
Maureen dishes on the secret meeting held between the Royal family and Harry with entertainment reporter, Kinsey Scholfield, what it was about and who leaked the details to the media. They also crack into the highlights of Gwyneth Paltrow's new biography that feels a little premature at this stage of her life and career. Then Maureen takes a critical look at Amy Griffin's memoir "The Tell", and questions why the violent predator detailed in her book hasn't been brought to justice. She also delivers the latest on Brad Pitt's mid-life saga, including his new quest to mend the fences with his twins.Aware House: Visit https://awarehouseshop.com/discount/THENERVE & use code THENERVE for 15% off your first order. Firecracker Farm: Visit https://firecracker.FARM & enter code Thenerve at checkout for a special discount! Paleo Valley: Visit https://paleovalley.com and use code THENERVE at checkout to get 15% off your first order
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Hey, everyone. Welcome to your Friday edition of the Nerve. And we have another banger for you today. And we are going to end on a high note. First up, Kinsey Schofield of Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered. If you don't subscribe, get yourself over there. She's got gossip like nobody else and I'm lucky enough to appear there regularly. She is going to join us today to discuss breaking news out of Buckingham Palace. There are shifting alliances. The Harry Charles Williams schism. You will not believe who's on the outs this time. And I mean, I was shocked. I think you'll be shocked. I was definitely shocked. And Kinsey's going to talk to us about what this all means for the immediate and long term future of the monarchy. And she's also going to help us dig in. We've been given a gift showed up in the algorithm this week. There's a new biography about Gwyneth Paltrow coming out in about a week and a half. We've just gotten word that an advanced copy is on its way over to Nerve HQ as we speak. But an extract just ran in People magazine and there's some really, really juicy stuff and we're going to dive into that next. We have a major bestselling memoir that has been endorsed by Oprah and Gwyneth and just about every major A list female celebrity under the sun. But we here at the Nerve, we have questions. I actually suspect that a lot of people have questions but are too polite or too afraid to ask. But we, you know, here at the Nerve, you know, we're not. So we're going to do it then. We're going to get to my favorite. Your emails. You guys are the best. The Wordle stuff alone, I can't wait to talk to you about it. And a celebrity roundup with a lighter touch. This is more funny than outrageous. For your Friday entertainment. And we will end with a celebration of. Of rock music. Excuse me. Rock and roll. One of its biggest triumphs, turning 40 years old this week. Six, see you in a minute. Introducing a warehouse, your one stop shop for handmade unique home goods. Sourced exclusively from small businesses. A warehouse is dedicated to supporting American manufacturers with over 75% of their items created right here in the US from hand thrown pottery to luxurious candles, every item is selected for its integrity, craftsmanship and story. And trust me, I got a candle from a warehouse and I love it. It's gorge gorgeous. It's beautiful. It smells incredible. It's going to last for a long time, I can tell. Small businesses, you know, need our support now more than ever. This year, Forbes has predicted a record breaking 15,000 retail store closures in the United States. That is more than double the 7,000 plus closures in 2024. So by making the effort to support these smaller retailers, you can make a real difference in people's lives today. AwareHouse believes that true luxury isn't about brand names, labels, or price tags. It's about the dedication, creativity, and care that goes into every product. Visit awarehouseshop.com and use code thenerve for 15% off your first order. That's awarehouseshop.com code thenerve for 15% off YOUR first order. Troublemakers joining me again to dish on the royals. And Gwyneth, none other than Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, welcome to the nerve. You have had, like the week of all weeks. It's been a whirlwind. A whirlwind rather. So I'm very, very happy you were able to make time for us, of course.
Kinsey Schofield
But I feel like Gwyneth Paltrow loves that she's associated with royalty now, even if it's. Even if it means having to ultimately be associated with Meghan Markle.
Host
Seriously, I will get to this when we get to Gwyneth. But I remember this very stubborn rumor in the 90s that she had tried to date JFK Jr and he didn't really want anything to do with it.
Kinsey Schofield
Oh, God, I love talking to you.
Host
You remember it's a great rumor, right?
Kinsey Schofield
That vault of your mind is my favorite.
Host
I mean, there's a lot of useless info up there that has now come to, like, actually matter. Go figure. Okay, anyway, so let's get into it first with the latest on the royals because this stuff is unbelievable. Now, there was a summit. This is legit. It's been confirmed by the palace over the weekend. And there was a rep. One of King Charles's top, top people was at this summit with two of Harry and Meghan's top people. And this summit was not only held in broad daylight on a balcony where photographers just happened to be in position to get everyone At a great angle. But it seems as though it was not for once Harry and Meghan who leaked this, that it looks like it was King Charles who leaked it. That, that leak. There are reports that it may have been a shot across the bow to William saying, I'm King, not you, and I don't care if you like it. This is my son. And I want to reconcile. What. What are your sources telling you, Kinsey?
Kinsey Schofield
Okay, well, my sources are telling me that Prince William found out about this meeting at the same time you and I. I mean, I'm texting you this story like, can you believe this? Appare? That's what's happening for Prince William, too. He's getting messages. He's with his family. He's getting messages that this meeting happened. He didn't get the heads up. And he was incredibly disappointed by that because this negatively affects his family. It directly negatively affects his family. It's Harry and his wife that allegedly told Omid Scobie, author of Endgame, that Catherine was one of the royal racists. You know, she received so much hate for that online. She was attacked on the Internet. And you know, William monitors these things. He sees these attacks. It upsets him. He's concerned for his family's safety after this. But I will say that over here in the uk, they are not buying. I talked to Tom Bauer today. I know you love Tom Bower's book, Revenge. Tom Bauer, he believes that there was nothing in it for King Charles to instigate the leak of this story. He. He thinks Harry and Meghan are lying and that Harry and Meghan are The. The leaks and the objectives mixed. Were they trying to force the Royal's hand by leaking this story? So the Royal family feels like there has to be some type of royal reunion because now everyone knows about it. Or was Meghan so blinded by her jealousy over Prince William's great coverage, raising million at a polo event for his charities. Catherine on the tennis courts looking absolutely stunning. People in the, in the crowd screaming, we love you, Kate, was it, you know, the green monster coming out and Meghan saying, give me one second and I'm going to redirect all the headlines back to Sussex headquarters. So I, I've seen all. I've seen all of the theories, but what's strong in the UK is that they believe that Harry and Meghan are lying about not being the source of this story.
Host
Do your William sources believe. Do they have a theory as to who the leaker is?
Kinsey Schofield
The Sussexes.
Host
Oh, that. Okay, that's real. Deal stuff. Kinsey. Just come over to the Nerve and, like, be here all the time. Okay. So, you know, I really. I did a column on this over at the Mail the other day, and I find this so fascinating because I. I can see it through both Char point of view and William's point of view. I think from Charles's point of view, he's looking at this situation and saying, you know, he has cancer. He's an older man. He's got, just the math of it, fewer days ahead of him than behind him. And, you know, he's watching a clock. And if he wants to have any sort of reconciliation with his wayward son and have any kind of relationship with grandchildren he does not know, only one of whom he has seen in person, now would be the time. Then, from William's point of view, you know, he and his. His impeccably presenting family are at Wimbledon. It is a triumph. Catherine had been there on her own the day before she was given a standing ovation. He has been shouldering the duties of the Royal family with an ailing father, also has cancer, an ailing wife, a brother who is such a. Just skedaddled and has been throwing nuclear bombs every chance that he gets. And what does William get for being the dutiful son who can never put a foot wrong? And the weight of this monarchy, which his brother and his wife, my opinion, but shared by many, have been trying to actively destroy, it's on William's shoulders. And what does he get for this? What does he get? He gets the King going behind his back and the Sussexes leaking this stuff while he and his wife should be taking a victory lap at Wimbledon.
Kinsey Schofield
Yeah. Well, one thing I want to say that Tom Bauer kind of shocked me with today was I was talking about how empathetic the King is, how compassionate he is, that he has this sweetheart. And Tom Bower's like, I disagree with you. He said, okay, maybe he might act differently when it comes to his son. He said he feels guilty around raising Harry, or lack thereof. Harry kind of running amok when he was a teenage boy and getting into all sorts of trouble. And Charles running, Running off with Camilla and enjoying this, Enjoying his girlfriend that then becomes his wife, the mistress that becomes the girlfriend that becomes the wife. He said that Charles was absolutely vicious as a prince and would burn bridges left and right if he liked to surround himself with yes people. And if you told him no goodbye, you were out of the picture. He'd cut you off at the knees. So he does believe Harry when Harry goes on TV and says, dad won't take my calls. He believes that there is this cold side to King Charles, which of course I feel guilty repeating because I know the man has cancer and I want to be kind, but I'd never heard that before. I thought that that was fascinating that Tom Bower said that the king can be ugly and that he can see the king continuing to distance himself from Harry to protect himself and to protect the, the, the kingdom, to protect the crown.
Host
You know, this is very interesting. So the thing about, you know, the king being ill and not wanting to think that he could be mean or bitter or provocative towards one or both of his sons, like, you know, this is interesting from my own personal experience when my dad was getting sicker and sicker and you know, his, his time was very, very clearly coming to an end, part of him could become extremely difficult to the point of mean. And it is a common thing. And you know, there are multiple, I mean it's a case by case, individual experience, of course. But in my case I sort of felt like he knew he was dying and it was kind of like the act of a wounded animal going off to the woods to die alone. You know, sometimes they push the people closest to them away. They do it whether they're dialed into it or not. Charles has always had, you know, this is not really part of the public perception or what the palace markets, but he has historically had a very difficult relationship with William. And so this kind of lashing out actually makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know why he would place any trust in Harry not doing what he has historically done, which is take any minute amount of information he has given and weaponizing it and publicizing it.
Kinsey Schofield
Yeah, and this has PR crisis management written all over it. Harry and Meghan are, are pretty low right now when it comes to, I mean they're like hand in hand with Prince Andrew who was, you know, the last time he was photographed in the United States was arm in arm with Jeffrey Epstein. You know what I mean? Like they are in desperate need of some pr. And that's what Prince Harry recreating Diana's Walk it through the Minefields. What else did we recently see them do? I just feel like Harry is absolutely trying to separate himself from Megan Markle. Trying to who, who we know is toxic. Trying to remind us all that his mother was the martyr Princess Diana because he doesn't like being the unpopular, petty looking prince. He used to be one of the most popular royals right under Queen Elizabeth and Now he's at the very bottom and nobody wants to talk to him. And he's lonely. I know this is like, I feel ugly saying this, but this is a 40 year old man who's having to hang out with menopausal women in Montecito, California that have been in space. Okay, Harry can't. What can Gayle King and Harry talk about? She's been to space, Maureen. I think that he's miserable, is lonely, has no friends. I think he misses his family. But if they're going to use the argument that King Charles is sick and they're just trying to create this reunion out of compassion and empathy, then Meghan Markle, pick up the damn phone and call Thomas Markle, because your father is just as sick. And we know why they want this reconnection. It's, it's monetary. Their, their proximity to the British royal family pays. It pays big time.
Host
Exactly. And what struck me, before we move on to Gwyneth, about the, the, the walk that, the, the recreation of the landmine walk that Harry just did is Meghan has got to be seething because if anybody wanted to skin Diana's corpse like Buffalo Bill and wear it and go walking through landmines, it's Meghan Markle. But she, she's back in Montecito, you know, doing a school run. She'd have us believe a school run that's equivalent to the Odyssey. Okay, so let's get into Gwyneth Paltrow because the news of this biography, when it hit my feed, I was like, this is wild. Like, I never would have thought, you know, she's a biography of Gwyneth because, like, we just were fed her all the time. Right. But, you know, I am very interested to read it now. It's out July 29th. The author is Amy Odell, who did most recently a biography of Anna Wintour. Now, my theory here is that much as Anna did with Amy, you know, Anna refused to talk to Amy directly, but she did allow colleagues. I don't know who passes for a friend in her life. I find her probably friendless. But she gave enough people enough permission to talk to Amy that she was. Actually, I read half the book. I had to put it down. There was no juice in it because it was like, I got the sense that Amy was like, oh, I have access to Anna's world and I don't want to upset her. And the same could be true of Gwyneth because apparently she spoke to over 200 friends, colleagues, you know, who, you know, childhood teachers, Whatever. So we're going to get into three major revelations in this people extract involving three A listers. These are amazing. Okay, The Brad Pitt years and the breakup. There are such great details. I'm going to read from the people extracts and then, Kinsey, you give me your thoughts. During the filming of Emma, Gwyneth expressed doubts that Pitt was right for her, admitting that she had a crush on Hugh Grant. Brad and I had very different upbringings, she told an interviewer. This is so good. So when we go to restaurants and order caviar, I have to say to Brad, this is beluga and this is osetra. And there was a famous rumor back in the 90s that Gwyneth loathed going to the Midwest to go out and eat with Brad's relatives because their idea of fine dining was Red Lobster and she couldn't hack it. Now, after Emma came out, Gwyneth went over to her makeup artist, Kevin Aucoin, the late, great Kevin Aquan. She went over to his house or place and cried about Pitt multiple times. Pitt wanted to be with her, but seemed to feel threatened by her success and all the attention she received. Aquan's advice to Gwyneth was frank, quote, you really need to end this now. We have seen Brad Pitt's good guy image take quite a beating. No pun intended. Post. Angie, what do you make of this, Kinsey?
Kinsey Schofield
I mean, I believe the Red Lobster story, hands down. There's that she sounded so. She sounded so snotty. But you know what? Part of her appeal to me is that she's unapologetically snotty like that. She's unapologetically just. She lives in a world that I cannot relate to and I'm fascinated by it. Something about it is appealing to me, but it makes me laugh that it would be. Brad Pitt was just so jealous. Hot ass. Brad Pitt was so jealous of her appeal. I don't know. I don't know if I buy that, but I mean, you're right. This is my favorite part so far. So I can't see what. I can't wait to see what else you pulled.
Host
Well, listen, we'll say this about Brad. Once a woman becomes actually his actual girlfriend, they all wind up weighing 90 pounds. Just gonna say it. Okay, so, okay, a lister number two, Ben Affleck. She moved on from Brad to Ben. And this was right after he got. He was off the Oscar win for goodwill hunting, and he was like one of the hottest guys in Hollywood in multiple ways. Now, per the people extract, Affleck the more things change, the more they stay the same. Affleck was struggling with alcoholism and a gambling habit around the time he met G.W. gwyneth, who is attracted to his intellect. I get it. The guy seems really smart, like a really original mind. Just listen to his Armageddon commentary on the dvd. Now her friends had reservations about Affleck because he didn't always reciprocate her affection. He at times seemed more interested in playing video games with the guys at his house than being with Gwyneth Kinsey. What do you make of this?
Kinsey Schofield
I, I honestly am going to have to listen to the commentary from Armageddon because the second you said you thought he was smart, all I could see was his. Like seared in my mind was the back tattoo. Nothing about Ben Affleck's back tattoo says I've ever opened a book in my life. I trust your judgment. I'm going to listen to this DVD commentary. I'm going to have to buy it on ebay. But you have convinced me that Ben Affleck knows the Alphabet and can count to 21 without being naked.
Host
Well, listen, there's all kinds of different intelligence. You know, there's emotional intelligence. An emotionally intelligent like person who doesn't have self destructive tendencies would never have gotten that back tattoo, which must have taken like 18 sessions. But he is a reader and you don't have to buy the DVD. Don't do that. Just go on YouTube and, and just like type in like Ben Affleck Armageddon commentary. It's like maybe three minutes. It's amazing, it's hilarious. Okay, the final A lister. This is amazing stuff. There are people who aren't even born when this happened, which is wild to me. The Madonna years. The BFF Gwyneth Madonna rolling around, you know, with their trainer and they're shopping and they're in London and they're, you know, and she's got Chris Martin and, and Madonna's got Guy Ritchie. So they both have like British husbands, you know, whatever. So they were really tight and then suddenly there was a falling out and they never said what it was. There were rumors that perhaps Gwyneth had gotten too close to Guy Ritchie. But when Madonna and Guy Ritchie, their divorce broke. There were paparazzi photos in New York in the city of Gwyneth rushing over to Madonna to hold her hand through that. Now, according to this extract, their relationship reached a breaking point when Madonna showed up to an island where Gwyneth and Chris vacationing. Madonna seemed to know that Gwyneth would be there, which Gwyneth seemed to find strange. A friend remembered. Again, these are all for. It's. It's Gwyneth's people in their POV. So this would be around 2008 or 2009. Madonna continuing on then, insisted Gwyneth and Martin join her for. For, excuse me, a big group dinner at a long table where Madonna went off on her daughter Lourdes. Gwyneth and Martin were disgusted by the behavior. I cannot be around this woman anymore. Martin told Gwyneth. Chris Martin, who at a Coldplay show just apparently outed a couple having an affair. And the fallout is happening as we speak. Anyway, Chris Martin said of Madonna. She is awful. Gwyneth agreed, and cut her dead. Kinsey, your thoughts?
Kinsey Schofield
My thoughts are, you know, based on watching Gwyneth raised her teenagers. She's got a. Isn't Apple, like, Isn't that her name Isn't Apple kind of a snotty little girl. Wasn't she ugly at the debutante ball? Maybe Gwyneth should have been a little bit of a hard ass like Madonna.
Shanna Moakler
Maybe.
Kinsey Schofield
Maybe she could have learned a few things because it's my understanding that her daughter's not very nice.
Host
That is an excellent take. It never would have occurred to me. You're right. There is a very, very, very stubborn rumor about Apple that is. That is. It's a rough one. So, yeah, she was, she was caught being Apple, a bit of a mean girl at that debutante ball. So, you know, I think, I think you might be right. Maybe, maybe Chris and Gwyneth were. Maybe they engaged in what's known as gentle parenting, which is, you know, you never tell your kid no, and you.
Kinsey Schofield
Always unconsciously ignoring your children. Bias or what? Unconsciously uncoupling. Unconsciously ignoring your children.
Host
And then go call Harry and Meghan about unconscious bias and then just mix it all together in a blender and you have some kind of new organic smoothie she can chill over on. Goop. I love it.
Kinsey Schofield
Oh, or another egg that she can stick up her vag and then get sued over. I mean, that's my biggest Paltrow scandal.
Host
The YONI eg.
Kinsey Schofield
Oh, yeah, I'm not buying that.
Host
Disgusting. She still sells it, if you could believe it. Well, Kinsey again, I could talk to you all day, but, you know, I'll talk to you later. So thank you. Thank you for being on the nerve. Up next, Gwyneth is sort of attached to our next segment. We're going to talk about a very, very huge book. A huge book. In the culture. It is a bestseller. It is an Oprah's Book Club pick. It has been endorsed by tons of female celebrities. Nobody is asking questions that this book I think raises their obvious, obvious red flags throughout this book. Just my opinion. So we're going to get into the tell after this. Mundane and mediocre. That's for someone else. You know it, I know it. So why settle for boring food? This isn't about indulgence, it's about standards. You deserve better. And yes, that includes flavor. Enter Firecracker Farm. You've heard Megyn Kelly rave about it. Maybe you caught it on Rogan. Thousands of five star reviews say it all. People are a obsessed. Comments range from where has this been all my life? To how did I live without this? Now this is a small family run American company making something truly crafted. Not mass produced, not gimmicky. We are talking coarse sea salt infused with what they call the three Kings, Ghost Reaper and Scorpion peppers aged for depth, designed for balance so it's never too hot. It comes in a precision stainless steel grinder that gives you full control. This is not about melting your face off. It's flavor with power and no regrets. The heat hits in waves. Eggs transformed. Veggies upgraded. Steak next level if it was sold out last time. Good news. Alex just made a fresh batch. It is still small batch, still handcrafted and still blowing minds. Go to Firecracker Farm and use code thenerve for a little extra. Thank you. Zero regret. All Flavor Firecracker Farm hi, we're Emoji.
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We are back. So let's get into this and I'm going to preface this by saying this is a highly sensitive topic. A graphic book concerning childhood sexual abuse. Alleged childhood sexual abuse. So for anyone listening who is sensitive to this, I just want to give you fair warning. And again, the excerpts I'm going to be reading are quite graphic. I would like to just begin by saying before I get into the book that I take this topic extremely seriously. It is very personal to me. One of the closest people in my life, not myself, thank God, but is a survivor of sexual assault and not once, but twice as a young woman at a tender age. And so I take this stuff extremely seriously. And when something doesn't sound quite right to me, I also take it extremely seriously. And so we're going to have a discussion about a book that has gotten one kind of reception from celebrities and in the culture at large, and that is rapturous praise. It is called the Tell, and it's by a woman named Amy Griffin. Now, if you see her, anything about her or her book in magazines, on social media, you've probably seen clips of her maybe speaking to Oprah Winfrey or, you know, Instagram posts with Gwyneth Paltrow or photos of her at various starry events with other starry people or perhaps photographed with her husband. His name is John Griffin and he is a billionaire and he pretty much owns New York. And this is salient. And we will get to why. Now, the Tell is Amy's memoir of realizing after a guided therapy session involving psychedelic drugs or a psychedelic drug that she had been sexually assaulted violently and repeatedly by a teacher at her school in her small town of Amarillo, Texas, when she was a child. She gives him a pseudonym and she calls him Mr. Mason. And it is believed that Mr. Mason is an actual real person. Again, this is a pseudonym who is living free and clear out in Amarillo. And we'll get into that as well. Now, Amy opens this book with a warning, and she says that it contains depictions of sexual assault. Reader discretion is advised. Please. Is advised. Excuse me. Please take care of yourself while reading, which I find strange. I don't think I've ever encountered a reader warning such as that. Like to please take care of yourself. So, anyway, we get to know a little bit of Amy before she gets to, you know, the meat of her story. And she describes herself as just a girl from Texas who moves to New York. And she moves to New York, and she's. There are parts of her personality that actually remind me quite a lot of Meghan Markle. You know, she's a perfectionist. She writes, I was the school president. This is page 33. I was the school president, captain of the volleyball team, top 2% of her class. Then she becomes homecoming queen. But no another girl gets. Gets elected homecoming queen. And. And these are traumas. Like she. She sort of perseverates on the stuff she didn't get in high school, which is, you know, again, it's it's, it's a strange thing to, to fixate on that. She talks about her first time having sex as an adult, and she says she's unaware that the guy she was having sex with wasn't wearing a condom. And that just strikes me as a woman, is just completely unbelievable. Your first time having sex is typically fairly painful. And you would know the difference. You would know the difference. She writes that she moved to New York as a huge Sex and the City fan and she regarded herself as a potential carry. There are things that just again, don't quite smack. Like she gets a roommate. The roommate smokes weed. And this scandalizes her because drugs are illegal. But she goes on to write a book about these recovered memories that are induced by drugs that are going to potentially save her. And what she doesn't mention in this book, which is a very, very, very key piece of information that I think the reader should have access to, is that her husband is investing in psychedelic drugs. You know, because there's this huge push now to bring them to the market and make them legal. But that's not here. She writes that she moved to the West Village, but she had never heard of Pride. I mean, this is like we're talking in the 90s. I believe, I believe that Amy is a narcissist. And I'll tell you why. Because her mother develops breast cancer and her mother gets about two lines about that. Okay? Because not happening to Amy. Page 66. People often told me that I had the perfect life. I was athletic, tall and blonde. The problem with Amy, I believe, is that despite being a perfectionist at school and despite all of these achievements, you know, she doesn't seem to feel special. She marries a billionaire. That's not enough. They have children. And within four pages, from babies to teenagers, like, it's like that really, really huge life events are just sort of skipped over. So at page 74, this is the thing that really set my alarm bells going. She writes that her 10 year old came to her, her 10 year old daughter came to her and said, and I quote, mom, you're not a real person. Meaning I took this to mean her daughter was like, you're a phony. You're fake. Like, I'm your kid and I don't even know you. Like the way you behave is really weird. So anyway, she decides, oh, she writes, she writes on page 78, I wrote this down because it really, again, she writes, quote, multiple stories can be true at the same time. No, they cannot. They cannot. And with a book like this, you're either. Again, this is tricky stuff to navigate because, you know, I really, this is an interesting moment in the culture because I really, you know, when the Harvey stuff broke and then all these other bad men were outed, I really was a proponent of MeToo. And now we're seeing the pendulum swing. We saw it with the Diddy verdict, which I believe was the incorrect verdict, but we're seeing the culture say, hey, wait a minute, this stuff went way too fast. And do we believe all women? And I wonder if a book like this, which I don't know, would have been published without this woman's husband's name and money and her celebrity friends and her celebrity life. Because all too many women and girls have been victims of sexual violence. Men and boys too, of course, but it disproportionately affects women and girls. But her story is told in such a boilerplate, emotionless way. And then when she gets into realizing the abuse, the writing is really purple and overblown. And there are no specifics. There's nothing individual or personalized about it. And the thing about an Amy Griffin, and I have this on good authority, she came from nothing. She married this billionaire and she, she uses a fair amount of her husband's money and she invests in female owned companies. And so she's in effect, in my opinion, just my opinion, buying these friendships with the Gwyneths of the world and the Sarah Blakely's of the world and anybody and everybody famous that she wants to associate with or, you know, as I said on my show the other day, is a scalp collector scalping and hanging on the wall. I got Gwyneth, I got Oprah. You know, Gail's probably up there. I, you know, and, and this is why, this is, again, this is why I think Oprah's a dangerous actor in the culture. I really do. You know, Oprah, by the way, James Frey Fry has a new book out, and she, she chose his book, A Million Little Pieces, years and years ago for her book club, when her book club was like one of the dominant, dominant entities in the culture. And it was billed as a memoir. And then it turned out that he had, like, fictionalized a lot of it, or a lot of it was fiction. And then she made him come back on her show with his editor, who I believe was the legendary Nantel, and she took him to the woodshed on her show. She embarrassed the guy in front of the entire country, you know, because it was her fault that she got duped. Are you effing Kidding me. And then we later learned. Later learned that this was what publishing houses and editors and agents were doing back then. You know, memoir was the dominant genre. And he had tried to sell the book as a novel. And he was told, listen, if we just sort of recast this thing as a memoir, I mean, you're golden. You got a bestseller. And that's what they did. And everybody made a ton of money. Oprah. Okay. Anyway. And by the way, nobody was hurt. It was a novel slash memoir about drug addiction. You know, it was all about. Okay, whatever. So I'm going to read part of this chapter, chapter four, called Bathroom. And this is Amy now tripping under. Under a supervised setting. But this isn't. I don't think this is an actual doctor. I don't. It's not a. It's not a physician. I don't think. Okay, here we go. I saw myself on the floor on my stomach. And he. Mr. Mason, this is her younger self. I don't think we have an age here. Was stepping on my back with his cowboy boot. Okay, so envision this. She's on the floor on her stomach. His foot. His cowboy booted foot is on her back. Her back is bare. Where was my shirt? I was 12 years old. 12 years old. The rounded heel of his boot dug into the left side of my rib cage. I looked around the bathroom. She's in her school bathroom. His hand was on the nape of my neck, pressing my head against the wall. So we've suddenly we were on the floor. Now we're up against the wall. It's not. It's not really described. He grabbed me by my left arm and pulled me along the floor to the middle of the bathroom. His foot was on my back again. Okay, then I was in Mr. Mason's classroom. It was early evening and still light outside. The frilly dress was pulled up over my head. I'm on page 90 now. And I was bent over a desk while he was raping me from behind. Next, this is again her. Her psychedelic induced recovered memory. I was in the girl's locker room with my hands on the metal locker, bent over at the waist. He was behind me. Could I be making it up? I asked. But I knew that I wasn't. So she's detailing three rapes in three public places in this small school. What I'm assuming is a small school. The girl's bathroom. I'm assuming it's the girl's bathroom, Mr. Mason's classroom, and then the girls locker room. And you could say, well, maybe he locked his own classroom. But I don't know if any classrooms in elementary schools that don't have a glass window so you can see in, or a girl's bathroom or a locker room where presumably anybody could have walked in at any time. And if you want to say it happened after school hours, presumably there are janitors and other after school activities taking place. And so it just seems strange. It just seems strange. And then she goes and she tells her husband and he says to her, ultimately, I can't really be the conduit for this for you, but he is a billionaire and he does say, oh, this is another. This is another recovered memory where he. Okay, this is page 101 to 102. I dragged. She's still in school. We're still with Mr. Mason. She dragged herself to the gym to swim in the pool, knowing that the water would bring me comfort as I crossed the surface. Oh, no, wait, sorry. This is the third day after the session. She's an adult, but she, she's got another intrusive. What she believes is a recovered memory. As I crossed the surface of the water, an image of a blue bandana flashed through my brain. At first I couldn't place it. I realized then that I'd seen it before from Mr. Mason. He had used a blue bandana to tie my hands behind my back in the middle school bathroom. If you tell anyone, he said in a low Texas twang, I'll rip your teeth out. So we're talking about these. Amy. Amy Griffin's book is billed as a memoir of recovered memories of brutal sexual assault and rape. She's 12. This is a male teacher, an adult male teacher. Violent. I'll rip your teeth out. You know the kind of violent, violent assaults that I believe would send one to the emergency room or would leave marks, welts, bruises, or that would cause a child to act out in ways that, that would be alarming. You know, she grew up in a good family in a good home. By all accounts, by her account, you know, her parents weren't negligent. She was an overachiever. You know, it's so her husband John says, listen, we have the. Obviously they have the money. I'll hire a private investigator. I'll hire the best. Let's go do an in depth dive on this guy. Two weeks later, the report comes back and there's nothing in it. The guy is not a registered sex offender anywhere. There's no paper trail. There's no trail of other. Of other children. And I'm gonna just Say this also, you know, one of. I can't say who this child is, but how do I say this? Common sense dictates. When we were kids, when. I'm going to say, when I was a kid, me, my friends, my relatives, my cohort, everyone in my school, we all knew who the creepy men were. We all knew who the likely sexual predators were. Okay? There was a whisper network. I'll never forget. I had this choir teacher at church and all the other kids in the choir would say, this was the whisper. Stay away from him. Don't get left alone with him. He's a pedophile. Don't get left alone. And I would think, kindly mister. I'll just call him Mr. L. Kindly Mr. L. This older avuncular man. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. One day I was left alone with him in church. I must have been 12. And we were in the. Up, up in the choir with the organ and everything. And my recollection is I was seated on the bench at the organ next to him and he reached over and put his big thick hand on my thigh and in the. And I looked down at that and I looked back at his face and I looked down at his hand on my thigh and I thought to myself, holy shit, it's true. And I got out of there immediately and I never went back. So, you know, and then there are others where, you know, the whisper network grows into an alarm bell going off where parents will mobilize and kids will mobilize and say that individual at school is creepy and get him out. He's touching kids inappropriately, he's trying to get kids to join him after school, doing improper things, giving them rides, offering them rides, whatever, you know, So I just. If there's a violent child rapist raping a 12 year old student on school grounds in public areas, I'm gonna guess there would be some sort of proof of that having happened. We all know that child predators, that sexual predators. The recidivism rate is extremely high. You really, you cannot fix a pedophile. It's why there's such a thing as chemical castration. There's no treatment. So the. So the report comes back empty, it's clean. And John says, I'm out. The husband says, I'm out. I'm done with this. But we have a book out now and there's this. There's a real guy, apparently. A real guy, it's a pseudonym in the book. But he's been accused of being a violent child Rapist. Now we at the Nerve. We reached out to Amy Griffin's person and said, hi. Like, we are doing a segment on Amy's book and we have some questions. And the main question was, even though the statute of limitations has my opinion, just my opinion, it conveniently expired or the tell came out, so legally there would be nothing one could do. Right? But presumably we've got a violent sexual predator roaming around free in a small Texas town. And you would think someone with Amy Griffin's money and resources and power and celebrity army would be on fire about that. You would think her husband, who could afford to hire ex Mossad and ex MI5, would have a small army devoted to uncovering other victims and naming and shaming this guy, protecting potentially other children. I mean, we literally, excuse me, asked that question that we put to Amy Griffin's person. We said, I mean, wouldn't she. Isn't she. Is she not worried that there might be other children who could fall victim to this most dangerous monster? We heard nothing. We heard nothing. So this is a book that has been swallowed whole by the media industrial complex and spat back out to you. And there is on the other side of it, a guy who doesn't have Amy Griffin's money, power, resources, and who, I'm going to guess, in that town. And nobody would talk. The school wouldn't talk to us. People who went to school with Amy wouldn't talk to us. I mean, this book raises more questions than it answers. And if there is a guy on the other side of this who, you know, we talked about Lena Dunham's memoir the other day on the last show, actually in the chapter in her book called Barry, in which she falsely accused an Oberlin student named Barry of rape and she had to apologize to him. But that's it. Her book's still in print. She's still out there befouling the culture. I mean, I don't think that there are. This isn't a harmless. This isn't a harmless book if what I'm thinking is potentially the case. So we'll see. We'll see if we hear anything, anything back. But this segment just serves as a, As a, as yet another example of just be skeptical of what the media industrial complex and people like Oprah who give their fucking rubber stamp to whatever chic in the culture, you know, just. Just be wary. That's just my opinion. Just my opinion. Okay, now onto much lighter topics. We have a bunch of celebrity updates for you. They're really fun. I think you're Gonna love them. And of course my hands down. No question favorite part of the show. Of every show. Your emails. We will be back in a minute. We need to make America healthy again and that starts with what we put in our bodies. I'm constantly on the move, working and traveling and I need a snack that fuels my body, not poisons it. Paleo Valley's 100% grass fed beef sticks are clean, high quality and free from the chemical junk so many other brands sneak in. Most quote unquote healthy beef sticks at big box stores are loaded with preservatives like citric and lactic acid. Not Paleo Valley. 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We are back and we're going to start this segment off with you guys, the troublemakers. First of all, more than one of you sent me and I thank you for this. Wordle. I don't play. I have an email from a troublemaker named Stacy. Hi Maureen, please tell me you do wordle. It's like hangman. I wish I did. I wish I did. But anyway, the puzzle of July 16th. One of the clues was nervy nerve Nervy. And more than one of you who sent this Actually, every single one of you who sent this believes that this is the Times reaction to the impact that we are beginning to make in the culture. And that is probably the only nod they're gonna give us, which is cool by me. Trust me. Maureen, I discovered your show when you released episode four. I enjoy your celebrity analysis. Thank you. The Barbara Walters segment. This troublemaker named Diane wants to know if I remember when Barbara interviewed the heavyweight prize fighter Mike Tyson and his then wife, Robin Givens. I do. Robin Givens was basically intimating in this interview that Mike, who was like eight times her size, was abusive, was physically abusive. And Barbara Walters, basically, according to Diane's recollection, was criticizing Robin Givens for being with a dropout. A boxer and a dropout. You know, this is where Barbara's head was at instead of, you know, sort of realizing that she's talking to a battered woman who is issuing a cry for help on national television. And as Diane reminded me, Robin Givens called 911 that night after Barbara and her crew left, surely to go to the Beverly Hills Hotel and congratulate themselves for another exclusive. Aviva. This is not Aviva from Real Housewives. To my knowledge of New York, is it possible that the Obama's reconciliation has happened because Jennifer Aniston has gone public with her new boyfriend? That's coming up in this segment. And the Obamas are the mini nerve tomorrow. You guys are gonna love it. Obama never divorced Michelle, and she, Jennifer, got tired of waiting. The timeline kind of makes sense. Hey, listen, anything's possible, but, you know, I don't. I don't. I don't. If that affair happened, I mean, that. That would just be one for the books. Stevie writes this. The nerve is protein to the empty calories of some other gossip shows. Well, hey, we're not just gossip, you know, we're. We're culture on the whole. So I appreciate that. Will you do a deep dive into one Kathy Hilton. There is something very dark, manipulative, and disingenuous about her and the dopey shtick she is trying to pull off on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I am into this if you guys are into it. I am into it. I have read House of Hilton. I am obsessed with the sibling dynamic among Kathy Kim and Kyle Richards. It's some of the darkest stuff I've ever seen. And I could. I. I could go in on this if you guys want it. You got it. Let me know. Now, we also. We also. Okay. Celebrity updates. Reese Witherspoon. Now, these photos are Behind a paywall on the Daily Mail. They're exclusive, so I'm going to show them to you. Reese Witherspoon has a new. She's, she's twice divorced and she has a new boyfriend and he's an older German finance guy. I believe he's a billionaire. I could be wrong, but I think he is. And they're out yachting. As you know, the jet set does this time of year. And these photos are remarkable. Nobody's saying what I'm seeing and what I think once you see these, you're going to be like, yeah, we're all seeing the same thing. Okay, this photo, look at the body language here. Reese Witherspoon's knee is up in his abdomen and she's leaning backwards. And her arm is also awkwardly, like she's not pulling him in. She seems to be saying, I really would like you to stop here. I'm not physically attracted to you. Another one. Look at the way his mouth seems to be swallowing hers and her mouth seems to be tightly closed. And again, the knee is in the abdomen. It's like, here we go again. I can't get far enough away from you, dude. Like, I don't. This, you're, you're not. And then this one, listen. Her youngest child is 12. Her youngest child is going to see these photos, okay? The guy is like hosing down her crack on a yacht. It's just, it's, it's giving, it's just, it's, it's okay. Now, Jennifer Aniston allegedly has a new boyfriend as well. And this guy is known as hypnotist Jim. This was the banner item on page 6 about a week ago. And he's a former Wall street trader turned woo woo guru. Jim specializes in what he calls, I mean, like, he's a, he's a decent looking guy, but like, you know, you know, you're in a bubble. And Jennifer Aniston, listen, I've never heard a bad word about her. She seems to be a pretty decent person and, but she's in a, she, she's in a bubble. She's been in a bubble since she was in her 20s on friends. She's 50 something now. You know, this is what happens. You wind up dating a hypnotist. How do you know this guy didn't hypnotize you into thinking he's the bees knees? This guy specializes in what he calls hypno realization and is described on his website as a quote, transformational coach. Coach, Excuse me, Master hypnotherapist. And author of the books Shift Quantum Manifestation Guide, a workbook for coding a New consciousness and the stimulati experience. 9 skills for getting past pain, setbacks and trauma to ignite health and happiness. Do you know who I would say Jennifer Aniston should have a little consult with? Denise Richards, who is currently divorcing her husband. We all met him on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I got abuser vibes from him. The guy was a cancer scammer, okay? He was like. He was like a nobody social climber, you know, marrying these D list celebrity actresses whose best days were behind them. And he was selling cancer treatments to unwitting people and was basically selling cancer is like the best friend you could ever have. Ask anyone who's had cancer, okay? And they'll tell you probably not. Okay? Brad Pitt. His midlife crisis continues unabated. Look at these ensembles. Okay? He's got the girlfriend who, you know, Brad was probably 30 something when she was born. But, you know, he's. He's. It's. It's Steve. It's Steve Buscemi in. Was it Amy Sedaris, the show, you know, hey, fellow kids with, like, the base, the baseball cap backwards and the. You know. Anyway, Brad, who recently, who before F1 came out his camp, made the unprovoked statement that Brad was done with. With two of his adopted sons. And in the case of one who has been acting out and melting down on the streets of Los Angeles, Pitt said he basically was done with that kid, didn't care what happened to him. What he did was of no concern of Bratz. Okay? But now. Now we have an update from Camp Pitt. And, you know, Gwyneth and Jen, really, they dodged a bullet with this guy. He now wants to reconcile with his biological twins, Vivian and knox. They are 16, and as this article points out, they are the only kids legally required to see him. It's a pivotal moment, says an insider. He knows this may be his last real chance to rebuild a connection. I'm just gonna give you a tip, Brad, and say that when you publicly say that you have disowned two of your six children, and those two children were adopted. So they've already got their own traumas from that initial rejection of birth parents, living in an orphanage, getting spirited away to a new country. And you're not just living in an American home, You're living in a home like no other with parents who are globally famous. Can't be easy. And, you know, you don't want anything to do with Them. I don't think those siblings are going to want to get back to like a paternal relationship with you. It doesn't feel very paternal. It's not logical. I don't know why I expect logic, but. Okay, now onto this is I love this story and I really wish we could show footage from it. For rights and clearances reasons we cannot. But Live aid turns 40 and Bob Geldof has been out. He was, he got a big piece in the Times. He's been doing the rounds. He is the. Or he and the musician, sorry, musician Midge, er, put Live Aid together along with a bunch of super producers and promoters and it was a cultural moment like no other. So it was 1985. There is a CNN doc about it streaming now along with a multi part BBC doc. And if you are young enough not to have experienced this in real time, Live Aid really, it had never been done before. It was unlike anything else. So it was two transatlantic concerts, one taking place at Wembley Stadium in London, the other in the United States at John F. Kennedy Stadium in Philadelphia. It aired live and it was seen by an estimated 1.9 billion people in real time. That's 40% back then of the earth, Earth's population. And it raised over $100 million for famine relief in Ethiopia. It is the event that is credited with making U2A a global, a globally important band. Their rendition of Bad what was iconic. And if you also want to get another look at that live, watch. YouTube rocks. It's incredible. It's incredible. And then David Bowie, who Bob Geldof, tells a story. I think he was talking to the BBC the other day, but Bowie had seen the footage Bob showed him that sort of inspired this whole thing of these starving children in Africa. And nobody could believe what was going on there. Nobody had seen it before. Again, this is before social media and everything's really atomized and you see what the mainstream media gives you. And Bowie said, I'll do it, I'll perform if I can show that footage behind me. And the promoter said, no, absolutely not. They're never going to allow it. And Bowie said, well, I'm not gonna perform. Then David Bowie got his way. He did Heroes, he showed it. And Bob Geldof said in this interview that, you know, in a large part to the movie about Queen starring Rami Malek, people think that Queen was the act that really got the phone lines going and the donations pouring in. And he's. And Bob says, no, it was Bowie, it was Heroes. And he said that the phone lines when they showed that footage that Bowie insisted upon, that's when the phone lines started melting down. But now to Queen, because Queen's performance at Live Aid is roundly considered one of, if not the best live rock and roll performances of all time. And if you go back and look at Freddie Mercury and Queen and their rendition of We Will Rock youk, and the camera work is incredible because you get to see just the sheer enormity of a packed Wembley Stadium. And then there were cameras that were shooting the point of view from the stage, like behind the performers and really up close. And it was just incredible. And so live aid turns 40. Oh, and I just wanted to read this quote from Sir Bob Geldof in Billboard, a recent Billboard interview, as to why Live Aid remains such an iconic moment in the culture. He says it's that sense of being there and connected. Everyone just felt this sense of humanness, not humanity, but humanness. For the first time in 300,000 years since we all left the Rift Valley, we were all talking to each other about a common problem and using a common language. The linguist franca of rock and roll that makes my heart go pitter patter. Everyone in the world understands a wap bapa luba, a bop bam boom. Rock and roll is beyond language. It's an attitude and it's a sense and it's universal. Truer words and you know, Live Aid has since come under kind of post woke scrutiny as being like a big white savior effort. And Bob Geldof calls it, quote, the greatest load of bollocks ever, which I agree with. And this all reminds me, by the way of there's this incredible documentary on Netflix called the Greatest Night in Pop and it's about the recording after the Grammy Awards in LA in 1985, we are the World, which was a similar, you know, it was a multi star recording, you know, of, of this song that was to all the. All the proceeds were going towards famine in Africa. This thing is amazing. Okay, first of all, Lionel Richie, I never really, I mean, I loved him in the Commodores, but I never really had a feeling for him either way. And then he, in this document, this guy is such a storyteller. I mean, he knows how to tell a story. He is riveting and so engaging and you feel like he's sitting across from you just telling you this story and he's just like, you know, enraptured by it and still marveling at how they pulled this thing off. It was the whole, the whole thing, you know, literally all these Stars. After the Grammys, instead of going to after parties, they went to this huge studio in la and Quincy Jones produced it. And, you know, you get to hear all the inside, like, how they, like, it was harder than you would think. Like, you know, you've got, like, Bruce Springsteen next to Cyndi Lauper, and those vocals don't match. And how do you get from. From this artist to that artist and who is delivering a line the way they need to? And there's this great moment. Bob Dylan's there, and it's Bob's turn to sing his solo line. And he freezes up. The great Bob Dylan freezes up. And he gets very shy. He Very shy. And Stevie Wonder goes over to him and coaches him, and he gets him, like, out of his shell and out of his own head and gets Bob Dylan to deliver it. And it's just. I mean, it's remarkable. It's such a great peek behind the scenes. And then there's this amazing story told by Apollonia, who is one of Prince's, like, proteges. You know, he's always collecting these, like, young, hot women and, like, promising them big careers. But anyway, so Apollonia is in the room at this recording, and she's wondering when she's gonna get her bit of the song, which doesn't come, but she does keep getting asked, well, do you think Prince is gonna come? Like, he said he was gonna come? Like, when do you think he's gonna get here again? This is before cell phones. And she finally realizes that, no, she's the. She was the bait, and Prince is. Was the big fish. And she says in the doc, like, Prince was never coming because he thought the song was terrible. And Prince was right. It's a terrible song. The intention behind it. Great, the song. Listen to Prince. Okay, Anyway, finally. Finally, our last bit of business comes from a troublemaker. Lori wound up in my email inbox just an hour ago, and we were like, we got to get it in. Hi, Maureen. This is hilarious. Bill Maher gets caught being a gross dude by former Miss USA Shanna Moakler. And she even sent me the timestamp so I didn't have to surf through the whole thing. Let's take a look. Look at Shanna's. She survived a date with Bill Maher. Okay. Again, I'm. We're putting her in the running for a nerve award. She lived to tell the tale. Not that, you know, he's dangerous, but, like, ugh. Okay. Anyway, here we go.
Shanna Moakler
I'm not a huge fan of Bill Maher. And I'm sorry if you guys all are, but I'm not.
Kinsey Schofield
Yeah.
Shanna Moakler
So. But I was like, all right, I'll go.
Host
Like, it.
Shanna Moakler
It was like. It was like this Sean Penn movie, you know?
Host
Yeah.
Shanna Moakler
And I was like, okay. And so I go, and he. You know, he picks me up and he takes me to this movie premiere, and we do, like, the red carpet, and it's, like, really cool. And I meet, like, all these huge celebrities and all this stuff, and Francis Ford Coppola's sitting in front of us with his daughter. And I'm just like, this is the coolest thing ever. But I'm with Bill Maher, you know, and I'm like, whatever.
Host
It. You know.
Kinsey Schofield
How old was Bill back then? I don't know, because he's always been old.
Shanna Moakler
Like, the same age as me. But he's, like, real proud to have me, like, on his arm. And he's, like, with, like, the guys, like, you know, like, oh, his friends. And I'm just like, oh, Christ, you know, like, no. Like, it's not happening. Anyway, so we. After the premiere, Sean Penn goes up to him, and he's like, hey, we're gonna go to Jack Nicholson's house.
Host
Good old Jack.
Shanna Moakler
Yeah, come on. Come on up with them. And I had known Jack and I had known Sean, whatever. And we get in the car, and Bill puts his, like, hand on my leg, and I'm just like, oh, no, I don't want them. Like, you know, like, no. Like, I'm not.
Host
No. So.
Shanna Moakler
But this is terrible. This is a terrible story.
Kinsey Schofield
But it's.
Shanna Moakler
I don't even fucking care. Like, I can't stand him. So this is. This is payback, Bill.
Host
This is payback, Bill. Consider it payback from your friends here at the Nerve, who have long memories when it comes to telling victims of domestic violence that it's pretty much their fault, instead of. I'm not even getting into it. But, you know, the hits just keep on coming. So you guys keep sending me your stories, the gems that you're finding online. I've been getting a lot of help from you guys about the Oprah's association with John of God and a lot of really good suggestions about where I can really dig in. And so, trust me, we will be revisiting it in large thanks to you, you guys, who also got us to 200k subs this week. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? We will endeavor to maintain your affection and trust. I promise you that. And that's it. That's it. That does it for our Friday show. Remember, email me maurenevilmaycare media.com DM me @maureen callahanrider or the nerve Show. Remember to like subscribe and spread the word. We're going to go up to three episodes sooner than later and that's because of you guys. So, you know, faster we grow, faster we expand for you. And be sure Speaking of, to check out the Mini Nerve this Saturday. This one's a banger. This one. I had the most fun doing this. I felt like it was writing itself. I really did. I can't wait to see you on Saturday. It drops. Remember, the Minis are only on YouTube right now, so head over there. It'll drop at 10am Eastern Time on Saturday. And until then, we will see you for a full nerve next week on Tuesday when we will all reconvene and head over to the woodshed and possibly oil up the wood chipper, which we are figuring out as we speak. Anyway, we'll see you Tuesday right here on the Nerve where you will never guess what we're about to say next.
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Podcast Summary: The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
Episode: The Royals’ Secret Meeting Leaked, Gwyneth Paltrow's New Biography, and Brad Pitt's Mid-Life Crisis
Release Date: July 18, 2025
Host/Author: MK Media
Description: From pop culture to true crime, Maureen Callahan dissects everything with smarts, humor, and skepticism. Join The Nerve for conversations no one else dares to have.
The episode kicks off with Maureen Callahan (the Host) introducing the day's main topics, promising an engaging exploration of recent high-profile events and controversies. She teases discussions on a leaked secret meeting within Buckingham Palace, an upcoming biography of Gwyneth Paltrow, and Brad Pitt's ongoing mid-life crisis. Additionally, the episode includes listener emails, celebrity updates, and a nostalgic look back at Live Aid's 40th anniversary.
Guest: Kinsey Schofield of Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered
Timestamp: [00:47] - [15:37]
Maureen welcomes Kinsey Schofield to discuss the shocking leak of a secret meeting involving Buckingham Palace. The summit, confirmed by the palace, saw King Charles meeting with representatives from Harry and Meghan’s camp on a balcony, inadvertently captured by photographers.
Key Points:
Leaked Meeting Intentions: There are theories suggesting King Charles orchestrated the leak to assert dominance over Prince William, signaling a potential reconciliation effort with Prince Harry.
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"I think you'll be shocked. I was definitely shocked." — Maureen Callahan [00:47]
Prince William’s Reaction: Upon learning about the meeting simultaneously with the audience, Prince William felt blindsided and deeply concerned about its negative impact on his family’s public image.
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"Prince William found out about this meeting at the same time you and I. ... He was incredibly disappointed by that because this negatively affects his family." — Kinsey Schofield [06:34]
UK Public Sentiment: According to Kinsey, Tom Bower, a noted journalist, believes Harry and Meghan are the true sources of the leak, and there is skepticism in the UK regarding their claims against the Royal family.
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"Over here in the UK, they are not buying. ... They believe that Harry and Meghan are lying about not being the source of this story." — Kinsey Schofield [08:46]
Host’s Analysis: Maureen delves into the motivations of King Charles, considering his health issues and desire for reconciliation, juxtaposed with Prince William's burden of maintaining the monarchy’s image amidst internal family strife.
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"From Charles's point of view, he's looking at this situation and saying, you know, he has cancer... And he wants to have any sort of reconciliation." — Maureen Callahan [10:48]
Tom Bower’s Perspective: Kinsey shares Tom Bower’s less flattering view of King Charles, portraying him as manipulative and less compassionate than previously thought.
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"Tom Bower ... said he feels guilty around raising Harry, or lack thereof." — Kinsey Schofield [10:48]
Timestamp: [15:37] - [23:33]
Maureen shifts focus to the highly anticipated biography of Gwyneth Paltrow by Amy Odell, releasing on July 29th. An extract published in People magazine reveals personal and controversial aspects of Gwyneth’s life.
Key Points:
Biography Insights: The book explores Gwyneth’s relationships, including her tumultuous breakup with Brad Pitt and subsequent relationship with Ben Affleck.
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"Gwyneth expressed doubts that Pitt was right for her, admitting that she had a crush on Hugh Grant." — Maureen Callahan [19:24]
Brad Pitt Relationship Details: Insights into Gwyneth's struggles with Brad Pitt’s jealousy and their differing upbringings, highlighting conflicts over lifestyle choices such as dining preferences.
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"During the filming of Emma, Gwyneth expressed doubts that Pitt was right for her." — Maureen Callahan [19:24]
Ben Affleck Relationship: Examination of Gwyneth’s move to Ben Affleck post Brad Pitt, touching on his personal struggles and how it impacted their relationship.
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"Affleck was struggling with alcoholism and a gambling habit around the time he met Gwyneth." — Maureen Callahan [20:32]
Madonna Friendship Fallout: The biography also delves into Gwyneth’s friendship with Madonna, detailing their falling out and the impact on Gwyneth's personal life.
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"Chris Martin said of Madonna, 'She is awful.' Gwyneth agreed, and cut her dead." — Maureen Callahan [23:11]
Critical Reception: Maureen critiques the biography for its lack of depth and perceived narcissism, questioning the authenticity and motivations behind Amy Griffin’s portrayal of Gwyneth.
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"Amy Griffin's book ... she uses a fair amount of her husband's money and she invests in female-owned companies." — Maureen Callahan [23:26]
Timestamp: [27:23] - [53:23]
Maureen transitions to a critical analysis of the memoir The Tell by Amy Griffin, which deals with recovered memories of childhood sexual abuse. She provides a detailed critique of the book’s credibility and the broader implications in the context of the #MeToo movement.
Key Points:
Book Overview: The Tell narrates Amy Griffin’s allegedly recovered memories of being sexually assaulted by a teacher, Mr. Mason, during her childhood in Amarillo, Texas.
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"Amy opens this book with a warning, and she says that it contains depictions of sexual assault." — Maureen Callahan [53:23]
Recovered Memories Critique: Maureen questions the reliability of recovered memories, especially those induced by psychedelic therapy, emphasizing the lack of concrete evidence supporting Griffin’s claims.
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"Common sense dictates... there would be some sort of proof of that having happened." — Maureen Callahan [53:23]
Legal and Investigative Concerns: She highlights the absence of a criminal record for the accused teacher and the ineffectiveness of Griffin’s husband’s efforts to verify the allegations, raising doubts about the veracity of the memoir.
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"The report comes back empty, it's clean. The guy is not a registered sex offender anywhere." — Maureen Callahan [53:23]
Cultural Impact: Maureen connects the discussion to the broader cultural shift post-#MeToo, expressing skepticism about media endorsements and the potential for false allegations to tarnish reputations without substantial evidence.
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"This book raises more questions than it answers. And if there is a guy on the other side of this, ... nobody would talk." — Maureen Callahan [53:23]
Personal Connection: Maureen shares her personal stance on the seriousness of sexual assault and the importance of credible evidence, while criticizing the media's role in perpetuating potentially unfounded narratives.
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"I just want to give you fair warning. And again, the excerpts I'm going to be reading are quite graphic." — Maureen Callahan [27:23]
Timestamp: [53:23] - [74:36]
Maureen provides a series of updates and analyses on various celebrities, blending humor with incisive commentary.
New Relationship: Reese is reportedly dating an older German finance billionaire. Maureen scrutinizes their public interactions, analyzing body language from exclusive photos.
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"Her youngest child is 12. Her youngest child is going to see these photos, okay?" — Maureen Callahan [65:00]
New Boyfriend: Jennifer is allegedly dating hypnotist Jim, a former Wall Street trader turned transformational coach. Maureen expresses skepticism about his credentials and intentions.
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"This guy specializes in what he calls hypno realization ... transformation coach." — Maureen Callahan [68:00]
Family Struggles: Brad Pitt’s relationship with his adopted sons remains strained as he attempts reconciliation with his biological twins, Vivian and Knox.
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"Gwyneth and Jen, really, they dodged a bullet with this guy. He now wants to reconcile with his biological twins." — Maureen Callahan [70:00]
Historical Lookback: Celebrating Live Aid’s pivotal role in 1985, Maureen recounts the event’s massive global impact, featuring performances by U2 and Queen, and its enduring cultural legacy.
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"Live Aid turns 40. ... For the first time in 300,000 years since we all left the Rift Valley, we were all talking to each other about a common problem." — Maureen Callahan [73:00]
Timestamp: [53:23] - [74:36]
Maureen engages with listener contributions, addressing topics ranging from Wordle puzzles to past celebrity interviews.
Cultural Impact: Listeners share their Wordle experiences and how the podcast is influencing their engagement with the puzzle game.
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"Every single one of you who sent this believes that this is the Times reaction to the impact that we are beginning to make in the culture." — Maureen Callahan [55:00]
Historical Analysis: Maureen critiques Barbara Walters’ handling of the explosive interview, suggesting Walters undermined Robin Givens’ credibility.
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"Robin Givens was basically intimating ... Barbara Walters was criticizing Robin Givens for being with a dropout." — Maureen Callahan [56:00]
Dark Dynamics: A listener suggests a deep dive into Kathy Hilton’s manipulative behavior on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, highlighting sibling conflicts with Kim and Kyle Richards.
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"There is something very dark, manipulative, and disingenuous about her and the dopey shtick she is trying to pull off." — Listener Diane [61:00]
Personal Story: Shanna recounts a harrowing experience with Bill Maher, detailing unwanted advances during a social event.
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"Bill puts his hand on my leg, and I'm just like, oh, no, I don't want them." — Shanna Moakler [70:55]
Maureen wraps up the episode by thanking listeners for their support, announcing the upcoming Mini Nerve episode, and encouraging continued engagement through emails and social media.
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"We will be revisiting it in large thanks to you, you guys, who also got us to 200k subs this week." — Maureen Callahan [74:36]
This episode of The Nerve offers a comprehensive and engaging analysis of significant cultural and celebrity events, blending investigative discussion with sharp commentary. From royal family intrigue and celebrity biographies to personal listener stories, Maureen Callahan ensures a thought-provoking and entertaining experience for her audience.