Why's It So Hard to Get Rid of T-Shirts?

Summary

The Nightly – "Why’s It So Hard to Get Rid of T-Shirts?"

Host: Hatch Podcasts
Date: February 15, 2026
Participants: KP (B), Josh (C), Matt (A)

Main Theme

This cozy late-night episode explores the curious difficulty—and deep sentimentality—behind getting rid of old t-shirts, along with broader conversations about decluttering, self-care, and the sometimes comical personal attachments we keep. Filled with wholesome banter and practical (or not-so-practical) advice from friends and “experts” real and imagined, the hosts invite listeners to reflect on the objects that fill our spaces, the memories attached to them, and how to let go.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Opening Vibes: Fitness and Failed Routines

• Checking In: The group begins with usual friendly banter about well-being and routines.
• Exercise Woes:
  • KP is “fabulous” after starting a gym routine but admits, “Moving my body does unfortunately feel kind of nice. I hate to hear it, I hate to be it, but that’s where I’m at.” (01:06, B)
  • Matt’s half-marathon training goes comically awry: “I dropped my phone which landed on the treadmill and then obviously shot off the back of the treadmill…” leading to a total gym stay of four and a half minutes. (02:08, A)
• Self-Sabotage: If positive efforts go off-track, the pendulum swings: “If the good thing doesn’t work now, you have to go really, really bad to offshoot it.” (02:59, B)
• Ideal Day Offs: Activities range from gossiping, “talking trash with a friend,” (03:46, C) or “self-care Sundays” with green space, a turkey sandwich, and oldies. (04:04, B)

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Sleep Routines & Hatch Device Sounds

• The group jokes about bedtime sounds:
  • KP wakes up to geese noises on the Hatch device, feeling “like a Wisconsin fisherman.” (04:52, B)
  • Matt prefers farm animal noises but admits, “By like the eighth or ninth time you’ve heard a cockerel crow, I’m about ready to kill somebody.” (05:12, A)

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The Cozy World of Gaming

• Nintendo Switch:
  • The Switch is the highest-selling Nintendo console, prompting nostalgia and discussions about “cozy” game experiences—Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Mario Party, and calming solo-games like organizing drawers.
• Games vs. Real Life Organization:
  • KP remarks: “You’d think a person that likes that game, their real-life drawers look good.” (07:59, B)
  • “You’re spending too much time on the virtual drawers.” (08:02, C)

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Decluttering: Tips & Schemes from Article and Life

“The Essex Article”

• Matt introduces an article profiling Angie, Sarah, Susan, and Jenny’s decluttering tips. Most are unrelatable (“I got my daughter-in-law to help”) or vague (“tackle small boxes in a relaxed way”), sparking skepticism: “Everything would be fine if you did it in a relaxed way. But the point is, there’s some things that you physically can’t do in a relaxed way.” (09:26, A)

Sentimentality Limits

• Sarah’s tip: Keep “two boxes of sentimental items,” limiting herself in preparation for moving.
  • “Sarah doesn’t live a sentimental life. We all know that about Sarah.” (10:14, B)
  • The hosts reflect on their own habits:
    • KP has kept “nine little boxes” of ticket stubs, shells, and curious trinkets since college: “If I see a little shell on the beach, that goes in the box.” (10:31-11:01, B)
    • Josh asks: “When you get the new one, you keep the old one too?” (11:01, C)
    • For KP, most of it is comfort-by-possession, rarely revisited but occasionally containing surprises, “like a little plastic fetus…for a project…from college.” (11:35, B)

Why Is It So Hard to Get Rid of T-Shirts?

• Josh: “Especially sentimental ones…they literally, at no point in history, ever fit around my body, but I can’t get rid of it.” (12:20, C)
• Matt: The irrational urge to “get my money’s worth” out of free t-shirts. (12:34, A)
• The thrift store cycle:
  • “You’ll see a shirt that’s like, ‘Michael’s Crazy Bachelor Party 2013, let’s get it loud.’ And I’m like, who’s gonna buy this?” — “I will.” (13:12, A & C)
• T-shirts as mementoes of forgettable events and poor decisions—yet impossible to give up, even when they’re bootlegs or in tatters.

Solutions: Photo Memories & Recycling

• Susan’s photo solution: Photograph sentimental items to free physical space.
  • The group is skeptical. KP: “If anything, my pictures are more cluttered than anything else in my life.” (15:51, B)
• Josh’s digital folder: Keeps a photo folder of himself and his friends—a system that makes him “feel real good.” (16:12, C)
• Social photo anxiety: Matt admits, “I always find it quite awkward…Oh, can you just take a picture?” (16:44, A)
  • Josh counters: “You can! They’re excited. I’m trying to get better about that too.” (16:56, B)
  • A memorable embarrassment: Matt offers a post-show picture, only for the fan to decline: “That has set me back years in terms of self-esteem.” (17:50, A)

Jenny’s “Throw One Thing Away a Day”

• Jenny’s strategy: Commit to throwing away one item daily to build habits of detachment.
• KP references the “reverse countdown” method—start the month by tossing 30 items on the first day, then one fewer each day:
  • “By the end of the month, you’ve gotten rid of so much stuff…Phew. Only one item left.” (19:46, B)
  • Lighthearted cheating: “I should just buy a lot in February so it’s easier in March.” (20:15, B)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Moving my body does unfortunately feel kind of nice. I hate to hear it, I hate to be it, but that's where I'm at." (01:06, B)
• "If the good thing doesn’t work now, you have to go really, really bad to offshoot it." (02:59, B)
• "You’d think a person that likes that game, their real-life drawers look good." (07:59, B)
• "How could I ever lose this cherished T-shirt memory?" (12:40, C)
• "You’ll see a shirt that’s like, ‘Michael’s Crazy Bachelor Party 2013, let’s get it loud.’ And I’m like, who’s gonna buy this?" (13:12, B)
• "If anything, my pictures are more cluttered than anything else in my life." (15:51, B)
• "That has set me back years in terms of self-esteem." (17:50, A)
• "By the end of the month, you’ve gotten rid of so much stuff that you’re like, okay. Phew. Only one item left." (19:46, B)
• "Declutter the Winklevoss’s. This is perfect." (22:03, B)

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Fun Tangents

Winklevoss Twins Goodnight Message

• An anonymous listener wishes “sweet dreams” to the Winklevoss twins, whom she keeps seeing “nightly on that one dating app” (20:39, D), leading to a flurry of questions—“Did they date one person as two guys?” (21:24, C)—and the suggestion that the Winklevosses deserve an entire episode.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:50-02:40 – Gym stories & failed routines
• 03:46-04:21 – Ideal low-key days and wholesome self-care
• 05:28-07:10 – Nintendo Switch & the appeal of cozy games
• 08:14-09:52 – Decluttering article: initial tips and skepticism
• 10:14-11:56 – Sentimental habits: keepsake boxes & what people keep
• 12:13-13:56 – The T-shirt dilemma & thrift shop finds
• 15:31-16:44 – Taking photos instead of saving objects (Susan’s solution)
• 17:05-17:50 – Social photo etiquette and the anxiety of asking
• 18:22-20:05 – Jenny’s “one thing a day” and the reverse countdown method
• 20:39-22:07 – Winklevoss twins listener message & humorous close

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The tone is bright, playful, and candid—filled with relatable self-deprecation, gentle teasing, and a warmth that invites listeners into a safe (and very cluttered) pillow fort. The hosts never lose sight of the deeper quirks behind why we hoard memories in items, especially those impossibly dispensable t-shirts, and offer practical (if slightly tongue-in-cheek) ideas for both letting go and celebrating the silly things we keep.

In sum:
This episode is a hug for anyone who has struggled to part with an old tee or make peace with a sentimental hoard. You’ll laugh, reflect, and maybe eye your closet anew.

Transcript

[A]

Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience. Visit Hatch Co. Enjoy.

[B]

Hi there everybody. Hi, I'm kp.

[C]

Hi, I'm Josh.

[A]

And I'm Matt. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch. A slumber party for pop culture lovers. How are you both?

[B]

Fabulous, if that's okay to say. I mean, is this a safe space to admit that I'm fabulous?

[A]

100%. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Wait, tell us more.

[B]

KP. You're not gonna like it. Nobody likes it. But I guess I'll say I'm fabulous because been waking up on time and going to the gym and it makes you feel better and nobody likes to hear that.

[A]

It's annoying that that works, isn't it?

[B]

It sucks. I mean it's one of the worst, worst news that you can repeatedly get and have to reteach myself is that moving my body does unfortunately feel kind of nice. I hate to hear it, I hate to be it, but that's where I'm at.

[A]

I really tried with that last week because I've to give myself something to aim for. I. I started like a half marathon training program.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Wow. But the last run of the week was like an interval run. And I thought, well, that'll be easier at a gym. Cause you can set the speed of a treadmill. And so I signed up to a gym and I went down there. Went in, in sort of a bad mood anyway. Cause it was early and I had other stuff to do. And then I couldn't get the wifi on my phone so I couldn't listen to any music.

[C]

Oh no.

[A]

And then I was on the treadmill. It was a really old rubbish treadmill. The buttons didn't really work. Got it going and then I dropped my phone which landed on the treadmill and then obviously shot off the back of the treadmill underneath a treadmill behind me.

[C]

Oh no.

[A]

So I had to stop it, get off, pick up my phone, got back on the treadmill and then it wouldn't start again. And so I just went, I can't do this. And then I walked straight out the gym.

[C]

That's the same.

[A]

Yeah. So on the app, my accumulative time spent in the gym. It's about four and a half minutes. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But your heart rate was probably really high from embarrassment. So it is cardio.

[A]

Yeah, it was. Yeah. Same as, same effect as an interval run, but not as great for the mind.

[C]

Whenever I'm trying to do anything good and it goes askew. I get so mad where I'm like, oh, I bought all these vegetables, I'm gonna make a big salad. And it's like, oh, the kale went bad. And then it's just, it's, you know, the kale goes bad and it's chaos. And I'm well, better order three pizzas.

[B]

Yeah. If the good thing doesn't work now, you have to go really, really bad to offshoot it.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah. The pendulum really swings, doesn't it? I think it really. If you're trying to do something good for yourself, if that goes wrong, that spins me out more than anything else for sure. I'm trying to do the right thing here.

[C]

Oh, I'll go on a nice hike into the woods and then you get to the trail and you're like, trail's closed. Well, I guess I'm going to get back in bed and just cover my head with a blanket and stay here for six.

[B]

That's the universe warning you though. You got to take those signs. The universe says you're not supposed to be doing this. This isn't in your nature today.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah. I mean what would be your go to for if you've got a day off and there isn't any pressure to do anything? Let's say you've done the gym or whatever. What, what is your sort of go to for a day off?

[C]

Oh, I like to just gossip and talk trash with a friend. That's like an ideal afternoon activity for me. Just like find a place where you can sit whether it's outside in nice weather or inside somewhere cozy and just like talk about all the people that you both don't like.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

For a while I was doing a bit of a self care Sundays when I could do them, which is like on the map. Pick a plot of green land somewhere, drive there, get a turkey sandwich and listen to oldies. That's really all I need.

[C]

That's really nice.

[A]

That's really wholesome. Yeah.

[C]

I'm also trying to read more to be like, I like doing this. It doesn't feel like pain or work, but I just forget because it's the easiest thing to not do.

[B]

Yeah. It has been nice to. To fall asleep to the words and the dos dorsal doset Doset sounds. What am I talking about?

[C]

The dorsal sounds. That's it.

[B]

Oh, and the dolphin sounds that I always play.

[C]

Does Hatch have dolphin sounds? Cause you go to sleep too. Or you wake up to waterfowl. Right.

[B]

KP I do wake up to the geese noises that are in the hatch machine. That is true. Yeah. There's something about that one. It wakes you up and you feel like you're a Wisconsin fisherman.

[A]

Is it. Or is it the geese sounds or is it. Is that different to just like a farmyard animal one that I was using, for instance.

[B]

I like that one too. Yeah.

[A]

But I let it run for such a long time that by like the. The eighth or ninth time you've heard a cockerel crow. I'm about ready to kill somebody.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. That's what you want.

[A]

How are you two with gaming? Have you ever been into that? Because I was reading the paper earlier. It said that the Nintendo Switch has become. That's the highest ever selling console for Nintendo. So like more than like the N64 or anything like that. And I've never had one before. And I keep thinking maybe that is the hole in my life that's missing. Maybe it's a Nintendo.

[B]

I think you would like it. I had access to one during COVID My roommate had one. And they're just very cozy over at Nintendo. They're like journeys. The Zelda games are very fun. I think you'd have a good time.

[C]

I have one. I got it as a gift and I play it sometimes. I like. Am not always motivated to play video games by myself. But like, I think I could lose. I used to routinely as a young person lose like a day to Mario Kart.

[A]

Yeah, Mario Kart. Mario Party as well. I remember being.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

A really fun game. I think it is about finding other people that are into it as well. That's the main thing, isn't it?

[C]

That's what I'm missing.

[B]

Yeah. Because I don't think the Switch is. So it's not like the most multiplayer of all the devices. It's a lot of solo games.

[C]

Yep. And I think you can do it online with other people. Like, I think you can log in and do it that way.

[B]

But the big one that everybody used the Switch for was Animal Crossing.

[A]

Oh, sure.

[B]

That was like, you know, it really sprung into dulcet infamy. I can't think of words. No, it got really popular because of everyone was making their cute little island with their cute little animals during. During those years.

[A]

Yeah. That was quite a wholesome thing. I remember a lot of people talking about that and I actually thought I could probably get on board with that. But I don't think I could be seen to be getting bought on dorsal, dorsal, dorsal Fin.

[C]

Just dolphin talking. I have some friends that are really into those super cozy games like Stardew Valley. Is that the other one that's very animal crossing like.

[B]

Yeah, there's even cozier, if I may, I mean, I was into for a bit a game where you just kind of organize drawers. You just interesting opening drawers, seeing a bunch of like paper clips and different things out of line. And then you just have to sort of put everything where it's supposed to go. And you'd think a person that likes that game, their real life drawers look good.

[C]

But I was about to ask.

[B]

Not the case.

[C]

No.

[A]

You're spending too much time on the virtual drawers.

[B]

Yeah. Well, there's something easier about a little click. If I could click my actual drawer, I think that might help.

[C]

Somebody's got to invent the actual drawer clicker.

[A]

Yes. Or I. So I did a show near Essex or in Essex earlier this week and I was looking at the paper there and there was an article, this is completely coincidental, about Angie, Sarah, Susan and Jenny, who we all know, talking about their cluttered house.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And there was a whole article about how they uncluttered and basically their tips and tricks for doing it. And I thought that'd be an interesting thing to bring up.

[C]

Yeah. Did they have tips and tricks that you were like, oh, I gotta try this one. I bet this would work.

[A]

Yeah. I wasn't completely sold on a lot of them. I mean, the first one was I got my daughter in law to help, which doesn't help because I don't have a daughter in law.

[B]

Those of us without daughter in laws were lost.

[A]

So that's completely null and void. But another tip Angie shares is her technique of splitting clutter into small boxes, which she tackled one at a time in a relaxed way that would work for me.

[B]

Anything in a relaxed way is gonna work for me.

[C]

I love a relaxed way. That's one of my favorite ways.

[A]

It feels a bit of a cop out, doesn't it? Because everything would be fine if you did it in a relaxed way. But the point is, there's some things that you physically can't do in a relaxed way.

[C]

It's like the inverse, but practically the same as going like, oh, how do I clean? I just take on the job and I do it efficiently.

[A]

You're like, okay, yeah, great, thanks. This is Sarah we're talking about here. As you'll know by the tip, it's a very Sarah thing to do.

[B]

So her. Here she goes.

[C]

Classic Sarah.

[A]

Sorry. If you've already heard this she kept two boxes of sentimental items. So she limited herself to two boxes. She had two months to declutter before moving to a smaller house in Manchester. And Sarah says putting a limit on items from each room helped to just take two boxes.

[B]

Well, Sarah doesn't live a sentimental life. We all know that about Sarah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Called.

[C]

She's calculated.

[A]

She is. Called. Yeah, she is. We all know that about Sarah.

[C]

She's.

[A]

How sentimental are you, you guys?

[C]

Oh, very.

[B]

I have a. I have, like, every four years or so, maybe a little less. I have, like, a little keepsake box, and I refresh it and buy a new box. So I have probably, like, nine little boxes full of ticket stubs, little, like, trinkets I found. I'm kind of crow like, and if I see a little shell on the beach, that goes in the box. So I have, since college, boxes of just little tangible items that I like to hold onto.

[C]

When you get the new one, you keep the old one too?

[B]

Yep. Put the old one with the other old ones. So I have a new one that I just found a nice little cigar box in the thrift store. So that's my current one that I'm filling up.

[C]

It's like a journal of things.

[B]

Yeah. Yep. And a lot of it doesn't make sense. Looking back, like, sometimes maybe once every two years, I'll look back at one of the old ones, and I go, I have no idea what this movie is. I saw this. No clue. But it's nice.

[A]

That was gonna be my next question. Do you ever actually look at the stuff, or is it just knowing that it's in a box somewhere is a kind of comfort.

[B]

I'll go back. And sometimes I do have a memory of, like. Oh, I know that I have that. Like, my friend the other day texted me. He was like, there's no way you have, like, a little plastic fetus. Right. It's for a project I'm doing, which Lord knows what project that was. And I said, you know what? I do. I know that I do. Because in college, Planned Parenthood came to talk to us, and I had it in my box.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So we're talking a wide variety from seashells to plastic fetuses.

[B]

Fetus. Yeah. Anything that is sort of tangible. Well, because I do think so much has gone digital these days that when you get a tangible little item, it's nice to keep it somewhere.

[C]

My big one that I have trouble getting rid of is, like, is T shirts.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Especially sentimental ones where it's like, oh, I Went to this event and they gave me a free shirt, and it literally, at no point in history, ever fit around my body, but I can't get rid of it.

[A]

I don't know whether it's the fact that it was free as well, because I have that same thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Where I weirdly want to get my money's worth out of something that I paid nothing for.

[C]

I have one. I did an event, and they gave me this, like, really bright, fun T shirt, and I have not worn it. And honestly, the event was kind of a mess. And I'm still like, but how could I ever lose this cherished T shirt memory?

[B]

I do like when people donate those shirts to the thrift store because you'll see a shirt that's like, michael's crazy bachelor party 2013, let's get it loud. And I'm like, who's gonna buy this?

[C]

I love that, though.

[B]

Let's be rich.

[A]

Josh is gonna buy that.

[C]

I will.

[A]

And.

[C]

And I'll never get rid of it. I'll be like, how could I forget this bachelor party I've never been to? I bet it got loud.

[B]

And it did got really loud. I think of those. Those just like, poorly screen printed shirts often. And I know that at the time, they meant a lot.

[A]

Yeah, it's good juju.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I remember getting a T shirt from. I went to go and see the stone Roses when they briefly reformed, and I couldn't get a T shirt inside the stadium because the queue was too long. So I got one from one of the, you know, the people that sell T shirts outside.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Sometimes the bootleg. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes they're better.

[A]

Sometimes this, it definitely wasn't. And I look at it now and I just think, why are you keeping that? Like, it's just about hanging on to elements of it. It's kind of like he ne says, Tor 24, there's barely anything left of it, But I just cannot get rid of that.

[C]

I had one that was a gift from a friend that I wore till it had holes in it. And I was like, well, I can't wear this anymore. And I was gonna throw it out. And my wife was like, oh, I think it's cute, and I'll sleep in it. Like, I don't need it for going out. And so she kept this beloved shirt of mine. I was like, now this is a good system. I get ready to throw something, she keeps it and has to figure out where to put it. That's ideal for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then if it gets so small, maybe Your little pug gets to wear it.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that's a little pug shirt.

[B]

They need to come up with a better system for. Because I know for a while people were making the T shirt quilts. I will say those are also hard to keep in the house. I mean, you are also like, now I have a quilt. They got to come up with one more better option for what we can do with sentimental T shirts.

[C]

Because there's only so much you can do with a quilt. Like if you can sleep under it, great. But if it's not quilt weather now you're just like, right Now I have 50 T shirts all sewn together that I have to find a place for.

[A]

Yeah. I'll have it as like a wall hanging or something. Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, I have got a solution. Please, I say I've got a solution. This solution comes from Susan.

[C]

I knew it would.

[A]

She's very practical.

[B]

She's always got the answer.

[A]

Yeah. So Susan found that taking pictures of things was the best way to keep the memory while losing the item. She did this with her ornaments, which she has donated to charity shops and is planning to do the same with her physical photographs. How do you feel about that?

[B]

I just don't necessarily agree with that because I don't find that I do much with my pictures. If anything, my pictures are more cluttered than anything else in my life. I have thousands of pictures that I haven't printed out. So the pictures, I think, is an even more despair place where nothing gets sorted.

[A]

I do agree with that, Ann.

[C]

I will say I've gotten a little better at sorting pictures lately. But specifically, I do my best. I have a file or a folder in my phone for pictures of me with my friends. That's the big one that I always remember to update. Cause I'm always like, ah, you know, something happens. It's like someone's birthday and I'm like, oh, where's my picture with them? And I have like one file that I can just scroll through of just me and friends. And that is really. It makes me feel real good.

[A]

That is a really good idea. I wish I had more pictures of me doing stuff. I always find it quite awkward. You know, I can't say to people like, oh, can you just take a picture?

[B]

You can. They're excited. I'm trying to get better about that too. Because I am like, oh, everybody. Everybody's posting monthly dumps of what they got into. And it looks as if I got into nothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm trying to get a little Better about, like, wait, should we take a picture?

[C]

I'll go like, hey, can we take a picture before we go? And then I'll do a picture with everybody and then I'll text it to everybody all at once like a mom does. And I'm just like, ah, isn't this nice? And the lighting's terrible. It's mostly my arm.

[B]

Yeah, it's really good.

[A]

I had the outsider venue the other month where someone asked for a picture after the show, and then someone else came up to me afterwards and was like, oh, that's great. Really enjoyed it. And I always feel guilty when I walk away from people. I always think, was I nice enough or did I give them enough? And so I said to this person, oh, thanks very much. Do you want a picture? And they went, no. I was like, right, okay.

[B]

So just the compliment.

[A]

Well, that has set me back years in terms of self esteem.

[C]

Guess you didn't have that good a time then.

[A]

Yeah, they enjoyed it. They don't want to remember it.

[B]

Yeah, you should have just been like, well, I would like a picture to remember you. Is that okay? Can I get a picture with you?

[A]

Yeah, I don't want to be in it. Just a picture of you.

[C]

I just want to take a picture of you under the marquee with my name on it.

[A]

Well, time's getting on, so we need to get moving because Jenny has also got a tip. And I don't wanna leave Jenny out.

[C]

Oh, yeah, please.

[B]

Okay. She's my favorite.

[A]

Jenny began her decluttering a few years ago by committing to throw away one thing every day. Some days I did more than one thing. Some went to charity shops, some went in the bin, some went to the tip. She says by practicing this habit every day, she says she was able to train her brain to let go of things more easily.

[B]

This one I really like. People have been doing this, even on a hard level, which is in 30 days, on the 30th day of the month, you have to give away 30 items. 29th day, you have to give away 29 items and so forth and so on. So this is like you're getting rid of, like, you know, multi. Hundreds of things, but you can count, like, thumbtacks as, like 10, you know, like 10 thumbtacks.

[C]

Oh, if you have 10 thumbtacks in a little case, you can give them.

[A]

All like a bag of rice.

[B]

Just get it all done.

[C]

That's my whole year.

[B]

That's the year done. But I do think I want to employ this for March because I know that there's just little. There's tons where I'm like, oh, that's a magnet. And if I lose one of my other magnets, I'll bring that magnet up and I'm like, what?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Pecking order for my magnets.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Too much.

[C]

I can just buy a new magnet. They're $4.

[B]

Totally.

[C]

So it's like one thing, two things, three things, all the way up to 30 or 31.

[B]

Yeah. And they do it reverse because it, like, gets harder as the month goes on. So it's like the first day you give away 30 items.

[C]

Got it.

[B]

And so this would be like, okay, an old spoon. I'm not using, you know, these shorts that don't fit me. 30 items, and then by the end of the month, you've gotten rid of so much stuff that you're like, okay. Phew. Only one item left.

[C]

Oh, that's nice.

[B]

Yeah. So it's a reverse countdown, and I've been seeing people do it, and it's quite inspiring.

[A]

Cool. I bet you do end up just finding stuff, don't you? Because if I think about it, I couldn't think of 30 things that I've got, let alone give away. I can't think of 30 things that I have.

[B]

Yeah, I should just buy a lot in February so it's easier in March. That's the way to trick it. Well, Matt and Josh, now that we've decluttered our entire lives, I'm getting pretty sleepy. I think I'm going to turn in. But before I do, we received a little cute good night message from an anonymous listener. You guys want to hear it?

[C]

I would love to.

[D]

Hello and good evening. My name is a secret, but this evening, I would like to leave a very special good night for the Winklevoss twins. The Winklevoss twins are two men that I would say I see nightly on that one dating app. And right now, I'm really appreciating that consistency in my life. So for that, I want to say thank you and I want to say goodnight, and I want to say sweet dreams. Vankle Voss twins.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Okay. I wish we had played this in the beginning because I could talk about this for 20 seconds.

[C]

I also could. Does she see them together on dating apps?

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[C]

Did they date one person as two guys?

[A]

I've actually got a genuine Ven Death rat against the Winklevoss twins as well. We haven't got time to go into it now, but. Yeah, another time.

[C]

We need to do a whole episode on them in the future.

[B]

Yeah. Wow.

[C]

I'M just gonna, like, close my eyes, think about all my questions for this listener that maybe we'll never even get to ask her, and just, like, drift off to sleep. Counting Winklevoss twins.

[B]

One, two. That's them.

[A]

I'm gonna throw one away every day.

[B]

Declutter the Winklevoss's this is perfect.

[C]

A perfect ending to tonight's conversation. And I'm. I'm truly ready to go to bed. So good night, KP and Matt.

[B]

Good night, Matt and Josh.

[A]

Good night, KP and Josh.

[B]

Good.

[A]

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