Meghan Markle’s Mic Flop, Kelly Ripa's Marriage Meltdown, and Celebrity Fashion-less Statements

Summary

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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

Episode: Meghan Markle’s Mic Flop, Kelly Ripa's Marriage Meltdown, and Celebrity Fashion-less Statements
Date: October 29, 2025
Host: Maureen Callahan (with guest Kinsey Schofield)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Nerve" dives into sharp, unsparing commentary on recent royal dramas (with a focus on Meghan Markle and Prince Andrew), public celebrity marital discord (namely Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos), the decline of high fashion as exemplified in baffling celebrity campaigns and sample sale culture, and a heartfelt tribute to Martha Moxley and her mother Dorothy on the 50th anniversary week of Martha’s murder. The tone balances irreverence, keen cultural analysis, and genuine empathy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meghan Markle: Mic Flop and Publicist Exodus

Timestamps: [04:55]–[10:35]

• The Mic Incident:
  At a recent book event, Meghan Markle took control of a friend’s microphone in an awkward, controlling move mid-panel. Maureen and Kinsey dissect this as keen evidence of Meghan’s much-rumored "control freak" tendencies.

  "What we're seeing here on full display is this control freak nature that we hear so much about."
  —Kinsey Schofield [06:36]

• Publicist Turnover:
  News breaks that Meghan has lost her 10th publicist in five years, with this latest leaving after as little as three months. Meghan’s camp pushes a "temporary hire" narrative, which Maureen and Kinsey both mock as a weak cover.

  "Netflix. I'm sorry, you don't leave Netflix for a temporary job with Harry and Meghan."
  —Maureen Callahan [09:38]

  They connect the dots between Meghan’s high turnover and the broader perception of unmanageable celebrity privilege.

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2. Prince Andrew, Fergie, and The Ghosts of Royal Future

Timestamps: [10:35]–[17:06]

• Royal Family Meltdown:
  Callahan details a Daily Mail exposé about Prince Andrew, Duchess Fergie’s loss of royal perks, and the emotional, reputational fallout:

  "These are middle-aged women. Jesus, get your shit together."
  —Maureen Callahan [10:29]

• Fergie’s Title and Parallels to Meghan:
  Kinsey notes the eerie similarities between Sarah Ferguson’s and Meghan Markle's post-royal careers, from QVC hustling to children’s books.

  "Fergie created a reality show. Megan has recreated the QVC fame... They are identical."
  —Kinsey Schofield [16:09]

• Analysis of Future:
  Both hosts predict this is Meghan (& Harry)’s likely trajectory—grubby, peripheral, and forever yearning for a lost spotlight.

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3. Celebrity Fashion Absurdity & The Terminal Decline of High Fashion

Timestamps: [19:18]–[28:24]

• The Row’s Sample Sale:
  Maureen mocks the cult-like devotion of New York elite who line up (or pay others to) for $2,000 “basics” that look indistinguishable from Uniqlo. They review a fashion influencer’s haul with open hilarity:

  "To the naked eye, she may as well have gotten these at Uniqlo. I'm sorry, I'm sorry."
  —Maureen Callahan [20:45]

  "They're giving payless."
  —Kinsey Schofield [21:04]

• Celebrity Campaigns Lacking Style:
  John Malkovich (JW Anderson), described as "looking ridiculous" and "like Charlie Brown," and Pam Anderson (styled for Miu Miu), whose “authenticity” is interpreted as either mockery of working-class folks or Pamela rebelling against her sex-symbol past.

  "They are laughing at him... and they're laughing at the consumer who's gonna go spend a ton of money on this garbage."
  —Maureen Callahan [24:57]

  "She’s got like a red face... you can tell they let her stomach, like, they show the little pooch in her stomach... I feel like they're making fun of working Class people with this."
  —Maureen [26:45]

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4. Nepo Babies & Lackluster Celebrity Offspring

Timestamps: [28:24]–[31:47]

• Apple Martin’s Singing Attempt:
  Maureen plays two versions—one polished, one raw—and slams Apple (daughter of Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin) for having opportunity without talent or work ethic.

  "She’s got to show us that she’s earned it and deserves it, and she’s got to be really good."
  —Kinsey Schofield [31:37]

  "She's terrible. She's empirically, objectively terrible. She cannot sing, and she's out there acting like she's Debbie Harry."
  —Maureen Callahan [31:47]

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5. Lori Loughlin’s Marriage Meltdown & Redemption Tour

Timestamps: [31:47]–[33:39]

• Loughlin faces reported betrayal by her husband and attempts to save face. Kinsey wonders if her redemption is aiming at more Hallmark movies.

  "Is she on some sort of redemption tour right now? And what's the ultimate objective? Is it a few more Hallmark movies?"
  —Kinsey Schofield [33:35]

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6. Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos: Morning Show on the Rocks

Timestamps: [33:39]–[37:08]

• Maureen and Kinsey analyze a segment where Ripa and Consuelos squabble over “airport divorce” live on air—a spat that grows awkward, exposing cracks in the marriage beneath relentless peppiness.

  "I felt like the whole back and forth was mean spirited... you hear the laughs get lower and lower because they're like, wait, are we seeing something we're not supposed to be witnessing?"
  —Kinsey [36:11]

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7. Cheryl Hines, RFK Jr., and Marital Delusion

Timestamps: [37:08]–[39:54]

• Discussion of Cheryl Hines's "mean girl" vibes and refusal to confront husband RFK Jr.’s history of infidelity and scandal. Hosts debate whether sympathy for her is justified.

  "She goes to Bobby. I've seen the sex diaries. The serial liar who has been with hundreds of women… she goes to him for the truth. Of course. Who better?"
  —Maureen [38:33]

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8. Tribute: Martha Moxley and Her Mother Dorothy

Timestamps: [43:56]–[53:45]

• Maureen offers a moving personal account of time spent with Dorothy Moxley, Martha’s mother, and how Dorothy kept Martha’s memory alive through tireless advocacy. Details include handling evidence from Martha's murder and reflections on the toll this tragedy took on the Moxley family.

  "I put that golf club out of the box and I put it across the table where I was seated...that was the most sacred object I came across while that I ever really interfaced with."
  —Maureen [45:55]

• Dorothy’s profound strength and the 50-year ripple effect of Martha’s murder are honored with rare empathy.

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9. Listener Feedback & Cultural Notes

Timestamps: [53:45]–[63:59]

• Fun, spirited responses to listener questions about the show’s name, set design, and ongoing cultural "wood chipper" nominations.

• Dunks on George Clooney’s self-importance and Kay Fed’s tell-all book about Britney Spears.

  "If either one of these people really gave a shit about those kids, they would keep their mouth shut."
  —Maureen [63:13]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Meghan Markle:
  "She never knows how to behave properly, deflect, and be like, 'I'm here to celebrate my girlfriend.'"
  —Kinsey [06:42]

• On basic high fashion:
  "How have people gotten so brainwashed that they would sleep online in fall cold weather to get into a sample sale of basic bitchery like that?"
  —Maureen [22:42]

• On Apple Martin’s career:
  "These opportunities might be given to you more easily because of who your mommy and daddy are, but the only way you're going to survive is through hard work and sincere talent."
  —Kinsey [31:35]

• On Kelly and Mark:
  "I don't want to watch these two people that are overpaid and underappreciative of the situation they're in go at each other's throats."
  —Kinsey [37:08]

• On cultural offenders:
  "We gotta keep him alive until the Nerve Awards first annual."
  —Listener Nicole on George Clooney [62:10]

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Notable Timestamps

• Meghan Markle mic flop: [05:48]–[09:09]
• Publicist exit: [09:09]–[10:29]
• Prince Andrew family drama: [10:29]–[14:58]
• The Row sample sale & fashion commentary: [19:18]–[25:35]
• John Malkovich & Pam Anderson campaigns: [25:35]–[28:24]
• Apple Martin/Nepo babies: [28:24]–[31:47]
• Lori Loughlin: [31:47]–[33:39]
• Kelly Ripa & Mark Consuelos: [33:39]–[37:08]
• Cheryl Hines & RFK Jr.: [37:08]–[39:54]
• Martha Moxley tribute: [43:56]–[53:45]
• Listener mail & feedback: [53:45]–[63:59]

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Tone & Style

Maureen Callahan and Kinsey Schofield fuse sharp pop-cultural skepticism with biting humor, insider knowledge, and occasional moments of vulnerability and empathy—especially with cases like Martha and Dorothy Moxley. Observations are spiked with sarcasm but anchored by an insistence on basic decency and accountability.

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode of "The Nerve" is a tour de force of incisive, unfiltered commentary on royal and celebrity scandals, fashion world absurdity, and pop culture, with an impactful segment that honors real-life tragedy and resilience. Expect satire, unapologetic hot takes, and genuine heart.

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Transcript

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Hello and welcome. Welcome to the Nerve at Night. I am your host Maureen Callahan. And today we have such a great mix of stuff for you. We have a royals update with Kinsey Schofield. It is full of meltdowns. Full of them. Plus Meghan Markle is going to get a look at her imminent future and other moments that she gave us over the weekend and into Monday and Tuesday. Then we're going to dip into more fashion world ridiculousness with plenty of, plenty of evidence that the patient being high fashion, luxury fashion is terminal. And we have some celebrity spokespeople who really should have known better. But honestly, should they? I don't know. As we're learning, most of them are not very bright, they're not very sophisticated. We've also got some celebrity couples whose marriages are fraying before our very eyes. They are shoving this in front of our faces and remember this when they inevitably ask for privacy at this most difficult time. No. And then we've got a tribute. We've got a tribute to Martha Moxley and her mother Dorothy, to. Well, Martha was a teenager when she died. Her mom just died less than a year ago. But this week is a very, very momentous week in their histories. And we're going to talk about it. And then we're going to get to some lighter stuff. Jeremy Irons and or his publicist entered the chat. We're going to talk about it. We're going to mock it as it, as it is well deserved to be. And then we've got your feedback. What do you think? Are you ready to go? Let's go. Today's show is brought to you by Oxford Natural, home of the all natural, optimum day and optimum night supplements. Are you trying to lose weight after having a baby? Prepping for your wedding or just ready to feel like yourself again? Thousands of men and women across the US and UK are already doing it with Oxford Natural. Optimum day powers you with steady energy, crushes cravings and keeps your metabolism firing all day. Optimum night helps you relax, sleep deeply, recover and keep burning fat while you rest. England's soccer legend Michael Owen lost 40 pounds and Robbie, the face of AFTV dropped over 100 pounds. It's worked for others too, with customer testimonials talking all about Oxford Naturals effectiveness. And now it is your turn. Scan the QR code or click the Link and grab 70% off your first order with code Nerve. You're practically getting it for free. No gimmicks, no needles, just results. Oxford Natural, let's get to work. All right, Kinsey Schofield of Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered. If you have not subscribed yet, please do yourself the favorite favor. Subscribe. She is here. She is joining us today from London. Kinsey, how are you?

[Kinsey Schofield]

Well, before anyone accuses me of having a facelift, it's this incredible ring light. Maureen, you look great too, by the way. You look amazing.

[Maureen Callahan]

Thank you. Thanks. Well, you know, we get a lot of troublemaker feedback and they love you with your natural eyelashes. Have you noticed this?

[Kinsey Schofield]

I. Well, you know what? Thanks to an eyelash glue allergy, they're in luck because this is, this is the path forward.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, you know, as Sam Vacnin said on Yesterday's Nerve, the universe doesn't tell us anything. But if he believed in the universe, the universe would be telling you. Kinsey natural lashes lean in.

[Kinsey Schofield]

I'm leaning in hard. Thank you. Thank you for that feedback.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, you're welcome. I always try to keep it 100 with you, as you know. Anyway, we have got to get into a lot of Meghan Markle stuff that was breaking. And when I saw this video, I thought of you immediately. Meghan Markle at this book event with somebody who is reported to be a longtime friend from college. I would imagine that those at this point are in short supply. I think everybody's jumping off the Titanic. That is one Meghan Markle. HMS Meghan Markle. Anyway, let's take a look. They were doing a reading. They were both holding regular sized microphones. We here at the Nerf hate those mini microphones. And apparently her friend's microphone holding speaking skills were not up. And again, this is the host of With Love Megan, making everyone feel welcome and warm and secure. Let's take a look.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Guys, get to meet Courtney as well. We've been friends since college.

[Maureen Callahan]

Just so you know, I have real Friends says Megan be chatting about our book. Oh, sorry, this makes me nervous. If you're listening, Megan grabbed her friend by the wrist and elevated her arm, holding the microphone up to her chin. And by the way, Megan, as she's doing this, her mouth is like a tight. It is tightly vacuum sealed. And she is grimacing. She is most displeased. And her friend is like, oh, my God, what did I do wrong? What did I do wrong? What did I do wrong? And then Megan tries to quickly recover and place her hand on her friend's back and smile as if to say, I'm just trying to help. I'm just a helper. Kinsey, what do you make of it?

[Kinsey Schofield]

That wasn't her place. Now, that's the host's place to say, oh, you know what? Real quick, microphone to your mouth so we can hear you. We want to make sure we can hear you. It was, you know, it's classic Megan. What we're seeing here on full display is this control freak nature that we hear so much about. Between that incredible Hollywood Reporter turned Vanity Fair American Hustlers piece, we see that Meghan has a real issue with not being the leader, not being in control. And this is a book or this is a party about her bestie's book. Yet we get all of these bizarre facts about Megan's life and her healing blankets and going barefoot with her bunions. And, you know, it's just she never knows how to behave properly, deflect, and be like, I'm here to celebrate my girlfriend. I'm so proud of her.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yes, all of the headlines out of this event are about Meghan Markle, not the friend, and that is the black cloud that is Meghan Markle. But, you know, for those who are still skeptical, if not outright fearful of AI, I think at the moment, AI is a friend because AI gave us this revised version of that clip. Let's take a look. If you're listening, this is Megan's friend banging her over the head and the forehead with said microphone and Megan looking like, what's happening? Why would you do such a thing? I mean, you know, to your point, Kinsey, if we want to believe that everything that goes wrong with Megan's, you know, million launches, whether it's a podcast or a Netflix show or anything, are just the result of things just not going right in general. No, no, no, no, no. We have just seen that she is, in fact, a control freak who cannot even allow her best friend a mere few seconds to adjust herself accordingly. She knows that if she's speaking. She will need to raise the microphone to. To her mouth in order to be heard. Okay, Megan, back off of People's personal space. Then this breaks. It was either Friday or over the weekend that Meghan Markle has lost her 10th publicist in five years and this one quit. The timeline is it's not certain. It's either after three months or after four months. And I believe it was likely closer to three. Kinsey and.

[Kinsey Schofield]

And suspiciously around the foot. The foot photo of Meghan Markle passing by. Princess Diana's death scene. You know, was that too much? But this is really interesting to me because Harry and Megan immediately go to the usual suspects, People magazine, Us Weekly to react to this story and to say she was only hired on a temporary basis. Yes, Netflix. I'm sorry, you don't leave Netflix for a temporary job with Harry and Meghan.

[Maureen Callahan]

As this publicist did.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah, yes.

[Maureen Callahan]

Worked on the Crown, by the way.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Who worked on the Crown? That was already a controversial hire because the Crown basically accuses Prince Philip of, you know, planning the murder of Princess Diana towards the end of that show. So it was a controversial hire for Harry and Meghan to take her on. They then claim it was a temporary position to help Megan launch, as ever. And to help me, Megan, with. With Love Megan. And if this publicist has completed her job, then I think it's pretty fair for you and I to assume that there's no With Love Season three. If this publicist is washing her hands of this? Because wouldn't you, as the publicist in. In charge of this show, stay on until the show was canceled or at.

[Maureen Callahan]

Least until we get our very, very special Christmas episode.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Blessed. Hashtag blessed.

[Maureen Callahan]

Now moving on for the moment to the only other royal who is making more headlines and bringing even if one could, greater disgrace upon the British royal family. That's one Prince Andrew. Now, per a Daily Mail exclusive dated October 24, the headline, this was such a bombshell. I just devoured this entire piece and if you haven't read it, treat yourself inside Andrew's family Summit. Colon, how Fergie wailed and melted down at title loss. Beatrice and Eugenie were blindsided and now daughter's assets face ethics check to avoid more scandal. The salient paragraphs. Prince Andrew says a royal insider hadn't consulted or briefed either Beatrice, 37. These are middle aged women. Jesus, get your shit together. Sorry for those who are offended by the Lord's name in vain, Beatrice, 37 or her 35 year old sister Eugenie, before quote being bounced into agreeing a statement last week. Renounce agreeing to a statement last week renouncing the titles given to him by his mother, the late Queen, amid chaotic scenes in the erstwhile York household. Oh, I love that. That's such an elegant dagger. The erstwhile York household, his distraught ex wife Sarah Ferguson had apparently quote gone into a meltdown when Andrew revealed she would be losing the Duchess title. Pay attention, Meghan, pay close attention. This is the ghost of Christmas Future which for the past 39 years had been such a cash cow for Sarah and she was quote wailing that he shouldn't do it, meaning allow it. But he's a eunuch now. He's fully neutered. Princess Eugenie meanwhile, who like her sister was blindsided by last week's bombshell statement, did not even attend the crisis meeting at her parents lavish home. As the Royal insider puts it, quote, the Royal Lodge summit wasn't a happy occasion and the family, once a strong unit, is fractured. Kinsey, what do you know? What can you tell us? You are our boots on the ground.

[Kinsey Schofield]

New developments. So the sun is reporting today here that Prince Andrew is willing to to leave Royal Lodge in exchange for not one but two properties on the Windsor Estate. He's saying he'll leave Royal Lodge if he can have Adelaide Cottage which is where William and Catherine are moving out of right now. They hope to move into a new place on the Windsor Estate by November 5th and they also want Harry and Megan's old Frogmore Cottage location. Now keep in mind, as I'm sure you'll recall, Prince Andrew was offered Frogmore Cottage right when they gave Harry and Megan the boot and they, they weren't trying to humiliate him, they were trying to dollars because Frogmore Cottage is in the protect already protected Windsor Estate and they felt like everybody would save some money on security. Also the man does not need to live with his ex wife in a 30 bedroom mansion.

[Maureen Callahan]

I was just going to say it's too much house for two losers like that. They're jobless, they're just knocking around all day.

[Kinsey Schofield]

They want these two homes so that Fergie can have her own place.

[Maureen Callahan]

So that Fergie needs her own hq.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yes, to, to take the corgis that when the Queen you're a, I'm a dog person. The Queen always said I do not want to out, I do not want my dogs to outlive me. So she loses her dog. What does Andrew do? He goes and buys her multiple corgi puppies. One I believe She, I. It was rumored at the time that she fell over one of them, one passed away and he went and immediately replaced that one. So, like, everybody oohs and a's over these corgis when I. I think that is exactly the opposite of what the Queen wanted. So Fergie thinks she needs an entire home for her and the Queen's corgis. This is the last thing Prince William wants. There have been protests at the house in the last 24 hours, helicopters hovering above it. This is where Prince William. He doesn't want Buckingham palace. He doesn't want to go back to Kensington Palace. He wants Windsor to be his family's home. He needs to rid it of the stain of Andrew and Fergie. And I just think he's going to continue to be a liability if he's on the property. He needs to go far, far away.

[Maureen Callahan]

This really, really, really highlights what I see as the complete loggerheads, the battle between William and Charles and why William truly needs to be listened to. He understands what a liability is. Andrew has no shame. Neither does Sarah Ferguson. They think they're in a bargaining position. They think they still have leverage. You know, Virginia D. Gifre's book just came out and we will be covering it. But he's lucky he's not behind bars. You know, he's gotta be kidding with this and he doesn't care. I actually think that this is what these two. I think this is the future for Harry and Meghan. This is the sort of grubby, grimy, disreputable future they've got in store for them. And they're sort of being told, listen, we'll take care of you quietly, perhaps not in the manner to which you believe you should be taken care of, but, you know, you'll live out your days in relative comfort. Just go away like you're just not part of us anymore publicly. And they can't accept it. They won't accept it. It's an affront to them. It's an affront to them. I mean, the last time I saw Sarah Ferguson, I think she was on qvc.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Well, that's what I thought you were going to say. Her toes were in someone's mouth.

[Maureen Callahan]

So we're talking the 80s now.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah, but yeah, I mean, if you look at Sarah Ferguson in Megan's brief time stepping away from the royal family, Meghan's no longer been a royal, you know, for five years, Megan has created a real reality show. Fergie created a reality show. Megan has recreated the QVC fame through WaveLove Megan and you know she sells products that you can buy that you.

[Maureen Callahan]

Can watch on the showfield.

[Kinsey Schofield]

She's done a sit down Oprah Winfrey interview. Megan. Megan and Harry raced to do the sit down Oprah Winfrey interview as well. Sarah Ferguson writes children's books. Megan Markle wrote the Bench. They are identical. That the the breakdown we read about Fergie losing her duchess title. Believe you me, we are going to read about the same breakdown from Meghan Markle once King William ascends to the throne again.

[Maureen Callahan]

We will be doing breaking news coverage. Kinsey and I will be dropping whatever's going on to come to you with that live coverage. It's wild, you know, because you know, Meghan thinks that she's, she's Diana Reincarnate and actually sister, you're Sarah Ferguson. You're the grubby, grimy Sarah Ferguson. By the time the average person hits age 60, they have lost and regained several hundred pounds. Doctors call it weight cycling. You may know it as yo yo dieting and half of Americans do it. If you do it enough, you're at risk of diabetes, liver damage, heart attack and stroke. Weight cycling is when you lose 10 or so pounds but then you put them back on plus a couple more, which puts tremendous strain on your organs and can lead to serious health issues. The bottom line is that most people need help to stop weight cycling. And here is a great way.

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[Maureen Callahan]

I wanted to get to some fashion world stuff with you in the wake of Our fashion mini, which, thank you, troublemakers, you really love that as much as we had fun doing it. The row, the Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen high end luxury line had a sample sale here in New York City last weekend. And people who went to this sample sale, and by which I mean, by which I mean to say like high income women, most of them hired people to sit in line to sleep online in tents the night before line wrapped around the block. Now the row sells like I'm going to say, you know, a trouser retails for like $2,000. The business of fashion headline. Why do people cue for hours for the rose sample sale? Page Six had similar coverage. I want to toss to a little bit of an influencer named Isabel Tan who went to this sample sale and then unbagged her haul on Instagram. If you are only listening to this segment, I'm going to suggest you watch this on YouTube. But when I say that these pieces are basics, that to the naked eye, she may as well have gotten these at Uniqlo. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let's take a look at Isabelle and then Kinsey, you'll tell me your thoughts.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Here is everything I got from the.

[Maureen Callahan]

Rose sample sale with a full price breakdown and sizing. Okay, I'm just gonna start my favorite shoe. It is the Sigma.

[Kinsey Schofield]

It's really beautiful.

[Maureen Callahan]

I think it's pony hair. These are hideous. These shoes are hideous.

[Kinsey Schofield]

They're giving pay less.

[Maureen Callahan]

Yeah, exactly. If you saw them payless, you walk right by my coat and also my shoes. So this year I wanted to really prioritize them how. Yeah, so she's. Whatever. She's showing them with her jeans. They don't look any better with the jeans.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Oh, God, those are hideous. Those are confused.

[Maureen Callahan]

They have such a long toe. It's like beyond witchy costume.

[Kinsey Schofield]

I want to break out.

[Maureen Callahan]

Cabaret right.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Now looking at those hideous.

[Maureen Callahan]

Oh my God, they're awful. And then this super basic hair, black. She's like, oh, they're lamb skin. They're so. I mean, I think she spent $800 on those shoes. Okay. These gold sandals. I had a pair of Sigur Morrison gold sandals that were exactly like this. Okay. All these designers, all these houses, they all rip each other off. Now we're going to get to a little bit of the clothes. Here's that trouser, here's that gray pants. Always in search of like a good black pants and they all. Oh, we're always. This is so basic. I can't even really good for winter. I really thought I was going to leave the sample. So without a coat. Oh, and this J. Okay, we're going to look at this coat really fast. This I think she got on sale for like 11, 25 bucks. She looks like.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Honestly, it looks like a uniform.

[Maureen Callahan]

Okay, we can stop. Oh, that's. Yeah. A well tailored. I mean, what is this? What is this? How have people gotten so brainwashed that they would. They would sleep online in fall cold weather to get into a sample sale of basic bitchery like that?

[Kinsey Schofield]

I could not. I mean, I have not. I don't own any pieces of the row, but I imagine if it's like some of the other lines that I did buy when I was younger, that they cater to those teeny, teeny, teeny tiny girls. And that if you're a size 8, you're like too big and you, You're. You try on the eight and it's too small for you.

[Maureen Callahan]

The normal size. If you're normal size.

[Kinsey Schofield]

Yeah, yeah. And then you try on the eight, it doesn't fit you, and you're like an eight everywhere else. And then you're. You're absolutely traumatized by the shopping experience because they cater to those teeny tiny girls. And it's kind of like the skinny bitch club. So. Yes, you're gonna spend $2,000 because you're in the skinny club and this is the way that you prov. I can't just. I mean, I'm wearing vintage Moschino. I saw it on the brand. Drescher wore it. And I got. I got one similar because I liked that episode of the Nanny. I just can't. I can't get behind this. That stuff looked too basic. Like you said, go to H and M spent, you know, spend 50 bucks on that.

[Maureen Callahan]

You could get really well made pieces at Uniqlo. I cannot differentiate. I'm sorry. And as discussed, I have a shopping problem. To the naked eye, I should be able to differentiate in tailoring, in fabric, quality, in design. I cannot. And so I want to use that to talk about two big celebrities who are now fronting major campaigns for two fashion houses. And this is as your criminal cultural prosecutor, exhibit B and C as to why high fashion is in terminal decline. We are looking at John Malkovich for J.W. anderson, and he looks ridiculous. And this image of him, like, he's like, he's posing like he thinks this is really high fashion. And this image of him on the floor in what looks like a construction workers or like a first responder's orange, like that sort of parachute pant material. Pant. And then a neon yellowish green turtleneck. And he's got one work boot off and he's holding it and he looks. I see homeless people like this on the street in New York all the time. What is this? Is this something I should be putting on my foot? Do I put it on my head? Look at him here, look at him. They are laughing at him. The photographer, the stylist. They're laughing at him, and they're laughing at the people who paid them. They're laughing at the house, and they're laughing at the consumer who's gonna go spend a ton of money on this garbage. This is John Malkovich. What's up?

[Kinsey Schofield]

I thought he looked like Charlie Brown. And the bright color. I was like, oh, he just looks like a little. He looks like Charlie Brown. I would have loved to have been in that pitch meeting and seen the names that were skipped to. To go for this higher or what? What.

[Maureen Callahan]

Who turned it down before they got to John, who said yes. Yeah.

[Kinsey Schofield]

And how was this described, like, legitimately? What was the vision? Because if that was an acid dream for me, okay, like, that was some ayahuas, like, I. I don't ever need to see that again.

[Maureen Callahan]

Now we're gonna go to Pam Anderson, who is styled, as I wrote on Instagram, like a Queens, New York, call center operative. Her hair is in the kind of hair that the fashion world would make fun of in the 80s. It looks like a mullet that's been permed with that kind of like, bang that they curl under and it cuts the forehead in half. And then we see her, like, she's. She's got like a red face. Like, her face is red and ruddy and there's no redness corrector. There's no makeup whatsoever. And the outfit itself is just terrible. It's like blue on blue on green. And you can see they're like going for quote, unquote, authenticity. This is the legacy of Terry Richardson, who was kicked out of the industry for sexually abusing models. And, like, his whole esthetic was scuzzy, scuzz, scuzz. But she's not wearing any foundation garments. You can tell they let her stomach, like, they show the little pooch in her stomach. I mean, she's a nearly 60something woman who's birthed two children. But, like, again, in the fashion world, like, you would never show that. You would airbrush it out. You would spanx her to death. And I feel like they're making fun of. Of like, working Class people with this. I really do. What do you think?

[Kinsey Schofield]

That's an interesting observation. I have been confused by a lot of Pamela Anderson's choices over and I loved that documentary. I think she did. She either did it for Hulu or Netflix. There was an interesting Pamela Anderson documentary where she went into the sex tape and how it hurt her. And I've thought for the last few years she did the Showgirl Sofia Coppola film. And she was excellent in that. She was. She was sweet in that. I love. You know, when I grew up, I was obsessed with her on Baywatch and I wonder if she resented the way that she was sexualized so much in her early career that this is an act of rebellion. A lot of what we see from her today, I think she did a little bit of makeup and glam for the Naked Gun premiere, although she did all of that. Yeah, all of that's in question. Was that a fake relationship? Whatever. But I wonder if she's trying to reject or, you know, refuse that sex symbol status that made her who she is. And by the way, she could still pull it off today. And I miss it because the woman I fell in love with and admired as a young girl, she's gone.

[Maureen Callahan]

You know, this all sort of began. I. I sort of carbon date this to when she began her platonic, one sided crush relationship with Julian Assange and began being photographed with like books, like substantial books like that she was reading. And I think that she, like so many of the Hollywood machine, conflates intelligence with having to look plain. Like, you don't. There's even a line on the current season of the Diplomat where, you know, Keri Russell's hair, like her disheveled hair is a running joke. And the Keri Russell character says it's meant to communicate that I have more important things to do than hair and makeup and not so I disagree with that. And that's a longer conversation for another time. But we have like three other cultural offenders to get to. Apple Martin. Now, on our most recent nerve, we showed Apple and we heard Apple singing. In the aftermath of that up on Instagram, up on her official Instagram, came a much more polished looking and sounding Apple performing. Now we are going to show what is clearly just my opinion, but it really is the auto tune version of Apple, quote unquote, performing live. And we're going to follow that with the real deal that we showed all of you on the last full nerve. Here we go. I'll see you in. In this. I'll take you. Okay. Now, the latter sounds like a gaggle of cats being strangled. Kinsey, what do you make of this?

[Kinsey Schofield]

This is just on top of us recently having the discussion about her becoming the face of multiple fashion brands is so infuriating to me. First of all, pick a lane. Excel in that lane, and then maybe you can open up new opportunities for yourself. I mean, this is Meghan Markle's problem, too. Like, just pick something, be the best you can possibly be at it, and then maybe you can expand to other elements of the entertainment industry. But she just starts modeling and is Nepo babied in to multiple opportunities that way. And you and I, we've discussed this in the past, but it's not like she screams Cindy Crawford.

[Maureen Callahan]

No.

[Kinsey Schofield]

And, you know, looking at her. And we know modeling, she gets in the door through her mother. And now an entertainment career. And singing, that's her father opening the door. These opportunities might be given to you more easily because of who your mommy and daddy are, but the only way you're going to survive is through hard work and sincere talent. And I question if. If we've got any of that going on here. She so nonchalant. Like, she doesn't even want it. All these opportunities. I'm on the floor announcing my. My. Whatever. My new. My new deal, whatever. I'm on the floor, like, just be good at one thing. Then we might take you seriously in the. In the future. But she's got to show us that she wants it. She's got to show us that she's earned it and deserves it, and she's got to be really good.

[Maureen Callahan]

This is bad parenting. She's terrible. She's empirically, objectively terrible. She cannot sing, and she's out there acting like she's Debbie Harry. It's not so, sister, get out of our faces. Go take some singing lessons. Come back when you're, like, American Idol worthy at best. Maybe the Voice. Now, very quickly, Lori Laughlin, America's former sweetheart. She, according to a bombshell report, or several bombshell reports, you know, her husband has left her. Her husband's cheating on her. She's shocked. These two cheated to get their kids into usc. They're Nepo babies, okay? They both did prison time. Lori Loughlin, her husband, apparently, his second space was not a man cave, but it was the strip club on Robertson called Skin. And Lori, according to these reports, actually took herself down there to interview the strippers to find out what. Oh, please, tell me what my husband could possibly be doing here. Kinsey, can one be this dumb? And this in denial.

[Kinsey Schofield]

You know, I know this, this is kind of unrelated to your question, but watching John Stamos try to defend her and say she was completely. And he recently did an interview where he was like calling her husband, like, all sorts of names, saying she was completely innocent of all of this, you know, that was interesting to me that he would put himself on the line for her and having, you know, the scandal having been so as serious as it was. Yeah, yeah. She knew exactly what she was doing. Going to a strip club. There's really only one outcome that you're going to get walking into that. Is she on some sort of redemption tour right now? And what's the ultimate objective? Is it a few more Hallmark movies? Because I'm going to be honest, I'm willing to watch those.

[Maureen Callahan]

Well, listen, Tim, the celebrity makeup artist is involved with the Hallmark channel and he's going to be hopefully reporting to us remotely next week from something very special. But that's a great point. Like her redemption tour and, oh, I'm such a poor little victim. It's like, it's like Jennifer Lopez and Jennifer Garner with Ben Affleck. What do you think your husband is doing at a strip club? Looking for some, like, really incisive geopolitical debate? No, it's a jiggle joint, you dummy. Okay, quickly, Kelly and Mark. These two. Great. Like no other. They're like enormous white teeth. They're enormous. Like, they're just ridiculous. Peppiness in the morning. Now, this marriage, I believe, has been coming apart on air since last year. And they made headlines last week with their insufferable morning show, having an argument about their airport styles, their flying styles. And again, this is real 1% stuff. But here we go.

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[Kinsey Schofield]

Okay.

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[Maureen Callahan]

Okay.

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[Maureen Callahan]

What do you mean? Like I walk fast in the airport?

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[Maureen Callahan]

Visibly angry. We've never been there less than more than an hour and 40 international flight.

[Kinsey Schofield]

They say to get to two hours, it's mean spirited. Like what a national flight?

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[Maureen Callahan]

Hour and a half. I had to get there an hour and a half before.

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[Maureen Callahan]

Are like, oh my gosh, I love.

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[Maureen Callahan]

I don't see?

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[Maureen Callahan]

But I'm like, but we're single. So Mark, who has that share because Kelly, his wife agitated for decades to get him that chair after Michael Strahan got promoted super quick after Ryan SeaCrest lasted like two years, finally they got Mark in that chair. Cuz her husband is not that talented and he's not that interesting and he got that chair and he's got this enormous effing paycheck and this cushy job. And according to Kelly, when people, average Americans see them in the airport or on the plane and say, hey, I love your show, he's like f off.

[Kinsey Schofield]

I mean that look that made him look so horrible because you know it's true too. Oh, she's saying like you are annoyed when our fans approach us. And I don't. He did not see that argument coming. And again, I felt like the whole back and forth was mean spirited. Like the audience is laughing uncomfortably at first, but you hear the laughs get lower and lower because they're like, wait, are we seeing something we're not supposed to be witnessing? This is one of those weird shows that I, I don't understand how it still on the air. Regis was the, Kathie Lee was the magic. Okay, there's Kathie Lee, then there's Regis. He's the magic. But these two are especially if they're going to continue to go down this road. Life is hard. The world is tough. I don't want to watch these two people that are overpaid and underappreciative of the situation they're in go at each other's throats. You know, I'd rather escape when I turn on the tv.

[Maureen Callahan]

Don't be foul people's mornings, you know, especially people who are held hostage. The only people watching are either at the DMV or they're stuck in the hospital. One of two things. Okay, our final, final topic. Cheryl Hines is out on her book tour and we are going to cover this book, trust me. She has been asked about the one, one of RFK Jr. S mistresses that we know of. Olivia Newsy, who always maintained it was just a digital online phone affair, never actually physical between the two of them in the same room, she's coming out with a memoir. And Cheryl, who was once the mistress when Bobby was married to Mary Richardson. Kennedy. Richardson, Kennedy. Excuse me, who I wrote about in Ask Not Cheryl doesn't like this. She's really effing bothered by this. This. Let's Take a listen to Cheryl's complaints and then Kinsey, you take it.

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[Kinsey Schofield]

Her neck.

[Maureen Callahan]

So she goes to Bobby. I've seen the sex diaries. The serial liar who has been with hundreds of women, allegedly, reportedly, she goes to him for the truth. Of course. Who better?

[Kinsey Schofield]

I'm so conflicted with Cheryl because there was a point in time where I defended her fiercely because I thought Hollywood was being so unfair, lashing out at her because of who she was married to and because of what his political associations, even his own family, lashing out at the pair, which just gave Hollywood the. The authority to then attack her for what her husband was doing. I was so angry about that. And then I read a little book called Ask not and I was horrified to discover that I think that she might be a little bit of a mean girl based on what I've read in, in your book, Apple Martin would be an apprentice.

[Maureen Callahan]

A mere apprentice. Sorry.

[Kinsey Schofield]

So, no, I love it. So that's really been, it's been a struggle for me because I used to feel sorry for her and now I see her in a situation like that and I think, is this earned? Is this karma? You know, you need to answer some tough questions.

[Maureen Callahan]

I couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't agree with you more. Kinsey, thank you for taking time out of your very busy schedule and your incipient party with King Charles to join us at the Nerve. We are so thrilled and we can't wait to hear your report once you are back stateside. Coming up, we are going to talk a little bit more about women who have had the misfortune to be ensnared by the Kennedy Klan. And we will have troublemaker feedback. Jeremy Irons and Oregon, his not very well paid publicist entered the chat last week. But first, a quick reminder. Keep your feedback coming. Email me at maureenevilmaycaremedia.com or DM me on Instagram @maureen callahanrider or at the Nerve show. Remember to subscribe to our just launched Nerve Substack. Thenerveshow.substack.com Also, we have a very exciting episode coming. My dermatologist, Dr. Jessica Weiser is going to join us and she is the real deal. She treats a lot of famous faces. She will never tell tales out of school, but she's absolutely all for talking about what really works, what doesn't, what to get, when to get it. Send us your questions. Everything you want to know about how to find a good term, about what treatments to get, what's safe, what's not, when and where to get lasers. What kind of lasers Products that you're getting fed in your algorithm. Should you be buying them? Anything and everything. Email me and I will ask Dr. Weiser for you and we will have a great conversation. We cannot wait for this. See you in a minute. Are you accidentally turning healthy fruits into unhealthy ones? It is more common than you might think. Fruit can be great for digestion, reducing bloating, and even supporting weight loss. But many Americans make one major mistake that cancels out all those benefits. Some fruits may actually harm your energy levels and digestion. World renowned heart surgeon Dr. Stephen Gundry created a video discussing three fruits to avoid and it is shocking. You can watch it [e-mail] nerve that's thehealthyfat.com nerve or go to the video link in the description below. Dr. Gundry himself lost 70 pounds and has kept it off for over 20 years using this approach. His digestive issues are gone and he says he feels better than he did in his 40s. More than 20 million people have watched his free presentation. Don't miss it. He explains exactly what to avoid and what to eat Instead. Watch it [e-mail] nerve or click the link below. It could change the way you eat and feel forever. If you could hear love, what would it sound like? Son, can we talk about your drinking? Yeah, da. I think we should Helping those closest to you think about their excessive drinking. Maybe that's what love sounds like. [e-mail] An OHA initiative before all the.

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[Maureen Callahan]

We are back. Before we get into troublemaker feedback and some lighter stuff, I wanted to take a moment to talk about Martha Moxley. This week marks the 50th anniversary of the savage beating, sexual assault and murder of Martha, who was only 15 years old, and she went out the night before Halloween, October 30th, Mischief Night. And it was the morning of October 31st, Halloween proper, that her mutilated body with her pants pulled down, was discovered on the family lawn, on her family's lawn. Now, this case made national headlines because the chief suspect, who it took decades to try in court was a Kennedy cousin named Michael Skakel. He was ultimately tried, convicted, and then his conviction was vacated with a lot of help from Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Who spent a lot of time and a lot of money pointing the finger at other suspects, none of whom held water, including one black teenage boy and a teenage boy of mixed race, who he named and who he charged with coming down to Connecticut, very wealthy, gated community in Connecticut, from the Bronx, to go caveman style, per Bobby, on Martha. Young, white, blonde Martha. Now, when I was writing and reporting Ask Not, I got in touch with her mom, Dorothy, and Dorothy had me to her beautifully appointed apartment in Summit, New Jersey, and I sat with her for hours. And Dorothy showed me the family photo album, one of them that had family photos of Martha, her brother John, her father David, and Dorothy herself, Martha's cat. You'll see some of these photos. I took photos of them with Dorothy's permission, and I'm sharing them with you now. The photos that really I found among the most poignant were the photos of Martha with her classmates on a. Her high school classmates on a field trip to Washington, D.C. and the photos that she took, you know, of the Supreme Court and these like, really famous, consequential governmental edifices. And I found them poignant because D.C. which she wound up loving, and these institutions were weaponized against her in murder, in death by the most dynastic political family this country's ever seen, and which Ask not exists to destroy once and for all. Now, after that, I went over to the courthouse and had a lot of help from the prosecutor in this case, one of the prosecutors, to view the evidence boxes in the trial. And I was put in a tiny, windowless room, and a court clerk wheeled them out to me and said, this is the most substantial stuff. And then she said, almost as an afterthought, I write about this in the back of Ask Not. Oh, she said to me, you'll probably want to see the murder weapon. And then she scampered off. And it was. I know it's sort of rote to people who work in courthouses, but it almost felt like, oh, you'd like a latte, right? I'LL go get that for you along with, you know, the murder weapon. It was so surreal. It was so surreal. And then she came back in with this, like, very slim, oblong, like, rectangular cardboard box. And inside that box was the golf club that had been used to beat and murder Martha. And I took that golf club out of the box and I put it across the table where I was seated. It was like this sort of round green table. It almost looked like kind of a cheap poker table. And that, to me, that was the most sacred object I came across while that I ever really interfaced with, aside from some of Mary Joe Capechni's personal objects and effects, which her family, too, shared with me and allowed me to look at and hold and photograph. In those boxes was also Martha's little diary, and really, really poignant. I put some of those photos up also on Instagram. None of her diary entries, but the diary itself. You just see how young she was and how full of life. I mean, it was just so colorful. The diary itself had, like, flowers on it. And, you know, Martha was such a happy, vibrant young girl, and she had every gift you could want. And one of the most poignant things, too, in the diary, when I opened it up and I was sort of going through it, there was a little cigarette burn in some of the pages. It had burned through some of the pages, and, you know, the edges of it were still there and the hole was still there. And it was clearly, you know, a young teenage girl experimenting with rebellion and smoking cigarettes. And it was just such a profound experience that I felt very fortunate. And I take the trust that the Moxley family put in me beyond seriously. On December 24, Christmas Eve of last year, Dorothy died. She had lived a very long life, and she had spent the bulk of it advocating for justice for Martha. And, you know, Michael Skakel, again, his conviction was vacated, but when he was finally brought to trial, before any of that, when it began, Dorothy was in court every day. And at the beginning of the trial, Michael Skakel got in her face, the bereaved mother's face, and said to her, you got the wrong guy. That would disabuse me of somebody's guilt. Just my opinion. I know his conviction was vacated. And I brought up those evidence boxes because the other thing the court clerk told me to my shock, was that I had gotten there just in time, and I was going to be the last person to ever lay eyes or hands on any of that evidence. Because in the wake of the vacation of that verdict, those boxes were going to be sealed up forever, and not another historian or journalist or fact finder would ever be able to look at them. So I was contacted by some people close to Martha, some really her friends, who have also kept the flame lit all these years after Dorothy died. And they said, you know, her memorial is in New Jersey if you'd like to come. I said, please ask Martha's brother John if it's okay. I do not want to intrude. John said, it was okay. I went. I sat in the back, and then I went to the luncheon afterward. And it was just after. Afterward. Lovely. Sorry. It was just lovely. I'm sorry. I'm a little. Anyway, and I just wanted to read a little bit from the memorial service which was held in April of this year for Dorothy Moxley. And again, just an incredible woman. Dorothy's life was forever changed by the tragic loss of her daughter, Martha Moxley, who was murdered in 1975 at the age of 15 in Greenwich, Connecticut. For decades, Dorothy fought tirelessly for justice, never wavering in her pursuit of the truth. Her determination played a critical role in keeping Martha's case in the public eye, ultimately leading to the conviction of Michael Skakel in 2002, a ruling that was later overturned. Throughout the legal battles, Dorothy remained a steadfast advocate, using her voice to speak for victims and their families. And on my way out of Dorothy's apartment, which was filled with art, two major huge portraits. One of Martha as a schoolgirl and one of Martha and John with their dog. She showed me her laundry room, which was right near the front door. And tucked in, there was a childhood drawing that Martha had done. And it just struck me what she lived with and how she kept Martha alive with her. And I didn't think it was a coincidence that Dorothy, who was a Christian, died on Christmas Eve. And I think if ever two people were at rest with each other, it's Dorothy and Martha Moxley and her beloved father, David, who died not long after Martha did. He could never speak about Martha after the murder, and he died in bed of a heart attack at a very young age. And when I asked Dorothy about that, she said she believed the murder of Martha killed David. And so I just. I'm keeping Martha's memory and Dorothy's memory very close this week. Okay, now on to some lighter stuff. Troublemakers number one. We have uncovered more proof that there is definitely a faction of secret troublemakers over at the New York Times. I was on the train on my way into the city last week, and I was reading The Times. And in both the a. The main news section and then in the art section, I came across two headlines that employed nerve. This is the third time, by the way, that since the nerve has launched, the New York Times has used nerve or nervy in a headline. This headline, trump's wrecking ball strikes a nerve. And then in coverage of an exhibit at the Hammer Museum. At Hammer Museum, a vision lacks nerve. We see you guys. We see you. It's cool. Okay, now, Jeremy Irons, you know, we ran that clip of him that showed up in my algorithm where he was being interviewed, and he said that. He very confidently said, even when challenged, no, no, no, no, no. Incest is best. I'm paraphrasing. When it's between a father and a son, because it's really not that bad. Because male sex, man on man sex, does not lead to procreation. Hence incest isn that big of a deal. And plus, you get tax benefits. Okay, Couldn't make it up. Now, Jeremy Irons and. Or a publicist that he does not pay well or pay much attention to entered the chat because this. This comment got plugged in to almost after every troublemaker was like, this is disgusting. Jeremy Irons is a moron. What the actual f. You know what you would expect? This. This thing showed up verbatim after every single one. I'm only gonna read a little bit of it. The Jeremy Irons interview was taken out of context. Colon. He was asked if he was in favor of gay marriage. He seemed to be against it, but didn't want to say it outright and simply asked how marriage should be defined. When the interviewer insist, insisted, saying that marriage is among two adults who love each other. Irons asked. Irons asked if you're like, on and on and on and on and on and on and on. A lot of throat clearing. I had an editor once who would say, there's a lot of throat clearing in this piece. Like, slash those four graphs and get to the point. Jeremy, you're a moron. And if you would like some reputational rehab, I think you need to find a higher level publicist. Okay, get with it, my man. Get with it. Okay, now on to your emails. This is from troublemaker Christina, Connecticut. Hi, Maureen and team. I enjoy watching your videos on YouTube and I'm wondering if you could tell me about the story behind the Nerve in particular. Who came up with the name the Nerve? I did. And it was really one of those things where when I hit it, I was like, that's it. Multiple meanings we love it. Two, what is the significance of that red blotch print in the background of the nerve logo? It's just, you know what? You could consider it a blood drop. You could consider it a blood drop, you know, us leaching the blood, taking our pound of flesh from our many cultural offenders. But really I think it's just sort of. We came up, excuse me. We came up with the idea that we wanted the color scheme to be like a tabloid red, you know, and that it feels like an ink blot, but it's in red. It's in tabloid red. And thirdly, while watching your videos, there is a dark gray colored object that looks like. She calls it like a jets inside boob on the right side of the screen. What is that? And when I am shooting in East Hampton from that studio out there, I have this hanging fireplace and I love it. It's called a cocoon. You can find it. I think I found mine on Houzz, that website. H O U Z Z. It's a hanging fireplace. It runs on denatured alcohol. So it's smokeless, it's ventless. You could put it in any room. And it. You light a fire in this beautiful Jetsons looking hanging fireplace and it throws a lot of nice heat. I love them. Okay. Dear Maureen, sitting here with my husband watching the mini and his first response to the photo of the Rolling Royals logo. She means one Meghan Markle, the Longchamp bag bag, which was logoed with ds. Her husband says that stands for dumb shit. Danette, your husband is an honorary troublemaker. So happy by the way you talked about the opening music to the morning show. It is horrible. It is horrible and the vocals are horrible and the lyrics are horrible. And I don't know what they mean. I don't know what they have to do with morning television. Can't listen to it. Danette says the show is trash, but we watch it anyway. And that came back to fly at me again too. It feels very metaphorical. Dear Maureen, when you have the body language expert on that is our Hal Mark and he's coming back soon. It's like you have been given a superpower you can't believe. And I think by you she means the collective you like. Yes. He's helping us all read people and situations in microscopic detail. We love it. Mark coming back soon. Okay. I would love to see a takedown of George Clooney. First, for thinking he has the right to decide who we should vote for. Second, for his recent comments on the Louvre heist. I Didn't see them, but I'll take your word. Troublemaker Nicole Clooney, per Nicole said he was proud of the job and would love to be part of it. Stealing precious artifacts from a museum is not the same as robbing a jewelry store. Nor is it the same as shooting fictional movies such as the Ocean's Heist movies. And by the By George was named by Virginia Giuffre in her posthumous memoir as someone who had sex with Ghislaine Maxwell and who I believe reportedly allegedly she had sex with as well. Virginia Giuffre. I have the memoir. We will be covering it. Clooney back to Nicole just encouraged the next attempt at all locations all over the world who don't have the resources the Louvre has. He deserves the wood chipper. We gotta keep him alive until the Nerve Awards first annual. And finally. Hi, Maureen. Kayfed's book on Brittany is out. He says it's a last ditch effort to get her help. In the meantime, the child support stopped a year ago. I would love to hear your take on the situation. And if anyone needs to go to the wood chipper, listen, K Fed is attempting some reputational rehab and he is attempting to line his pockets as discussed. The child support is done. I'm sure whatever spousal support support there was is done. Now, the pro K Fed line is that, hey, at least he's like a standup guy. He raised those kids. He stayed out of the spotlight, kept his mouth shut until now. If either one of these people really gave a shit about those kids, they would keep their mouth shut. If I am the judge in this scenario, okay? Now I'm moving my role from criminal cultural prosecutor to the judge. Okay? This is biblical stuff. This is like split the baby stuff. You know, the biblical story of the two mothers who claim the baby is theirs and they're fighting and fighting and they cannot come to an agreement. And the judge says, you know what? We're gonna split the baby. We're gonna cut the baby in half, literally. You take one half, you take the other. And one of the women says, no, no, no, no, no, give the baby to her. And the judge immediately knows. The woman who said, give the baby to her, don't split the baby is the real mother. A real parent who really cares about the emotional, psychological, reputational health of their children, who is a mother who has been melting down in public for their entire lives would not be spilling. And I'm not even going to repeat the stuff he's spilling. If you want to go look, it up. Go look it up. Would not be spilling these things in the pages of a book. Now, we all know now these kids have no privacy. This will follow them everywhere they go. So nice job, Kay Fed. I say save your money. I say don't line this guy's pockets. That's it. That does it for this week's edition of the Nerve at night, sadly. But we will be back again on Friday for our very special Halloween Nerve. It is a fully themed show and we have got great stuff planned. We've got some real, real paranormal experiences. We've got the story of a child who, well before the Internet, but in 1980s America reported seeing people who were playing with her who nobody else could see. Fascinating. Deep dive. We've got your stories of the paranormal and unexplained. And then on Saturday, we've got an All Souls mini. And that's gonna be incredible. That's going to be incredible. I'll tell you a little bit more about that on the Halloween episode. If you haven't already, please check out our substack for all the stuff we can't fit in the show. It's over at thenerveshow.substack.com Be sure to subscribe to that. And you've got your nerve merch. Grab something for yourself. Pick something up for a fellow troublemaker or a troublemaker you're trying to entice over to our side of the street at shop the nerve.com and we will see you back here on Halloween at the Nerve where you will never guess what we're about to say next.

[Nikki and Bri]

Hey, everyone, it's Nikki and Bri, and we're here to let you know that we have a podcast, the Nikki and Bri Show. Yes, and we've got new episodes every Monday and Thursday day. We're serving up real deal conversations that go beyond the cameras. Think motherhood confessions, sisterhood vibes, boss business energy and TV life tea. Need a laugh? We got you craving inspo. We got inspiration and affirmations on deck. Want a little cry or a big Heck yes. That's our jam. Whether we're breaking down pop culture, sharing parenting wins or fails, unpacking personal growth, or just riffing on everyday chaos, nothing is off limits. Plus, we welcome incredible guests, play our favorite games, and do what only sisters can. Keep it 100 while raising a glass together. So pop a bottle, hit play and come hang with us. Listen to the Nicki and Bri show wherever you get your podcast.

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