The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
Episode: Royal Family Tensions on Display, Priscilla Presley's Deception, Jimmy Kimmel's Crocodile Tears
Date: September 30, 2025
Host: Maureen Callahan
Co-host: (Possibly Teddy Van Halen)
Guests: Kinsey Schofield (royal and Elvis expert), Mark Bowden (body language expert)
Overview
On this packed return episode, Maureen Callahan dives into headline-grabbing culture and scandal—with signature skepticism and bite. The show covers:
- Allegations of deception and greed within the Presley family
- Royal family drama, including Prince Harry's fraught "reconciliation," leaks, and power struggles
- Violet Affleck’s viral UN moment as a “Nepo baby”
- A tribute to Robert Redford
- The Amy Griffin “memoir” exposé fallout
- A fascinating body language analysis of Jimmy Kimmel’s on-air “crocodile tears” and public figures including Meghan Markle and Priscilla Presley
1. Priscilla Presley: Allegations of Deception and Lawsuit Fallout
(Main segment with Kinsey Schofield)
[07:24–20:43, 80:15–90:31]
Key Points
- Priscilla Presley is accused (in a lawsuit by former business associates) of prematurely taking daughter Lisa Marie Presley off life support to retake control of the family trust and Graceland.
- Maureen reads directly from the New York Times and allegations in legal filings, focusing on the absence of a proper denial from Priscilla’s counsel.
- “That little sentence fragment is not a denial. Just, just my opinion.” – Maureen [10:26]
- Maureen reads directly from the New York Times and allegations in legal filings, focusing on the absence of a proper denial from Priscilla’s counsel.
- Maureen and Kinsey argue Priscilla has prioritized wealth and the brand over her actual family.
- “There’s a through line of greed that follows Priscilla’s story. ...It’s about preserving Priscilla’s bank account, and the collateral damage ...has never seemed to slow down.” – Kinsey [11:02]
- “She just doesn’t care that she looks like this piggy bank.” – Kinsey [15:25]
- Priscilla allegedly rushed Riley Keough, her granddaughter, into legal confrontations days after Lisa Marie’s death.
- Heartbreaking posthumous letter from Riley is highlighted as evidence of Priscilla’s character.
- “I think Riley Keough is a class act. ...Her grandmother cares about one thing and that's Elvis's corpse and running Graceland and that's it.” – Co-host [20:09]
- Heartbreaking posthumous letter from Riley is highlighted as evidence of Priscilla’s character.
- Discussion of Priscilla’s checkered past, including Lisa Marie’s molestation allegations against Priscilla’s ex and Priscilla’s alleged inaction.
- “For Priscilla to ...dismiss that as nothing...just acknowledge the fact that you were a crap mom that thrust your kid onto Scientology.” – Kinsey [15:25]
- Priscilla’s media tour is described as “ghoulish.”
- Priscilla’s contradictory stories about Lisa Marie’s final days signal, to the hosts, unreliability or worse.
- “There should be one version when you're one, but we've got multiple...” – Co-host [12:19]
- Notable moment: Maureen equates Priscilla’s public posture with Liz Gilbert’s, contrasting suffering-for-attention brands.
- Mark Bowden’s later analysis of Priscilla Presley’s body language (on Today Show) points to discomfort, vocal “clicks” signaling uncertainty, and mouth movements indicating bitterness and lack of candor.
- “She’s nailed herself down to being very still. At the same time, she’s not doing a lot...she feels unsure of parts of that story.” – Mark Bowden [82:24]
- “I love her to death”—said while shaking head, a textbook nonverbal cue of incongruence, about granddaughter Riley. – [85:14]
Notable Quotes:
- “It’s psychopathic. ...Is Priscilla homicidal? I don’t know. But this doesn’t look good.” – Co-host [16:09]
- “If all we have to look at is the letter from Riley...that heartbreak, I think it tells us a lot about Priscilla Presley’s character.” – Kinsey [18:46]
2. Royal Intrigue: Prince Harry, Leaks, and Palace Power Games
[20:47–26:53, 91:49–103:04]
Key Points
- Discussion of leaks about Prince Harry’s “reconciliation” summit with King Charles.
- Questions over who is leaking—the Sussex or Windsor camp.
- Reports: Harry, allegedly seeking a new royal role, presented Charles with a framed photo of Meghan and his children.
- Maureen and Kinsey dismiss the idea of deep reconciliation, pointing to persistent trust breakdown.
- “This just blows up any real chance of reconciliation because you realize you cannot trust this man. And he’s not maturing. He’s not growing up.” – Kinsey [24:28]
- Kinsey speculates someone from Charles’s team intentionally leaked details to correct overblown Sussex camp claims, which tried to pit Charles against William.
- “...whoever this is, is trying to create friction or drama between Prince William and King Charles. Yes, because what they’re doing is they’re insinuating that Prince William isn’t doing enough.” – Kinsey [25:23]
- Viral videos dissected by body language expert Mark Bowden:
- Queen Camilla’s “protective” versus “competitive” gesture toward Catherine, Princess of Wales when with Melania Trump.
- Meghan Markle’s body-blocking and stage interactions: Mark identifies grooming gestures, lack of true smiling, and evidence of discomfort and exclusion by Harry at a first responders charity event.
- “She is not confident coming on. He gave her zero confidence to stay there.” – Mark Bowden [98:32]
- “She kind of. It was a retreat. She achieved very little in that one.” – Mark [99:26]
- Prince William’s classic avoidance of Prince Andrew at a royal event, adjusting himself (adapter gesture) as a way to handle an unwanted proximity.
- “Because you can’t, at this point, remove Andrew because it’s too late...he removes his eyes off into the sky somewhere. ...He’s trying to find anywhere else to be but in a relationship with this person.” – Mark [101:59]
3. Nepo Babies in the Spotlight: Violet Affleck at the UN
[26:53–36:09]
Key Points
- Violet Affleck (daughter of Ben Affleck/Jennifer Garner) gives pro-mask speech at the UN, sparking ridicule.
- Maureen lampoons Violet’s advocacy as Greta Thunberg-lite, “paranoid Nepo baby,” and points out health paradoxes of constant masking.
- “This girl is not well, but not for the reasons she thinks.” – Maureen [28:39]
- Maureen lampoons Violet’s advocacy as Greta Thunberg-lite, “paranoid Nepo baby,” and points out health paradoxes of constant masking.
- Kinsey jokes that Violet’s example is “birth control.”
- Maureen critiques celebrity parenting, theorizes that Violet and her siblings’ public issues trace back to Jennifer Garner being too focused on Ben Affleck’s problems.
- “Ben was her favorite child, 100%.” – Co-host [36:09]
- The resonance of Nepo babies’ privilege at a time of widespread post-Covid loss.
- “She is using unearned fame, her parents fame and her wealth and her privilege to get herself over.” – Co-host [32:27]
- Violet’s gestures dissected as virtue-signaling and poorly guided behavior.
4. Tribute: Robert Redford—A Real Star and Artist
[38:52–44:10]
Key Points
- Maureen reflects on Robert Redford’s legacy after his death, calling him one of the last true movie stars and a “real artist.”
- Deep dive into his 1980 directorial debut, Ordinary People, examining its subtlety and ahead-of-its-time depiction of masculinity and family dysfunction.
- Excerpts from the film highlight the emotional truth Redford coaxed from his cast and the light touch that made the material resonate.
- Story: Judd Hirsch on Redford’s directorial style—“Smaller, bring it down...that’s where you’re going to get to the real emotional truth of the scene.” [43:57]
- Redford’s focus on truth instead of drama is lauded as “true artistry.”
5. Amy Griffin: Memoir Exposé and the Fall of a “Survivor”
[44:10–57:14]
Key Points
- Amy Griffin’s memoir, The Tell, comes under fire in a blistering New York Times exposé; Maureen previously called out inconsistencies and questions Griffin’s truthfulness.
- “I think that book is a lie. I think Amy Griffin made it up.” – Maureen [45:08]
- “Notice crickets from Amy’s camp. ...Wonder why.” – Maureen [46:01]
- Maureen urges those allegedly defamed in the memoir to sue, alleging that Griffin’s privilege does not make her bulletproof.
- Critique of the media’s willingness to let figures like Griffin peddle victimhood for status, with no accountability.
6. Special Feature: Reading the Body Language of Celebrities
(Segment with Mark Bowden)
[66:25–103:26]
Key Segments & Timestamps
A. Jimmy Kimmel's “Crocodile Tears” Apology
- [66:25–76:46] — Mark Bowden analyses Kimmel’s apology about his controversial remarks regarding Charlie Kirk’s assassin—contrasting contrition, body language, and affect with the original monologue.
- “There’s a lot of lip compressions...That’s to kind of say, look, I’ve got some stuff to say about this, but I’m not going to say that. ...There’s some self soothing in his hands as well.” – Mark [67:14]
- “In the apology, he’s going here with supplicant. Supplicant. Exactly. ...He’s looking for people to go, you know what, Jimmy, you’re all right. We understand. All is forgiven.” – Mark [77:00]
- [75:54] “Body language is more of a Rorschach test...you will project your thinking and feeling...On the whole, you’re not a good mind reader at all.”
B. Priscilla Presley’s Media Tour
- [80:15–90:31] – Bowden identifies Priscilla Presley’s discomfort, highlighting vocal “clicks” indicating uncertainty and mouth movements denoting bitterness when discussing serious accusations.
- “...innocent people, in my experience...they tend to protest their innocence immediately, vehemently and loudly. Not really...it’s very subtle and it’s very quiet...” – Mark [90:05]
C. The Royals—Micro-Interactions
- [91:49–103:04]
- Camilla, Catherine, and Melania: Camilla’s hand tap signals attention, not rivalry; Mark reads it as “protecting her piece” (Catherine).
- Meghan and Harry: Meghan’s efforts to join Harry on stage and her micro-behaviors signify reduced confidence and acceptance—Harry “gave her zero confidence to stay there.” – Mark [98:32]
- Prince William and Prince Andrew: William’s avoidance tells volumes; self-soothing gestures, “adapter” movement, and seeking non-Andrew contact signal social discomfort.
Listener Mail & Community Segment
[57:14–66:25]
- Emails cover Hugh Jackman’s divorce (“betrayal”), nepotism in Hollywood, Violet Affleck commentary, Pedro Pascal’s “creepy” vibe, musical segment suggestions, and more.
- Merchandise updates: Nerve phone cases now planned.
Memorable Quotes & Moments
- “I just want to announce that I’m getting my tubes tied after watching that [Violet Affleck’s speech]. Like, I’m getting my tubes tied. I refuse.” – Kinsey [28:39]
- “Ben was her favorite child, 100%.” – Co-host [36:09]
- “She is using unearned fame, her parents fame and her wealth and her privilege to get herself over.” – Co-host [32:27]
- “Innocent people ...protest their innocence immediately, vehemently and loudly. ...We’re not really...it’s very subtle and it’s very quiet...” – Mark Bowden on Priscilla Presley [90:05]
- “Do I want to prove that Jimmy Kimmel is a liar? No. Do I think he is? Yeah. Yeah, I do.” – Co-host [76:01]
- “He gave her zero confidence to stay there.” – Mark Bowden (on Harry & Meghan) [98:32]
Final Notes & Upcoming
- The Nerve will now offer three weekly episodes, including a Wednesday “Nerve at Night” with audience dilemma segments.
- Audience encouraged to email feedback, join the discussions, and suggest new show segments.
Timestamps Index (selected highlights)
- 07:24 — Priscilla Presley lawsuit accusations and greed
- 11:02 — Kinsey on Priscilla’s legacy: money over family
- 18:46 — Riley Keough’s letter, evidence of family fracture
- 20:47 — Royal leaks, Harry's “reconciliation,” Sussex vs. palace narratives
- 28:39 — Violet Affleck speech, kinsey’s reaction
- 38:52 — Robert Redford tribute, Ordinary People analysis
- 45:08 — Amy Griffin memoir fraud allegations
- 66:25 — Mark Bowden analyzes Jimmy Kimmel’s apology
- 80:15 — Priscilla Presley’s body language: Today Show
- 98:32 — Meghan’s failed stage triumph, Harry's distancing
- 100:51 — Prince William “adapts” to Prince Andrew's proximity
Tone
Incisive, skeptical, funny, biting, and whip-smart—the Nerve confronts topics with forensic analysis and no-holds-barred commentary, always attributing quotes directly and providing the evidence, both verbal and nonverbal, for its conclusions.
