The Official Yellowstone Podcast: Episode with Gil Birmingham – A Deep Dive into Chief Thomas Rainwater

Release Date: February 20, 2025

Introduction

In Episode 5 of The Official Yellowstone Podcast, host Bobby Bones engages in an insightful conversation with Gil Birmingham, the talented actor behind Chief Thomas Rainwater on Paramount Network's hit series Yellowstone. This episode delves into Gil's multifaceted career, his portrayal of Rainwater, and the personal experiences that shape his performances. Whether you're a die-hard Yellowstone fan or new to the series, this episode offers a comprehensive look into one of the show's most compelling characters.

Guest Background: Gil Birmingham

Gil Birmingham is renowned for his versatile acting skills, having appeared in several of Taylor Sheridan's acclaimed projects, including Hell or High Water and Wind River. Initially trained as a petrochemical engineer, Gil's journey into acting was unconventional, marked by his transition from engineering to bodybuilding, and ultimately, to the performing arts.

“I had no concept of what his storyline was, but we were filming Hell or High Water, and he told me, I've got this character for this series that I'm developing, that I cast you as.” [05:47]

Character Discussion: Chief Thomas Rainwater

Chief Rainwater is a complex character who oscillates between antagonist and protagonist, embodying both admirable and contentious traits. Gil discusses his approach to portraying Rainwater, emphasizing the importance of understanding the character's motivations and objectives.

“My approach to character development is always to come from the heart and from the intention of the agenda that character has.” [04:09]

Gil highlights that Rainwater's actions are driven by a genuine desire to preserve his land and heritage, positioning him as a character who believes in his righteous cause, much like the Duttons, albeit from a different perspective.

“We want the same things but for different reasons, and that was the preservation of the land. I think that was the highest integrity of character for both of them.” [07:24]

Gil's Career Path: From Engineering to Acting

Gil's transition from a petrochemical engineer to an actor was fueled by his passion for creativity and self-expression. Despite his technical background, he found solace and identity in the arts, particularly through music and bodybuilding, which eventually led him to acting.

“I was an engineer, then I kind of got into acting and there's some bodybuilding in there. You’re gonna hear about all this.” [01:40]

His decision to pursue acting was marked by financial prudence, saving money from his engineering career to support his artistic endeavors while living modestly to sustain himself during the initial years.

“I've always lived like I'm in a college dorm, so I didn't have big overhead expenses.” [10:53]

Acting in Yellowstone: Collaborating with Taylor Sheridan

Gil reflects on his collaboration with Taylor Sheridan, praising Sheridan's ability to create richly layered characters and intricate storylines. Their professional relationship began in 2016, and Gil has since been a consistent presence in Sheridan's projects.

“I have an appreciation of understanding in my own mind the nature of what it takes to be where he is and knowing a bit of history about where he came from.” [15:12]

He shares insights into the creative process, particularly the unique approach taken in the latest season where scripts were redacted to maintain secrecy around plot developments. This method allowed Gil greater flexibility in portraying Rainwater without prior knowledge of other characters' arcs.

“The last season was really odd because they were all redacted scripts. They were really keeping it undercover.” [16:16]

Personal Insights: Life and Philosophy

Beyond acting, Gil delves into his personal philosophies and influences, notably his admiration for Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. This book has significantly impacted his consciousness and daily outlook, emphasizing the importance of living in the present moment.

“Eckhart Tolle talked about being present and there's really nothing else that exists besides that.” [10:57]

He also draws parallels between his own life experiences and those of his character, particularly regarding cultural identity and personal discovery.

“I had shared my life with Taylor to some extent and then I read the script and the characters for purposes of protection. My parents didn't really let us know we were even native, you know, until I was like 14.” [14:07]

Music and Hobbies: A Lifelong Passion

Gil's passion for music remains a significant aspect of his life. A skilled guitarist influenced by legends like Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan, he discusses how music served as both a creative outlet and a pathway to his acting career.

“It really was the entry into my acting profession because I got scouted in the gym, did a couple of works on a music video, had a great time.” [08:27]

Despite his busy schedule, Gil acknowledges the importance of maintaining his musical talents and the joy it brings him, even if he hasn't been able to play as frequently as he'd like.

“I always feel bad thinking about having a talent that I'm exercising more regularly. So I haven't really been playing outside of.” [24:08]

Advice and Recommendations: Embracing Creativity

Gil offers valuable insights into pursuing one's passions, emphasizing the necessity of self-belief and the courage to take risks. He reflects on his own journey from engineering to the arts as a testament to following one's true calling despite uncertainties.

“You can actually be really good at something and not have that confidence yourself. Everybody else around you can see it, but it hasn't embedded itself in you for you to step out and actually take the risk of exploring exactly what your potential is.” [27:26]

When asked about current favorite shows, Gil recommends Taylor Sheridan's latest works, showcasing his continued support and enthusiasm for Sheridan's unique storytelling.

“I love all of Taylor's shows. They're so unique, and it's incredibly amazing how he can create a world all separate from one another.” [27:47]

Conclusion

This episode of The Official Yellowstone Podcast provides an in-depth look into Gil Birmingham's life, his portrayal of Chief Thomas Rainwater, and the intricate balance between his personal experiences and professional artistry. Through candid discussions and thoughtful insights, listeners gain a richer understanding of the man behind one of Yellowstone's most intriguing characters. Gil's journey from engineering to acting, his dedication to his craft, and his philosophical outlook offer inspiration to aspiring artists and fans alike.

“It was a real pleasure to meet you and chat with you as well. You're a great little interviewer there, Bobby.” [28:45]

Notable Quotes

• “My approach to character development is always to come from the heart and from the intention of the agenda that character has.” – Gil Birmingham [04:09]

• “We want the same things but for different reasons, and that was the preservation of the land. I think that was the highest integrity of character for both of them.” – Gil Birmingham [07:24]

• “Eckhart Tolle talked about being present and there's really nothing else that exists besides that.” – Gil Birmingham [10:57]

• “You can actually be really good at something and not have that confidence yourself. Everybody else around you can see it, but it hasn't embedded itself in you for you to step out and actually take the risk of exploring exactly what your potential is.” – Gil Birmingham [27:26]

Connect with Gil Birmingham

• Instagram: @GilBirmingham
• Social Media: Follow Gil for updates on his projects and personal insights.

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