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The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
Timothée Chalamet's Award DISS, Jack Schlossberg's Nepo Treatment, & Jay Shetty's Self-Help Blowback
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Maureen Callahan goes all in on the 32nd Annual Actor Awards, from celebrating Timothée Chalamet’s shutout for "Marty Supreme," to slamming Michelle Williams’ acceptance speech were she skipped over James Van Der Beek but gave a hat-tip to Busy Philipps, plus Jessie Buckley’s egregious Oscar bid and more. She is then joined by Kinsey Schofield, host of “Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered,” for a breakdown of the best and worst red carpet looks, including Kathryn Hahn drowning in tulle, Timothée Chalamet looking like a valet with his underdressed mom in tow, and a gown worn by Sarah Pidgeon that received mixed reviews. Later, Maureen reads through audience mail taking on self-help hack Jay Shetty — from going unchallenged by The New York Times to revisited "Red Table Talk" podcast moments, and Troublemaker artwork that depicts him as “Jay Shifty.” Maureen rounds out the show with a full dissection of Jack Schlossberg’s CBS Sunday Morning profile piece, his Nepo media treatment, his soci...
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Maureen Callahan
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
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Mo Rocca
But no.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
And we're going to look at the headline from the Hollywood Reporter actor awards snubs and surprises Timothy Shyamalan. Ding Dong loses second lead actor prize in a row. He was snubbed at the baftas like two weeks ago. We're going to talk to Rob Shooter about it on the Nerve at night with, along with a bunch of other great celebrity gossip. You guys, I can't wait to talk to him. But anyway, he was snubbed. And you know, it's they, this whole award season, like all the messaging has been like, well, it's. They're going to give it to this kid. Like he's just gagging for it. So, like, just give it to him and shut. No, no. And not only did they give it to Michael B. Jordan for playing twins in Sinners, Sinners is not a great movie. I'm just going to say it's not. I really couldn't watch. I couldn't sit through it. It bored me to tears. And spoiler alert, if you haven't seen it, you know, what can I say? Shut your ears. It's just a vampire movie. That's it. It's a vampire movie. You would think it was like a work of art, you know, it's not. But anyway, Michael B. Jordan won and he got a standing ovation, which was the crowd's way of saying, fuck you, Timmy C. We're sick of your shit. Now I know, I know that Hollywood watches the Nerve because I hear things. I do hear things. And I do think the writers room for this latest iteration of the SAG Awards, whoever renamed it the Actor Awards, Bad idea. Bad idea. They did a bit that I think they would have thought the Nerve would do. The Nerve is definitely coming after Marty supreme in the days to come. And then of course, on our Oscar, on our Oscars livestream. Excuse me, but I think they thought like, well, a nerve way of coming at this would be let's have celebrities play ping pong during the ceremony. And then they had this home, what looks like, you know, a lot of the stuff that we present on the Nerve, a lot of, you know, our own, the props, prop master, Emily, et cetera. You know, it feels homemade. You know, we'll have our dartboard with like our cutout floating heads of like Oprah and Gail, you know what I mean? And they went this route. They had this like homemade Timothy award that it looked like a toddler did it in ceramics class. And it just felt very nerve coded. It really does. So we're going to take a look at this lame, lame bit in which Kristen Bell, who we are not Fans of here at the Nerve either is moderating or refereeing, I guess this table tennis game between Ted Danson and somebody who, I don't know. Let's take a look. And she's unveiling the Timothy Shyamalama Ding dong award. Like, this is original. You stole it from us, sister. You stole it. This actress is in something else. And this, this bit fell so flat. We can just stop it now. They haven't even begun parrying, you know, Awful. Okay, now moving on to what is next in this ceremony. So every SAG Awards now, Oscar Actor Awards, excuse me, they take a few actors and they have them sit there and talk to camera and say, like, this is a little bit of my bio. And at the end they go, my name is Fill in the blank and I am an actor. Now. You can do that. I think if you are a top neurosurgeon, if you perform open heart surgery, if you treat children with cancer, if you are a fighter pilot, if you are a first responder, go ahead all day long. You know what? Those people don't do that. And they contribute way more to society. The way these people talk about themselves at these ceremonies, you'd think they were like saving lives. They talk this way. They really do. And it's. No matter how many times I see it, I never, I never, I never fail to be shocked by the utter self regard. So here is Teyana Taylor, who again, one battle after another. Unwatchable movie. I think this, this woman is overpraised in the extreme and she's going to do her little bit about I am an actor and we're going to hear some really tired rehashing of the Titanic controversy. That is what, 30 years old at this point. Here we go. I was seven years old. One of my favorite movies was Titanic.
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Actors/Presenters (various)
I cried when Rose let Jack sink
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
to the bottom because we know good and well he could have fit his ass on that goddamn door. But you know what I mean, If I ever got the chance to work with Leonardo DiCaprio, that I wouldn't let him drown. Instead I run off, rob a bank and left him with a whole damn baby. I am Teyana Taylor and I'm an actor. Hollywood does this every year. They do this every year. I'm just gonna say it because this is what they do. They find a heretofore undiscovered black actress and, you know, they like it. They like a little bit of sass. You know, ask Monique, who did the award circuit for Precious, you know, and then these people Disappear, you know, they kind of like Hollywood, Hollywood uses them and they serve a purpose for Hollywood and then they disappear. And maybe that's why Teyana Taylor is wearing a gown that looks like somebody spray painted her breasts with her four year old daughter next to her. A note about the red carpet. One of the interview interviewers on the red carpet was Paige desorbo, late of Summer house and Southern charm, otherwise known as Bravo stardom. And this was painful listening to a woman who has zero sense of cinematic history interviewing these actors and actresses and going like, just tell, you know, you know what we need to see you in. I mean, just tell us like how much you love your cast. Girl, you're looking amazing. It's unbearable. It's unbearable. I know we'll never have another Joan Rivers on the red carpet. I've made my peace with that. But can we get someone who has a little bit of edge, who's coming at people from an angle you can't quite see and who actually knows stuff about film, film history and pop culture? Now onto one of my least favorite actresses, Michelle Williams, the prissy, fussy self. Regarding. I'm still just a little elf and gamine. I mean I'm like almost 50 years old and I've got like three or four kids. I used to be the widow Ledger, but now I'm up here accepting an award for a highly mediocre series. She played a real life woman who died of cancer. It was called Dying for Sex. Keep in mind, Michelle Williams made her name and her fame on Dawson's Creek playing opposite James Van Der Beek who died of cancer last week. Here we go. I thought that when you played somebody's kid it meant that you were actually their family. So I was always really bereft at the end of a job to say goodbye to mommy and daddy and never hear from them again. She's so creepy. But to Jenny, to Rob, to Jay, to David, to Escobar, to Sissy, I will let nothing of you go ever. And to the geniuses of the flying penises. Kim, Liz, Shannon, I love you guys. To FXC 20th for giving me a forever home. And to the real life Nikki and Molly. This is for you. This is about you. And to the Nikki, to my Molly. Busy. I love you.
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Mo Rocca
Thank you.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Okay, so she played a woman dying of cancer and the real life woman she played did die of cancer. Did she think to mention James Van Der Beek who died of cancer? No, she did not. You know who she thought to mention? Very Oprah and Gail Coded. She mentioned her bff, Busy Phillips, who she used to drag around as her date to award shows. Met gala all the time. Now we've got a new husband who I believe may have been married when Michelle Williams got with him. Yes, yes. Fosse. Another fx. It was fo. Was it Fosse? Verdin. I forget what they called it, based on Bob Fosse and Gwen Verdon. And that's when she. She got with this guy who I believe was. Was already married and had a family of his own. But we're. We're very twee up there. And we're still. We're still. When I was a little girl, and I thought. I really thought that, you know, when you went on a set and you played pretend and, you know, the actors who played your mommy and daddy were your real mom. Is she for real? Is she for real? I think she got her first real job when she was 15. I'm not buying it, sister. And secondly. Okay, here's my Michelle Williams story. I was told this. You know, I was told this story by someone who would know. So Michelle Williams famously lives in New York. She's lived in Brooklyn forever. And she had hair and makeup people at her house for some big event. And the. The hairstylist got through doing her, and the makeup person got through doing her. That can take hours, depending on where you're going, the look you're going for. Are these people familiar with you, your hair, your skin, whatever? So she let them go through all of that laborious, painstaking work, and then she turned to them, according to a friend of mine, and said to them, do you really think this looks good? Do you really think I should be leaving the fucking house looking like this? She reportedly, allegedly, not a pleasant person. Not a pleasant person. You know who a pleasant person is. By all accounts, Keri Russell, extremely loyal to her hair and makeup team, almost to a fault. People love her, apparently. Very, very nice. And she won. She won last night for the Diplomat, which was a surprise because she's, like, in that cohort of, like, New York actresses. Like, Rose Byrne is another. Like, they do really good work, and they're interesting, and they always show up on the red carpet, like, with real fashion, not, like this bullshit Hollywood glamour. Like, they have a little edge, a little urbanity to them, but they don't really play the game too hard. Like, you don't really see Keri Russell, like, gagging for awards the way, like, a Timothy does, just salivating. It's just, like, drip, you know what I mean? Okay, anyway, two more quick speeches because they have got to be addressed. These are offenders. Offenders. Jesse Buckley. Jesse Buckley, who is going to win the best actress Oscar for Hamnet. And you know why? It's a movie about Shakespeare, and it's got a child's death. That's it. You're going to win an Oscar. I, um. She has been given the treatment by the mainstream media as. Oh, she's just this humble girl who pretty much came out of nowhere, who is an otherworldly talent, absolutely deserves this award. And, you know, she seems to have her head on straight. Okay, listen to this speech and tell me if you can spot the monster within. Here we go.
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Actors/Presenters (various)
Want to, like, take a minute to see all these incredible, inspiring faces and souls in front of me? I have been categorically changed by so many people in this room and beyond to get to work with my heart and my hand and stand beside my brilliant, daring friends who show me their heart. I mean, what a way to spend a life. Thank you.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
I mean, again, are you responding to 9 11? Are you, like, responding to the Twin Towers?
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Actors/Presenters (various)
I'd like to.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
What? This is a rehearsed speech, by the way.
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Actors/Presenters (various)
I'd like to say a special thank you to my incredible friend and date tonight, Emily Watson.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Hyperventilating. Emily Watson's like, who breaking the waves
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Actors/Presenters (various)
made me whisper to myself, that's what I want to do.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Oh, this is.
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Actors/Presenters (various)
And to share those scenes with you in Hamnet, I will cherish that for the rest of my life. Your wild imagination, your brave, untethered womanhood, your ferocious gentleness is a guiding light to me. And the best advice that you always give to me is to always go back to the well of just being human. Ground zero, babe. You're the realest of the real. I love.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Okay, that's it. That's it. You know, they often say that if you win the actor award, once known as the SAG Award, that's like, your dry run. And, like, you're. What you're. You're always auditioning in Hollywood, and what you're really auditioning for is the. And you're telling the Academy what you will do and how you will comport yourself on Oscar night should you win. And if I'm an Oscar voter and I'm voting in that category, I'm voting for Rose Byrne just based on that pretentious bullshit, that rehearsed hyperventilation. Ground zero, babe. You're a real one. Can you get more Hollywood than that? Can you get slimier and slippery? Or if that's even a word. And just more like over. Like, that's embarrassing, you know? And Emily Watson sitting there like, me, me, me, me, me, me. I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. I would. I would absent myself immediately. And Breaking the Waves, by the way, Lars Von Chur is a up guy. Breaking the Waves is one of the most misogynistic movies ever made, hands down. Moving on to Delroy Lindo, who I loved up until he opened his mouth last night at giving the speech when Sinners won for, I think, best ensemble cast. Here we go. This project is anointed. This project is anointed. And from that standpoint, what? We are all anointed. Get it out, Delroy. Incredible journey created by the genius Ryan Coogler. Ryan Coogler is not a genius. He's not. I'm sorry. So Delroy went on for quite some time, and, you know, he got the signal. Wrap it the fuck up, dude. Okay? We're tired, we're bored. You're boring us. And as the most imperious actors and artists do, they say, fuck you. I'm not wrapping this up. I got more to say. And then see exactly what Delroy has to say. Okay, here we go. Thank you. Does not come anywhere near to encompassing what we feel. The gratitude. And they tell me to wrap up. I'm not going to wrap up. So, okay, so Delroy. So this just becomes this whole masturbatory exercise, and I'm on a stage. I won an award. My inner child should be fulfilled. It somehow is not. And I'm now being told to wrap it up because I'm boring everybody to tears. But I'm not going to wrap it up because this moment is a defining moment in my life. I may never get over it, and I've got shit to say. And then he stands there and he goes, ha, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. What the fuck is that? Have some decorum. Now on to the disaster that was the red carpet at the awards. Joining us now, Kinsey Schofield, host of the Must Subscribe, Kinsey Schofield. Unfiltered. Hello, Kinsey. Welcome back to the Nerve.
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Maureen Callahan
Did you not just feel like you were watching the Wuthering Heights press tour? Like, did. Did you not? Like every. Everything had a certain look. Am I just very dramatic?
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
What struck me were the amount of misses as opposed to hits and how everyman. My understanding is somehow Elle magazine got a hold of running the theme of the evening, and they decreed it was going to be like 1930s Hollywood. And so all these men showed up wearing what looked like zoot suits and they were very unflattering and none of them really looked terribly comfortable in them. But to begin with, I want to look at none other than Timothy Shyamalama Ding Dong and his mother. Now Timothy is in Prada. His mom is in something she got off the rack. And no offense to people who shop at TJ Maxx. I shop at TJ Maxx all the time. But this looks, this is a dress for day. This is a summer dress. She, it is a thin, cheap fabric. She is not wearing foundational undergarments. She is wearing platform. They look like plastic to me. Sandals. Timothy could have hooked his mother up with a stylist. He, he is dating Kylie Jenner. He has access to the best of the best. And here she is looking like she had one too many mimosas at Sunday brunch. Kinsey, what say you?
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Maureen Callahan
Well, does it concern you that she's there instead of Kylie and it looks like she's not prepared? Is there's, there a bigger story here? Is, you know, or is. Was there a blow up between Timothy and Kylie right before the award show and he had to call and say, mom, I need you to be my plus one? Because you're right, it's so off that there's almost no justification for it. No one stepped in and said, let's throw a black. Let's, let's do a basic black dress on you. But I also thought that Timothy kind of looked like a valet. I wanted to toss my car keys at him. So maybe they just were both not in sync. I mean, I'm thankful that we've retired the color orange, but this is not giving a for effort. I wish he'd shave his face too. I think he looks like a gerbil.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
He look, he looks sleazy, sceasy, unwashed. I do think it's the look he's going for. He may be going for the indie sleaze look of the early aughts. Interesting theory that perhaps there was a fight and his mom was drafted as the last minute plus one. But even so, I think if you are the professional that Timothy has been telling us, he is, lo these many months, disciplined, as he's been telling us, you are prepared for any eventuality. And if you have a relationship that is that combustible, you prepare. You've got your mother all hooked up. She's got her glam squad, she's got her options, she's got, you know, foundational Undergarments that are gonna make everything smoothed in and put together. You know what I mean? So I just think it's sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. And it's frankly the kind of laissez faire approach of someone who thinks he's a lock. And I was extremely gratified to see him shut out yet again. Best actor went to somebody other than him. Michael B. Jordan, who the room gave a standing ovation to. Okay, moving on to Katherine Hahn wearing Victor and Ralph Haute Couture. This. I took one look at this look, and I said, this woman's stylist hates her. Hates her. This is beyond unflattering. And I could not tell you what I would call those two hot pink, enormous accoutrements hanging off of her waist. They look like oversized epaulettes, but they're not epaulettes. Epaulets go on the shoulder. I've never seen anything like this. Kinsey. What do you make of it?
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Maureen Callahan
I love a good toll moment. You know, I love toll. I've covered the. I cover princesses, so that's my jam. But Coco Chanel said, before you leave the house, look in the mirror and remove one accessory. Accessory is whatever that pink thing was around her waist. It looks like a flotation device. Is this an audition for the new Baywatch reboot? I thought it was hideous. And tall. Also, like, I think sometimes it's appropriate, sometimes it's not appropriate. I think without that pink thing, it would have looked fine. But I. I wonder if we would have been complaining about the tall, too, because it is a little prom.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
It is prom. I mean, there's a way to give that. That dress some edge with a kind of belt or some sort of thing happening around the waist, but that's not it. And I feel like, you know, it's true what they say. The camera does add 10 pounds. And affixing those hot pink. Your eye goes right to the hot pink. It goes right to the waist, as you said. It goes right to that, like, super poofy tulle, you know, skirt. It just. It was a mess. A mess. Okay. Another one who I think think the stylists hate her, or this woman really does think she knows what she's doing. Tiana Taylor, who I think is one of the most overblown, overhyped actresses out there. Here she is on the red carpet with her little girl. Not appropriate. She's wearing a Tom Brown dress. It looks like the top. Like, it's reminiscent of. Remember that vanity. Her daughter's doing the right thing. Walk away Kid, walk away. This scene is not for you. You're better than this. Remember that Vanity Fair cover where Demi Moore was wearing body paint and her breasts were painted over? That's what this Thom Brown thing looks like. Like, it's. It's like swirly body paint where her breast should be. It's very. It's needlessly provocative, I think, especially for the SAG Actor Awards, where you are trying to be taken seriously as an actor. What do you think?
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Maureen Callahan
And when you're one accessory is your child. You got.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Your child should not be an accessory.
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Maureen Callahan
And you got your titties popping out when you're. Your major accessory is your baby girl. I mean, I hate this dress. I think it's camp. I expect to see a lot of this at this year's Met Gala, you know, with the art theme. But her daughter is so cute. So I won't dwell on the belly button art, but I just did. I thought, what the hell is she wearing? This is not a costume party. You know, again, it's about what. What's appropriate for the event. What' appropriate for the moment. And I just did not. I thought it was silly.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Don't be so desperate. Don't think that, like, this is the only night you're gonna get, like, the world's cameras on you. You know, play it cool a little bit. Okay. Kristen Wiig, she's wearing Christian Cowan. And I do believe the purpose of this dress is to show everybody how she's doing on Ozempic.
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Maureen Callahan
Oh, my God. I knew you.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Allegedly. Reportedly. Just my opinion. This woman is in her mid-50s. She has not an ounce of fat on her. She looks skeletal. And why else would we be denying ourselves food if not for this moment where we can show our rib cage and what looks like breast implants?
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Maureen Callahan
We've had a conversation before, and I think it's worth exploring or revisiting. You know, she. She definitely looks hungry. And Kate Moss said nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. But I think that she hated her time at snl. She hated being goofy. She hated being a nerd. She hated being silly. This is my personal opinion. And right now, she's in full SL sex pot mode. You know, like, I had some very
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
good work done on her face. Very good, very subtle.
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Maureen Callahan
Just my opinion, but, you know, she went from snl, you know, Target employee to Maxim girl overnight, and it feels like a rejection of that past trauma. I think Lauren Michaels is a nightmare to work with, and it just feels like she is, you know, wants to be beautiful.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
She Wants to be sexy. But, like, at a certain age, there's a way to do that without slinging your wares all over a red carpet like you're a starlet. Who's got this one shot. Gwyneth Paltrow in Givenchy. I loved this look. And my favorite part of the look, I'll tell you, are the turquoise earrings. Those earrings, I read, date back to the 1930s. And I think these earrings are sleeping beauty turquoise. And I have a pair, and it's a kind of turquoise. It's rare. They are so soft and beautiful, that turquoise. And I just. I think it's a stunning look. I loved it. What do you think?
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Maureen Callahan
You know, I think that I've been spoiled. I have come to like Gwyneth Paltrow for her boyfriend breakfasts where she's in her pajamas and her hair is crazy and her glasses are on, so I get a little whiplash now when I see her on a carpet like that. I immediately thought that looks too girly girl for her because I've become, you know, like, obsessed with this goop character, this hippie character she's built. So, you know, I wasn't as smitten with it as you were. But perhaps I just need to readjust my Gwyneth glasses.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Yeah. You know, day to night. Ken's day to night. Demi Moore in Schiaparelli Couture. Now, this is on the heels of her appearance at Fashion Week, at the Gucci show, in particular. Number one. I love this look. I've always loved Schiaparelli, but she is skeletal. She is skeletal. And people saying that this is a good look is to me, again, some of the most dangerous messaging we can get. I hate seeing women looking emaciated like this Kinsey. What do you. What do you think of this Vegas showgirl?
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Maureen Callahan
But I'd always. Or. But I'd also say, like, did she get her face fixed? Because remember when she.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
My opinion, you don't get. Listen, she's over 60. She's had three kids. Her weight has gone up and down. As she wrote about in her memoir, she's had no shortage of eating disorders. Gravity works one way. Okay? You know, suddenly you're waking up because you. Because you drank some green juice. Like Jennifer Aniston loves to say, you know, no surgical intervention.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah, yeah. No, I. I think she looks great. But also, she's too thin. She's absolutely too thin. But whoever fixed her face after that botched thing that happened right here, New York doctor.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Yeah, whoever did that, very good authority
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Maureen Callahan
God bless that person in New York
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
to get that rectified. You know, some stuff is irreversible. She was very lucky. She was very lucky. I want to take a look at Charlie Hunnam, who I love. I think you know Charlie. His looks, I do believe, outpace his talent. He had just some more talent. He would be a movie star for the ages. But he doesn't. He's limited. It's fine. He's in Brioni here. I love this look. I love it. This deep saturated velvet blue blazer on top of, again, turquoise. It's sort of a little bit of an emerging theme here. The pants are tailored beautifully. It is a modern look. He did not go zoot suit costume style, per the edicts of Dying L Magazine. Your thoughts, Kinsey?
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Maureen Callahan
Like, I just love a sexy man who's like, a man who doesn't look feminine, doesn't carry a purse. Jake.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
I can carry off velvet. Not every straight man can carry off velvet like that.
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Maureen Callahan
I mean, the fact. The fact that we're not comparing him to Willy Wonka, you know, maybe it's the facial hair.
- [34:01]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Imagine Timothy trying to pull that look off.
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Maureen Callahan
No, he would look. He would look silly. It's. There's something very sexy and manly about him. And, you know, my mom and I always joke that he should have done the 50 shades of gray. You know, he turned that down.
- [34:15]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Yes. He pulled out of that.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah. And we're always like, God, he should have done that. He'd be such a movie star now. But the reason he. The reason we can, you know, still look at him and go, oh, he's a moon. Is because he doesn't do projects like that. So maybe there's a, you know, maybe that's benefited him in the long run.
- [34:31]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Perhaps. We shall see. Okay, I wanna take a look at a couple of others. Sarah Pidgeon in Balenciaga, who right now is just the it girl of the moment for her role as Carolyn Bissette Kennedy in Ryan Murphy's love story, which is an ongoing topic of conversation here at the Nerve. Now, I saw a lot of people did not like this dress. I love this dress. I think the ruching at the top is off. That needed to be fixed. I don't think it was designed to look. It's asymmetrical. Same with the bottom. But I thought this was a very interesting modern look. And I love the color on her.
- [35:07]
Maureen Callahan
I love that you love it. I think I want to clean my toilet bowl. Based on what I just witnessed, it looks like A toilet brush.
- [35:16]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
It does to you.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah, I don't. She's so sexy and thin and, you know, she's got that paltrow body that I feel like it's not. I think I feel like I. I want to see her in something sleek and a body con.
- [35:32]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
You know what I think she's doing, though? I think she's leaning into the high fashion avant gardeism of a Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, who when she did go to red gala, red tie, sorry, black tie events, red carpet galas, she would wear like a Yoki Yamamoto. She would swerve a little bit. She would go for the Japanese designer. And I think that's. I think that Sarah Pigeon is trying to borrow a little bit of that kind of stardust and play the long game of I'm just not your average sexy starlet. You know, I think it would have been a mistake for her to show up as Emma Stone did. And we can show Emma Stone right here trying to recreate that late mid to late 90s y2k slinky Calvin Klein look. Like that would have been a little bit too on the nose and, and almost like, you know, as. As Meghan Markle does with Diana skinning and wearing fur body parts. Okay, a couple of others. This one annoyed me to no end. Jessie Buckley, who is highly tipped to win the Best Actress Oscar at. In. In a couple of weeks. She won Best Actress on Sunday night at the Actor Awards. She is wearing Balenciaga as well. I hate this. I hate it. I don't understand the asymmetrical cape. I don't see what this is doing for her. She has, as we just discussed earlier, taken herself very, very seriously also. I hate the blonde on her. And I feel like I can say this as someone who went from like almost black hair to blonde. Some dark hair will not lift. That's what they call lifting when they color hair. It won't go all the way to blonde. It'll stall out at like a salmon or a kind of a yellowy that it doesn't quite work. And I don't think Jessie Buckley's hair A, lifts properly for what she wants to do. And B, I really think that to be a blonde, you kind of have to spiritually be a blonde. There are many kinds of blondes to be. But I just don't. Jessie Buckley does not read to me as spiritually a blonde. She reads to me as a prissy nose up her own asshole, full of herself, you know, theater trained Brit. And I just think she should Lean into her bitchy brunet. Ness. But I don't know. What do I know? Tell me what you think you know.
- [37:51]
Maureen Callahan
She was a reality star.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
No.
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Maureen Callahan
Yes.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
She's acting like Shakespeare himself trained her at the Globe Theater. She was on reality tv.
- [38:01]
Maureen Callahan
She did, like, a reality show with. Who did Cats. How am I spacing on his name?
- [38:07]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Andrew Lloyd Webber.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah, it was a reality show with Andrew Lloyd Webber, and she was on. On a reality show with him.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
What was the premise of this show
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Maureen Callahan
where you were competing to become, like, a theater star and, you know, but it was like American Idol style where they're interviewing her parents in hallways and, like, really grubby. So you're gonna have to. I'll send you links, but.
- [38:25]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Oh, we've gotta revisit this. When we do our Oscars livestream that Kinsey's joining live on Oscar night, she will be here in New York City. Okay, the last one. Unfortunately, we're running out of time. Patricia Arquette. Listen, I love Rick Owens. I don't know what this is. This looks like we. These are the kinds of people I see at the airport, and I. My soul dies.
- [38:52]
Maureen Callahan
Oh, my God.
- [38:52]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
You couldn't just pull it together. You don't have something tailored that is also comfortable that you can wear out in public? Patricia Arquette looked a hotel mess. What? What?
- [39:07]
Maureen Callahan
But don't you think that she's lost weight, too? Don't you think she's doing Ozempic, too? I do, because she usually looks much heavier than she did at this event. I think she's doing that poke I the jab.
- [39:19]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
You know, I don't see evidence of it. It could be, but if she is, and that's what she's trying to show us, she's wearing a layer upon layer of red. Red tights on top of what looks like an asymmetrical red skirt on top of, like, what looks like a heavy, longer jacket that is then belted. And it's all the same material. So you have no, like, textural, you know, interest or, like. There's like. It's just. I'm just hit with, like, a gob of red. She. She looks like the Nerve logo.
- [39:50]
Maureen Callahan
She does. She does. She would be lucky if she were the Nerve logo. I don't ever consider her really to be somebody that I look to for fashion advice. I think she's looked horrendous on red carpets over the last few years. You know, I guess. Guess we could say at least she's still trying. But I did feel like when I saw this image of her, I thought, I think she's lost some weight. And because I'm used to her body, it felt like something intentional, something that everyone in Hollywood's doing. But, you know, maybe she's on, on the drug.
- [40:22]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Well, listen, I know Patricia Arquette is, is a sort of, you know, someone who beats to her own drummer and we love people like that here at the Nerf. But I really think she needs a designer like a Christian Siriano who can take women of all different shapes, sizes, heights, taste levels, what have you. And he can make anyone look their absolute best. And I would encourage her to. I think she's worked with him before and I think that she should work with him again.
- [40:49]
Maureen Callahan
Agree. I totally agree with you.
- [40:51]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Thanks Kinsey for joining us for this most serious discussion. Can't wait to see you on Oscar night and probably before.
- [40:58]
Maureen Callahan
Thank you.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
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we are back and it is time for troublemaker emails. Now we got a lot of response, a lot on our mini nerve from this past weekend about Jay Shetty. Boy, you guys were asking for it and you really responded. This from troublemaker Diana from Ireland. She has written in before on Jay Shetty. I've never bought into his quote phenomenon. I don't find him sincere, inspirational or even likable. Right there with you, Diana. When I saw him on Jada Pinkett's Red Table Talk some years ago, which I watched out of curiosity. Hey, no shame. You will never be shamed here at the Nerve Troublemaker. I drew absolutely nothing from that conversation. Jay Shetty clearly brainwashed Jada into thinking that cheating on her husband with her son's 20 something year old friend was just an entanglement as she called it. He fits right in with the fake and rotten Hollywood celebrity crowd. He also looks like the blue eyed lemur. Thank you, Diana. Subject matter, Jay. Shitty. It's too easy. Am I right? Okay, this writer. Personally I think the reason Hollywood has turned into a bunch of bobbleheads that actually think we care about their opinions about politics, et cetera, is because they haven't had anybody call them out on their bullshit like the Nerf does. Thank you kindly, troublemaker. Now on to Jay Shetty. He is like the charismatic preacher that chastises you on how you should live your life while he's boozing it up with whores on private jets. Just this troublemaker's opinion. We're not saying he's doing that with your donations. Again, just this troublemaker's opinion slash supposition. I do not understand how people can't see through this guy. How he tries to belittle the question about him not following his own advice by implying the New York Times reporter David Marchese just doesn't understand. Hilarious. Agreed. And David, get a backbone. Don't put up with that from an interview subject, okay? You are there for the likes of us not to cater to the likes of them. Okay, if you're doing it right. P.S. says troublemaker Tony. When is the FBI going to get on this Steadman Graham thing? My thoughts exactly. Another Jay Shetty one. It's troublemaker Angela from Asheville again. Hi Angela. Love the mini first became familiar with Jay Shetty when he would regularly appear on Jada Pinkett Smith's online show Red Table Talk that was just all about spilling her familial dysfunction all over Facebook. Now I see Jay everywhere. Jada used to say all the time that she had worked with him on her own personal development. Wow, that's some branding, isn't it? I don't think Jay was very good at what he did because she's still a hot mess. And maybe Will Smith could have taken part in the sessions a little more often so he didn't have a slapping meltdown during the Oscars on national television. Again, Jay said. Jay Shetty's clientele is not the best advertising Paul from New Zealand Hello Maureen and Team Nerve. Thank you very much for the nerve YouTube shout out. We'd love to anytime, Paul. New artwork attached. Jay Shifty Shetty, Con man no one does it like Paul in the nerve. YouTube Comments Clever troublemakers point out that Jay Shetty was a guest on Meghan Markle's podcast Like Attracts Like. Agreed. We are going to dig that out and revisit it. Marlena and I were talking about it just this weekend. It's like a no brainer note, says Paul. The green colored contacts are a reference to your eagle eye. We agree with you. I guess Paul is referring to my theory that Jay Shetty is wearing colored contacts to make his eyes look that hypnotic kind of blue and that he and Jim Curtis of the Yellow Butterfly fixation are two sides of the same coin. Our last email before we get into an incredible segment that I'm so excited to discuss with you guys. Troublemaker Lori, also from North Carolina. Okay, I received a free copy of People magazine today. Sympathies. Even free doesn't really ameliorate the garbage inside. Flipped it open and there was the love story of John, John and Carolyn. I almost gagged through it right in the trash. I'm an original from the very first episode. We salute you OG Troublemakers. Please stop making me listen to Ryan Reynolds commercials for Mint Mobile. Listen, I can't do it. And also, I have to be honest, it is beyond gratifying that cultural offenders that we take out to the woodshed that we are dragging nay over to the wood shipper want to give the Nerve their advertising dollars because even they can't deny the reach that we've got. Could there be anything more poetically justifiable in us taking their ad dollars? Pyro Ryan Psycho Arsonist Ryan. Every time I see a mint mobile pop up during like a YouTube episode, I laugh out loud. Oh my God. Okay, keep your feedback coming. Email me please. Maureen at devil may care media.com is my email or DM me on Instagram at Maureen Callahan, writer or at the Nerve Show. 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Co-host/Cultural Critic
We are back now, while Ryan Murphy's love story, which we are going to get to in a moment, is yet the latest rehash of a Kennedy fairy tale. And I say fairy tale because that's what it is. As discussed, the real story is a lot more compelling. Weird, fucked up. The mainstream media still continues to push this bullshit even though the culture's like, listen, we know the truth. We've seen behind the curtain. Ask not exists. For this reason, Jack Schlossberg, okay, JFK's grandson, Caroline Kennedy's kid, is running for Congress from New York's 12th district. Now New York is suffering enough. He was the subject of a puff piece done by Mo Rocca over on CBS Sunday Morning. And you know, if Barry Weiss is really intent on cleaning up the news division over there, I mean, I would have had this segment in my effing crosshairs. You can believe it. We're going to show you what they think is. Is suitable. This is propaganda, okay? It's probably pushing of beta lesser Kennedys who have nothing to do. This guy has nothing to do. So you know what? He thinks I'm entitled. I'm entitled to a seat in Congress. I'm entitled to making legislation and having a say in the way government works. You're not. You're not Jane Pauly. Okay, we're gonna watch Jane Pauly intro and then I can't wait to do this because Jane Pauley's diction and enunciation has driven me crazy forever. And I gotta get it out. I gotta get it out with you guys. Okay, here we go. He's heir to one of the most storied family dynasties in American politics. Now taking his first steps into the spotlight. He's heir to one of the most storied dynasties in American politics. I mean, first, she's got these. She's got this like, kind of like. It's almost like a hiccup. And she's from the Midwest, but it's always like, her O's are always like, oh, it drives me up the wall. I'm sure we'll have occasion to revisit it. But. But we're also doing this hori. Hori intro yet again. He's part of. You could call it a story Dynasty. Hey, Lobotomizing your daughter because you might have been sexually abusing her and you need to shut her up, leaving her with the mental and physical capacities of a two year old before you throw her away. Story Dynasty. Hey, you left a young campaign aide to like die in three feet of water because, like, you felt like it. Story Dynasty. Hey, Jack Kennedy may have had something to do with Marilyn Monroe's death. Left his wife to mourn their stillborn, stillborn daughter for 10 days while he was out effing bikini babes in the Mediterranean. Oh, by the way, had Jackie institutionalized because she was upset he was never coming home at night. She couldn't figure it out. Had her subject to electroshock therapy three times in one week. Story Dynasty, CBS and Jane Pauley. Get the fuck out of here. Okay? Jack is campaigning. Jack is campaigning. And listen, you know you are in trouble when the people who are most receptive to your message are near death. Okay? And I mean no disrespect, but he should really be appealing to people his own age or younger. And here's Jack trying to make it happen at an old folks rec room in Manhattan. Here we go. We are honored to have Jack, the grandson of John F. Kennedy. Thank you for being here, Jack.
- [56:23]
Mo Rocca
For Jack Schlossberg, it can seem like his grandfather still gets top billing.
- [56:28]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Your father or your grandfather.
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Mo Rocca
Yeah, John Kennedy, grandpa.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Yeah, yeah. Because he does. Because Jack doesn't have any bona fides of his own, nor does he have a campaign manager, nor does it seem a campaign staff, because the Kennedys historically were all about optics. And look where Jack is. He's standing in front of a row of garbage cans. What is that telling us? Jack's garbage. Jack's trash. You know, not since Harry stood in front of garbage and recycling cans while randomly ringing doorbells in London after what looked like a night of hard partying trying to find friends who did not leave their forwarding address. Know what I'm saying? Now, Mo Rocca. I'm sorry. He's. He seems like a nice guy, but he does softer pieces and he should not be doing this, okay? You should have somebody who's willing to get a little bit adversarial. After all, this guy is asking for the vote of New Yorkers. So prove yourself, sir. Just like your mother. His mother tried to inherit Hillary Clinton's Senate seat. She said to the governor of New York at the time, give it to me. And the governor said, no, go earn it. And so she went around talking to the New York media, which was predisposed to love Caroline Kennedy. And she was so entitled and such a moron who couldn't string a sentence together that even the New York media was like, f this bitch. Here's mo.
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Mo Rocca
But the 33 year old grandson of the late President of the United States. Hi, I'm Jack. Is out to make a name for himself. Hey, what's going on? What's up? I'm Jack. John Bouvier Kennedy Schlossberg is running for Congress in New York's 12th district.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Okay. Mo says the 33 year old is out to make a name for himself. Why hasn't he done so already? He's 33 years old. Mo, why don't you tell us the truth, that Jack Schlossberg has never had a real job. Why don't you say it's really kind of that you have to say Jack Bouvier Kennedy Schlossberg means that this guy has nothing else than his name, which Americans are sick of hearing, is equates with American royalty. It simply isn't. So now Jack and Mo are going to tell us that Jack isn't just some Internet troll who was rolling around town in a murder van as recently as last summer. No, Jack's a serious, serious guy. Here we go. News flash.
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Mo Rocca
Republicans are lying, fighting words from someone who's amassed an army of 2 million followers on social media.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
I've been following you on Instagram since I was like, 15.
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Mo Rocca
Thank you. With some posts that are plain old silly. And others that seek to educate and are positively wonky. So SRD salt, cap repeal, Fix it now caucus, and still others that have been more polarizing. A lot of people talk, okay? They said, I'm gonna leave. They say I do these accents. I'm making fun of people, making fun of working people. Not my intention. No disrespect, respect whatsoever. You need to be aggressive right now to get your message through. Some of it's very funny, but I'll tell you one that made me wince. Okay, okay.
- [60:01]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
It's about elbows getting spiky.
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Mo Rocca
Vice President J.D. vance's wife, Usha Vance, specifically the one where you superimposed your face on one of her kids. The joke being that you and she had a love child. Now she's not elected. Is that crossing a line? I think what's crossing a line is the propaganda that we see issued every single day by the White House.
- [60:25]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Listen, I'm not coming at this from either side of the aisle. I'm coming at this as this is a Nepo baby supreme who thinks that he is the reincarnation of his grandfather, which you would not want to be if you really knew anything about your grandfather. And instead of answering the question, which is that Jack engages in very juvenile stunts designed to generate clicks and likes, listen, you can have 2 million followers. And if all of those are real, let's give them the benefit of the doubt. A lot of that could be rubbernecking, Mo. You know, not for nothing, but a fair amount. At least one Alpha Kennedy. But the New York Post ran a big story around last summer that was well sourced within the Kennedy family, basically saying that Jack Schlossberg and his mommy Caroline were Persona non grata with the rest of the family. Because Jack is really unhinged to the point where they question his mental stability and they think he needs help. And we all know what that's code for. One of them said, I hope he gets the help he needs. And not for nothing, we're going to get to it. His mother and father are out here pushing him, pushing him on us. You know, really, he's your problem. Okay, Ed and Caroline, he's your effing problem. Don't give him to the rest of us. But my favorite thing about that is he's asked a serious question, which is like you're going after someone who's not elected, and you're making jokes about her actually having sex with you, and then you two having a love child together. You know, what do you. What do you have to say to that? And he goes, well, what's. What I have to say is, what are we going to do about this? And that's not answering the question. So Mo, to his credit, does follow up. It's gentle, but he follows up. Here we go.
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Mo Rocca
So is there a line? The line has been, first of all, I don't think anyone was seriously thinking that. That I meant that we did actually have a love child.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
This is not a master debater. He could be a masturbator, but he's not a master debater. Know what I'm saying? Now, this is from Jack's Instagram account from one year ago. This was posted on March 1, 2025. It is a mock up of Vice President J.D. vance, and it's Jack calling J.D. vance a gay boy. Does this person have the emotional, intellectual, psychological maturity to be sitting in Congress? You know, not for nothing, mental illness runs rampant through both the Kennedy side of the family and the bouvier side of the family. Here's John talking to Kennedy lapdog Jen Psaki about the Legitimacy of his statement designed to provoke and get eyeballs. That and outrage that Usha Vance was, quote, way hotter than his grandmother, Jackie Onassis. Here we go.
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Mo Rocca
It's all public.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
True or false. Usha Vance is way hotter than Jackie. Oh, who?
- [63:43]
Mo Rocca
That's right, everyone. That's my grandmother. Why would I say something like that? Packed into that creepy, weird. Why would he say something like, why did he do that? Isn't that weird? It's his grandma. Well, that's why I did it.
- [63:59]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
He can't really. He doesn't really know unless he truly knows. He's just doing it because people will think it's weird and it's creepy and it's going to get him attention. And any attention, even negative attention, is better than no attention. And the culture increasingly is saying, go the fuck away. Okay? We don't want to deal with unserious people, especially in elected office. Now, Jack said last year, after one of many full on meltdowns on social media, one of which came after I wrote a critical column about him, he then went on Instagram and he came up with like a very vulgar name for me, which I won't repeat, simply because I don't want to give him the satisfaction. And he went after some other people. And after that, it came out that it looked like his mommy had grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and engaged in some kind of attempted intervention. And then Jack came back to social media to say he was really sorry for everything that he had said, not forgiven. Okay? Cause I don't think this guy means a goddamn thing he says, and that he was going to leave social media forever. And we all know that means that someone's coming back within five hot minutes, which of course, he did. Now, here is Jack's justification to CBS and Mo Rocca for his social media word salad slash vomit.
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Mo Rocca
And what? I'm not supposed to make fun of J.D. vance and his family? Why? For Schlossberg, politics is personal. My grandmother wasn't elected. My Uncle John wasn't elected. People feel absolute free reign to say whatever they want about them. So I'm going to throw it right back at you, because you know what? The time is not now to hold back, sit on your hands and say, hmm, okay, well, why don't we just play it safe? Absolutely not. We got to get these people out of here.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
I don't understand what he's saying because he's then saying, Mo says, isn't it unfair to go after Usha Vance because she's not Elected. He's like, no, she's fair effing game. But then he invokes his grandmother, Jackie Kennedy Onassis, and his uncle John Jr. JFK Jr. And says, you know, they weren't elected officials, but they were. Like, they were covered by the media all the time. Well, you know what, asshole? Jackie did love being famous. So did JFK Jr. They engaged in it. They lived in the media capital of the world. You know, it's not that heavy of a burden to bear. He makes absolutely no sense. Basically, he's sitting there and saying, I'm acting like a toddler and I want to name call. I'm going to name call, because you know what? We got to get these people out of here. Like, it doesn't. None of it tracks. None of it tracks. Now, Caroline Kennedy rarely does press. Rarely. And her husband, Ed Schlossberg, even more rare. But they sat down for this, which means they really want this for their kid. And they're doing this, by the way, while Love Story, the Ryan Murphy version of Caroline's brother's disastrous relationship and marriage with Carolyn Bessette, is airing on Hulu and fx. Okay, so this tells us a lot. This tells us a lot. Now, Mo's tough corps questioning. Jack calls his parents, his trusted advisors, and what do Caroline and Ed have to say to this most laudatory comment? Here we go.
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Mo Rocca
I don't want to make any assumptions here, but there are about a dozen candidates running for the Democratic nomination. Who are you backing,
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
jack for New York 12. Believe in something again.
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Mo Rocca
My son, Jack Schlossberg calls one of America's most prominent Democrats, who's also his mother, Caroline Kennedy, and his father, artist Ed Schlossberg, his most trusted advisors.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Nobody knows what Ed Schlossberg does for a living. I mean, even John Jr. Used to make jokes about it. He'd be like, I have no idea what this guy does for. For a fucking living. Now, Jack may be more like his Uncle John than Caroline would like to admit, because we are running for our first elected office in, again, the media capital of the world. But Jack doesn't have a team. Jack doesn't have a campaign manager. And it's not because he's an outsider, a maverick, a renegade, a political slave scion who knows this game better than anybody could know, because no one will work for this kid. Here we go.
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Mo Rocca
He doesn't have a formal campaign organization. He doesn't have a campaign manager. Is that wise?
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Well, I really trust Jack. I trust his judgment and some of the Other people have been preparing for this for years and years. But he came to this new. I mean, he's the outsider in this race actually. Oh really? He's the outsider. He's, he's a Kennedy. And this is the deal. This is, this is what they do. They always try to thread this needle, the Kennedys. You know, some of these other people have been preparing for this for years, for their whole lives. Yeah, those are the people to look at. Seriously. The people have been grinding it out in the unglamorous lower levels of politics at the local level. You think it's glamorous sitting on the city council?
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Actors/Presenters (various)
No.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
You think it's glamorous sitting on a school board?
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Maureen Callahan
No.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
But here comes Jack. I'm a Kennedy, but Jack's the outsider because he's a Kennedy. No, Jack's in there because he's a nepotistic asshole. Let's look at this headline from the New York Post. Jack Schlossberg's campaign manager already out weeks after Kennedy Scion launched Congress bid. As the New York Post reported in a piece by Emily Crane Published December 5, 2025, Jack Schlossberg's campaign manager has already left the job just weeks after he kicked off his bid. Annabel Lasselli, who was hired to help launch the then 32 year old's Democratic primary campaign, has confirmed that she now no longer work works rather for the social media loving candidate. The circumstances surrounding her departure, which was first reported by Politico weren't immediately clear. That means she quit. Jack, my opinion, but you know, I've been doing this for a long time. Jack, now Mo is in Jack's apartment interviewing Jack. And Jack seems to have a number of skeletons that are dressed up in costumes. One seems to have a top hat. I don't see any questions about this. And I'm sorry, could you imagine you're a 33 year old man living in an apartment that is surely subsidized by your mommy and daddy because you've never had a real job and it's above any sort of living situation for somebody who's been underemployed, if not unemployed. I'm sorry, working as Vogue's political correspondent for six months does not count. So what's with the skeletons? What's with the costuming of the skeletons? How are we affording this apartment? Have you ever in your life encountered anything that a working person in New York ever struggles with? And how would you relate to them, let alone earn their vote? But he's going to tell us that in order to keep his eyes on that pride on that prize rather, he sleeps in front of his whiteboard with his diagrams on it. And then after this, his mother's going to talk about her son's many diplomas, which we're all going to dismantle together because we're all of a like mind about this shit. Here we go.
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Mo Rocca
This is where I. So I lie down in bed at night and I can look at my plans. An outsider with the lay down in bed of an insider. Jack's tariff plan lowered the cost of food and clothes, the housing plan. Schlossberg has a degree in history from Yale as well as a law degree and an MBA from Harvard. With that education, he's a legend for a lot of things.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Right.
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Mo Rocca
He doesn't have to run for office.
- [72:25]
Co-host/Cultural Critic
Yeah. I think he'd be great at this though. I mean, we need people with education and we need people who are really informed and bring a set of values. Values? Oh my God. What? I would have killed. I would have killed to have been in Mo Rocca's chair. Set of values. Are you effing kidding? Oh, Jack has this very fancy education. I know a lot of people who have fancy educations. Doesn't mean they're bright, doesn't mean they're original or critical thinkers. You know, Jack. So Mo transitions from Jack, Owen. Hey, man, look at Jack's tariff plan, Jack's tariff plan, Jack's plan for this. First of all, he's talking about himself in the third person. She means he really thinks highly of himself. Okay? Secondly, Mo, what is Jack's tariff plan? What are Jack's policy proposals? Instead, we segue right into Jackson. Jack's very fancy education at institutions that educated no shortage of Kennedies where they would surely be happy to take no shortage of Kennedy money. I think if Jack were a brilliant mind, we'd have known about it by now. I think if Jack were a brilliant mind, he would have shown us this by now. But what was Jack doing a year ago? Jack was dancing ballet. Here we go. Here's Jack dancing ballet. I don't know when he took this up, he seemed to treat it sometimes seriously, sometimes like a gag. But, you know, I mean, I had to take ballet as a young teenager in high school. It was a requirement. And you know, it's still, even as a teenager, it wasn't that easy to learn. It's something you really have to start pretty young. You can't go into ballet as a 30 something. Your muscles, your musculature, it's just. It's not built for it. But if that's not the metaphor for Jack Kennedy and Kennedy's all over the place, like, I have no. I have no business being here. But I'm going to insert myself and I'm going to just twirl around and just adore me. Just adore me. Now, Jack is. Says to us that he is a Kennedy, but not really. Again, trying to thread this needle is not going to work because you can't be running by dint of your family name and family legacy, which, again, is in the shitter, and then say that you're not doing the same thing. Here we go.
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Mo Rocca
Because, you know, when they say the Kennedy family, you think of those photos with like a cast of thousands.
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Maureen Callahan
Yeah.
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Mo Rocca
And you guys usually aren't in those photos. Yeah, we're not really in those photos.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
They don't want you there.
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Mo Rocca
That's a lot of. I mean, I don't want to. It's all good, but, you know, family's complicated.
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Co-host/Cultural Critic
Family's complicated. Family's complicated. Yeah. Especially when, like, your mo. Your closest relative, one generation above you, JFK Jr killed his wife, her sister and himself in a wholly avoidable plane crash. And, I mean, I'm scratching the surface. Scratch. Yeah. Family is complicated, Jack. You could say that. That does it. That does it. For our Tuesday edition of the Nerve. Come back and see us tomorrow for a dishy, super fun nerve at night. If you haven't already, check out our substack@thenerveshow.com Be sure to subscribe and go over and buy some Nerve merch right there too for yourself, or pick something up for a fellow troublemaker@shop thenerve.com you can also listen to the Nerve every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 9am Eastern on Megan's Podcast Playlist. You can find that on SiriusXM channel 111, the Megan Kelly channel. We will see you back here tomorrow at the Nerve, where you will never guess what we're about to say next. Day or night. VRBoCare is here 247 to help make every part of your stay seamless. If anything comes up or you simply need a little guidance, support is ready whenever you reach out. From the moment you book to the moment you head home. We're here to help things run smoothly because a great trip starts with the right support. And hey, a good playlist doesn't hurt either.
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Mo Rocca
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