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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
Prince Harry's DISASTROUS U.K. Return, Justin Baldoni's Viral Video Statement, and a Subdued Stephen Colbert
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Maureen Callahan breaks down the biggest celebrity stories of the week, including Prince Harry's disastrous trip to the U.K., reports of Stephen Colbert feeling lost and struggling without his show, Luke Wilson introducing his newborn baby with his much younger girlfriend at a press event, the growing list of complaints from disgruntled guests at Taylor Swift's wedding, and Justin Baldoni's first public statement since his legal battle with Blake Lively began. Maureen also tackles a new stack of Troublemaker feedback before being joined by royal biographer Lady Colin Campbell to unpack the latest royal drama, Prince Harry's Daily Mail lawsuit defeat, his reported flirtation with a journalist, and more. Lady Colin Campbell: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyColinCampbellYouTube Cowboy Colostrum: Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code MAUREEN at https://www.cowboycolostrum.com/maureen Wild Alaskan Company: Get $35 off your first box of wild-caught, sustainable seafood—delivered right t...
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These people.
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Maureen Callahan
Indeed these people. Hello and welcome to your Friday edition of the Nerve. I am your host Maureen Callahan. It's another banger for you today. That cold open was an excerpt from none other than South Park's legendary Worldwide Privacy Tour episode in which Harry and Meghan were lampooned as the attention grabby, pathetic, needy, insufferable hypocrites they are. And Harry just got a big black eye. This week we are going to be talking about all about it. We've also got your Friday celebrity wrap up all the stuff that we weren't able to get to during the week here at the Nerve. Friday mornings, this is it. We've got the latest on a talk show, Blow Hard who cannot believe that the culture has moved on without him, cannot believe that the earth still spins on its axis and and yet it does. It was a big deal when he was around and now nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares. You know, it's like when somebody dies. Like not to be crass but like it's often shocking and then you acclimate to it. Okay, now more grievance emerging from Taylor and Travis. We have my colleague at the Daily Mail, Allison Boshoff, wrote an incredible story about what really went on behind closed doors at Madison Square Garden. And what Taylor's A list guests such as Julia Roberts and Steven Spielberg and Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. I'm not putting it in any of their specific mouths, but the consensus among the A list cohort seems to be that wedding was, was a cheap, tacky clusterfuck. And we've got specifics. Then we've got a fading male star who has impregnated someone who is less or more, how would you say it? Half his age. Half his age. So we're going to comment on it in the way that the US Weeklys and People magazines and ETS of the world will not. It is our real talk about fake people and that's just part of it. Okay, Our favorite royal commentator commenter, insightful dialed in expert is joining us later in the show to tell the real story about what's behind Prince Harry's disaster of a return to the uk. He posited it through. Posited it, excuse me, through his official office. It was going to be a victory lap. We were going to be making up with King Charles. He was going to see the grandchildren. Megan was going to come. The olive branch was going to be received, accepted and extended all the way across the ocean. Not so, because if anybody can up anything, it's Harry. It's Harry, that loser. Okay, it is time to ask, are you ready? Are you ready? Let's go. Now that summer is here, are you looking to make a change that will have you feeling maybe less bloated, more energized and more confident? Try adding cowboy colostrum to your daily routine. It can help improve digestion, your skin to look clearer and your hair to look fuller. What's great about cowboy colostrum is the quality. It is sourced entirely from American grass fed cows. And its true first day whole colostrum is packed with bioactives, immunoglobulins and growth factors. No fillers, no artificial junk, just real ingredients. And they only collect the surplus after calves get what they need first. You can mix their vanilla flavor into your coffee. In the morning, the strawberry flavor tastes exactly like a smoothie. And their results are not just anecdotal cowboys. Clinical study found 83% of participants reported improved gut health, 79% experienced less bloating and 62% noticed fuller, thicker hair. For a limited time, nerve listeners get up to 25% off your entire order. Just head to cowboycolostrum.com Maureen and use code MAUREEN at checkout. That's 25% off when you use code MAUREEN@cowboycolostrum.com Maureen we begin our celebrity wrap up with Prince Harry. And his visit to London was supposed to be something of a homecoming. The beginning of the beginning, the beginning of the end of this feud that truly is Harry and Meghan's doing. My opinion, just my opinion. Now this was, as we discussed at the top of the show in the intro, meant to be his victory lap. It's become a funeral pyre. And you know, Harry now has a lot in common with psycho arsonist Ryan Reynolds. I, I will have to move these two out of the woodshed. Out of the woodshed. They are clear fire hazards. They burn everything to the ground. I think we're going to have to construct a woodshed that is truly made out of concrete. You know, something that, you know, stone, something that really is fire resistant because there, there is nothing this guy won't burn to the ground. It's like, it's like Megan hands him the lighter fluid and the implement to spark the fire and then she just goes, goes all the way off, off site, like she has nothing to do with it. If you notice, by the way, we've been told the reports are that Megan is with the children at their other home in Portugal and that she has made the last minute calculation not to join her husband, this loser, because when things don't go well, she tends to disappear. And so by the way, Harry was also throwing a fit that he couldn't possibly bring his wife and children to London without a royal detail, royal security. But as far as we know, they're in Portugal and they're fine without it. Square that. Circle the times. Harry, the Duke of Hazzard. This was published July 8, the UK Times by Kate Mansey. The readout with a thrashing in court. I love that word, thrashing. And a disastrous visit to the uk. Kate Manzi examines where this leaves the Duke's plans to present himself as a moral crusader. I actually would take a little bit of umbrage with that phrasing. Harry's been positioning himself as a moral crusader ever since Megxit. Ever since. Okay, Kate's piece begins. This is, this is Day of the the verdict coming down. That is a complete refutation and dismissal of every single claim. Prince Harry and his, his cohort. He was involved in this lawsuit with Elton John, Hugh Grant and others. The judge basically Threw it out and said it's trash. Some in substance, it's trash and you're trash for bringing it and taking up all of our time and hurt feelings do not equate to legal action, you dummy. Kate's piece begins. Prince Harry was half an hour early. My aside. He's usually late. He's usually late. Half an hour early, I continue. As a discussion about his Invictus Games tournament at Chatham House in London got underway, the Duke of Sussex was distracted, glancing down at his lap to check a phone or tablet of some sort. It was hard to discern what exactly, because the press who had been invited to report on Harry's One Year to Go event for the tournament. This is how desperate and pathetic Harry is. He's holding an event a year out from act, the actual event, to announce the event is happening one year from now. We know. You just said it in a press release. We know it. Why do you have to hold a presser? What? This is how much attention this person needs, okay? The press who had been invited to give Harry some free publicity had been relegated, Kate writes, to seats at the back of the room. See what I mean? Just bring a Bic lighter for him. They'll just torch the place. At 2pm Kate writes. Phones started to vibrate around the room with the breaking news that Harry had comprehensively. Whoops, sorry, comprehensively lost his 50 million dollar court battle against the publishers of the Daily Mail. Full disclosure, where I call him twice a week. Harry's face flushed red, Kate writes, and he fidgeted awkwardly with his tie, an accessory that isn't a regular feature of his wardrobe when he's back home in California. Devastating line. Back home in California. He is not back home on his native London soil. No, no, no, no, no. That's a little shift. Nice work, Kate. Back home in California. Moments later, she writes, when he got up on stage, one onlooker said that the prince looked, quote, crushed and quote, like he might be about to cry. Bullies can always dish it out. They can't take it. They crumble, they cry, they whine, they marinate in self pity and victimhood. Always the way. Now, my colleague at the Daily Mail, Charlotte Griffiths. I've got two major stories from these incredible colleagues of mine over at the Daily Mail. First, Charlotte Griffiths wrote an astounding first person piece about Prince Harry befriending her years ago, full well, knowing that she was a journalist who worked for the Mail. So when. When these two whine, whinge, moan and throw temper tantrums in the public square that the press is racist and seeks only to assail them and make them look terrible and destroy their reputations. Just remember this. Prince Harry knew Charlotte was a journalist working for the Mail and he actively sought to befriend her. And we're going to talk to Lady C about why that might have been because I don't think it was innocent. This is a male plus exclusive. Charlotte's piece, the headline, Prince Harry and Me A Small White Pill, Naughtiness and why I wish I could erase his friendship from my memory. Published on July 8, 2026. Now I'm going to set the table. It's a Friday in December 2011 and Charlotte, who's about 27 and she's still a cub reporter at the Mail, she has been invited via mutual friends to a shooting weekend with Prince Harry and his friends at a 4,000 acre estate in Hampshire. She is not of this world. She is not posh. She writes about choosing an H and M dress that she's going to wear to this dinner and feeling self conscious about it. And she notes that Harry's probably going to note that she's wearing, you know, like a cotton poly blend at best. So what? So she, she's surprised. It's implied that at this dinner she's seated right next to Harry. And what does Harry, by the way? He and Meghan, Be kind, be kind. What does he do to her? I'm going to write, I'm going to read rather what Charlotte wrote Harry did to her. He's never met this girl before. Okay, Never met her before. She writes, he decided to kick start our relationship by subjecting me to, to a little test. From his pocket he removed a small white pill. Then he held it up to my face, popped it onto my tongue and said with a smile. She quotes him here. Now I know I can trust you. This goes beyond entitlement. This is somebody who has behaved this boorishly and this recklessly, just my opinion many a time before, and whose friends, who come from very posh, privileged circumstances themselves, nonetheless feel cowed by this beta royal of the blood who thinks it's fun to potentially drug a stranger at a party as a test. Because in Charlotte's recounting, not one person stood up and said, harry, don't do that. Charlotte spit that out. Whether or not it was a, a hard drug or, you know, a placebo, I doubt it's the latter. We're going to talk to Lady C about why she thinks it was a hard drug. He's An Harry is an asshole and his wife is no better. And we at the Nerve cannot wait for them to continue their worldwide publicity tour in which they seek to explain to us over and over why they're so great and the media is so terrible. The nerves, asteroid. It's coming right at you two. You fucking fuck with losers. Now moving on to another one. Stephen Colbert, as predicted on the Nerve, when Stephen Colbert was having his months long sayonara to himself and the likes of John Lithgow were coming on his show and reading original poetry to what a noble sort Stephen was and braying on about how only Stephen could save democracy. Again, we're apolitical here at the Nerf, but that's just what the discussion was. And Stephen would often stand there on stage with his nose in the air, looking down at the viewers at home and wondering how anyone in America, nay the Western world, would survive without him on his low rated, unfunny nightly talk show that was hemorrhaging millions and millions and millions of dollars that required like 200 people to mount it. You know how many people work at the Nerf? It's a fraction. It's a mere fraction. Okay? You could count it on two hands. Anyway, Stephen can't believe that the rest of us, the world, has continued on. He cannot believe that his absence from the media landscape doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. This guy posits himself as a deep thinker, as something of a theologian who has, one would assume, framed his own celebrity in the healthiest of ways. Like, if he's a true believer in Jesus Christ, he should know that, like, he's here on this earth as a mere mortal servant, you know, to do whatever God sees fit. And if God sees fit to make him a clown, he's a clown. Do you know what I'm saying?
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Dave Farenthal
No.
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Listener/Interjector
No.
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Maureen Callahan
Stephen Colbert bought into his own publicity and hype and media coverage and clearly believes he's something of a messiah himself. Because he cannot believe that the Western world hasn't stuck with him the way that a good faction of the Western world, by which I mean adherence to Christianity, stuck with Christ after he died. Like Stephen Colbert has metaphorically died. Make no mistake in the culture, he's dead. He's not around now. He'll come back with a podcast. Trust me, he hasn't gotten there yet, but he will. Our pal Rob Shooter's exclusive in his must subscribe substack, Naughty But Nice, published July 7. Stephen Colbert's heartbreak after late show acts. Friends say he's Retreated as he struggles to move on. And I quote, friends say Colbert is heartbroken, frustrated. That's anger. That's adjacent to anger, to rage. And I continue. And struggling to imagine life after spending years at the center of late night television, which no less late night legend than David Letterman says is going to die as a genre within the next 11 months. Quote, this wasn't just a job, it was his identity. One insider tells. Shit shooter scoop. Therein lies the problem. And I quote, stephen poured everything into that show. Losing it has hit him hard. End quote. The emotional toll was hard to miss when Colbert attended Taylor Swift's wedding over the weekend where guests spotted the usually upbeat comedian looking unusually subdued and miserable. Listen, his upbeat nature was predicated on people blowing smoke up his ass to keep him aloft. Now that that's that, now that that has ended, he's, you know, plummeted back to earth with a thud. As I said at the time that this show was going off the air, I hoped that his long suffering wife, clearly just my opinion, long suffering wife, had booked herself like a lengthy vacation with her best friends to like a very expensive spa out of the country so that she wouldn't have to deal with his moping around their house in New Jersey. Because, you know, that's what's going on. You know, that's what's going on. You know, I think there might be some alcohol intake that might be even more than usual. You know, just my, just my supposition. Anyway, we will come back to what really went down at Taylor's wedding, which you're not going to believe. You're going to die. I mean you'll, you'll probably believe it. But the, but the specifics are so granular that you know, these a list stars were like just. They couldn't wait to spill. They couldn't wait to spill. NDAs, the Taylor and Travis made even their mommy sign. No one's adhering to him, sister. I think this is the beginning of the end for Taylor. I do. I think the Justin Baldoni, Blake the Snake, lively psycho arsonist, Ryan Reynolds stuff that was the first real chink in her cultural armor. This wedding, this number two. And now that the nerve exists, you know, there's no telling what might happen to Taylor. You know, no telling. Anyway, we'll get to it in a moment. Now our favorite sprightly 900 year old heroine. This wound up in my Instagram feed. She was spotted. She was spotted by a photographer, by a paparazzo reading on a bench in Amaganset. New York now, number one, that's way too close to Nerve HQ if you ask me where we are out here for the summer. And, you know, some of you have noted my hair is not nearly as lush and vibrant as when my beloved Daryl is able to attend to it in New York City. You know, I'm out here in the summer swimming on my own, and I don't have hair. I don't have glam is what I'm saying. I don't have glam. So just bear with me. But my point is this. My larger point is this. Paparazzi do not roam around the east end of Long Island. They just do not. It is not done. It is not accepted. Like, it's like there are people out here, like the SJPS of the world, who are worth so much money and have so much fame and power. You know, this. This is something of a. So if these people get photographed, this is some. In substance. What I'm trying to get to is because they called the paparazzo. Okay, now we're going to look at these photos of Sarah Jessica Parker gleefully on a bench with her big fat book and her tote bags. Oh, we're just so happy. We're just so happy. These benches, she's either on the sidewalk on Main Street. Okay, the sidewalk on. Or there are benches inside what's called Amagansett Square, which is this very cute little square where there are retail shops and a spa and eateries, coffee shops. But, you know, it looks to me like she's on the street. And those benches on the street, they're not for lazing around. It's like benches in Manhattan, like, outside Central Park. You know, it's like you take. You're there to take a break. You maybe have a phone call to make. You're putting your bags down for a second while you regroup. You're waiting for somebody who's still shopping in a boutique, but you don't go there with your book and sit there. So she's looking for attention. She's looking. It's never enough attention, never enough. My favorites are when she posts reels on Instagram where she's showing us her beachfront. We never see anything of the house itself, but she's clearly on her porch and she's just doing a panoramic sweep on video of her beachfront and the ocean so that we can all, I guess, I don't know, eat ourselves up with jealousy. Because we're not Sarah Jessica Parker. We didn't create and. And push and Just like that, into the culture. We're not rolling around with Andy Cohen, you know, Amy Sedaris. I don't know. I don't really know what she's trying to prove here, but notice her husband is never in those photos with her. He wants nothing to do with this shit. Matthew Broderick. He wants something to do with it. Anyway, another report about, you know, you guys tell us, because we are thinking of doing a segment and I think you'll like it because you guys did really respond to Bell Burden, which we are going back into next week. But there. You know what? We'll do it. I don't even need to ask you. I know, I know. But, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine. They're over the July 4th weekend now. I had friends out here and their kids and dogs. And after the fireworks on July 4th, which was Saturday evening, Saturday night, 20 minutes elapsed and then there was a thunderstorm. Like, it was biblical. It was apocalyptic. It was thunder. It was a lot of lightning. It was a heavy, heavy, heavy downpour. And, you know, you don't want to be outside in. In lightning. You just don't. And there's like the vegetation on the east end of Long island is so lush and thick and it's flat out here. Okay. There is nothing in nature to protect you from heavy, like gale force winds and. And heavy storms. Like when they come in hard. They come in hard. Okay, so this wound up in my feed and I'm going to show it because this is the real Hamptons. Celebrities love to post about their version of the Hamptons, and influencers love to post about their version of the Hamptons. And this is kind of the real Hamptons. Now, Gurney's and Montauk is a long time hotspot, and Montauk is often referred to as the End.
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Listener/Interjector
The.
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Maureen Callahan
That's its nickname, the End, because it's like the end. As far as the east coast goes, I think it's the easternmost tip of the Continental or. Well, no, not the Continental. It's an island, but you know what I mean? Of the United States. Okay. Gurney's was packed that night. It was July 4th. These businesses are making a ton of money. You know, they charge like $1,000 for like a bottle of champagne. You know what I mean? It's really. It's really vulgar. But let's look at this. Look at this reel that was posted on July 8 by an account that goes. An Instagram account that goes by Sherry Paints. This is a reel from Gurney's and what you are seeing are the people on the outside begging to be let in in the storm. This is not even an accurate like, you're not seeing how to the inside of Gurney's, which is not happening. And look at that behind the glass door that who's smirking and smiling as this crowd begs to be let in. And basically they're like, you're not on the list. Somebody, a friend of mine was telling me that over in Sag harbor at Le Biblique, which is another fancy restaurant, it was the same thing that they closed their doors to people who were begging to be let in. You know, families with like kids and. And they were basically like, sorry, you're not. Do you have a reservation? Oh, you don't have a reservation. Sorry, you can't come in. You can't come in. We simply don't have room. This user writes honestly, still shocked by how Gurney's handled this. We were outside by the fireplace over July 4th weekend when it started raining. Staff security were telling people to head towards the exit. But then it started absolutely pouring. And instead of letting people inside, the glass doors were shut and security would not let anyone in. Everyone was packed under this tiny ledge, soaked, upset, yelling while they stood there watching from the inside, which did not even appear full, which made it even more confusing. People paid good money to be there that night. I also personally witnessed someone being charged $900 for a table that got rained out after about 10 minutes. I mean, what can I say? A fool and their money are soon parted. This is how it is that. So if you're not, if you're seeing other versions of the Hamptons in your social media feed, just know that is an idealized version that people like to, you know, send out to make other people feel less than or, you know, it's ridiculous. Okay, now on to Luke Wilson, who really hasn't been relevant in quite some time, but I just read that he and Wes Anderson got stuck in an elevator in L. A. They were doing some sort of anniversary screening or event for Bottle Rocket, which was Wes Anderson's debut feature. Luke Wilson, it has been announced and I guess he got caught because it doesn't seem like this was an announcement that normally gets fed to the likes of People magazine for, you know, happy wholesome coverage. Luke Wilson is 54 years old. His 24 year old girlfriend, Kendall Yates, just had his baby. She's 24, he's 54. So 30 year spread in the age difference. According to a Page Six report, Wilson and Yates have been dating since at least 20, 23, which would put her at a respectable 21 years old. I'm no moralist. I. But I. This is creepy as f. To me. Creepy as. And I honestly, I do think that guys like that who date so much younger, like, they don't really like women. They don't. They don't want a woman of their age who maybe is as successful or more successful or as smart or smarter. They really don't. They just want someone they can kind of boss around and like who are impressed perhaps with their fame and wealth. Although I would imagine that Luke's has diminished in the years since he was at his height. But, you know, my question is, what do they talk about? What is someone who began dating her when she was 21 and he was 50, 51, what do they talk about? What do they have in common? What kind of cultural references do they share? Tina Fey used to have this line. And I think it's very true that the older that male celebrities get, the younger their girlfriends and wives get, but also the less attractive they get. You know, like you can think of any really famous guy who, you know, start like, like, look at Richard Gere, who was. His first marriage was to Cindy Crawford, bombshell supermodel. Second marriage was to carry Lowell, also a former model, an actress, also beautiful in a completely different way. And now I think is married to a civilian who is much younger, but I don't think has that kind of sort of, you know, traffic stopping looks. I think there's a lot of truth to what Tina said. Okay, anyway, now to the Taylor and Travis scandalous details. What's leaked out from their wedding, despite. Actually not, I would say not despite, but I would say because of those NDAs. I think those NDAs were kind of just like catnip to people who are just going to be like you. I won't do what you tell me. You put me through this misery, this production. This wasn't a wedding. This was a production and a very poorly run one. And at the end of this, I'm going to reference something that Fran Leibovitz observed quite some time ago and that I completely subscribe to. Okay, now more real talk about fake people. My colleague over at the Mail, the Alison Boshoff, is just one of the absolute best Hollywood celebrity entertainment reporters going, okay, listen to what Allison writes. Don't listen to the Entertainment Tonights of the world or the People magazines of the world. It's Allison. It's the nerve. Now this is her banger of an exclusive. Most, if not all of the A list guests at Taylor's wedding were shocked at how tacky, cheap and uncomfortable it was. There was barely any seating, like 800 people. 900 people had to stand. Okay, this is it. By the way, Madison Square Garden holds 20,000 people. It seats 20,000 people. She's a sadist. This is my working theory of the case. She's a fucking sadist. Now before we get to that, NBA legend Charles Barkley just revealed that he too was invited to this wedding. And he said no thank you like a sane person, okay? He's been famous for a long time. He's seen a lot and he knows how this goes. And more celebrities, frankly should have more self respect and follow suit. Here is Charles on Unfiltered with Ricky Bow and Bill Colorulo. This podcast was published on July 7th. Charles, please take it away.
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Listener/Interjector
So you didn't get the invite to
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Dave Farenthal
the royal wedding at Madison Square Garden then? I did.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, you did get the invite.
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Dave Farenthal
You didn't go.
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Listener/Interjector
I don't go to weddings.
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Maureen Callahan
That's one of.
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Listener/Interjector
I don't go to weddings or funerals. But I did get an invite and I politely declined because I thought it was going to be a crap show.
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Maureen Callahan
That's the real reason Charles says I don't go to weddings or funerals. I don't really believe him there. He says I declined because I thought it was going to be a crap show. Troublemaker Charles Barkley, we salute you. Come over to the Nerve anytime you like, sir. Also, Charles, you definitely should have an intern or an assistant over at your house who can help you with your framing. You deserve much better than that. Okay, now here it is, the unglamorous reality of attending Taylor Swift's wedding revealed by disgruntled guests. Excuse me. Published July6 by Allison Bosh off in the Daily Mail. And I read guests at pop icon Taylor's July 3 wedding to football star Travis Kelce at MSG in New York have been complaining post event about the tacky and chaotic scenes inside which saw the champagne running dry really early and long lines for buffet food. It wasn't even a sit down dinner, it was a buffet. It's like if you're staying at a Hilton, a Marriott near an airport, you're lucky. You might get a buffet breakfast. Come on down for the buffets from 7 to 11. I couldn't believe that there was a buffet at the wedding of the year, said one shot guest. That felt like such a tacky move. It is. It is. Another added there were slightly chaotic scenes around the food carts. I mean, I guess that means it was a shit show per Charles, with all these amazing A listers having to stand in line. It wasn't quite what I expected. You know, Julia Roberts was there and Steven Spielberg and I might add, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise and Steven Colbert. The list goes on and on. Now it gets better. It gets better. Allison reports. That's before you get to the cringe inducing system which ranked attendees from A list to D list according to their importance to the bride. Again, this is Taylor's wedding. Travis is just some guy she's marrying the bride. Trust me when I tell you this piece was gone over with a fine tooth comb and told them when they needed to arrive. Accordingly, British supermodel Cara Delevingne, who, not for nothing just an aside, recently said that she had a quote unquote entanglement with Amber heard for quite some time. So they were sleeping together. Just so you know. Okay, carrot. Delevingne was in first in the D list contingent. So she was told to arrive at Madison Square Garden at 2:30pm a full three hours before the ceremony. So again, I think Taylor's a sadistic. She is ranking her famous friends and basically saying to them, I think less of you. I don't really care about your comfort. I don't really care about you. If you really want to come to this wedding, wedding of the century, you better roll up like four hours before. Oh, by the way. Or three hours, whatever. You're gonna have to check your phone with my security and there's not really gonna be enough seating. And you know, we are in the middle of a heat wave and you're just gonna have to deal. You're gonna have to stand around twiddling your thumbs until you find somebody who wants to talk to you. Lovely love. You know, any good host. And by the way, if you are throwing a wedding and a reception, you're essentially a party host. You're throwing a party. Any decent host knows that your number one job is the care, comfort, feeding and attending to of your guests and that your guests should leave happier than they even were when they arrived that that your event should have exceeded their expectations. Not so with Taylor Swift. Actor Bradley Cooper, Alison writes, and TV host Graham Norton were not far behind, arriving at 3:30pm so they were in the C list contingent. That's my interpretation. Taylor's best friend, Abigail Anderson, who she's known since her days in high school in Nashville, Tennessee, showed up at 4:30pm so, Allison, sorry, Abigail is in The B list contingent. You may have known Taylor since before she was really famous. And one would think be a person who is the most important to Taylor, because I think those are probably the most valuable people you could have. No, no, no, no, no. As the nerve broke the news to Abigail, I believe on Tuesday's show, Gigi Hadid is now head in charge. Okay, this thing, I would like to see this thing spoofed as like the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones because this is really what it feels like. Now, Allison writes that the most important guests, the VIPs here, arrived as instructed, closer to the time of the 5:30pm ceremony. So they didn't have to sit around and wait for very long at all. They got. They got the. They got the perfect timing. You know, this is mean. This is caddy mean bullshit. Okay, a source says Allison's reporting and I quote, it was surprisingly chaotic inside. Arrivals were staggered with people having to wait for hours with nothing to do. The cocktails only started at 4pm She's a billionaire. The cocktails only started at 4. I wouldn't be surprised if these were like cash bars. People, Allison writes, literally were twiddling their thumbs for hours. If you were in the 2:30pm time splot like Cara Delevingne slot. Excuse me, you couldn't even amuse yourself by checking your phone. You were just standing around like a lemon wondering why the hell you were forced to arrive so early. Again, Madison Square Garden, the arena itself. I'm not talking about backstage, I'm not talking about underground. The arena itself holds 20,000 people. Why on God's green earth did she need to stagger arrivals like this? It's because she can. She likes being a mean girl. News. Okay, so everyone had to give up their phones upon entry, and then they had to stand in long lines at the end of the night to collect them. TMZ reports that the theme was the wizard of Oz meets Alice in Wonderland. As the nerve has said and predicted, it was Taylor Swift's big fat Disney wedding. A source says this is Allison's piece. Quote. I know everyone was saying how it was all decked out fairy tale, garden style, so you'd never even know that this was in Madison Square Garden. But apparently this is not true. The quote, when you got inside, this is from a guest. Some of the flowers, vines and garlands were wrapped so badly around the seating that they barely camouflaged the plastic bucket stadium style seats. It was all quite ghastly and tacky. They tried to cover up that it was a wedding in a stadium and that failed. Also, there were loads of huge fake plastic trees all over the place and it just looked bizarre. Another unusual element to the wedding was this much discussed raffle. Celebrity guests were invited to win raffle tickets. So you didn't even just get handed a raffle ticket. You had to compete for a raffle ticket by playing games like mini golf, pinball and a ring toss during the post nuptial party. Are you for real? Again, this is a humiliation ritual. A humiliation ritual. Now, before we get to Justin Baldoni's bombshell video statement that he and his wife Emily dropped online late Thursday night, I want to say a couple of things. Number one, Fran Leibovitz did a couple of documentary documentaries with Martin Scorsese, who is a huge fan of hers. And one was called Pretend it's a City. And I think the other one was, that was a series, it's like a miniseries on hbo. And then the other one I think was also for hbo and I think that's more of a documentary film. I recommend both highly. I wouldn't say go see her now live. I've seen her live, I want to say, within the past few years. And she's phoning it in. She's totally phoning it in. But before she began phoning it in, you know, there, there are very few cultural commentators who were as astute and unafraid to say what they really thought as Fran. And she said this, and I think there is a lot of truth to it. She said that one of the true tolls taken by the AIDS crisis. I mean, of course there was the human carnage and the death and the illness and the despair and the paranoia and the fear and the homophobia, all of that. But one of the true tolls that AIDS took was on the culture itself. Because AIDS took from us our most sophisticated, scholarly, tasteful, well traveled gay men who really knew how to not just criticize the culture, but who elevated the arts, who elevated our esthetics as a culture and a country, and who really reinforced how important beauty really is. It's not. It's nothing superficial. It's nothing to be scoffed at. Beautiful things and experiences matter. A taste level matters. And what this monstrosity, vulgarity of a wedding says to me is that Taylor Swift does not have a single gay man in her corner like a single gay man of taste and well regard and well repute, and who knows what he's doing in her fucking corner. What do you think of that now before we get to Justin? Because the nerve Insists on Justin getting the last word in this segment. He has earned it. TMZ again. Somehow.
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How? How?
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Maureen Callahan
They're so stupid. They think we're this stupid. Okay, Blake, psycho arsonist Ryan, we're on to you, you, you, wits. We're all on to you, so just stop it, okay? Just stop it. We don't believe that TMZ just happened to randomly catch you in Lake Placid last weekend while Taylor was getting married, engaging in ostensibly wholesome activities with one of your kids. We don't. How did TMZ get exact details as to how that kid placed in a horse jumping competition? Not from the stable.
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Who.
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Maureen Callahan
You'd. You'd have those people fired if. If, If. If they divulged personal information like that? Just my opinion. It came for Blake and Ryan. They're on speed dial with tmz. TMZ also obtained photos of Blake the snake and psycho arsonist Ryan from Wednesday. Now they're in Canada, dining on the rooftop of a Mexican restaurant with two assistants in tow. Okay. Coincidentally, hours before Justin released his video. Okay, it seems that Taylor and Blake. Sorry, I conflate them in my mind. Blake and Ryan maybe got a heads up that Justin was about to open his mouth and that his wife Emily was about to open her mouth. Okay, I'm going to read the details from the TMZ report because TMZ really needs to get their together when it comes to this stuff. Stop being the handmaidens of these awful people. Okay, listen. They. They felt that this was publishable or. Or in order to keep their. Their line of communication open between psycho arsonist Ryan and his equally loathsome wife Blake. Just my opinion.
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Maureen Callahan
They dutifully are the court stenographers for these two. Okay, listen to this riveting description. Brace yourself. And I quote. Our sources say Ryan left the eatery first and walked to his vehicle parked in a lot nearby. So we need to be briefed that Ryan left the restaurant first and then went to his car, which he parked in a parking lot. Stars. They're just like us. Shortly thereafter, TMZ continues. Blake exited the restaurant with two assistants and waved goodbye to staff.
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Maureen Callahan
She's friendly to the peons. She's. It's not like at the Met Gala when she was, like, snapping at her male minions below her on the staircase. Hey, just do it like that. Just do it. All's good. I'm friendly. Blake, just do. Just leave it the alo. So she waved goodbye to staff before they went shopping in a boutique. Store.
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Dave Farenthal
Oh.
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Maureen Callahan
So after lunch they. They went to a neighboring store and browsed again. Riveting. At one point, we're told TMZ continues with this electrifying report. On the ground reporting boots on the ground. Ryan joined the trio inside the store and then they left minutes later, heading to the parking lot. I mean, is this news because Ryan didn't set fire to something? Get the out now. Justin Baldoni and his wife Emily posted to Instagram and social media on late Thursday night, I think early Friday morning. And this thing has gone viral. Viral. It's over four minutes long. We're just going to show a small segment of what they have to say. They have been put through, by the way. Not once do they mention Blake, psycho arsonist Ryan, or even Taylor Swift by name. But their timing impeccable. Impeccable. Here we go. I will say is that there have been so many.
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Dave Farenthal
Painful things that have been spoken into existence, untruthful over the last couple years and that created so much noise and we didn't want to add to the noise. So we just wanted to let the job justice system run its course.
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Maureen Callahan
We can genuinely say that we are sitting here today feeling immense gratitude for so many things and so many people and so many things that have happened to us.
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Dave Farenthal
Gratitude has saved us.
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Maureen Callahan
And I also feel that it's important
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it doesn't negate the injustice and the pain that we have also felt in the last few years. And we've had to wrestle with so many things and try to understand so many things like how could something like
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Maureen Callahan
That's, I think, the real takeaway. And it's very smart that it's Emily who says it, that they can't believe what happened to them and let alone that this injustice was, quote, disguised as a fight for women. It's not over, Blake. Not by a long shot. Not at the nerve. Coming up, troublemaker feedback. We are back in a minute. Are you ever disappointed by the seafood that you buy? Do you find yourself questioning its quality? Wild Alaskan company offers the best, best way to get wild caught. High quality seafood delivered right to your door, right on your schedule. Each box comes with individually portioned fillets that are vacuum sealed and easy to prep. Whether it's a quick weeknight meal or something a little more special. Their seafood is quick frozen fresh from the Alaskan waters, helping to lock in texture, flavor and key nutrients like omega threes. This is fish you can Trust with no GMOs, antibiotics or additives. And you're also supporting sustainable harvesting and the Alaskan fishermen behind it. My favorite, the Sockeye Salmon is lean, flavorful and a go to favorite for salmon lovers everywhere. Wild Alaskan company is so confident in what they deliver that they are offering a 100% satisfaction and money back guarantee. Try your first box risk free. Go to wildalaskan.com nerve for $35 off your first order of premium wild caught seafood. That's wildalaskan.com nerve For $35 off your first order. And thanks to wild alaskan company for sponsoring this episode Oregon Parks make an
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Maureen Callahan
We are back. Now, before we get to troublemaker feedback, a couple of editorial notes. In our initial segment, we did not get to the breaking news that Jack Antonoff, Lena Dunham's ex, who then upgraded by marrying the beautiful young actress Margaret Qualley. Well, it looks like Jack and Margaret are splitsville because Jack attended Taylor's wedding alone. The very same wedding at which Lena made the really insulting, rage filled, quote unquote joke that American football players are just straight guys engaged in gay porn reenacting gay porn. It's not verbatim, but I think I have it pretty close, so we're going to be tracking that. And also regarding Widows Bay, which is my favorite new show of, of the year of the year so far. The lead actor, Matthew Reese, who is amazing, is the first actor I believe in 30 years to secure dual acting nominations for two different shows. There was the beast in me. He was excellent in that. It's not as nearly as great as Widow's Bay, but frankly, what is. But he was excellent in it. And then of course for Widow's Bay, which again, if you haven't watched, I, I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's horror, it's comedy, it's funny, it's smart, it's original. Every actor in it is incredible, but he is the linchpin of it. If you haven't seen the Americans with Matthew Reese and Keri Russell, who are a couple in real life, absolutely watch the Americans, one of the greatest shows of the modern age. I also want to say there was something about. Oh. Oh. A lot of you have asked me about Margo's Got Money Troubles if I've watched it, what I think of it. So before this ever became a series, I got the book because it looked intriguing to me and I read only half of it. And then I really, I was just like, this book is kind of falling apart. Secondly, this is my problem. I watched the first episode. I don't know that I'll be watching any more of it. This is my problem with Margo's Got money Troubles. It's the casting. Margo's Got Money Troubles is about a young woman who is in college who is having an affair with her sad sack, married, loser writing professor. She dreams of becoming a writer. Her estranged father is a down on his luck professional wrestler. He's like aging out of it and has been for quite some time. She was raised by a single mother, so she's not a woman of means. She's not a young woman of means. Right. She decides to have this baby and the crisis is like, how is she going to support this baby? She's a, she's, she lives in the middle of nowhere. She's going to get a job on Only Fans. Like it's supposed to be comic, you know, and the book is, it's well written enough, but again, not, not well enough to finish it. Elle Fanning Plays the young woman, Margot. Michelle Pfeiffer plays her mother. These women are too expensive looking. It was my exact problem with the casting of Michelle Williams in God, the Casey Affleck movie. Marlena, can you tell me what that movie was? Oh, it was Manchester by the Sea. Manchester by the Sea. Michelle Williams was supposed to play this sort of working class, you know, heartbroken, devastated woman who had lost her child, her marriage had broken up. And you take one look at her hair color, her haircut, her eyebrows, her skin, she looks too expensive. She, you know, it's a certain type, a certain weather beaten type of woman who has been beaten down by life. And Michelle Pfeiffer, I am sorry, is far too refined. Her cheekbones, as they say, could cut glass. She, her bearing, her comportment, the way she articulates things. It was exactly the criticism she came under for when she and Al Pacino did the film version of the. It was off Broadway. I don't know if it ever made made it to Broadway. The film, the play Frankie and Johnny at the Clair de Lune which originated with or was most famous as a play. Edie Falco was Frankie. I forget. Stanley Tucci play Johnny. You know, you can't have that kind of magnetism and like otherworldly beauty and convincingly play someone who's working class. Like you can see the fake nails that Michelle Pfeiffer has. Like it used like adhesive just to put on it. Doesn't work. It's the same with Elle Fanning. You know, she's the face of like very high end design houses. I think she may be one of the faces of Chanel. You know, she, she looks too expensive and I hate, I hate when casting does this. You know who would have been better as Margot? The miscast. Misfire. That is Supergirl. That girl Millie Alcock. She has a look to her. And I mean this in just a casting sense. I'm not judging. She looks a little hard. She looks like she's like life has thrown some at her. That would have been a better casting. Okay, now on to troublemaker feedback. Just my thoughts. Okay. Hello, Team Nerve. The subject line is PRENUP3EXclamation points. Did Taylor have to sign a no messing around clause? The reporting which has not been denied as of this taping is that Taylor made Travis sign a prenup that included a around and find out clause to rival Nicole Kidman's cocaine clause for one Keith Urban. And this says that in the event that Taylor. Sorry. That Travis around on her, he has to pay her $20 million per. Per indiscretion. Now, this question came to us from many a troublemaker. What about Taylor? What if she cheats? Okay, this troublemaker named Karen asks, since when is she all virginal? Agreed. Hi, Maureen. Is it possible to get a list of all the movies and TV shows you have recommended throughout the 151 episodes of the Nerve? I'm racking my brain trying to think of a show or movie you recommended last year. We are doing it on our substack and we can begin compiling a comprehensive list. It will take some time, but in the meantime, go to substack. Subscribe. Because I always talk about weekly things that I recommend, be they products or clothes or jewelry or. Or things I'm reading, watching, listening to. Join the substack. That's a great place for it. Okay. Hi, Maureen. Vis a vis the raffle that Taylor threw, the carnival games that she encouraged her A list guests to play, this troublemaker writes, somewhere along the way, celebrity culture stopped trying to be aspirational and started trying to convince us that billionaires are, quote, just like us, except they are not. Watching a list celebrities reportedly tossing skee balls for the chance to win a Chanel handbag doesn't make them seem relatable. It makes the whole production feel oddly curated. Like every moment was being. Yes, like every moment was being engineered for future content instead of genuine celebration. Years ago, stars cultivated a little mystery. Liz and Dick come to mind. Agreed, Liz and Dick. But today, it feels like every birthday, vacation, dinner, relationship and wedding has become intellectual property waiting to be monetized. Ironically, the more access we are given, the less authentic it all feels. Could not agree with you more, troublemaker. Love to you all, Maureen, Marlena, and of course to the handsome and talented Teddy Van Halen and his little protege, Trouble. Teddy will love to hear this. Trouble is driving him nuts at the moment. Nuts. Hi, Randy. It's from Randy. Sorry. Your troublemaker in Iowa, Garth Brooks announced his new tour starts in Indianapolis next month. I wonder if he has made any pre show colonic appointments. That's a reference to another email from a troublemaker who reported that Garth Brooks just this troublemakers report had allegedly tried. No, sorry. Had allegedly figured out a way to bring himself to orgasm while getting a colonic from this troublemaker's friend who was a female and who was shocked and was like, I can't say anything. I will lose my job. There is also the online conspiracy theory theory that Garth Brooks may be a serial killer, which we really do have to get to someday. Again, just an online conspiracy theory. We are certainly at the Nerve not saying that Garth Brooks is potentially a serial killer. Headline Cocktails. Please feel free to use my name. You've got it. Troublemaker. Megan. Okay, this is a bitchy comment regarding Taylor Swift's wedding. Troublemaker. Meghan, did you just get to the Nerve? If you're going to say something bitchy, come sit by me. She and Travis never held a cocktail glass correctly when they're drinking wine or champagne. Stemware is called stemware for a reason. You hold the stem of the glassware. Yes. The thinking is that the science is that if you hold the glass itself in which the beverage is contained, your body heat alters the composition and the taste of said beverage. And so you hold the stem. Megan goes on to say that she has been in and out of the hospital since January and most recently over the July 4th holiday. We are sorry to hear that, Megan. We are rooting you on. She says that the Nerve cheers her up. We are so happy to hear it, Maureen. If indeed Jack Schlossberg is a malignant narcissist. This goes to our part of our segment on the Nerve. At night or Tuesday? Probably Tuesday, because I couldn't wait to get to it since we were off last week. Into my feed came Jack Schlossberg. Multiple photos of himself at a museum looking at artifacts behind an underglass. And the caption under Jack's images said history on full display. To which I said, that's a museum you fuck with. It's literally history on full display. It's baked into the definition of a museum. And it is the exact reason people go now. This troublemaker is not alone in positing this theory, which I like. I like Troublemaker. L says, if indeed Jack is a malignant narcissist, he was referring to himself as the history on full display. He considers himself a historical figure and was documenting himself. And the art was only a prop. I think you're right. This troublemaker also says, I too am a Jackie fan. We have this in common. You guys know how I feel about Jackie Kennedy. Onasis. I love her. It pained me to put pen to paper, but I really appreciate it. We here at the Nerve all appreciate it. Troublemaker. Our final troublemaker email for the week. Hi Maureen. I've always gotten such a narcissistic vibe from Taylor Swift. And as a mother, I had to live through those years. My daughters were fans. Sympathies, Troublemaker P Sympathies. When the ERAS tour came to town. I love this. This is the kind of parenting that I would encourage for the culture. And we're gonna do Marlena and I were talking about doing a segment about this wild piece that New York magazine ran wild and I think we should bookmark it for next week or the week after. But we will be doing it now. This troublemaker said I refuse to give her her she refused to give her daughters a dime for tickets to the ERA tour. I love it. My then 23 year old daughter even more so. She's an adult, paid her own way and went with friends. It also took her a later she writes. Took her a while to admit it, but the fakery, the talentlessness and the ick hit her all at once during that show. She still can't believe she spent all that money. Live and learn. Indeed. Live and learn. Those are some of the best lessons you'll ever make because they really stick. They really stick with you. She then goes on to write Troublemaker P that she and her daughters have been fans of the Nerf since day one and that her daughter jokingly calls me Aunt Maureen. I love it. I love it. Throughout the year that you've been doing the Nerf we have been waiting for the day cultural repeat offender of the century Taylor Swift got on your radar. She is insufferable. And thank you for calling it out and sending Tay Tay into her woodshed. ERA Troublemaker P. I can assure you this is only the beginning. It is only the beginning for Taylor. The asteroid has pivoted direction and is going straight at this is our this is our target number one. And trust me, that says a lot in this cultural landscape, don't you think? Quick reminder, keep your feedback coming. Email me at maureenvilmakeremedia.com or DM me on Instagram at Maureen Callahan, Writer or at the Nerve Show. Don't forget to tune into the Mini because there is a celebrity who's blocked me and the Nerve and Marlena and another one of our producers on social media. And that celebrity is our target on the Mini. We are sure this celebrity will be tuning in. Obviously the celebrity is watching avidly. Remember to subscribe to the Nerve substack. Support us, won't you in our mission. Go over to thenerve show.com you will see your prompt. Do it. Up next, Lady Colin Campbell is here to discuss Harry's disaster of a week in London. We will see you in a minute. It's not always obvious how serious teeth grinding can be. What a health risk it is. Many people only notice after they wake up with a sore jaw, frequent headaches or increased tooth sensitivity. So consider using Remy Custom Night Guards. Remy Night Guards are the only FDA cleared clinically tested at home Impression Kit Night Guards on the market. Not only does Remy help prevent damage from grinding, Remy also reduces jaw tension, eases facial muscle strain and even improves sleep quality, which any doctor will tell you is number one for your overall health. After you purchase, your Impression kit will arrive at your doorstep. 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Maureen Callahan
so this is a quick update as we are now taping Friday's show. We spoke to Lady C moments before this report broke and Lady C is very busy so we are going to front load her interview with this breaking news Initially reported by the Telegraph, re reported by Page Six and notably People magazine which is Megan Markle's preferred outlet. They are historically extremely friendly to Megan which means I can tell you, in my experience, just my opinion, they have a very friendly relationship. Okay, the headline Megan Markle, Prince Archie and Princess Lil Bit because they're using the royal titles will travel to the UK this week. I'm quoting from the People Magazine report. Amid days of uncertainty surrounding the Sussexes travel plans, new reports indicate that Meghan Markle, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet are expected to travel to Britain later this week. It is already later this Week. So I don't know what she's talking about. According to the Telegraph, the report continues, the Duchess of Sussex, 44, will return to her husband's homeland with the children. Megan and the children are not expected to make any public appearances, which I'm going to say. They're going to be sure that they're photographed. Just my opinion. Just my opinion. And finally, report this report says a spokesperson for the Sussexes had no comment when reached by people. Because what are we doing if we're not installing yet another cliffhanger? Everybody wants to know, what will they do? What will they do? Nobody really gives a shit. It's over for these people, okay? Their brand is chaos. Joining us now, the one and only Lady Colin Campbell. Better known to us all as Lady C, Royal biographer, New York Times bestselling author, palace insider, and someone who has never been afraid to say it, exactly how it is when it comes to the Sussexes. In fact, she wrote the actual book called Meghan Harry the Real Story. If you have not read it, treat yourself. Welcome back to the Nerve.
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Lady C. Wonderful to see you again, Maureen.
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Maureen Callahan
Now this. This has been quite the week and. And. And not one that has gone the way Prince Harry clearly imagined it would. He is in London, as promised. He was given an invitation to stay at Buckingham palace, which was later rescinded after his hithering and dithering. He. It was announced that Meghan and the children would be joining him. They are not. It was announced that Harry would be having a meeting with King Charles. As of this moment, that has not happened. But perhaps the biggest black eye of all, Lady C, losing his lawsuit against the Daily Mail. The cost is a reported $50 million. Plus, you and I are going to take a look right here at a video statement made by the editor in chief of the Daily Mail published on Tuesday, July 7th, after this verdict was handed down. And this is. This is the real irony here, what Harry's beloved mother thought of. Of the exact outlet where I call them bi weekly that he tried to destroy. Here we go.
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Listener/Interjector
The bitter irony is that his mother, Diana, likes the Mail. We were her paper. We took her side in her acrimonious breakup with Charles. She and I would speak and meet the Mail's superb royal reporter was her friend and confidant. The truth is that this trumped up action, which has cost well over £50 million and wasted a huge amount of valuable court time, should never have been brought to trial.
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Maureen Callahan
Lady C, what do you make of it?
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Well, I agree with Paul Dacre. I Mean, I've been saying this all along, you know. I know Mr. Justice Nicklin, he was the judge in my case against the Daily Mirror.
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Maureen Callahan
That's right.
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And I mean I've had lots of experience in the last 50 years ensuing very successfully all the newspapers, including Associated Newspapers, repeatedly. But Paul Daker's absolutely right. And what Paul Dagger hasn't said is that not only was he and Richard Kay, but there was also Sir David English who was the editor in chief, the whole head honcho in those days. And David English said Diana was the most brilliant PR operator he'd ever met. That if she hadn't been the Princess of Wales, she should have set up a PR operation. She had them around her little finger actually, in my opinion, to an unacceptable degree because they were much too much in favor of her. And they were not always as fair to Charles as they should have been. But the whole thing is an absolute scandal. I mean it's bad enough that Harry has done this, but Doreen Lawrence, Lady Lawrence, the black Baroness, who It's thanks to the Mail and thanks to Paul Dacre and Sir David English that her sons murderers were brought to justice and that she would turn on them the way she did just because Harry convinced her that. I mean the whole thing was they wanted to get the Daily. They wanted to get Associated Newspapers shut down.
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Maureen Callahan
They did.
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Listener/Interjector
Yeah. Hacked off. Hacked off. Which is the anti free press organization behind all of this. Elton John's a part of it, Hugh Grant's a part of it.
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Maureen Callahan
And that, that case that you were talking about with those five suspects that the Mail had named. It's no mistake that Paul Dacre is sitting in front of the front pages. He's sitting in front of the front page where the headline says the Daily Mail will name these suspects. The one in the, in the right background of that frame is a huge portrait, a blowup of Diana's face. And you're absolutely right. Diana was a brilliant mastermind. She befriended these reporters. She got her narrative always put down as, as what we call journalism. The first draft of history. What is it in Harry that remains so obstinate and so destructive? Do you think that he doesn't understand again, more bees with honey?
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Listener/Interjector
Well, first of all, he's, he's, you know, he's an idiot. That's the first. And, and he's drug addled. And you know, he's admitted that he's, that he resorts to drugs, but he is truly drug addled. His brains have such brains as he had and he never started with Any have been totally blown die all of the drugs that he has taken and continues to take.
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Maureen Callahan
How do you know, Lady C, that he is still continuing to partake in drugs?
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Listener/Interjector
Because people I know have been there when he has been availing himself of. Of the solution. Because to him it's not a problem. And that is classical addiction time. It's a solution, it's not a problem. But what is so outrageous about all of this is having lost. He has the unmitigated goal to say that the senior defamation law judge in this country, Mr. Justice Nicklin, Mr. Justice Nicklin is one of those senior judges in this country is corrupt and that it's a whitewash and that it's an establishment stitch up. And I have been told that he and Meghan have been seeing it's white privilege in action. So now he and Meghan are two black people who have been completely disadvantaged by white privilege. No wonder they needed Doreen Lawrence in the frame because she's black. I mean, the hope that. This is madness. You know, there was never a case. I said all along that because I've. Maureen, for over 50 years I've been suing the newspapers and I've never lost. And I know my way around the law in terms of litigation, reputation, unlawful news gathering. And I always said there was no case because they couldn't prove one thing. Saying I suspected or I think it might have happened is not the same thing as proof. And I said all along, I'm not a fortune teller. I never predict anything. But off my knowledge of the law, there was no way they could win. I thought of the 97 claims, Mr. Justice Nicklin might have felt obliged to throw them one or two partial or total victories on the minor things that weren't serious. But in fact he, he didn't throw them even those crumbs. As far as he's concerned, they're not deserving of any sustenance and he's giving them none.
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Maureen Callahan
What I would also like to read. I'd like to read a little bit from. To you from an incredible bombshell that was published on July 8 again in the Daily Mail. This is by Charlotte Griffiths and it was a first person essay called the Truth about the Prince and Me. And she is recounting two very among many salient points. But for our purposes, I love this detail. She, she, she does not come from Harry's world number one. Number two in her piece, she maintains that as she was invited via mutual friends to parties with Prince Harry, weekends away with Prince Harry in various Estates where they would go shooting pheasant and what have you. That her role as a journalist at the Daily Mail was always known and disclosed and that Harry himself knew. She writes, after one evening spent with this cohort of people, a Facebook messenger app on my mobile phone I'm reading pinged with a friend request from a certain quote Spike Wells. An accompanying message read it's H in case you were confused by name and picture X meaning a kiss. Now I love that because all we hear from Meghan Markle is that H is her special name for Harry, only she calls him H. And this, this little tidbit tells us that Harry was going by the self appointed nickname H years before he met Megan. Years.
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Listener/Interjector
Yes he was. And also what was very interesting in Charlotte Griffith's account is that Harry popped a very small white pill on her tongue at dinner and, and said now I can trust you. And she removed it very subtly so he wasn't aware of it. She removed it with her napkin but she didn't swallow it. And then to cover herself legally because you know what it's like in England, you have to cover yourself legally. She said she assumes it was paracetamol. Paracetamol is not small white pills, they're big white pills. And also as, because they have no coating, as soon as they touch your tongue you can tell that it's definitively paracetamol or it's not. So clearly whatever little pill he put on her tongue, even though she says it was paracetamol, it wasn't paracetamol. And Harry everybody knows has been heavily into drugs for, from his early teenage and his, his behavior shows it. I mean anybody who's had anything to do with the 12 step program, which I did because my ex husband was an alcoholic and my mother was an alcoholic and I mean Harry is a classical out of control substance abuser.
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Maureen Callahan
Whether he, he yeah, he does exhibit those behaviors. To me the most pronounced one being it's always everybody else's fault. We are never taking blame for anything. And I love that you pulled out that she leads with that. And it's her first meeting with Harry, very first and she sat next to him and she is not of this world. She writes about getting dressed in, in her H and M dress and feeling nervous about that. And he has the temerity and this is the disgustingness of the entitlement. I am sure everybody else just laughed along as he placed a drug of unknown provenance on this stranger's tongue as some sort of game of Thrones poison pill test of loyalty to this dope who was, you know, then the third in line but was about to go way, way, way down the rung. You know, the other, the other detail that I read and I thought I have to talk to Lady C about this because it is too good. How leaks actually often work, leaks often castigated by Harry and Meghan. Charlotte writes, I can now reveal that during the summer of 2025. So last summer a close advisor to Harry and Megan contacted me out of the blue, invited me to lunch at the Ivy Restaurant in London, a very high profile restaurant. She writes As a result of information given to me, given to me at that lunch meeting, I placed a series of stories in the Mail on Sunday that portrayed the couple in a positive light. This included a front page article which ran in July that Harry and Megan were attempting to rebuild their relationship with King Charles. It revolved around Liam McGuire and Meredith Mains. Harry and Meghan's USPR chiefs were about to. About to be holding clear the air talks with the monarch's age aid. Excuse me, Tobin Andre in London. I was duly tipped off about the meeting which was held at the Royal Overseas League near Clarence House. The attendees settled themselves on a balcony plainly visible from the public park below. The Mail on Sunday arranged for a photographer to capture the cozy but very embarrassing scene. In a development which speaks volumes for their integrity, quote, sources close to the Sussexes then briefed the Daily Telegraph that they were, quote, very frustrated that the pictures of this gathering had ended up in the Mail on Sunday, suggesting quite falsely that the palace was responsible for a grotesque betrayal of trust.
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Listener/Interjector
Lady C. Well, Maureen, at the time, because I knew what was going on, I blew the whistle on the whole thing. I said the whole thing was an absolute stitch up and set up and that it was a setup by Harry and Meghan and their people and that they had tipped off the the Mail on Sunday and that that's why they had a photographer there. I mean I knew the whole thing and I called chapter and verse on it. So she's simply verifying what I said at the time. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who said it because it was as obvious as the nose on your or my face what was going on. But it's typical of Harry and Meghan, they, they create these scenarios, they shaft the palace, then they spin around and say, oh, we're victims of the palace. I mean it's.
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Maureen Callahan
And the press and the press and the press.
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Listener/Interjector
Let's not forget the, the treacherous press. I mean, Harry obviously thought that Charlotte Griffiths would never open her mouth because she's married now, she has three children, she's cleaned up her act. She used to be a very. By her own account, in the period with Harry, she. They were both perpetually drunk. She's cleaned up her act. She's married happily, three children. She's now a respected journalist. And I think Harry thought, she's never going to say anything. I can trash her all I want because she's going to have the awkward problem of did they or did they not sleep together? And yes, that's the question that. That is. And even if they didn't sleep together, to what extent was it personal? And it's obvious that there was some frizzle of attraction between them or certainly from him to her. And she played along with it. Just right, her account, but.
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Maureen Callahan
Right, just her account. She writes, she writes in her defense. She writes, you know, she was in her 20s, everybody was partying. She was in this circle. It's. It's not unusual. She also writes that she, she. She was given information even back then that she never, ever reported unless she had the complete okay from any given source. She did not. She. She would not betray a confidence. And I think that you're right. Either Harry just assumed that Charlotte would never, ever tell what really went on during that time period, or he simply forgot she wasn't important enough to remember.
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Listener/Interjector
I mean, look, darling, I. Sorry. I don't think he forgot at all.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, really?
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Listener/Interjector
No, I think he calculated that she would. That she knew that questions would be asked as to whether they had slept together or not. And he calculated that she'd find it so embarrassing and she might. And it might be potentially so damaging to her career and her credit that he was basically blackmailing her. That's what he was doing. And I'm delighted that she refused to succumb to the blackmail. And, you know, she's given a very good account, by and large, of what happened.
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Maureen Callahan
I am too. I, I think she did. I think that that piece is great. If anybody hasn't read it, go read it. I, I love this piece. And what I love about it too, to your point, Lady C. Is, you know, she doesn't say this, so this could just be my interpretation. Perhaps you share it. But Harry becomes immediately overly friendly, overly flirty with this woman who is a member of the media. And not only that, is a cub reporter at the Daily Mail working for Katie Nicholl, who back then even was a big name. And A big deal. So the idea that Harry didn't know what he was doing and in fact doesn't have some of his mother in him trying to play the media kind of like it, it, it, it's, it's. You cannot believe it on its face.
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Listener/Interjector
Absolutely. And you know, I've always said people don't understand to what extent Harry and through Harry, Meghan have used the Diana playbook. I mean, they've done it in a far more flagrant and disgraceful and quite frankly, cac handed way. She was far more sophisticated. But the fact of the matter is Harry has played the media. And the irony is that everybody in the media world knew that Charlotte Griffith was basically reporting virtually word for word what Harriet wanted her to report, which did her reputation no good. So it's to her credit that she's come out and I think that she has, she has helped to preserve her reputation because I have to tell you, she was in danger of losing it because she was well known for a while to be one of Harry and Meghan's Goebbels, you know, a conduit, a mercury. So it's good that she's done what she's done. May I make a point as well?
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Maureen Callahan
Yes, please.
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Listener/Interjector
In it, in it she says that I accused her of being a drunkard. I never accused her of being a drunkard. I said to defend her that she was young and that she was caught up in a false coat and that she, by her own account was drunk and that she's cleaned up her act so. But she says that when she's complaining about the fact that, you know, she had such a hard time and she got a lot of hate. She never got any hate from me. But as a friend of mine who actually phoned and told me about this story, hence why I actually read it, she said, oh. When I said, well, why would she? She said, oh, my dear, she. You're the only name she's mentioned and she's obviously dropped your name because it's a feather in her cap.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, Lady C. You know what I love that I had no idea that you two had any personal history prior to reading that. That essay that she wrote. But your insight, as always, always beyond invaluable. Thank you for giving us your time this most momentous week for Harry and Megan. We will see you soon as ever,
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Listener/Interjector
my dear Maureen, A pleasure. God bless.
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Maureen Callahan
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