pieces for TikTok, whatever. She can't because she's incapable of being pithy. I mean, just try to watch an episode of With Love Megan. Try to watch her articulate a single thought. She can't do it. And you know why? I think part of it is she's not that bright. She's not funny. You have to be smart to be funny. You absolutely. A sense of humor I think is a key sign of intelligence. But I think she's always also thinking ahead to how she's going to sound and how she's going to look and what people are going to think about her. And it's that level of just constant like perseveration about herself and her image that keeps her from being at all personable, at all relatable at all somebody you would want to watch. And so for this reason, Netflix was in a real bind. And again, it's their own fault. I do not feel sorry for them. I do not feel sorry for any corporation that pumped this shit into our cultural bloodstream. You know, take that loss and learn your lesson. She's not even a person you could put talented people around and really build something. Like, let's say just for the sake of argument, she was somebody who listened and could take constructive criticism and direction and had a little humility. She lacks any of the just raw material that you need to create someone people want to watch.
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Kinsey Schofield
And to your point, I think that if she were even a little bit self deprecating, she would be more.
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Maureen Callahan
She thinks she is. She thinks she is. I'm trying to think of like an episode of an instance where she thought she was like making fun of herself.
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Kinsey Schofield
I think she told Bloomberg maybe that I'm not perfect. No, no, no. It was Harper Bizarre. She was like, I'm not perfect. I make mistakes. And it was a. It was snappy in the way she says it. But then she doesn't go into any of the mistakes she's made, which is crucial to actually look like you are self aware. You need to give us some examples of failure. But she never admits failure. But you know, I think when you have, when you're self deprecating, you it is easier to have a sense of humor. But you're right. Like if she dropped something and the dog jumped down and licked it, it wouldn't be a laugh out loud moment. There would be panic across her face and she'd like, we gotta do it again. We gotta do it again. And she's just not capable of like the word that she loves to repeat, like authentic joy. You know, there's just no authenticity there. There's no real joy. And she did absolutely in the cut. Talk about the Bachelor producer in her head or on her shoulder that walked her through that interview. So you're right about how she's just so anal about everything.
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Maureen Callahan
What an incredible metaphor or allegory really, given what's going on with the Bachelor. To your points about the Harper's Bazaar piece, you know, it's. First of all, I do think she drugged that dog while shooting With Love Meghan in that kitchen. Because I don't know a dog who I've yet to meet a dog who is not food motivated. Okay? And that dog was like just dozing in his dog bed in a kitchen where there was a lot of cooking and a lot of activity and new people coming in and dogs want to run to a new person and sniff and make see if they're a threat, protect their owner. Unless this dog doesn't give a shit about his owner because, you know, she's awful. But that Harper's Bizarre, the Harper's Bazaar piece, excuse me, where she says, oh yeah, I Make mistakes. It's the same one where she drove in a motorcade in a luxury SUV vehicle to a bunch of underprivileged girls at the La Brea Tar Pits in la. Did like a cameo and then left and then had the journalist meet her at again, a borrowed townhouse in New York City and have the footman who opened the door bellow Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, when it seemed there was nobody else in the house but Megan.
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Kinsey Schofield
No, it's. It's so awkward.
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Maureen Callahan
It's so Netflix. That's the kind of footage you need. They're too cowed by those two.
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Kinsey Schofield
Yeah, that's exactly what we want to see. We want to see that chaos. I don't. But what we're seeing is somebody that is trying to be a duchess and despite quitting that job, trying to reinforce that she is this Disney princess and we're not buying it. We watch. She's a wrecking ball. She's a bull in a china shop.
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Maureen Callahan
She's also an American. She's also an American. And we just. We don't take to it. You know, there you can. There are people who will be forever more royal than people of the royal blood. I mean, you could say that about Catherine, Princess of Wales. She conducts herself far more like a royal of the blood than many members you and I could name right now.
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Kinsey Schofield
Yeah, absolutely. I'll start with Camilla.
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Maureen Callahan
I would just point to Andrew.
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Kinsey Schofield
Oh, well, that was a very extreme example. Yes.
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Maureen Callahan
So let's look at this bathroom video that Megan posted to her Instagram. You know. Oh, oh, first, can we look at the pregnant. The pregnant belly we're gonna have. We're gonna talk about this with Mark Bowden as well. Our beloved Mark Bowden, who I know will call this trophy behavior. Here is Megan on the red carpet for a charity gala, the alliance for Children's Rights. She's proving to us that a. She does have a friend in the world. Yeah. Cuz she's all over her friend who is pregnant and wearing a skin tight dress to show off her baby bump. And Meghan's got her hand all over this woman's pregnant belly. And. And it's so creepy. She's moving it. She's rubbing it. It's up and down. Kinsey.
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Kinsey Schofield
Yeah. I mean, this is a friend that she established. A friendship she established. Established through Trevor Engelson. Kelly. And Kelly does appear in who Trevor is. That's Meghan's first husband. Allegedly.
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Maureen Callahan
Is that the. Is that the husband who she informed she wanted a divorce by FedExing back her engagement and wedding rings. Yes.
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Kinsey Schofield
After burning every single photo and VHS tape of their wedding in Jamaica where everybody could smoke a blunt. There was. There was pot at every single table for you at their wedding.
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Maureen Callahan
So royal.
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Kinsey Schofield
I know. She's so chic.
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Maureen Callahan
Classy. Hey, let's talk also about classy. Have you and I talked about this on the air? Forgive me for forgetting. Have we talked about the solid, the major solid that Trevor did her after
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Kinsey Schofield
that indignity where there was a alleged book of past lovers that.
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Maureen Callahan
You won't say it. I'll say it. Sex diary. Go ahead.
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Kinsey Schofield
There was. Megan was clearing out, Asked a friend to clear out some of her. Megan asked a friend to clear out her storage unit and some of her things. Allegedly. Allegedly. In LA when she was moving to London to be with. And a friend found an old diary that had some lists in it and some achievements. And that friend allegedly called Trevor and said, look, guess what I found. What? What could I. What should I do with this? I know a tabloid would love it. And Trevor, being the gentleman and good guy that he is, who'd been ignored by Megan for years at this point, completely ghosted somehow says, bring it to me. Let me have it. Gets his hands on it, messages Meghan and says, I have this. And all of a sudden she's willing to communicate with him, and she instructs him to hand this over to someone else or to put it in some.
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Maureen Callahan
Doubtless the United States Embassy.
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Kinsey Schofield
Yeah. Anyway, he takes care of what could have been an extremely problematic scenario for Megan. Allegedly. Allegedly. But it's an example of what a good human he was. And I mean, we know that because he has yet to say a bad thing about her. He has plenty that he could say. The people around him, even Spencer Pratt, who's running for mayor in LA right now, friend of his, was like, Meghan was always trying to climb the social ladder. She tried to use Trevor to do that as well. She thought Trevor was going to help her career. And when he didn't, when she secured suits on her own, she thought, I don't need you anymore, and I'm gonna use my fame now to date more famous people and to try to elevate myself through d these other people. And ultimately she devastated Trevor, who was just ridiculously in love with her and smitten with her. And so I don't know how we got on the Trevor train, but here we are.
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Maureen Callahan
Well, Trevor dodged a bullet. Treasure. Trevor dodged a bullet. I have only heard very good things about him. I Have heard from people who know him that he has been approached many a time to sell his story. He will not talk. That is a classy guy. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna give Megan a pro tip. Yeah, I'm going to guess that the friend. The friend who she deputized to go clear out her storage unit again, a taker. You know, I'm gonna get. We live in the iPhone era. I'm gonna guess a few little photos were taken for historical purposes. I'm gonna guess. And I think if she wants to take a lesson from this, which she will not. She will not, she might want to reconsider how she treats people. Yeah, you might be incentivizing them to air your dirty, filthy fucking laundry. Our last thing to look at is this video that she posted to, I believe, to her Instagram. It's now on TikTok of Megan. It looks like the same gala. You probably would know off the top of your head, Kinsey. Okay, so she goes to the restroom because she is a mere mortal, and like the rest of us, she needs bathroom breaks. You wouldn't know it. I mean, she. She acts like she. She's. She's so elevated that bodily functions are beneath her. She goes into this restroom and she. Look at how whimsical she is. She walks in and the. The women who are taking care of the restroom and who, you know, hand you your lovely towel to dry your hands and ask, would you like a mint? And, you know, Megan has no cash on her. She's not tipping these women. She walks in and they're performing for her. They want to impress her, and they're doing a dance party. These women who are lucky if they clear eight bucks an hour at a gala like this. And here's Megan just laughing with her, with her hand to her. Her chest and just practically collapsing. She's so whimsical. She fight. Like this is weird. Funny stuff like this just happens everywhere she goes. She's magic with her fairy dust.
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Kinsey Schofield
Oh, my God. Yeah. So this is conveniently recorded, by the way. I mean, like, if. Okay, if this happens to you, cute story, but the fact that Kelly, the pregnant woman who's carrying, you know, she's got a lot going on. Conveniently has got her cell phone out to capture this magic moment with Megan. And then it's conveniently distributed to Entertainment Tonight now that Access Hollywood is gone. Rest in peace. Entertainment Tonight.
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Maureen Callahan
Seems we're coming for Entertainment Tonight. Good, good. Put that one in the ground, too.
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Kinsey Schofield
Meghan Markle seems to Be fantastic funneling her bullshit to Entertainment Tonight. Because don't forget, it's just a few days ago where someone had the audacity to ask for Jack Quaid on a red carpet from Entertainment Tonight. How was it to work with Meghan Markle? And he dodged the question like a pro. He was like, actually, I'm in the movie with. And then he reads off the leads and talks about how much fun they had. Completely ignores the Meghan Markle question. Entertainment Tonight uploads it saying, Jack Quaid had so much fun with Meghan Markle. Lie. I don't know who's. Who's Meghan Markle is sending checks to over there, but this is Entertainment Tonight redistributing this bullshit video. And again, you're so right. It's just they're trying to prove Megan is the girls girl. Megan's so much fun. Look at Megan participating in a TikTok dance. This is all a PR stunt. This is a desperate attempt to change the narrative that this woman is not so completely toxic and everyone can't stand her. And that's the truth. I live in the city. No one wants to work with her. But God bless Jack Quaid. No one likes Meghan Markle. And apparently they're having to engage the help, which is fine, God love them, but you're being used by Meghan Markle, who's getting paid God knows how much for these women to meet her and take a selfie with her in Australia. Not worth it.
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Maureen Callahan
You're so right, by the way. About, like, I didn't even think about. I'm like, who, who is taking this video, this like totally spontaneous video. You're right. It's Kelly, the very pregnant friend who, like, you know, when you're that pregnant, you have to go to the bathroom all the time. It's agony. So she's. And by the way, what fancy gala in a five star hotel? Have you ever attended Kinsey where you walk into the restroom and they've got a boombox in there so that the staff can dance and gyrate. But she. This is someone who gyrated herself and twerked while allegedly reportedly pregnant in a labor and delivery room. Thinks, thinks this is how. She's like an alien. She's like, like this is not how humans behave. And it as. It is as staged and stiff as that World Series video. Remember?
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Kinsey Schofield
Yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, here I come, here I come, here I come. And he's like, what's happened? What's happening? It's just like. And Kinsey Also, I'm just gonna say, she said, I live in the city. She means la. She. She lives and works there. And she knows. She knows what that town really thinks of her. My last quote for your thoughts, Kinsey, before we have to spit Ado. For the moment. Tom Bower, who I know you love, has a new book out about these two. He recently appeared on Tom Sykes's Royalist podcast. And Tom Sykes asked Tom Bower, like, listen, is there a path back for these two to the royal family? Tom Bower said, no for Megan. And Meghan doesn't even want it. Meghan wants to be a celebrity in Montesquieu. She will die trying. But for Harry. Oh, this is Harry. He thinks maybe. He thinks they can contain Harry, kind of like an oil spill, like the Exxon Valdez oil spill. They can somehow contain his emotional and psychological garbage. But of Megan, I want your thoughts on this devastating quote. It's so good. Bower says it is only a recipe for more and more sensational danger were they to take Meghan back. She doesn't want it. Neither want. Neither party wants it. Because Megan, Bower says, would always look for a way to complain. She can't be satisfied. She can't.
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Kinsey Schofield
No. And she. Her objective in life in the last six years has been to undermine the Prince and Princess of Wales. And that would be so catastrophic. I think you might be wrong. And I think you're going to agree with me when you hear me say this. Meghan will be famous because she's going to divorce Prince Harry. She's going to write a book about what a toxic, sick, mental nutcase he is, and she's going to reposition herself on all the talk shows.
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Maureen Callahan
It won't work.
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Kinsey Schofield
About how she's the victim again. It won't work.
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Maureen Callahan
I have to disagree with you here, Kins. No, because here's what I think. She already is famous. But there is a difference between being famous and being culturally relevant.
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Kinsey Schofield
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
She is not the latter, and she never will be. And just as we here at the Nerve predict that when her father dies, she's going to accuse him of sexual abuse. It's the thing that the mainstream media will not say. We all know it's true and we all know it will be a lie. Just my opinion, when she does pen the divorce memoir and Harry, wake up. Because that Vanity Fair cover story last summer called American Hustlers had it had good reporting that she was secretly shopping a divorce memoir around major publishers without his knowledge. Wake the fuck up. Yeah, she's gonna claim that he abused her, that he was a drunk, that he was a drug addict, that the children were in danger, that she did everything she could, that she is both the victim and the hero here. And now, don't we all have to reconsider what we think of her because she suffered in silence for so long? To which I say none of us are gonna buy it. Give it a shot.
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Kinsey Schofield
We're not going to, but we know that Today show will. And that's why the Nerve is here. Okay?
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Maureen Callahan
That's why the Nerve is here. You know, like, as, as, as frustrated as I get with the mainstream media. It's like, how much do I really want them to change? Because, like, the Nerve has our lane wide open. So, like, leave it to us. Leave it to us. Kinsey, we love having you. You look amazing. We hope you have an incredible weekend. I know you've got a very exciting week coming up. I hope you enjoy it and we will talk to you soon.
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Kinsey Schofield
Thank you. Also, it's my birthday.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, and I forgot. I meant to say that to you. Happy birthday. I know it's your birthday. I love you talking about this. I get so worked up about Meghan Markle. She's such a black cloud. This is what it does to me. It impedes my vision for an actual friend who is an actual day of consequence. Happy birthday, Kinsey. The troublemakers all wish you all the best and many more.
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Kinsey Schofield
I love you so much. Bye.
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Maureen Callahan
Love you too. Bye. Bye. That's it with kins and the latest on the gruesome twosome. Coming up, troublemaker feedback, art and a very special gift from one of our favorites in New Zealand. You know who of I speak who of whereof I speak. We will be back in a minute. Troublemakers are banks cashing your interest checks while you are buried in debt. PDS debt can help. PDS debt has freed hundreds of thousands of people from credit card, personal loan and medical debt with tailored plans that put you first and there is no minimum credit score needed. They have got an A rating from the Better Business Bureau and a nearly five star rating on trustpilot. With thousands of real success stories. Every month you delay costs you more. So don't wait another month. Take back control. In 30 seconds, get your free personalized assessment and the best option for you@pds.com nerve that's pds.com nerve.
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Maureen Callahan
We are back. Now we have a nice chunk of Troublemaker feedback.
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Kinsey Schofield
Art.
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Maureen Callahan
We've got a little film. It's all amazing. My favorite, favorite part of the show. First, our beloved Paul from New Zealand mailed the Nerve a gift on the occasion of our 100th episode. And he sent this card, which I'm gonna hold up and we will also show full screen. Thank you, Maureen and Team Nerve. Look at this, Paul. I just couldn't love you guys more. It says Maureen. Congrats, Paul and Pam from New Zealand, February 2026. He put in stills from our teaser trailer that that dropped like in March of 2025. And said inside that the 100th episode is the best time for new. And then sent me a lovely gift which I'm going to keep private, but was basically like, go treat yourself. And when I say that the Nerve has the absolute best, best community going, it's stuff like that that just, you know, Paul, so thoughtful, so heartfelt. Don't make me. I'm not crying. Are you crying? I'm not crying. Okay. Speaking of not crying, this from troublemaker Linda. The header. Hoda gets to play the devoted friend. And this goes to her attempts to squeeze a couple of tears out while Savannah Guthrie sat across from her and basically spoke about how destroyed she is since her mother went missing 53 days ago. Today, we're gonna have a lot to say about that. We're gonna have a lot to say about that. Oh, it's 54 days. I believe it's 53 or 54. Forgive me. Subject forward the Other Man, Michael Bergen's memoir of his lengthy relationship with Carolyn Bessette, which bled into her marriage to JFK Jr which we have been reading from here at the Nerve almost every week. And I have been hearing from so many of you guys who are like this book is unavailable. Why isn't it available anymore on Amazon? Like, I'm seeing it going used for like $3,000. My library doesn't carry it. Guess what? Guess what. I got an email last night from a troublemaker who said, maureen, it's now available on Kindle. I went right to Amazon. Lo and behold, you can now download the Other man for like 9.99 on on Amazon's Kindle. I highly recommend. Every troublemaker does this. Okay, let's get this book also on the New York Times bestseller list and send a message to the culture that we want the truth, not the bullshit. Okay, here's another related email from troublemaker Rebecca. Dear Maureen, I thought I would just check on Amazon to see if Michael Bergen's book might be available. It is going to be re released. Mark your calendars, troublemakers on June 23, 2026, in four formats. Good for Michael Bergen. I think we should all support him. And let me tell you, there is no better beach read than Michael Bergen's the Other Man. Troublemaker Rebecca says she believes the Nerve is responsible for this. I believe it too. And I'm the last person to give myself any kind of credit. But hey, there's nothing we can't do, people, right? Timothee Shyamalan, Ding Dong getting denied an Oscar, the Other man getting re released not just in Kindle, but in four formats. What can't we do? Dear Maureen, this is from a troublemaker named E. I love you. Just saying it's cast, not casted. I got spanked a little bit by you guys, deservedly so. I was talking to Rob about the casting of some show. I don't know if it was Ask not or something else. And I was saying, this is why they cast her or casted her. I didn't know the proper term, but a few of you said it's cast, not casted. And I thank you because I also struggle. I struggle mightily with a new word in the lexicon, which is screenshot. Now there is the noun screenshot, as in that is a screenshot of something. And then there is screenshotted, which is I screenshotted something, which I find very clunky, I think, you know, shot is a past tense word. And I feel like, why can't screenshot? Like, I screenshot that. But I kind of also get it because one of my bete noirs is, you know, and I'm sorry if you're among the people who do it. It's a very common thing. People I love do it. All the time. Who say I text instead of I texted. It's I texted. It's past. Text is the noun or the verb, but texted is the past. Like once you write the text and send it, you texted somebody. You know, I could go on all day. Okay. Anyway, this is from troublemaker Heather and this is the short film. And she writes, don't interrupt me. And she's got like a pink teddy bear wearing, I believe, a Harrods mini hoodie coming into the frame as she's got Ask not on audiobook up on her screen. And I just died. I died. Like the effort taken to send this stuff into the nerve. We never take it for granted. Love you. Love you, troublemaker Heather. Okay, this is from troublemaker Robin. She said she she liked ask not a lot because she found it not to be a rehash of things already in the universe, like so many Kennedy books are. It's just a rehash of a rehash of a rehash. It's barely reheated slop now. Ooh, exotic. This troublemaker was reading it while on a transatlantic cruise. I would sit on Dec, reading and reading and reveling in the book. It was windy and my wasband. Oh, I love this portmanteau meaning ex husband Wuzband suggested I take the COVID off so it wouldn't flap and be annoying. And I shouted, no, I want people to see what I am reading. Everyone talks about books. It's a two week journey. Lots of great conversation. I. I love this. And she's going to read American Predator next. She says she's going away in May and finds Israel Keys fascinating. Robin, I think you will not be disappointed with American Predator. I think you will not be disappointed. Let me know. Let me know. Hi, Maureen. Last week's episode. So we get emails from a troublemaker named David in San Diego and his last name. He shares a last name with a publishing legend, a magazine editor who is a legend. And I don't think it's the same guy who I. It's another story for another time. Okay. Last week's episode of Love Story exit strategy had a real who's afraid of Virginia Woolf vibe. I agree. But troublemaker David says. And I also agree these two are no Liz and Dick in the movie, Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton are all in on revealing each other's flaws cut by cut, with dialogue as sharp as a knife. In Love Story, they'd have done better to resurrect Sandy Dennis and George Siegel in holograms as the lingering Dinner guests and in. But in Virginia Woolf, they're actually like hostages. Like, they keep trying to like figure out a way to get out of there and they then they realize that part of this is all for show for them. You know, it's. If you haven't seen it, avail yourself. It's amazing. Better yet, David writes, since they are already taking creative license, it would have been interesting. This is so brilliant to have cousin Anthony and Carolyn's new bestie Carol to add some drama. I couldn't agree more. Troublemaker. I'm not going to say your name. You haven't given me permission. You know who you are. Belle Burden and her insufferable entitled memoir of being an affluent idiot when she married a narcissist needs the wood chipper treatment. Please, please, please put the white hot nerve glare on her. Especially now that there is a film deal with fellow New York nepo Gwinnie and whisperings that she is another Amy Griffin. Would you guys like me to slice and dice Bell Burden's memoir, which in some substance is about a rich New York City socialite. And during COVID her husband came home one day and said, I want a divorce. That's the book. She got a book deal. She got a ton of glowing coverage. Media elsewhere among celebrities. Now it's going to be a movie. I'm happy to do it. If you guys want it. Just let me know. Maureen. This is from Troublemaker. May I say your name? I'm not gonna say it asking. Please do not let Lindsey Vonn get away with this. Lindsey Vonn is on looks like the next cover of Vanity Fair, posing like a sex bomb with her injured leg that she almost lost in a vainglorious stunt for the ages. And Bill from Brooklyn was right. He said to me from the very beginning, this whole thing is all about her need for fame and validation. There is nothing heroic about what she's doing. In fact, she's stealing a slot from a kid who really worked their heart out for it for years. She stole it. And he's totally right. We're going to get him back on very soon. This troublemaker adds very salient point that Lindsay Von's selfishness put first responders in harm's way if she ever competes again because she's making noise about it. Can you believe it? She's fucking delusional and is stranded on a mountain. They need to leave her there to fend for herself and figure it out. Yeah, give Lindsay like the 127 days treatment. Okay, Maureen. Troublemaker Rich A comment. A frequent. Sorry, a frequent contributor to the Nerve. Make Hoda speaking with Savannah make sense. I'm going to. In. In. In. Like, in the way that we can. You know what I mean, Rich? And why, he asks, is Hoda making those sounds? After each damn sentence, Savannah says, oh, Rich, no, no. She does it while Savannah is speaking. And we're gonna get into it, trust me. Maureen, this is Troublemaker. Therese, I love that name. Thank you for the awesome recommendation of the 1955 classic movic movie. Excuse me, Marty finally got around to viewing. Loved it. Oh, Therese, this makes me so happy. If you have not seen the classic film Marty with Ernest Borgnine, you must. You must. Written by Patty Chayefsky. Dear Maureen, I've been with you since episode one. Thank you. It's Troublemaker from Louisiana. No name needed. You got it, Troublemaker. She says to me that at first, the foul language really bothered me. As time passed, however, this Troublemaker found that it became freeing. I have now adopted it. She writes, as a tool to maneuver through menopause. A good fuck off once in a while is deeply cleansing. Yes, it is, isn't it? It's deeply cathartic. And there are so many things in people in the culture that deserve it. No other two words will do sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Maureen, thank you so much for reading my email on your show on Tuesday and recommending the careless love biography about Elvis Presley. You are welcome. I cannot recommend that book highly enough. I am really looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Epic after you go and see the movie. May I share? Troublemaker, that I went yesterday. I looked on my phone after an appointment in the city and was like, oh, it's playing at this theater over in Times Square. Walked over, got to the kiosk, and it was nowhere to be found. And I asked an employee, I said, hey, what's up? And they said, oh, yeah, it's gone. So I'm like, why? Why is it in, like, real time on my phone as playing here as a matinee and. But you're telling me it's not here. And she goes, well, yeah, it's been a month. I mean, that's a good run for a movie. And I'm like, this is where we're at. I mean, this thing was shot for imax, you know, it's like, I was so heartbroken. I'm still gonna try to see it, but, like, I. I can't believe it, you know, it's like it's becoming a pilgrimage, you know? It's like an epic journey just to see Baz Luhrmann's epic Elvis Presley in concert. Troublemaker Lisa continues. Your conversation on Wednesday's Nerve at night with Rob Shooter was so powerful. My heart aches for Justin Bieber. Same, same, same with Rob. We talked about it. You can see it in Justin's face and especially in his eyes, how his light has been extinguished and his soul destroyed by those monsters in the music industry and it just spirals out. It's the entertainment industry on the whole. I can't bear to see clips of him when he first started out and how excited and naive he was. How could anyone harm a child? We don't know what happened to Justin. I'm just going to put that disclaimer in. We don't know. But you know, Rob and I were talking about Justin's confrontation caught on camera with Usher at Beyonce's post Oscar party. And you know, Beyonce could look no further than her husband Jay Z, who was in business with Diddy for quite some time. You want to tell me nobody knew? Hi, Maureen, this is Nancy, your troublemaker from Tennessee. I am interested in the Today show gossip. What do you hear about Carson Daly and Dylan Dreyer? We are getting to it. My friend Carson seems to genuinely care about Savannah. Is this a farce, too? You bet. I will have more details forthcoming. She likes my taste in music. Thanks. We're all very much of like minds here. She also loves, loves, loves Chris Stapleton. And she is also not alone among troublemakers for recommending me over to the Steel Drivers. Chris sang with them from 2005 to 2010. His voice in this band. Oh, she's saying that what I'm missing in his voice. And she's right. I didn't pick up on the bluegrass roots. And she is right. She says their best song in her opinion, if it hadn't been for love. We'll be listening to it as soon as I'm done here, okay? Oh, she also read Ask not and says this is salient. I am gobsmacked at the lack of morals and empathy. I am an RN and have mostly held director positions in jails, prisons and mental hospitals. I thought I had heard it all. That is the point. Okay, just a couple of more because I have Marlene's gonna yell at me. She's gonna yell at me for going over Vis a vis the Bachelorette getting yanked. And I'm just gonna say I just saw a report before coming on to talk to you guys that ABC might be reconsidering And ABC might just decide to do a heavy edit and air this season. And you know what I'm thinking? It's not just the loss in advertising revenue, but they've seen that this is a tinderbox and it's getting a lot of clicks and likes. And in our culture, there's no such thing as bad attention. There's just attention. So the Nerve is going to keep our boot on the neck of abc. You know what, Eric? We dare you. We fucking dare you. Air it. Air it. Linear TV is dying anyway. YouTube is exploding. Air it, you fucking psychopaths. Hi, Maureen. I got drunk one night at a bar. This is a child abuser. We saw her hurl. One troublemaker emailed me. She said that those metal chairs that Taylor Frankie Paul hurled at her then boyfriend or husband with her baby on a couch. I'm talking like a two year old. To me, that's a baby. And hit that child. The husband alleges they were seven pounds each. Child abuser. You psychopaths at abc. Go ahead, air it. Hi. And. Oh, this, this, this email goes to the mainstream media, including the New York Times and others. Calling, calling what we all saw in that video of domestic abuse, of savage domestic abuse. An encounter. An encounter that was an attack. Hi, Maureen. This is from troublemaker Tim. I got drunk one night at a bar and came home with a black eye. My wife asked me what happened and I told her I had an encounter. An encounter? She asked. So I confessed that it was an encounter with another drunk guy's fist, but that I was just minding my own business, having an innocent chat with his wife while he was in the little boy's room. I can report from the field that none of this bullshit actually works. My wife didn't buy any of it. Words and honesty do matter. Keep your feedback coming. Keep it coming. You guys email me please@maureenvilmaycaremedia.com or DM me on Instagram at either Maureen Callahan writer or Henerve show. And remember to subscribe to the Nerves Substack. That is our weekly email. It's full of all kinds of bonus content, stuff we couldn't find fit in the show. Troublemaker Talk. Each week we talk to one of you guys and get more into your stories and what brings you to the Nerve and who else you like talking to. I give you my racks, I give you a note. We've got some art. We usually have TED Talk, you know, we let you know what the little dude's up to. Teddy Van Halen, how his investigative detail is coming along. Go to thenervshow.com you'll see a prompt. It'll say, would you like to subscribe to the Nerve substack? Put in your email. That's it. Voila. Every Friday, just as today, after the last full nerve of the week, that thing winds up in your inbox. Coming up, we're going to talk about rarefied air that you would think star fucking would just have no place in. And I'm here to tell you you're wrong. And we've got a celebrity who got a huge chunk of real estate in a very esteemed publication and is making the media rounds. And it's pegged to an illness. 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Maureen Callahan
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And, you know, he took it over from Tina Brown. And I think Tina Brown is among the most genius editors of the modern age. And if you haven't read her Vanity Fair diaries, read them. I'm hoping she does publish her New Yorker diaries. But when she took over the New Yorker, there was a lot of pearl clutching, you know, among the chattering class. Like, Tina's gonna tabloid it, tabloidize it. You know, Tina brought in Roseanne Barr to guest edit an issue like Tina's bringing in, like, you know, what does she want? The rubes who like watch Roseanne, you know what I mean? And then she, Tina Brown is who she is, okay? And she makes no apologies for that. David Remnick was installed as the new editor and he was supposed to bring back the sort of more genteel New Yorker of the Wallace Shawns of the, you know, and it's like he's a star fucker too. You know, the New Yorker should be publishing real writers who need the exposure. Not the Jesse Eisenbergs of the world or the Lena Dunhams of the world. And now Amanda Peet. Amanda Peet got a huge chunk of real estate in the New Yorker. We're going to show a full screen of this. Here she is. I printed it out. It's called My season of Ativan. Is there a cri de cor more basic amongst a segment of the privileged middle aged white women of LA and New York City. She's from New York City. She now lives in la. She went to Columbia. Her mother is a psychoanalyst. She came from privileged background. She's married to one half of the brain trust behind the HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones. You see where I'm going. There is an audio version of this piece that is read by her best friend and Ryan Murphy pet. Sarah Paulson, the sum and substance. Okay, let me, allow me to read you the first line of this, this like eight page feature in the New Yorker. Amanda Pete's first line. If you're to listen, the timestamp, it tells you it takes 27 minutes to listen. Who's got. If you want 27 minutes of my time, you better be given me something really good. I mean really effing good. First line of Amanda Peet's piece for the New Yorker, personal essay, quote, I told my mom everything, even when I gave my first blowjob. Again, I referenced Tina Brown and Roseanne Barr. Now I'm going to summarize this piece for you. Amanda Pete, her parents were dying on opposite coasts. Again, this is a woman who has a lot of money and a lot of means. Her husband's got Game of Thrones money, okay? They're getting the best treatment, the best care money can buy. She gets diagnosed with breast cancer. I'm very sorry about that. I truly am. She is diagnosed with a very treatable kind of breast cancer that was caught very early, stage one. That's the story. There is no larger point to Amanda's essay. There is no original insight. There is nothing unique about it. I am sorry to say this is an all too common issue facing Gen X. People are living longer just because they're living longer. You know what that means? That means they're often sicker. In their 80s and their 90s, they're getting catastrophic illnesses. And modern medicine keeps them alive, sometimes for far too long when the kinder thing to do would be to let them go. So it's known as the sandwich generation, where you've got a generation like Gen X now, mid age, older parents who need a lot of care. They're trying to raise their own children. And now that they're in middle age, they are at risk for the kinds of cancers that often show up. You know, just about almost every guy is going to get prostate cancer at some point. You know, it's very treatable. Some people live with it forever without really getting it treated. This piece belongs in People magazine at best as an interview. Amanda Peet, and it's a breast cancer journey now. Everything's, it's not a diagnosis, it's a journey. She's been making the media rounds and we're going to listen to some of this and you know, listen, she's saying that she wrote this piece with no objective or goal. She just wanted to write it. It was therapeutic. In order to get an assignment like this at the New Yorker, it takes effort. You have to give them a writing sample. One would think you're working with an editor. I'm going to bet this thing went through five to 10 drafts. I'm going to bet her husband had eyes, if not edits on this piece, if not some rewrites. It's a big deal to have your first piece of writing, which as far as I'm aware, this is her first piece of prose published in the effing New Yorker. I think her goal is a book deal. I think our goal is like, you know, seven figure book deal. All right, so Amanda first. She's also out publicizing and the timing of this is no accident because she's also starring in season two of youf Friends and Neighbors playing Jon Hamm's ex wife. We took Jon Hamm to the woodshed, the very debut episode of the Nerve inaugural, I should say you would all correct me, rightly. So we're gonna look at Amanda telling et about her piece and the point of it. Here we go. I want to commend you on your
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Kinsey Schofield
beautiful, beautifully written New Yorker essay.
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Maureen Callahan
I right there, she's talking to a quote unquote entertainment reporter named Cassie Deloria, who is about as exciting as lukewarm milk and as much of a presence on camera. And she says, I want to congratulate you on your beautiful and beautifully written essay. It's neither of those things. It's pretty pedestrian. Again, I'm very sorry that she's been through these traumas. They are extremely commonplace. And unless you know what, if you want to read something about, like, someone who was diagnosed with cancer and has real wisdom to impart, read a book called When Breath Becomes Air. It was written by a brilliant young doctor who was diagnosed with incurable, I believe it was lung cancer. That book stayed on the New York Times bestseller list for months. That is a gem. And I recommended it to my father when he was diagnosed with terminal cancer. He read it and loved it. In fact, he gave it to his wonderful oncologist who you know because he wrote about it from both the POV of a brilliant doctor whose mind was going to be applied to curing the most difficult diseases and then becoming diagnosed with a disease that was not only incurable, it was terminal. And it was gonna take him in a pretty ugly way. That is something worth reading or my friend, my dear friend Susanna cahalan who wrote an incredible medical memoir called Brain on Fire. Not only did she come through a rare autoimmune disease that could have killed her or at the very least had her sent to a mental institution, but she wrote about it with such originality and heart and humanity that that book stayed on the New York Times bestseller list forever. It has since sold over 1 million copies. I'm sorry, Amanda, Pete, that this happened to you, but that does not make you a writer. It doesn't. It doesn't mean that, like, we need to read an essay that's like, and then this happened. And then this happened. And then this happened. And then this happened. There is zero insight here. It has no place in the New Yorker. None. Now, Cassie is going to ask Amanda if she and her co star, Olivia Munn. Her co star on your Friends and Neighbors got even closer than she presumes, Cassie. I mean, they already were because they both have had breast cancer. Here we go. Like Olivia Munn as well, sharing her story. It's so important to help others.
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Kinsey Schofield
And you guys are doing just that with your platform. Has she been a source of support for you?
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Maureen Callahan
Yes. Yes. Totally. Beautiful women supporting each other in the hardest of times. And it's so beautiful to see. Cassie, you're a moron. You're on another failing entertainment show that is just really a hand job in the guise of an entertainment show. She's sitting there editorializing, oh, beautiful women supporting other beautiful women. It's so beautiful to see. That's what we call in the trade a word replacement. You're not supposed to use the same word twice in a piece, but especially close together. Anyway, Amanda, here's what I saw. Here's what I saw. Did this bring you even closer to Olivia? And Amanda goes, oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. You know what our good friend Mark Bowden would be saying about that? The head is saying. The head is telling the truth. That's a no. That's no. It's a great experiment. Try it sometime. Try to say yes while shaking your head no. It's harder than you think. She's not close to Olivia Mund. They probably don't even like each other. Okay. Just because two people have. Have a version of the same illness. There are a million different kinds of breast cancers. Olivia's was a different kind that resulted in her getting a double mastectomy at a very young age. That is a real trauma. Real, real trauma. But, you know, I. Someone who would know. So I'll just keep my source extremely vague. Told Me, this was back when Olivia was first really becoming famous. That. And she's not that famous, but you know what I mean, she was getting. She was. She wanted to be a celebrity. Told me that Olivia would throw her own grandmother under the bus if it meant she could get famous. Okay. Then Amanda went over to the Today show with Hoda and. Oh, my God, you guys, I'm telling you, we are coming at Hoda with both barrels. Oh, my God, we're. Next week is a lot. We've got like, we have so much good stuff in store for you next week. I can't even. And we've got some Easter eggs in today's show, by the way, for the mini. You know. So anyway, Amanda went over to the Today show where she's both promoting her breast cancer journey slash essay in the New Yorker and season two of the highly mediocre Apple TV series rich people with problems, your friends and neighbors. Hoda is going to ask her. Okay, first Hoda, she's sitting there with Craig. So Amanda doesn't get the esteem of just a one on one with Craig. Who's the top poobah there, at least for now. Savannah's coming back. Everybody's sweating it out. So he's with Hoda and Hoda leans in like the star fucker she is. You know, Hoda is just levitating over at Studio 1A. She did not want to be home with her little girls. She did not. This is where she wants to be, interviewing celebrities and trying to befriend them and get them into her joy one on one tent. So Hoda leans in and says to Amanda how we've all speaking for us all. Speak for yourself. Do not speak for me, please. How we've all been waiting with bated breath for Amanda Peet to quote, come back to film. By which she means proper cinema. I died, you guys. I died. Let's watch it. We'll talk about it on the back end. By the way, we've been waiting for you to come back to film. We've been waiting for you here, but also 10 years. So. So this had to be a good one for you to come back. It was 10 years and I was really devastated. What. So what was it about this script that brought you back? Okay, this is my favorite thing when celebrities go. You know, someone told me it was 10 years. They bean count everything. It's the same thing when a celebrity goes. Yeah, you know, I mean, I woke up at 10am and it was my mom who called me and said, you know, What? You've been nominated for an Oscar. That alarm is set. They are up all night. They can't sleep. They're up early in the morning. They've got that broadcast on. They've got someone taping them like a personal assistant. If their name gets read, we can capture the completely organic surprise, you know? Then Hoda says, so it really had to be a good project to get you back to film, you know, Amanda says, yeah, I was devastated to hear it's been that long. Which means she would have given it to be back in film. But Hoda says it had to be a really good film to bring you back. Right? So tell us, what was it about this project that brought you back to film? I'll tell you what it was, Hoda. It's a movie and it's a paycheck. That's it. That's it. And that's all it's about. In Amanda's words, this unique piece of cinema is about, quote, a rich Brooklyn mom who is having an affair. Again, I don't think you can get more basic than that. It's like it's a cultural cancer. You know, not to make light of cancer, but it really is a disease. It's like we're blanketed with this bullshit rich ladies with problems that a lot of money and access can solve. Now, Hoda is going to get into the disease part of this interview. So we have to shoot shift. We have to shift our body language, our tone and tenor. We have to raise our eyebrows, look concerned. We're going to bring ourselves into it, but only so much. Only so much. And we're going to, you know, we're going to try to just. We're, you know, we're going to empathize now, you know, so Hoda is. And again, I'm telling you, this question, these. All these questions were cleared with Amanda's publicist, even though Amanda wrote a personal essay all about it for the New Yorker. You know, we had to clear these questions. Anyway, here we go. You actually just. You revealed something a little while ago that you are now you are. You have a few days ago. And what made you decide you wanted to talk about that publicly, even in that essay? You know, I didn't really have an agenda. I just. It just. Neither of my parents are religious, so I wondered if it was kind of because my parents were in hospice at the time, and maybe it was kind of a way to just kind of cope and contain what was insanity, this kind of intersection of all of these big life moments. So yeah, but I didn't have a plan. I don't know what she means. I truly don't. And I don't believe that she didn't have a plan. I think she does want a book deal or she wants to start a podcast. I think she wants to get another revenue stream going and to be culturally relevant. I do. There's just no other reason to publicize it like that. Unless you're. Unless your real goal is you're like, I want to help other women. I want to make sure that, like, everyone's getting their mammograms. I want to. I'm gonna start a foundation for women who do not have the means that I have. I'm gonna. You know, the kind of breast cancer I have is. She's gonna say this. It's an understudied one. It's a rare one. And those are what they call the orphan diseases. You know, it's a rarer one. And so it needs a lot of funding. And, like, that's what we're gonna do. My husband's got Game of Thrones money. We can call up anybody we know. Billionaires. That's what's. You know, her husband's related to, like, Marc Benioff, who's, like, a major, major effing player in the financial world. David Benioff. It's not that. It's not. I had no agenda. And if it was really just an act of catharsis, you write it down and you throw it in a drawer. You leave it in, like, your. Your own files on your computer. That's it. That's it. This isn't that. Sorry. Here's Hoda's follow up. When you hear the words breast cancer. And, I mean, it happened to me a while ago, but I do know the feeling of hearing the words. But now I feel like it's sort of different, you know, that there is a clear path forward. Hode is a real moron, and I'm gonna continue to bang the drum over here at the Nerve to just yank her off that set. I mean, there are a lot of morons over there. Chanel is a moron. Jenna Bush Hager is a moron. Craig is not. He's got something going on. Not my favorite, but he's got something going on. Al's not a moron. I have heard he's handsy. I will say that. And Savannah's certainly not a moron. But Hoda sits there and goes, you know, you hear breast cancer, and, you know, it's like, it's it's, it's a, it's, it's a drag. But, you know, I feel like with, and she goes like this, I feel like with breast cancer now, like there's a way forward. This is extremely dangerous messaging and I'm gonna tell you why. NBC because she's giving women out there a license to be like, you know what, I'll put my mammogram off for another year. You know what, I may be at the age that, like, they're recommending it, but it feels early to me and I don't have a family history. Not all breast cancer is the same. And there are some forms of breast cancer that are very resistant to treatment and that are deadly and that kill women. So shut your fucking mouth, Hoda. Shut it. That's it. That's it for your Friday edition of the Nerve. Come back and see us tomorrow for a Mini that you will not want to miss that drops on YouTube at 10am Eastern. If you haven't already, check out our substack@thenerveshow.com Be sure to subscribe and join us over at that little party. Plus Nerve Merch. We are currently working up round two of Nerve Merch. So go grab yourself something or pick something up for a fellow troublemaker now@shop thenerve.com we will see you tomorrow for the Mini and then again next week right here, your home at the Nerve where you will never guess what we're about to say next. Next.
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