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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
"The Morning Show" Hate-Watch, Jen Aniston Feigns Shyness, and Pete Davidson’s Shameful Decision
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Maureen Callahan is joined by celebrity makeup artist Tim MacKay for a total takedown of season 4 of "The Morning Show" on Apple TV. Together they rip apart the poorly written plotlines, the subpar acting, the unrealistic dialogue and the overall confusing story arc. Maureen zeroes in on the show's lead character played by Jennifer Aniston, illustrating parallels between Aniston's real-life and her on-screen persona, proving she is not as nice as the media paints her to be. Then Maureen goes for round two on the comedians who are still justifying their decision their performances in Saudi Arabia, choosing money over morality. She takes extra shots at Pete Davidson for his participation, despite the fact that his dad was killed on 9/11. Aware House: Visit https://awarehouseshop.com/discount/THENERVE & use code THENERVE for 15% off your first order. Cowboy Colostrum: Get 25% Off Cowboy Colostrum with code MAUREEN at https://www.cowboycolostrum.com/MAUREEN Vandy Crisps: Get 25% of...
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Tim McKay
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
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Maureen Callahan
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Maureen Callahan
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Maureen Callahan
Hey there. Welcome to your Friday edition of the Nerve. I am your host Maureen Callahan. And today we are wrapping up a wild week. First, we begin with your requests. We are recapping our new healing Hate Watch the morning show. And we're also getting into crimes against the culture committed by one Jennifer Aniston with our friend Tim McKay. Tim, the celebrity makeup artist. We're also going to get his takes on Sarah Jessica Parker's latest outing in New York City and Meghan Markle at Paris Fashion Week. Next, we're back to your emails and commentary. We have a ton of it and I can't wait to get into it with you guys. And that's going to be followed by some more defiant comedians who are explaining why it's okay that they are performing at the Chop Chop Comedy Festival in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. And if you guys thought we went hard on Ryan Reynolds. Oh, and by the way, some of you guys reached out the night before last to tell me that Blake Lively and her husband Ryan swished off their Instagram comments. And I can only hope the Nerve is to blame for that. Or actually, let's get real, to be thanked. I love the idea of those two, like, holed up on their, on their phones and somebody sending them hopefully that clip we did here at the Nerve about Ryan, that psycho arsonist and going, holy shit, we better turn off our, our comments. Let's, let's make sure they keep those comments off, okay? You know, that's torture for them. They're, that's, that's what this, that's what they really care about. Likes and, you know, clicks and likes. Anyway, we're going to keep on Ryan, so not to worry. And we have some troublemaker feedback that will illuminate perhaps why and how Ryan got away with setting fire to his elementary school and burning it to the ground. Not a wing, as Ryan once said. It was just like a wing. And he. He burned his entire elementary school to the ground as the entire town came out of their homes and watched with tears in their eyes. Pete Davidson, you thought we went rough on Ryan. You might want to sack up, my friend. Okay, we've got another packed show, and we have so much to get into, so let's go. With so much going on right now, things can often feel heavy or sometimes make us feel disconnected. But, you know, there is something small that we can all do that can actually make us feel better, and that is to support small, independent businesses and business owners. Because when you choose to do that, you're not just getting a product. You're helping someone's dreams to grow, and you're investing in the values that so many of us share. Honesty, craftsmanship, and community. That is what a warehouse is all about. They've teamed up with nearly 100 small business makers across the United States to bring you handmade goods filled with heart and creativity, uniting people of all backgrounds in a singular mission. So let's choose connection over division and show small businesses the support they deserve. And by the way, you won't be dealing with tariffs, not for nothing. So visit awarehouseshop.com and use code thenerve for 15% off your first order. That's awarehouseshop.com code. The nerve. We asked and you answered the morning show. We are recapping weekly now, and we have got a ton to discuss. Now to help us make sense of the nonsensical, one of your favorites and mine is joining us today, none other than Tim McKay, or as we affectionately call him here at the Nerve, Tim, the celebrity makeup artist. Tim, welcome back. It's so good to see you.
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Tim McKay
Hi, Maureen. You are the absolute best. So I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, my God. We were so happy that you were, like, up for doing the morning show with us, because I can't wait. You. You know what really goes on behind the scenes at these real morning shows, these real network morning shows. So before we get into it, I want to take a look at something that made my jaw drop, and that's saying something. So the brain trust over at the morning show at Apple TV's morning show has realized that there is a phenomenon known as podcasting. And for this season, they have introduced a bro podcaster who seems like their idea of a mashup between Joe Rogan and Dave Portnoy. And that's not supposed to be a compliment. Now the bro podcaster has a crush on the Jennifer Aniston character because Jennifer Aniston is the star. And just like our favorite sprightly 900 year old heroine, Sarah Jessica Parker, all men fall at her feet.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
Feet.
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Maureen Callahan
So we're gonna get to Jennifer in a bit, but let's take a look at this clip. This is good. We're gonna get into our clips from the morning show. This is from episode two, Jen finding herself in the elevator with podcast bro. Here we go.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
That's like the first act of a romantic comedy or slasher film. You know, the way you pretend you dump on me is actually part of the rom com trope.
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Tim McKay
Do you know what?
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
I'm actually not that good of an actress.
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Invitation still open. True or worse, show capitalize on our simmering chemistry.
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Oh, my God, that's such a hard pass. I. I report actual news.
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Yeah, I'm a menace to journalism, democracy, and what's left of the American way.
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You said it.
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Maureen Callahan
That's what the writers think.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
I'm embarrassed to share the planet with.
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Maureen Callahan
You, let alone a streaming service.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
You know, it's sweet when you neg me.
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You know what, bro? Your clan show is really good for our network, but our streams will never, never cross.
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Maureen Callahan
Okay, Tim, now, as a writer, I just want to say I think this is terrible writing. Terrible. I'm embarrassed to share the planet with you. What are you for? By the way, Tim, you're looking fabulous. What have you been doing?
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Tim McKay
Thank you. I don't know. I just. Maybe clearer skin. I don't know. I'm a little bit paler these days. It's winter now, so I'm just embracing the lights.
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Maureen Callahan
We're in fall. Let's not. Let's not push the season, as my mother would say.
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Tim McKay
Well, did you feel it outside today? It feels like it's freezing outside.
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Maureen Callahan
Yes, yes. I'm in a puffy. You know, like, this is my concession to the fact that it is getting colder.
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Tim McKay
I love layers, though, so I'm like, bring it on.
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Maureen Callahan
You're looking very cozy. You're just. All you're missing is a mug of pumpkin spice latte.
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Tim McKay
Oh, you know what? I do have Celsius, though.
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Maureen Callahan
So you know what I've got is your favorite. Your Celsius. I've got my mini coffee, my espresso. So, okay, tell me what you think of that little clip that we just saw and the premise thus far of the podcast bro entering the chat.
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Tim McKay
Well, a few things. I think it's just funny that when you have a right wing commentator on the show, of course his name has to be Bro. Of course he has to be like a bro. And, like, it's just the corniest podcast you've ever seen. It's painful to watch and listen to him talk on that podcast. But I'm like, of course if he's gonna be right wing, he has to be bro. And he's gonna be like, everything that the show hates. But. And Jennifer Aniston saying that she's not into rom coms, which is really funny because she spent all the 2000s in Rom com. So I thought that was a little bit of ironic. A little bit ironic writing there. But I don't know. I wanted to love this show, Maureen. I really did. Especially season one. I really did. Because I love a behind the scenes, like a fake behind the scenes moment on a TV show. Like, what's going especially, oh, my God. My favorite is the makeup chair. If you watch anyone getting makeup done on a TV show, the brush has nothing on it, and they'll use the same brush to do the blush, and then you'll see them, like, doing something on the neck and you're like, what are they doing?
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Maureen Callahan
Right?
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Tim McKay
I'm like, everyone should just watch someone getting their makeup done on a TV show like this one, and the makeup artist is never doing anything and, like, has this little sack of nothing with, like, a brush. And it's just funny for, as a makeup artist to see that.
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Maureen Callahan
I think that's what, like, writers or actors, like, really is that they're like, neg to a makeup artist, like, because makeup artists are among the most important members of any crew.
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Tim McKay
Well, no. So Jennifer Aniston was actually in the movie the Murder. What is that? Murder One. It was like the funny Adam Sandler murder Mystery one. Yeah, I think it was called Murder Mystery. And she plays a hairdresser in that movie. And it's funny because she's doing. I watched it with a hairstylist friend of mine, and she's not wearing gloves. She's, like, coloring someone's hair. It's like, my friend was like, what is she doing? Like, is there not a hairdresser on set? Is there not a makeup artist on set to teach these extras or to teach Jennifer Aniston, whoever that's Playing these roles. This is how you apply makeup. Like, this is how you pretend to do hair. It's just funny as someone in the industry to see that.
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Maureen Callahan
Those are great points. And by the way, not for nothing, but someone like Jennifer Aniston has spent the bulk of her adult life in chairs, getting her hair and makeup professionally done. And you never know, bring some of that serious acting technique to the role and say, wait a minute. We need a true makeup kit here with. Okay, anyway, so we're going to go back to the podcast bro. Now. This is. This is more ridiculousness. She winds up in this episode needing a favor, like, very badly, and she needs to get her message across. And she's going to the podcast bro to ask him if he will please have her on his show so she can salvage her reputation and her grossly overpaid job. Now, Jennifer Aniston is the star of the show, and as such, she has a lot of say. Just my opinion, but this is usually how it goes into the way in which her character is depicted and the words that come out of her mouth. So I think that Jennifer Aniston, much like Sarah Jessica Parker in actuality, talks to people like this and thinks that this is appropriate ways in which not only to engage with a co worker, but to ask one for a badly needed favor. Let's go.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
Are you eye me?
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I was just thinking.
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Don't hurt yourself.
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Tim McKay
Oh.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
What's wrong?
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I think you're right. I think it's. It's time that I come on your show.
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What's with the 180 Super Sus?
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I want to talk about deepfakes.
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Do not Google Alex Levy deep fakes. It's a Pandora's box. If Pandora was in a Bukakian flip flame.
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Oh, God, you're human trash.
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Oh, you called me human, Mr. Babel, why are you here?
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Well, you have a huge platform, and.
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I thought I was a conspiracy monger. Blight on the fourth estate.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, yeah.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
Oh, you are. But you also have, you know, zero editorial oversight.
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What's the angle? Something's got you all turned around.
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Never mind.
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Maureen Callahan
Okay, Tim, please get into this dialogue with me. This. This terrible, awful. She calls him human trash.
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Tim McKay
I. I just think that her character is borderline insufferable on the show in almost every scene because, you know, she wants to play this, like, in control, this, like, confident, almost like. And you can have a. A character that's kind of like a bitchy type character that you root for. Kind of like Constance Zimmer in that show. The Unreal.
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Maureen Callahan
Yes. Constance Zimmer in Unreal.
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Tim McKay
A performance for the ages, but amazing. And like she had cracks that she didn't want to show. But then by the time, like she fell apart at the, like season four, like you fell for her, like, you felt so bad. Even though she was this monster, Alex is just like, she puts herself into situations and then she wants to back out of it. And Jennifer Aniston does that thing that she loves to do, that's ah, ah, ah, ah, that nervous stutter that she does and tried to back out of every situation. Like, oh, oh, oh, no. It's like you did it to yourself, though. In every episode, Alex, you make a decision that gets you in hot water or you offend somebody or you do something, make some decision. And then we have to listen to her whine about it for the rest of the show. So even that whole little scene, I was like, what was accomplished there? She came to ask for something and then she was too good, too much better than him. She was holier than thou and had to storm out of the room. I just like, I don't like the superiority that her character has and doesn't feel earned.
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Maureen Callahan
I agree with you completely. Great catch on her acting tics, which have been going on since the days of Friends. And if Jennifer would like to spend her money wisely, she should hire an acting coach who will smack those right out of her, those acting ticks. But I also think that scene exists, as you were saying earlier, for them to get on their soapboxes about how superior left leaning media is to anyone who dissents from their orthodoxy. So I think that, I think that, and, and putting those words in the heroine's mouth like you're human trash and you know, your threat to the fourth estate and democracy itself. It's subtle. It's subtle. Okay, now we are going into. This is one of my favorite, by which I mean like most maddening scenes. And we're going to break it into two chunks. Now the interim mia, who is a black woman, is being interviewed for the promotion that she has been ostensibly promised, which is, yes, we've anointed you interim, but that's just a formality. And once the deck is clear, we are going to formally give you the job. And so she wants to be head of programming and she has to go up to the boardroom and pitch herself to the CEO and, and the editor in chief of news, Stella. We'll get to her in a, probably a later show anyway. She has to pitch herself and say why she is the one as linear, linear news, traditional news is disintegrating. Why she is the one to save it and to infuse it with new life. Let's go.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
People need to feel that UBN is going to have it first and they're going to have it right. And that's across all platforms. Tms, evening news, international and digital. Do you think our news is entertaining?
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Maureen Callahan
So the answer that Mia gave, which is, I think what we need to do is break news across all platforms. Now, Tim, did you read the scene literally or did you read it as the writers implying to the viewers that Mia isn't really good at her job?
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Tim McKay
I think, you know, it's actually funny you say that because she really didn't offer anything. All she really did just say just then was, we have to have the news first and we have to have correct news, which is that.
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Maureen Callahan
Which is being in the news business, you want to break the story, have the exclusive and get it out correctly.
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Tim McKay
Yeah. And so I can. I can see why. Marianne Courtyard.
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Maureen Callahan
I know.
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Tim McKay
I just love her name, though. Marianne Kotiaj. She's just staring at her blankly like, what is that supposed to do for anything? And I really. I'm glad that you mentioned Stella. Not to change the subject. I just think that the Stella storyline with Marion and the. The husband, that cheating scandal, that's like, the only interesting part of this whole entire show. I feel like that's the only part that I find, like, scandalous and worthwhile. We're not talking about that, though. It's okay, but.
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Maureen Callahan
No, we will get to it. We will get to it for sure.
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Tim McKay
But I don't think. Yeah, she didn't really do anything, but the show makes her look like such a hardworking. And the way that everyone talks about her on the show is like, she's got it all together. We can't do it without Mia. And then she sits there and she just says, we have to have the news and we have to have it first. And, yeah, it's just funny. I didn't even look at the scene that way.
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Maureen Callahan
That's where the writing of this show and even the acting really confuses me. Because when you're saying all the other characters are like, yeah, Mia really works hard, you know, there are, like, grinders who. They work hard and they can get stuff done, but they don't necessarily have original minds. They're not visionaries. They're not gonna bring network news into the future. And I feel like in this scene, that's kind of what they're telling us, even though the actress playing Mia doesn't seem to get it. Now, let's look at the second part of this, where after Marion Cotillard as you. After she, by the way, her. Edith Piaf is to die. If you haven't seen her. Her performance as Edith, here she is trying to. Once again, the Marion Cotillard says, come on, I'm giving you another chance. Give me something I can work with here. And this is what Mia has to say.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
I don't think it is. We bend over backwards not to offend, and it makes our audience reach for their phones. I think the news is an incredible tool, but we need more circuses and.
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Maureen Callahan
A little less bread.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
Content that grabs anyone on earth with a screen. I'm asking you to think in global terms, Mia. Be bold, be incendiary. Tell me something I haven't heard. My point is.
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Maureen Callahan
I. I appreciate your.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
Commitment to this company, but I'm not sure I see a greater vision here.
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Maureen Callahan
Mia's looking at her like she's a racist.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
I'm interested in breaking the kind of stories that drive actual conversation. That's the core mission of the news. And I think if we do that right, the audience will follow. A nice idea, but it's not sexy.
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Maureen Callahan
I'm sorry. The Marion Cotillard character is talking the language that every CEO of a news network is talking right now. And the Mia character, you know, she said. She says, give me something incendiary. Give me something new that I haven't heard before. And she's like. And then when on the back end of that, she says, I think we just need to break news that drives the national conversation. Honey, news does drive the national conversation. That's how it works. It's baked in to the definition of news. Tim, please help me.
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Tim McKay
That was painful to watch.
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Maureen Callahan
Again.
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Tim McKay
It's just so funny because, you know, I watched the whole four episodes kind of at once. So just to go back to these little moments and just see, I'm like, oh, my God, why did the writers write her like that? Like, do they want her to look stupid? Like she. Where she just sits there and it's so true. Like, Marianne Cotillard didn't do anything wrong in her. Like, tell me what you're going to do if I give you this huge position at this network. What are you going to do for me, Mia? And, like, Mia is just saying things that, like, news has done forever. And it's kind of, again, the definition of what news does. So if you're not gonna bring anything New to the table, then I'm gonna have to go with someone else. It's just kind of how business works. I don't understand. Like, you know, what was the angle? There was like, are we supposed to feel bad for Mia? Exactly like you're saying, Are we supposed to?
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Maureen Callahan
Right, right. And also, can we talk about the costuming in that scene for a moment? Because I. This is what I'm digging. Marion Cotillard, the French CEO, is in a silk olive green bomber jacket that probably retails for $2,500. Sitting next to her is Stella, head of News Entire, who is outfitted in what looks like Japanese design, like, very architecturally modern. Cut. Now at way at the end of the table, Ballin for this job, this big job is Mia. And she's dressed in, like, a pink blazer with, like, pink eyewear. Like, talk to me about what that's communicating to us, Tim.
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Tim McKay
Yes, the very soft matching outfit. It was like a skirt down to the ankle. She walked in very demure when she was walking to work that day. It's giving soft. It's giving kind of the Easter brunch. Like, that's. It was like a yogurt. Pale pink eyeshadow. The matte pink eyeshadow that matched the. I noticed that as well. And I don't know.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah.
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Tim McKay
Bring a little edge. Like, these women that you're talking to clearly have dark lipstick on. They have eye. Like, they just look like they're. They of look mean a little bit, and maybe that's what they want. Like, you walking in like, Little Miss Sunshine and, like, sweet and quiet and like, bring your. I mean, come on, where's the boss lady that you are. When you're yelling at Alex behind the scenes or when you're yelling at Bradley behind the scenes? Like, they want to see that.
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Maureen Callahan
And yes, yes, I agree with you completely. They. They. The Marion and the Stella. Greta Lee character. Stella. They are made to look like, through wardrobe and hair and makeup, modern, edgy, provocative. Don't f with me characters. Okay? And you want to be had a news. You better come in there ready to play. And they. And as you said, they dressed her for Easter brunch. And they ma. Like, is the. The pink. The. The eyeshadow. Do you think that's too matchy? And can you tell us when the pink and mauve eyeshadow trend is going to go away? Because everybody looks like they have pink eye or are consumptive.
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Tim McKay
I think maybe Charlotte Tilbury's brand is a lot to do with that. Because I feel like she came out with, like, that was like her whole brand for a while was like pinks. Like, pinks and oranges and pinky mauve. And I love Charlotte Tilbury. I love her brand. But I. I noticed that, like, a lot of her eyeshadows, like, at least they were for a while, are the pinks and everything. I just think it's too soft and especially in that environment. Like, you're in news. Like, I'm especially corporate news with such a big position. I wonder if they gave her that look to. Because she doesn't even dress like that normally. That's not how Mia's character dresses normally. Something. I wonder, do they want her to appear meek and weak in that interview? Because the outfit definitely did portray that she looked way too sweet and conservative. She didn't look like her normal character in that.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, you know what, Tim? As you're speaking now, I think maybe I understand what they're up to again. It's like you need to assemble a team at Quantico to figure out what they're up to. Over at the morning show. It's a huge mystery. I think perhaps Mia was meant to look like the good girl who plays by the rules, does everything right, and that's what this gets her. Nothing. And the other two at the end of this boardroom are meant to look like the mean witches who will throw their own grandmother under the bus for money and power.
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Tim McKay
The villains 100% and Marion Cotillard love her so much, but she does kind of play this, like, mustache twirling villain in the show a little bit. Like, she seems a little bit like that in, like, the first, like, three episodes. Kind of like, okay, like, alarm bell's going off. Like, villain, villain. Like, everything that she says is so, like, mysterious. But then you've actually. I felt bad for her when they find out that her husband's. When she found out her husband's cheating on her with Stella.
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Maureen Callahan
Again, like, this strains credulity to me because as I've. I've had this. I. There. There are two kinds of stories that get broken in newsrooms. One is the actual news. Whatever's going on on any given day, when all of that's put to bed, it's reporters reporting on other reporters in the newsroom you have never met. Like, you know, we have a lot of men who write into the nerve, and they're like, hey, Maureen, like, don't tell anyone, but, like, I'm a super straight heterosexual male with a real blue collar job and I love the nerve. And I'm like, hey, I've met you a million times. You're in newsrooms across America. It's the truth. Okay, so anyway, moving on. Now we have to move on to the Billy Crudup. Now, to my mind, Billy Crudup is the best actor on the show. He is acting in a different show. He is elevating this material, and he is putting top spins on these balls that nobody can see coming. And his scene partners just aren't up to par. I'm sorry. I don't know why the writers have done this, but they are now developing a romance between Billy Crudup's Corey and Reese Witherspoon's character Bradley, who at the end of season. The last season, I don't even know how many seasons in We Are. Anyway, Corey professed his love to the Rhys character, and Rhys said, no, Please don't say this. I don't want to hear it. It's. I don't feel the same way. Suddenly, now Rhys has changed her mind. Trust me, women never change their minds about this kind of thing. Okay, so we're gonna watch this most awkward love scene, and you tell me. And by the way, if you're listening, go watch this part on. On the YouTube channel, because these two actors are doing everything to delay the kiss. You can tell they do not want to kiss each other. Let's go. If.
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Tim McKay
You wanted me to, you know, keep my distance. Keep your distance. I could do that. I'll let you know. Never have to.
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Maureen Callahan
They're moving closer together.
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Tim McKay
Yeah.
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Maureen Callahan
30S screwball dialogue for the ages. There's. They still haven't kissed. They still haven't kissed. Reese is going in, and they really look. Now they're kissing, and they really look like they are just seriously, like, actually, Billy Crudup puts his arm up over her face. So, like, they. Like, they can maybe cheat it and get out of it. I mean, Tim, please help me. Help me.
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Tim McKay
I even wrote. I even wrote in my notes, like, when they kiss, I put ew. I just put ew. It just reminds me of, like, her uncle or something. Like, they're both such good parts of the show, but it's such a 180 from everything else. Like, especially. I don't like when a character is a lesbian for a season. And then.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah, we forgot completely about Juliana Margulies, who she was with.
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Tim McKay
She was off the show. Well, this show. This show loves to forget about people. Like, do you forget that Alex Levy has a daughter amongst all this drama? Like, yes, I do have a daughter.
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Maureen Callahan
Yes, I do.
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Tim McKay
It seems like she forgot half the time, but, yeah. So she was a lesbian and then now she's just seeing her get with Corey. And it's like the show is, like, forcing all this sexual tension that just is out of nowhere. And it's just seeing the two of them, like, they're both pretty sterile characters. I don't know. Cory's just like this, like. He's like this uncle type. This, like, kind of, I don't know, goofy guy, nerdy guy.
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Maureen Callahan
Yes.
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Tim McKay
But then to see them, like, do this, like, slow, like, will they, won't they moment, that freaks me out. My skin was crawling. And then later, when she's getting her microphone put on and he's like, up her skirt and all this stuff, I'm like, ew.
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Commercial Announcer
Now they're doing it at work and.
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Tim McKay
They'Re like, after everything of season one, I just think. I'm like, what's going on here? Why is this show right?
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Maureen Callahan
Season one, which was all about me, too.
- [27:47]
Tim McKay
Yes. And it's just. That's the thing about the show is there's 800 plot lines that they're trying to cram in to eat, like, to this one thing. That's why it's so hard to follow. I had to, like, rewind a few times because I'm like, wait, what's going on now? Like, they're in love now. Okay.
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Maureen Callahan
This is one of the worst. Again. Like, I can't believe this is considered prestige tv. Like, I can't believe Apple. Like, we're all hate watching it. It's the same thing within. Just like that. You're getting eyeballs because we all are hating on it. And then we're gonna go to the opening of episode four before we get into Jennifer in the Real World. And once again, may I just say it. I'm dying. You guys are all trying to help me to get into season three of the Newsreader over here in the States. And it is yeoman's work. I miss the news reader so much. We are going to take a look at the opening of episode four. This is the meteorologist, the male meteorologist, Yanko. And he is doing a dry run, a rehearsal of his marriage proposal. Incipient marriage proposal to a co worker. So here we go. We're gonna take a look at it. I have to talk over this because there's a music licensing issue. And so, first of all, this guy does not present as heterosexual. Number two, we are dancing to Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give youe Up and Rick Rowling Morning was a phenomenon that I believe happened 10 to 15 years ago. Tim, have you ever seen anything like this in all of your time on these. On these sets and in these newsrooms?
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Tim McKay
I feel like maybe this is something like. Well, no, not that choreographed. Absolutely not. But, like, I was like, I can see maybe silly games like that on the Today show, like, between, like, Jenna and, like, you know, sometimes they play silly games, but not choreographed musical numbers. That looks like it took time, and then they don't even end up doing it on the show. I think it's funny because his character is stiff, and we don't really care about his character that much on the show.
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Maureen Callahan
We have no investment in him whatsoever.
- [29:52]
Tim McKay
None. Whatever. None whatsoever. I mean, I don't even really care that he's getting engaged or that he's supposed to.
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Maureen Callahan
I don't even know who he's getting engaged to. I don't know this person out of.
- [30:03]
Tim McKay
Nowhere, and then it makes you think, like, are we supposed to know? Do we know this exactly.
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Maureen Callahan
Is it my fault? Don't blame the victim, Tim. Don't.
- [30:09]
Tim McKay
Yeah, victim. Blaming the whole audience.
- [30:12]
Maureen Callahan
But, I mean, you and I as well.
- [30:14]
Tim McKay
Yeah, that's true.
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Maureen Callahan
We're very smart people, and we consume a lot of culture, and we're having trouble keeping the threads of these stories together. I also love. And we'll get to this. We're going to get to this the next time we recap. Jeremy Irons playing Jennifer Aniston's father. I mean, who is the casting director over there?
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Tim McKay
Well, they don't know what to do with Alex's character. Like, first she's, like, with the Iranian girl, then she's talking about AI, and then now it's about her dad. Like, they can't settle on a plot line for her.
- [30:42]
Maureen Callahan
Like, she's like, oh, don't forget Jon Hamm coming back, too.
- [30:44]
Tim McKay
Oh, and John, for one episode. Just so that she could, like, weaken her character even more by, like, confessing that she's just jealous. Okay. But, you know, Taylor's oldest time, he, of course, is, like, the greatest person ever, now that they're not together. And he's just a good guy, and she just has to be okay with that one. Of course, he's got a new, like.
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Maureen Callahan
A Mal Clooney, like, girlfriend.
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Tim McKay
Yeah. Who's, like, the sweetest person ever and gorgeous. But. Yeah. No, with the. With the other guy. With the meteorologist. Yeah. I just thought it was funny because we don't really care about him. So just seeing this, we have to go through a whole two minutes or however long the song is. And we're just. The whole time, we're just like, okay, is this a joke? Because we don't care about him.
- [31:25]
Maureen Callahan
And why are they spending so much time on this musical number? It's like, you're wasting too long. Oh, can we get into first two really quick questions. Number one, have you met Amal Clooney?
- [31:35]
Tim McKay
Amal Clooney? Who's that?
- [31:37]
Maureen Callahan
Oh, when I said Jon Hamm's character has an Amal Clooney like, girlfriend, and you said, oh, sweetest and nicest person ever.
- [31:44]
Tim McKay
Oh, no, I just meant on the show. The girl. Yes, yes, yes, exactly.
- [31:49]
Maureen Callahan
Secondly, the set piece of episode four. And if you haven't seen it, you and I will get into it. Really? Next week. But the whole coverage of the mid air plane disaster.
- [32:02]
Tim McKay
Oh, my God, yes.
- [32:04]
Maureen Callahan
And they're like, how do we cover this? They're a news outlet, right? This is. This is the. This is the Mia characters, leadership. There's a plane in midair, A passenger plane packed. The one of the doors has. Has. Has just been blown out. People are live streaming. People are live streaming. We're gonna die. We're gonna die. And then down at UBN in the newsroom, they're like, how do we cover this?
- [32:28]
Tim McKay
It's chaos down there. It's a complete and utter chaos. They're in the newsroom. Everyone's screaming. And I love how that one girl is like, okay, whoever doesn't need to be in here, get out. And the whole room scatters out. The whole. Half the room cleared out. I was like, from her, like, mumbling that under her breath, like, everyone that doesn't need to be here, get out. Room clears out. I'm like, so what were all these people doing anyways? Why are you all in the control room? No, it just looked like chaos. It's because Mia wasn't there. And you know, Mia is the only one that knows.
- [32:52]
Maureen Callahan
You're right. But you know who came in to save the day? Star of the show, Jennifer Aniston. Suddenly she's a news director.
- [33:01]
Tim McKay
Yeah, she's the executive producer now because she just hopped right in there with Chip. With Chip. I'm like, I wouldn't lay in the.
- [33:10]
Maureen Callahan
Duplass Brothers to me. Explain the chip. Like, they are just milk toast. I don't get it. I don't get it. They made some major sacrifices, I think, for their careers. Anyway. Okay, let's go to Jennifer Aniston. Who is here. We see there she, she's doing some media promotion with her co stars on the morning show. And we're going to make clear again, there's only one real star of this show because she's sitting apart from them. They're all lined up together. You know, again, Billy Crudup, the superior actor among all of them. And we're gonna play a little trivia game, a little narcissistic trivia game with one Jennifer Aniston. Let's take a look, Tim, and then we will discuss what Guinness world record do I hold? Whoa, whoa. Billy Croup's doing a lot here by the way. Oh, okay, I'm gonna say something. I know. I think I have a guess. Reese, can I give it to you or. No, I guess showing us what it is, I have a guess. Am I right? Highest paid TV actress of all time? No, but wouldn't that be nice? Well, she doesn't have enough covers of a magazine. Oh my God, they are kissing her ass. No, Reese, what you should say is when she says she wasn't the highest paid actress, you go, that's because it's me.
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Tim McKay
Oh, that's right.
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Maureen Callahan
She's got. Oh, that's right.
- [34:31]
Tim McKay
Yes.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, they're all so relatable. Okay, we can just stop right there because I can't. They don't understand. They are not doing their jobs here. They are not winning us over. Jennifer Aniston's record is she got the most Instagram followers upon joining Instagram. Congrats, Jen. You know, so it's not a Nobel, it's not a humanity. Like Meghan Markle's over here in New York collecting humanitarian awards. But you got the most Instagram followers upon joining. Tim, what are your, what's your, what's your take on Jennifer Aniston these days?
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Tim McKay
I just. Well, I mean, I think it's funny too that it looked like she was excited to. Like I'd be a little bit embarrassed like if, if it's a question about me, my friends and my co workers are there and it's just like, oh, it's all this obviously praise questions about myself that I have to ask them. Like, I don't know, I have a little like humility with it. Like oh my God, this is so silly. I don't know, something to like bring yourself down to earth. But instead it's like she's so excited. Like haha, look everybody, look what it is. Like that was just a little, a little funny. But I don't know I love Jennifer Aniston. Back in the 2000s, I thought she. I loved, like, she was always playing herself pretty much just the same mannerisms in every single role. But she was always a cute, sweet girl. And I. And I always liked that woman, I should say. And, yeah, I don't know, I just thought that that little interview right there was a little. A little weird.
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Maureen Callahan
Okay, I agree. And I'm going to share this piece of insider gossip with you guys because she's become insufferable. And I'll talk. I'll tell this as we look at her Harper's Bazaar cover, in which an accompanying celebrity profile. Cover profile, in which she says that she's very camera shy. Look at this cover and you tell me that all of the fame and attention. It does affect me is the quote. I'm just a human being. Jennifer Aniston on fame, freedom and false narratives. I'm riveted. This is the subject of every interview if we're not talking about her hair care or her skin care or her exercise program, because that's all that's going on in that brain. So I have it on extremely good authority that during the first season of Friends, Jennifer Aniston was nearly fired because she was the worst and the weakest actor of the group. And she was told, get yourself to a really good acting coach immediately, post haste, or we're writing you out. And you can tell there's a major difference between season one and season two. If you go back and look at season one, her voice is very high pitched. It's almost screechy. She's very flat. Her timing is very. It's all off. And she, you can tell she really worked with somebody because her comedic timing got better and better and better. Her voice got deeper. She learned to control her pitch and her volume. And, you know, this is a girl who lucked into the role of a lifetime on a once in a generation show. And sorry, sister, I don't want to hear you gripe about how hard your life is right now.
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Tim McKay
I mean, yeah, wasn't she. I remember when that show was airing, when Friends was airing and they announced that, like, I think they were the first cast to each make a million dollars an episode. And it was like this big news. I mean, maybe now that that's. Maybe nowadays that's a little bit more common. I don't think so. Even though.
- [37:48]
Maureen Callahan
No, I don't think so. And I think we're all meant to applaud them as if this redounded to our benefit some way. That they're making, you know, $15 million a year.
- [37:59]
Tim McKay
They're winners. They're heroes. Winners and heroes, right?
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Maureen Callahan
They fought for what they deserved.
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Tim McKay
Yeah. And honestly, I mean, those kind of shows are the cheapest ones to make. So putting. Giving all the money to the cast is pretty easy when you have like a multi cam show like that because you don't have to change the lighting, you don't have to change anything. But yeah, no, I think she's. She has plenty of money, so she doesn't need to be the wealthiest actress or the highest paid actress. I think she's doing just.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah, just quit your griping. Just how much, how greedy can you get? All right, now moving on to our favorite sprightly 900 year old heroine, who, according to Rob Shooter, is still out there in the, in these streets flogging a potential new iteration of Sex and the City. Okay, she showed Tim. No good. She showed up on Wednesday night in New York City at the New York City Ballet on the red carpet. Now, her husband is literally the equivalent of her handbag here. I actually think she probably treats her accessories a lot better. Let's look at her on the red carpet. Tim, for those. Again, for those of you listening, Google this image or come over to join us on YouTube. She's dressed in like this. It's a black angel gown. Like, she's. Her. This is like, you know, when the angel comes down from the heavens and angels of America and like it's got like the wings of the archangel Michael. I mean, this is like out of control. This is like now we don't need attention. We don't really need that much attention. Tell me, tell, tell me. Just you can, you can speak, by the way, to the hours of hair and makeup and wardrobing that goes into a look like this on a red carpet.
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Tim McKay
Oh, absolutely. She looked like she was pulled back. That hair was pulling everything back.
- [39:51]
Maureen Callahan
Her Croydon facelift.
- [39:53]
Tim McKay
Exactly. The facelift.
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Maureen Callahan
The.
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Tim McKay
No, but the skin was like glowing and beautiful. But I think the outfit was giving. Angel of Darkness.
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Johnny Mac
Yes.
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Tim McKay
When I was in school, like I still remember I was in the eighth grade, we had to go on a camping trip and there was this one group of girls that went up and sang a theme song called the Angels of Darkness. And that's all I can hear when I see her on the red carpet. Like, we are, we are the angels of darkness. It was this whole thing that I can still remember. And I hear that playing when I see her walking on the red carpet with those wings.
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Maureen Callahan
Do you think she's telling us that she is the dark avenging angel who is going to make sure that Carrie Bradshaw comes back into our lives?
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Tim McKay
I don't know. She seems like the grim reaper of Sex and the City and just like walking around like, someone take the show from me, please. And no one's really interested.
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Maureen Callahan
You know the other thing about her, which, she famously did this New Yorker profile several years ago. I believe Rachel Syme was the journalist. And it was like a multi day long interview. And she says to Rachel, hey, like, I'm on the board of the New York City Ballet and like, opening night is this week. Why don't you meet me up at Alice Tully Hall, Lincoln center, whatever, and we'll go together. And so Rachel in the piece writes about fretting over what she should wear because she's meeting a style icon. I'll put that in quotes. And I'll wink and I'll nod at you. At the New York City Ballet. And so she, she. There's this very sort of like, poignant scene where she's like, I picked out this dress, I went shopping. I'm sure she spent something far above her salary to try to impress Sarah Jessica Parker. And she shows up and Sarah Jessica is sitting there in jeans and like a cardigan, and she's like, oh, look at how cute you are dressing up. You know, and it was such a bitch move because all she had to do is text the writer and say, listen, I, I don't typically dress up for these things. Like, you can just come sort of casual. I wear like a nice jean and like a nice sweater, but that's it. Like, don't feel the need to come in a ball gown. And I think she was really trying to fucking make this writer feel inferior. Because the real problem, I think, is that Sarah Jessica Parker intellectually feels inferior to a New Yorker writer. And if you've ever tried to listen to Sarah Jessica Parker speak extemporaneously, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Tim McKay
And especially if you see someone, especially if you see someone coming in that's like dressed up like, you know, really nice, obviously put a lot of effort into it. And you realize like, you didn't yourself, like, instead of just like showering this person with like, oh, my God, you look amazing. You look so incredible. It's just like, oh, how cute you dressed up. Like, that's just, it's a condescending compliment. Like, it's kind of just like, it's very like a double backhanded compliment. Kind of thing.
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Maureen Callahan
It was a very mean girl thing to do. And it took some strategizing and some planning. And she was looking for. She was licking her chops, waiting for this woman to walk in so she could mock her. And that's why I believe Sarah Jessica Parker ran a mean girl set all day long on Sex and the City and at Just like that. And I'm team Kim Cattrall till I die. Okay, Meghan Markle at Paris Fashion Week. Our last look. Now, Megan, the white. The white on white on white on white Messiah gown. Or some people call it the toilet paper gown. Then there was the black Diana dress. But what I'm most interested from you is Meghan in the front row caught on video at Balenciaga. The reports are a model tripped. And she laughed. And she turned to her friend, the head of the entire Soho House enterprise, and looked to him as if to be like, hey, funny, right? Somebody got hurt. Somebody got humiliated. And he wouldn't even look at her. He just. He. And he shook his head no. Like, we don't do that. We don't do that.
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Tim McKay
It's not that kind of show. Like, that's not the. Like, I don't know, when you laugh at somebody else, it usually just means that you're uncomfortable or that you're nervous. I feel like. Especially when people make fun of other people. Like in an environment like that where it's like someone tripped, like, clearly the person's obviously mortified and they're trying to do their job. Like, you're just embarrassed. I don't know. It just seems very mean girl. And it seemed like she was probably nervous to be there because she knows she doesn't really belong.
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Maureen Callahan
I think you're right.
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Tim McKay
Fashion environment. So she walks in giddy, and people have put those clips side by side of her walking into the event with a black dress on and her walking in with a white dress on. And she does the exact same pose, the exact. Her arm is in the same place. If you compare the two clips, her arms in the same place. And she walks in, like, the exact same walk. And it's almost like that's how she prepared it and that's how she did it. This. She said, this is Fashion Week, and this is how I have to be. Be ready to go. And it's just kind of like, Megan, you don't belong there. And you're a mean girl, and it's no fashion me clown.
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Maureen Callahan
I think you are right now. I think she's also a sadist and a psychopath. Who gets off on the misery of others. But I think you're right. For multiple reasons, I think you're absolutely right that she felt she did not belong there. And she knows it. She doesn't belong there. I think she feels inferior to supermodels who are twice her height. We know she's got an issue with her height. It's obvious. The practiced Zoolander walk where we're not even blinking, like nothing's moving except our legs and we're surrounded by six bodyguards in like a Parisian showroom for a blink. Like there are people there more famous than you, Megan. And somebody compared. Apparently there's this meme going around that I haven't seen but I'm very jealous of. It's the Star Wars Darth Vader theme. Dun dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. You know, the stormtroopers coming in. It's perfect, right?
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Tim McKay
It's perfect. And who do you think you are? Like Kim Kardashian? I mean, it's funny because she is a big celebrity, Meghan Markle. But I don't think anyone cares enough to even, like, cause you harm. Like, I just don't think anybody.
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Maureen Callahan
The worst thing you could say to.
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Tim McKay
Her, I don't think. I genuinely don't think anyone even cares enough to give you harm. Like, I. I genuinely don't think that you would need. You could have went there by yourself and been just fine. But. Yeah, but it's also because she doesn't have any friends and she doesn't have anyone else to go with. So, like, why not walk in with people that you've paid to be there with you?
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Maureen Callahan
Great point. She doesn't have any friends and she doesn't have anyone to be there with. And so the bodyguards are the over compensation.
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Tim McKay
Yeah, that way.
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Maureen Callahan
By bodyguards. But it can't really buy friends.
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Tim McKay
No, and clearly not, because then she tries to laugh with somebody, like you said, and they didn't even give her the time of day. They didn't even respond to it because it's like. No, that's humiliating. Clearly. So we don't need someone laughing at it. No.
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Maureen Callahan
God, it really is. It's like. It's like it chills the blood. It's like she. She that. Good luck getting invited to another fashion show of any preeminence. Again, Megan, showing yourself as the classless bitch that you are.
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Tim McKay
I agree. I agree. I wonder if she was dressed for that fashion show, like, by Balencia. Was that. Was she wearing.
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Maureen Callahan
So Rob Shooter was on the show on the Nerve earlier this week. And he said. Because I had the same question, he said, no, she was definitely invited by the house because she's wearing the new collection. And you can tell if you're not invited by the house if you're wearing Last season or you purchase something or you're styled in vintage. So.
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Tim McKay
Okay. Well, I mean, I just didn't think they did her any favors with it. Like.
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Maureen Callahan
Well, I think they fucked her over.
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Tim McKay
Yeah. And it's like, you can deliberately. They said, we're giving you outfits that you can't do anything fun with your hair and makeup. You have to literally do nothing with it because you're just gonna be swallowed by this snuggie. Remember Snuggies?
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah.
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Tim McKay
She basically wore Snuggie.
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Maureen Callahan
Jim, by the way, I can't believe I didn't ask you this, but before I let you go, I gotta ask you. You know, Daniel, the makeup artist, was all over social media in the aftermath of this, taking his victory lap, going. For all of you who want to know how I got this amazing look on Megan, I will tell you, Tim, you are a true artist. Tell me what you make of that job.
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Tim McKay
I don't know who's wondering that. I haven't seen anything. I haven't seen one post. I haven't seen one trending thing, anything. Anyone wondering what her makeup. But I'm also like, what did you do? Like, she looked like she was hydrated.
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Maureen Callahan
She looked like she was slathered in Vaseline.
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Tim McKay
That's literally it. And I get that. That's very Runway. I mean, I've done plenty of Runway myself. Makeup for Runway. I've done makeup for celebrities going into Runway. Yeah, she looked wet. Like. Okay. It's not like this insane look, but, I mean, I feel like a lot of makeup artists do that. And I'm not gonna say anything bad about him. I'm sure he's wonderful, but I just think nobody really cares about Megan. But proud of you for getting some work, Daniel. Good for you. That's awesome.
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Maureen Callahan
Good for you. And our. Our parting salvo to end this segment is that the reports are that Meghan and Daniel flew to Paris together, and Megan flew first, and Daniel flew coach.
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Tim McKay
That's hilarious. She couldn't even get him in, like, Delta Comfort Plus.
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Maureen Callahan
True. The lament for the ages. You couldn't even get him in Delta Comfort Plus.
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Tim McKay
Jesus, Coach. She said, you bring one suitcase, one.
- [48:53]
Maureen Callahan
Bag la to Paris. You're looking at the 15 hours in the air.
- [48:57]
Tim McKay
Yeah. Middle seat.
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Maureen Callahan
She's a bitch. You know it. You know, back by the bathrooms. Daniel, wake up, wake up.
- [49:06]
Tim McKay
Family be damned, back in America.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah. Tim, I love you so much. Thank you.
- [49:11]
Tim McKay
I love you, Maureen. Thank you so much for having me.
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Maureen Callahan
Until next week when we're back at it at the morning show. Causing more trouble.
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Tim McKay
Can't wait. Thank you so much.
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Maureen Callahan
See you soon. That's it. That's it. For our, for our top segment, we went a little over but Tim is fascinating and he's got all the great, greatest observations and greatest insider information. And so we, you know, Tim is, Tim is in our VIP room in the, in the woodshed where we have fun with, you know, where we're putting people. Okay. Up next, your feedback. We are back in a minute. Today's show is sponsored by Cowboy Colostrum. Colostrum is the first milk that babies baby cows receive from their mothers after birth. But it's often referred to as liquid gold because it is packed with proteins, natural growth factors and antimicrobial three factors that can enhance your immune response, reduce inflammation and repair and balance gut lining. The ultimate result, it can reduce bloating and can make your hair and skin glow. Cowboy Colostrum offers the highest quality cow colostrum in the US they don't over process or strip it. They leave it whole with full fat and high protein for ultimate nutrient density. It is sourced from 100% grass fed cows here in the United States with all natural ingredients and no artificial flavors. I've tried it. I love it. You just add it to your coffee, to your smoothie. It comes with this really cool little frother. Frothing it up is like really satisfying. And then you have this like really beautiful drink that's so simple and it's so easy going down. So for a limited time, our listeners get up to 25% off their entire order. Just head to cowboy colostrum.com Maureen and use code MAUREEN at checkout. That's 25% off when you use code MAUREEN@cowboycolostrum.com Maureen after your purchase, they are going to ask you where you heard about them. Please tell them you are a troublemaker and that the nerve sent you.
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Maureen Callahan
We are back. Now before I get to your feedback. And we've got a lot of it. It was so, so good. So good. I just wanted to take a moment to mention Joan Kennedy, the ex wife of Senator Ted Kennedy, the late Senator Ted Kennedy, who died this week at age 89. I wrote about Joan in my book Ask not. The Kennedys and the Women they Destroyed. And I didn't really know much about Joan before I started writing and reporting Ask Not. And while I was working on her story, she became one of my absolute favorites. She was a really beautiful, kind young woman who found herself ensnared in the Kennedy family. She actually tried to get out of marrying Ted. She had only seen him, like twice before. He, like, gave her an engagement ring. And Ted's father Joe said, no effing way. Nobody dumps one of my sons. She wound up married to him. She had children with him. She endured a lot. She endured a lot. It's all in the book. Just unthinkable things. But Joan had a really, really deep inner reserve of strength that she called upon when it was most necessary. She was a true survivor. And when she died on Wednesday, you know, she had outlived her famous sisters in law, Ethel Kennedy and Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. Joan was the last of her generation to go, and with her goes a lot of history. And so I just wanted to mention her on the show because she was really, really consequential. And if you're interested and you can read it in the book or you can find it elsewhere, but I talk a lot about how when she, Ted really manipulated her into campaigning for him when he was running for president, and she suddenly, the women's movement, feminist movement, it clicked with her. She didn't think it was for her, and then she realized it was. And she became a star on that campaign trail, an absolute star. Just a total object lesson in, you know, so many times. We've all had these times in our lives where we think we couldn't possibly do a job or pull something off or that accomplishment might be beyond our reach. And you can look at the Joan Kennedy story for just utter inspiration and just an object lesson in that not being the case that, you know, sometimes we really can surprise ourselves. Okay, anyway, now onto your feedback. First, I want to read. This was in the YouTube section. This was a commenter who said, and this was at the Nerve at night which you guys really responded to. And we're so happy because we love doing the Nerve at night. This troublemaker says, fighting my nerves as I am headed for a bone marrow biopsy in the a.m. the nerve sustains me. I'll be thinking about all that was discussed tonight as I am on the procedure table tomorrow. And Troublemaker, our thoughts are with you and we hope everything turned out okay. Either way, though, come hang out at the Nerve and come join our substack and just take solace in our community here in our little Nerve fam, as one of you guys called it. And I also want to say that I saw the Troublemaker who commented on the YouTube channel under, I believe, the Nerve at night, who said that you have been struggling with clinical depression for your entire life and that there are some weeks where you can't get out of bed. And you again, the Nerve is a great distraction for you and we make you laugh and that you feel ashamed at times of what you've got, of the illness that you've got. And I saw the comments back to you. And again, we have like the a gold star of audience and community members and troublemakers because every single response was encouragement and support and commiseration and saying that there are people out there in our community who've been through it and go through it and suffer from it. And I just hope that landed with you. Troublemaker, we see you and there is no need for shame. Depressed, you have a brain. There's something, there's something with the chemistry in your brain that is not your fault. So we are with you. Now. This is from a troublemaker named Scott and the header of this email is Operation Splinter Storm. Now, Scott says, Maureen, I did not see anything in the merch shop shopthenerve.com for the regular guy demographic. So I thought I would add to the pool of ideas that we have coming in. See Operation Splinter Storm T shirt attached. And I gotta tell you, Scott, this is going to the top of the pile for our next round of merch. Okay, now onto your emails. This is from. Okay, now, I mispronounced. I read this troublemaker's email in a recent show and I mispronounced her first name and I feel terrible. She says it's Kirsten, not Kristen. And I am so sorry, Kirsten. She says this happens all the time. I am so sure it does. And how annoying for you. Okay, now as to you know what, I just sort of opened the this segment with Joan. Kirsten says let's keep the memory of the women that the Kennedys expect us to forget alive, perhaps, and in memory of segment on their birth and death dates. And you know, Kirsten, you are reading my mind because in the last week of October, Martha Moxley's the anniversary of her death is coming up and I was already planning to acknowledge that. And I really like your idea a lot. I really do. And she also says troublemaker K. I finally joined Instagram so that I can take part in your polls. We love it. Okay, now follow feedback to our Ryan Reynolds piece, which just like the wood chipper, was built for a Ryan Reynolds. Okay, again, he set fire to his elementary school in a small town in Canada and admitted to it. Hi Maureen, I'm pretty sure Ryan's dad was a cop. That's likely how he got away with shit like burning down the school, bullying, etc. Try to check out the interview that Canadian broadcaster Ian Hannomansing, if I'm saying your name correctly, did on the national. We will check it out. I also bet that Alanis Morissette, whom Ryan was engaged to for 2.5 years, she dumped his ass Per would have some good stories to tell as well as Scarlet J. Dear Maureen, one detail to add to your feature on Ryan Reynolds alleged. It's not alleged. He confessed to it. Arson of his elementary school was that Ryan's father was a Mountie, I. E. On the RCMP police force, charged with investigating crimes, including arson. I wasn't able. You guys are so good. Like you went and you're trying to find this stuff out. I wasn't able to quickly determine when his father, James Chester Reynolds, retired from the rcmp. But there's a strong possibility he would have been on the force in 1987 at the time of the fire, age 45. Even if he had already retired, there would still be strong ties and I'm sure any whiff of criminal activity would have brought shame to both him and his family. It actually makes me wonder why James retired from the RCMP to become a food wholesaler. Ryan has joked that that his act, that that was his actual job and not a CIA cover. And that's because Ryan's a piece of shit who's taken his father down a peg. Incidentally, one of Ryan's brothers, Terry is a Mountie, and Ryan has stated that he considered following in his father's footsteps as well. Now, Ryan was estranged from his father for 10 years. And by the way, American Predator. I was talking to you guys about that other book that I wrote in which I said I learned from these FBI agents that arsonists like. It's sexual for them. Fire is. They get sexually excited by setting fires and watching them burn and watching the fire department try to put them out and watching people cry as they lose everything. Not saying Ryan does that. I'm just saying arsonists in general do that. So what was oh oh? So the serial killer at the heart of American Predator, when they finally caught him, said, you know what I really did consider doing with my life was becoming a police officer. And you know why? Nobody's going to suspect a police officer of a goddamn thing. What better way? Maureen, what a banger the nerve at night was. Well, thank you, troublemaker. This is Nathalie Kennedy, a frequent flyer. And Nathalie, if I am not saying your name right, please correct me. Nathalie says it's true. There is nothing like the sound of a wood chipper in the morning. This morning we have Jennifer Aniston, Jenny in the D Daily Mail doing a cover piece for Harper's Bazaar, as discussed with Tim, this time hoping to correct the narrative on her fertility journey. Frankly, Jen, none of us care. None of us care. All while dressed in $100,000 worth of designer garb. Please send her to the wood chipper forever when we're done with our morning show recaps. Nathalie. Okay, first things first. Dear Maureen, this is from troublemaker Laura, who goes by low, loves the nerve, and is hoping we can fill up. Go to five days a week. That is our goal, friends. That is our goal. My reason for writing is to say, mission accomplished. I will no longer be watching any of Ryan Reynolds movies. I have been really trying to like him for about 25 years. It's a really long time since I share a birthday with him. Go to an astrologer who might cleanse you of the time of your birth. I like half believe in astrology. Anyway, laura goes on, his smugness always kept me from really enjoying anything that he did. It's a good thing I don't put much stock into astrology. I'd be worried about myself that you even ask yourself the question. Laura means you're so good. You're so good. Hi, Maureen. Troublemaker Sharon, I'm an Aussie and I'm writing regarding the interview Keith Urban did on Oz Radio, which we replayed and there's video footage of it. It's. It's great. You should go watch it because Keith is like. He's like, stop asking. He's so visibly uncomfortable. Anyway, Sharon says the co host, Amanda Keller, has been around the block many times and is a very intelligent and savvy woman. She has been involved in the media, mainly TV actually for many years and is as sharp as attack. There is no way in all caps she would have asked the questions she asked Keith without knowing something or at least wanting to probe. Keith's body language said it all. And this is your tease for the mini. Keith's body language said it all. And it's not just Keith we're talking about and I think you guys know what I'm talking about. It's going to be a banger. Going to be a banger. Also, I would successfully I I would like to sincerely thank you for your segment on Patty Chayefsky. I am ashamed to don't be ashamed. All of us have stuff we've never heard of. I'd not heard of this man, but I simply adored his Oscar speech and I feel it should be played at the beginning of every award ceremony in perpetuity as a reminder to the pampered and overly self important celebrities that we do not want to hear about their political opinions whether at an awards ceremony or anywhere else. What a hero. Book Recommendation Good Girl, Bad Girl by Michael Rowbotham. Sharon's a book I've never heard of. No Shame. I've never heard of it. Now I'm going to look into it. You say Freaking unputdownable. I loved the guest by the way. This is great. We should have Troublemaker book recommendations in the substack too. Okay. Hi Maureen, on the nerve at night today. You shared a letter. Because we're asking you guys for your dilemmas and your conundrums and then we're all going to work to solve them together. You shared a letter that a viewer wrote where she said that invites were sent out with a hard RSVP date. Her friend had her husband follow up with some lame we'll try. As long as something doesn't come up. Troublemaker Allison suggests reaching out to offer a response. Thanks for the heads up. It sounds like this is a tricky time for you. I'll go ahead and confirm the guest list without you. Alison. That is an elegant solution. I wish I had thought of it myself. Maureen, avowed troublemaker here. When you played the trailer of Chelsea Clinton's soon to Bomb podcast. You know what we should call it? A Bomb Cast. That should be the portmanteau. Chelsea's Bomb Cast. Her bomb of a podcast. I couldn't help but notice that she has the same voice as none other than Her Highness Meghan Markle, seriously, Methinks that the narcissism dies hard in those two sufferers of main character syndrome. Very eloquent. Hi, Maureen. I seem to be behind, but now, watching the Nerve at night, you very quickly made a comment about Garth Brooks being a serial killer. What? Please deep dive on Garth Brooks. We will do this. We will do this. Working theory out there that I was just made aware of that Garth Brooks, possibly. I mean, you know, it's all in fun, but we'll do it. We'll do it. Hi, Maureen. This is from troublemaker Aaron. I think your judgeship is on the way. I got a kick out of you asking the troublemakers if they had a connection to the Dick Wolf world. I would die to be a judge on any of the Law and Orders currently in production. Hi, Maureen. I am Italian, and at 4pm when your podcast drops here in Europe, I can't wait to put my headphones on and laugh with you about these morons who live in Hollywood. I am an actress and always dreamed of being part of that world, but now, as an adult of almost 40, I am happy to do small things and dive into theater. I believe that the moral price to be part of that world is too high. So thanks for reminding us and showing the world that the simple life that they so desperately try to make us all believe is dull and unimportant is actually the best way to live. Troublemaker Juliana. Beautiful name. I could not agree with you more. Also about Amanda Knox. What do you think about her? Honestly, her new show made me sick to my stomach. You know, listen, I agree. I think, you know, this girl would have done anything to become famous. I think it's very strange to be really constantly seeking the spotlight and all manner of Hollywood productions based on a young girl losing her life in a violent, tragic, savage assault that, if I recall correctly, was sexual as well. I think it's. I think it's ghoulish. I think it's very strange. You know, I talked about Amanda very early on in the Nerve, and I got an email from someone who said, listen, I'm friends with her, I know her, and I think if you met her, you would think differently. But I don't know. I don't know. And I think this pairing with Monica Lewinsky is really ghoulish. Like they're both stuck in the worst times of their lives again, healthy, integrated people. You get some therapy, you work it out, you make your peace with it as best you can, and you move on with your life. Who wants to Revisit the savage murder of a college kid. All right. Okay. I think we can all guess who this is from. We begin with my darling comma. Are you of the opinion that the $150 million acquisition of Bari, of Bari Weiss and the Free Press by CBS News is enough to save the network from oblivion? Many on the right side of the aisle are hopeful. I, however, am not dying for your response. Love you too much. Troublemakers. It's Armando. Armando. We love you too much. Armando. I do not think. I don't understand why someone who escaped from legacy media is going back to legacy media, the scene of the crime. Listen, from what I know, and I can't say how I know it, she is very high on her own supply. We are having dinner with billionaires in their lairs. The Bill Ackman's of the World Weekly. And we are being told by them what a genius we are. And how we're saving news and sanity. And. And I also know. And again, this is all anonymously sourced. But she's not a great manager of people. And there was a great story in the New York Post in the business section the other day about CBS News being a notoriously difficult place for outsiders to really gain traction. Because when they don't like you or they don't want you, they band together. And she can't fire the whole newsroom. Maureen, Chelsea Clinton's head bobbing made me dizzy. Maybe Dr. Jill will be a guest. Their combined depth of knowledge will be enlightening. Hi, Maureen. Did you see Nathalie again? This hilarious news. Oh, a new subscriber to Rob Shooter Substack. Our new regular on the Nerve. Rob Shooter, gossip extraordinaire. Reporter extraordinaire. So anyway, she says Rob is utterly brilliant, by the way. Couldn't agree more. Eladia Baldwin explodes after Dancing with the Stars elimination. Insiders tell Shooter Scoop. That's Rob Shooter. Go, go. Subscribe to his substack. The naughty but nice substack that the Dancing with the Stars contestant. Because it's really serious. We're really doing serious shit over here. Quote, completely lost it backstage after being eliminated during Disney night. Furious at producers, judges and even husband Alec Baldwin. She was livid, spills one source. She thought she was a front runner and couldn't believe it was over. When the cameras stopped, she went off. According to insiders. Hilaria accused producers of, quote, sabotage, claiming they gave her the wrong music, the wrong choreography, and then blamed Alex friends for not voting. Ay, caramba. Well, we'll have to talk to Rob about this as he gathers more intel on this most consequential elimination. If only we could fully eliminate Hilaria from the culture at large. I do not enjoy her at all. I don't. But anyway, we'll get the real deal from Rob Shooter now. Oh, just another note. You know, I call them over at the Daily Mail twice a week and they are currently running. It's actually really flattering. Like, it's a promo peg to my stuff, to my columns. So if you want to get. Now they're behind a paywall, which those decisions are made way above my pay grade. I get emails from people who are like, hey, why can't I get your stuff? Like, listen, it's not my decision. Okay? But they're running a special promo, so if you want to get access to it, you can sign up for. It's $0.99 per month for the first year. So really, it's nothing. It's like 10, 12 bucks a year. I can't do math. 12 bucks a year. Okay. It's a great deal. So you can check out the details. 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Maureen Callahan
We are back Now. Among the many threads that we have been pulling on at the Nerve is what's going on over in Saudi Arabia, with all of these comics, these American comics who are playing Chop Chop Square, which is what they call the town square in Saudi Arabia, where every Friday night, what people do to blow off steam at the end of a week and usher in a weekend is go watch people get beheaded or have their hands chopped off because they shoplifted something or were caught in the company of a man who was not their husband or, you know, whatever do they do. They still do it. They say they don't, but, you know, there's not a lot of international news. There's not a lot of international boots on the ground coming out of there. But you know who we've got over there? Comedians. Comedians. We covered Tim Dillon. He's done and dusted. I'm not even going to give him the, the headline or the, the oxygen. So. So we've had a new development, okay, new development. Now, the disgraced comic Louis ck. Now, it's been a while since he was canceled, and this is, don't forget this aspect of why he got me to the massaged, sanded down version that you're being told today is that it was really an overreaction because all Louis did was masturbate in front of some female comics. And this was not a one time thing. He did it over and over again throughout the years. But anyway, it's treated as a quirk, right? He's got this quirk. Nobody got hurt. He just jerked off to completion in front of some women. Now, he would do this, he would get women alone in a room. So it would be one woman alone in a room with him, and the women would feel as though they could not leave. And, you know, that's pretty much as far as they would go. But basically, Louis, it sounds like my estimation, just my opinion, that he trapped them in these rooms and got his kick out of violating them by making him watch them watch him masturbate to completion, which means he's doing it in front of them. So he's basically saying, I'm picturing myself having sex with you and this may be something you don't want. In fact, I know it's something you don't want because I'm pretty much keeping you locked in this room till I'm done. Just my opinion. And then I'll let you out once I've completely violated and humiliated you. So Louie's trying to make a comeback and it's not going well. Okay, it's not going well. So who hosted him in giving him this little boost up in the culture to Try to recover his career. None other than Bill Maher. Last seen violating Barbara Eden by telling her what onlyfans was and that she should join it. Use the word masturbating in front of, you know, birds of a feather. Birds of a feather. Okay. Anyway, Louis was using this lengthy one on one interview. It lasted for like 13 to 15 minutes. So that's like a good third of Bill's show. He used this spot to defend himself for taking the invitation to perform at Chop Chop Square. Now this is a comedy festival that Louis, back when he was on his high horse with his Prestige FX show and everybody was saying he was the second coming intellectually of Woody Allen, you know, he was too good for it. And he could, he could take the moral high ground. He could. It's not the moral high ground, by the way. It's the only ground. It's the only ground. Don't go and take the blood money from Saudi Arabia. But now he's changed his mind. Wonder why. Okay, let's watch and listen as Louis attempts to explain himself with an assist from Bill.
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Actor/Character from The Morning Show
I still think the guy. People who are doing it are brave and, and it's apparently the ones. They're enjoying it.
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Bill Maher
Yes, they're all what I'm talking about. The comedians that have been there and they've been really surprised by what's going on. There is a woman who's lesbian and Jewish who did a show there and she got standing ovation. And so there's stuff going on that's unexpected in this thing. And people have been playing Saudi Arabia for years. Like comedians have been going.
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Maureen Callahan
Doesn't make it right.
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Bill Maher
Louie countries. There was a film festival there recently. Like it's kind of opened up. But I've always said no to Arab countries doing. I do shows everywhere. Like this show I'm playing in India, I'm playing in Turkey, I'm playing in Bangkok, Hong Kong, all the. Over the world.
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Maureen Callahan
This year you can't get booked in America.
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Bill Maher
This came up. They. They said there's only two restrictions. It's their, their religion and their government. I don't have jokes about those two things.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, their religion and their government. Those are the only two things you can't talk about. Listen, any comedian worth their salt. George Carlin. May I? That's the only shit you want to talk about. Okay? That's the, that's the important stuff, Louis. No, just their religion and just their government. You know, saying this to Bill Maher, who for all of his fucked up issues with women, has repeatedly made Fun of Islamic fundamentalism and the way they treat women and the way they make women hide in what Bill calls the beekeeper outfits. And not for nothing, but Bill was one of, is one of the few and only to repeatedly book Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has a lot to say about Islamic fundamentalism and what it does to women. She herself a victim of child female genital mutilation. So fuck off. Fuck off, Louis. And we're not done with you. We're going to see you on the Mini as well. Okay? We're going to see you on the Mini with some of your other offenders. Now on to Dave Chappelle, and as I have said before, this one is a heartbreaker for me because I used to love Dave and I can't anymore. I just cannot. He performed at the Riyadh Comedy Festival smoking a cigarette, which now this is what they allow the rest of us, the Westerners, to know. If you're caught smoking a cigarette in public, which, I mean just about anywhere in Saudi Arabia, you will get fined over $1300 more than. Rather not over more than $1300 in US currency. And then if you're caught a second time, it doubles and then it triples. And I do not believe for a minute that they don't wind up chopping off fingers or hands for this, okay? Because they're like surgeons over in Saudi Arabia. They love to cut, okay? So here's what Dave had to say about his choice to perform there. I am quoting from a Daily Mail report by Stephen M. Lepore. It is dated October 3, 2025. Dave Chappelle said he has more, quote, free speech in Saudi Arabia than the United States. The United States, his homeland, where we made him a very, very wealthy man. And he got wealthy. You know why? Because we have the first fucking Amendment. And we're like, you can say whatever the fuck you want, but, no, he's got more free speech over in Saudi Arabia where Louis CK Just told us he can't make jokes about their religion or their government. So, Dave, that makes no fucking sense. Don't insult our intelligence. And then Dave insulted the memory of Charlie Kirk, whose body, I'm sorry, isn't even cold yet. Okay? Dave's quote, it's easier to talk here than it is in America. I'll never put another penny in Dave's pocket again. I won't fucking do it. These comics had to sign contracts stating that they would not make jokes about Saudi Arabia's government or the state religion of Islam. They had to Sign a fucking contract. It wasn't even good faith. Further, Dave, you know, Dave converted to Islam when he was 17. So maybe he really has not no problem with more than we are even aware, you know, maybe, maybe he's really not the guy we all thought he was. This is such a heartbreak. It really is. Even I'm capable, I'm as cynical as it gets. I've seen a lot of. But like this, this is like really disappointing. You know, as I've said before, I think the best, best comedians double as real public intellectuals. They come at things sideways, they see things in ways the rest of us just don't. And this is just, this is just deplorable. Now from the DM Report, Dave Chappelle. Oh, so the DM Report aggregated some of the best social media responses to this bullshit. Here we go. Dave Chappelle who went to Africa to avoid his show. Remember Chappelle's show over on Comedy Central? And everybody said, oh, Dave had a breakdown. Who would walk away from a show where he's making millions of dollars and he's super famous and everybody loves the guy and he can do whatever he wants. He has carte blanche over there. So remember, Dave Chappelle went to Africa to avoid his show from becoming a soulless grab and to just become a heartless millionaire. And that Dave Chappelle and this Dave Chappelle now are not the same guys. Agreed? Agreed. Others dared to take for him. Others dared. Dave. Excuse me, I'm so worked up, I gotta calm down. Others dared Dave to take on the likes of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for the brutal, planned, targeted luring of and subsequent murder in 2018 of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Another quote, Dave Chappelle. Another critic, Armand Damaliewski, should try telling a joke about MBS bone sawing a journalist and report back as to how that goes. One reporter said Saudi law makes it illegal to challenge either directly or indirectly the religion or justice of, of the king or crown prince. Then Chappelle also said this. Right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, you'll get canceled. Not so. Stop it. Just fucking stop it. Stop it. Charlie Kirk got shot because he enjoyed the First Amendment and engaged in reasonable, respectful discourse and actively sought out people who disagreed with him. And not to shame them and not to make them feel lesser than or less intelligent, but to have a reasoned coming together of minds and to see if we could get to a common ground. And he got shot in the fucking throat for It. So shut the fuck up, Dave Chappelle. Fucking bullshit. Now, before we get to our last. And I think the worst. And I just gave you a really good. I gave Dave Chappelle a really good fucking spanking. I think this guy's even worse than Dave Chappelle. I think he's our most disgusting offender here. Listen to a comedy podcaster named Johnny Mac read from a statement by one of the few comics who is talking actual sense here. This is David Cross.
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Johnny Mac
I've been asked for my opinion on the Riyadh Comedy Festival, and rather than answer the same question 23 times, I'll just put this out there. Oh, and I should preface this with the fact that I was not offered the gig. But it should go without saying that there's not enough money for me to help these depraved, awful people put a fun face on their crimes against humanity. Here goes. What do you think? I think I am disgusted and deeply disappointed in this whole gross thing. The people I admire with unarguable talent would condone this totalitarian fiefdom for what? A fourth house? A boat? More sneakers? We can never again take seriously anything these comedians complain about. Unless it's complaining that we don't support enough torture and mass executions of journalists and LGBQT peace activists here in the States or that we don't terrorize enough Americans by flying planes and. Or buildings. I mean, that's it. You have a funny bit about how you don't like Yankee candles or airport lounges. Okay, great. But you're cool with murder and. Or the public caning of women who were raped and by having the audacity to be raped, were guilty of engaging in adultery. Got any bits on that?
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Maureen Callahan
Couldn't have said it better myself. Now to our final offender, Pete Davidson. Pete is a native New Yorker. He was raised on Staten Island. His father, Scott Matthew Davidson, was a New York City firefighter who died in September 11th. To hear Pete talk of it, because he does quite a bit, this is the defining trauma of his life. How could it not be? Here's Pete telling Theo Vaughn, I believe this interview just aired this week about the sentimental items he has from his father. And listen to him carefully here, because what he's really saying, without fully coming out and saying it, is that his father's remains were either unrecognizable or blown into dust. Did you have some nice mementos of his?
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Pete Davidson
I have actually. I have his. His wedding ring I wear all the time. And I have his. It's actually super fucked up. But I have his badge, like his chain, his badge.
- [89:46]
Tim McKay
And.
- [89:46]
Pete Davidson
And they found. That's how they, you know, because everybody was pretty burnt up.
- [89:51]
Johnny Mac
Yeah.
- [89:51]
Pete Davidson
So that's how they knew it was him. And I have it and I just keep it in a safe because, like, with my luck I'll lose that. But I have, like, a couple of those things and I have his, his fire, his, like, jacket and, like, other set of pants. And I. I put him, like on the wall. I, like, framed him. But then I put him. I took them down, though, because, like, sometimes I'll be feeling good and then I'll see that and I'll be like, oh, yeah.
- [90:14]
Maureen Callahan
Now, here's what Pete said in that same interview about taking blood money from a government. Remember, 15 of the terrorists who executed nine, 11 were Saudi terrorists. Never forget that. Here's Pete on why he feels really comfortable taking blood money from a nation and a government that killed his father, who was trying to save the lives of innocents that day. A lot of those firefighters, it came in from all over New York and all over the tri State area. They weren't even on duty. Wasn't even their remit. They came in knowing they would go up those stairs and probably never, never get out. Go ahead, Pete, tell us why you're doing it.
- [91:00]
Pete Davidson
I've heard there's subreddits. I just, you know, I get the routing and then I see the number and I go, I'll go, okay.
- [91:07]
Tim McKay
Okay. Yeah.
- [91:08]
Pete Davidson
You know, and also laughs at this. You know, I.
- [91:11]
Tim McKay
There's.
- [91:12]
Pete Davidson
There's part of me that's just like, you know, I've been getting a little bit of a flack just because, like, okay, that's it.
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Maureen Callahan
A little bit of flack. All right, let's give you some flack, Pete. You should get a ton of flack. You should have gotten so much flack that, you know, you just said, you know what? I. There are some things you can't put a price on, some things you can't put a price on. You know, so I can't. There's nothing else I can say to this. There's nothing else I can say to this except to show the footage of the wreckage of the World Trade center, the second tower falling, and the wreckage of the World Trade Center. And, you know, not for nothing, but there are a ton of first responders, and not just like firefighters and police officers. I mean regular civilians who dropped everything and went to help. And who dug on that pile? In New York, we called it the pile dug through that pile for months to try to find human remains which are to this day still being identified and who now struggle with health issues. And I haven't heard one single fucking comic who went over there say, you know what I'm gonna do with this check? I'm gonna donate this blood money to the people who responded that day and are suffering. Why would we do that? That does it. That does it for our Friday edition of the Nerve. But, but we will see you back here tomorrow. And we've got a really fun mini. We've got a really, really fun juicy mini and we've got one of your favorites back with us. So it is going to to be fun. Join us with your coffee or join us with your cocktail. Wherever you are in the world. It is going to be thoroughly enjoyable. Okay. I think of it as like a bon bon. I think of it as just. It's going to be. We're all dying over here. We're all having too much fun putting the, putting the clips together. Now remember, the Mini Nerve is only on YouTube for now and that drops at 10am Eastern. And then we are back again on Tuesday for another full episode of the Nerve, which will then be followed the day after by the Nerve at night. So, you know, we're really, we're really, we're just giving it, we're giving it, we're giving it. We're so excited. So join us back here for a full episode on Tuesday at the Nerve where you will never guess what we're about to say next. Hey, everyone, it's me, Andy Cohen.
- [93:54]
Tim McKay
Buckle up because I have a podcast.
- [93:56]
Maureen Callahan
Called Daddy Diaries where I take my listeners on an as it happened, recount.
- [94:00]
Tim McKay
Of life as a daddy to two kids, dozens of housewives, and the occasional fella.
- [94:05]
Maureen Callahan
Listen to the Daddy Diaries to hear about my high highs and low lows of parenting, housewives, drama, and so much more. Daddy Diaries available wherever you listen to podcasts.
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