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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
Savannah Guthrie's Shocking Return, Timothée Chalamet's Fake Image, & Brooke Shields' JFK Jr. Reveal
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Maureen Callahan kicks things off with a takedown of the aggressive push by Timothée Chalamet as this year’s Oscar frontrunner for Best Actor, pointing to a string of carefully staged appearances alongside industry heavyweights before unloading on his film "Marty Supreme," and deeming it unwatchable. She then pivots to breaking down the Safdie Brothers scandal, reacting to explosive reports tied to a disturbing incident on the set of the film "Good Time" which allegedly fueled the brothers’ infamous rift. Later, Maureen reacts to Savannah Guthrie’s visit to the "Today Show," where an emotional Hoda Kotb moment and an awkward greeting reinforced questions about the show’s behind-the-scenes dynamics, before calling out Jenna Bush Hager and Sheinelle Jones for their vapid and nauseating banter about Benny Blanco's feet. Later in the show, Bill from Brooklyn joins Maureen to discuss the wildest moments from the Winter Olympics, his take on the viral sensation Punch the monkey, and Bro...
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Bill from Brooklyn
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Maureen Callahan
welcome to your Friday edition of the Nerve. I am your host, Maureen Callahan. What a show we've got for you. We're going to kick things off with none other than Timothy Shamalama. Dingdong. Oscar voting wrapped yesterday at 5pm Pacific, 8pm Eastern. But Timothy has been snubbed twice now, once at the baftas, second at Sunday's Actor Awards. So I've been waiting to do this piece because, you know, we go after Timothy deservedly quite a bit on this show, but we haven't yet spoken about Marty supreme, partly because it took me forever to work my way through this film. It's very difficult to watch. We're going to talk about what nobody covering this movie in any remote way is talking about. And there's shocking stuff in this film. Shocking stuff. I mean, there's one scene that stopped me in my tracks and I thought, how is it that the New York Times isn't discussing this and any, any remotely woke feminist media outlet should have been all over this one particular scene. And it's, it's just gone completely unremarked upon. And then we're going to go into what the problem is with the Safdie Brothers, the much lauded Safdie Brothers. And if you don't pay much attention to independent film, you really wouldn't know who these two are. But they are two brothers who made their name with the Adam Sandler indie drama Uncut Gems. And since then they've been lauded as like, you know, you know what, you know how I always say, explain the Duplass Brothers. To me, these two are treated like the Duplass Brothers on steroids. And we've got some, again, some really, really, really effed up stuff about these two that the media will not cover. But hey, that's why the nerve is here, right? That's why the nerve is here. Then we've got breaking news over at the Today show. Our pal Rob Shooters reporting was dead on. Savannah Guthrie showed up back on set on Thursday. Not back to work yet, not quite back to work, but she's back on set. She's back in New York City. All signs indicate she's going to come back to work. We have a lot to discuss as well as what those miscreants, what those morons over there have been using as like, passable topics of conversation on a breakfast morning show. Again, the culture just always provides for us. We had to push a bunch of other stuff into next week because this became a very voluminous segment. And then we've got troublemaker feedback with some troublemaker art that made me laugh out loud. You guys are going to die. Plus plus we are going to then bring in nerve OG and a mo fav fave. None other than Bill from Brooklyn. Bill's got a lot to say on Lindsey Vaughn on the U.S. men's hockey team. He's got theories on punch the monkey. Brook Shields outing JFK Jr. As basically a terrible guy. A terrible guy. The gamut, essentially. And then we have a plea to the troublemakers to get Bill from Brooklyn on our Oscars livestream. Our Oscars livestream, which is going, it's going to begin, we believe, at 6:30pm ET. That's the plan. Oscar night. That's Sunday, March 15th. Bill from Brooklyn is kind of like, I have a Knicks game to go to. And we're like, we can make this work. We can make it work. And he's sort of like leaving me hanging. Troublemakers, please. When you see these clips on YouTube and in social media, just gently pressure Bill to do the right thing and show up for the Oscars livestream. Bill is not on social media, but his wife is and she reads the comments. Okay? So if anybody's going to get it done, it's my beloved sister in law. Okay? All great stuff. Are you ready? Are you ready? Let's go. Troublemakers are banks cashing your interest checks while you're buried in debt. PDS debt can help. PDS debt has freed hundreds of thousands of people from credit card, personal loan and medical debt with tailored plans that put you first. No minimum credit score needed. They've got an A plus rating from the Better Business Bureau and a nearly five star rating on trustpilot with thousands of real success stories. So don't wait another month. Take back your control. In 30 seconds, get your free personalized assessment and the best option for you at PDS debt.com/ nerve. That's PDS debt.com nerve PDS debt.com/ nerve. On to Marty Supreme. The nerve comes not to praise, but to Barry. We're going to begin as we end our pylon. Unless some other egregious statement is uttered by Timothy or, you know, something occurs which, which cannot escape our notice, we are going to leave him alone until the Oscars. Okay? That's the deal. Timothy, can you keep your mouth shut? Can you stop flouncing around like a theater kid on steroids for a hot minute? Now, before we get into Marty supreme, we have got to cover a little bit. So and, and we're doing this to show basically how this machinery works. The industry for a time clearly wanted Timothy to win the best Actor Oscar for Marty Supreme. It's part of the business. It's how they anoint the next generation. The next actor who can potentially still be a draw at a dying box office. So in come the big guns now. You know, again, I don't see any of this going on really for Ethan Hawke. And we all know the nerves, feelings here at. Regarding the Oscars and the best actor category. It should be Ethan Hawke's to lose a career defining performance in Blue Moon. A body of work that really just surpasses most of his peers. A collaboration with Richard Linklater, which is one for the ages, but goes all too undervalued in the culture. We'll get to it at another time, we really will. But for now, Matthew McConaughey did a town hall with Timothy on CNN. And you know, again, these media, the network legacy news wonders why it's dying. People are not tuning in to see the likes of. All right, all right, all right. Having an intellectual Ted a Tet with Mr. Top Level Shit, okay? And the ratings can attest to that because this town hall, which aired on Saturday, February 21, 2026 in prime time, tanked in the ratings, okay? It only drew 435,000 linear viewers and we don't even know if that means a view is counted for like 30 seconds or a minute. So on to this meeting of the minds. Timothy is going to talk to McConaughey. I don't understand how this is what passes for a hazing or a practical joke in Hollywood. George Clooney is guilty of a very similar prank. And I've got theories about this kind of stuff. But they work together on Interstellar. Great film. Directed by Christopher Nolan, who we're going to get to in a moment. Matthew McConaughey was the star. Timmy was a teenager on the come up. And this is Timothy and Matthew reminiscing about. About a little prank Matthew pulled on Timmy. If you are eating something, I would suggest that you stop. This is pretty graphic. It's gross. Here we go.
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Timothy Chalamet
I went in my trailer and I went in the bathroom and there was a huge, huge turd in my toilet. And I was like. I felt so disrespecting. I thought, oh, man, I know I'm not the star in this movie, but, like, who? Who's coming? So I went around to all the huge grips and we weren't even the suburbs of Canada, these big guys. I said, hey, when you guys, you know, let it loose. And they said, no. And I went up to Nolan on set too.
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Bill from Brooklyn
I said.
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Timothy Chalamet
And he kind of pointed to Matthew and I like that. Matthew had this devilish grin on his face, like right now, man. I said, why'd you do that, man? He said, it's a coming in Texas coming of age baby.
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Bill from Brooklyn
He's like, you know, souvenir. A little souvenir.
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Timothy Chalamet
That's a true story, though.
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Maureen Callahan
I don't think that's funny. I think it's disgusting. And I love how too, like, there's like, Timmy's got this way of speaking, like he's trying to sound cool and like he's got some swag and is like, you know, he doesn't really fully enunciate, I guess. And then he's talking about, like, Nolan. No, you know, like, they're so cool. They just call each other by their surnames. Not that like Christopher Nolan is, you know, an iconic director worthy of more respect than that. Timothy was like, had barely, barely begun making his name in film. But anyway, it's Nolan and it's like. And the idea that like a crew member would go into a trailer belonging to talent and take a dump in there and not think they would get fired for that, that it wouldn't be laughed off as a prank pulled by their A list leading man, you know, you know, again, that goes to sort of the level of classism and it's. This is why, again, this is why Hollywood is dying. Nobody on the planet relates to stories like these. Now, Timothy Chalamet and Christopher Nolan then. Then did a Q and a. They did a Q and A, sorry, before the McConaughey Town Hall. This was done on February 10, 2026 at the AMC Universal CityWalk in LA. The audio is bad, so I'm not going to play it. But in some. In substance, Christopher Nolan talked to Shyamalama Ding Dong about an interstellar scene in which Nolan was. I'm saying this as a cert because, like, I'm shortening it now just for expediency, not because I'm being like Timothy, slinging my bullshit. You know, whatever. He's not cool. He tries to be cool. He's not cool. Anyway, Christopher Nolan was telling Shyamalama Ding Dong, here's how I want you to do this scene. And he wouldn't do the scene the way in which he was directed. And he. Nolan kept telling him, I want you to do it this way, and he wouldn't do it. And the takeaway, the pull quote from Christopher Nolan to Shamalama Ding Dong is you went ahead and did whatever the fuck you wanted.
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Bill from Brooklyn
And.
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Maureen Callahan
And I don't think that's charming. And I wonder if Christopher Nolan got roped into doing this, you know, because I just. He's an unlikable person. Now. I do think that there is a melding here between Shamalama Ding Dong's Persona and the titular character he plays. In Marty Supreme. The character is always at 11. You know, that's my sort of Spinal Tap metric, you know, where they say, like, they're asked, like, how loud they like to play live. And one of them goes, I forget whether it was Christopher guest or Michael McKean, but they say, oh, we put the amp up to 11. And Rob Reiner goes, the amps only go up to 10. And they're like, yeah, we put it up to 11. Marty is always at an 11, just like Timothy. We're always at an 11. And it's a lot of energy coming at you, just like, unrelenting. Like, the movie never really takes a dip and the guy is completely unlikable. Now I'm going to tell you, I mean, we're going to show two of what I think are some of the darkest scenes in a very dark movie, a very dark movie about a malignant narcissist whose only goal is to become the ping pong champion of the world who can't relate a real Rocky story, you know what I mean? Lacking the depth and the nuance. You know, this is really actually such a travesty because Sylvester Stallone really, I think never, ever gets the full credit he should have gotten for Rocky. Like, that movie is both a piece of true pop culture, but it's also a work of art. It really is. But because it appeals to the masses, it never really gets elevated the way that it should. But Marty supreme is getting elevated because the Safdie brothers did it. Oh, sorry, the Safdie brothers have split up. We're getting to it. Josh Safdie did this movie. Josh Safdie did this movie. Timothy. You know what I mean? It's just like a whole thing. It's got. It's just gussied up in ribbons and bows. And it's a garbage movie about garbage people. Now, at one point in the movie, the Marty character is responsible for a dog not belonging to him either getting blown up in a very violent. I mean, there's only one way to get blown up, but we're talking like spraying gasoline around. You know, in the film, there's. It cuts to a scene of the dog, like, sort of running away, but it almost looks like a celestial, heavenly kind of backdrop. And so I'm reading that as the director saying to me, viewer, you can read this as one of two outcomes. The dog died, which is the legitimate, logical one. Or the dog somehow disappeared. Whatever will sit best with you. These are dark hearts at work. Dark minds. Dark hearts. And then, anyway, Marty and his pregnant, married girlfriend, by the way, who he's refusing to believe that the baby is his in other very disgusting ways, they are attempting to rip off the dead dog's owner and get some reward money full well, knowing that they're lying to this person. Here we go.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
I know it's really not your problem, but I'm about to have a baby. Look, I got no husband right now. I got no job, and this money would really, really help me. And, you know, let's be good people.
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Bill from Brooklyn
You realize I got that dog for free. It's a pound. Right?
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Well, that's kind of the wrong way to look at it.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Oh, really?
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Yeah, really.
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Bill from Brooklyn
How am I supposed to look at it?
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Timothy Chalamet
Yeah.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Cuz let's just say that I'm not. I'm not calling about a dog. Let's say that I'm calling about your mother, and I'm a doctor and I got to perform emergency surgery on her.
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Maureen Callahan
She's gonna die.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
What are you gonna do? Refuse the surgery because you got your mother for free? No, that's crazy. You're going to take the surgery because
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Bill from Brooklyn
you love your mother.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Well, then I guess you don't know anything about love.
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Bill from Brooklyn
All right, get it. Give me your address.
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Maureen Callahan
Okay.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Come now. I bring you to cash.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
I'm sorry, but. No, no, no, it's really not your fault, and you sound like a very nice person. It's just I've been ripped off one too many times in the past, and I'm just not willing to let that happen to me again. So we're just going to need a find a way to get me the money first, you know?
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
The worst scam artist ever. What's wrong with you? I'm trying. Hey. Okay, fine.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Well, then if you really don't give
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Maureen Callahan
a about your dog that you bought
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
for free, how about I donate him to medical science? Would that be something you wanted?
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Maureen Callahan
Work. Disgusting.
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Timothy Chalamet
Better. What am I doing? Terrible idea.
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Bill from Brooklyn
It was moronic.
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Timothy Chalamet
I was.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
I'm sorry. I was trying to give it a shot.
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Timothy Chalamet
That's not your fault.
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Bill from Brooklyn
It's stupid, right?
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Come calm down.
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Maureen Callahan
What.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
What color is the dog?
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Bill from Brooklyn
Why?
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Maureen Callahan
Who cares?
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Bill from Brooklyn
It's brown.
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Reese Witherspoon
Okay?
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
My boss knows all of the local breeders, and maybe we can get one that looks the same and the owner won't be able to tell the difference.
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Timothy Chalamet
You don't think he's gonna recognize his own dog that he loves.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
But I'm saying maybe not at first.
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Timothy Chalamet
Working on my game right now, instead of him in their used car lot making a mockery of my life, doing prank calls.
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Maureen Callahan
That's Marty supreme in a nutshell. Truly. What kind of dog is it? It's brown. I can find another dog. You know, and. And not for nothing, the strain of misogyny, it's strong. I was speaking a bit over that clip, but the. The dog owners call. Calls the girlfriend on the phone. You dumb bitch. There's a scene in which it looks like the girlfriend's husband smacks her around. Marty just completely everyone and everything in his life, but women especially are just at best, a distraction as he rises through the ranks of international table tennis. Now, there's a sex scene in this movie that I found extremely disturbing, involving Timothy and Gwyneth Paltrow. And not just because of the obvious age difference. And if the reports are true, it was Julia Roberts who was offered the Gwyneth role first. And at one point they were like, listen, we will give you $20 million if you just do this small role, which is going to require maybe five to 10 days worth of work. And Julia Roberts said, no, I'm not doing it. You know why? I'm going to look like I'm molesting a child. Timothy looks like he's 12. It's creepy. It's creepy for that reason, but I'm going. I'm not Going to tell you what goes on in this sex scene. We'll watch it together. This is graphic, by the way. So if you've got kids around like, no, no, no, no, no. This is graphic. And I cannot believe anybody is. I can't believe nobody else is talking about this again. This is why the nerve exists. Here we go. I'm sorry, Ms. Stone wanted to let
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
you know that she'd love to have lunch with you.
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Timothy Chalamet
Ms. Stone?
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Maureen Callahan
Yes. Smash cut to them having sex in the shower is behind her. He's got his hand wrapped around her neck, joking her and also removing her diamond necklace, which is going to retrieve later from the drain. But he's got his hand around her neck and she looks like she is in ecstasy. Okay, that's enough. That's enough. I don't even want to see any more. This is what porn has done to young men. They think that this is what women want. They think this is hot, they think this is sexy. They think this is powerful. Never let a man put his hands around your neck, no matter what. This is disgusting. But hey, let's listen to Timothy talk about the work he's put now because we can never get enough of it. Here we go.
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Bill from Brooklyn
About this rule.
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Timothy Chalamet
The assertiveness, the confidence, the. Sometimes you gotta call things as it is, as they are and not tiptoe, especially as you get older. I'm about to be 30. I wanna look back on my interviews when I'm fried and mentally anguished in my 60s and look back at my interviews, my late 20s, and go, Man, I was really speaking the truth and not afraid of, of the truth.
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Maureen Callahan
Just get to it, Tim.
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Timothy Chalamet
That said, like, this is probably my best performance, you know, and then it's been like seven, eight years that I feel like I've been handing in really, really committed, top of the line performances. And it's important to say it out loud because the discipline and the, the work ethic, I'm bringing these things I don't want people to take granted, I don't want to take for granted. This is really some top level shit.
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Maureen Callahan
Look at that smirk on his face. This is really some top level shit. I can't wait to see that smirk get wiped off his fucking face at the Oscars. God. If the nerve is moving as quickly as we want it to, Timothy will be denied. Now onto the Safdie brothers and what broke this artistic union up. Now, you may not know this, but the New York Post has launched a California edition and their inaugural front page headline, Oscar Wilde. This is from Sorry, January 2026. We're just in March. I can't believe it. Okay, January 2026. Oscar Wilde is the headline. That's cute actually. Oscar Wilde, spiritual godfather of the nerve. Shocking truth behind director Safdie brothers mystery. Split a mystery no more Page six Hollywood headline. The teenage sex scene that sparked the infamous rift between the edgy director brothers. Okay, the root of the quarrel. I'm reading from this article again. I cannot believe this was not picked up gone viral. But you know, the ETs of the world, the Access Hollywoods of the world, they're never going to cover it. They're never going to cover it. A much stems from a much darker incident that occurred on the set of their 2017 breakout. Good time page six. Hollywood can reveal with Benny cutting ties with his brother in 2023 after he learned the full scope of the event. So I'm going to guess Benny's the source here because you know, I think he probably was aware of the full scope of the event sooner than late. You know, I'm just, just my opinion. Just my opinion. According to Good Times sources reading from the article, a 17 year old girl was cast to play a prostitute in the crime thriller. Again, how many prostitutes does Hollywood need? Talk about overrepresentation of a subgroup. Once on set, the teenager was thrust into a scene that involved nudity and simulated sex with actor in quotes. Buddy Duress. What a. What a name. Under Duress. Nominative determinism. During production in New York as part of their verite style, the Safdies were known for using a mix of professional stars like the film's lead Robert Pattinson, as well as non actors like Duress. There are non actors all over Marty Supreme. It's a gimmick, you know, everybody's going, wow, Kevin, Mr. Wonderful. Kevin O' Leary from Shark Tank is a revelation as acting as Gwyneth Paltrow's husband in this movie. You know what? He's not. I'm sorry, you know what they give him as his big scene? It's a Shark Tank episode. It's Kevin o' Leary sitting across from Marty, AKA Timothy. And they're basically brokering a deal. And it's. I'm, I'm watching Kevin basically channel himself on Shark Tank. It's not, he's not a brilliant actor who was just waiting to be discovered, you know, get the out. Hype is hype. I see through it. Okay, anyway, so the non actor Buddy Duress picking up from the Page Six piece had just been released from prison Duress, real name Michael Stathis, had been jailed numerous times dating back to 2009 on drug charges, weapons violations, fencing, stolen property and motor. Motor vehicle theft, according to court records. Okay, this is how we know Benny's the source. Just my opinion because he said he learned the full. The article says rather not that Benny says. The article says that Benny later learned the full scope. I don't know how Benny could later learn the full scope as it's. As it's described here. Benny's right on the set holding the boom, reading from the piece while Josh Safdie watched the action unfold on his monitor. And Benny stood in the corner holding the boom. Duress, who was high at the time, pulled down his pants, exposed himself and asked the girl if he could, quote, stick it in. As the cameras continued to roll, multiple sources tell Page Six Hollywood duress died of a heroin overdose in November 2023. Quote, Any director who had seen that should have yelled cut and stopped the scene. First of all, any director who had any moral fiber whatsoever would not be hiring a violent ex con who seemed to have been an active drug addict and put them in front of a 17 year old to simulate a sex scene. Okay, these guys. Josh Safdie, I can't say it about Benny necessarily. I'm going to say I think Josh Safdie is one sick fucking puppy. Quote, any director who had seen that should have yelled cut and stopped the scene, but Josh let it continue. Says an onset source who's definitely not Benny Safdie, who noted that Josh picking back up and not Benny was the de facto commander on set. Three sources say Josh, who is now vying for this year's best director Oscar, became aware of the girl's age on the day of production. Shortly after the scene shot. As the traumatized girl spiraled, Josh declined comment. Using a minor for nudity and a sex scene would flout industry norms, including a Screen Actors Guild rule that stipulates work conditions not be, quote, detrimental to the health, morals and safety of the minor. Close. Quote. Those familiar with the chain of events say Josh's recklessness was beyond the pale. That is an understatement. My aside, the Safdies removed the scene sometimes sometime. Excuse me. Before the A24 film made its splashy world premiere at the 2017 Cannes Film Festival. Sources close to them insist that the scene was excised, quote, for creative reasons. Anyone who wants to sell you the notion that Hollywood has changed for the better since Harvey Weinstein was sent to prison, since the MeToo movement since people like Reese Witherspoon found their own, have founded their own production companies, and it's girl power all the way. Not effing so. Not effing so. And I gotta say, like, you know, shame on Gwyneth Paltrow for not pushing back with that sex scene. She certainly has the power. She could have said, there's no way I'm doing a sex scene. Pushing out the idea that it's totally normal for a male partner to be choking out a woman during sex. You can die that way. Okay, fuck this shit. That's it. That's it. Let's hope that the Oscars does right and shuts out Marty Supreme. We will be back in a minute with your feedback. See you soon. After having a few drinks, do you find it hard to bounce back? Do you find yourself choosing between having a great night or a great day tomorrow, try Zebiotics Pre Alcohol. It's the first genetically engineered probiotic created by PhD scientists to help you tackle those rough mornings after drinking. Here's how it works. When you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. 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Reese Witherspoon
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Maureen Callahan
We are back. Now, before we get into our incredible troublemaker feedback and art that will make your day, we have got to talk about the latest breaking developments over at the Today show. Savannah Guthrie returned. She is back in New York City, and on Thursday morning, she did not go on camera, but she went to Studio 1A. She went to the today show and saw her colleagues, and this is a very good indicator and good for her, good for Savannah, that she is likely returning to that chair. Her life has got to go on. I don't think there is a single person in America who would begrudge Savannah and attempt to return to some normalcy, living through this nightmare. Hollywood reporter headline on Thursday, Savannah Guthrie returns to today's show, set for first time since mom Nancy's disappearance. Now, those ghouls at the today show, I think just my humble opinion, are really concerned with how this most impacts them. TMZ got this incredible footage which Marlena found right before we came to you. And I was like, we have got to get this in. This is incredible. So we're going to look at it together. It's now, what's amazing about this footage is Savannah, these are. These are creatures of television, okay? They know camera angles. They know live tv. They know paparazzi. They know still photography. They are aware of everything. Savannah is at Studio 1A, which is on the ground level. It's got Florida floor to ceiling windows. It's designed so that the fans outside can see in and the talent inside can see out. Okay, Savannah's got her back to the windows. She's got her back to the cameras. Guess who's facing the window, facing the cameras? It's Hoda. It's Hoda. Copy. Who is visibly seen wiping away tears. I think these tears are not for the reasons kinder minds would describe. Okay. I think Hoda now sees the writing on the wall. She's sitting in Savannah's chair. And Savannah's coming back. And you can look at this footage, too. And Savannah's hugging a lot of people before she ever gets over to her bff Hoda. And hode is just kind of like, where do I go? What do I do? Oh, there's someone over here. Oh, to hug you. I. I may. I, I may see you every morning. You may be bringing me coffee every five effing seconds. I'm just going to hug you so I can, like, eat up some time before Hoda finally DS to acknowledge me. People magazine, how does this affect Jenna bush Hager you may ask the incisive, sensitive, nuanced, mega talent non nepo baby that is Jenna Bush Hager. People magazine's headline, jenna Bush Hager tears up on air over Savannah Guthrie's emotional return to today's show. Set quote, we've all been waiting for her, doubtless in that creaky voice. You know, that creaky voice Jenny uses when she's trying to squeeze out tears that are never going to come. All right, listen. Next week is going to give us no shortage of this, and we will be. We listen, as I've said, this is another crime scene. The Today show is another crime scene. And I, for one, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I'm very happy to see Savannah go back.
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Brooke Shields
She.
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Maureen Callahan
I'm very, very happy for her to go back. And you know why? Not just because it's, I think, psychologically healthy for her, but because it's going to be like a ray. Like the rats. They're all going to scatter. They're going to scatter. You think anybody at 30 Rock really wants Hoda being a permanent fixture there once Savannah settles in and, like, gets sort of a little bit back into her routine? No, no. Craig Melvin. Rob tells us he doesn't want her there. Nobody wants Hoda there. Jenna doesn't want Hoda there. You don't. Okay, before we come right around, you know, we like to tell a story that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. And we'll circle back and tie this up with a bow. A bow for you guys. I've been wanting to do this for a while, and then the way this story began unfolding, it just. It gave us a beautiful, beautiful opening. We already went through the, I believe the Today show openings for the fourth hour of Today when it was Hoda and Jenna, and then when Hoda left and it was Jenna and Friends, and these show opens are so low rent and so embarrassing. And to me, they're evident of two things. One, the network thinks very little of these two as talents, and two, they're only willing to budget accordingly. I mean, this show open looks like they spent five cents on it. And unlike the Jenna and Friends show open, which was a solo Jenna, which, like, stiffly walking around New York City in her pink trench coat, like, just very naturally getting a cup of coffee from a street vendor and maybe very naturally waving at her fans, you know, that one had what was clearly like a middle aged white woman singing that theme song. And this one they've. Because now Chanel is the co Host. And Chanel is black and Jenna is white. It's. It seems like they've tried to make the theme song sound a little bit more urban, you know what I'm saying? And if you are only listening to the podcast, I'm going to encourage you, go to the YouTube channel and just watch this part of it, because this show open is. It's like something out of SNL if SNL was doing it. And it's just the production values are. It's so cheap. Okay, here we go. We got it.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, we're shining today from the heart
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Maureen Callahan
of New York City It's Today with Jenna and Chanel. We got it.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, we're shining today Everything feels all right With Jenna and Chanel we're shining
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Maureen Callahan
today it's got, like, two lyrics. Like, we got it. We're shining With Jenna and Chanel Everything's gonna be okay. I mean, can you talk boilerplate? And. And, like, there's not even. It's so cheap. Like, they're in the same clothes for, like, three quarters of the whole. Like, oh, let's high five. Let's. Like, Savannah cannot come back fast enough. I know she really doesn't have much to do with the fourth hour of today, but I would like to see, like, an. Like, a. Like, Savannah, who's really now been through some real fucking shit, just. Just take that rage and. And. And just have it just explode in Studio 1A, okay? Because on Tuesday, Jenna and Chanel decided to open their show. And mind you, this is a breakfast show. This is a show that people have, you know, are easing into their day, and they're having their coffee, and they've maybe just, you know, had something to eat. And these two decide that the. The first topic of conversation should be Benny Blanco's filthy, disgusting feet. And I'm going to. We're going to show this. And again, if you're watching, we're just going to give you a real warning. This is. This is disgusting. I personally hate feet. I think that men should never, ever, ever show their feet in public unless they're on a beach. A beach or a boat. That's it. And if you're going to do it, then they better be pedicured to the hilt. That's it. This is a provocation to the culture, okay? And this is why the nerve is here. We're going to push right back now. And Jenna is too much of a dummy to say to her producer, we should not be doing this. This is disgusting. But does Jenna have two fucking brain cells to Rub together. No. Even her own father, a former president, said, I don't have time to watch your stupid effing show. I mean, I don't think he cursed, but he called her show stupid in some substance. Here we go.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Should we talk about feet now?
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Maureen Callahan
Let's do it. Okay, so one of my favorite couples, Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. They're making the headline.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Last week, Benny's fe feet went viral.
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Maureen Callahan
Benny looks like a drug addict. There they are. Well, I mean, looks like a drug addict. It's his couch. Let him live.
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Brooke Shields
Let.
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Maureen Callahan
Let his feet fly. You know, it's disgusting. These people are. They're so wealthy. You're telling me you can't afford a nice pair of slippers? Like, how much did that couch cost? You're going to put your bare filthy effing feet. You know, I think that Benny Blanco is one of those guys who just is like he negs. His entire existence is a neg. If you remember that guy, what was his name? Mystery. He was big in the 90s and his whole thing was like he was going to tell loser dudes how to punch above their weight on the dating scene. And the way to get women who were way out of their class was to just neg them, insult them. And Benny Blanco is the embodiment of a human neg. This is disgusting. And then Jen is going to take this as an opportunity again. She can only bring it back to herself. This is a limited mind, a limited self absorbed mind. And she's going to share with America the state of her heels. And this is a woman, trust me, who has the money and the means to have a pedicurist come to her home and attend to her feet so she doesn't even have to build in, say, the 15 to 20 minute drive to a spa and the 15 and 20 minute drive back, let alone the extra five to 10 minutes you have to wait if your pedicurus happens to be running behind. Do you know what I'm saying? Here we go. Worried people are going to. Don't look too close. Yeah, but you have on heels. We want. I know, but I don't have a want to. But anyway. Okay, that's just a pedicure. Yes, this week.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Pedicure care, pedicure away.
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Maureen Callahan
But I cannot believe that there are executives at 30 Rock who are comfortable enough with this level of inertia conversationally, talent wise. Can we bring it up to a level that isn't completely embarrassing? Again, this is a breakfast show. Ostensibly. Now this brain trust again. I'm Going to warn you because this is truly disgusting. They're going to continue with a photo of Selena Gomez kissing Benny Blanco's disgusting feet. Here we go. Okay, well, we weren't prepared for that.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
That came too soon.
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Maureen Callahan
They're recording. And she kissed his toes. I think she kissed his feet and kissed his toes because there's been such a hubbabaloo about people talking about his feet. And she's like, you know what hullabaloo
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Gatorade Announcer
part of you down to your toes.
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Maureen Callahan
Toe. Did she put it in her mouth? Kiss it? She just kissed. Were they talking about his feet when
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
she did that, or that just happened?
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Maureen Callahan
She just felt led to kiss his feet.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
They love each other a lot, so
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Maureen Callahan
of course this is. We chat on this show.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
Have you ever kissed anyone's feet?
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Maureen Callahan
It's an abusive relationship, in my opinion. I know. No, I will. I will thump you. Jenna's a mean girl. She's asking Chanel if she's ever had sexual relations with a foot in some substance. Stop looking at me, Chanel. You're telling me not even the throes
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
of passion have the feet been brought to the table?
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Maureen Callahan
Listen, mean girl, push back. I have never. But somebody might have. No, you don't have to answer every question. Okay, let's end it. Let's end it. Let's end it, let's end it. And what? You know, like they're wearing their yellow. Their yellow ribbons for Nancy Guthrie, and they're talking about. Janet Rather is prosecuting Chanel and saying, you've never involved feet in your sexual play. You know, this woman's husband died not too long ago. When I tell you that morning television is a cesspool full of vipers. I mean, Megyn Kelly talks about it all the time. Who would know better? You know what I mean? Now, in an attempt at dignity,
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Bill from Brooklyn
the
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Maureen Callahan
brain trust over at the Today show invited New York City's new archbishop or New York's new archbishop. Now, New York's former archbishop, Timothy Dolan was like a real media kind of gadfly. He loved the media. He was very media friendly, very media savvy, knew how to do it. The new guy, Ronald Hicks, and I mean no disrespect in calling him the new guy. Born and raised a Catholic, he doesn't seem that media savvy yet. And I think it was premature for him to appear on the Today show where again, the brain trust of Hoda Kotb, Craig Melvin, and Carson Daly asked the archbishop to lead them in a public televised prayer for Savannah Guthrie and her family and this thing. Extremely uncomfortable. Which means we're gonna watch it together. Here we go. I wanna ask you something. I'm sure you're aware of what's been going on around here. Our dear friend Savannah's mom has been. She's smiling for a couple of weeks. And there are a lot of people struggling, including Savannah and her family. And just wondered if you had any words for them and for us.
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Archbishop Ronald Hicks
Is the new archbishop here. It's just like everyone, it's heartbreaking. It's hard to watch. I want to just extend my absolute support and especially my prayers. Not only my own prayers, but she has a community of people who's praying for her and for her mom and for the entire family.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Archbishop.
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Maureen Callahan
We don't have a lot of time, Craig.
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Bill from Brooklyn
And the spirit's actually just moved me.
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Maureen Callahan
Could you lead us in a brief prayer? Really?
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Archbishop Ronald Hicks
Let's just take a moment to put ourselves in the presence of God and ask. God with his Satan rules the Today Show, Archbishop. And his grace and his mercy and his goodness. Just be with Savannah. He's struggling with this entire situation. Be with her mom. Bring hope, peace, some resolution to all of this. And let her know of the great love and support and prayers that surround her. In your name we ask. Amen.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Amen. Thank you for that.
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Reese Witherspoon
Thank you.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Thank you so much, Archbishop.
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Maureen Callahan
Well, you know what? I think that Hoda did not get the answers to her prayers that she was hoping for. I think that Hoda was hoping that Savannah would be gone forever. I think that Hoda is now looking at a long future of being barricaded, frankly, from the set at the Today show from Studio 1A. I mean, if I'm Savannah and I'm coming back and Savannah's got all the power now. She's got all the power. Oh, my God. First order of business. After negotiating, like, a much greater pay package and deal with full. Full of perks and whatnot, I. And making sure they never do a Dateline on my mother. Okay, that too. Those ghouls over there have been trying to do a dateline since the minute Nancy was snatched from her bed. Yeah, I would. Hoda would be barred for life. Barred for life. Okay, now on to your email, which is so incredible. Okay, this. This is a frequent writer slash artist troublemaker Nadia is back with new. A new installment in the adventures. Excuse me. Of Puss and Pooch. She calls this operation Stead Muffin. Can he finally be saved? We are showing this art full screen. In it is my one and only Teddy Bear piloting a helicopter. His helmet says Team Nerve. He's on comms, unlike JFK Junior. Am I right? In the back is Nadia's cat Daisy with her pearls, lifting Steadman. Nay, Stead Muffin to safety as there is an explosion in the back. And coming up on Teddy Van Halen is none other than Oprah in her helicopter. Hello again from snowy Canada. Dearest Maureen. Aw. My beloved cat Daisy and the distinguished Teddy Van Halen are hot on the trail again for the possibly departed Stedman Graham. But look. This amazing picture was captured by Team Nerve satellites. It appears as though Top Gun Teddy and Goose Puss Daisy are about to rescue Stedman in a wild helicopter chase. The helicopter of the Mistress of Darkness herself, Oprah, is about to go down. But will they succeed? Find out on the next captivating Fast and Furious episode of Puss and Pooch. Signed off with double hearts from troublemaker Nadia P. S. Fuck Oprah and Gail, too. Love it. Subject. Oh, my God. This actually does not have a subject line which made it very enticing. Hi, Maureen. My husband and I. Oh, I've watched you since day one. Thank you. I cannot tell you how much we admire your bravery for going into space. Thank you for acknowledging my greatness. Denise and Jim. Although we were happy to go on vacation for a week in Charleston, we were sad to miss your show this week. Little did we know that you would be with us in spirit. We went to a restaurant, Hyman Seafood, and lo and behold, look who sat at the table in the past. See picture below. We're going to show it full screen. It made our day. Sarah Jessica Parker ate at this table. Marlena's question, did she give, like, a shitty tip like she tried to do when she had lunch with Jerry Seinfeld on Comedians and Getting Cars and coffee? Subject Gene Tierney. Yeah, we heard back. We talked about Gene Tierney in the most recent. I think it was nerve at night. And we heard from a lot of you troublemakers who say, yes, as Troublemaker Laura here does, to a nerve episode on Gene Tierney. Laura says, I have loved her since I saw Laura when I was a teenager. Same. I think I saw Laura when I was maybe 11 for the first time as a Laura myself. I love the movie and the theme song, as I often do with my favorite actresses. I've tried to watch all of her other films. Razor's Edge, which I've not seen. I love the Somerset Malm book, but I have not seen the. I've never seen that. There's a Bill Murray adaptation Too. But I should see the Jean one. Heaven Can Wait. Two other gems of hers. I have a collection of old Hollywood bios. So do I. But I was unaware of her autobiography. I will definitely be ordering a copy now. You will not regret it, Laura. So yeah, we will do a segment on Gene Tierney in a future Nerve. Marlene is taking notes. I know that this came to me from a DM on Instagram sent to my account at Maureen Callahan, writer. I read this. I immediately copied it and sent it to myself because this one is too good. It is from someone who goes by Chief James, who gave me permission to read this with his name. Basically in some substance he was like, I'm too. I'm. I'm old enough not to care. I'm not caught up with the JFK miniseries Chief James writes. But I assume Ted Kennedy is about to enter the chat. You are so right. So I wanted to share this story with you. I grew up on Cape Cod and joined the military there with the local Air national guard unit. Circa 2005. 2006, there was a groundbreaking ceremony for the new fire department that was about to be built. I was working in the public affairs office at the time. Senator Ted Kennedy was the guest speaker. Sympathies. He hung around afterward. Afterwards, excuse me, to mingle with people. I was in close proximity because my job was to take photos of him with our fellow military members. Ted had both of his dogs with him. Given your intimacy with the Kennedy family, you are probably already aware of this, but I wanted to share in the event you are not. Do you know what kind of dogs that son of a bitch owned? Portuguese water dogs. Water. Remember Ted Kennedy left Mary a senator, then left Mary Joe Capechne to die in three feet of water. She could have been saved. Did he bother to save her? No. You know why? He was so concerned with what that might look like for his presidential ambitions that he made the calculation it was better to let her die and figure that he could probably with enough help get away with it than to go seek help rescue this girl who died a virgin. She was 28. She died a virgin. I knew Chief Jim that Ted. I hate calling him Ted because it's so fuzzy, you know. His real name was Edward. Edward Kennedy had Portuguese water dogs. You know why? Because he gave two puppies to Michelle and Barack Obama when they were in the White House. So they were descendants of Edward Kennedy's water dogs. And I never really cared for Barack Obama's closeness to Edward Kennedy. I understood he needed it for political reasons, but the guy was an amoral piece of. We can get into him sexually assaulting waitresses in full view of restaurant staff at a D.C. restaurant that he and his good friend Senator Chris Dodd used to frequent all the time. We could get into that later. It's in ask not. But anyway, so Kennedy had. Edward Kennedy had these Portuguese water dogs and Chief Jim continues. Do you know what one of them was named? I did not. So, Chief Jim, you were doing just the nerves work here. One of those dogs was named Splash. Fucking Splash. Jim says. That's it. Please keep your incredible, educational, edifying, phenomenal feedback coming. Email me at maureenvilmakehairmedia.com remember to subscribe to the Nerve substack. That is our weekly email@thenerveshow.com just go over there thenerveshow.com you will see a prompt. Would you like to get our weekly substack? Put your email in. That's it. Friday afternoon after the week's last full Nerve shows up in your inbox and it's full of bonus content. We're talking to troublemakers. We're doing interviews with them. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to people who write in. We're giving recommendations as personalized. Note all of it. And don't forget to mark your calendars again for March 15th. That is the nerves Oscars live stream. It's going to be our biggest, boldest one yet. We are going to kick things off at 6:30pm ET with our red carpet coverage. We've got full Hollywood reportage, we've got special guests coming in. Full details will be going up on the Nerves Instagram page in the coming days. Be sure to check for updates at the Nerve show. Also on my Instagram account, Maureen callahanriter. No one, and I mean no one, is going to cover the Oscars the way the Nerve is going to cover the Oscars. And you can be sure that Timothy C's top level shit is coming out to play. Okay? And of course we're gonna have our live Troublemaker chat. It was our live Troublemaker chat during the Globes livestream that gave us the theory that Gayle King had disposed of Stedman by turning him into Spain space junk when she went up there. And that resulted in one of Paul's greatest artworks ever of Steadman as space junk. So do not miss it. It is going to be the best. Up next, the original Mo Bro, my brother Bill from Brooklyn is here. See you in a minute. When was the last time you truly trusted the seafood that you brought home the nutrition, the taste, the sustainability. Sustainability. Introducing wild Alaskan company their seafood is 100% wild caught, never farmed. Which means no antibiotics, GMOs or additives. 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Bill from Brooklyn
Thank you. Thank you for having me. Very happy to be here today.
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Maureen Callahan
We are very happy to have you back. Now we've been waiting to have this conversation with you about the Olympics in particular I really wanted to talk to you about Lindsey Vaughan. We're going to take a look at her crashing at the Olympics. She was skiing on a torn acl. She has already aged out of this. And she injured herself so gravely that for a minute there, there was speculation that she might actually need to have part of her leg amputated. This story has been covered in the mainstream media as a kind of hero's story, like a hero's journey. But you see it differently, and I'm very eager for you to share your thoughts with all of us.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Ski at her limit. The tone is set right here.
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Maureen Callahan
Taking a look at it right now at her crash out at the Olympics. And she's just there on her.
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Bill from Brooklyn
I mean, anybody that's ever watched sports knows that someone with an acl, you're not playing. I mean, we've seen some great NBA players come off the court immediately knowing it's over.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah. That's when you see them really crying. It's not so much even from the physical pain as it is knowing like their season is over, if not their career.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah. And for anyone to think that she was going to make it down a hill at 80 miles an hour with two 4 inches skis attached to her legs or whatever, however wide they are, to me it was just selfish. Like there's. There's a kid someplace in the United States that was the last one caught from the Olympic ski team, from the women's ski team. Could have been that kid's only shot at ever making an Olympic team. Dedicated the last four years of her life and she lost out because Lindsey Vaughn was too narcissistic, too, too much of an egomaniac and had to be there. Even after knowing her knee wasn't going to hold up, she still had to try to go down that mountain.
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Maureen Callahan
Bill, what kind of, what kind of drugs do you think she was on in order to do that? Anyone who's had a torn ACL or even like a torn meniscus knows, like in the, in the immediate aftermath of a tear like that, you're lucky if you can even put weight on it. You know, she's not superhuman. She's a human being. So she had to be on some kind of drugs. Right.
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Bill from Brooklyn
There's got to be some type of numbing agent that goes through it.
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Maureen Callahan
I mean, I did numbing. Right. I mean, let's just, let's just talk real talk.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah. No, I mean, when I say numbing agent, like you're not feeling a thing through that leg and that, that, that can actually be more dangerous because you feel normal, you behave normal. But if you watch that video, in the first couple seconds as she's coming down out of the gate and she goes off the first little hill and there's a little jump, you see her land on her left foot, and she keeps her right foot in the air. Her ski comes down a second later, and you could tell it's in her mind that she can't put that kind of weight, that kind of pressure on her foot if she knows that going into it at the very beginning of it, she has no business on that mountain. And to me, it just. I mean, we're going to sit here and we're going to question the decision making, but this is also someone who decided it was a good idea to date Tiger woods when he was in the middle.
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Maureen Callahan
Hey, by the way, have you seen the. Tiger woods is bitching and moaning that his latest flame, his latest squeeze, Vanessa Trump, is too insecure and clingy for him.
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Bill from Brooklyn
No, I haven't been following it, but,
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Maureen Callahan
you know, I guess when you're, like, removing tampons with your mouth from, like, you know, waitress number number 85 in the parking lot at a Denny's, you know, your. Your girlfriends of a certain caliber might be a little needy and clingy.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, I just. I guess she has such a need. My. My opinion, she has such a need to be famous for anything.
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Maureen Callahan
Lindsey Vaughn, you mean?
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yes. Yeah. That she'll just. She'll go out there and at 40 years old, like, she could have been a commentator. They were. Any news channel.
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Maureen Callahan
Exactly. I mean, not anybody can be a commentator. It's. Some of. Some of them can't do it. But, you know, we're watching Tom Brady struggling, you know, but that could have absolutely been a career path for her, a color commentator at the Olympics or at other winter sports. The other thing that bugs. Bugs me to your point is, you know, she's been doing all of these a. It's not just Lindsey Vonn's unilateral decision. I'm gonna go. I think the IOC has a lot to answer for here, as does NBC at these big institutions that need stars and that need stories. And what better story is it than an Olympian against the odds, trying to come back even after she's retired and aged out? Like they all have a vested interest into. Your point, squeezing out that kid who. This may have been their one and only shot to give it to Lindsey effing Vaughn for the eight millionth time. We all knew what was going to happen when she said, I'm scared skiing on my torn acl.
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Bill from Brooklyn
No, I, I don't know anybody who had an expectation she was gonna even finish a race, let alone medal in anything. It's just. It was ridiculous. And it was. I, I, you know, I love the Olympics because the Olympics, to me, it's about the purity of the sport and competition, and there's. There's nothing else there. There's. I mean, you hope that somebody makes some money off their name at some point, but it's really just, you want to be the best in the world. And this wasn't that. This was someone struggling to remain relevant. And, you know, it cost her a great deal. It cost someone else. But, hey, you know, she's got a lot of great, you know, social media poses from the hospital bed. Right, that.
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Maureen Callahan
I was just gonna say that. Okay. Have you ever suffered, like, a sports. I know you suffered sports injuries. I've had to had, have surgery after, like, breaking a bone, whatever. The last thing I would think to do is put on some false eyelashes, smack on some makeup, get my lighting correct, possibly get a ring light in place, and then do a social media post from my bed when I've got, like, metal rods sticking out of my legs every which way. Hey, call me crazy. That's just me.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah. I mean, I could remember when I was younger and I got knocked out and broke my leg playing hockey.
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Maureen Callahan
I remember that.
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Bill from Brooklyn
I'm glad there were no cameras around to capture that and the aftermath.
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Maureen Callahan
That was a bad break. You were. You were laid up for a while with that.
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Bill from Brooklyn
That's not. That's not something people, normal people, in my opinion, would. Would want to put out there for the world to see.
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Maureen Callahan
Hey, we're advancing the story, by the way, before we get to the men's hockey team, the USA Hockey team, which has among its members a native of Long Beach, New York, which is where you and I grew up. And it's such a great story. And he's such, like, the pride of Long beach, which is also produced, not for nothing, Billy Crystal, native of Long Beach, New York. You and I. Well, you knew this well before I did, but I only learned, like, five years ago. There's another Olympian from Long beach who is one of our cousins we are related to. His name is Tom Farrell. He medaled in the 1968 Olympics in track. And I remember, I was like, is this the most Irish thing? Like, we just don't talk about, like, a star in our family. I'm like, how is it? I'M just learning this now. I should have grown up learning all about my cousin who made it to the Olympics and got a medal.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, I mean, I vaguely remember hearing about it, and it was just kind of said in passing, but, you know, Irish Catholic, growing up, 70s and the 80s, we didn't really talk about much.
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Maureen Callahan
They don't even talk about him now. They don't even talk about him now. During the Olympics, you think he'd be all over the family thread.
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Bill from Brooklyn
I know. Listen, it's a. It's a cool, fun fact, and to have somewhere in the DNA that somebody was an Olympian.
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Maureen Callahan
Yes, I agree. Tom, we're very proud of you here at the nerve.
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Bill from Brooklyn
100%.
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Maureen Callahan
Want to meet you someday. Never even met the guy. Okay, so the men's hockey team now, Connor Story, who. We're going to show a clip from this because. Because who is the guy whose tooth got knocked out? Was it Jack Hughes?
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, Jack Hughes. Okay.
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Maureen Callahan
I love this guy. I love this guy. So Connor Story is this young actor who's having a moment because he is in the hit HBO show Heated Rivalry. Do you know about the show, Bill?
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Bill from Brooklyn
No, I don't.
- [68:39]
Maureen Callahan
Okay, so it's about two gay hockey players. I think one plays for Russia and one plays for the United States, and they fall in love.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Okay.
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Maureen Callahan
Okay. So he's having a moment, and he was hosting SNL this week, and he brought out Jack and Quinn Hughes from the USA men's hockey team. And then a couple of other Olympians, gold medalists, came out, and we'll see that. And I just want to show this, and then you and I will talk about it, because even the, like, there's a. There's a certain kind of audience that SNL attracts, and it's a kind of audience that you might not think would traffic in just, like, unilateral. Like, it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, like, your country wins gold. It's a win. And we're all proud and patriotic and psyched that Americans won. So let's take a look. Here we go.
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Bill from Brooklyn
And then I'm watching the Olympics, and
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Maureen Callahan
I see these amazing players, and I'm like, I don't think I pulled it off. Whoa. Whoa. I love that this guy didn't get, like, his tooth is still broken. No way, man.
- [69:51]
Bill from Brooklyn
I hear you're great.
- [69:52]
Maureen Callahan
Whoa.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Quinn and Jack, you guys literally just won the Olympics.
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Maureen Callahan
Congrats.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Thanks. We've been so busy playing, we haven't had time to see your show yet. It's about hockey, Right? Kind of. I got my teeth knocked out in the finals. Does that happen in your show? Metaphorically. Cool.
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Timothy Chalamet
What team do you play on?
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Maureen Callahan
The Boston Raiders.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Boston Raiders. What league is that? The NHL, the hbo. But you guys should check it out. Oh, I hope some hockey players watched it.
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Maureen Callahan
And then here come two of the stars of the women's hockey team, which also won gold. And I just love this whole thing. Bill, tell me. I think you were watching the. We can end it here, you guys. I think you were watching the men's hockey in real time.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, yeah, I got up. I got up to watch it. It was.
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Maureen Callahan
You did?
- [71:02]
Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
What time did it. What time did it start? 8:00am 8:00am Eastern time.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
And so this was a weekend, I'm guessing.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, it was Sunday morning.
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Maureen Callahan
And so, like, talk to me about that moment when this kid, like, gets his tooth knocked out and, like, just comes back up swinging.
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Bill from Brooklyn
So there's. There's more to it, too, because it's a 46th anniversary of the Miracle on Ice when we beat the Soviets. Right. So you have that. You also have. There's. There's a rivalry that is developed between Team USA and Team Canada. It goes back to the. Another tournament that was played, I don't remember if it was late last year, earlier last year, Four nations tournament, where the Canadian fans booed during the American national anthem. And the American was this.
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Maureen Callahan
Do you remember?
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Bill from Brooklyn
This was about six months ago a year. I'm not. I'm not certain. It was four nations tournament, and it was fantastic. So during that tournament, the Canadian fans booed the national anthem because of politics and three American players in the first nine seconds of the fight. Of the game. There were three fights in the first nine seconds of the game. And it was the American players saying, you're not going to boo our national anthem. And it was, you know, nobody hates Canada. Nobody. You know, it's just. It's a rival there, right? It's like. No, it's. It's like the Yankees and the Red Sox. A rivalry developed because of the fans and because of outside, you know, circumstances. But it's a great rivalry. Everybody has nothing but respect for those players from Canada. And it was a great game. And they probably beat us on a different day, but not that day. Not the gold medal day. We won. And you watch this kid go out there, you watch him get hit in the face with a stick, knocked down, gets up, blood dripping, teeth missing, and he stays out there. In a time when we have guys in the NBA making $50 million a year that take a rest day a day to rest their body. And this guy just lost his teeth and stays out there and scores the golden goal. Like, you can't be any more proud than to watch that happen.
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Maureen Callahan
You know why? I also think this resonates and like, just goes beyond the Olympics and sports and into pop culture. The way it has is we live in an era of trigger warnings, safe spaces, gen zers who bring their mommies to their job interviews. And we want to go back to a time like the muscular Herculean 1980s, the era of Rocky and Arnold Schwarzenegger. And we're tough and we win and we, we get knocked down and we get bloodied and battered and we're missing teeth and f you, we're getting up and we're going to win this thing. And I think that's why this kid has just captured everybody's hearts.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, I mean, it goes back to the last conversation we had when I, when I was on the show last. I forget his name. Willy Wonka. The new American Ding dong. Yeah. I mean, he's not getting his teeth out and getting back up. I'm sorry, it's not happening.
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Maureen Callahan
And 100%, you know, that whole team
- [74:12]
Bill from Brooklyn
got up and then, you know, the way they won that game and they played their hearts out. Everybody gave everything on the ice. And I don't, I don't care, you know, if you're a sports fan, every sports fan knows there's no better sport than playoff hockey. The only thing I've ever seen better than playoff hockey is Olympic hockey.
- [74:31]
Maureen Callahan
This is that.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Why is that Hockey players are just the toughest there are. And during the playoffs, it's. Everything is on the line. It is the fastest moving game, hard to keep up with, just keeping track of the puck on the ice. Everybody's giving everything. They have 110% speed. They play till their teeth fall out. Like you see it. And it's just, it's all out there for, for, for everything. In a time when too many athletes are more worried about the money they're going to make and, you know, you don't see that from these guys. And you didn't, you didn't see it through this Olympics from either team. You know, the Canadians played a hell of a game too, and it just, you know, we got the better of them on this day.
- [75:16]
Maureen Callahan
So I want to move on to something that is not related to sports, but that has also captured the world. I think this is currently the biggest star in the world. And I Speak of Punch the monkey in the Japanese zoo, and we're going to look at some photos here. Punch is a baby monkey whose mother rejected him and whose tribe troop. I forget what you call a group of monkeys, has rejected him. And so the. The. The zookeepers bought this little guy a stuffed animal at ikea, a stuffed monkey. And he's been seen carrying it around, dragging it around, hugging it, snuggling with it, using it for comfort. I want to roll a little bit. We're going to look at one other thing before I show you this real. Bill. I don't know if you saw this in the paper the other day or online, but in Washington Square Park, a bunch of artists got together and they built a huge Punch statue out of snow. And we're gonna show it right now. Look at it. It's punching his stuffed animal, hugging in front of the arch at Washington Square Park. It's incredible. And then I'm gonna show you this clip of Jon Stewart, that asshole on Punch the Monkey, and then you and I are gonna talk about Punch. Here we go.
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Bill from Brooklyn
But clearly, there is probably something wrong with that monkey. Please. I say this.
- [76:52]
Maureen Callahan
John's mugging. Hear me out.
- [76:54]
Bill from Brooklyn
I understand, and it's adorable, and he's breaking my heart. But that being said, who are we
- [77:03]
Maureen Callahan
to question the wisdom of the tribe? No, I. I'm just saying they're the ones that know him best. They've decided he's problematic.
- [77:20]
Bill from Brooklyn
What the.
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Maureen Callahan
You know, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done with Jon Stewart. He's trying so hard to grasp onto what his career was back when he was at the height of the Daily Show. I just. I. It's a baby monkey, like, who's looking for a hug. Like, that tells me a lot more about Jon Stewart's psyche than I clearly really want to know. Bill, what do you make of this story? What do you make of Punch going viral? Global superstar Punch?
- [77:50]
Bill from Brooklyn
I. Listen. What? John. John. So we're just looking for clickbait. I mean, he might have got away. The first line might have been funny. But then they just doubled down. I mean, the first line was, okay, Punch, though, is. Punch is funny because this monkey has united people all over the world. Like, I've read comments on. On some of the social media posts, and you have people talking about invading Japan to right the wrongs that's happening with Punch, and everybody just wants to see him do well and be okay. It's. It's pretty sad. And I was. I was talking to Emma this week My stepdaughter in. In medical school, I forgot him studying
- [78:33]
Maureen Callahan
to be a vet.
- [78:34]
Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah. So she actually brought it up to her, to her professors who said that. To them, it's more of a sign that there's something not right within the environment that he's in that through him needing to keep that stuff, the orangutan is. There's not enough enrichment and enough to engage him or the rest of the monkeys. And that's part of the problem there. So I guess overall, you know, zoos and how animals are kept and treated, that. That could be part of it as well.
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Maureen Callahan
It's also an ultimate underdog story. Right. It's like Rudolph the red nosed reindeer. The unwanted becomes the most beloved.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, yeah. It's. I mean, it's. It is tough to watch see a baby monkey get tossed around by the
- [79:22]
Maureen Callahan
elder, pushed away by older. Like he's looking for a hug. I mean, punch is really. All of us, we just want to hug.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah. Yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
I mean, at the end of the day.
- [79:32]
Bill from Brooklyn
But you know what? You know, he's gonna grow up to be stronger and tougher and, you know, he'll be. He'll be the leader in that zoo one day.
- [79:39]
Maureen Callahan
He'll be the Jack Hughes of that Japanese zoo.
- [79:42]
Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah. Running around with a stick and a missing tooth.
- [79:45]
Maureen Callahan
That's exactly right. Okay, two more topics for you, Bill. I wanted to look at this with you and discuss. Kelly and Sharon Osbourne were on the red carpet at the Brit Awards. They were there for Ozzy, who died recently. He was being posthumously awarded the lifetime achievement award. This is February 28, 2026. Kelly Osborne in particular. Let's take a look at her on the red carpet. To know that people love him just as much as we did.
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Marty Supreme Girlfriend
And they're here giving us so much
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Maureen Callahan
grace and just support, and it's beautiful. Okay. She is absolutely skeletal. Absolutely. I. What are your theories about what's going on here? Because to go out in public like this, I don't. She clearly doesn't see what the rest of us see.
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Bill from Brooklyn
No, I mean, I. Listen, I want to be mean, but I mean, Ozzy looked better than she does. It's. She. If there was ever a reason to second guess or maybe pump the brakes on Ozempic or whatever it is she's taking. Like, we got to really take a look at what these drugs do to you before you go all in on them or whatever it else. She's. She looks like she's a stone throw from death.
- [81:05]
Maureen Callahan
She does. You know what? This reminds me of Bill. Do you remember when Lisa Marie Presley was on the red carpet for Baz Luhrmann's Elvis? I think it was at the Golden Globes. And she looked like she was near death. People were like, she looks like she's near death. She had jaundiced skin. She had dead blurry eyes. She looked like she needed help just even standing up. That's what Kelly Osborne looks like. And I'm showing this and talking to you about this. Again, not to be mean at all, but I think it's very dangerous messaging when these people present in this way, which is a complete cry for help. And the media treats it like this is normal. She looks fine.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, no, it, it's not. It's. It's scary. I, I don't know how people close to her, like, we didn't show her
- [81:56]
Maureen Callahan
mother, her mother looks like, you know, just about as in, in, in dire physical shape as her daughter.
- [82:03]
Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, I mean, they, they, they should. The mirror image of her, it's just somebody. You would hope you had somebody in your life that would say, hey, you know, it's time to get some help.
- [82:14]
Maureen Callahan
If they do and they just don't hear it or they don't want to hear it. But this is one of the most obvious cries for help I think we've seen in a long time. You know, it looks like she also had. There's this thing that some young women do that is ill advised in my opinion, but it's called buccal fat removal. Do you know what this is?
- [82:32]
Bill from Brooklyn
Never heard of it.
- [82:33]
Maureen Callahan
Plastic surgeons will, like, surgically, they will suck out the skin. Skin between the bottom of your cheekbone and your jawbone. So it's supposed to give you like real angular cheekbones and just make you like, give you bone structure where maybe you were lacking before. You remember Kelly Osborne used to have all that puppy fat in her cheeks. She had like, no real definition, so it looks like she had that done. Plus she's on a GLP one that is accelerating her weight loss. I mean, even Sharon said a few months ago, like, she's on one and she can't stop losing weight and she doesn't want to lose any more weight. I think she went off of it.
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Bill from Brooklyn
Listen, there's a need for it for people right there.
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Maureen Callahan
GLP ones, you mean not buccal fat removal?
- [83:19]
Bill from Brooklyn
No, not buckle fat, remember? I've never heard of that. I don't know why people, I don't know why people go through all the things they do for plastic surgery, but there's a health reason. I guess it's like any medicine, right? There's a health reason for it, but it's. It's the abuse and I guess the doctors that will just so easily prescribe it to anyone who.
- [83:37]
Maureen Callahan
I mean, she's got to be going to a doctor, one would think, to get her, you know, replenishment of this prescription and see how we're going on this. She's got a doctor. This is Hollywood for you. This is like a Michael Jackson doctor. It's like, oh, you want some more Profanol, Propanol, Whatever it was he was taking, we'll give it to you. You want some more GLP1. Kelly, you're wasting away. You look like you've got stage four terminal cancer. Will give it to you.
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Bill from Brooklyn
He does. I mean, honestly, I didn't see this before you sent me the link to that article with them. And I would think even a street dealer selling narcotics on the side of the road and even question whether they should continue selling to someone with that appearance. There's something so wrong.
- [84:20]
Maureen Callahan
Physically, mentally, emotionally.
- [84:24]
Bill from Brooklyn
Yeah, but I mean, even, like, they really appear to be, you know, not long for this world.
- [84:30]
Maureen Callahan
No, they do. They do.
- [84:31]
Bill from Brooklyn
The path they're on.
- [84:32]
Maureen Callahan
They do. Okay, last subject, which I've been dying to get to you about, we're going to show three little clips of Brooke Shields talking to Howard Stern. This was several years ago, but now that Love Story is the monster hit that it is on Hulu and FX. We've got to revisit it. JFK Jr. Took Brooke Shields out on a date. Brooke Shields, remember, famously throughout most of her time, even at Princeton, was publicly a virgin.
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Reese Witherspoon
She.
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Maureen Callahan
She was not sort of the usual girl in Hollywood. So they went on a date while they were skiing. They were all sort of around the same resort. And this is Brooke retelling her experience with JFK Jr. Who you and I grew up in New York. And always the line on him and all the tabloids, nicest guy, nicest good guy. You would never know he came from where he came from. Here we go.
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Brooke Shields
Went out. I was invited with the family. He kept saying I looked like his mother, which was really interesting and a compliment. It was also like, I don't know how to feel about this.
- [85:49]
Maureen Callahan
Then they go on the date. They're. They're back at JFK Junior Chalet in Aspen, and they, they. He kisses her, and she's really into it, but he wanted to have sex with her, and she wouldn't do it. And Howard got. Get some more Details out of her. Here we go. You're in the room with them.
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Bill from Brooklyn
You kiss him. It's the best kiss of your life.
- [86:11]
Brooke Shields
I froze, though, because it was so precious to me. And I was like, oh, my God, you're falling in love. And if you sleep with him, he may not talk to you again. And you can't handle that.
- [86:22]
Maureen Callahan
Right?
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Bill from Brooklyn
You were.
- [86:23]
Maureen Callahan
You were smart.
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Bill from Brooklyn
You did the kiss.
- [86:26]
Maureen Callahan
And then he probably wanted to go right to the sack.
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Brooke Shields
Absolutely.
- [86:29]
Maureen Callahan
He's like, come on, let's go.
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Bill from Brooklyn
And you're like, no, no, no.
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Maureen Callahan
We're moving a little fast.
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Brooke Shields
Yeah. And I thought. I wasn't playing a game. I really was just. I was so afraid of being really hurt.
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Maureen Callahan
Okay, again, here's this girl who has been covered from the time she was an infant model, a baby model. Everyone in America knew she had been a virgin through much of her college career. So that includes JFK Jr. Okay? She's not your average starlet slinging her shit around. So here's what happens. After Brooke Shields declines to have sex with him on the first date.
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Brooke Shields
I had to get a cab home now, which was a little less than chivalrous.
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Bill from Brooklyn
He should have. He should have gotten in a car and made sure you got home.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah.
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Brooke Shields
He didn't have to, though. He had women falling at his feet, and he didn't have to do anything for it, you know? So I saw him on the next day on the slope, and he didn't look at me, and he didn't talk to me. And on the one hand, I was like. On the other hand, I was like, oh, thank God. Thank God. Because he still might not have talked to you even if you had, and you would have given something that he wouldn't have under.
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Maureen Callahan
Like, cared about.
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Brooke Shields
And, you know, and he showed his two colors in that. We got stranded. We were all supposed to leave. We got snowed in, and he had to stay in my. The house my mom was renting. So then it was my mom and John. John and me in this. In this chalet. And. And it was just like.
- [88:11]
Maureen Callahan
This was surreal.
- [88:12]
Bill from Brooklyn
Did he finally talk to you in Salem?
- [88:15]
Maureen Callahan
Nope.
- [88:18]
Bill from Brooklyn
Bill? Yes. The Kennedy DNA runs deep, huh? Fits in with all the rest of them.
- [88:25]
Maureen Callahan
Does any of that surprise you, though? Given we always. Really? None of it surprises you?
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Bill from Brooklyn
Why would it surprise anyone?
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Maureen Callahan
I mean, because people are still buying into this mythology and, like, the reason we're talking about this now is. I don't know. You're probably unaware, but there. Ryan Murphy has this miniseries going that's a huge hit. Right now, it's called Love Story. John F. Kennedy Jr. And Carolyn Bas. And they are treating it like it's this fairy tale. And he's like America's prince. And, you know, he's a really good, affable guy. He might be a little, you know, spacey and, like, entitled, but he's a really good guy. He's just John. He's just John. And here's this guy who, like, doesn't even have the ego to withstand a woman. She's sitting there, she's saying, like, I knew if I slept with him, I wouldn't recover from that. He must have been able to feel how intensely she was into him. And he's still pushing her for this. And she's like, I can't do it right now. It's date one. And he's like, f off. Get yourself home. And then the next day, they all get snowed in in the same chalet. And he won't speak to her. He won't look at her like a child.
- [89:36]
Bill from Brooklyn
But he still stayed there. They allowed him to stay there. So it's just. It all goes with, like, anybody.
- [89:47]
Maureen Callahan
Great point.
- [89:48]
Bill from Brooklyn
Would have been on the street, but they allowed him to. So he's going to have that behavior if people tolerate it, and that. That's what it is. I. I gotta tell you, though, I read. I read an article when you sent me this link. I read an article on people, and I could be mistaken.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah.
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Bill from Brooklyn
But I. I think I remember in the article, it's saying that it remained the best kiss of her life. And if I. If I am not mistaken again. And then the last part of the article was, it was, you know, updated where she was in her life, and she was married to her husband of 22 years. And all I could think of was, this woman put this out there publicly. Let you. Yet she's married, and I know that this guy was the best kiss of her life. Like, her husband's got to go to work the next day and face all of his friends. Everybody's going to see that. I mean, come on, That's. That's a tough one.
- [90:41]
Maureen Callahan
Well, he's a TV writer, so it's not like he's like, you know, a regular person. Go into the same. I remember by the way, her husband worked at MTV when I was like a baby, like, intern slash penns there. And nobody, like, everybody would be whispering like, can you believe that guy is dating Brooks? Like, nice guy, but he wasn't like a JFK junior. You know what I mean? But I think that that goes to, you know, even, you know, Carly Simon once said this and I do think it's true. Like she said, nobody cares about celebrities more than other celebrities. And I think that for Brooke Shields, she really bought into that Camelot, JFK Jr. Mythology. And maybe he was the one that got away instead of being like, wow, I dodged a bullet. Because that guy wound up killing his wife and his sister in law in a wholly avoidable plane crash that may or may not have been a murder suicide. Wow, bullet dodged. Also, Madonna said he was terrible in bed because he never had to work for it.
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Bill from Brooklyn
I, listen, I don't, I don't know what to say about that. But may, you know, maybe there is something to that where, you know, for the regular person and you run into a celebrity in the street. It's, it's, it's exciting. It's wow. The wow factor. But if you are the celebrity, who are you looking up to? Who's the other people?
- [91:54]
Maureen Callahan
Brook Shields was star struck by him, right?
- [91:56]
Bill from Brooklyn
So, and there, there couldn't have been many that would make her feel starstruck. So it's, it's, I, I guess it's that, you know, there's, it's someone
- [92:08]
Maureen Callahan
that's really smart. You're totally right about that. You're totally right about that. That's why we have you on Bill. You have all these insights that just sort of come sideways and you hear them and you're like, yeah, he's right. He's absolutely right. By the way, no pressure, but the troublemakers really want you on the Oscars livestream. I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna put it out there. For those of you who might wanna try to sway Bill taking his daughter and his wife to a Knicks game that night. The Knicks game is starting at 8. The Nerve Studio is like a five minute walk from the Garden. We're trying to convince Bill to get here early for the top part of the oscars livestream around 6. So please exert your very gentle pressure on convincing Bill to join the Oscars livestream. Cause we really want him here. That's it. Thanks for joining us.
- [92:57]
Bill from Brooklyn
Thank you for having me. It was a lot of fun.
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Maureen Callahan
All right, talk to you soon.
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Bill from Brooklyn
See you later.
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Maureen Callahan
And that's it. That's it for our Friday edition of the Nerve. Come back and see us tomorrow for the mini that drops on YouTube at 10am Eastern. If you haven't already, check out our substack@thenerveshow.com be sure to subscribe plus nerve merch grab something for yourself or pick something up for a fellow troublemaker atshopthe nerve.com you can also listen to the Nerve every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 9am Eastern on Megan's Podcast Playlist, which you can find on Sirius XM channel 111 the Megyn Kelly channel. We will see you tomorrow for the Mini and then again next week right here at the Nerve, where you'll never guess what we're about to say next.
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