Lalit Choda (#mrnhi), founder of the ⁠ @NHIMgmtGroup launches the Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast - By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated Content.#mrnhi hosts the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity. In Episode 5, Martin Sandren, IAM Product Lead at Ikea, joins Mr NHI to explore a core question in modern identity security: AI for IAM or IAM for AI?, discussing how AI is reshaping identity management, why organisations must govern AI agents and NHIs, and what steps teams should take now to prepare their IAM infrastructure for the rise of agentic AI.

- Connect with Lalit on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalit-choda-5b924120/⁠⁠⁠

- Connect with Martin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinsandren/

- Visit ⁠⁠⁠nhimg.org⁠ for the most comprehensive knowledge centre on NHIs, including Agentic AI and visit our ⁠nhi-training.org⁠ to learn more about our accredited NHI Foundation Level course.

Key Moments

Mr NHIs - Human Identity In The Hot Seat (4:15–9:40)
How Organisations Are Currently Tackling NHI Risks (10:21–13:22)
How Organisations Are Using AI and Agentic AI in Practice Today (12:22–16:42)
AI for IAM or IAM for AI? (17:14–19:35)
Where AI Can Transform IAM Processes (19:51–21:18)
AI’s Role in Solving JML Problems and Complications (21:19–23:17)
Can AI Improve and Bring RBAC Back? (23:18–24:17)
How AI Is Helping to Tackle NHI Challenges and Risks (24:21–30:00)
Where Does IAM Need to Evolve? (28:13–30:44)
Advice for Organisations (30:45–35:32)
What Are the Biggest Identity Security Gaps Today, Especially With AI? (35:47–39:11)
Do We Have Suitable Solutions to Govern AI End-to-End? (40:00–41:02)
What’s the One Thing That Keeps You Up at Night From an Agentic AI Standpoint? (44:07–46:04)
Closing Thoughts and Advice for the Audience (46:14–46:56)

Keywords

NHI Mgmt Group, Lalit Choda, Mr NHI, Non-Human Identity, NHI, AI, Cybersecurity, Agentic AI, AI Agents, IAM, Machine Identity, Identity Security, Workload Identity, GenAI, Autonomous Agents,