Episode 861, “The Blood Aisle” (with Mike Patten)

Summary

One Piece Podcast – Episode 861: “The Blood Aisle”

Date: March 24, 2025
Host: Zach and the OPP Crew
Special Guests: Stephen Paul (official One Piece translator), Mike Patton (storyboard artist & author)

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Overview

This episode of The One Piece Podcast features a lively panel, including special guest Mike Patton, and the return of translator Stephen Paul. The crew discusses One Piece Chapter 1143 “Holy Knights”, breaks down the latest One Piece news, debates the mysteries of Elbaf, discusses cultural references and translation notes, and field listener questions in the Piece Together segment. The discussion is peppered with humor, personal updates, and deep One Piece lore analysis.

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Episode Highlights

1. Host & Guest Introductions [01:31–05:20]

• The usual crew (Zach, Ed, Steve, Alex) and frequent guest Stephen Paul are joined by Mike Patton (animation supervisor, author).

• Mike plugs his upcoming “really good post” on BlueSky, inviting listeners to a comically hyped internet event.

  "If you’re listening to the podcast, I’m going to give you one second to go grab a pad of paper and a pen... On Thursday, March 27th at 8pm Eastern Time, go to BlueSky... I’m gonna be making a really good post and you’re not gonna want to miss it."
  – Mike Patton [03:28]

• Alex shares that he’s imminently expecting his first child – this may be his last episode for a while.

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2. One Piece News Recap [08:22–17:20]

Sports Crossovers

• Borussia Dortmund (BVB) × One Piece collaboration set for March 30.
• One Piece nights at Seattle Mariners (April 8), Boston Red Sox (May), Lakers, Fenway Park with exclusive swag.

Anime & Manga Updates

• One Piece anime returns April 6 for the Egghead arc (with an 83-minute recap special on April 5).

  • New opening: “Angel and Devil” by Green Boys (discussion on opening themes).

• Gag manga “One Piece In Love” getting vertical anime shorts on social (YouTube, TikTok).

• English Dub news: New cast additions including Amanda Gale (Matto), Neil Kaplan (Figarlin Garling), and others.

  "Didn’t they have a bobblehead?... The bobblehead looked a little wonky, if I recall."
  – Zach [11:02]

• The team has rambling jokes about anime sports nights, with Zach advocating for more “marine” themed promotions for MLB teams.

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3. Manga Recap: Ch. 1143 “Holy Knights” [18:38–67:19]

a. Cover & Color Spread Discussion [18:59–26:19]

• Cover art features Luffy, Zoro, and Loki (“Lorky”) with characteristically wacky faces; color spread depicts the Straw Hats in a flying fish water race, echoing Sonic R and referencing Oda’s aversion to drawing cars.

  "I like the racing with flying fish over water. That’s, I think, very clever."
  – Zach [26:14]

  "It’s like Sonic R, where all the characters are running except for Amy Rose, who has to drive a car."
  – Steve [23:08]

b. Main Plot Breakdown

[26:49–51:05]

• Elbaf’s Chaos: Giants’ children are sleepwalking toward danger under the manipulation of the Holy Knights’ powers. The comedic firefighting team fails to save the day, reinforcing Elbaf’s culture and scale.

• Holy Knights Table Scene: The three Holy Knights – St. Sommers, St. Killingham, St. Gunko – are nonchalantly eating and monologuing while manipulating the chaos.

  "There’s real emotion in killing."
  – St. Sommers [41:10]

• Abilities Revealed:

  • St. Sommers: Thorn-Thorn Fruit (Iba Iba no Mi) – “Thorn Man” [41:31]
  • St. Killingham: Mythical Zoan, Kirin – “Dream Manifesting Man” [43:01]
    • Discussion about KIRIN references, beer ads, and whether dream manipulation fits folklore.
  • St. Gunko: Mysterious, stoic, but begins to show a reaction to “dream food”.

• Wordplay/Translation Corner:

  • Killingham’s monsters are called “sleepdids” (from Japanese “Muma” = “dream cryptid”).
  • Salt as comedic motif: Killingham brings salt out of Sommers’ dream as a table condiment.
  • “Baby game for babies” as translation for “nudoku-ge” (too easy of a game).

    "That was my version of that: Baby Game for Babies."
    – Stephen Paul [104:07]

c. Loki vs. Hyrudin Confrontation [52:13–66:40]

• Loki threatens the Sun Village; Luffy and co. intervene. Loki is revealed to be bluffing and collapses, gravely wounded.

• Hyrudin and Loki’s tragic backstory hinted:

  • Flashback to their father King Harold wanting his sons to rule Elbaf together.
  • Loki taunts Hyrudin about “tainted blood” – clear classism/racism themes.
  • The truth of King Harold’s murder is questioned – did Loki really do it?

  "They all say I went and killed dad with pure murder in my heart. But you don’t believe that, do you?"
  – Loki [66:47]

4. Discussion & Analysis [67:29–91:49]

• Arc Pacing: General agreement that Oda is wisely moving the plot at a brisk pace, with effective drama and fun new villains.
• Holy Knights: Universally liked for their quirkiness and layered personalities—compared to “classic” eccentric One Piece villains (like Mr. 3, Bon Clay).
• Elbaf Lore & Themes: The crew speculate on Loki’s power, the racial divisions among the giants, and potential cyclopean origins.
• Art & Translation Notes:
  • Loki’s bandaged eyes prompt rampant theorycrafting.
  • Oda’s penchant for wordplay, cultural references, and evolution of character scale is praised.

5. Piece Together: Q&A & Fan Theories [95:54–123:19]

• Salt/Translation Corner: Steven explains Japanese gamer slang and the translation of certain phrases and puns.
• Loki’s Bandaged Eyes: Speculation on observation Haki, cyclops lineage, or hidden devil fruit ability.
• Elbaf’s Tree Scale: Debates about the size of Elbaf’s World Tree and whether it protrudes into space.
• Holy Knights’ Threat Level: Discussion on whether their powers must match the Straw Hats’ in strength, or if thematic menace suffices.

6. Community, Humor, and Personal Updates [124:50–End]

• Highlights from listeners include questions about food in Elbaf, harems in anime, and deep fandom references.
• The team riff on Canada, blood bags, sports mascots, and the possible return of “giant Nami.”
• Alex prepares for baby hiatus; Zach reflects on parent-child connections.
• Credits and plugs: Mike hypes his music video and BlueSky activities; Steve promotes trivia appearances.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike’s BlueSky Plug: “Come along. Yeah, yeah. Bring your friends... at 8:00pm Eastern time, I’m gonna be making a really good post and you’re not gonna want to miss it.” [03:28]
• Elbaf Parenting:
  “If you disappear in the middle, just assume [Alex] has a new baby now.” – Zach [05:35]
• On the Holy Knights’ Villainy:
  “It shows that evil people can also be doofuses.” – Zach [51:05]
• On Oda’s Humor:
  “This is very Mr. 3 having tea with Mr. 5.” – Alex [50:50]
• Cultural/Translation Insight:
  “Salt is more like harsh in Japanese… I want to say Oda did a joke with salt about Sicilian in Zo, when he was introduced.” – Stephen Paul [91:49]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:31] – Episode intro and host greetings
• [03:28] – Mike Patton’s ‘really good post’ BlueSky promo
• [05:30] – Alex’s baby announcement
• [08:22] – News: sports collabs, anime, dub
• [18:38] – Manga recap: Cover & color spread
• [26:49] – Chapter plot begins: Giants, sleepwalking children, firefighting farce
• [36:32] – Firefighters vs. Dream monster (skull giant)
• [40:16] – Holy Knights table scene: Powers explained, translation notes
• [52:13] – Loki vs. Hyrudin; bluff and collapse
• [66:41] – Loki and Hyrudin’s flashback
• [67:29] – Roundtable: Chapter analysis & broader themes
• [95:54] – Piece Together: Q&A, fan theories, translation notes
• [124:50] – Outro, plugs, closing banter

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Summary/TL;DR

This episode offers an engrossing, witty, and detail-rich exploration of both the latest One Piece manga chapter and the community’s theories and reactions. The OPP team’s dynamic is in classic form, balancing in-depth lore speculation (Elbaf, Holy Knights, race relations among giants), translation and cultural insight (thanks to Stephen), and the warmly chaotic energy of a crew that’s followed One Piece for over a decade. Listeners are treated to cultural tidbits, wordplay breakdowns, and anticipation for upcoming show and manga events. Mike Patton’s BlueSky promo is a running joke. As always, One Piece’s weirdest moments become fodder for the panel’s greatest discussions.

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For in-depth analysis, character studies, translation discussion, and plenty of off-the-cuff humor, Episode 861 is a must-listen for any dedicated One Piece fan.

Transcript

[Zach]

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[Steve]

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[Zach]

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[Alex]

It's time to streamline with WhatsApp, the secure messaging app that brings the whole group together. Use polls to settle dinner plans, send.

[Zach]

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[Stephen Paul]

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[Alex]

All protected with end to end encryption. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Learn [e-mail].

[Zach]

This is the One Piece podcast episode 861 for the week of Monday, March 24th, 2025. My name is Zach.

[Ed]

My name is Ed.

[Steve]

My name is Steve.

[Alex]

And my name is Alex.

[Zach]

And on today's show we have very special guest. He is the translator for One piece in weekly, Shonen, Jump and Manga Plus. His name is Stephen Paul. How's it going, Stephen?

[Stephen Paul]

Going good, Going good. I think for the first time in like a month or so I do feel like. Okay, I'm completely recovered from whatever cold I had. So, yeah, feeling, feeling good finally. And I'm really excited about this week because there's, there's some fun stuff to go through in this, this chapter. So I'm looking forward to sharing some behind the scenes stuff.

[Zach]

Yeah. Alex, you doing okay?

[Alex]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Zach]

Did Steven pass it along to you?

[Alex]

No, he didn't. I'm sick people. But don't worry, I won't. It's non communicable through sound waves.

[Stephen Paul]

Why not? I don't know, but that would be fucked up.

[Zach]

I know. Oh, there it is. There it is.

[Alex]

Soundwave Superior megabyte.

[Steve]

Right now, the. Yes, the only thing contagious through podcasts is male loneliness.

[Stephen Paul]

Jesus Christ.

[Mike Patton]

Good Lord, man.

[Zach]

All of us here, you might also hear that voice. That is our special guest today. Not suffering from that Mike Patton. Oh, wait, I have a whole introduction for Mike Patton.

[Mike Patton]

You completely skipped.

[Zach]

No, I'm gonna not skip it. I'm not gonna skip it because he's the storyboard artist and animation supervisor for Reset and the author of quote, the really good post unquote, coming out March 27th at 8pm Eastern on Blue Sky. Right, Mike? Pat.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, that's that's exactly right. Thank you for having me.

[Steve]

It's nice to tell us more about this post that's coming up on.

[Mike Patton]

Yes. Steve, I'm so happy that you asked. If you're listening to the podcast, I'm going to give you one second to go grab a pad of paper and a pen. So pause your podcast right now. Go grab it. Okay. You're back on Thursday, March 27th at 8pm Eastern Time. Go to Blue sky, find my account, patent [e-mail] I don't know how the.

[Steve]

Dot social BSky app.

[Mike Patton]

Thank you. You're gonna go there and at 8:00pm Eastern time, I'm gonna be making a really good post and you're not gonna want to miss it. In fact, I advise you to pop on at maybe 7:50. I'm going to go and get the ball rolling then so we can all welcome it in together. But eight o', clock, we have a really good post coming.

[Zach]

Is there going to be like a ball dropping and like a confetti?

[Alex]

Yeah. Balls dropping.

[Zach]

Like New York. Like New Year's Eve.

[Alex]

Like, are we going to see your hog? Is that what.

[Mike Patton]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, look, here's the thing. You got to be there to find out so I can't confirm or deny anything that's going to happen.

[Alex]

Mike, would you say come aboard and find out?

[Mike Patton]

Come along. Yeah, yeah. Bring your friends.

[Zach]

A four kids thing. Which, by the way. No.

[Steve]

The four kids open.

[Zach]

No. Okay.

[Alex]

Come on board and find out.

[Zach]

Also, this is.

[Steve]

Oh, that is.

[Zach]

Yes, it was. I was right. Yeah, I actually was right about a reference. Steve, I thought you were doing English.

[Steve]

We are.

[Alex]

No, no, no, I'm not.

[Zach]

No, I wasn't doing that.

[Steve]

Come aboard.

[Alex]

Come.

[Zach]

Going to leave that. This is also a special podcast because this is probably going to be the last time for many months that all four hosts, plus Stephen, of course, are in the same episode. Because Alex, we've mentioned this, I think like one or two times on the show, but do you want to let the world know what's going on?

[Alex]

Yeah. Having a baby in like soon could.

[Zach]

Happen at any second.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Steve]

How soon?

[Zach]

Congrats. If he disappears in the middle, just assume he has a new baby now.

[Alex]

Yeah, yeah. If you go to Mr. Rental and you get the videotape of the birth of Alex's child, you'll have to fast forward to soon. Within a week.

[Zach]

Oh, wow. It's my birthday baby. Like specifically for me.

[Alex]

He may be born on your birthday, Zach.

[Zach]

Maybe.

[Alex]

I hope he is Because I think that your birthday is a good birthday to have.

[Zach]

It's extremely memorable.

[Ed]

Usopp birthday.

[Zach]

It's an Usopp birthday. You get the same jokes. It's the. Oh, you're an April fool. Huh? Oh, it's April 2nd.

[Ed]

It reminds me of a meme I saw recently about Mihawk where it was a meme of Kuma saying, I curse fatherhood upon you. And like, do you think that Kuma said Perona and Zorro to Mihawk just to fuck with him?

[Zach]

Yes. That's actually a good point. I like, we should devote a segment to. It's the point.

[Steve]

He finally got his bachelor pad in.

[Ed]

The monkey kingdom with his weird toilet room.

[Zach]

Toilet room?

[Ed]

Yeah, the big.

[Mike Patton]

You don't have it. Yeah, it's a bathroom.

[Ed]

The big. The big empty. Big empty room with a rug and.

[Alex]

A toilet, like in the middle. Yeah, Yeah.

[Mike Patton]

I don't like the idea of a bathroom having carpet.

[Zach]

Correct. No, that's correct. Yeah.

[Alex]

I mean, his carpet. It could be mold. Fuzzy mold.

[Zach]

Okay. Okay, Steve, what were you going to ask Alex?

[Steve]

I was saying, Alex, if your child is born on April 2, you know, they share that with Josh, but a good friend Josh. But keep in mind, then I think Josh, like shows up at your house and takes the baby away. Like. Like Pharaoh. Like Janos. Ghostbusters too.

[Alex]

Like Janosz. Ah, yes. Peter McNichol.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Start of the Day the Earth Blew up now in theaters.

[Zach]

Isn't that also what that German Santa Claus ish thing Krampus does? What's it called? Krampus.

[Steve]

Krampus. No, Krampus just whips them. He whips unruly children.

[Alex]

Oh, and sends them back to hell.

[Zach]

Hey, we're going to talk. This is very relevant for this week's Chapter 11. 43 Holy Nights, I believe is the title. So we're going to get to that soon.

[Steve]

Great segue me.

[Stephen Paul]

Damn.

[Mike Patton]

Did you just say Alex, if your baby is born on Thursday, March 27 at 8pm they'll share it with the real.

[Alex]

No, no, seriously, Mike, if that happens, you will be the first to know that my child.

[Mike Patton]

You definitely.

[Zach]

And the post will be. Alex's child is just born.

[Mike Patton]

Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves. But that. That would also be a good post.

[Zach]

So wait, if the. You know what? Let's just move on.

[Mike Patton]

Save all questions about the really good post until the end, please. Thank you.

[Zach]

Until after the post. So let's. Let's do one piece news. We have a lot of it. I'm going to Start with the most. Let's start with the most important and then go to the least important. Most important. The BVB collaboration with Borussia Dortmund set for March 30th. This is just because I have no connection with any of the words I'm saying right now.

[Ed]

Yeah, they were, I think they were champions of the German league semi recently within the last and I know they've had.

[Zach]

I know they have a lot of one piece fans in their club. Yes.

[Ed]

They also have I think the largest stadium in Germany.

[Zach]

Oh, you know, I forgot to preface this. This is the sports news segment. How are the Knicks doing, Mike?

[Mike Patton]

Man, you are asking me like they're.

[Ed]

Want to know when Tracy Morgan throws up on the. On the court.

[Zach]

Exactly.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah. Tracy Morgan got food poisoning at the game recently. Threw up, had to be wheeled out. It was very.

[Ed]

Apparently he boofed so hard he gave himself a nosebleed.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's right.

[Mike Patton]

It was very rough to watch. What did he eat though?

[Alex]

I don't, I don't gotta tell the people to avoid some foods at.

[Steve]

Is there full. There's full footage of Tracy Morgan throwing up.

[Ed]

Him being wheeled out with a. Holding a note, a towel to his face.

[Mike Patton]

We, we can laugh because he, he's okay but like yeah, it was like.

[Steve]

He gave the thumbs up.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, well he, he posted from the hospital like saying that they found out it was food poisoning. But then he also said that the Knicks are now want to know when I puke on the court. So he has to puke again during the finals, during the playoffs.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Knicks are invading everything.

[Ed]

Which is such a Tracy thing to say. Like it's a good, it's a good joke for Tracy Morgan to say. But Tracy Jordan would say that. Seriously?

[Zach]

Yeah, sure. Also in sports news since I don't know, it was my fault actually that we got onto the Knicks.

[Steve]

We.

[Zach]

There's also a pretty big deal if you live in Seattle.

[Stephen Paul]

The.

[Zach]

There's going to be a one piece night there. The Seattle Mariners versus the Houston Astros on April 8th at the T Mobile Park. You could get an exclusive one piece Mariners tea. I feel like they could have done a big marine thing.

[Ed]

There's actually a. There's they're doing one piece night at the Red Sox game in May, I heard.

[Zach]

Yes, that too. And we just did the one with the Lakers. How long ago was that? A couple of weeks, A month.

[Ed]

The one at Fenway park has like a one piece straw hat themed Red Sox jersey that you can get.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steve]

Didn't they Have a bobblehead. Was that. Was that the Red Sox?

[Ed]

That was last fall, I think.

[Zach]

Yeah. The bobblehead looked a little wonky, if I recall. Correct. Yeah.

[Steve]

I mean it's free bobblehead day at the.

[Zach]

So that's the sports news section in one piece. Regular nerdy news that we all enjoy. The one piece anime is coming back on April 6th. I believe it's that first Sunday. Going to do an 83 minute egghead recap the day before on Saturday, April 5th. You know, if I read this, I would have been sure it was April 6th, so. And they're going to.

[Ed]

Hopefully Sam will be back to recap the new episodes for us.

[Zach]

Yeah, I don't think Sam left, so I hope he is around. We just been hiding him in a corner this whole time, but he's around. That's very cool. It's going to be available on Crunchyroll and on Netflix.

[Steve]

The recap.

[Zach]

The recap episode, I think on April 12th is when that's going to be available. I assume the episode will be simulcast as usual. The new one, which by the way includes a new opening all about Dan Brown's angel and devil. Oh, wait. Demons. Anyway, that angel and Devil is the new thing by.

[Stephen Paul]

How do you say this group's name?

[Zach]

Zach Green Boys can't do the Z.

[Stephen Paul]

I didn't hear a four in there.

[Zach]

Yeah, you know enough.

[Steve]

I'll be. I'll be an old curmudgeon. I'm like this song.

[Ed]

Maybe Tom Hanks is in the opening.

[Alex]

There's a. There's like a preview for the song in. Yeah, in the little TV spot. It sounds really fine. It's not us.

[Zach]

That which nothing's us.

[Steve]

And it's not the song us either. So.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Both are true.

[Steve]

Both are true.

[Zach]

Yeah. No, that open us. I. We should probably do when we're bored. One. One week. Another opening ranking. Because I am like curious.

[Steve]

Four and a half hours long.

[Zach]

They always are.

[Alex]

Just for that. I'll have baby. I'll just have a baby.

[Zach]

A baby on you. Yeah. I mean, so will I. We'll all have babies and be discussing one piece openings.

[Steve]

I have to go. I'll have to go find one.

[Zach]

Yeah. He's apparently stealing them. Slander. I heard. I could already hear him saying that. But yeah. The new opening starts with the part two of Egghead. They didn't show a lot of new stuff in that teaser trailer. But it is a teaser trailer.

[Steve]

I mean I thought that's all from. No, that's all like new footage that's the new episode.

[Zach]

No, there was some from the older episode. I thought the Lucci stuff happened already. Right. Because didn't they show some of the Luchi, Zorro, Luffy, that whole fight? Or I might be wrong.

[Steve]

Not new to me.

[Zach]

No. Thank you, Steven. More news on that same day, the gag manga One Piece In Love is getting vertical anime shorts, which I think mean built for YouTube, TikTok, Instagram for the five days leading up to the premiere.

[Ed]

Ah, yes, Product integration.

[Zach]

Yes, I believe that's the second concern. And yeah, so I have. I've never read One Piece in Love, Stephen, I feel like you're the only one who could have.

[Stephen Paul]

No, I, I, I don't read any of the. Of the spin offs. And yeah, unless they get assigned to me.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're not gonna beat the spin offs from the most recent One Piece magazine, I feel like, too, because I gushed a lot about those. You could listen to that episode. Yes. And last but not least, the English dubcast has a whole ton of announcements where I'm gonna leave for Steve and Alex to respond. Once I go through them, we have Amanda Gale as Matto. Which one is Mato again? That I really don't.

[Stephen Paul]

Mato is the. The giant Makino. She's the barley.

[Zach]

Oh, the barkeep. Yeah. Oh, and who's Gombo? Because that is Dylan Mobley. That one I can't remember either.

[Stephen Paul]

That's the, that's the. Oh, God. He's one of the backup revolutionary. It's, you know.

[Steve]

Oh, the cow.

[Zach]

The cow one.

[Stephen Paul]

No, that's Usiano.

[Zach]

Oh, you're right. Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Gambo is the one that looks like Humpty Dumpty.

[Zach]

I think Usiano is going to be played by Rudy Lopez. Chula King is going to be Colin or Colon.

[Ed]

Humpty Numpty.

[Zach]

Sorry, canceling. Jeremy Inman is Avaro Pizarro. Is that new, though, that I did. Jeremy.

[Alex]

I thought he already had a voice.

[Zach]

Me too. This is from Adil, by the way. So I'm just reading. I'm like Ron Burgundy. You just put it in front of me. Mallory Rodock Kujaku. Alex Holm as a young Garp. And Neil Kaplan as Figarlin Girling, which I believe was the big wave that came out of that. Cool. Any reactions, Steve, specifically?

[Steve]

I got to catch up. I think I'm still working my way through the previous batch that came out a month or so ago, but very excited.

[Ed]

A couple of those names seem familiar.

[Zach]

Neil Kaplan played Optimus in something I.

[Steve]

Saw In Robots in the Skies, the 2001 anime.

[Stephen Paul]

Wow.

[Steve]

But probably. I don't know, people. Our generation might remember him as Hawkmon from Digimon season two.

[Zach]

Yeah. And in Bleach plays. Oh, that's. That's Yamamoto. That's the old guy. Right. So that's. That's appropriate. Oh. But it's interesting seeing like someone. I guess that was the Viz side. I guess that's just. They're just.

[Ed]

Well, they were Los Angeles based.

[Zach]

Right.

[Steve]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I was going to say the. The lines have blurred at this point because of funimations Takeover since. How many years ago was that? Okay, so that's the news. I think now we could finally talk about chapter 1143. And we'll do it right after these messages.

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[Zach]

This is the manga recap for chapter 1143. Holy Nights. Holy Nights. You could read this chapter in all chapters as soon as they come out From Shonen Jump, viz.com or MangaPlus Shueisha Co JP okay, so let's get started. Steve.

[Steve]

Yes?

[Zach]

What's going on? On the COVID of Shonen Jump, I.

[Steve]

Was waiting for you to team me up there. You just said Steve and I'm like.

[Zach]

Hello, how are you?

[Steve]

I'm good. Just a very bad fuel leak here. Very dangerous.

[Stephen Paul]

Boring conversation.

[Steve]

Well, on this cover of Shonen Jump, it's a. It's a spiky jagged edge border in the top left corner. But we got Luffy, Zorro and Loki on here. Luffy and Zorro are kind of charging towards the camera. Luffy rate punch. Zoro with his swords drawn with a Dreamworks smirk.

[Ed]

And Lorki with his tongue out.

[Steve]

Yeah, Loki just making the lorky. Lorky malarkey. Loki making that face he always makes.

[Ed]

Yeah. Lorky Jones.

[Mike Patton]

His tongue's gonna dry out. His breath's gonna stink.

[Steve]

It's gonna freeze.

[Zach]

I guess Oda really is enjoying Loki because this is like he was prominent on the volume one. What is that 111 or 112? 111, I think.

[Stephen Paul]

111.

[Steve]

Is Loki a victim of when, like his mother told him. I could keep making that face. Your face is stuck. Get stuck like that.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Go Flamingo too. It must be. It must be a communicable disease. Maybe by audio, guys.

[Alex]

Maybe they're related.

[Zach]

They have the same tongue. That.

[Steve]

That's.

[Stephen Paul]

That's.

[Steve]

That's impossible. He has purple hair.

[Alex]

That's impossible even for a computer.

[Ed]

Speaking of characters who are related, do we talk about. But Hibari's vivre card?

[Zach]

What?

[Alex]

No.

[Ed]

Hibari's favorite card says she's from the North Blue. And it's got the same blood type as Akainu. So could definitely be her. His daughter.

[Steve]

Oh, yeah, because. Yeah, there was talk of like, they have like a similar.

[Stephen Paul]

They have the same accolade.

[Ed]

They have the same Hiroshima accent.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's right.

[Zach]

And blood type feels like really struggling to make the. I didn't.

[Mike Patton]

I didn't know they gave blood types on the VI car.

[Zach]

They do.

[Ed]

Blood types are types.

[Alex]

A huge thing in Japan.

[Ed]

Yeah, it's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. Yeah, it's like astrology. Which reminds me of another meme I saw today. I saw this week of a.

[Zach]

You know. Please.

[Ed]

A sort of a fan art cover story of Kobe and Hibari's first date. You know, meeting her father.

[Alex]

He's got the shotgun.

[Zach]

Steve, any other thoughts on the COVID.

[Steve]

Stay away from my daughter Kind of standard. I mean, you know, it's like the. The coloring is really nice. But.

[Zach]

I think.

[Steve]

Yeah, I. I don't think there's anything that really kind of really makes it unique other than just like, you know, standard affair. Luffy's got nipples, though.

[Zach]

Is that uncommon?

[Stephen Paul]

You can milk him.

[Mike Patton]

Let me open this up.

[Steve]

This is the first time I'm just like, just noticing them.

[Zach]

I'm like, oh, yeah, there they are. We all notice them one day.

[Stephen Paul]

You know what? His eyes are up there, guys.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, you're right. Sorry.

[Zach]

Staring into Your soul. He also is blushing.

[Steve]

Anywho, Vitamin D. Zorro.

[Zach]

Zorro still has those awful, awful goggles. Yeah. Steve, do you want to do the color spread?

[Steve]

Well, see, his. His nose got broken in. In the last NBA game, so he has to wear those. All right, so we. We got a cover spread, of course, this week, and based on a reader request, a straw hat crew car chase. So Oda basically doesn't do that.

[Ed]

Yeah, they're all riding flying fishes they stole from Duval, apparently.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex]

Except for Jinbei Fish. He don't need no flying fish.

[Mike Patton]

No, he's a swimming fish.

[Steve]

Yeah, it's like. It's like Sonic R, where all the characters are running except for Amy Rose, who has to drive a car.

[Ed]

And there's a. There's a little thing on there it says speed is the weapon. A lot of. A lot of times when there's stuff on there like. Like that, they're. It's song lyrics.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's true.

[Zach]

Or. Or it might be complete nonsensical. Like, Oda thinks this is cool sort of thing, but it could be either. I don't know.

[Steve]

But this is kind of fun. Like, actually some, like, interesting color choices here. Like, we have, like, Zorro in blue, Sanji in green.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, it's different.

[Steve]

Frankie and Usopp in purple. I think that's, you know, trying something a little bit different here.

[Zach]

But Chopper Back. Back as the backpack for Zorro is great to see. He's his brother. Yeah.

[Alex]

I like that everybody's wearing their number.

[Zach]

Yes. But they're also. They're also in the place of their number for the most part. Like, first place, second place. Third place is at least Brooks Brooke.

[Steve]

Looks like he's about to step right off.

[Zach]

Yeah, I'm assuming he is. He can run on water. People forget. Yes.

[Stephen Paul]

Like, if. If you zoom in, it's kind of hard to do, but, like, if you get a real zoomed in look, you can see that Robin is holding, like, I don't like a. Like a parfait glass or something like that. Like a. Like a mixed drink or something like that. But it does kind of look like she's just holding his ankle as he's.

[Zach]

I want to know. Cool.

[Steve]

Sanji. Sanji has, like, a plate and a drink. And how is that not just spilling everywhere?

[Alex]

He's a professional.

[Zach]

Question.

[Stephen Paul]

Incredible balance.

[Zach]

Professional. Yeah, I was gonna say when you're a professional, you could do that somehow.

[Alex]

Aren't he Spider man core muscles.

[Steve]

And why is he wearing his underwear over his racing suit?

[Alex]

That's. That's Zoro's underwear.

[Zach]

That's just. That's just good old fashioned. From the hit Nickelodeon show Doug. That was on the head, right? Was it also over the.

[Mike Patton]

No, you're thinking of quail. Yeah, that was over.

[Zach]

I am thinking quail, man. Okay.

[Mike Patton]

Okay.

[Zach]

Okay, Good. My reflect. I know you are. That's why I brought it up. I'm like, mike's got me here. If no one's got me, Mike's got me. I think someone mentioned that might be like a teapot and a cup of tea. I need to look on Manga plus because it allows you, I think, to zoom in a little closer. But I don't know if that's true or not. No.

[Steve]

Looks like it's part of his clothes.

[Zach]

All those people who ship Usopp and Frankie together. You got that? I assume there are people.

[Steve]

Gotta wait for the next.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steve]

We thundered that out.

[Zach]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, Actually, that's. That would be a good. I have no idea. I think this is super cool. And I think he really improved upon the original prompt, to be honest, because I like the racing with flying fish over water. That's, I think, very clever.

[Alex]

You know what? I would have pivoted here, too, because I hate drawing cars.

[Zach]

You know what? I bet you Oda feels the same way, because I remember him talking to Toriyama.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Mike Patton]

The process video is really cool, too, on this one. I know Joey shared it this morning.

[Zach]

Yeah. It's also on our Blue sky, which is this one piece podcast. You don't have to write whatever it is. Steve, what's going on in the first page of the chapter?

[Steve]

Well, this chapter is 1143 Holy Nights. I think Zach might have mentioned that.

[Zach]

At the start.

[Steve]

But we have a wide shot here from outside of the Owl Library as these strange drawings are attacking. We see. See Saul here running alongside these sleepwalking children. And he's like, hey, wait, y'.

[Zach]

All.

[Steve]

And we get Ylva. Mag. Ronga.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Q. Bert.

[Zach]

Oh, God. I knew where that was going.

[Steve]

Hi, kids.

[Alex]

We're eating tonight.

[Ed]

That's Thorfinn's sister from Vinland Saga.

[Stephen Paul]

That is also her name.

[Ed]

Yeah. And Rania is from a children's story by Astrid Lindgren, who wrote Pippi Longstocking also turned into an anime series 10 years ago by Goro Miyazaki.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Steve]

Poor Goro.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Hayao's favorite son.

[Zach]

Does he have any other sons?

[Steve]

And we see that there's something divide, like there's something like dividing Saul and the Children here. But he says, like, wow, they really. They're really sleepwalking. And he's, like, catching his breath, trying to catch up with them. And he's looking at this little divider here. He says, like, what's with this white cloth?

[Zach]

What are you all going? Where are you all going? By the way, this was in last. I just want to note that this.

[Stephen Paul]

Was in the chapter.

[Zach]

It's the arrow. Yeah, yeah. For those who listening, who forgot. I know, Steve. I know you read the manga. Do not worry.

[Steve]

Yeah, but I should mention that Robin and Chopper here are writing in his beard. And Robin yells out, be careful. You know, like. Like the. Like the three birds Peter Griffin was raising. She yells out, be careful, Saul. Remember the other teacher said not to touch the children. And Chopper.

[Alex]

Sound advice.

[Steve]

Yes. And Chopper adds, and he was all bloody.

[Alex]

I want to taste blood.

[Steve]

And sauces. I know he did, but I don't see nothing wrong with him. It's dangerous for him to keep walking like this. And we just start to see his little hand. Oh, his little. He's got a big hand. His hands start to start to move as we go to the next page.

[Zach]

Ed.

[Ed]

Yeah. And he starts sort of ushering them. Come on, let's get back to school. And then he screams out in pain. Yeah. And I'm not sure who's saying this, but they say. What was that? What was that, Saul? What happened? Something. Did something stab you?

[Zach]

I'm assuming Chopper and Robin. From the beard. To be fair, not the first. Yeah. It's not immediately obvious.

[Ed]

So. Yeah, because he tries to usher the children and they're. They're sort of being surrounded by thorn vines. And. And we guess. We. We hear.

[Zach]

Over.

[Ed]

Looks to be a transponder snail. It says, this is the walrus school. We hear all the children have suddenly fallen asleep. And out of those, nine of them have started walking. We don't know where they're going. Now, in the western village, we hear it continue. It's not clear why or how this is happening. And we overhear some giants talking. The kids at the school. My son's there, too. And also over the transponder snail. We hear there's also been a surge of strange monsters from the forest. Monsters? Are the children safe? The children are traveling down Branch route B or 8 at the moment.

[Stephen Paul]

Eight?

[Ed]

Yes. And we see that this is a transponder pillbuck. That pillbug that only works in Elbaf.

[Zach]

That's the same size as Jim Bay. Well, bigger. Yeah.

[Steve]

You gotta get a. You gotta get A pillbug SIM card if you want to be able to transponder snails in Elbaf.

[Ed]

So it's a p. It's kind of a PA system, basically. And we hear there's a fire too. What's all this sudden danger? Did something happen back at the school?

[Stephen Paul]

It's kind of funny how, like, every time Oda introduces a new variant on transponder snails, like, they usually serve a purpose or like there's some reason they have some capability that we haven't seen before. This time it's just like, oh, no, this is just. We just use these in Albaf. There's. There's nothing different. It's just a pill bug instead of.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, Big, big bug.

[Zach]

Yeah. Was it. Well, wasn't there something similar in Dressrosa where it had like a limit? I think it was more like story reasons, like, okay, they can't communicate easily with beyond. Beyond that island because something. Because A and B are going to happen and we can't tell CD&E. You know, it's. It feels very like. Okay, I'm introducing this weird thing here.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, he gave him a name. So the. The classic transponder snail is of course a den. Den mushi, which is like, you know, it's a pun based on the. One of the traditional words for snail in Japanese, but it. But in one piece, the kanji means like electronic transmission snail. And this one he called dengo mushi instead. And that. That would mean like electronic speak insect instead. But it is dango mushi is very close to dango mushi, which is what they call roly polys or pill bugs. So that's kind of.

[Ed]

And you can see he's got the armor like a pillow.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, he's got the. Yeah, the little rolly sections there, which is dongo mushi.

[Alex]

That is super cute.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, Dongo mushi. Yeah. So it basically dumpling bugs.

[Zach]

I was gonna say they're not pill bug. Yeah, they're dumpling. It's very funny. Oh, I also just want to add that it is notable that Nami is the one concerned about the children. Won't somebody please think of the children?

[Stephen Paul]

Of all the danger.

[Zach]

Yeah, Steven.

[Stephen Paul]

And so now we see someone has climbed up to the top of one of those buildings in the village and is looking over at the progress of the fire. And he's saying. Did you say Branch 8? Now, if he was from Southwest Elbaf, he would say the eight. But here they just say branch eight.

[Zach]

Boom boom on this podcast.

[Alex]

And if he was in whole Cake island. He'd be saying the brulee 8.

[Zach]

I don't like any of this.

[Stephen Paul]

But, yeah, he's. He's on the lookout. He's like, it's not looking good over there, which is. Is fun. And then. And then we get to the. The revelers in the party, led by Chief Jarl, who is also has his tongue stuck out. He must be related to Loki. Well, he probably is in some way, but he's like, oh, no, that's the school where my granddaughter's granddaughter Yulva goes. And the people are like, how many generations is that? And I will let you know here that what he actually says in Japanese is a term. The word is yashago, but it's a term like an obscure term for, you know, your great, great grandchild. And then they're like, what's a yashago? So, you know, it's sort of like, you know, a language joke that is derived from the fact that he's so old that he uses a term no one else would ever have to use. But, you know, I was looking around, I was like, man, is there some, like, obscure English term for, you know, a great, great grandchild? And I couldn't find anything like that. So that's why I had to kind of adapt it into something else. But clearly, yes, they are in no states to react and respond to an emergency, so NAMI is trying to cut them off. I think you've all had enough to drink now. And Brooke, who is. He still has. He's still mounted to his crotch, is carrying on.

[Zach]

Excellent, Excellent. I can't wait for Ian to do this. He'll do.

[Alex]

He's giving himself head.

[Zach]

Yeah, I'm not writing that. Do I write that down? I don't think I write that down. No, no.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, you should get it together.

[Steve]

So his tongue is also sticking out, so he could potentially be related to Loki as well.

[Zach]

That's true. That's true. Tongue.

[Ed]

Are you sure that's his tongue?

[Steve]

I sure hope so.

[Alex]

Thank God he's only nothing but bones.

[Stephen Paul]

And meanwhile, we hear a siren as one of the Svar ships takes off. And the people are cheering. And we see, uh, the. The guys in their horned firefighting helmets and brandishing. One guy's brandishing an ax and they're like, the firefighting spar is on the case. And they're like, you've got this firefighters. We're counting on you. And I do feel like this depiction of firefighters is similar to the one that we saw in Wano, where, like.

[Ed]

It'S very Edo era.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes, exactly. Like, very high strung, like, excitable firefighters. Which is kind of funny, by the way.

[Zach]

This would have been my son's favorite chapter if not for what immediately follows. Because this is what he does around my house all day, every day.

[Steve]

Fighting fires.

[Zach]

Yeah. Emergencies.

[Stephen Paul]

I did see a really great philosophical tweet that was like, what did our toddlers do before the invention of trucks? And I honestly, I had no answer to that question.

[Zach]

Sirens. Yeah.

[Mike Patton]

What the hell?

[Zach]

There's also, like, a thing where every. For Halloween, every boy is always going to be dressed as a fire. Like, it's. I don't understand where that comes from, but I wonder if that's the case in Japan as well. Like if they're.

[Steve]

I mean, it is kind of.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Steve]

It is heroic without, you know.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Without. Without being too problematic.

[Steve]

Yeah, yeah. Politicized.

[Zach]

Yeah. You know. Yeah. Fire firefighters just are. Yeah. Are just. Are just that. They're just heroic.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. I. I can't think of something. Problem firefighters.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, There they go. They are flying off to save the day. They're. They're going to put out that. That big old fire on the horizon. And then this random guy, this random guy who looks a little bit like an injured old man in the woods says, huh? What's that? As they see what appears to be. Oh, no, it's one of the. One of the weird dream monsters is rising up and we see that it is a skeletal warrior and he's got like. I can't tell if those are. I mean, I guess those are the ghostly flames. It's not the actual flame behind him. Uh, and the. The guy's like, huh. And then it just gets up and like a, Like a basketball center just swats. Just blocks the act of sports here.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ed]

Dickembe Mutombo.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

And then he. And then he shakes. He waggles his finger and. Yeah. Everybody back at the party is like. As the. Yes. The Viking Gashadokuro has come up and thwarted their attempt to put out the fire. Seems bad.

[Steve]

Who helped more? Who helped more?

[Zach]

The.

[Steve]

The fighting? The firefighting Svar crew or the Clicking Claw Force?

[Zach]

Ooh, they have a cooler. They have a cool ship, though. I like it.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. They're still airborne.

[Zach]

They're still good and they're airborne.

[Alex]

Yeah. I don't think the kicking clawforce even moved from their spirit spot.

[Zach]

No. I think they immediately got their ass kicked. At least.

[Alex]

They were literally window dressing.

[Zach]

There's momentum. We're, We're.

[Steve]

It's like, we could Confirm that Sir Crocodile has a devil fruit. And Vivian Chaka. Like we know that.

[Zach]

By the way, they didn't get an odor box, though these firefighters, the kitchen claw force did get an Oda box.

[Steve]

Yeah, the manga moved a lot slower back then.

[Zach]

Yeah, I know, but I mean, like, this feels like amazing drawing for like a nine year old, but.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah, I just love that Kid's Got talent. Otis. I got. I got two extra pages. What do I do? I'll introduce some characters.

[Zach]

That's Oda. That's our Oda. Cue music for sitcom. That was the end of the page, right? Yes, Mike.

[Mike Patton]

All right, next page. We're back. And we see St. Sommers is chowing down. And he goes, you see how those shocked those giants were when they got stabbed by the thorns? It's just like the famous saying, every love has its thorns. Never heard of it.

[Zach]

Clink. Gah.

[Mike Patton]

You're so apathetic, Uncle. You know that love is the passion to reach out and squeeze someone tight even as you see the thorns up close. The best part of this game is when it's parents and children clink as they continue eating. Parents hug the kids tight, thorns and all. And then the kids scream and wail when they see their worst nightmare. Mommy and daddy dying in agony. There's real emotion in killing. And we get an odor box that says St. Sommers Thorn. Thorn fruit. He's a thorn man. And he continues to chow down death by love. Isn't that just so exciting? And Gunku is not responding. And he falls back. No interest. The woman who never knew love. And what is. I forgot this guy's name.

[Zach]

This is killing.

[Mike Patton]

Killing him and killing him. We cut to him. Now, which route did you choose? Gunko. There was a thick branch that ran down the middle. And Gunko munches. And we see a map of the Walrus School, the Owl library, Western Village and the port. And Gunko says if they walk straight that way, they'll reach the village's sea clouds. The middle one's good. Stands out better. Makes the utter futility all the more apparent, says St. Sommers Summer.

[Zach]

Because I need a bit more salt.

[Mike Patton]

Salt. And he thinks about salt.

[Zach]

Alex.

[Alex]

There's also like a little warm womb. Like which assuming coming from killing him, who right now we see Summers is. He's got a snot bubble. He's. He's sleeping. And his dream has been manifested into like his little thought bubble. Dream is something that Killiam can reach out and grab something from. And he's sort of like rustling around in there and he goes, ooh, aspatch. Rock salt gourmet stuff. And we get an Oda box. St. Killingham dragon. Dragon fruit. Mythical type model. Kirin Dream manifesting man.

[Ed]

Yes. Gillingham Ichiban.

[Alex]

So I want to do a quick sidebar here. I don't. Is there anything really like that correlates Kieran to manifesting the dreams of people?

[Stephen Paul]

I don't just know either an ass.

[Steve]

Pull because I don't know if you drink too many Kirin. So you see just like a bunch of dragons, like.

[Zach]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe that's actually.

[Alex]

Maybe that's. Maybe that's the connection there. Because the only, like, the only thing I know about Kieran is that they're like a. They're like a good omen type. Type.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. I want to say maybe I saw something where like Kirin, the beer brand had done like.

[Zach]

Oh, I saw that, like a.

[Stephen Paul]

Like an ad campaign about like having good dreams or something like that. I'm not sure. I didn't actually look into that. So I, I don't want to pass off bad information, but. Well, it could be something like that.

[Alex]

If it, if it's based off of a commercial, I think that would be super funny.

[Zach]

By the way. I'm just, I'm looking at the one piece wiki for answers on this. I just love the way that this fact is worded. Killingham's Kieran transformation heavily resembles the Kieran featured on the logo of Kieran Beer, which Oda has admitted to enjoying. I just very much enjoy it.

[Alex]

Fine, twist my arm.

[Mike Patton]

I love Carl Monkey buzz under duress.

[Zach]

Yeah, this very good beer. I enjoy it. Yeah, it. I'll look around more, but I. That's the only thing I saw, the thing Steven mentioned, which I could totally see. I mean, that's. That makes sense, but. Sure. Yeah.

[Alex]

Well, I mean, now it's sort of confirmed that this is a devil fruit and he isn't just some sort of weird.

[Zach]

Not sort of confirmed. It's legitimately confirmed.

[Alex]

Okay. It's legitimately confirmed that this is a celestial dragon. Who wants to just walk around as a regular old dragon? Anyway, sidebar finished. You can wake up now. Killing him. Says as he pulls out a pile of rock salt and Summers wakes up with a snork and he says, what.

[Zach]

About the sleep dudes you pulled out of those Brett's dreams?

[Alex]

And I guess that's a playoff of Cryptid. Stephen.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, yeah, this is a really fun one. So I, I want to ask first to everybody on this call Is there anyone who is familiar with a term? It's a Japanese derived term, Yuma or uma. You ever heard that before?

[Alex]

I've heard uma. Like uma, right? Like, like a cow.

[Stephen Paul]

That would be an ushi.

[Alex]

Oh, oh, then what's uma?

[Stephen Paul]

Is a term. It is a cousin term to UFO or UFO that stands for unidentified unidentified mystery animal or mysterious animal. And that is basically their term for what we today would call a cryptid. So like chupacabra is an. Is an uma or a jackalope. Jackalope is a pneuma, the yeti. And so what Oda calls. What Oda used here, which I don't know if this is like Summers just making up. Like he's just riffing and coming up with this off the, off the dome or if this is like the actual official term of. Of what? Even if it was the official, him.

[Ed]

And him and killing him obviously worked together before. So yeah, he's had to think about it.

[Stephen Paul]

But yeah, he's. He calls them. It's spelled mmas instead of umas and it's pronounced muma. And the reason that that works is because moo is one of the other ways to read the country for yume or dream. So he's basically like dream, you know, dream mystery animals is the, the reference there. So, yeah, so I basically just came up with my own portmanteau of something with cryptid. Dream. Like a dream cryptid or I went with sleep. Sleep did. Because it actually has a ends with a P. So that makes the cryptid connection a little easier to. To notice. But that one was super fun. I was, I was really tickled when I saw, when I saw that from Oda.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's a really fun one. Isn't uma something? Is it Horse.

[Stephen Paul]

Uma is horse. Yeah.

[Alex]

Okay. I got my farm animals mixed up.

[Stephen Paul]

And, and, and that is also why they call her Yuma Thurman in Japanese. They don't call her Uma Thurman because it just sounds like a really mean thing to say.

[Alex]

Oh, that's funny.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Alex]

You know, quick sidebar. That's why in Greece they call Charlton Heston Charlton Easton, because Geston means to shit oneself.

[Zach]

Oh, cool.

[Mike Patton]

Oh, my God.

[Stephen Paul]

Wow.

[Zach]

Now I know how to say they.

[Alex]

Were ahead of the curve. Like hezi. That's the verb.

[Ed]

It's fun for my cold dead hens.

[Zach]

Oh, how appropriate.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's like the same exact thing.

[Steve]

Get your damn poopy drawers on.

[Alex]

So anyway, he asked about the sleep kids, and Killing M says, I can keep them going at the same time, of course. Hey, this salt goes perfectly with the meal. And Gunko says, I'll try some too. And I suppose this is killing him. Anyway, speaking of the giants boats in the village, apparently they draw rainbows in the sky with those painter rocks. And after taking a bite, we see a. We see Gunko's expression finally change.

[Zach]

How did. How did she take a breakfast? I don't know.

[Alex]

It's magic. She eats with her bandages.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Literally.

[Alex]

Yeah. And yeah, real you can eat. Really unique culture they've got. So all we have to do is take one of those to return to the Holy Land. And Summers is shocked and goes, ah, we've basically won already.

[Zach]

It's too easy.

[Alex]

This is a baby game for babies. I really appreciated that.

[Zach]

That's a really good line in particular. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

And Gunko says, oh, I'm very full now. And all this zero calories. And like a commercial killing him looks into the camera and says, well, it's dream food, so zero energy too, huh? And Gunko says, don't worry, Summers. There will be trouble. I saw a pirate ship moored on the sea. Clouds of the village, the emperor of the sea, Straw Hat Luffy is here. And we're getting a tarabang. Love those. And we see that the kids are walking towards the fire there, following Gunko's arrow. And I believe this is Summer saying, huh? The kids are walking right towards the fire and somebody says, see, you didn't expect this. Not to worry. If they die, we can send more.

[Zach]

So, yeah.

[Ed]

Shouldn't be preemptively killing the hostages.

[Alex]

Well, they've got nowhere to be, very clearly.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. Should we talk a little bit about the scene now that it's wrapped? And this feels like such old school one piece. This whole.

[Alex]

This is very Mr. 3 having tea with Mr. 5.

[Zach]

Ennis lobby had a lot of this. I feel like the quirky villains having conversations in a relaxed way as terrible things happen.

[Alex]

I do love that.

[Zach]

Me too.

[Alex]

It gives them a little bit more dimension.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It shows that evil people could also be doofuses. It's. I. I did very much enjoy this. Yeah.

[Alex]

Yeah. I'm actually really upset that Oda's making me really like these guys.

[Zach]

I mean, you could be entertained by them.

[Alex]

But also, I think they have really cool designs too.

[Zach]

Yeah. I think I. I do really enjoy killing him, particularly.

[Steve]

I think to me.

[Mike Patton]

To me, it just bodes like, really well for, like, fights to come to Come along with these guys, especially with, like, main crew. Because us getting, like, any form of investment in them is good.

[Alex]

Yeah. Personality goes a long way during a fight too.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. Hint, Dressrose. Well, actually Dressrosa had a little of that, but too much of that, maybe.

[Stephen Paul]

I really like that Killingham wears, like, the standard issue helmet, but because his Kieran form has a big, long snout, he has to attach like the extra breather on the end because it wouldn't fit otherwise. I think that's really funny.

[Mike Patton]

His design's really fun.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Steve]

I like how you just can't get a bigger bubble.

[Alex]

Kind of looks like a toxic seahorse from Mega Man X3.

[Zach]

How does the bubble work outside that whole area, though? Doesn't that only. You know what? Let's move on. Yeah, yeah. What's.

[Stephen Paul]

All right. And we will move on to the other scene of this chapter, where we go down the. We'd go down the tree to the scene with Loki, where of course, Luffy, Zorro, and Sanji. And then all of Hyrudin's crew are there, and they are. They're shouting, damn you, Loki. And he says, go on, Iridin, try and stop me.

[Zach]

Do the ha ha ha ha.

[Stephen Paul]

And we see him very high shot here, looking downward at Loki, who is holding his. His hammer, Ragnar with both hands, and he's crackling with electricity. There's what appears to be, you know, a bunch of blood stains from his wounds on the snow around him. And he's saying, but no, you can't possibly stop me. You can't even lift Dragon here. And Gerd is worried about, you know, the. The bolt of lightning that he just set off. She's like, I just hope no one gets hurt in the Sun World. And Loki says, they will. The flames will only spread further. So make your choice. Will you undo the last cuff and free me? And he's taking too long to say the rest of his line, so Sanji and Luffy start talking to each other. It's kind of rude. And Sanji's like, who's this enormous giant anyways? And Loki's like, he was really badly injured, so I wanted to help him. And then Loki finally composes himself and says, or will you all choose death? I'll only keep taking the lives of those weaklings in the Sun World if you don't answer me. And Hiredin's crew is. Is freaking out. We see. You know, Stanson looks worried. Roto's got his hands up like. And Iodin holds out his hand. He's like, wait, wait. All right. And Loki grins to himself like, aha. I've got it. He's listening now. And Zorro says, don't get suckered in Haywardin. He's like, oh, Zorro. And Luffy says, I guess I gotta do it. If he can move, I'll stop him. That was the deal. So Luffy's gonna take responsibility for the choice to free Loki here. He's going to fight him.

[Zach]

But Hayridan exclaims, wait, I don't know what rubber is. And straw hat. He'll electrocute you if you get too close. And Loki says, very well. Then I hear your answer. And Gerd is like, stop this, Loki. If you hit the children, there's no turning back. I. I guess with the flames, the. The. The lightning is specifically what she's referring to. Referring to there. And Zorro with his stupid goggles. Did I mention? Says, make sure you go easy on him, Luffy, or his wounds will get worse. Luffy, not really responding to that, says, gum gum. And Loki, who presumably has seen how this played out, already says, I guess I've lost this one. So it makes me wonder, is he just giving up at this point? I'm like, is he literally just sitting down like okay. Oh, right, because he was bluffing. It's not even like a future site thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd be not great poker player. As he looks like he's beginning to collapse and hired in. And frickin. Vodo are shocked as Loki falls to the ground with not even so much as a little punch from Luffy here. And boy is he large.

[Alex]

So he just like inflated his arm like a balloon and kind of bopped him.

[Steve]

Yeah, it seems like.

[Alex]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steve]

Cuz that like gum gum balloon isn't normally an attack.

[Ed]

He gave him a sock embopper.

[Zach]

No, it's. It's a gum poop. It's a gum gum poop. Like just a little.

[Mike Patton]

I read it. I read it as. He's not even like hitting him. Ages falls over and then the arm deflates. But I. You know, it could be whatever.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think it could be either way.

[Steve]

Because usually balloon is more like a defensive thing. Like he blows himself up to like, you know, bounce a cannonball.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Like it's not like pistol or something.

[Ed]

All right. When he. When he uses it as an attack, it's what, Bone balloon or muscle balloon?

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah. Gear three style.

[Ed]

Gear three or gear gear four?

[Zach]

Yeah. What's an arm balloon? Like, I guess that's like not even A gear version, I guess that's just.

[Alex]

It was just Bopper.

[Zach]

It's putting the balloon in his arm.

[Stephen Paul]

The arm version.

[Steve]

It's more. It's more fun than a pillow fight.

[Stephen Paul]

You said Loki would not be a good poker player, but I don't know. If I was playing Loki, you know, I would be like leaning over like, hey, what does it mean when he sticks his tongue out? What is that?

[Zach]

It just means he's related to Dopamingo. Steven.

[Steve]

His eyes are bandaged up, so.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's true.

[Zach]

That's not like it's been like that his whole life, Steve. What's next?

[Steve]

Time has passed and Zorro says he really was at death's door already.

[Zach]

And.

[Steve]

And maybe this is Luffy saying he was summoning all the strength he had left on a gamble.

[Zach]

If.

[Steve]

If his bluff had worked, he would have escaped so that he could collapse somewhere in secret. Yeah, I don't know, Oda. I don't know who's talking here. Maybe this is Zero saying, I just can't imagine that working based on the amount of blood he'd lost. And then he says, hey, it's up to you whether you want to heal him or let him die. And then the most jank ass Luffy I've seen in a while says, I had business with Loki too, but he had to wait when I saw how bloody he was. But I had to wait to see how. When I saw how bloody it was. Yeah, I don't know.

[Stephen Paul]

He's got a little frog mouth there.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steve]

Frog mouth, teeth or warped eyes.

[Alex]

I like it.

[Stephen Paul]

It's cute. I don't know if it's supposed to be cute, but.

[Steve]

And Roto here says, and it is true, whoever attempted to kill Loki, it is a separate incident from the matter of his own crimes. And then he says quietly, and I think I might know who it was. And then Luffy yells, please, Howard. And help him out a little. I don't want him to die, no matter who he is. And Howard and just looks down.

[Zach]

Or, you know, it's actually making the sound.

[Steve]

He just like, you know, the.

[Zach]

The.

[Steve]

The choice to not say anything is apparent by his. His three dots here. Ellipses. More time has passed. And Gerd here found a bunch of packets of blood to, you know, just. You know, they just have those laying around, I'm sure. I guess they went back into town or something. And. And Gerd is probably responding to like a question. She's saying until he's fully healed, it'll probably Take months. And she continues. As we see they now have him laying down, hooked up to. No. Yeah, Hooked up some blood bags. His hammer to the side, his feet arrested on logs. And I'm getting vibes from. I think Steven knows what I'm talking about here. Misery.

[Zach]

I don't know.

[Stephen Paul]

I was just thinking like there. He's getting his effing blood here.

[Zach]

Ah, yeah. That's the first thing that came to my mind.

[Alex]

His. His. They have to elevate his. His feet.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Thank you.

[Steve]

Oh, that's.

[Alex]

That's a medical thing. Yeah.

[Zach]

Does that say whole blood or whale?

[Alex]

He's just resting on logs, so never mind. But I think you have eight feet.

[Steve]

It's all logs.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, no. It says it's woke blood. Oh my God.

[Zach]

Oh, that's woke blood. Oh my God.

[Steve]

Oh no.

[Zach]

I thought it was whale blood, but. Which fits.

[Ed]

The Loki's already got purple hair.

[Stephen Paul]

I'm gonna mute here. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go look to see if I can get the high res to see if I can see what it says.

[Zach]

Okay. Okay.

[Steve]

It does kind of look like it says that.

[Zach]

Which woke.

[Steve]

Yeah. Or whole blood. You know how you.

[Zach]

It looks like whole blood. Yeah.

[Steve]

There's like two. There's 2% blood.

[Zach]

Skin blood. I only recently found out. I only recently found out that whole life is really just 3% because it's 3% fat in the milk.

[Steve]

I can't wait for that new campaign from the blood industry. Got blood. And it's everyone with blood mustaches.

[Alex]

Oh, big blood.

[Zach]

Hey, Big blood. Yeah, I don't know if I support big blood.

[Mike Patton]

I. You know, I. I know someone who would love that.

[Alex]

Oh, is it Count Dracula?

[Mike Patton]

Yes.

[Zach]

Will we find out in your really good post coming up?

[Mike Patton]

No, there will be no talk about who enjoys blood in my really good.

[Ed]

Actually.

[Mike Patton]

Sorry.

[Zach]

The.

[Ed]

Really speaking of Dracula, I actually saw a good idea for a couple's couple's Halloween costume this year. That was Dr. Akula and Nurse Ferratu.

[Mike Patton]

That's pretty funny.

[Alex]

Pretty good. Yeah. I bet. You know who also likes blood? Nurse Veratu.

[Zach]

I don't like any of this.

[Steve]

I think might be interested, but I think he wants a little bit more. He doesn't.

[Stephen Paul]

All right, I can confirm it does say whole blood.

[Alex]

Whole blood.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Zach]

That's what I thought. Okay. Why?

[Alex]

Just like in Canada, it comes in bags.

[Zach]

Yeah. Wait, is Albert Canada? This whole time we thought it was freaking Steve. What else? Or was that it? Where were we on this page?

[Steve]

Yes. Yeah. Some people are trying to Put tariffs on the whole board real soon.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. RFK doesn't want to pasteurize this, but blood.

[Steve]

Finally we're back to. And Kurt says if you really want to see him recover, you shouldn't leave him in a place like this. Also, don't leave him on a bunch of logs. But I guess maybe the cold snow would be worse. But she says but if he's taken to the village, it'll only lead to more calls for execution. They'll kill him. And I think this is Luffy saying. Like they hate him that much. Maybe this is Gert saying he's an irredeemable scumbag. Luffy kind of looks down here and.

[Alex]

Says, might be Roto saying that.

[Steve]

Oh, he shouldn't talk.

[Zach]

Yeah. I hope it's not Roto. I'm pretty sure it's Hyrudan. Probably saying that he'll get struck by.

[Steve]

Lightning if he keeps talking like that. Luffy says these horns turn out to be real.

[Zach]

Huh?

[Steve]

And we get this close up here of Loki Sansa's helmet because as you can see, it's. It's taken off. In the previous panel, they somehow were.

[Alex]

Able to take it off. Yeah.

[Steve]

Really annoying. And someone says there are. This might be Gerd stolen. And says they're a holdover of his ancient giant blood. Just like his father Harold. And we see his father before. If I could quote Yusuke Urames. He's like, that guy's got horns. I like to ruin my day.

[Alex]

I like. I like this. This panel of. Of tiny Luffy sitting on his.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

That seems really painful.

[Zach]

Yeah. It seems unnecessary.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I also. The. Was the skin melding into the horns. That. That's a fun, creepy addition. Potentially. Alex, What's. What's going on at the end here?

[Alex]

Looks pensively as he has a little tiny flashback in his brain. It's King Harold talking to Loki. Lil Loki and even Liller hired in. Duh. And he says, you are my sons.

[Steve]

And I love you both.

[Alex]

I want you two to work together to support Elbaf after I'm gone.

[Mike Patton]

And.

[Zach]

Is that the devil?

[Alex]

Is that the devil?

[Zach]

Is that the devil? What was the line exactly?

[Alex]

That was ed's.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I thought that was yours. Yeah. I thought that was yours.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Those bastards laid claimed everything we hold dear.

[Zach]

We have to offer him more.

[Alex]

There you go.

[Steve]

We need to offer him.

[Zach]

No. I don't care. It's my line. I could say whatever the hell I want.

[Alex]

Anyways, we flash forward to some time later where I guess this is During a battle. And Loki is, you know, doing pretty well, and Iridin's not. And he goes, I can't believe this tiny weakling is supposed to be my big brother. You're just a bastard. You're not our father's legitimate son. Hear that, Hiredin? Your mother had filthy blood in her veins. Loki was here. Hirudin's a loser.

[Steve]

Oh, that Loki.

[Alex]

So familiar.

[Stephen Paul]

Picture of Hired in there.

[Alex]

Yeah. So this is a really awesome panel of Loki in the foreground, sort of shadowed a little bit, and Haradin sort of holding up his axe, figuring out what to do with it, and he just kind of goes for it. Ro goes, yeah. Wait, wait. And is that Goldberg? Not Goldberg, the other one. Stanson says, ah, don't lose control. Iin and hin says, I never forgive.

[Stephen Paul]

Him for what he did.

[Zach]

He insulted my mother.

[Mike Patton]

It killed my father.

[Alex]

And Loki says, go on and do it, you sad little berserker. Or perhaps instead of indulging in your petty personal drama, take a look at the woods around us. They all say, I went and killed dad with pure murder in my heart. But you don't believe that, do you? Dun.

[Steve]

Uh oh, it was actually Sunday. Father wasn't in the office building that day.

[Zach]

And that does it for 1143. We are back next week, so don't worry. Alex, I'm going to start with you. What did you think of the chapter this week?

[Alex]

I thought it was great. I thought that it was very economical as far as reveals and moving things along goes. I think there's been some criticism as of late, and my cousin from Greece who I saw this week, who, you know, is following the manga as and has been for a while, I asked him like, oh, what do you think of, you know, of Elbaf so far? And he goes, I think they're moving it too quick. Like, everything is. It feels like he's rushing a little bit, and that might be the case, but I think. I think it's for the bets best. You know, I feel like we still have a lot to get through until the end of the series. And if, if he's economical about this and doesn't, like, you know, devote an entire chapter to, for example, these, you know, nightmare beasts, these sleep duds running around and like, not much happening, then I'm all for that stuff happening sort of in the background. Like I said earlier, I think these Holy Night characters are more fun than they ought to be. I have ideas for fight matchups. I mean, I. I initially thought that killing him is going to fight Zoro anyway, because Zoro has experience fighting Kieran. See, Kaku and I think Summers with his several, like, mentions of love and emotion and yeah, he says love so many times that I'm like, oh, this. This guy has got to fight Sanji. There's. There's no way around that. That'll be pretty fun. And Gunko, whose worst fear is Nika, will probably end up fighting Luffy. And I'm guessing that the rest of the crew will probably fight these giant monsters. Steven, you and Greg were talking about Usopp in a recent sgs, and now that we know that Ragnar is a giant hammer, I do hope that Usopp. There's something Usopp related with that. But I do worry that Oda will sort of, you know, sort of brush that aside and, you know, it'll be like a Luffy thing, but because Usopp.

[Ed]

Use the fake giant hammer in. In throughout the bark.

[Alex]

Right? Yeah, the 10 ton hammer.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Well, that was. That was 5 ton in alabaster.

[Ed]

One of them was just two, like, cooking pans.

[Alex]

Yeah, no, the. The other one was a balloon.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Alex]

I wonder how many. I wonder how many tons this. This hammer is. It seems superfluous, but I. I'm. This is what I'm interested in. And I, you know, I think we've talked about this this entire arc, but yeah, Loki not really killing Harold or maybe having like, you know, the reason. A reason of malice behind it. Like, that's. That's something we've been sort of like, spitballing all this time. And I. If that's the case, then I'm glad that we're sort of getting around to it versus, like, beating around the bush.

[Ed]

And getting into the drama between Hiredin and Loki is. That's interesting to me at least. It's.

[Alex]

Yeah. So, yeah, I thought it was a really great chapter. I'm really loving. I. I'm loving at the pace it's going and some fun art.

[Ed]

And Stephen, I think you were referencing that. That the little hydin looks like the Hired and I think maybe from like an sbs.

[Steve]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Stephen Paul]

The child kid.

[Alex]

Yeah. Almost the same pose. Yeah. And. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The. The God. The. The. The firefighting spar. Super funny like that. Like the. Just. Just the. The rebound from the giant skeleton. I just. I just love a. Almost dialogue. A dialogueless panel like that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ed]

Does anyone else. Anyone else see this? There's like, you know, those. They used to be like anime short film anthology movies that came out, and one of Them had like a one that was like, about competing firefighting crews in Edo era Japan.

[Alex]

Interesting.

[Ed]

It's kind of. Kind of like other movies that are. That are like Robot Carnival.

[Alex]

Oh, so like a compilation.

[Ed]

Yeah, compilation of shorts. Like a Genius Party or Robot Carnival. And one of them. I forgot. I forgot what movie it was. Maybe it was the one called the Short Piece. Yeah, I think.

[Alex]

Look into that.

[Ed]

Yeah, that's a. That's a Sentai disc that came out a while back.

[Zach]

Fun.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Oh, so that's it for me. Let's keep it going. Oda, this is great.

[Zach]

Mike, what did you.

[Mike Patton]

I had a good time with this one. I had a good time with this one. I also have not had a problem with the pacing.

[Ed]

I don't have a problem with the pacing. I have a problem following the action a lot these days, especially reading on the app.

[Mike Patton]

I'll tell you what, I get that too, because I had that today going on that page with the Socken Bopper. Couldn't tell whether he hit him or not. But yeah, no, I, I had a good time with this chapter. I think what I really liked about it was just, I. I love that we're getting characterization of the Holy Nights, and I also like that they're, you know, I was worried that the Holy Nights were going to be, you know, like a little more serious, maybe a little more darker than some other stuff that we've seen. But then we get, you know, they're goofy and I like that. I'm also looking forward to going into this Loki and urgent in backstory. I want to see what happened. But, yeah, no, I had a good time. I yield my time.

[Zach]

Stephen.

[Stephen Paul]

I, I thought this was a great chapter. I'm. I'm one of the people who has been a little critical of, I guess, kind of, I would say, frenetic pacing or, you know, he's. He's trying to make you as confused as possible to help simulate the. The panic of the situation. Because obviously there's a lot of bad stuff that's happening right now kind of all together as one. And it's. It's meant to be particularly challenging to the characters. So he is kind of giving us, the readers, a bit of that as well. But I thought this was a great chapter that, you know, laid out a lot of just straightforward answers. We get to see what the powers are that the other knights have. And, you know, it all makes sense. It helps make more sense of the previous chapters and see a lot of those little foreshadowing bits as the, the hints that they are meant to be. And, you know, I had a lot of fun wordplay and stuff in it too. So I did, I did have a lot of fun and I really do. I, I like the, the drama between Loki and Hayward in. Because that was, that too was something where, like, you could tell based on the facts that we had been given a while back that, like, there's got to be something going on between these two guys because they are both, you know, they are both described as like the son of the king. And now we finally get to see that. Yeah, there is some, some bad blood in between them. But I really like the choice to have Loki. You know, basically with the way that ODA panels, the last page or two, you know, Loki is, is saying like, yeah, but you, you don't actually believe that I did this and, you know, and you don't believe that I'm the monster that they all say I am, do you? And even though we've just seen Heyerdin talking about the grudge that he bears, he's never forgiven Loki for what he did. He's also taken aback by this because whether he realizes it or not, you know, we don't know. We can't see inside Haywardin's head, but we know from this interaction that he realizes Loki is telling the truth here, that it's not that, yeah, Loki probably didn't mean to do it or whatever happened. It's not the way that people assume it is. And so I really like that, that kind of confrontation where you both get to see Heiden kind of getting something off of his chest, like he has in his mind, you know, that that's the narrative that, that he has, has gone with because, you know, he has a reason to be angry that his mother was insulted and, you know, his father was murdered.

[Ed]

I wonder what other giant nation his mother is actually from then.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Or if that is gonna even matter at all or if it's just kind of a standin for, you know. Yeah, giant giants got racism too. But it's, it's a really good dramatic stuff and I'm eager to find out the, you know, the, the real story.

[Ed]

I just remember that, like, I think when Saul was introduced, he seemed a little offended that people would think he was from elaf.

[Stephen Paul]

Right. Yeah, he was like, no, we're not. We're not those warmongers. You know, I'm from a different giant group. But yeah, I mean, they, they seem to have accepted him here for now. But yeah, there's a lot of There's a lot of stuff going on under the surface in albaf. So, yeah, it's really exciting stuff. It's really coming to a head. So I am eager to see, you know, what. What we're gonna find out next.

[Zach]

Steve.

[Steve]

Yeah, this was a. This was a dense little chapter here. I like, there was a lot to sink my teeth into at first. I was kind of like when we were with the knights and kind of just really squeezing the introduction to these devil fruit abilities into these small panels. I was like, is this cramming too much? But I think I kind of like what others have said about it being economical here with just the whole gimmick of them sitting around eating. It's a great way to show this happening without it just being, like, a character saying, this is my ability. This is what I do. I like the whole, you know, Killingham needs salt. So I think it's, you know, it was a really funny demonstration. The thorn. Thorn fruit is still interesting. I kind of want to see exactly what that entails. The fact that he could create invisible thorns or maybe that. Yeah, with someone else's help. But different from. Not to be confused with the spikes.

[Ed]

Someone was saying that Sanji might fight Summers, and if he does, maybe he can attack him with a marmot and threaten to cut off his johnson.

[Stephen Paul]

Is that a reference that's from. Oh, is it?

[Zach]

Yeah. Oh, man.

[Alex]

Yeah. When he's in the bathtub and they throw a marmot.

[Steve]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

Oh, nice. Marmot. Actually, what is the Japanese term for his fruit, Steven?

[Stephen Paul]

No, it's the togetoge.

[Zach]

No mi.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, wait, so wait, is it.

[Alex]

His is togetoge.

[Steve]

I thought that was Miss Double Fingers.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, no, no, sorry.

[Mike Patton]

You're right.

[Stephen Paul]

You're right. It's. It's iba. Iba is, which is short for ibara, and that's another word for. For thorn.

[Alex]

Ah, okay, so Ed was almost correct. Yeah. That's buggy.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ed]

Isn't Ibarra the girl from my hero academia with the vines for hair?

[Alex]

Yes.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Steve]

Damn.

[Stephen Paul]

We're nailing it with language trivia today.

[Steve]

But, yeah, I think this. I think what was done, I think, is. I mean, totally serviceable. I think rereading this chapter, I don't see much of a problem with it. I think there's still some panels I'm not crazy about with. With. With Saul and the kids, because I wonder, like, is Saul like, a small. It's all like a smaller giant compared to, like, the warriors.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah. Because he's like. Yeah.

[Ed]

I think it's just he's smaller than Loki, I think.

[Steve]

Well, for sure he feels kind of small in, like this. On page four here, I was just like, oh, I always thought he was bigger.

[Zach]

I mean, I also think. I don't know. He's been drawing Saul very oddly, I think in general since Elaf. But maybe it's just cuz I'm comparing it to his art from Ennis Lobby. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

[Stephen Paul]

I think, I think Oda can be also influenced in like how he evolves the. The visuals of the characters based on who they're being compared to. So now that there's a bunch of other giants, you know, Saul. Saul is relatively cuddly compared to the rest of them. So I think that's why maybe he like he's. He's drawn him a little bit more like a pound in terms of his proportions and stuff from, from Whole Cake Island. So I feel like that's, that's, that's a little bit of the process that's going on.

[Steve]

Gotcha. Well, I think this chapter also explains why Loki was chained up with the Ragnar because no one else could lift it. So that makes. Yeah, I think that makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense.

[Zach]

Right? Well, even, even if no one else could lift it, can't they find some sort of giant crane to.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, they don't have any giant forklifts.

[Zach]

Or anything like that. Yeah, like that's. Let's just move it slightly away from him. It doesn't even have to be like that far. Just enough.

[Steve]

They don't have the budget.

[Zach]

It. Yeah.

[Steve]

I'm intrigued that even in this flashback here that. That Loki's eyes are still bandaged up? What's up with that? What was up with that?

[Zach]

Is it at all possible that he's actually blind and. Or do we think there's just something. Is this a doe flamingo thing? Because he's already so similar.

[Alex]

I wonder if it has something to do with his devil fruit power that we still don't know about.

[Zach]

True. Yeah.

[Steve]

Like long shot here. It's like, oh, is it covered up to review. Nah, I think you see too much of his forehead in this. I'm like, oh, maybe he has a third eye.

[Alex]

What if he's got like cyclops powers where just like rays come out of his eyes and they just can't stop.

[Zach]

Oh yeah, we haven't seen a Cyclops, have we? In one place.

[Steve]

But, but I get. I guess they're. Oh yeah, no, but he's referring to Cyclops. As in, you know, optic.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, you know, I know, but I got that after I gene, you know? Yeah, no, I know.

[Alex]

Well, the thing, though, is that Cyclops has concussive optic blasts. They're not like. It's not like heat vision or anything. And I wonder if he has heat vision, which would make him a danger to himself and society, especially people living on a giant tree.

[Zach]

Ooh, that would explain why it's covered. Or if it's something where fire is involved, because. But he also doesn't seem to care about causing chaos, so. I don't know. I mean, we don't.

[Steve]

I found it interesting that Haradin is the younger brother, because, you know, if you do like the.

[Zach]

No, no, he's the older brother, isn't he? Isn't that what they say?

[Steve]

I can't. I can't believe this tiny weakling. Oh, it's supposed to be my big brother.

[Zach]

Right.

[Steve]

Mistake. Sorry.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Then scratch what I was gonna say there.

[Zach]

Okay, I'll do that.

[Ed]

So seemingly Haywardin was born before Harold got married to Loki's mother.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes, that. That would be the suggestion, I think.

[Zach]

Yeah. Well, Hagridin was also alive during the Big mom flashback, and Loki was just being born.

[Stephen Paul]

That's right. Yeah, that's right.

[Zach]

So we know he's 63, I think is when that. Which is very young for a giant. But, like, what is that even? It's probably like, 17, which sounds right in Oda years. That sounds right. Steve, anything else?

[Steve]

No, I don't want to pratt on for too long, but just like, some really interesting developments here. The. The villains are entertaining, despite being, you know, total scumbags. But I'm really.

[Ed]

They're weirdos. It's even worse.

[Steve]

Yeah, big weirdos. It's just what I want in my one piece villains. I want weirdos. But very interesting developments here. And, you know, maybe my. My Herald theory might come true. Who knows?

[Zach]

Yes. King Harold's purple crayon will come to be. Sorry about that. Ed, your thoughts?

[Ed]

Overall, good chapter, I think.

[Stephen Paul]

The.

[Ed]

As I said, the villains are being weirdos and they relate to each other in an interesting way. Like the way Summers is talking to Gunko, like, sounds like there he. You know, he's maybe got a thing for her or something. I don't know. And very interesting interactions with Loki and Haywardin, which is very interesting to me, which is going to, I think, going to make the arc more interesting if we get even more flashback of their childhood. So there's that. But ultimately good chapter, even if I Do have a hard time following chapters these days, especially reading on the app.

[Zach]

That it add.

[Ed]

Yeah, that's all I gotta say.

[Zach]

Yeah, I don't have a ton to add other than the one thing I'm interested to hear from. Like if anyone else has this opinion. I feel like we're getting a flashback soon with these two characters, Herodin and Loki. This, this is kind of the MO Generally with Oda flashbacks, especially when they aren't for major characters, you know, is that you get a little glimpse of it and then either a chapter or a few chapters later you dive in. I don't think it would be a very long one, but I think we already have the setup with Harold being traitorous potentially in my point of view very likely. And I think it's something that they. That Oda would story wise like for the reader would have to reveal sooner rather than later because it's something that will be probably discussed amongst the holy knights or in some regard in the story because it feels important to the crux of what's happening here, particularly with Loki. And I think Steven or Alex mentioned this too and I, I think the pace of it is generally benefiting the story because we don't. We're not dilly dallying around things that are kind of obvious on their face. Like Loki isn't what he seems in. In a good way for him. You know, like he probably has much more positive characteristics than what was the. What did I written call him? The irredeemable scumbag. You know, I don't think there's. There are very few people in one piece that you could describe accurately with irredeemable scumbag. Because Oda makes it even like the worst people somehow somewhat redeemable in the eyes of the story, even if not just subjectively, at least objectively in the story. You know, lifts them up a little. And I don't think Loki is going to be an exception to that. Obviously the celestial dragons are a big exception to that. I think the. We also talked a little bit about the. The. The racism and the different giants. I think that's something story wise that should and almost has to be.

[Steve]

You.

[Zach]

Know, more of a discussion point of. In this story because the. I think because the dynamic between Hyruid and Loki revolves around that and the ancient giant thing and the horn and Harald pulling out his horns at some point after this. All very, very interesting stuff that I think you need to talk about the different types of giants and why they diverged. And I think the mural once Again could, you know, kind of hint to the. The reasoning behind it. I'll mention this every time. I am one episode of the SGS behind. But Steven and Greg's discussion on dragons and how the celestial dragons are trying to emulate real ones. This. How many dragon. Dragon fruit. I mean I guess all the dinosaurs were dinosaurs.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But those were ancient types. This was the first mythical type. Right.

[Steve]

That's true.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. So the Killingham connection there. Look. I love the design and all that on the surface level, but very interesting to me to get inside the psyche of the celestial dragons and maybe get at a little more of what happened back then. And then circling back to the. To the very beginning. Less important. I thought this was a really good chapter for humor. I thought the. The stuff with. I thought Summers again. Scumbag. You know, I mean that's obvious. But really I thought this was an entertaining. And it's very funny that he was. He was brought in on his sofa. He was sitting in a chair at the beginning. At the. When he was looking at all the. What were they called? Sleep ins. And now they have a dinner table that they're all sitting around for no reason in the middle of the forest. I think that is so like. It feels very old school. Ooda as I mentioned, which I love. And this character feels like he could have like Gadatsu almost like that kind of villain. Or like. Or like not Mr. 3, I guess even like you know, Bon Clay a little bit had that.

[Alex]

I love that. He's very silly.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Alex]

And it looks like. And he comes from like elder blood. Yes. And yeah like the. You know, the fail sun almost.

[Zach]

Yeah. I'm very interested to see what happens to these characters. I'm sure they're scumbags. No doubt in my mind that they're scumbags. But they're entertaining scumbags so far. Which is all you could really ask for in a story. Yeah. Gunko is the one I've been least sold on. I think Steven ruined her for me. The soul eater. Yeah, a little bit. And also the no pants thing is odd. As we mentioned. Although she's sitting down here. I don't think there's any romantic connection here. I think it's more that this whole like mellow drama of. Of Summers being like. Come on. You have to understand that to love means to. To feel pain and murder. Murder's just. Oh, that's the strongest emotion of them all. I think Mike did a very good job at.

[Stephen Paul]

He's just. He's just one of Those like oversharing people that it's just like constantly talking and like, just won't shut up. I think that that Oda really nails that personality with him.

[Zach]

Yes. I mean, we've all met this person. I mean, it's. It's.

[Steve]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I think he Very well done and. But, you know, I wouldn't want to hang out with this guy ever. But very entertaining in the manga.

[Alex]

Go.

[Zach]

I don't know if I have anything else I want to say. Were there any other points that left on the table, so to speak? Any salt? Anyone brought salt? No.

[Stephen Paul]

I almost wondered a little bit with the salt thing. So like, in Japanese. So like when we. When we. Idiomatically when we talk about salt or being salty in English, like nowadays that. That's basically like you're upset, right? Like you're. You're frustrated or whatever. Like, don't get salty if something doesn't go your way. But in Japanese, salt is more like, like just harsh in general. I want to say there was like Oda did a joke with salt about Shishilian, like when he was introduced in. In Zo, when he. His whole thing was like. He was just like, super. Not nasty necessarily, but just like. Like really kind of harsh towards everyone. And I almost wondered if like, that was sort of Killingham's response to like him giving all these speeches about like, you know, agony and killing people and stuff. But I do, but. But then I was like, no, I think he's just. I think it's just more of a straightforward, like, you know, think of a purple elephant and then, you know, using that. That mental image to.

[Zach]

That's. That's what we would take out of Steve's thought bubble right now, I think a purple elephant. He's nodding.

[Steve]

I think about those constantly.

[Zach]

I assume that's just all you do that.

[Stephen Paul]

And they are on parade.

[Steve]

Yeah. I'm also blackout drunk.

[Zach]

I was going to mention the salt. The salt connection. Also Thriller Bark. There's a lot of. Salt is a very important device. Plot device, at least in the beginning of that arc.

[Ed]

And also in Combating Devil Fruits, right?

[Zach]

Yeah, I guess. Sea salt.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I don't know if they've. Was that maybe that was the reasoning behind how they got the shadows out, Right? Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. I don't think Oda's ever used that as like.

[Zach]

Well, salt doesn't just come from the sea. It comes from lots of places. Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Right.

[Zach]

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[Zach]

This is the Piece Together segment where we take your questions, comments, theories and give them a little gum gum. Boop on the nose. Just a little one. Alex, what's our first segment?

[Alex]

Well, this is a segment that we.

[Stephen Paul]

All like to call Dis piece.

[Alex]

And our first dis piece comes from Felk Storm. He says Ahoy Opp. I got a prediction for the end of the series. Once Luffy beats the World government Blackbeard and finds the one Piece, a new axis of evil will turn up, consisting of Steli, Wapol, Wanze, Satori and Zombie Absalom.

[Zach]

Alex, I haven't heard a word you said because you had a cat in front of you and you're playing an episode of Home Movies behind you on Zoom. And Steve has the original 35 millimeter Dragon Ball Z intro going in the background. And also Matt has the Lucille balls.

[Mike Patton]

Hold on a second. Hey, hey.

[Zach]

Sorry Mike. Mike has the Lucille balls behind him from Rat Race and just know all that's going on in the background.

[Alex]

Somebody screenshot this, please.

[Zach]

I'm going to right now. This will be on Patreon. You guys could all enjoy that. Oh my God. The cat with the. Okay, what the hell did they say? What was the question?

[Alex]

I said a new axis of evil will show up after one piece ends. Yeah, you know what axis of evil is? Stelli, Wapole, Satori and Zombie Absalom.

[Zach]

That's too many axes, but yes. What's the next question? Alex, thank you. For the love of God, Steve.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's it. Back to Winnipeg says.

[Zach]

Well that's where we're going to get our bagged blood. So that's perfect.

[Alex]

Yeah, they say, oh crap. We got a color spread instead of Yamato's cover story. The sooner Yamada finishes his cover story, the sooner he can come out of new remember Limbo and join the rest of the straw hats.

[Zach]

It's true.

[Alex]

Anyways, here's a Yamato question to fill the void. Is Yamato going to save Ulti and the women who's who abducted and take them to his lair in the mountains like Odin and start another harem war? So, speaking of harems, what do you think of Yamato's favorite harem animes would be?

[Zach]

There's a lot of questions there. It's. Is it Yamato or Yamato? It's Yama.

[Steve]

Yamato.

[Zach]

Yamato.

[Steve]

Okay, Yamato.

[Zach]

Well, I just yelling. I just hear people yelling from the future.

[Steve]

That was already a potential episode.

[Mike Patton]

I know, I know.

[Alex]

List some harem anime.

[Zach]

Yeah, I might looking this up.

[Alex]

Wait, isn't there one that's like monster or something?

[Steve]

Show your age and name a harem anime listener.

[Mike Patton]

All I'm gonna say is listen to your heart.

[Alex]

Battleship Yamato. It could be a harem anime if you from a certain point of view.

[Stephen Paul]

Of a sausage fest.

[Zach]

Love.

[Steve]

Love Hina. The black cage.

[Zach]

Nisekoi from Nisekoi. Yeah, I'm looking at on that anime list or my anime list. Not that to give that anime show.

[Alex]

Man. Guys, remember Love Hina. Every once in a while the opening will come up on my shuffle and it like. It just instantly like my eyes roll in the back of my head and I get transported like 20 years ago.

[Steve]

I only read some of the manga. I never checked out the anime. I thought the anime didn't like have the same kind of appealing art style as the manga.

[Alex]

Have you ever seen the opening? It's cracked out.

[Zach]

I don't think I've seen any of these so far. I'm Looking on this list.

[Mike Patton]

I don't necessarily know it, but I believe when I worked at the movie theater, they would play the showings where everybody would go nuts in them. Am I thinking of something different?

[Zach]

I don't know.

[Mike Patton]

They would have like music and they would have all have like those music.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Mike Patton]

And they would have that stuff where I'm thinking of something else. Okay.

[Zach]

The only one I could think of is Tenchi and. Yeah, that's it.

[Steve]

We're talking about Harem anime. What did you think we were knew?

[Alex]

Hair anime. Like Dragon Ball, Hairspray.

[Steve]

We're talking about Hairspray.

[Mike Patton]

That had to have been. It had to have been a showing of Hairspray.

[Alex]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. More sense. Pecker. I'll start naming other John Waters films. So aren't most.

[Zach]

Aren't.

[Steve]

Aren't most like harem animes these days just Isekai?

[Zach]

Probably.

[Steve]

It's like, wow, I can't. Believe me. The best boy at video games is surrounded by all these beautiful women.

[Zach]

And that's the title of the show, Alex.

[Alex]

The next one is. The next one is someone who's very into yellow jackets. Shauna Shipman's da Slay. It's Slay. You all know Slay. Hello, my fellow firefighters. Man, what a chapter. All those monsters. So menacing. My question is, do you ever think about the level of sentience, things like that have in the series? Whether it be those condro's creations, synthetic humans, etc. Do you think he'll have autonomy up to a point, but will ultimately, ultimately be under their creator's control? Could they live their own lives with their own thoughts and feelings and grow. Have a great day.

[Zach]

This is a science fiction tonight.

[Mike Patton]

God, I hope not, man.

[Zach]

Ryunosuke, obviously.

[Mike Patton]

I don't want that weight on me.

[Zach]

Ryunosuke obviously was a. Was a living being with feelings and emotion. And I miss him so much.

[Alex]

You know, I wondered about Ryunosuke because, you know, Kanjuro is ultimately a piece of shit that we all hated. Do they have their creators like vibe?

[Steve]

No.

[Mike Patton]

No way.

[Zach]

No way. Ryonosuke was.

[Steve]

Anosuke was a. He was a good boy.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Mike Patton]

They do not. They do not carry down the sins of the father.

[Zach]

And more importantly, you can't judge work by its creator. Like, you know.

[Alex]

Well, just you wait until Rionosuke ends up being that. That cute duck that drinks a milkshake that everyone loves.

[Zach]

Oh, you mean.

[Steve]

You mean milkshake duck?

[Alex]

Yeah, that's right.

[Steve]

Why? What happened to. What happened to milkshake duck?

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, what are they began into?

[Steve]

Where is Milkshake Duck?

[Stephen Paul]

We don't need to go into that.

[Alex]

We don't. We should Google it, though.

[Zach]

I refuse.

[Alex]

Hey, by the way, speaking of Harem anime, Vegapunk's hair stylist says hello. Opp. I'm sure it got addressed in the recap, but Summers has a line that had me cackling, but also saying, summers is a Blue sky user in 2025 and it was the baby game for Babies Lion. I was hoping for a translation explanation on this. Love y'.

[Zach]

All.

[Alex]

Love the show. Keep up the fantastic job.

[Stephen Paul]

Well, I guess it was a good thing I didn't mention that yet. Yeah, that was. So the line that he says is. What does he say? Let me get the page open. Yeah, so when he says, like, we basically won already, it's too easy. So when Japanese people talk about video games, when. When you beat a game in Japan, the verb that they use is clear. It's like clearing a game. I cleared the game, I cleared the level or whatever. That's what they always say. So when they're like, oh, yeah, all we have to do is take the. The. The painter rock and then we can return to the whole. You know, we can just like make our own rainbow there. And he's like, oh, so we've already cleared it. He's like, it's already clear. It's too easy. And he calls it a nuduge. So if you are up on Japanese gaming stuff, you may have heard of the term kusoge before, which is. Is like shit game. And it's basically just like any. Any really crappy game. It's called kusoge. I know there's people that. That definitely are way into that and like finding videos of just like really horrible, you know, primarily old games. But so there's a bunch of other terms that are sort of similar to that. Like a kamige is like a. It literally means God game, but that's like a masterpiece. And I recently heard of Shinigay, which would be like dying game. That's apparently that's what they call like Dark Souls games. So it's just a game where you die a lot. And so new to nuduge is like lukewarm game. So it's basically just like. It's way too easy, it's too soft. And so that was my version of that is baby game for babies.

[Alex]

It's fantastic. One of my favorite things to say ever.

[Zach]

It is.

[Alex]

So I was very tickled when I.

[Zach]

Read that line stuck out as one of my favorites from the chapter. Yeah.

[Alex]

Reverse eye patch for eyes says. Hey Opers. Okie dokie. Loki. Has Loki been covering his eyes since he was a kid? That makes my heart go doki doki. So if you combine him and Gunko, you just have a mummy face with a nose. Do you think that maybe Loki has some ridiculous observation hockey due to his impossibly self imposed blindness? Is that why he called Luffy? He called that Luffy would take him out with gear. Wait a second. He didn't say gear. Three isn't the second gear mistake in this arc? Boy, Oda better get his gears in order. Wow.

[Zach]

So I think we discussed that he didn't even like do anything Luffy. So I don't think he geared up at all.

[Steve]

It was a little love tap.

[Zach]

Yeah. Just a little poop.

[Alex]

A little boop. I do like the notion that if you combine him and Gunka, you just have a mummy face with the nose.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Alex]

That's an excellent. That's excellent character.

[Zach]

That is. That is a really good character design here.

[Alex]

Easy to cosplay too. Straw hat. Rigby. A lot of bandages. Hey Opp. Or toilet paper. Hey Opp. Since we've been on Elbaf, the actual scale of everything has sort of broken my brain. We know roughly how tall giants can get. We know Loki is Aura's size. And we've seen the giants walking in and around the building they have built. And we've seen how the scale of the actual tree. Just Dwarves, everything on it. The after mentioned giants and their buildings. It makes me wonder how big the actual planet One Piece is is set on.

[Zach]

Is.

[Alex]

Is the tree just protruding out into space like the tree in Dragon Ball Z? Colon, the Tree of Might. Or is the scale of the One Piece world such that it looks like a regular land mass? I know there's nothing really regular about OP and Oda is not incredibly consistent with his scaling. But what we've seen in Elbaf, the scale of the tree and everything else seems relatively consistent. Any thoughts?

[Zach]

I think.

[Steve]

I know giants and scale and all that. But it would have to be very, very tall for it to be seen from space.

[Zach]

Yeah. Like it would have to be insane. Like it would have to be the size of a country. Like not just like it would have to be the size of a country. Yeah. Like well, not a continent. I'm just like trying to think on Earth. Like how large would something. How many miles. You could probably see like how many miles the atmosphere is. And that's how tall it would have to be. And I'm sure we're gonna have a Vivre card or something one day that shows the height of that tree. It might even go into space in the one piece world, like for Otis Cannon, because the astral plane or whatever.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that would be, that would be an interesting choice. But yes, with the way that it's shown, it doesn't seem like, I mean, I guess you would have to get up all the way up there for it to actually see like outer space and what.

[Zach]

So it's 6200 miles and to. For me to get to LA, I think is less than that.

[Stephen Paul]

What is, what is 60?

[Zach]

The, the atmosphere. Sorry. Oh, contact. So the, the height of the atmosphere from surface to the, to the top, which is if it were to protrude into space would have to be at least that, that tall miles from New York to LA, it's 2445. So it would, that's how tall it would. That's insane. It would not be that Elbaf even, even stood on its. I mean again, I don't think ODA and scaling is really a consistent thing and we talked about a little this week and we've talked about about a lot, so we'll see. I mean again, they're, they come in on rainbows. Like I'm going to be loose with my scientific. Gotcha. What's next, Alex?

[Alex]

You mean what's last? Yes, this is the last one. And this is in reference to, by the way, the. On the Atro staff account on Instagram and Twitter. The, the color spread. The color spread video that shows the, the process. SNP says, hey, Op, what is it with Oda? He almost joined another giant Nami in the color spread again. Does he have a giant fetish? Now? If you look at, if you watch the video, literally like the first second or two, you do see a giant woman somewhere in there. And I wondered if it was Nami or maybe it was Shirahoshi.

[Stephen Paul]

I mean, let's be honest. He turned himself into a buttman for egghead. So like he could absolutely be turning himself into a giantess man.

[Zach]

For he has no shame about what he feels about things and he makes it very obvious.

[Alex]

I appreciate that he's not only horny on Main, but he's, he likes to mix it up as to how horny he is on Maine.

[Steve]

It's like, it's like, it's like seasonal, you know, it's like the McRib.

[Alex]

Yeah, man, I thought the McRib went away. No, it's back again.

[Stephen Paul]

He's back. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah, let's get away from that and let's run away from Giant Nami and head over. Over to Stephen. Where are we going?

[Stephen Paul]

We will go to the. Oh God. What is it really called?

[Zach]

Really?

[Stephen Paul]

The Subreddit Archipelago.

[Zach]

Thank you.

[Stephen Paul]

Jeez, I'm literally looking at that. Yeah, it's. I was thinking of blue sky and blue Skype. Yeah. And all that. No, we are on [e-mail] R One Piece podcast. Just a couple questions here. First one from Amiibo hunter who says, hey, opposite after the SGS and the fruit reveal, are there any plans to change Killingham's name to fit with the Kirin theme better? It's not like he knew. It's not like he knew what his fruit would be since birth when his parents named him. Unless the celestial dragons have devil fruits planned out for certain families, etc. Like passing down the family fruit. Boy.

[Zach]

I do hate. Oh, go ahead. You're so good.

[Stephen Paul]

Sorry, am I the only one feeling underwhelmed by Sommers power Thorns? I know Oda will find some cool, creative ways to use it, but we've seen Luffy smash through Krieg's steel spike shield and use hockey to negate blades in the past, so I'm skeptical how much of a threat these three will be to the crew. Thank you all, as always. Keep up the great work.

[Zach]

There's a few things. So with the Killingham in the name, I always find it really annoying when the name of a person is the power that they have, because it does make no sense whatsoever. So I'm fine if it has nothing to do with it, but it does. It's a pun and I think it's gettable if you.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's. That's basically what I said last week on the sgs, which I know you said you had not heard yet, so. Because Greg. Greg had that. That opinion too. That, that is like, why. Why didn't you just call him Cunningham? And I said, well, I think it sounds. It's going to sound and look better this way. And it doesn't necessarily negate the reference. You know, there are some sued. I was going to say, like, you know, Zorro's name is based partially on Francois Lalona, who is a French pirate. And that's not at all what his name is spelled like, but that is still part of the DNA of where his name came from. So, you know, I don't think that, like, you have to have the thing named exactly after the other thing, for it to still be a reference and to still be fun and have its own, you know, sort of its own life and character of its own.

[Zach]

The other. To the other point, Stephen, about Summer's power being lame, I don't really think it's that important that these people are formidable. I mean, given Luffy's current status, I think it's just more the menace and like the, like going on in the background. The stuff with the kids and the. And like, what is this bigger plot happening behind the scenes and they're kind of just more agents of that.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, it's like, sure, they're not. They might not be formidable to him or like some of the crew, but to like regular people that are gonna be in trouble.

[Zach]

Like, they're like regular giants.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I like. I mean, I think thematically it works really well. Like, yeah, he was given the whole villain speech, his monologue, this chapter, and I think that's. That's a very effective kind of character building. So, yeah, I don't, I don't look at it as like, oh, no, you know, a guy number four on the, you know, villain managerie of this other group is not cool enough. I. That's not really a concern to me. But you know, I think he, oda can do some fun stuff with this that really makes this guy a bastard and I think that's fun to see.

[Zach]

Agreed.

[Stephen Paul]

The other comment on Reddit is from Low AD8027 says, hey, Opp, I hate baseball. I'm not going to read the rest of this comment then. No, I hate baseball, but I live in Seattle. Thinking of taking one for the team so I can come back and report about my experience. But also the shirt looks kind of cool. Cheers. I am depressed, but you guys make me laugh and smile every week.

[Zach]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Stephen Paul]

You're welcome.

[Zach]

They always recommend one piece podcast over therapy and prescription medications to everyone.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, it's cheaper.

[Zach]

It's for sure. Yeah. Even if you're a Patreon subscriber. No, but seriously, thank you. I'm glad. I'm always happy to hear comments like that. You know.

[Stephen Paul]

You know what?

[Zach]

I was Mariner shirt. Oh, yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

You know what? Always cheers. Cheers me up. Going to see a game.

[Zach]

Sorry. I'm sorry I stepped on your joke. God, it's just weird to go to mlb.com and see one Piece night. They could have done a Marines based thing and I think it would have been really fun with the Mariners.

[Steve]

They gotta go for mass appeal.

[Zach]

The shirt is okay.

[Steve]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you. Zach. I know you're clamoring for a Daryl Strawberry.

[Alex]

Vice Admiral Daryl.

[Zach]

Oh, shit. I am clamoring for that now.

[Steve]

Oh, yeah, they don't.

[Zach]

They.

[Steve]

Sorry, they don't.

[Zach]

But with Daryl Strawberry with the. I was gonna say they don't make.

[Steve]

Them that tall also.

[Zach]

Come on, Mets. What the are you doing? Get. Get a one piece night going.

[Steve]

Can I talk about sports.

[Zach]

Again?

[Steve]

I saw like, another stupid thing of people just like, you know, getting stupid and raging over. Are you kidding, Guy? It was like, apparently the New York Mets are selling a helmet full of hot dogs. I take. First of all, that rules. Hold on.

[Zach]

Is that what you're posting?

[Steve]

First of all, the bucket it was in didn't even actually look like a baseball helmet. And then I look. I immediately look at the logo and I'm like, I could tell none of you motherfuckers have ever watched a sport because that's not the New York Mets logo.

[Zach]

What was.

[Steve]

Kind of looked like it, but then like it was an upside down N. And then there was like a whole nother letter or shape in there. There was like an arrow in there. And I'm like, oh, that's.

[Mike Patton]

That's Nathan's, the New York hot dog.

[Zach]

It might be. Nathan's are fantastic.

[Alex]

Yeah, they plump when you cook them. No, wait, that's ballpark.

[Zach]

Yeah, Nathan's are the one with the crinkly fries. And they have to put the calories on these things. And now I know the fries are way worse than the hot dogs for you anyway. Any more subreddit, that's all. All right, so it's time we take a ride up the knock up stream. Get knocked up.

[Stephen Paul]

Get knocked up. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. Get up again. Do some Blue Skypiea. Blue Skypiea is the hashtag where you're using on BlueSky, the only social media website where I don't feel terrible about myself. Let's start. That's. That's their motto. That's their motto.

[Alex]

Do you think that, like, there's a little. Like there's a little phenomenon that happens right before the knockup stream called the feel Upstream?

[Zach]

First question comes from kkrp who says, does anyone else get the feeling King Harold died because of Summers and his love even equal death thorn powers that line parents hug their kids tight thorns and all. Seems like foreshadowing about how Loki killed his dad, quote unquote killed his dad. I kind of like the idea that it is foreshadowing.

[Stephen Paul]

I mean, I Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I don't think so either. But I. I do think that there's, you know, there's. There's definitely an artful coincidence in placing the. That scene in this chapter where, you know, where we are starting to find out more about Harold and his son. So. But I don't know. I feel like they. They. Oda would have let on a little bit more. There would have been some other foreshadowing thing if it was like back here, you know, that sort of thing.

[Zach]

Carlos says hello there, Opp. A couple months back, Oda answered a series of Lore questions. The first had to do with how Luffy is able to manifest stuff in Gear five, with Oda saying that it was a gateway into Nika's fantasy. Could Killingham's power be related to Luffy gear 5? I think I would add it maybe like in the same class, like in the same kind of genus as. As Luffy's.

[Stephen Paul]

As they're both sleep duds. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was in the. That was the thing that they did in one or more issues when he was on break last time. And that's actually in volume 111. They did put that in the back of the. The volume. So that's fun. So we'll get to see that in the. In that series of questions that he did about. About Lore. Stuff that doesn't have anything to do with the answer to this question, but I just wanted to point that out.

[Zach]

Any other comments? I. I think that's totally possible is my answer to that. Scott says, ahoy hoy. Opposite. What's under Loki's eye bandages. He's wearing them even in the flashback. Possible Cyclops. Hey, this could be either Cyclops again. Is it the mythical one from Greek or which. Which ancient culture created the Cyclops? I assume Greek.

[Alex]

Yeah, it's in the Odyssey.

[Zach]

The Odyssey. That's. I thought Homer's Odyssey. Right?

[Alex]

Soon to be a motion. Major motion picture from Seriously for no one.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, I'm very excited for that. Yeah.

[Zach]

Interesting.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah.

[Alex]

It's okay if you're not casting a single great person.

[Mike Patton]

Oh, that sucks.

[Alex]

It stars Matt Damon.

[Zach]

Well, you can't get Greeker than Matt Damon, Especially the one from Team America.

[Alex]

Hey, that's an insult to everybody Greek.

[Zach]

I was more of an insult to Matt Damon, I thought. But okay, I was trying to insult Matt Damon.

[Stephen Paul]

I'm definitely leaning more on the side that Loki's a member of the Laser Eye tribe. For sure.

[Alex]

I like it.

[Zach]

I do like the idea that there's a tribe of people with laser eyes that they can't control.

[Alex]

Yeah, they're extinct.

[Steve]

Or do you think they all just got laser eye surgery?

[Zach]

Oh, get out of here. There he is.

[Steve]

Well, you know, with. You know and.

[Zach]

Yeah, Steve.

[Steve]

Lovable mascots, you know.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Help me out, home movies fans.

[Zach]

Oh, oh, the. The eyeball.

[Alex]

Cuckoo and Cuckoo And Ping pong.

[Zach]

Ping pong and Cuckoo. Yeah.

[Alex]

No, it's not cuckoo. It's something else.

[Zach]

This is just a discussion for Maddie, damn it. That's all it's for. That's.

[Alex]

No, it's Tuku. Right. And Ping Pong.

[Zach]

Something like Tuku. A ping pong. You're silly. Oh, what did he say? You're stupid.

[Stephen Paul]

It's too late.

[Zach]

Go watch home movies.

[Stephen Paul]

The already made angry tweets at us.

[Zach]

Which I think is still on. Max. It has not yet been Zaslov too did. I hope I didn't just put that into the ether.

[Stephen Paul]

It's just too obscure for him to even notice it.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think that's what it is.

[Mike Patton]

Yeah, it's no Looney Tunes.

[Steve]

Oh, you mean like Eyeballs?

[Zach]

There it is. Two hit good says. I think Harold might have ripped out his horns after seeing how Loki was acting with Hiredin. Especially if he heard Loki talking about impure blood or whatever else. I still think Harold's a jackass. I haven't. I have no reason to think that.

[Steve]

But at first I thought instead of Loki. I thought you said.

[Zach]

Said woken. Well, no, that's the plot.

[Steve]

Oh.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, I do like that. The idea that he's just so mad. It's like. It's like Homer strangle response, but he's just ripping his own horns out instead. The damn boy.

[Steve]

No, it's like the Treehouse of Horror, right? Where it's the. It's the parody of the. The Twilight Zone when Bart keeps, like, yes. Like, psychic abilities.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Steve]

Homer just walks in. He's like, just ready to kill him.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Hey, everybody. I'm a big stupid moron. Ugly face and a big butt. My butt smells. I like to kiss my own butt. It. Well, so I was watching, like, skimming through, I guess, the latest One Piece anime, the, you know, Fisherman island arc or whatever. And at the end is Luffy, you know, giving the blood to Jinbei. And I thought to myself, oh, that's woke blood. Like, he's getting. Luffy's getting woke blood from. From Jinbei.

[Zach]

Last note here is from Retro Neko Art. Who says I love that Hashtag's name not gonna lie. Just had to put that one out there. But there was a lot of contention around the hashtag, and there continues to be. But we know what we're not calling it and we're not even gonna say. So that's the end of Blue skypiea and Peace Together. Why don't we round off?

[Alex]

Why don't we?

[Zach]

Why not, huh?

[Alex]

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[Zach]

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[Alex]

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[Stephen Paul]

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[Steve]

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[Zach]

This has been episode 861 of the One Piece podcast for March 24th. Thank you all for coming on the show. Very fun one. Once again, thanks to Ed, who also had to take off after the manga recap. Next week we have Marianne, Voice of Flompe and many others in the world of dubbing. She's gonna be returning Next week. And after that. We have Dr. Gomez joining us on April 6th. So fun shows. Excited. Hopefully the manga's on for both those weeks, too. Before we go, though, Alex, where could people find you?

[Alex]

At home with a baby. But if you want to find me on the Internet, I'm on blue skydecks. Exclamation. I will post there occasionally. And yeah, I'm so excited.

[Zach]

I won't be the only dad host.

[Alex]

I know.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's going to be exciting. We both talk endlessly about children, our children and for everyone else.

[Alex]

Indeed.

[Zach]

Yeah, it'll be great.

[Alex]

This happens when you get older, ladies and gentlemen. Sometimes you decide that you want to change your life dramatically by adding to your family a little thing that runs around. Poops will eventually develop a personality. But for the first few months, poops and sleeps sack of potatoes and eats sacks of potatoes.

[Zach]

No, that's not what I'm saying. Don't feed your baby sacks of potatoes.

[Alex]

Jeez. Child services. I hope you're listening to this episode. Zach just admitted that he feeds his baby.

[Zach]

Don't feed my baby potatoes.

[Alex]

As if this was Ireland circa.

[Zach]

How dare you.

[Steve]

Stupid, stupid. Babies need the most potatoes.

[Alex]

All right. Anyway, I. I don't look forward to being on hiatus, but, yeah, in a way I do because I get to.

[Zach]

Have a kid and you're gonna. Yeah, Yeah. I want you. I want you to enjoy it and not have to think about the podcast.

[Alex]

I'm going to read one piece to him before bedtime.

[Zach]

I usually just would sing one piece. To be fair. Eliza did always like bink sake. And the five words of it I remember.

[Alex]

Wow.

[Zach]

Yo ho ho.

[Steve]

Yo ho.

[Zach]

You got him. You got him. You got him. And we are. Which I remember more of, but still not as much as Alex, who I'm pretty sure could do the entire prologue by heart. Yeah, yeah. You'll have to listen to another episode to hear that. Steve. Where could people find you?

[Steve]

Hey, you could find me on the Internet, Steve. Yerko.com Social media is, you know, Steve Yurko is most of my usernames. Listen to me on the 4Kids flashback. Listen to me on Prozd plays games over on YouTube. And I did a twitch stream the other day with someone. We did a bunch of sporkles that will be posted on his regular YouTube channel. There's one where we try to name as many pre timeskip one piece characters as possible in 20 minutes.

[Zach]

Oh, is that why you posted that? Like, if I was born for one thing. Yeah.

[Steve]

Spoilers. I blow some minds.

[Zach]

No, this doesn't surprise me. This does not surprise. If anyone listened to this podcast for any period of time and heard the trivia segment. Steve, I think usually is pretty dominating, especially on the character ones.

[Alex]

He is Mr. One Piece Mania of this podcast.

[Zach]

He is, I think, the closest to that we have here.

[Alex]

I will I was the first character that you shouted out to Steve, Dr. Fishbone in no devil worshipper number three, the blue gory.

[Steve]

It was Mashikaku.

[Zach]

That I believe. That I believe.

[Stephen Paul]

Nice.

[Steve]

You'll just have to tune in to find out.

[Alex]

Come on board and find out.

[Zach]

Come on board and find out. Wow. Full circle once again. Yeah, check all that out. I'm excited to watch that now. And I'm gonna be yelling at Steve probably about some character you forgot. Although I don't really think there's any character you'd forget. Steven, where could people find you?

[Stephen Paul]

I am on Blue sky at stevenpault bgsguy Social and you can check out all the stuff I am doing for Shonen Jump and Viz. We got weekly One Piece and Akane Banashi chapters. We got Bi weekly Trillion Game chapters and monthly Shoha Shoten chapters. So yep, it's a pretty full slate of simulpub material for you to enjoy. And I certainly do enjoy working on them. So check them out on the Shonen Jump and Manga plus apps if you're curious.

[Zach]

Mike Patton, I know you have the most exciting of news coming up. What is it?

[Mike Patton]

Oh, I'm actually not going to talk about the really good post. I got that all the way. I do actually want to talk about something exciting that I was a part of recently. Recently I over the summer I boarded animated and did animation supervision on a music video for an artist who I've been a fan of for a long time. Nick, let's go. It's called Reset. It was me and 20 other animators. We animated the music video. It was a ton of fun. So I recommend go check that out. Go to my website patentpending.org where I have added a ton of behind the scenes stuff for was a blast to work on and the video is getting really good reception. People like it so that's been very nice. So I would love it if people went and checked that out. Give it a listen. The song's great. I've been pumping it for a while and other than that you could find me on Bluesky at Patentpending Bsky Social. And if you go there this Thursday, March 27th at 8:00pm Eastern Time, I'm gonna be making a really good post and I think that everybody should check it out.

[Zach]

Thank you, Mike. Look forward to that. I'm sure it'll be exactly as you promise. I have no reason to think it won't be. You could check out the podcast@one piece podcast.com we have articles every week about the newest chapter. So if you haven't gotten enough One Piece discussion. Kirsten Carrie, of many outlets and also our composer is. Yes, Mike, is there something else?

[Mike Patton]

I'm so sorry, I forgot to say one more thing.

[Zach]

Oh no, go for it.

[Mike Patton]

If you like the COVID to if you like the image for this podcast, go check. Go check out Doman Dawn. It's a podcast where they take Simpsons characters and give them and then cast them as One Piece characters. And I've been doing the COVID art for it for a couple years now and it's been fun as hell to do. So you can check that out. Doman Stone.

[Zach]

Thank you. And also thank you Mike for doing the image this week. And Steve finally gets a vacation where he just sits here and talks about One Piece instead of also drawing it.

[Alex]

Sit here and look at a computer screen.

[Steve]

Thanks for the reminder.

[Zach]

One Piece podcast.com please subscribe to us at patreon.com/one piece podcast. I was talking about Kirsten Carrie. Amazing articles. Check those out every week. We also have the entire End of One Piece feature from Greg, which again is worth mentioning. He put 80 something pages of hard work into that. Available exclusively@one piece podcast.com I believe it's Slash the end of One Piece. Something along those lines could also check us out wherever you get your social media. Blue Sky One Piece Podcast Calm Instagram, Facebook, the other one One Piece Podcast. The rest Discord, Discord GG Slash One Piece Podcast. Skype I think officially merged with teams or something. We have gotten voicemails and I have been saving them for a rainy day in which there's no manga chapter. So I'm hoping we could do call in segment or show. So feel free to continue sending those in. I get the calls to my phone for some reason, so I know when they're happening. So they're. They're definitely. They're either spam or actual calls. So that phone number is 347497. Maggie Magic. That phone number again. 347-497-6254. Colony time with your questions, comments, theories, or you know, if you're a Canadian, please let us know if that's how. If you buy your blood in bags or curtains, if they call blood something weird there. Like Smarties. Just, you know, we want to know. Exactly.

[Steve]

Americans have Smarties too?

[Zach]

No, but Smarties and M M's are the opposite. Or the Smarties are M M's. I think in Canada or something like that. Yeah, it's so backward. It's. Or forward. Not quite.

[Alex]

I would say forward.

[Zach]

Forward, probably.

[Alex]

Canada is a better country than the United States.

[Zach]

Yeah, I mean, everyone agrees, but that. Yes. Anyway, we all just got very serious there. Yeah, Canada is great. They have poutine there. I hope you help. You all enjoyed this week's episode of the podcast. We'll see you next week for our recap of 1144. Until then, my name is Zach.

[Steve]

My name is Steve.

[Alex]

My name is Baby Daddy Alex.

[Mike Patton]

Whoa.

[Zach]

We'll see you next week, everyone. Goodbye.

[Alex]

Bye. Bye.

[Steve]

Hey, Daddy.

[Zach]

Hey, Baby Daddy Krillin.

[Alex]

Hi.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Steve]

Oh, no.

[Zach]

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