Taylor Swift's Spell Over Travis Kelce, Jack Schlossberg's Nepo Campaign, and Tom Brady's Gucci Runway Walk

Summary

The Nerve with Maureen Callahan: Taylor Swift's Spell Over Travis Kelce, Jack Schlossberg's Nepo Campaign, and Tom Brady's Gucci Runway Walk

Date: May 19, 2026
Host: Maureen Callahan (MK Media)
Featured Guest: Bill from Brooklyn

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Nerve is a sweeping, sharp, and often scathing pop culture roundup that takes listeners through the blurred boundary between celebrity, politics, sports, and media. Maureen Callahan takes on the Kennedy dynasty's latest political hopeful, Jack Schlossberg, dissecting his background, privilege, and chaotic campaign. She then ricochets through the spectacle of Tom Brady’s Gucci runway walk, scrutinizes the Taylor Swift–Travis Kelce romance, and dissects recent sports and media scandals—always with her trademark mix of humor, skepticism, and zero-filter candor.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Jack Schlossberg’s Nepo Campaign: Dynasties, Delusion, and Media Enabling

[08:25–46:13]

The Kennedy Legacy and Jack Schlossberg’s Background

• Maureen deep dives into the New York Times’ coverage of Jack Schlossberg, grandson of JFK, announcing his run for Congress in NYC.
• She contrasts two NYT pieces: Maureen Dowd’s glowing, credulous November 2025 profile and Nick Fandos' bombshell May 2026 exposé on Schlossberg’s erratic, inexperienced campaign.
• Dissects Schlossberg’s privilege (“jobless man in his mid-30s living luxuriously…never had a real job…going to give politics a try?” [09:57]).

Critique of Media’s Softball Treatment

• Slams legacy media for fawning over Schlossberg due to his last name.
• Calls out Maureen Dowd for “court stenographer” behavior and soft questions about Schlossberg’s wealth and experience ([12:25]).
• Mocks Schlossberg's acting ambitions: “He’s a failed actor. This is why we are now being made to suffer through this bullshit. He was toying with being an actor again. JFK Jr. wanted to be an actor. The world would have been a lot better off.” [14:54]

The Fandos Exposé & Campaign Meltdown

• New reporting reveals Schlossberg’s campaign is unfocused, with the candidate described as erratic (“Abruptly announced a change of plans…he needed a nap. He then effectively disappeared for the day, leaving his team reeling.” [22:08])
• Maureen: “Erratic is often code for heavy drug use. I did a column on this.” [23:32]
• Highlights how previous Kennedy eccentricity is no longer excusable.

Schlossberg in His Own Words: “Flawless” Campaign?

• Audio clips of Schlossberg in TV interviews where he denies reports, dodges questions, and claims a “flawless campaign.” [27:10–30:43]
• Quote: “In terms of the reports in that New York Times article that you're referencing…Not true.” – Jack Schlossberg [27:19]
• Maureen’s retort: “He’s a liar. That is a lie. Shame on you, Jen [Psaki]...[The Times] is fact checked and legaled eight ways to Sunday.” [27:28–28:42]
• Documents Schlossberg’s disturbing social media posts, including antisemitism, misogyny, and bizarre online behavior [31:00–35:14].

Out-of-Touch Nepotism

• Schlossberg’s answer to “how do you relate to money?”: “I lost a lot of relatives in my life way too young and they left me money. That money is in trusts…” [35:22]
• Maureen skewers his self-pity and detachment from reality.

Kennedy Dynasty in Decline

• Quotes readers and family members disavowing Schlossberg; “He is a well-connected drifter waiting for the butler to open the door to whatever he wants to do.” [20:12]
• “If Mr. Schlossberg can't find the time to campaign or take policy briefs amidst a family tragedy, maybe it's not the time for him to seek office.” [41:05]

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2. Gucci, Tom Brady, and Fashion’s Spectacle

[47:06–49:30]

• Maureen recounts Tom Brady’s awkward runway appearance at the Gucci 2027 show: “Tom Brady…is looking more and more like an AI version of a former football star…so stiff…like Elvis…but Tom Brady looks like a eunuch.” [47:14]
• Amusing vignettes: Mariah Carey at Gucci, her retinue tending to her “like a paraplegic;” Paris Hilton’s “highly flammable” wig; Cindy Crawford’s feathered getup—read as part of a wider, bizarre trend in high fashion.

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3. Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce: Neutered by Love?

[60:53–65:44]
With Bill from Brooklyn

The Podcasted Romance

• Discussion moves to the “New Heights” podcast, where Travis Kelce gushes about how dating Taylor Swift made him “a smarter man.”
• Quote: “She makes me so much better, Bill.” – Travis Kelce [61:51]
• Bill’s sharp rejoinder: “Did he go to the same doctor as Prince Harry to get neutered?” [61:56] “He’s the lap dog…fully neutered. This guy’s supposed to be a major football player…sitting there with, like, his hands in his lap. Taylor makes me…” [65:40]

Relationship Analysis & Media Strategy

• Both Maureen and Bill agree Taylor is attempting a rebrand, aligning herself with a “middle America” image via Travis—counterbalancing negative headlines around A-listers like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. [63:35]
• They question the longevity (“18 months”) and authenticity of the pairing.

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4. Sports, Scandal, and Redemption Narratives

[65:45–88:32]
With Bill from Brooklyn

Ryan Lochte’s Downfall

• Lochte’s descent from Olympic stardom to $30k assistant coach job is recounted, with emphasis on “Lochtegate” and the Rio Olympics robbery lie.
• “He looks pretty rough…not aging well…$30,000, that's poverty level.” [69:55]
• Maureen: “Ryan Lochte walked so Jesse Smollett could run…” [69:42]

Tiger Woods’ “Rehab” and the Myth of Celebrity Change

• Tiger Woods spotted returning from “rehab” in Europe, dogs in tow: skepticism abounds about the reality of his rehabilitation.
• “He’s a total piece of shit…and I can’t wait to have you back on when Tiger gives his first interview about how he’s all reformed now.” [73:30]

Knicks Fans vs. Sixers (NBA Playoffs)

• Bill narrates Knicks fans flooding Philadelphia’s arena, thwarting ticket restrictions by the Sixers. [74:08]
• “They…turned Philadelphia stadium into Madison Square Garden south…most dominant basketball in six games in my life.” [78:11]

The Juicy Mike Vrabel–Diana Rossini Saga

• Alleged multi-year affair between NFL coach and sports reporter, denials from all parties, and the spectacle of media spin.
• Quote: “Two people get caught having an affair, no one cares about the affair…But then you get that arrogant missile from both of their camps: ‘We’re not even going to dignify this with a response.’” – Bill [81:07]
• Maureen speculates that Rossini's husband "should demand genetic testing," unpacks layers of humiliation, and explores the open-marriage angle. [84:34–85:57]

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5. Pop Culture & Morality: Michael Jackson’s Legacy

[88:53–90:33]

• Bill’s unambiguous take on the Michael Jackson controversy:
• Quote: “100%…No man should be in bed with little kids, with other little kids…You just shouldn't be.” [89:25; 89:29]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “He’s a failed actor. This is why we are now being made to suffer through this bullshit.” – Maureen [14:54]
• “Erratic is often code for heavy drug use.” – Maureen [23:32]
• “She makes me so much better, Bill.” – Travis Kelce [61:51]
• “He's the lap dog…fully neutered. This guy’s supposed to be a major football player…he’s fully neutered.” – Bill [65:40]
• “Ryan Lochte walked so Jesse Smollett could run…” – Maureen [69:42]
• “They…turned Philadelphia stadium into Madison Square Garden south.” – Bill [78:11]
• “If Mr. Schlossberg can't find the time to campaign or take policy briefs amidst a family tragedy, maybe it's not the time for him to seek office.” – Listener comment read aloud [41:05]
• “100%…No man should be in bed with little kids, with other little kids…You just shouldn't be.” – Bill [89:25; 89:29]

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Memorable Moments

• Maureen's unfiltered rants about dynasty privilege and media complicity, particularly with the Kennedys.
• The recurring joke about celebrity “neutering”—from Prince Harry to Travis Kelce.
• Fashion takes that blend pop culture savvy and biting humor (e.g., Tom Brady's Gucci “AI version of a former football star” [47:14]).
• Bill’s heartfelt (and hilarious) sports commentary, especially on New Yorkers outmaneuvering Philly fans, and his fascination with the Vrabel-Rossini drama.
• Real talk on Michael Jackson: a rare, unequivocal stance in a divided discourse.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Jack Schlossberg & Kennedy Dynasty Takedown: 08:25–46:13
• Gucci Runway Recap: 47:06–49:30
• Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Discussion: 60:53–65:44
• Sports/Scandal Segment (Lochte, Tiger Woods, Knicks, Vrabel): 65:45–88:32
• Michael Jackson Conversation: 88:53–90:33

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Tone and Language

• Maureen Callahan’s tone is punchy, irreverent, skeptical, and deeply engaged with both pop and news cultures.
• Frequent salty language and no-holds-barred critique.
• Bill matches with witty, sports-insider banter and pop culture knowledge.

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In Summary

True to its tagline, “conversations no one else dares to have,” The Nerve’s May 19, 2026 episode is a provocative, rapid-fire tour through American fame, privilege, and dysfunction—punctuated by acerbic wit and journalistic rigor. A must-listen for pop culture buffs and media skeptics alike.

Transcript

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We have a banger to begin the week with. First, we've got a Kennedy Nepo spawn who's out here in these streets asking for it. And you know what? I'm telling you guys, the Nerve is moving the culture because not long ago the New York Times Glow up profile for the ages written by a hack. We're going to revisit last week. You know what the New York Times did? Took this one to the woodshed. Woodshed. We know we've got troublemakers over at the New York Times. We know we're going to get into it. Then we've got a great, a great B block Gucci had had a show in New York City over the weekend. When I tell you you will never look at Tom Brady the same way again. You will never look at Tom Brady the same way again. We've got more. We're going, we're doing something very serious about the Today show because those fuckers have learned nothing from what happened to Savannah's mother. And I mean nothing. Then we've got troublemaker feedback followed by an OG Bill from Brooklyn is back. Because there was so much happening in culture, like the sports world just colliding with pop culture. We're gonna be talking Travis and Taylor, we're gonna be talking about Tiger woods and the tell. You know, he just got back to the States from quote unquote, rehab in Europe. Flying back private Bill and I both caught the same detail that leads both of us to believe this guy has learned nothing. He doesn't give a shit. He just wants to keep rolling SUVs all over the state of Florida. Also, Bill has an obsession, like an obsession with the Mike Vrabel Diana Rossini affair. And I was like, listen, I'm happy to talk to you about this all day long, but maybe we should just do it on the nerve and that might help you really work it out. Okay? So it's going to be so fun. And by the way, I can hear some of you now. Yes, I am without hair and makeup. I'm coming to you from a remote location and I'll talk to you about why in the B block as well. Troublemakers. It is time. Are you ready? 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But I'm, I'm saying this because, you know, I just asked Marlena, I said, how is this guy up? He's. And she said, yeah, he's up by 9% in the polls. When you see this, you won't be able to unsee it. New Yorkers, especially we at the Nerve, are talking to you. There's nothing we can't do. Okay, we got Timothy Shamalama ding dong denied an Oscar. I think we can roll this trick. Okay, now before and again, the Nerve is moving the culture because we're going to look at a New York Times piece from last November, and then we're going to look at a New York Times piece about this guy from last week. And they're markedly different. The piece published on November 11, 2025. Again, that is a very. That is a hallowed month for the Kennedys. That is the month that JFK was assassinated. That is the month that was John F. Kennedy Jr's birthday for Jacqueline Onassis. She, she said forevermore. November was her hardest month. November is a hallowed month. So none of this timing is an accident. The headline, New York Times, Jack Schlossberg, social media provocateur gives politics a try. That headline is everything. This guy, he's. But mind you, he's 33 years old, he's in his mid-30s. He, he's never had a real job, ever. He's going to give politics a try? Why not? Why shouldn't he just give something that serious a try? Guess who it was written by, our favorite hack here at the Nerve, Maureen Dowd. I'm going to read you what she quote unquote wrote. You know, again, this feels like it's AI generated. AI generated. And then Maureen will often use phrases that she thinks like the kids still use to make her sound hip. Mr. Schlossberg's great grandfather, Joseph Kennedy, my aside, a monster who, among other things, forcibly lobotomized his beautiful daughter Rosemary, leaving her with the mental and physical capacities of a two year old to live out her life alone on the other side of the country, never told the other Kennedy children what became of her. Maureen's description, and I quote, was the OG media influencer figuring out a formula for alchemizing. Oh, she loves fancy word alchemizing. His family's great hair, great teeth. Again, as discussed, they do not have great teeth. Their teeth are large and equine like and lace curtain glamour into political power. Now, Maureen went over to Jack's apartment. And it's well known in New York City where Jack lives. And it is a ritzy, ritzy apartment complex. Nicole Kidman once lived there. We at the Nerve have at least one friend who lives there. It's pricey, it's expensive. So again, we've got a jobless man in his mid-30s who's rolling around in a luxurious apartment in a very, very fashionable part of Manhattan. Do you think Maureen Dowd asked about that? Like, hey, Jack, how do you afford this? How does your understanding of work and how far the average dollar goes in New York City, where rents are through the roof? Do you know what the average rent monthly in New York City is right now? That's $5,000. And that gets you a fucking hovel. Hey, Jack, what's, what's your. What's your understanding of that? How average people live, how working class people live? No, no, we are just swooning. This is the whole point. Adult Jack invited you over to his apartment so you would be even more favorably inclined to him and charmed by him. This is what she writes. I swear, I. There's a lot of John F. Kennedy Jr. Here. And we're going to get into it, okay? A lot of, like I. I can draw. I can draw a direct coral. I'm going to draw a direct line. Maureen writes, Jack's bookcase. Contains. That's weird. Contains, like on the shelves, right? Contains, I don't know, a biography of President Kennedy by his speechwriter, Ted Sorenson. My aside, AKA a blowjob, okay? Ted Sorenson was in love with jfk, okay? In love with jfk and often just denied that he wrote Kennedy's most favorite, like, most well known. Excuse me, speeches. Ted Sorenson wrote, ask not. Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask not what your country can do for you. You know what I mean? Anyway, I go back to Maureen. This is what she writes. Straight ahead, no questions asked. Mr. Schlossberg, I hate the Times and they're honorifics. Just get rid of those things, okay? Schlossberg picked it up after a teacher at Collegiate, an all boys prep school in Manhattan, one of the priciest and most elite. My side was irritated that Jack was not paying attention during a lesson on the Kennedy administration and was ignorant of JFK's policy and Laos. Okay? Number one, JFK Jr. His friend and biographer Steve Gillen wrote in his book that when Steve was teaching a course on JFK and his involvement in Vietnam, that Junior not only knew nothing about his father's policies regarding Vietnam. But he had the balls, he had the fucking stones to challenge Stephen Klaas and say, you're wrong. You're wrong. It was my father. And have I done the reading? No, but it was my dad. You're wrong. And Steve was like, I'm not wrong. I'm. Do the reading. Read the passage we're discussing in class. You will see that I am not wrong. Hey, go watch Ken Burns's documentary on Vietnam, which is incredible, and you will see I'm not wrong. So Junior goes home, calls up one of his father's top advisors, comes back into class the next day and goes, steve, Steve, guess what, Junior here, you're wrong. I talked to one of my father's friends last night, and he said, you're wrong. And Steve in his book writes like, I just let it go. What was the point? My other comparison is directly to Prince Harry, who writes in spare. You know, he was getting an education. Eton educates kings and queens. Okay, no kings. Sorry. It's all boys educates kings. But Harry writes that one of his instructors was visibly frustrated with him for months. And finally he had like a come to Jesus with Harry. And he said, listen, you are a prince of the blood. How is it that your own family history and lineage interests you none? How is it. Why, why, why does Jack want to run? This is what Maureen writes. Clearly, she asked. This was Jack's answer, and that she sat there and went home like a good little court stenographer, a good little Kennedy stenographer, and wrote up her book report instead of saying, jack, you gotta have a better reason than this. You're gonna die. Mr. Schlossberg became an online presence when he was toying with being an actor. No, no, no, no, no. I take umbrage with the word toying. Jack was trying to become an actor. He was going on auditions. He probably had headshots and a whole thing and put did auditions on tape and in person. He's a failed actor. This is. This is why we are now being made to suffer through this bullshit. He's a failed actor. He was toying with being an actor again. JFK Jr wanted to be an actor. The world would have been a lot better off. Like his cousin, the White Lotus star Patrick Schwarzenegger, who we all know, per Rob's Rob Shooter's incredible reporting, is insanely jealous over in California because his father, Arnold Schwarzenegger, is spending way more time with. With his half brother, who he refuses to acknowledge, just like all of Maria Shriver's children, Joseph Baena. And the jealousy isn't that Arnold is spending a lot more time with this son who they clearly regard as a nothing. But actually, Joseph BA just won a major, major bodybuilding award and his career is on fire. And Patrick is having trouble. The White Lotus didn't launch him the way he thought it would. Anyway, over in New York, back here, Jack's been burning up about that. He couldn't book anything bigger than a cameo. Maureen writes as a police officer on Blue Blue Bloods. She writes, and I quote, that was as far as he got. A cameo is a cop on Blue Bloods. This kid can't even get a job as a body on Law and Order. You know, he's bad. She quotes Jack. I auditioned for a few things, a show on a streamer, playing a cowboy or something. A cowboy? Do you look at this guy and think like Taylor Sheridan's America, Get Real. And I didn't get any parts, he said, but I believed in myself as a performer. Again, the narcissism, the entitlement, the refusal to take the memo from the culture, from, from the industry at large. Hollywood said, hey, we don't care that you're a Kennedy suck. You can't pull this off. You're not an actor. But Jack says, just like Meghan Markle, I still believe in myself as a performer. There's so many delusion, delusional people running amok. We're going to get to Megan on the nerve at night. Okay, so Jack gets a cameo as a cop, and that's as far as he goes. And it led him to the social media realm, his failure, the acting world. Now, among the comments on Maureen's piece, this is sort of the canary in the coal mine because most of them were like, what an impressive young man continuing the tradition of Kennedy service. It's not about us. It's never been about us. It's about them and feeding their egos and believing that sitting in high elected office is their birthright. Should they go to school for it? No. Should they grind it out in like, local politics on, like a city council and do really unglamorous work? No, no, just give it to them. Just give it to them. But this one, this comment was the canary in the coal mine and it was perched right on top. And I quote, there is nothing politically or economically visionary about Schlossberg in this article. Yeah, Maureen, why don't you acknowledge that? Why don't you just ask a confrontational question? You're there to be an adversary. You're there to be oppositional. You're there for the rest of us. Ostensibly. But no, Maureen wants to be at the cockt parties. I continue with this reader's very astute comment. He is a well connected drifter waiting for the butler to open the door to whatever he wants to do. Now when I say the nerve is moving the culture, I'm not around. Last week the same New York Times published another story. And this thing is a bombshell, okay? This is some real fucking reporting. This is some real newsroom editorial decision making. Hey, this kid's done nothing with his life. In fact, the glamour jobs that he's been handed. Want to go work for your mom's friend John Kerry? Go work for him over at the State Department. Four months. He lasted four months. Hey, Anna Wintour says Jack, you want to be Vogue's political correspondent for the 2024 presidential campaign? Jack lasts six months. The new York Times headline, inside Jack Schlossberg's chaotic campaign to Revive Camelot, published May 14 by honorary troublemaker Nick Fandos. Nick, I loved your piece. This piece is so well reported. He's got multiple people on the record, off the record, you guys are going to love it. Settle in, we begin reviving. A political dynasty is best not left to chance. Spoiler alert. It's over. It's over. I continue. So on the morning that Jack Schlossberg, the grandson of John F. Kennedy, announced his campaign for a House seat in New York City, his team had a carefully choreographed plan. AIDS teed up calls with frenzied media outlets. Lot of media. Very interested to talk to this guy. Why? Because of his last name? No other reason. A guy without the Kennedy connections who's never held a job is not getting backing to run for his inaugural seat in Congress. Okay, Democratic luminaries also lined up and a roster of wealthy donors. The goal was to show that Mr. Schlossberg, a 33 year old heir known for his good looks and madcap social media musings. Nick, I'm going to take umbrage right there. Madcap social media musings. This guy is a menace online. He has said vile things about me. I don't consider what he says madcap. Do I take Jack, Jack Schlossberg seriously? No. Does anything he have to say hit me where I live? No. But it's not madcap, okay? The guy is unhinged. He's mentally unwell. My opinion. But everyone can see it, including, you know, as well reported, most members of the Kennedy family, Caroline and her child are not welcome on the Cape anymore, okay? They were once the standard bearers of the Kennedy family. No more. Persona's non grata. Okay? So anyway, the idea is that Jack was a serious candidate. Okay? Now, Nick continues hours into. Just hours into his day one launch. Day one. You are setting the tone for your campaign going forward. Day one is important. It might be the most important day aside from election day, Unless you get caught with your pants down. Jack Schlossberg, and I quote, abruptly announced a change of plans according to three people familiar with the events. Forget dialing for dollars. Mr. Schlossberg said he needed a nap. He needed a nappy nap. I continue. He then, effectively. That's a legalese. That's a legal term. Effectively disappeared. Trust me. All three sources, I guarantee you, told Nick the guy disappeared, and they couldn't get a hold of him. He then effectively disappeared for the day, leaving his team reeling. What was his team to say to all of these wealthy elite donors and Democratic Party stars and the media lined up to talk to this guy? I'm going to tell you something. This is behavior that is going to get coded as erratic in many of these reports and re. Reports. And as we troublemakers all know from Rob and. And. And Rob's time in. In news and publicity and working for these people and my time and tabloid media and investigative journalism and dealing with celebrity profiles. Erratic is often. And I'm not saying it is here, but erratic is often code for heavy drug use. I did a column on this over at the Daily Mail. It ran on the weekend. It's still up if you're interested. But this is my summation. Jack's joblessness and inherited wealth, once upon a time in the New York Times, that would have been framed as normal for a Kennedy. It's normal for a member of the noblesse. Noblesse oblige. Okay. Hey, I got a lot of money. You want to shoot me? Because I just want to give back to people. What else am I supposed to do? I don't need to work. I'm doing this because I care about you guys out there, which they don't. The erratic behavior, that would have been explained away as mere eccentricity. The Kennedys, you know, you get born into that family. You're famous from the. From the jump. You know, you got a lot of money. You got a lot of eyeballs on you. You're eccentric. You're eccentric. It's not erratic. It's eccentric. And his run for a powerful seat, one far beyond his political experience, which is none Zero. Zilch. Would surely have been framed by the Times as fulfilling his familial tradition, nay, obligation of public service to whom much is given in all of that. And I'm going to tell you something. He's going to say these exact same things over at an interview at Vanity Fair that we're going to watch. That was, that was conducted by the editor in chief. The newly installed editor in chief. Another Anna. Pick another Anna winner. Rob and I are going to talk about this on the Nerve at night tomorrow. And he uses this exact same script. And you know the reason why I could predict that script? Because it's, It's Kennedy Boilerplate 101. Boilerplate 101. This well sourced piece depicts a man child of a faded realm who expects to coast to victory through knee jerk endorsements. Nancy Pelosi, advice from party kingmakers. That's Ron Klain, former chief of staff to President Biden, saw focus profiles in the Cut on CBS Sunday Morning. And the hard work of a staff that this guy barely speaks to or sees because he would rather be swimming or paddleboarding. He thinks this is evocative of his uncle and it is, because his uncle used to do this too. In the filthy Hudson River. There is not a native New Yorker who would so much as dip a single tiny toe into the Hudson River. That shit will take you out. But this guy is the is. He's not mentally unwell at all. He loves to go swimming in the Hudson. Join the why? I feel like his apartment must have an indoor lap pool. But if not, go join Equinox or some fancy country. You know, the Times reports that many sources, from party elite to Schlossberg's boots on the ground, quote, described an operation so erratic and plagued by turnover. Excuse me. That it raises questions about how Jack might handle himself as a member of Congress. Okay, now comes the video evidence. As your humble cultural criminal prosecutor, this guy's over on what was once msnbc, what is now Ms. Now with Jen Psaki. So these are, these are soft landings. These are, these are all played. They all think the same. They're all, you know, they all once upon a time, like you have a Kennedy sitting in front of you. Oh, my liege. You bow. You're a journalist, you kiss the ring. Jen Psaki addresses the New York Times bombshell reporting. And watch. This is a, this is a trick. This is a trick. She, she's, she's going to ask him a direct question about that reporting. And what is Jack going to do? He's going to give an answer that has no relation to the question she just asked. Because he's trying to stall. He's trying to stall to come up with an answer that if he had a decent staff, which he doesn't, because they're all fleeing like it's a fucking burning building. They're fleeing. Ask Ryan Reynolds where he's been lately. You know, he would have had an aide whose job it would be to prep him for interviews such as this. Hey, Jack. Here's exactly what you say. Here's exactly what you say. How you say it. Do we make it a joke? Do you? No one's helping this guy. No one is left, in my opinion. Here we go.

[B]

Our campaign has done more public events. We're everywhere all at once. I've met so many people in New York that I'm starting to run into people for the second time just on the street.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

In terms of the reports in that New York Times article that you're referencing, most of them. If they had fact checked them, they would. They could have asked me. Not true.

[A]

Okay? He's a. He's a liar. That is a lie. And shame on you, Jen, because you're a member of the media now. And maybe you didn't go to journalism school, but somebody over at MSNBC or Ms. NOW should be teaching you these goddamn basics. Excuse my language. A piece like that is fact checked and legaled eight ways to Sunday. A piece like that. A call is made to Jack's office. We have the following allegations. We have it very well sourced, double sourced, triple source. Well reported. Does your candidate have a response? Would your candidate like to go on the record? He's lying. Oh, they should have just fact checked. You know, it's all eyes. No, Jack. You're lying. You're lying. And as a member of the media, I hate when public figures do this because it. It allows for people to think that reporters just get to be sloppy and write what they want. No, we don't. You know what the. You know what the. You know what happens if we just make shit up or don't do our due diligence? Our outlet gets sued or has to issue a retraction and an apology, which is a humiliation, which undermines the credibility of said outlet. And you as a reporter, your credibility's fucking shot. You'll probably get fired for that. So fuck off, Jack. That's a lie. But he's a toddler. He doesn't know how the real world works. He's never had a real job. Here's Jack on the reports in the New York Times that he's skipping his own meetings. Here we go.

[B]

Weekly meetings for my benefit. Strategy meetings. I can tell you right now that I'm the campaign's lead strategist.

[A]

And so you didn't skip meetings early on in the campaign or in the first couple of weeks.

[B]

Who would I be meeting with?

[C]

Who?

[B]

Who is this person?

[A]

Who is this person? Who is this person? I would be meeting with a whole staff. And by the way, Jen, if I'm sitting in your chair, I'm quoting from the lead of that New York Times mag. New York Times report saying, hey Jack, these are the people you were supposed to be meeting with on day one. Insiders in the Dem party, power brokers, the media. What do you mean? Who are you supposed to be meeting with? And. And secondly, you're your own campaign strategist, so you can strategize a campaign and run a campaign at the same time. That would be like a doctor trying to operate on themselves. Jen, push the back. Would you like more eyeballs on your show? Why don't you engage in some real journalism? Here's Jack calling his campaign flawless. Okay, flawless. This is again, it's like Timothy Shamalama ding dong. He thought he was running a flawless Oscar campaign. Fucking flawless. Oh my God, I wish I had my nerve. Top level shit, baseball cap. Gotta find that thing. Here we go.

[B]

I have no idea what they're talking about. And they said that I took a nap in November and if that's their idea of a scandal, then I think that that is evidence to everyone in New York that I'm running a basically flawless campaign.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. Now Jack and his team, what's left of them anyway, have done a very good job of scrubbing the Internet of some of his more disgusting, unhinged, vile posts. But we at the Nerve never forget and the Internet is forever you. January 20th post on X, since deleted, directed at his mother's cousin, RFK Jr. I'll have a Maha energy ball. Jack wrote. The ingredients he said included quote, 2 ounces of Jew blood, Ashkenazi, not Sephardic, and 4 cups of male jizz baked at 300 degrees until totally dry like your wife. Now if I'm a Jen Sack and I got this guy across from me, I'm asking about that Jack. Does this sound commensurate with somebody who should be representing the long suffering people of New York City? Per Yahoo News, published on November 12, 2025. Another Jack post. True or false? Usha Vance is way hotter Than Jackie. Oh, that's his own grandmother again. This was an ex post during Trump's inauguration ceremony. That's what he posted. And here is that Instagram post. Jack took his head, cut it out, and inserted it next to Usha and her baby. He issued a vile, misogynistic slur directed at me personally. I will not repeat it because it's not worth it. And then, like, weeks after that, weeks after that, like, we did a piece on the Nerve about Julia Fox dressing up for Halloween as Jackie in the blood splattered pink Chanel suit. And I did a segment on how disgusting I thought that was. And Jack went into my comments on Instagram for everyone to see and wrote to me, I love you. This is not a well person. There was an enormous story in the New York Post that was published last summer, I believe, and they spoke to many members of the Kennedy family who told them, Jack is Persona non grata up here on the Cape. We don't want him around and we don't want his mother around either, because she enables him. And one of the Kennedys said to the New York Post, we hope he gets the help that he needs. Again, that's code, in my opinion, for drugs. This guy has a very heavy drug problem. And again, shame on Jen Psaki for letting him get away with that. Oh, the big criticism was, I took a nap once. No, it's that you disappeared from your own campaign launch on day one. Your staff had no idea where you were. You told them you needed a nap and they're like, what the fuck is this? That's a problem. Here he is being interviewed by Mark Judici again, hand selected by Anna Wintour to try to save Vanity Fair. This discussion is disgusting and this is why. This is. This is a big part of the reason, like, legacy media is failing because it's infested with the children of privilege. You know, journalism. You know, back in the 40s, 50s, 60s, even back in the. Like, it was a. It was a, it was a plus if you didn't come from privilege. It was a plus if you understood what it was like to come from the working class or the middle class or poverty. That was a plus. Now we're, now we're subjected to bullshit conversations like this. This is cultural societal rot that is being placed in front of our face. These two assholes talking to each other. Here we go.

[C]

This is a little personal. Yes. You earned no income in 2025. That is money from a regular job,

[A]

but for trust funds.

[C]

Jack, how do you relate to money.

[B]

Well, I would just say that I lost a lot of relatives in my life way too young and they left me money. And those that money is in trusts. And it allows me to tell you that I invested all of my money last year in things that I believe in, in my own company or not all of my own money, but I put 100% my own money to start my company called Squid Island Productions to make political content about the things and issues that I think are important. So I've invested my own money in myself. And I've also, you know, you mentioned my earned income. That was by choice. I was offered a lot of money for, by a lot of different companies to do brand deals, to write books, to do a lot of stuff. And I said no to that money because I cannot be bought. If you live in New York, you should love competition. I grew up.

[A]

Okay, that's enough to make it here. That's enough. That's. We do love competition and that's why we're taking it to you right now. Jack, does this guy understand how out of touch he thinks he is? Oh, you don't have any earned income and you never have. And Jack says, well, you know, I've been offered a lot of money to write books and do brand deals. Mark, that's not the question. The question is you've never worked a day in your life. Truly my opinion, you've never had a callous on your hands. You don't know what it's like to have to go to a job and deal with a boss who doesn't know what they're doing or is abusive. You don't have, you don't, you don't know what it's like not to have the luxury to take a sick day. There's a major, major, major strike happening, transportation strike happening in New York right now. The Long island railroad is completely shut down and a lot of people are suffering because of that. Do you think Jack Schlossberg has any idea about having difficulty getting from point A to point B? Or that your future employment, which you need to put food on the table because you don't have so much as $500 in an emergency fund? Do you think this guy understands for a second what that's like? He's asked again, wrong question. What's your relationship to money? And Jack goes, you know, I lost a lot of relatives in my life too young. That is another knee jerk Kennedy response. Back off, man. I lost a lot of relatives way too young. A lot of those relatives did it to themselves. Your uncle among them. And he took two innocent people with him. That's not my problem. Sorry that you lost a lot of relatives, but you're running for office now, so you answer to me. You're doing the job interview right now. It's up to me and the rest of the electorate if you get fucking hired. Here's Jack taking to Instagram to denounce Ryan Murphy's love story. He should be thanking Ryan Murphy that he made Love Story because it revived interest in the Kennedy family in the 90s version of the Kennedy family, that generation. And by the way, it was a super glossy treatment, okay? It wasn't the ask not real deal treatment. And that redounded to Jack's benefit because he's getting that halo effect now. But he's so short sighted and he thinks that he owns the Kennedy legacy. Sorry, my man. It belongs to all of us. It belongs to all of us and we don't like it anymore. This is from 10 months ago, back when Jack was still rolling around town in his murder van. Here we go.

[B]

So, Ryan, you're probably wondering, why am I. So why am I.

[C]

Why.

[B]

What's my. What's my beef?

[C]

You're just.

[A]

Ryan doesn't think about you.

[B]

You're trying to celebrate John. You love him. You love our family. You're just trying to show people how great we are. Well, that's not how I see it. Right now is a particularly charged moment, and people need to know their history now more than ever.

[A]

So, Ryan, like you and Ted Sorenson,

[B]

I'm not happy that you're making your TV show, and I'm not flattered by it. And I don't think that you're. It's a public service to anyone what you're doing. I think that you are taking. You're not making a documentary. You're not trying to tell people what John stood for. Instance, you're playing into the celebrity and the myth that just distracts people from the serious issues that are going on, which he actually, like.

[A]

You are right.

[B]

Paying attention to. He worked as a district attorney. He started a magazine that tried to explain pop culture and the events of that time with politics. So which is. Which was not only way ahead of its time, but if you actually took any lessons from his life, maybe you would try to do something like that and educate people and get people excited about it.

[A]

Oh, okay. We could just stop it right there. We could just stop it right there. It's so rich. This again. This is the unhinged entitlement this guy does not live in reality. He does not live on the same planet that the rest of us do. It's like Woody Allen said to Christopher, oh, my God. What's Christopher? Remind me. Marlena. Chris. He was. He was in Brainstorm with Natalie Wood and he was on the boat. He was on the boat when she died. Why am I. Whatever. You know, he says, he says, you know, I. I got to get back to planet Earth. Like, he was so freaked out, the idea that he says to Ryan, it would be nice if you could just build Chris Walken. Thank you. Ryan Murphy could buy and sell Jack Schlossberg a million times over. Okay? Ryan Murphy, whether you're a fan of his or not, he's created things. He's used his own brain. And then what does Jack do again? The hypocrisy as he launches his campaign. He launches his campaign dressed up as his uncle again, like buffalo bill. If JFK Jr were still alive, he would have skinned his uncle and worn him as clothing. Here's Jack. JFK Jr. Was famous for riding around terrorizing pedestrians in New York, speeding on his bicycle with a suit and like a kangal and one leg pushed up, one pant leg so it wouldn't get caught in his chain, you know. And Jack dressed exactly the same. And it's so sad because you know what that tells you? That tells you this person has no identity of their own. He's got no sense of self. And if you don't have that, if you don't know who you are, you sure as have no business running for office to tell other people that you're going to fight for them. Because you're not. You just want. You just want it. You just want a little, little princeling place to be. Here is a sample. Again, the nerve is moving the culture, I swear to God. Because if you look at the comments in Maureen Dowd's piece from last November and you compare them, first of all, number one, the New York Times left the comments on. So we are making, making some impact over there. We've been begging them to leave the comments on the more controversial pieces. They're doing it now. The comments are a totally different stripe. Number one commenter named. Sorry, troublemaker named Rick. I'm just going to give him the troublemaker mantle. Sorry for his loss, Rick wrote. But if Mr. Schlossberg, because his sister died, that was another thing. Feel sorry for me. My sister died. It's a tragedy that his sister died of cancer. It truly is. But as Rick says, and I am in wholehearted agreement. If Mr. Schlossberg can't find the time to campaign or take policy briefs amidst a family tragedy, maybe it's not the time for him to seek office. No one is forcing him to run another. We need serious adults to lead us. This young man is not the answer. He's got to grow up a third. We've seen the show before. When JFK Jr. Was being touted as the next great Kennedy, he ended up flying a small plane straight into the ocean, killing his wife and sister in law as well as himself. Hello troublemaker. Finally referencing Schlossberg's campaign. Poorly managed. The same thing happened to John John and his career of nothing before the plane crash. Yes, yes, yes. It's all an ask. Not the scales are falling from people's eyes and not a moment too soon. We know we've got a lot of listeners in New York. Take heed. Take heed. This guy's dangerous. Okay? This isn't fun and games. This kid's dangerous. And I call him a kid because really, that's what he is. Emotionally, intellectually, psychologically. Just my opinion. He's a kid. Coming up. Got a roundup of some cultural offenders. Got some new ones in the mix too. We will be back in a minute. Do you ever feel like your makeup makes you look like a completely different person? 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We are back. Now. I've got a lot to catch up with you guys on and so I think we may have to push troublemaker feedback to the Nerve at night. That's good because that just means we can do even more of it. So this has been a really wild week in New York City and parts of Long island, or really all of Long Island. And last week I was coming in on the train on the Long Island Railroad into New York City to shoot the Nerve at a studio that we work out of there. And the train just stopped under the tunnel. Like in the tunnel. It didn't go all the way into Penn Station and they wouldn't say why. And that's when you know something's really bad. And then it started moving out and the conductor was in my car and we were saying, what's going on? And she was like, oh, it's just a little fire. So you know, it's a conflagration. And they pulled it back and then they rerouted it to Grand Central and then you I got in a cab, but I couldn't go anywhere because now it was gridlock because there's a fire at Penn, and everybody had to go elsewhere and get in cabs to try to get around the city or Ubers, you know? And I was two hours late. And I said to Marlena, after we finished filming, I said, we were looking online to see how both of us were going to get back to where we were going. And I was like, it's been hours, and they're still not saying how this fire started or who set this fire. And Marlena goes, it was Ryan Reynolds. Ryan knew you were on your way in to shoot the Nerve. And I died. I was so jealous of that joke. She's so smart. She's so witty. And anyway, I also just want to say, we know here at the Nerve, we hear from a lot of you troublemakers in the Bronx, in Brooklyn, in Queens, the city out on the island. How many of you are impacted by this bullshit strike? And Bill from Brooklyn said it best. We were talking about it, and he said, you know, you know what this is? These are people who are very excited that they have the juice to shut down New York City, and that's what they've done. And there should be criminal charges for stuff like this because 300,000 people rely on the Long Island Railroad to get to their jobs every day, back and forth. And a lot of these people do not have the money to hire Ubers or they don't have the money to pay gas, what it costs to get gas now. And so they're providing buses that they're saying, leave it for essential workers. They're providing buses which only can send ferry, like 13,000 people. A mere fraction. A mere fraction. These are the nurses. These are the cleaners. These are the guys who, like, pick up sanitation. These are the people who do jobs that are really hard and that most people don't want to do. These are the people who make the city work, and this is what they get. And it's a scorcher this week in New York City. It's a scorcher. It's like 90 degrees in New York City. Keep this in mind, by the way. You know, when a Jack Schlossberg is running, you think this guy has ever once suffered? Ever? Once? Okay, now onto another kind of suffering. My eyes will never be the same after seeing Tom Brady at the Gucci show. He walked for Gucci in the crew in their Cruise 2027 show in New York City. You know, the legacy of Tom Ford, it's just been completely obliterated. Tom Brady, who is looking more and more like an AI version of a former football star. I mean, he's a great. He'll forever be a great. But, like, he's so stiff. And it's like. It's. It's. It's like this suit is. Is like Elvis in his 68 comeback special, except Elvis had sex. Elvis just oozed sex and danger. And Tom Brady looks like a eunuch. Why did they do this? Fucking wild. Okay? And then so Marlena and I were texting back and forth about that. Then into my algorithm comes none other than Mariah Carey at the Gucci show. Watch this. Okay? If you're Just. If you're listening, she's got three people helping her take her coat off, and then she sits down, and she's got handlers wiping lint off of her. She's got a hairstylist who's way too close, in my opinion, arranging her hair. It looks like. It looks like, you know, it's the way you would see nurses and aides tending to a paraplegic. I think that she is, like, internally, spiritually a paraplegic. She doesn't do anything for herself. Cindy Crawford walking at Gucci. What is this? I ask you, what is this? It's like. This is a version of Lena Dunham's dress. I am telling you, at the Met gala, there are. There is a faction of gay men, and they are working in the fashion industry, and they're running houses like these. They hate women. Cindy Crawford, you know, they're like. They're trying to basically cover her face with feathers that are just arcing out of the top. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And finally, Paris Hilton at the Gucci show, unveiling dark hair. She's walking it. She's flouncing. She's wearing a wig that looks like it came off the Alibaba site. It looks highly flammable. She is somebody who needs to be a blonde. You know how there are those people who, like, if they're. If they. If they go back to what their natural hair color is, like, it doesn't work. Like, you know who. You know who was like this? Gwyneth Paltrow tried it for a hot minute in the 90s when she did that movie Bounce with Ben Affleck. And you look at her as a brunette, and it's like, nothing special. And then you look at her as a blonde, and it does something. Like, her face comes alive. She needs to be a blonde. She needs to be a blonde. So does Paris Hilton. Okay, finally My final note here, I had the Today show on Monday to see what was going on over there, and Carson Daly was sitting in, in the fourth hour for Chanel. I don't know why Chanel needs so many days off. I really don't. She just got this gig. Why don't you show up and like, treat it like the, like the privilege it is getting paid a lot of money, sister, for that dim wattage up there. Anyway, it became abundantly clear and I, I, I don't know, I, I just don't know what's wrong with people over at the Today show. They have learned nothing from personalizing their hosts to the point where they are showing photos and videos of their family members, immediate family members. Savannah's mother was taken from her bed weeks after Savannah taped a homecoming trip for the Today show with her mother and her sister. And they showed everyone their favorite place to eat town where, just about where they live. You know, everybody knows. Savannah's mother still lived in the house in which Savannah and her siblings were raised. Her mother did a segment from her bedroom for the Today show on how to make a bed, showing how easily accessible that first floor bedroom was because there was a very low slung window installed in there. Here's Carson Daly, who's been in the business since he was like very, very, very young. I remember when he got hired at MTV because I was working there. He's been around for decades. He's showing his 13 year old daughter's photo and talking about how she just made her confirmation. Here we go.

[C]

I have a 13 year old, Etta,

[A]

who's doing great, who I never speak

[B]

with because we don't, I don't speak. Do you guys speak 13 year old?

[A]

I don't, I try to speak 13.

[B]

There she is.

[C]

Confirmed. That's at our confirmation.

[D]

Oh, Mila also got.

[B]

She's in God's hands now.

[A]

He says she's in God hands. God's hands now. God forbid any crazy person out there gets some ideas. Whoever, whoever did what they did to Savannah's mother so far has been quite successful because we have no idea what happened, let alone who they're looking at because they don't have any suspects as far as we know. Jenna goes on to show photos of her three children. Carson went on to show video of his youngest pretending to be a dj. We hear her voice, we see her. What is wrong with you people? If your producer comes to you and says, you know what, we need to keep you feeling like you're just America's favorite next door neighbor. Let's warm you up. Let's humanize you and make you relatable by showing photos of your children. You should have one answer. Fuck off. Not happening. It's a no. Keep your feedback coming. Email me at Maureen Devil May or DM me on Instagram at Maureen Callahan, writer, or at the Nerve Show. And remember to subscribe to the Nerves Substack. That is our weekly email full of extra bonus content. We're adding video now. It's really, really fun. Go over to thenerveshow.com the mothership. You will see a prompt right at the top. Would you like to subscribe? All you do is put your email in. Click send. That's it. On Friday, after the last full nerve of the week, in comes some more bonus content to tide you over till the mini. Up next, the OG as he likes to say. The OG Mo Bro, which kills me. I love him. I love him so much. Bill from Brooklyn is here. We will see you in a minute. This one is for the female troublemaker contingent. Ladies, are you having trouble sleeping through the night, thinking clearly, or just feeling like yourself? Well, Biologica makes a drinkable daily supplement that goes beyond a multivitamin. They combine vitamins, minerals, probiotics, electrolytes and clinically researched botanicals in one easy drink, so there's no juggling pills in the morning. This is an effervescent powder that you mix with water. It tastes great and it's easy to remember daily. It's also made with clean ingredients, no added sugars, and developed alongside women's health experts. What sets Biologica apart is that it's designed for different hormonal life stages. Primary Essentials supports women in their reproductive years. Midlife Essentials supports women navigating perimenopause post menopause Essentials supports women in post menopause so you can choose what's right for your body right now. Hedgebiologica.com Nerve to get started, take their quick Hormonal Life Stage quiz and find the formula that's right for you. And right now, subscribers can receive up to 32% off their purchase. Again, make sure to go to biologica.com nerve and get up to 30 32% off your first subscription order today.

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[C]

Thank you for having me. Very excited to be here today.

[A]

We have, we have a lot of great things to talk about. First, Travis Kelce on the New Heights podcast that he co hosts with his brother. On May 6, he says he's there with Taylor again saying that she has made him a bet. Not just a better man, but a smarter man. He's not. Not only has his vocabulary improved, but his palette is now more adventurous. You know, I mean, here we go. Let's just. You'll take it on the back end. Here we go.

[B]

I would have never went on here

[C]

and told everybody how butthurt I was. Yeah.

[A]

I'd never just been so engulfed in

[C]

the curiosity of who you were.

[A]

Oh, that's.

[C]

I really. I really. Best things about that last statement is you didn't even know what the word engulf meant before.

[A]

Like you met Taylor.

[C]

Like this is. You've broadened your horizons so far. It's where the perfect. I'm telling you, it's so.

[A]

She makes me so much better, Bill.

[C]

I mean, my first question Is. Did he go to the same doctor as Prince Harry to get neutered? I mean, what. Like, what are we. What are we doing there? She put the statement out for him and he just read it. Or someone's publicist. I mean, come on.

[A]

I know it's like his job is he's marrying her, but his job is to be her number one fan. Number one fan. That marriage. What do you give it. What's your estimate on how long it's going to last?

[C]

Oh, I'm going to say about 18 months.

[A]

I think that's. Yeah. Do you think. Do you think one kid?

[C]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't. I mean, she's. She likes to be on tour, right? So she's on tour. You know, she wants her name in the paper all the time. It's hard to do that and have a family. So, you know, I guess that's gonna depend on her.

[A]

But do you also think. I have a theory that this, this, this lovey dovey podcast stuff with Travis, which is really beneath the star of her caliber, I think is meant to distract from her association with Blake Lively.

[C]

Yeah, I definitely think. I mean, there's no reason for her to appear on that show. And the whole Blake Lively thing, like, I read a couple articles over the weekend, and she's. It seems like, I mean, if I'm not mistaken, she's trying to work away in as a woman's advocate and out there for women's rights. That's at least what I was reading in to. It seemed like.

[A]

No, like, oh, Blake, Blake. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

So. But I think Taylor Swift is smart enough to say, I can't touch us with the ten foot pole. So.

[A]

But I. Yeah, but I think, like, embedding herself in that Kelsey family, like, we're just like middle America good guys. Like, we love football and beer and the American. Like, that's her way of trying, I think, to rebrand herself. She's not over here with, like, the 1 percenters, Blake and. And Ryan. Psycho arsonist Ryan Reynolds, you know, bullying some like, like, new director in their $5.7 million Tribeca loft. No, Taylor's not about that. She's over here with these two.

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But everything that they just did in that little interview there was the direct opposite of what she's trying to do. She's trying to take what was a rough and tumble football player who was, I believe, kicked off a college football team or almost kicked off, and his brother saved him. And now we're going to turn him into this, you know, this wholesome lovey dovey guy that, you know, is. Is, you know, she makes him a better man kind of thing. I mean, come on, let's just.

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I didn't know that the Travis was almost kicked off his college football team. Why?

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I think there was some issue. I think he had some partying issues when he was younger. I remember reading a couple of stories a while back, I believe could be wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, but his brother had to go to the coach and say, hey, listen, give me another shot. He's really talented. And he finally got his act together and was able to, you know, stay on the team, was able to be coached, and, you know, got him a long way. I mean, he's a Hall of Fame football player. It's just. It's sad when you see someone change who they are for someone else. And that's what you feel like you're watching with Travis Kelce.

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Yeah. I mean, honestly, even as a, as a casual observer and as someone who doesn't care anything about football, like, we all do know who the greats in any given sport are, and I don't. It has never entered my consciousness that Travis is a future hall of Famer. I think Travis. I think of her as of him, rather as Taylor's like, accessory.

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Yeah. I mean, he's the lap dog.

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Yeah.

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That's what he's turning into.

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Fully neutered. Exactly what you said at the top. He's fucking fully neutered. This guy's supposed to be a major football player, a tough guy. He's fully neutered. Sitting there with, like, his hands in his lap. Taylor makes me. Okay, before we get to the story that I know you are obsessed with. I am obsessed with it, but you are way more obsessed with it than I am. It is a scandal. It's a great scandal. It's got sex, it's got corruption, it's got everything. I want to talk about Ryan Lochte for a moment because Ryan Lochte has been making headlines. Former Olympic swimmer. He won 12 medals. He was so handsome. He had the world at his fingertips. He's the third most decorated swimmer in Olympic history and his life is in the shitter. He is in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, including at least 200k to the IRS, which is not a place you want to be. He's getting a divorce. Us magazine reported December 4, 2025. He and his soon to be ex wife are being sued for foreclosure of their $600,000 Florida home and he got a new job and it's got, he's going to go join Missouri State's swimming and diving program. Not as a coach, Bill, as an assistant coach. His salary, $30,000 a year or $34.10 an hour. Now, when I was reading all of these headlines, I was like, where did it really go wrong for this guy? How did a guy who was on top of the world wind up where he is now? And this is my theory. This is my theory. It all went wrong with the so called Rio robbery story that Ryan gave at the 2016 Olympics. Here's the Today show's coverage of same. Here we go.

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Hey, Matt, good morning. Ryan Lochte was on Today. Friday morning within 48 hours, he had a gun put to his head. We've retraced the route he took and guys, you know, there are still many questions. Where is the taxi driver they were with? Why did he pull over? Ryan Lochte partying just hours before he was robbed at gunpoint, saying overnight we are safe and unharmed, telling today's Billy Bush in an exclusive interview. The robbers pretended to be police and

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we got pulled over in our taxi. And when these guys came out with

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a badge, a police badge, no lights, no nothing, just a police badge, they

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pulled us over, they pulled out their guns.

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They told the other swimmers to get

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down on the ground. They got down on the ground, forced

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to the ground, says Lochte, Team USA's Gunner Bentz, Jack Conger and Jimmy Fagan who've been celebrating with him.

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I refused.

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I was like, we didn't do anything wrong. So, so I'm not getting down on the ground. And then the guy pulled out his gun. He cocked it, put it to my forehead.

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He said, get down.

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And I was like, I put my hands up.

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I was like, whatever. He took our money. He took my wallet.

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Total lie fell apart pretty fast. The exact circumstances per the Wiki page devoted to what is known as locked gate. While initial news stories reported that Lochte and three other U.S. swimmers had been robbed at gunpoint after a night out in Rio, later details emerged that the, quote, armed robbers posing as police were actually security guards at a gas station where the swimmers had urinated outside the bathroom. And Lochte allegedly vandalized a framed poster and ended with the swimmers providing money to the guards. Bill, Ryan Lochte walked so Jesse Smollett could run, don't you think?

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Yeah. I mean, listen, you look at the couple articles I read about this one too, he looks pretty rough. He looks like he's spent some time in the bottle or something.

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You know, he's not aging well.

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No, not at all. And, you know, listen, I'm all for people taking a job, going to work, doing whatever it is you do. Right. Olympian, you would think, would have some type of name recognition where they could get a job that pays a little bit more than, you know, I mean, $30,000. That's poverty level, you know, annually. You think he'd be able to do a little bit better than that. The other part of this story that I read, he's saying he's taking the job because he loves kids that much, but he's got three kids with his wife who's in Florida. So, I mean, he just loves other people's kids. Or.

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See, this is the thing. Like, this guy. It's rare that you see somebody like, you know, Tiger. By the way, Tiger woods just yesterday flew back to the States after a month in rehab in, I think, Switzerland. You know, he's all better now. He's all better. And he was photographed by Backridge. The New York Post had the pictures with, like, two dogs on the tarmac coming off this private plane. And I just thought to myself, did this Take two of his dogs to rehab? And if so, he wasn't in a real rehab.

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Exactly what I thought. Really took his dogs with. But, yeah, yeah, I mean, come on. Like, they don't. You're not allowed to talk to people. If you go to a legitimate rehab, if you're there to heal and get better, you're not allowed to talk to people. You're not. You know, I've had a few friends go away, and you don't hear from them. They go away. They come back in 30 days, and, you know, they're still struggling. And he's, you know, your dogs. I mean, I realize he has more money and access to things that some of us never will. But if this. If there is a general way to do things, I would think that's kind of the best way to do it. Right. There's particularly. We're talking about recovery from substance abuse. This is just, you know, it's the same thing with the guy who gets caught cheating on his wife. He's got to go into, you know, my gravel's got to go into counseling. Right.

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We'll get there. Don't gotta have me.

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I know, I know. But you know my point. Like, all right, I got. I flipped my car. Oh, I gotta go to rehab. All's fine. I'm good. I'm healthy now. Don't worry about you. You know, you small people who I almost kill every time I roll a car over in Florida.

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You know, the other thing I thought, Bill, when I saw those dogs, is those poor dogs, like, Tiger woods shouldn't have dogs. What if one of those dogs had been with him in that car when he rolled it over?

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He's not. I'm gonna bet that the help is taking care of the dogs. He's not walking a dog. He's not.

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No, I'm not saying he's walking the dog, but, like, if you're taking your dogs with you to rehab because you need, you know, like. Like an emotional support animal or two, that's clearly what's going on here. Or he was just, you know, posted up in some mansion somewhere, really. You know, but it's like he thought. He thought enough to bring them with him. So he obviously has some kind of bond with them. And I. But I just think that, like, he's the last person who should have animals. I just. I just. It made me very upset.

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That could. That could also just be the showmanship of it. Like, look, I'm not that bad of a guy. I take my dogs everywhere I go. He probably. I'm sure somebody was on that plane taking care of the dogs. The dogs are not sitting there on the plane with him, and he's taking care of them and. And paying them and feeding them. I. I just. I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth or from anywhere in his direction from a publicist. It's all nonsense. It's all just, you know, smoke and mirrors from him.

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He's a total piece of shit. And I can't wait to have you back on when Tiger gives his first interview about how he's all reformed now, keep his driver's license and not go to prison. Jesus. Okay, next, your favorite. This is such a great story to talk about with you because you and I were at a family gathering last weekend, and you were telling me this story, and I had no idea about it because you guys are a big basketball household, and you were telling me that when the Knicks, they defeated the 76ers to advance to the Eastern Conference finals.

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Hold on. I got to interrupt you. We didn't defeat them. We crushed their soul and we took their heart. That's what we did to them.

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My apologies. Much, much better said. But you were saying to me that the Sixers had this thing going on where if you were buying tickets online, you. They. Now tell me how this is different than just putting in your credit card info that they were rejecting any potential purchasers who had New York zip codes because they wanted to keep Knicks fans off site.

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Yeah. So they, they were not selling tickets to anyone that had a New York zip code. Their star player, Joel Embiid, came out before the series and made a plea to the Philadelphia fans. Don't sell your tickets to New York fans because we did this last year too. We took over the 76 Arena. Now, not to the extent that it was done this year. And he is much said, if you guys need money, I've got you. I'll give you the money. Philadelphia stood the 76 still, then donated like 500 tickets per game to charities just to give away so New York fans wouldn't go there. And if you watch these games, it was all Nick fans. I mean, from the beginning, for the opening tip, all the way through the end, it was. You heard the deuce Chance for Deuce McBride. You heard every time the nick basket went in, Mitchell Robinson, our center, threw a dunk down over Joel Embiid, who hurt him and put him out a couple of years ago, pulled him down and hurt his leg in a really dangerous play. Joel Embiid dunked on him. Like that was. That was a play all of New York needed. It was. It was a great series.

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You know, it's moments like this when I feel so thankful that I'm a New Yorker, you know, that you're like a born and bred New Yorker. I. It's. It's moments like these that just, I think personify the spirit of New York. The, like, the fuck you. We won't do what you tell us. Like, we are better than you. Like, it's. It's a real attitude that like, just doesn't exist anywhere else. We're going to take a look at two clips which, by the way, your, your beautiful, lovely child said. I was like, oh my God, I love who this child is becoming. Okay, first affiliate reporter getting swallowed by Knicks mob after the Sixers lose. Here we go. Walter. You would think that I'm in New York right now instead of Philadelphia. Absolutely not. The way that fans are hoping to end the Sixers of the season. You can see that I am surrounded by this fan right now. Had to say, I gotta say what I love about that clip is you could tell the reporter is having just as much fun. She's like, she's not afraid at all.

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Nobody harmed her, nobody. Nobody even touched her, pushed her. Like, they were very deliberate in how they did that, in that surrounding her. And Just overtaking the camera. You can see the cameraman have to back up a little bit because he was getting swallowed up too. But that was, that was a great clip.

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I love that clip. And then this one of Nick's fans in Philly after the game three win. Here we go. Happy Mother's Day.

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My wife Baskin Robin Benjamin Franklin. Mario Chalmers is an absolute nobody. Cheesesteak. Kevin Durant, don't you with you in a ca. We eat cheese. It's never a Philly cheesesteak.

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We ain't backing down.

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It's all yet baby Meek Dre Cal is the best. If I see any Knicks fan going to Baskin Robbins. Oh, fantastic. Those watch parties are fantastic.

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I mean everybody was just so funny and just the way they're like just slicing and shiving Philly, which is a great city, you know, but it's like it really. It's just like, it's brutal. It's like when the Knicks are winning, there's like no better feeling in New York really.

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So here's the thing with Philly to Philly is Philly's a notorious sports town. Like it used to be. New York fans would go into Philly stadiums, you know, in New York year and you might have had a fist fight. It might have come to that at some point, you know, going to an Eagles game in Giants gear was not always advisable. Wearing Mets uniform in the Philadelphia Phillies stadium, you know, you were going to get abuse. And then to see the New York Knick fans turn Philadelphia stadium into Madison Square Garden south, like they, it was just, it was completely overrun and there was nothing that could be done about it. So it was, you know, this has been an historical six games. I've never seen more dominant basketball in six games in my life. And coming from someone like I'm a Nick fan from the time of the, you know, the 90s, late 80s 90s, when they were horrible. Like we had some good runs. But last 20 years was a pretty rough time. So this is enjoyable to watch and we have a real shot at going all the way this year.

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Okay, don't jinx anything. Let's move on to your favorite. I think this is your favorite sports slash entertainment slash news story of this year so far. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's the Mike Vrabel Diana Rossini alleged reported just our opinion affair, which they still deny. Okay, I'm just going to set the table for any troublemakers who don't know. Diana Rossini was a longtime football sports reporter. She had worked for the Athletic, which is part of the New York Times. She resigned after she was caught looking a little too cozy with a top NFL coach named Mike Vrabel. Smash cut to like a few days later, it emerges that they, they were like on a boat together. When she was like seven months pregnant, just the two of them alone, she named one of her children Mike. And we'll get to Dave Portnoy's tweet about that. What was the other thing they were caught doing? Caught in a bar in 2020, looking very cozy. Very, very cozy. Now Bill, tell me why. You know, listen, sex scandals are like a dime a dozen in sports, in show business. What about this scandal stands out to you and makes it so fascinating?

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So this one is just special because every time I think I, I have the right feeling towards somebody involved in this, someone else outdoes them in level of just being a piece of garbage. Right? So two people get caught having an affair, no one cares about the affair. It happens, right? Well, you know, you see it all the time. But then you, you get that arrogant missile from both of their camps, like, we're not even going to address this. We're not going to dignify this with the response. It was just two adults, okay? Then we get in 2020, New York City bar at midnight being videotaped by somebody. So now this is going on for six years. This is beyond the fair. This isn't even boyfriend, girlfriend. This is like life partner territory, right? Six years is a long time. And then she named her kid after

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Bravel then allegedly, reportedly. She denies it.

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Reportedly, yeah, because I was feeling bad for this guy, for her husband, until that picture you sent me of him hugging and kissing her in public on Mother's Day. Like, my God, like what are we doing? I mean, you do, you have no dignity. I mean, at what point do you just, you say, I'm done, I'm gonna walk away.

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So two things. One is that guy should not only be at the sharkiest divorce lawyers office in Manhattan right now, but he should be demanding genetic testing on the child that I think named after the coach that she's been. You're right. That is a full blown relationship that we like. We can date it back allegedly by six years. It's probably been going on longer than that. My favorite bit of this was you sent me this. That. So Rabel went off to some sort of counseling, like multi day counseling session, you know, last refuge of the scoundrel. I don't know where these places are. I've Never heard of them. You know, where these guys suddenly just vanish to. To, like, you know, try to get them to understand themselves and why they're such pieces of shit. And then you were like, oh, my God, he was just spotted at the airport buying a sweatshirt. And I said to you, for which one? And you were like, it's clearly for the wife. Why did you think it was for the wife?

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I. If I. If I remember correctly, he was on his way. He had just left the draft, and he was on his way. I think they were doing, according to the article, couples counseling, where he was going to meet the wife. So it's like, oh, I forgot to get her something. Like, I mean, at this point, if you're the head coach for the New England Patriots, you're. You're a smart guy, right? You should have enough common sense to know this. Cameras everywhere. People are watching your every move. Don't humiliate your wife anymore by getting her an airport gift. Like, that's. I mean, you know, go to Amazon. Haven't shipped something. I mean, it's just. So.

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Do you think perhaps that was the point, whether he's dialed into it or not, that he loves humiliating his wife? Because as you just said, first of all, he's a head coach for an NFL team. Dave Portnoy said this. I didn't know this. That for a head coach to walk away during the NFL draft, it's, like, never done.

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It's unprecedented.

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Yeah, you never do that, number one. Number two, he's got at least one assistant. I'm gonna guess a female. You say to that assistant, I need you to source me a gift for the ages. An apology gift for the ages. It should cost no less than five figures, and it should come in a box that says either Cartier, Tiffany, or Bulgaria. Okay, do you think that Diana's husband. Because when I saw that photo of him kissing and hugging her in public in front of paparazzi. It looks like they live in a. In a sort of mod. It's a. It's a nice area, but it's modest. They're not, you know, in the upper echelon. I thought. You know who I thought of? I thought of Brian Gnome. And, like, nobody could understand why he was sticking with Kristi Gnome when everybody allegedly reportedly knows about this alleged reported open affair she's been having for many, many years with a top Trump lieutenant. But it came out that Brian Gnome was very happy over with the bimbofication scene. You know, dressing up in latex boobs and talking to his his bimbos over there about wanting to transition. So anyway, I'm just saying it made me think, like, maybe the husband has his own, own kinks, that, that, that, you know, in this marriage is a, is a convenience for both of them.

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Maybe. I, I, I don't know. But, I mean, at a certain point, don't you, don't you just have to, you have to have, Isn't there some announcement or you just have to make some kind of public showing that, you know, you're a human being. You're not going to be walked over like a doormat. I mean, unless they have, you know, maybe they have an open marriage and they don't care. I don't know. But I would think at some point that would have just been said, like, by now.

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Exactly.

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Said, listen, we have an open marriage. It's not for everybody, but this is how we live our lives. And honestly, at that point, if they would have said that, it probably all would have just went away. Right?

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Exactly. So this is the thing that I also think makes this story just incredible. Like, again, the more we learn, the worse it gets. If, if this is true, if this is true, this affair, which Diana and Mike deny, it predates her marrying Kevin Goldschmidt. So that means she clearly wanted this guy and she wanted him to leave his wife, I think, for her. He told her that wasn't happening. So she marries this guy by default. And then the Daily Mail, I believe it was the Mail, discovered these conversations or things that she had been posting on social media in which she basically said of her husband, some in substance and paraphrasing, hey, if I had a super hot, really special husband, I'd be tweeting about him all the time. I'd be posting about him all the time, probably over posting. But you know what? I married mediocre.

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I saw a clip of her on air with three other male sportscasters, and they were discussing an assignment she was on in south beach. And she said something to the effect of, I partied so hard, I can't even tell my husband the things I was doing down in south beach over the weekend. And they all kind of just stopped and were like, do you really want to say that here? Like, you can't tell your husband, but you're going to tell millions of people on national tv. So there's one other question I have with this whole thing that doesn't make sense to me. The picture from the bar in 2020. The, the video clip of it, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then the pictures from them going on the boat.

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Yeah.

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Somebody kept these for six years, but they never came out. Why are they just coming out now? Who holds on to that for six years, does it? And now all of a sudden, the floodgates have kind of open.

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Like, what's your theory?

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I think somebody was probably paid not to release them. And now at this point, it's like, you know what? I got my money. It's five, six years later, and I might as well put them out there. Just keep piling.

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This is a great thread. This is a great thread to pull on. We will be talking about this as this story develops. I have one other question I need to ask you.

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Sure.

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And this is. This is a pop culture question. The Michael Jackson movie has stirred up a ton of controversy, and it basically seems there are two camps, and it doesn't seem like there's anybody in the middle, really. You either believe that Michael Jackson was a pedophile or you don't. There's no believing some accusers, not others. Whatever, whatever. Do you think that Michael Jackson was a pedophile?

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100%.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Tell us why, as a grown man, you are not going to sleep in bed with other people's children. At a certain age, you're not going to sleep in bed with your own children. I have a friend, went to their house to go to a pool party. Preteen girls, six, seven, whatever it was. One day he left the house for it. Another day he went upstairs into his room, didn't come down. And he said to me, I have no place being downstairs while there's a bunch of preteen girls running around in bathing suits in my backyard. My wife handles it. I go upstairs. That is normal adult thinking, right? No man should be in bed with little kids, with other little kids. There's no. There's no logical reason for it. There's nothing anyone can tell me that makes it okay. You shouldn't want to be in bed with little kids. You just shouldn't be.

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Bill, you distilled it. You just distilled it to its effing essence. That. Thank you. Thank you. I so. I so love it when you come on the show. I really do. And I know the troublemakers love it, too. Thank you for making time in your very busy schedule with an actual job that contributes a lot of real stuff to society to come on the nerve and talk some smack with us.

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Thank you for having me. It was a great time.

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See you soon.

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All right, Mom. See you later.

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