Is it just a clump of cells, or a baby with human rights? I sat down with pro-life activist Lila Rose for the ULTIMATE abortion debate. When does life begin? What about bodily autonomy? What decides moral worth? It’s deep dive time…

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Do a zygote and a newborn baby have equal worth?

01:06 Lila’s position

03:02 Is a fetus human?

07:44 ‘But if the baby is still in the womb, it doesn’t have rights’

10:23 The ‘clump of cells’ argument

16:00 Debating informed consent

22:32 Children need to be taught about life before birth

24:21 ‘But it doesn’t have a heartbeat yet’

24:48 The burning building dilemma - who would you save?

32:06 Do aborted babies go to heaven?

35:00 Why ‘pro-choice’ isn’t a fair descriptor

35:48 ‘The woman’s right to not be pregnant supersedes the baby’s right to life’

39:53 Elliot, why do you call yourself pro-choice?

51:13 Can you make a pro-life case without God?

54:03 Is it unrealistic to seek an abortion-free society?

56:22 What about r*pe?

57:09 ‘But they won’t feel anything’

1:00:11 ‘But it doesn’t look human’

1:04:03 Abortion is bad for women

1:11:13 Is consent to sex consent to pregnancy?

1:19:52 Should we go back to polygamy?

1:22:05 How would society change if abortion was banned?

1:27:03 Lila’s debate with Justin Waller

1:29:06 Anything we missed?

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In a world saturated by social media and marked by skyrocketing rates of anxiety, depression, and ADHD among Gen Z, young people are growing up in a landscape of chaos and contradiction. While protests swell in city streets and activists hurl soup at famous artworks to demand climate action, a quieter crisis unfolds within - the mental and emotional battles faced by a generation trying to make sense of it all.

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