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Maureen Callahan (1:01)
Hello and welcome to the Nerve. I'm Maureen Callahan. We have such an incredible show for you today. We've got Jack Schlossberg's boycott of the Met Gala. As if anyone cares. But there's reason to dive into this, I promise. We've got is relative Maria Shriver's new self help book, which we're also going to take apart. We've got even more on Meghan Markle, and I promise you this is you're gonna die because I'm taking. I'm just not even gonna spoil it for you. We've got Walton Goggins from the White Lotus who really has it coming. So we are tackling a ton of stuff today. But before we get into all of that, I would like to talk a little bit about what I did a few days ago. As you guys know, I am hardly one to talk myself up, but I have been expanding my resume. As you know, I am now an actress. I have appeared in a short film called With Love Megan. That's Megan with a Y. And a new trailer has dropped from your friend and mine, Megyn Kelly, in which we I. You know what? I can't spoil anything. This is really Megan's story to tell. But I want to address one Gayle King directly. Gayle, you are out banging the drum in front of any media outlet that will have you about what an inspiration you are now that you have been to outer space and how nobody can relate to you now that you've been to outer space and how nobody is allowed to talk to you anymore unless you've been to outer space. Gail, to you I say, I, too, have now added astronaut to my resume. You may feel free to call me directly if you're feeling lonely or DM me if you wanna talk about the rigors of becoming such a legend in your own time. And I also would just like to say that in my roughly 30 minutes of intense training to take this little joyride, I learned a very interesting fact that I had not known that There are only 600 and maybe 63 astronauts in the scope of human history, and 23,000 people out of a planet of 7 billion have taken a joyride to achieve weightlessness. So, Gail, let me put it in parlance. You might understand. I see you, I acknowledge you, I celebrate your greatness, and I stand in your truth. Truly, I salute you. You have it all coming, every single bit. And by the way, I couldn't be happier to hear that your morning show, which is terrible, has been tanking in the ratings and has shed about a million and.9. So sorry, 1.9 million viewers since you've been bragging about this disgusting, obscene, vulgar trip into outer space. Love you. Now, let's talk a little bit about the White House Correspondents Dinner, which happened this weekend, an event that I have been to now three times or maybe two and a half. And I will explain so what you see and what is sold to you on, you know, the showbiz gossip shows like the Extras, the Access Hollywoods or like on CNN or whatever news channel of your choice, they will depict this as one of the most exclusive, glamorous elite events of the year. Trust me when I tell you nothing could be further from the truth. So I'm going to give you a little recap with some personal anecdotes and gossip. My first year was in 2023. That was the year reality, fellow reality TV show lovers will understand this. It was the year of scandival. It was the year that Vanderpump Rules broke through that little genre bubble. It was in the Bravo verse, as it's called, and into. Straight into America's collective vein. It was just jacked into our veins constantly. So our guests that year were Lisa Vanderpump, the sort of doyen of the show, and Ariana Maddox, who was depicted. And if you do a rewatch, you'll see that I'm right, wrongly depicted as the wronged woman who. Who had just suffered humiliation after humiliation. So those two were guests of the Daily Mail, where I call them twice a week. They were our guests at our table and these tables cost, like, again, it's like, an obscene amount of money. It's like 25 or 35,000 to buy a table. So these are coveted seats. And if you get invited, the deal is you come to play. Now, next to our table sat the family of Evan Gershkovich. And if you recall, Evan was the young. I think he was like, 28 years old. WALL Street Journal reporter. He was in Russia, covering Russia for the Journal. He was abducted by Putin's, like, secret intelligence agency, thrown into a Russian prison. He was fated to spend the rest of his life there. Okay, Joe Biden's president, he's there. Colin Jost is hosting his wife. Scarlett Johansson is there. Keri Russell from the Diplomat is there. Lynda Carter. Wonder Woman is there. It's a very starry evening. Trust me when I tell you that Evan Gershkovich's family, which should have been the sole focus of this night, nobody gave a shit. The only people anybody wanted to see was Lisa Vanderpump. And Ariana and LVP won by a mile, by the way. So she's sitting next to me or a seat away. Before the event even begins, there is a line on either side of this woman's shoulders. Deep, deep, deep to the back of the room. This room is the size of, like, a football field. And all Lisa did the entire time, and I loved her for it. She was a great guest. Very entertaining. She would put her hair like this and move her head to the left and selfie. Then she would silently move her head to the right like this. Selfie, selfie, selfie. It went on. When it was over, she said to me, that took a lot of energy. And you know what? I'm sure it did. Ariana Maddox, on the other hand. So LVP and Ariana did not speak to each other at all. And I found that interesting. And Ariana, this was her the whole night on her phone, on her phone, texting, Instagramming on her phone, hardly engaging with us at all. She. I think. I think I asked her. So she had. She and LVP had gone on a private tour of the White House that afternoon. And I said, oh, how was it? And it was like, the light goes on, and she's, like, doing a confessional for reality tv. She's like, amazing. That, my friends, was the entire answer. You got a private tour of the White House. You saw the Lincoln Bedroom. You saw things the average American on a tour doesn't see. Amazing. Okay. Initially, I thought she was on her phone because maybe she felt outclassed and unmatched in this room full of very serious people who do a very serious thing for a living. And I'm using quotation marks because I am. I'm winking at you. But then I realized later, no, she thought she was just too good to talk to the rest of us. So she was a total asshole. So flash forward to last year. Our guests at our table, I guess an attempt to sort of maybe replicate that buzz of the LVP era. Jax Taylor and Brittany Cartwright, whose marriage we are now seeing unraveling on the new season of the Valley. It's incredibly dark now. Jax Taylor was again one of my shame crushes. Season one of Vanderpump Rules. Very good looking guy, very charismatic, but he is a guy who is a womanizer. He just admitted to a 20 year coke problem. The Valley is inching up to alleging that he poss. Possibly has abused Britney. These two show up. They're already separated, but they show up after the event. We're all at like the hotel bar, drinking. Jax comes over to me and one of the other Daily Mail women starts talking and I'm like, okay, let's see, like, let's see what's going on upstairs. Like this I should have said to myself, you know, Maureen, this is really a rhetorical question. He's expressing the, like, just utter wonderment that we can turn around news stories quickly. I mean, this is the job. Like, we turn around news stories quickly, like any media outlet worth its salt. And I say to him, well, you know, what you do also requires very quick turnaround and responses to things. And he says, well, what do you mean? Like, we shoot our show and our show already shot, and it's like in the canon. I said, no, what I mean is, as the show airs in real time, you get tons of viewer feedback immediately on Reddit, on viewer threads, on podcasts, on all of these things. And then you guys reply in real time, either on social media. You know, it's a whole ecosystem now. When I said the word ecosystem, I literally said to myself in my head, maureen, this guy does not know what the word ecosystem means. Abort, abort, abort. And I slowly turned my chair around as somebody else approached and began talking to him and exited that conversation. This year, President Trump was not in attendance. There were no real stars there. There were no real stars there. Like, it's kind of over. Like, it's kind of over. I, you know, if you listen to Megyn Kelly's show on Monday, she was recounting my recounting to her of what it was like, which is basically, you're introduced to somebody who is semi important. And the introduction is meant to be like, hey, you guys should like, know each other. Like, it might be helpful down the line the entire experience of talking to anybody at an event like this. Most people, not all, but I'm gonna say 99% of them. You're trying to talk to them as a human being would, and they are looking around anywhere but you. Because there's gotta be somebody more important in this room who they can certainly give their attention to, right? I mean, this happened to me twice. And the second time it happened to me, I literally said to myself, fuck this, I'm out of here. And I left. So I'm going to name a name because he's kind of a sort of a new star in the media world. One Scott Jennings, who over on CNN is sort of like, you know, the media, the left leaning media will take him to the woodshed because he's a conservative offering his thoughts on CNN and the conservative media. He's kind of like a new object of obsession and love because he takes all those hits so hard, but he keeps coming back and he's putting people in their place. Okay, I get introduced to this guy. Fine, perfectly. Hello, how are you? Nice to see you. I run into him again about 10 minutes later and I say to him, scott, and I'm standing right there, completely blanks me. Completely blanks me. Because what does he need me for? Apparently nothing. He's a big hotshot at cnn. His life is on fire. Why speak to the likes of me? That is what this thing is like. And, and I want to use this as a moment to transition into all of the bullshit that we're constantly fed about people who are rich, famous, powerful having a moment. For those of you who've watched White Lotus or Justified or the Righteous Gemstones and are a fan of Walton Goggins, who is carpet bombing the culture right now. Please, sir, please take your leaf. This guy is so in love with himself. He is on the COVID of Cultured Mag. Take a look at it. He's wearing like Banana Boat, like Speedo, shirtless. He's like an unlikely sex symbol, but he's having his time. He just posted something insufferable on Instagram that I saw this morning. He's recording an album. Of course he is. He did a GQ profile, a cover profile in which, you know, with this guy who was considered sort of an actor, there was a no Go zone for him, for anyone who was interviewing him. And that was the death of his first wife, which, you know, only fairly recently did he acknowledge. Yes, that was a suicide. But now we're talking about it. And it reminds me a lot of when Joaquin Phoenix was dying to get that Oscar, dying for it. And, you know, a former no go zone for him was the death of his brother, River Phoenix, which was tragic. A tragic drug overdose on a sidewalk in LA outside Johnny Depp's nightclub, the Viper Room. And Joaquin watched it happen and couldn't save his brother. A true trauma, you know, but you get to a point and then things shift and you can commodify anything. I have two things I'd like to say about Walt Goggins. One, right before the White Lotus premiered, he wrote this gushing post on Instagram to his wife and child saying how he couldn't bear to tear himself away from them for the length of this shoot, which was infamously like six or seven months in Thailand. And you know how they're like basically his other right arm, his limb, his organs, whatever. I read that and I thought to myself, this guy cheated. This guy cheated on set, this guy cheated on location. Now, he and his co star, Amy Lou Wood, who is adorable seeming, did a great performance. They had a sex scene in the second episode that was one of the most intimate, explicit sex scenes I've ever seen. And it actually, I am far from a prude, but it made me uncomfortable watching it. I shouldn't be seeing this. And it made me look at him in a new light. It made me look at Mike White in a new light because. And I just thought to myself, these two are actually having an affair in real life. Because there is no actor on the planet right now, in the wake of me too. And intimacy coordinators who could not go to their director and say, I'm not comfortable with this. I don't wanna do it, I'm not doing it. Figure something out, do a workaround, get a body double. But this was. You could see it was them. It was absolutely them engaged in this most intimate act that if I am Walt Goggins wife, doors are locked, your shit's on the lawn, and I've got the best, sharkiest shark of a lawyer in town. So then they clearly had some kind of falling out because, like, eighth graders, Walt unfollowed her. I'm guessing the wife caught wind of this. And then when Amy Lou was mocked in an SNL parody of the White Lotus called the White POTUS for her teeth for her overbite, which, frankly, I found endearing. And. And I found a breath of fresh air in this world in which everybody who can afford ten grand in plane tickets and doctor fees is flying to Turkey for the worst veneers I've ever seen. Like those bright Chiclets, the teeth that are all like, the same exact size and the same exact volume. It's like, nature doesn't work like that. Like, don't go to Turkey. If you want veneers, save up and go see a specialist in the United States. Okay, so, Walt, we see Amy Lou in the press photos of her paparazzar. She says it's extremely hurtful. It made her cry. And this is the one time I will side with a young actress because teeth are very, very often an indicator of class. If you have bad teeth into adulthood, it means you probably grew up in poverty or with parents who were so distracted with their own stuff that they couldn't attend to you to make sure you had, like, a healthy orthodontic situation going on in your mouth. And this goes beyond, like, you know, looks and superficiality. What goes on in your mouth affects everything that goes on in your body. Okay? An ecosystem, to use a word that Jax Taylor is probably still Googling. So he posts underneath something regarding on Instagram. I forget the exact post. Forgive me, but it was something like somebody like going, oh, that was amazing. The mocking of Amy Lou's overbite. And Walt posts, ha. Capital H, capital A, exclamation points. Classy, sir. Really classy, coming from a guy per his own oft told origin story, grew up dirt poor, who, according to his own origin story, lost the bulk of his upper teeth in some kind of sporting accident. Like, I think he caught a ball to the face. He could only afford dentures. So when he breaks through unjustified, great show. Boyd Crowder, one of the greatest antiheroes of all time. He's got really bad teeth. He still can't afford good teeth. He's basically wearing the equivalent of dentures. It's like an overbite. It's like, obvious they're fake teeth, but they're not good fake teeth. Now, in the wake of the White Lotus or in the run up to the White Lotus, I was looking very closely, and he's had his teeth done again and they look a lot better. They're not perfect, but they look a lot more like they fit his face, like they fit inside his mouth. Is anybody making fun of Walt Goggins teeth? Anyone at all? Because I don't see it happening. Instead, he's being held up as a new sex symbol, and the guy will not exit stage left. I think this guy is a real piece of shit. And you know, sir, you get what you give. And I think karma's gonna come hard for you. I really, really do. Oh, and before I forget, so this guy, again, humble beginnings, finally catches the break of a lifetime in the HBO show every actor would sell an organ to be on. Trust me, this is what's going on in Hollywood right now. Mike White calls, you pick up, and you say, where am I going for how long? If I have to, like, miss a major life event, no prob. So Walt Goggins sits with the New York Times to talk about his favorite things. You guys are going to die, okay? Die. One of my favorite things. Drinking wine by the fireplace. You may have seen this fireplace in the Architectural Digest Instagram reel in which Walt gives a tour of his house in upstate New York. He says this fireplace is 100 years old and the centerpiece of this living room that is hosted Edna St. Vincent Millay. I'm jumping out of this plane right now. My. I've never even heard of this. And trust me, like, I read a lot and I like nice things too, but I've never heard of this. My Bazera BZ10 espresso machine. Okay, whatever. The corner by Lewisburg. Who is this person? I don't know. Okay. A used pair of APC jeans. For those of you who might not know, it's a French label. And in France, they consider APC the equivalent of the Gap, which is such a joke because at the Gap, you can get a pair of good denim jeans for like 30 bucks. At APC, cost of entry for a pair of jeans is like $300. I just can't seem to penetrate. What kind of word is this? Penetrate? Loose fitting jeans in the year 2025. What are you talking about? I don't understand. These APCs are a raw denim pair that they've sold for a very long time. The trick is you never wash them. That is disgusting. Wash your jeans. You go in the ocean with them and they turn into the perfect color. Have you ever tried swimming in denim jeans? You're going to sink to the bottom of the ocean like Virginia Woolf. Okay. Committing suicide. Officine. Again, Another label I've never heard of. And I have a shopping problem. So again, I'm just saying, like, not that I'm the arbiter, but I kind of am off the scene. Creative Loafers That's O f f I C I N E. As one gets older, Walt tells us, you begin to see really who you are and who it is that you want to emulate and how you want to move through the world. I guess that means you like to tease an alleged ex about her most tender, raw soft spot online, kind sir. And I have this image of Gianni Agnelli in my head. Okay? How many people in America really are looking at Gianni? Who even know who Gianni Agnelli is? I love Italy. Now we're off into, like, another. I don't know. I mean, Giano Agnelli was Italian, but whatever. I love Italy. I love that sundowner style with a Campari spritz at five and a little aperture V. Whatever. A black Dior classic suit. One piece of advice that my father gave me is, again, we grew up in real profound poverty. According to him, I would rather have one shirt that costs $250 than five shirts that cost $50. Not everybody has that luxury, okay? People have to go to work. They have to show up in more than one shirt. It's about quality, he tells us, and saving your money and being patient. A cast iron skillet and fryer. I also perfected French fries, he tells us. He's a regular Meghan Markle, who we're going to come to later. I'm going to spare you that recipe. My brass cocktail shaker, Walt. I have a cocktail or a glass of wine every night. Transitioning. Word of the decade. Transitioning from work to my civilian life. That spring summer cocktail is a different kind of joy. For that, you use citrus more often than not. Citrus, by the way, he tells us, has to be shaken, not stirred. Kimberlin Brown jewelry. My wife and I, he tells us, we'll see for how much longer. Buy jewelry sparingly. Things that we feel are classic and transcend style. We came across this woman's jewelry at a shop down in SoHo, which, if you've been to SoHo in New York City recently, it's like Millionaires row, okay? You cannot buy something in SoHo for less than, like, $500. Like a single item, especially jewelry. I became obsessed with it. Each one feels like an heirloom, like something you can pass down to generations to wear. Like a Patek Philippe. Philippe. However you say that. My Super 73 electric bikes last and not least, one of the most enjoyable things in my life is driving down dirt roads in the summer and fall with my son. I grew up riding motorcycles, but I wasn't really Able to introduce that to my son in law. I think his son is like 10. Why is your kid riding motorcycles? Have we all not seen Pax Jolie, son of Angelina and Brad, riding around on like his motorbike? I think he's gotten into three major crashes and the kid doesn't even wear a helmet. Can your son just not ride a bicycle like every other 10 year old in suburbia? No, he's Walt Goggins and son. He's got to be cool. He's got to be on a motorcycle. I thought this was something that we could share together. Walt says and teach him how to ride responsibly. I'll never forget that first day we went out. It was the first fancy word coming. He's smart. He's an actor, but he's smart. It was the first time that he was truly autonomous as a human being. As opposed to what? Household pictures? Pet a plant? He is a human being. You birthed him. You whatever, you sired him. Your wife birthed him. Anyway, that's enough of Walton Goggins. I hope never to revisit this guy again. Okay, next up we are going to talk Maria Shriver's new self help book of poetry and Jack Schlossberg's bold stance on boycotting the Met Gala. I think you might know what my theory about. We will see you in a few. I'm going to tell you a story about a guy named Leo Grillo. A hero really. While on a road trip, Leo came across a Doberman that was severely underweight, clearly in pain and struggling. So Leo rescued that Doberman and named him Delta. You know where this is going. Delta was just one of many animals that needed help, which inspired Leo to start Delta Rescue, the largest no kill, care for life animal sanctuary in the world. They've rescued thousands of dogs, cats and horses from the wilderness and they provide their animals with shelter, love, safety and a home. 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