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And my name is Ed.
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And my name is Alex.
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And on today's show we have very special guest. He is the translator for One Piece in Shonen, Jump and Manga. Plus Stephen Paul is with us. How's it going, Stephen?
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A little under the weather. Hopefully I'm not too nasally.
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What weather? You live in San Diego, man.
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Nice one. You got me. But yeah, no, I've been.
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There's no weather out there. I know this for a fact.
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I've been, I've been visiting with a lot of family recently and had quite a week actually. Lots of driving people around and going to hospitals and things like that, which is, yeah, kind of wild. So who knows where I picked this up. But you know, it's been. I've been sick a lot this summer, so I will hopefully be over it pretty soon.
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Hope everyone's all right. Ken o' Connor joins us once again. How's it going, Ken?
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Hey. I'm back two weeks in a row. New record. You guys can't get rid of me.
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Yeah, I don't know why this keeps happening.
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I know. I'm so sorry.
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And we have returning to the show golfer gear. How's it going?
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Golf going great. Going great. Appreciate you having me back.
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Yeah, no, it was a lot of fun having you last time. And we don't have to do. I don't have to put you through the fire anymore and ask who your favorite person is and all that. Unless those have changed in the last few weeks. So before we get started, really not much going on in the one piece world. For the first time in a while. But you could check us out@patreon.com we have a sticker of the Month club for those who want to join. It's $12 a month. You get to vote on the sticker. Last month the Triforks won and that was our, I guess the Legend of Zelda hat tip kind of thing that Steve drew a cool image for. Before that we were doing the Loki next to the thousand Sunny on his little inner tube. But this week on the podcast we're going to be talking about Loki's flashback, which I'm sure is how you all will think of this in the future. We're going to be going through chapter 1159, so we're going to do that in a moment. We have some piece together the our anime recap is off this week. We'll be back next week with that. But why? Why am I wasting time? Let's get started.
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Shortest intro in you record Short intro.
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That was really short.
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Nothing happened.
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Nothing left on the floor there. Shit.
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Okay, you didn't mention the soap.
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Shut up. The freaking.
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Our listeners aren't going to want that anyway.
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True.
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Delaney is going to really Bathing Our listeners love bathing.
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I don't like bathing. I like.
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No one likes bathing. Okay, shout out to I guess is what I mean. This is the manga recap for chapter 1159, the island of Fate. You can read this chapter and all chapters as soon as they come out from shonenjump.viz.com or mangaplus Shueisha Co JP you could get them in all their Stephen Paul translated glory there. Why would you want to miss that? So Ed, do you want to go through the author comment first?
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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We got the author comments are posted early this week to viz.comblog and ODA has to say One Piece Day has grown into such an amazing event. Enjoy the family fun. I guess I don't know what happened on One Piece Day this year.
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This. This year was the inyaki. Sorry Alex. Yeah.
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Oh no. I just thought I like very funny way to to word that.
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Yes.
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Family fun.
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Yeah, family fun.
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Bring the whole family to Japan.
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Uncle Oda's family fun bag.
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Oh, my God. He comes out wearing. Wearing a bag on his head so people can't, like, recognize him. And also hot fries and hot fish.
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They'd be fish sticks, I think.
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Hot fish sticks?
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Yeah.
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Do fish sticks exist in Japan?
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That's a good question.
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Is it like everything. Tempura and everything? Like fried fish?
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You could say, like, shrimp. Tempura is a type of fish stick.
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I guess that's true.
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American tempura.
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This is totally the. Is a hot dog a sandwich or as a taco, a hot dog.
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It is.
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It is. It is.
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A taco is not a hot dog. Who even says that? That's not even a thing.
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Shrimp are the insects of the sea.
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Yeah, no, it's a hot dog taco. Is that what you mean?
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No, it's a hot dog sandwich.
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So shemp tempura is an insect stick. There, we've solved it. Yep.
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Anyway, tempura is way better. Anyway, we're not biased here that we like everything in Japan, So that's the comment. What? We do a podcast about an anime series. We can't. We can't pretend. Ed, what's going on in the COVID page?
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Right. Let me pull that up.
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Sorry. There you go.
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Ogre Child, Yamato's golden harvest. Surrogate Pilgrimage, Volume 41. Time to munch on apples and return.
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To the flower capital. So no more about Moria. Oh, Steven, I'm going to just throw this straight to you because I know you've been sitting on it. Do you have a hot take or Moria thing that you wanted to go.
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Through from last week's My Moria thing?
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Oh, that.
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I mean, do you want to just derail this immediately?
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Yes.
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Look, we had. We had the shortest intro we've ever had, so we should derail.
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This cover story has been sort of confusing enough to me as it is.
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Okay.
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Yeah. For example, when it said time to munch, I read that at first as Munich, and I was like, what's going on?
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Wow, we all have issues here. But I do want to say before actually, we get into the. The Moria thing before we derail it. I do like Ulti's chewing, and her mask is just like the.
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Yeah.
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Her face, her jaw just looks like it was, like, dislocated and moved.
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I mean, that's how I ate during the pandemic. I don't know about you guys.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. Just don't chew gum into your mask. That I don't know.
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She's not quite wearing one of those horse feed bags.
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You're thinking of Speed, I think.
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Altimo's family Feedback.
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Wow.
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Oh, my God. I'll write those both down, but I don't like it.
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Yeah, write it down.
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Go ahead, Steven. Derail our discussion, please.
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Okay, all right. Can I be mean? Can I say something really mean?
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Sure.
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Just aim it towards me. Then people will be okay with it.
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What? All right, Ken.
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I wish Morya stayed dead.
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Who is that mean to?
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I like Moriya, so I like Absalom.
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It's mean to Absalom.
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So I'm gonna say the meanest thing I've probably ever said in this podcast. 15 years of being on this podcast, and when I saw the. So the first thing I thought when I saw the Kozuki Moria thing was like, oh, it was Gekko Moria all along. And then I realized, oh, wait, no, that's Kozuki. So, okay, now I see what he did that he flipped the kanji on and stuff. But after I had time to digest that and kind of gather my thoughts, I think my conclusion for the. The. The reveal, I, I, My, I. My thought was like, man, I bet the Kozuki Moria reveal hits so hard if you're stupid. I was like, wow, that is the.
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Meanest thing you have said in 15 years. You're right.
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So, like, we're all right here looking.
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At you, and you just call all of us stupid.
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I mean, if you all thought it was cool, then I guess I am. But, yeah. So, like, I just thought.
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I just thought, Ken, how could you.
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The. The idea that. That, like, of all the villains that Oda chose to, like, like, rehabilitate somehow or to, like, to, like, oh, my God, he has, like, the. This, like, crazy backstory. This. This tragic backstory that's going to totally recontextualize the way you. The idea that it was Moria of all villains is. Is kind of crazy to me because he's, like. He's, like a half step above Caesar clown on the, like. Like, he's just a piece of shit. Like, this guy is not. He's not deep. Like, there's no. There's no, like, lazy and cruel. Yeah, like. Like, he wasn't. He didn't ever strike me. He wasn't an interesting villain in the way that, like, you know, Katakuri is, like, an interesting. Like, Katakuri is a villain where you're like, okay, this guy, you know, he's. He's, like, driven by a certain purpose that you understand, and it, like, he's a good brother. Right. It's tough, but, like, Luffy has to win, you know, because we're. We're on opposite sides. Or even Lucci, where it's like, okay, he's. He's a bastard. He's evil, but he's like, you know, there's a certain grudging respect that you have. Like, Moria is not a respectable character in Thriller.
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Meanwhile, Katakuri is reduced to being a background Labubu these days.
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Yeah, exactly. And so, like, the idea that. That Moria of all characters was like, you know, I don't know, just, like, why. What is his connection to Want? Like, why would he be from Wano? I just don't. I don't see, like, that it's not the missing piece that would have explained everything. Like, he's, he's.
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But he's from the West Blue. They did say that in the COVID story.
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Maybe, maybe Oda's trying to say that, like, he was, like, adopted or like, he was given, like, you know, it's like an honor degree or something from the Kozuki College or something like that. I don't know. But, like, I love that patch. He hasn't anything to do with, with Wano. Like, like, spiritually, he's a fucking. He's like a Tim Burton, like, Beetlejuice character.
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And I don't see what the issue is here.
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That sounds great, the way that Oda, like, reveals this, that it's like, it's so subtle and it's, like, so, so understated that it's like, you know, oh, it's hidden away in the, in the, like, there's definitely people who just completely missed that. They just completely skipped over. It's like, I feel like it's like if Oda walked up to us and was like, hey, guys. Like, I didn't actually, I didn't draw it in the story, but, like, I just wanted you to know that, like, there's a character in one piece who has the most tragic backstory. He's, like, the most emotional backstory. And you didn't know this, but, like, actually, it's, It's Butchy from the Black Cat Pirates.
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Soul.
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Soul. Who fucking cares?
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Like, why, why do we care about that? That makes the Kuro arc so much better.
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His full name is Kazuki. Butchie.
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No, because Kazuki D. Bocchi. It's Davey Bocchi.
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Like, Davey D. Bocchi. I, I'm gonna, like, I, I, I'm gonna say this, and I know, I know you will know in your heart of Hearts that it is true. And like, this is the kind of.
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Listener or this is.
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Yes, everybody. This is the kind of thing that Peter Jackson wrote to pad the Hobbit into three movies. Like, this is the kind of like. Like, we didn't need to know this. This isn't really very interesting. And. Yeah, no, it's just. It's just connecting dots in a very haphazard way that I. I am not impressed by.
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Wow.
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And yeah, that is.
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That was a spicy take, I think.
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Scolding hot, honestly.
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Yeah.
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I didn't listen to the episode last week because I'm a bad co host.
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Yes, you are.
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Did they. Did you guys talk about how Doflamingo tried to put it or, you know, tried to kill.
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Kill him.
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Moria. Because of orders on high. I mean. Yeah, that's why, like, maybe he can read on the glyphs.
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That's. That's for the heir of the. The show. And that's like Odin.
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Odin, yeah.
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Right. Yeah.
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Doesn't know it. I think even because he was too young. I think they said something like my father.
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My take on the. I think that the kanji flipping around is kind of interesting. But other than that, like. Yeah, I think the reason for doing this is to give Jinbei's Japanese voice actor a higher pay grade because then he gets to consistently voice two characters because he also.
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Oh, that was Jim bae.
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Wow.
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You know, I don't think I ever put two and two together there.
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Yeah, I think it's like, you know, it's the shell company of trying to get voice actors more work or something.
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Can I say my spicy takes here, which might be actually, maybe as are more spicy. My opinions of Buggy are closer to your opinions of Gecko Moria. I think what I. Look, I like Buggy, but he should be. He should be surface level. We shouldn't get. I don't think he needs backstory. I think he is funnier and better when he is just the guy coasting like that.
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I kind of agree.
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I don't know. I don't know. I.
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What kind of tragic backstory do you think Buggy has, Zack?
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I think he does have one. At this point, all bets are apexes. It could be anybody.
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He was born from an egg.
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He was born from an egg. Yeah, we did say that last week.
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He's not.
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He was out of the giant egg. Alex.
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Come out of the egg. He didn't come out of the egg because the egg is still there when he's on the ship.
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It doesn't. That's A different egg.
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It's a different egg.
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Look at the eggs. They're slightly different. The polka dots are in different places.
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Jesus Christ. This is like that weird fan theory that people have about Star Wars Episode 4, where there's like a secret bigger Luke named Luke.
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No, it. There's the Georgia banks being secretly evil.
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Oh, and knowing the Taijutsu or whatever it is.
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Yes.
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Flails around.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, anyway, this takes Stephen, because it was a really good one.
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Yeah, I was.
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I was. It was very funny and good. But I. I think. I think you were right in that it is totally something ODA has a story about but never really intends or probably won't share. Because this. What this reminds me of is the send your Pink flashback.
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Yeah. 100 in that. Something that was supposed to be in an SBS and then he just put it in the. Like.
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No, it wasn't even. Yes, but it was that an editor came up and said, oh, I like this character. What's his story about? And Otis said, it's like, oh, you should totally just do that and put that in the story.
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No, do you know it? Like, a similar take would be like, hey, you know that. That part in beginning of NES Lobby when Jabra says that he struck out with Gatherin again and turns out gathering somebody really important down the line, like Buggy's mom or something.
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Oh, no, that. I kind of like that. I kind of suck.
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Oh, my God.
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I think. No, I. Okay, let's. Let's take a step back. One Piece is first and foremost a comedy, I think, like, in Oda's head, at least. Everything else aside, but in Oda's brain, I really think he thinks, like, comedy is first or second on, like, the list of importance in this series.
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Okay, I want. I want you to bring this up again during the chapter discussion at the very end because it's gonna come back around to my thoughts on the chapter, by the way. By the way, Zach, I'm really glad that you said this about Buggy because it means that people are gonna come with their pitchforks for you and not me.
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Leah, I really just did it. Alex, I know you're a new father. I need to make sure that you're not pitchforked right now. So I'm trying to land on the pitchfork for you. No, I love Buggy. Don't get me wrong. I just don't need a backstory for him in the way that, you know, that's all I was saying. And for Moria, I agree. I think the cool part for me Was the flipping of the characters.
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Yeah, I think that's kind of clever.
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I like wondering.
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Yeah, but it's like, it's clever like, oh, party of one. Han Solo. Then I guess that's your name. Like, it's that level of care of clever where you're like, okay, okay, I see what you did there. But it's not actually okay.
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So you think for sure did not plan anything around.
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There's no way. There's no fucking way, dude. Here's what happened. So, like, that was an Bo Burnham and real comedy.
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There's jokes and there's being clever with words.
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I. I feel like Otis set up a good amount. Like, there was the whole thing. The first time we heard Wanda was back in Thriller Bark. He had the body, he had the sword.
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Yeah.
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There was that random. Why did he go to Ringo to fight Kaido? Like, that was like, that was a really weird, like, why would he go to Wano? Like, okay, that's his hometown.
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D
Maybe there is enough. Maybe there's a connection. However, this also does seem to me like something that he. That somebody would write to him in SBS being like, hey, isn't it weird that Kozuki and Gekko are almost the same thing? You just got to flip them around. Isn't that weird? And then he, instead of publishing it, he's just like, ooh, this is good. I'm going to hide this right here.
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A
Yeah. I like this more than the Senior Pink flashback. I want to make that clear. As a. Not a big fan of that.
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B
Stepped over the bar.
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Yeah, I. I think it's fine. It really depends if and when. When it goes anywhere. I think like, this chapter, since this I'll segue. I. I think the current flashback. I am holding my full thoughts until the end for that kind of reason. Because it's very. I know. Alex.
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D
We're getting there.
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Wow. We are just. This is spicy. Take central tonight.
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We haven't even started talking about the chapter yet.
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How dare we talk about the chapter.
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Do we want to repeat apples?
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Because who doesn't love a nice crunchy apple?
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Before. Before we move on, I was afraid that they were eating the smile fruits. I zoomed on the apples. Oh, like all four of these people have devil fruit powers.
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D
Okay, that's funny.
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Yeah, that's a funny thought.
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I like pulling off to the side here with his silly hat and presumably holding, like, a sack of apples.
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D
He's.
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A
Yeah, he's.
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I did see a comment on Reddit.
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Yeah.
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That said, like, I don't know, if you look inside the sack. It kind of looks like there's like a fruit with a different pattern. Like it might be a devil fruit in there maybe. I don't know. That could just be like scribble shadow or something, but.
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Yeah, but otherwise it's just Ulti Yamasha.
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The fox is there.
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Onimaru.
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Yep, gang's all here.
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Did we know on Onimaru was around before this? I don't remember.
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I don't remember from last week anyway. Oh yeah, before we.
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Before was there previously, but she's not there now.
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Don't worry. We're never going to start the chapter, Alex. But please continue.
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I want to have one last word on this. Moria.
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Oh my God.
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D
No, no, no, no, no. Zach, I know that you're like cool with it and you like it, but I bet you that if it were Wednesday instead of Moira, you would be like totally adamant.
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No, there's no way that this could.
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Be that he could be important. This is bullshit. I don't like this face that you're making.
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Actually, I, I It depends on the execution of Wanze in particular. Like, of course you execute it. Yeah, no, him. That's fantastic. He sucks up poisonous pasta. This is a my pasta. Through my nose. Anyway, what I was going to say before I made that stereotypical accent is the Italian's the one I could do, right, Ken? Otherwise I'll blame you.
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Italian brain rot.
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Okay, yeah, Italian. Is that what Wednesday has? What was I gonna say? Oh, I was gonna say Ken. I do. The last thing I'll say Amoria is Ken, I think is right that there are a enough pieces to potentially make it interesting. But it really depends. I don't think it's like the coolest thing ever. I don't know if I said that last week. Please quote me if I did.
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C
Does fit in with him having his crew destroyed by Kaido, right?
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And also he has a lot of the people from Rocks. Well, no, that's a whole separate thing anyway. And Ryu, that whole thing. Yeah. Would imply he had some sort of wano connection. At least what that is is, you know, unclear.
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I think I would just like it. I would like it better if the gravestone just said like the, the stupid shithead who stole our dead bodies or something like that. Like, you know, I don't think Warrior.
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Is such a stupid. I think Moria is a much more interesting character than say, a Caesar Cl. Because Moria I actually think is interesting in the way I've come to like appreciate, believe it or not. Kuro a Little more as, like, the 401k villain I think I've talked about.
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C
Yes.
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A
Like, I could appreciate that he was just trying to retire and live a quiet life like a Jojo villain. But, like, Moria is similar in that he obviously used to be a guy with ambition, and he's. He represents the. What happens if your ambition is just completely eviscerated? And I think that's a really. Look, his character design is stupid, but, I mean, it's one piece. Like, we're gonna talk about stupid character designs hopefully in a minute when we're talking about Shanks and Shamrock's father. Yeah.
- [24:07]
C
Moria's got an ugly face and a big butt, and his butt smells, and he likes to smell his own butt.
- [24:12]
A
Yes, yes, that's all true.
- [24:14]
D
His name is Mr. Prince.
- [24:16]
B
Yeah. Moria's Tavern.
- [24:18]
A
Ed, what's going on in the first page of this chapter?
- [24:21]
C
20 minutes later, Pirate island fullaled 39 years ago. And we sort of pull back, and there's a. There's a commotion. Did you look everywhere? Dawn Marlin was on last night's security team. They've all been killed. So even Dawn Marlin couldn't keep her safe. It's unthinkable. Who could have done this?
- [24:44]
D
The sh. Now, there were oranges in the last chapter around him that's foreshadowing his death.
- [24:52]
C
And Rox comes in like, what did you say? And then Whitebeard's like, huh? Arashaki's been kidnapped. Back to the Oda box. The crime happened within a window of just a few hours. But without any clues to solve the mystery, pirates could only wail and gnash their teeth in anger. And that looks like Gloriosa in tears.
- [25:19]
B
Yeah. And don't forget the juxtaposition of no clues to solve the mystery, while Wang Xi is clearly gleefully counting a stack of bills.
- [25:31]
C
Yes, he is. I see that now.
- [25:35]
D
Yeah. Wonder who did it.
- [25:39]
E
Definitely Gloriosa.
- [25:40]
D
Oh, yeah, Right.
- [25:44]
C
And who is this in the second in the middle panel here?
- [25:48]
D
That schmuck in the middle?
- [25:50]
B
That's Roger tearing the.
- [25:52]
A
Yeah, Roger.
- [25:53]
C
Yeah, he said that's Roger. Damn it, Rocks. What are you doing over there? I'll tear you to pieces. And the news. We find out the news swiftly crossed the street. This the seas and Rayleigh reading the newspaper, sort of despondent. Like shaky smiles vanished from the faces of all the crestfallen people. And it was said that all economic activity around the world went stagnant for weeks.
- [26:20]
A
That made me laugh.
- [26:21]
B
Yeah.
- [26:22]
D
I thought that was very funny.
- [26:23]
A
That's a very funny line.
- [26:25]
D
Like if Taylor Swift got kidnapped, then.
- [26:29]
C
That'S it.
- [26:29]
A
I'm not doing the stock market anymore. I'm done. I'm done with stocks.
- [26:33]
B
She was kidnapped from her wedding. Wow. It's world News.
- [26:37]
A
Golfer's gonna. Yeah, go for it.
- [26:41]
F
We. We find ourselves at God Valley. And one year later, God Valley west blue. Oh, Garling, I'm so happy to see you. We see Garling in all of his wonderful design, standing over what looks to be a carriage and a woman leaning over it. I always believed you would come back. Shamrocks. Shanks, it's your father. We see the two babies reaching up. You had twins. They're adorable. Yes, and they're yours now. You can live here with me. Garling looks down at her. Oh, if they're living anywhere, it won't be here. This island will cease to exist soon.
- [27:18]
D
Huh?
- [27:19]
F
We see a bunch of ships pulling up to God Valley and I've already special ordered a wife who is befitting of me. All I have to do to make her mine is win this competition. Wife asks competition or his wife? His baby mama says competition. And then he straight up stabs her. Then we see the two babies just chilling there. She's got blood spurting all over the place. Garling says, begin the preparations. To a transponder snail say yes sir. Disembarking. Now we see the marines setting foot and we see the people of God Valley freaking out. The world government's navy ships are here. Yes. They've got the whole island surrounded. There's some wanted criminal in the island. Bring the children indoors. Use only tranquilizer rounds. Apprehend those who do not resist.
- [28:12]
E
I did. Like how last week I was talking about like, oh, like he's gonna come back and take the babies and the wife back to the. Like this whole thing is a ruse to get them all home. Half right, stabbed. The wife wants the babies, so. I'll take that.
- [28:26]
A
Alex, I know you have spicy takes this chapter.
- [28:28]
C
Other humans are disposable.
- [28:31]
A
This chapter I thought was effective.
- [28:33]
D
I don't have anything spicy here. I will say that. Good job, Steven. Because ah. Is exactly what a baby would say.
- [28:39]
B
Yes.
- [28:40]
A
Oh well, yeah, you've had a lot of. You've had a lot of baby practices.
- [28:46]
B
There's a lot of babies in this flashback.
- [28:49]
A
Oh, right. There was. It was the stuff with whose flashback this is. Sorry, Ken, please.
- [28:57]
E
Alright, continuing on, we have a young recruit. Lieutenant Commander. What is the purpose of this operation? It's training and you're in no position to ask questions, Rook. But sir. Platoon leader. What is this kid's problem? I'm sorry, sir. I'll give him a talking to.
- [29:15]
D
Oh.
- [29:16]
E
You there. What's happening? You have a bunch of people staring and freaking out trying to run away.
- [29:22]
D
Eek.
- [29:23]
E
Don't resist. Just stay put. Huh? And we have a family with guns aimed at them. And all the people of God Valley run for it. They're arresting everyone.
- [29:32]
D
But why?
- [29:34]
E
Good question. And then this young rook is like. They just look like normal civilians to me. Stop thinking individual thoughts. Only distract from the will of the group. Focus on completing the mission.
- [29:45]
C
But is that a little too heavy handed?
- [29:47]
E
It's.
- [29:50]
C
The mailman shows up message.
- [29:54]
E
You're saying the outside thoughts. Inside thoughts.
- [29:57]
A
Outside. No. We're trying to brainwash you to murder people for us. Now listen. Oh wait. I said that I wasn't supposed to say all that. Okay.
- [30:08]
E
And we turn the page. We're introduced to Navy Sailor Monkey D Dragon. Future Revolutionary Army Commander and father of Luffy. Now, before I. Is this the first time we've seen Dragon, like officially confirmed to be part of the Marines? I like in my head Canon. It's always been that way. But yeah, I think it was.
- [30:27]
B
We knew he was. We knew that he was in the Navy in the past.
- [30:32]
F
He fully was in the Ohara, right?
- [30:35]
A
Oh, before Ohara.
- [30:37]
D
It was before Ohara.
- [30:38]
A
It was before.
- [30:40]
E
I'm sure this event makes him like. Oh shit.
- [30:43]
C
This is 38 years ago.
- [30:45]
A
38. 38. The color spread with all the Marines. Isn't he on that? I think that was the first hint we got. I got that. That color spread.
- [30:56]
C
I can kind of see. I mean I can kind of. His eyes kind of look like Luffy's eyes get that way sometimes in Gear four.
- [31:02]
E
He looks like Gear four Luffy. Yeah.
- [31:04]
B
Yeah. It is kind of interesting that I guess this like. I don't know if this is like their special mission garb or something, but he doesn't look very mariney here. He looks more like a revolutionary than. Than a Marine at this moment.
- [31:17]
E
Yeah. Tattoo like it is in the past. So it could just be old timey Marines maybe.
- [31:21]
A
But no. Everyone else is wearing the normal.
- [31:24]
C
He's got his shackles hanging off of his belt there or his backpack strap to apprehend the.
- [31:32]
D
I hope that when he becomes a revolutionary, he takes the tattoo off his arm and puts it on his face here. Now.
- [31:42]
A
It'S like a temporary tattoo. The ones. Yeah, the ones I put on my Kids, it's that. But that he doesn't get the face tattoo for, like, a long while. Like, that's much.
- [31:52]
C
It's kind of the same design as the one in his arm.
- [31:54]
A
It is, yeah. And he. He has one on. He has, like, a band on his leg he wears at some point. So obviously there's some important symbology or. Oda's just trying to make it obvious it is him almost waiting for the.
- [32:07]
E
Moment where someone just takes his head during this event, like, pushes it against, like, a hot grate and, like, it, like, burns his face tattoo or something.
- [32:15]
D
Now I have a burn scar.
- [32:17]
E
Exactly. All right, let's continue on here.
- [32:22]
A
Yeah, please.
- [32:23]
E
So Dragon is looking down the barrel of his gun. Huff, Huff, it's fine. They're tranquilizer rounds. I'm not killing anyone. I'm sorry about this. If you allow us to arrest you, I won't have to shoot. And some schmuck is like, I don't know what's going on here, but I'm.
- [32:39]
B
Leaving the island out of the way.
- [32:42]
E
And shoomp, shoomp. Two tranquilizer darts. They both drop to the ground, and Dragon's huffing and puffing. And in the background, we see a huge, almost like, mushroom cloud explosion. And someone says on intercom, put on your masks. We're using tear gas. And Dragon just is like, oh, not today, man.
- [33:01]
D
He's really aiming for the rank of big boss by just using tranqs on everybody.
- [33:05]
E
Exactly. That's the kind of vibe I was getting, too.
- [33:10]
A
Tranq's still hurt.
- [33:12]
C
He just looks done with this at this point with these, like, sort of rolling his eyes a little bit.
- [33:17]
A
No, no, he's listening. I think that's supposed to be like. He's just like.
- [33:21]
B
He's like, what the hell is going on here?
- [33:23]
E
It just. It feels like his first day, he's having.
- [33:25]
A
I didn't sign up for this.
- [33:26]
E
The worst first day of his life.
- [33:27]
C
He's having regrets.
- [33:29]
A
They say Navy sailor, and he's a. They say rookies specifically. So it may as well be like his first day in combat.
- [33:36]
E
Yeah, this is Kobe level Dragon.
- [33:38]
A
This is, like, early Kobe level Dragon. Helmet level dragon. He's got a little teddy bear with him, too. Anyway, we head toward the Navy prison ship powering slaves. Because it's darker than usual. You have. Oh, so this is the Morse code that I didn't get. So did you translate this Morse code, Stephen?
- [34:06]
B
What?
- [34:07]
A
I'm not being facetious. A, B, C, D, Right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, no. Well, because there's there's dots and dashes like B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B. Yeah, well, that's my.
- [34:23]
B
I'm just saying if it is Morse code, there's like four letters in this. So what? What can it possibly do?
- [34:29]
A
Yeah, you're pro. And it says a. Much like the end of Gigapunk's message thing anyway.
- [34:38]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [34:39]
A
In the communications room of this ship, we see a guy who looks equally just like Derpy generic Marine thinking if they heard someone. And we see footsteps running across his office.
- [34:55]
C
I thought that face. I thought that guy's face actually looked familiar. I wonder if he was like Andre or Kandre.
- [35:03]
A
Andre.
- [35:04]
B
Yeah. It's not that far off from. From Ande Kandre, but I think it's just generic Oda design.
- [35:09]
A
It's. I was gonna say. Yeah, I mean, it could be someone. When I say generic, that means it could be someone because, you know, there's. There's generic people and we have. Oh, it's all our friends from the other flashback. It's Jenny and Eva, who also exists in, you know, the current time. Say, hey, bro. Jenny, you're all right? Yeah, it all worked out. The intel agent should come to buy to get us later, you know, I'm sure that's gonna work out. Meanwhile, the other slaves.
- [35:42]
B
Sorry, I like that. You can see in the background that they have broken the suspiciously like child sized pipe that is running through the ship. And that's apparently how she was sneaking around.
- [35:53]
A
If I've learned one thing from movies and games, there's a.
- [35:57]
C
There's another slave down there who kind of looks like Basil Hawkins to me with his hair.
- [36:02]
A
That is definitely not Basil. He would be much younger, right? Yeah. Or. Or not alive yet.
- [36:09]
B
Yeah, he's not alive yet. He's not that old.
- [36:11]
A
Or as they say in bluey, invisible. So not born yet. So the other slaves are like, how. Would you kids shut the up? Don't ruin things. Sorry, I added a scanlation version of that. Don't ru things for the rest of us. You're gonna get us punished too. And Eva goes off on this. Punished, you fool. We're all gonna die. If you don't try to learn where the ship is going and you don't even struggle to survive. What makes you think we'll be lucky enough to make it out? Don't play games with miracles. And Jenny is like, hang on, bro. Calm down. Your face is getting larger. Meanwhile, Kuma is doing some mindful meditation here as the prisoners begin riding and says, I didn't know slaves could be so feisty. Meanwhile, my favorite part of the chapter. We go to the Cipher Pole Intelligence Agency or the Sepia. It's the CIA, but with a P in it says. Oh, yeah, you heard some incredible intel. Yeah, what is it this time? Don't play dumb. What's our big news? Morgan's. I guess it's just a newspaper boy from the twenties at this point. Oh, yeah, you heard some incredible intel. Was it this time? Don't play dumb. I know you people picked it up too. Now pay me. You want me to sit on this scoop, don't you? You get it. I could. I could have. I could have said Coop. It's the joke.
- [37:39]
E
You could have.
- [37:40]
A
But I didn't. I just said this just now.
- [37:44]
D
He almost flew the scoop.
- [37:47]
C
There it is.
- [37:47]
A
There it is.
- [37:48]
C
Yeah, sit on it. Potsy.
- [37:52]
A
Flew the scoop. How does some kids. Local. Fancy. Local paper with a fancy name get an intel network like that? See, this is why you name your podcast or blogs or whatever it is. And something very, you know, like the financial. I can't. I'm done.
- [38:17]
D
It's like how fancy restaurants have names like salt and sprig and shit like that.
- [38:23]
A
Well, there was the trend where you just take out. You just take out vowels from the word, and that's the name of the restaurant.
- [38:29]
C
Well, that's how they. That's how they name apps.
- [38:32]
A
That's true. That's apps.
- [38:33]
F
Right?
- [38:34]
E
Or if you want to show up first, it's like the AAA One piece podcast. One piece podcast.
- [38:39]
A
Yeah, but then people just use exclamation points.
- [38:41]
C
That's just from. That's just from. Leftover from the phone book.
- [38:44]
E
Exactly. Exactly.
- [38:47]
A
Yeah, well, when we were listed in the phone book, it was under a different phone number. Anyway, we have big news. Morgan's just regular Morgan saying, why just try it. Either way, I'm leaking this to Pirate Island. He thinks to himself out loud, and yeah, here he is. Morgan's looking like a 1920s new Z. I freaking love it. And like the hat, he better never not be a bird. If he is not. If I see his human form ever, then I'm gonna react like Steven did to the Moria thing for a long time. And that's all I'm gonna talk about. But I also love. I just want to see his regular.
- [39:25]
C
Bird form instead of his big bird form.
- [39:28]
A
Well, this is his regular bird form, I guess.
- [39:30]
E
Well, this is. This is the hybrid form, like Ed saying, like the full, like, bird y. Albatross.
- [39:35]
C
I want to see him fly in the sky.
- [39:36]
D
Yeah.
- [39:37]
F
I need Chopper to give him his Sulong drugs. That's what I need to see.
- [39:41]
E
Oh my God. Sulong.
- [39:42]
A
He's a bird. He's a bird. He's not an. He's not a mammal.
- [39:45]
E
He's not a mink. Right.
- [39:48]
A
I do love these two like mafia birds that he's with here. Just so excellent. All of this. This is the highlight for me, obviously. Anything. Big news. Morgan's will always be. Alex, please.
- [40:04]
D
Okay. So here we are back at full lead and we hear. So Shaky still alive. And the.
- [40:13]
A
The.
- [40:13]
C
The island is making heart eyes.
- [40:15]
D
It is. Yeah.
- [40:17]
B
Now we got another time inconsistency here because you know, they weren't heart shaped before. So.
- [40:28]
D
A wizard did it.
- [40:29]
B
Yeah.
- [40:30]
D
And we hear some clamor. Are you serious? What a relief. God Valley. Where is that? And Wangji says that seems fishy. You sure about your source?
- [40:43]
A
Is that the Odin face? The Whitebeard?
- [40:46]
D
Oh my close.
- [40:48]
B
Yeah, that's like a Cartoon Network face.
- [40:50]
A
Or is that just his face? You're right about that. By the way.
- [40:54]
D
Now that's resting Wang Xi face.
- [40:58]
C
That's not the Wano face. There's only three chins. I think.
- [41:01]
D
Yeah.
- [41:02]
E
That. For the last year, ever since he handed over. Shaky.
- [41:06]
D
Yeah. So what's. What's. I think what's really cute is that Gloriosa, who you know, in previous chapters was like shaky bullshit, is very happy to hear that. That she's alive. So that's very nice.
- [41:20]
A
And she was crying at the beginning of the chapter.
- [41:23]
B
Yes.
- [41:23]
D
Yeah, that's right. That's right. Ms. Buckin says the Navy's been taking action. So it seems solid. And Captain John says she's a prize in the Celestial Dragons game. And. And I. I think that's probably.
- [41:41]
A
Yeah.
- [41:42]
D
Gonzoe back there, he says. So that means whoever kidnapped her was with the government.
- [41:46]
A
Damn it.
- [41:47]
D
And there's Shiki going shucky. Probably Chucky Chan. Right?
- [41:54]
B
Yes.
- [41:58]
A
Steven's gonna double check.
- [41:59]
D
Yeah.
- [42:01]
A
Important. Important facts we need here. While he does that, you can. Yeah.
- [42:07]
D
Newgate says it's the Celestial Dragon's manhunt. I always thought it was just a tall tale. Big mom says they got devil fruits too. Kaido, you want one? Didn't you? And Kaido says, what powers are they?
- [42:22]
A
I. I do like how Whitebeard is like the only one disgusted out of this group as to what's going on.
- [42:28]
D
Because he's a good guy.
- [42:29]
A
Yeah. The rest of them are such dicks.
- [42:33]
D
They're really just a band of Dicks.
- [42:35]
B
I can confirm that. Yes. Shiki is saying Shaky Chan.
- [42:39]
A
Yes.
- [42:40]
D
That's great.
- [42:40]
C
Fantastic.
- [42:41]
A
Thank you. Yes, Good.
- [42:42]
D
Fantastic. Big mom also confirms that she wants the devil fruit for her kids, which I think we talked about, like in Kuma's flashback. Why would Big mom be so hardcore about wanting a devil fruit? And I think Kaido asked her this too, so.
- [42:59]
B
Oh, that's right. Okay. Yeah. The two fruit that we saw previously, it was the dragon fruit and the pawpaw fruit.
- [43:06]
D
Right? So I guess there's probably more Dragon. Dragon fruits, devil fruits. We'll talk about that idea.
- [43:12]
A
I will say, since we've talked about Even Cough before the SBS drawing of Even Cough with the dragon devil fruit, like a what if scenario that he did for an sbs, one of my favorites. That's a really fantastic one.
- [43:27]
E
I just love Big mom is like. Like an actual parent. Like, hey, Kaido, want a popsicle?
- [43:31]
A
You know?
- [43:32]
E
What flavor do you got?
- [43:35]
A
I was gonna. I was gonna say, oh, Big mom being a good parent, looking out for her kids for a second, but I'm like, no, she's just looking out for herself here, because this is. This is for her benefit.
- [43:47]
F
I'm just bummed they don't have tiny katakuri on her shoulder anymore. I want the Retcon. I want him on her shoulder every time.
- [43:56]
A
Yeah, yeah. With like, a Gilbert Godfrey voice, hopefully. Yes, agree. Alex, please.
- [44:02]
D
So here's Struzan that, you know, people seem to have forgotten we didn't. It says, a new shirt's not a trap. And Rock says, shut up. If you're not committed, stay here. The rest of us are going to God Valley. And meanwhile, the Roger Pirates also get this bit of intel. It shakes the whole ship. Roger says, hey, Gabon, where's God Valley? Gabon says, not close, but we'll. I'll make sure we're there in time. And Roger says, we're going right, boys? And everybody is gung ho about it, saying, no question, with Rayleigh, of course, front and center, because that's his vent. His girlfriend.
- [44:48]
A
But I do like the way he's doing it. Like, it's the. I'm embarrassed. But yes, obviously.
- [44:54]
D
Yeah.
- [44:55]
A
Oh, no. I have a girlfriend.
- [44:57]
D
Yeah, she lives in Canada. So Roger's. Roger's pretty excited about it. And actually, the next two panels are something that we've, I guess from a different angle, two moments that we've seen before in previous flashbacks. Roger says, so Rox is on the move. Don't let him get at the jump on us. And then we see Garp saying. Responding to the transponder snail that says, we didn't think Roger would get involved. Lead us that next time I'm going that.
- [45:32]
A
Exactly.
- [45:33]
D
Remember, he's like on. He's like on shore leave or something.
- [45:35]
B
Yep, yep.
- [45:36]
D
Yeah. And the narrator says it took just the tiniest bit of classified intel to set off all the fiercest warriors of the sea.
- [45:45]
A
Morgan's.
- [45:46]
C
I guess Garp is like the doom. The doom marine who was on shore leave. Or he's on leave when the portals of hell opened.
- [45:53]
D
Yeah, I'm supposed to be here today.
- [45:56]
A
I do like that these events were set off after Morgan's got bribed and still leaks it. Anyway.
- [46:02]
D
Yeah.
- [46:03]
A
So that's excellent. Yeah.
- [46:06]
C
Information wants to be free.
- [46:09]
A
You could say that. Yeah. The one. The one piece is.
- [46:12]
D
Anyway, elsewhere on the sea, we see the rocks. Pirates encounter a giant ship. And we know it's a giant ship because somebody says it's a giant ship. Who cares? Sink em. No way. What is it? Rocks don't slow us down, they say.
- [46:31]
A
I was gonna say this is a nice panel. I like this panel.
- [46:33]
D
Yeah. At first it's so funny. We've. The giants have been so far removed from this flashback that I looked at that ship and I was like, oh, who could that be?
- [46:42]
C
They got the shields on the thing there.
- [46:44]
A
That's how you can help.
- [46:45]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [46:47]
D
I was like, wow, a giant ship. I totally, like. Yeah, I totally spaced out.
- [46:52]
A
You know what? You know who I thought that was? At first? I thought that was the Celestial Dragon ship. Like, that was what was carrying them. Because I was expecting, like, a super fancy big ship to do that. And then I'm like, oh, right, Harold. Yeah. And Loki was in this flashback.
- [47:06]
D
At first I was like, is that an ancient ship?
- [47:07]
C
What's going on? Newly bald Harold.
- [47:10]
D
Yes. Yeah, it's like fourth season. No, 3.5 season. Cisco before the goatee. No, this is actually pure, like, full on season four. Full on season four. And on Cisco with the goatee and the.
- [47:24]
A
We're talking about DS9, by the way, and if you don't know about it, you should be watching it. Song.
- [47:30]
D
Yeah, yeah. Not that Cisco. Yeah, Zach. He's basically like, if Worf and Cisco were like a person.
- [47:39]
A
Yeah, he. His personality is Worf100, except he really maybe a little less fun, but okay, you nerds.
- [47:46]
D
All right, all right, all right.
- [47:50]
A
I like prune juice. Yeah, go ahead.
- [47:52]
D
Destroy the opposition. So it turns out it's Harold's ship. De doi. Because that's whose flashback this is supposed to be, Harold says, I was told to top a certain pirate crew that was infatuated with a single woman. Rocks, if we make use of our strength, it wouldn't be child's play to sink your tiny ship. Do you see that boot in the distance? We've got government monitors. And Rox doesn't give a single shit with his crew. His, His. Well, the three, I guess, three future emperors. In back of him, he says, and you think this is winning you points with the world government? Don't underestimate what we can do. King of the giant oafs.
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A
I can't believe he did said that. Oh my God. Wow.
- [48:44]
D
Does it please you to serve the government that sits on its comfortable perch and watches us destroy one another? I suppose it does. Because you're the madman who wants to change Elbaf no matter what. Now, can we talk in private?
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A
Absolutely. Absolutely. How I read that line, Alex. Perfect.
- [49:10]
D
All right, so they're having tea over in the corner there.
- [49:15]
A
Oh, sorry, was I the only one thinking that? Tea.
- [49:18]
D
Oh, yes, they're having sex.
- [49:20]
A
Oh, alcohol.
- [49:22]
D
With each other.
- [49:23]
A
Yeah, with each other.
- [49:24]
E
Ships are rocking. Don't come knocking.
- [49:28]
D
Man. Next time Vero's on, we'll have to ask them if there are any during rocks.
- [49:35]
A
And Harold, I think the likelihood will be high. And if it gives a whole new.
- [49:41]
C
Meaning to getting your rocks off.
- [49:43]
D
Oh my God.
- [49:43]
B
Damn.
- [49:44]
A
Well, kick him out of here.
- [49:46]
D
Well, let me tell you something, Ed, that joke. That joke's about to be. That joke's about to be out of style because.
- [49:55]
A
Oh no, you said it just in time though, that if anything.
- [49:58]
D
True. It's true. Yeah.
- [49:59]
A
Wait, but it actually works the two ways because you could be also getting the rocks off of the name.
- [50:04]
D
Getting your Davey off. I mean, well, we're basically. Here we are. He's pouring him, Harold's pouring rocks some sake from probably like, I don't know, a water tower sized flagon. And he. And he says, I'm sure you've heard where we're going and why. Well, oh, wait, hold on. No, no, no, no, that's. I was doing the wrong voice. Yeah, I'm sure you've heard where we're.
- [50:30]
A
Going and what both are. Very power tone.
- [50:33]
D
I know, it's. It's hard. Well, I'm only gonna tell this next part to you. It's not even for my own crew to hear. And then the giants are like, what is his majesty talking about over there? Who's a silver axe?
- [50:48]
A
That's a perfect.
- [50:50]
D
Well, la Dee Da. I want him to have a not so baritone voice. We have too many of those on the crew. And Shiki says he's having a toast.
- [51:01]
A
While my beloved Shaky J is waiting to be rescued. Sounding more like Vincent Price somehow. I don't know why. Which is fine.
- [51:15]
D
And here we go. Rock says, truth is, I've got a hidden name. Trafalgar. D Water? No, no, no, no.
- [51:31]
A
Almost a spake. I don't like.
- [51:36]
D
His.
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A
His.
- [51:37]
D
His hidden name is Davey D. Zebic. And Harold says the same thing that everybody reading is thinking. It's not rocks, it's gold.
- [51:51]
A
D. Roger, it's not gold.
- [51:53]
E
That's just my Discord nickname.
- [52:00]
A
Golfer's real name is Davey. Yep.
- [52:04]
D
See, Roxd Zebek was my Gmail handle. Davey was taken, so I had to. Anyway, that's it.
- [52:13]
A
You know what? Here's the big reveal. All of our names are Davey.
- [52:18]
C
Yeah, I mean, if you read it a different way, it's David Zebick.
- [52:24]
D
Please. David Zeb. Because my father.
- [52:27]
A
Maybe everyone caught you could have done the same thing, though. He didn't have to change his name to Rocks. He could just.
- [52:33]
C
With the bald head. Harold really looks like an old timey, like, weightlifter guy.
- [52:37]
A
He does. Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yes.
- [52:41]
D
So sorry, sir.
- [52:43]
A
Go ahead.
- [52:44]
D
So, Zebec continues. I guess we could just call him Zebeck. Right. Because everybody calls him his surname, but most people in one piece call each other by their first name. I don't know. It's very funny the way Rocks works. Anyway, he says it's the name of a clan that I suspect the world government has long tried to cover up. The descendants of the legendary pirate Davey D. Jones. We took root in the crowd. David Jones.
- [53:12]
C
David Robert Jones, AKA David Bowie.
- [53:15]
D
Yeah, he had to change his name to David Bowie because there was already a Davy Jones and. What, the Partridge? No, no, the Monkeys. Monkeys. Thank you.
- [53:25]
B
Monkeys.
- [53:26]
A
Yeah. Is he ripping off Venture Brothers now and just making David David Bowie the debut. Whatever. I'm done. Go ahead.
- [53:35]
D
We took root in the criminal underworld and continued to eke out a living, even today. So there we have it.
- [53:43]
B
Yeah, well, remember, remember, this is one piece. So his name is actually Jones Davy.
- [53:48]
D
Yep. Yes. Which is like. Okay, before we continue, I'm really glad that Davey's the surname because, like, I would have really been pissed off if Hody Jones became really relevant.
- [54:01]
A
Oh, that. There's a character I never want to see be relevant again. That's the one.
- [54:08]
B
Yeah.
- [54:09]
A
That would piss me off.
- [54:10]
D
Unless Oda just up with the name Kozuki Jones.
- [54:14]
A
Wait, no, because I had. Yeah, Kozuki Jones.
- [54:17]
C
They call fucking Kazuki Jones over here.
- [54:20]
D
What's funny is that in the real world, Jones is a very, very popular surname, but in the One piece world, Jones is a very popular first name.
- [54:27]
A
Yeah, you could say that with everything in the One piece world, Steven.
- [54:32]
B
Yeah. I'm also glad that Davey is his surname so that it's not going to turn out that the D stands for Davey.
- [54:39]
D
It could.
- [54:40]
B
Davey, Davey, Davey, Davey, Davey. All right, so, Rox. Excuse me. Davey takes a big sip of his saucer of sake there and he says, do I have to do a Ultimate warrior now?
- [55:00]
E
You drink water while reading this, Steven?
- [55:03]
B
Yeah, he's a very talented man. My timing was either great or terrible. You see, two years ago I had a kid, and to make sure that danger couldn't befall them both, I sent my wife and child to my homeland and told them to seek the Davy clan for help. And King Harald says, I see, so your kin and your wife and child are there in your homeland. And why would you admit this exploitable weakness to me? To which Sebek reveals, my home is God Valley. And so Harold is like, what? So the government did this as a means to lure you into their clutches? And Zbek says, nah, the Celestial Dragons are converging on that island. They don't want me coming there. That was a miscalculation on their part as he exhales some nasty alcohol breath there and he tosses the saucer aside off the. The ledge that he's sitting on and he says it feels as though some great act of fate is pulling all the strings behind the scenes. I think his name is Eiichiro Oda.
- [56:14]
A
Thought you were gonna say Emu, but okay.
- [56:17]
C
Hey, Zebeck, give a hoot, don't loot, don't, don't.
- [56:20]
D
Litter.
- [56:20]
A
Litter.
- [56:21]
D
Yeah, yeah, loot all you want. You're a pirate.
- [56:23]
A
Yeah, if anything, loot more. Not enough looting. Yeah, go ahead.
- [56:27]
B
Yeah, this is the equivalent. He's just like tossing the empty beer bottle over his back to smash in the. In the saloon or whatever. Kidnapping Shacky was their fatal mistake. As long as my wife and kid escape, I don't care about the rest. And then he. He gets a dark look in his eyes. A little. A fatalistic look, let's say. Whoever side fortune is on, Harold, it doesn't feel like mine, so lend me your aid. And of course we know that supposedly, you know, the God Valley incident was the end of rocks D? Xebec. So it seems he is, you know, he's got a. Some foreboding about his immediate future. And then Harold does the luffy face where he's like, I refuse. I'd rather sink your ship right now. And Zbix says, that's your choice. So be it. And then kind of an interesting sequence here, which I personally am not entirely sure like, what Ode is implying here, but Harold says to his men, don't attack him. And they're like, huh. And then we see the, you know, the rocks are presumably sailing away as there's just a giant explosion, just a plume of, you know, fire and smoke coming off of the. The. The royal ship of King Harald. As. As Rock says, he gives him his. His parting message of you soft coward. Which is what he. He called him before.
- [58:00]
E
The way I took this was because Harold's being monitored by the marine ship. He has to like, kind of like save face. So he's saying, I'd rather sink your ship right now. And then to the crew, don't, don't. Don't attack him. And then they like, oh, you soft cow. Like, it's. It's. They're playing a. Playing an act right here.
- [58:17]
B
Okay, yeah, that might be it. That might explain it.
- [58:20]
C
And he just sort of fires into the air. Didn't hit anything, apparently.
- [58:24]
E
No, no, he hit the ship. They like, they made it look realistic. Oh yeah, like the giant ship is all.
- [58:30]
A
My assumption was just that rocks did attack, you know, since. Okay, you're not gonna let me go, I'm gonna just.
- [58:38]
E
Yeah, yeah.
- [58:40]
D
I read this as. Oh, this is the battle that's happening right now on the ship. But yeah, it looks very much like Harold is going to let him go.
- [58:49]
B
Is it like the get out of here, you dumb animal sort of situation?
- [58:54]
E
Exactly, yeah.
- [58:56]
A
That's how I interpret it.
- [58:58]
C
The you soft coward thing is just because he isn't helping him.
- [59:01]
B
Yeah.
- [59:02]
A
Now I want a Harry and the Hendersons with these two, though.
- [59:05]
D
Davey and the Hendersons. Davy, Davey and the Davisons.
- [59:08]
E
Davey and the Haroldsons.
- [59:09]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Harold and Hendersons. They're all good.
- [59:13]
B
Good lord. So the. The narration continues, though hard to believe. Once every three years the celestial dragons choose an island rich in resources and unaffiliated with the government and carry out a manhunt game there, slaughtering all the natives. You'd think they would run out of islands after, you know, a couple decades.
- [59:33]
A
But every three years. That's a lot. Marco said that's more than once.
- [59:41]
F
It's between 10 and 20 million this is.
- [59:43]
B
Yeah, this is Oda math. And yeah, so then we see the. The people of God Valley and they're all wailing, somebody help. This can't be happening. And.
- [60:00]
F
Yeah, yeah, we pick up back on God Valley at the day of the God Valley incident. And we have the big superimposed shocky over multiple panels here on the right and a whole bunch of celestial dragons all looking like they're in love with her. And then, correct me if I'm wrong, nine chests circle the top of this little kind of altar they have. I imagine these are, you know, number one gets shocky. Numbers two through ten get whatever's in those chests. But in addition to the rare and exotic devil fruits, we have our grand prize to the event or of the event. Hailing from the Isle of Women within the calm belt of the Grand Line, the previous Empress of the Amazons, praised as the most beautiful woman in the world. Her name is Shaku Yaku. Celestial Dragons, go. Take her for your. Take her for a wife or make her a slave. The decision is yours. Oh, she's so beautiful. I want her. She was kept in prison in pristine condition after being caught a truly elite prize.
- [61:12]
D
She's perfect.
- [61:14]
F
Win and bring her into the shepherd family. Summers, see her face down at the bottom right. We see Summer saying, oh, don't be stupid. If I win, she's my slave. We see Garling saying, she's my wife. Stop dreaming, Summers. Then we see Gunko. And do we know who the person is on the right with the crazy?
- [61:34]
B
Okay, so yeah, when we saw these. These people previously in Right Now. Yeah, the one with the hat with the world government insignia on it was saying, you know, win it for the Manmeyer family. And we recently found out through the. The update to the last volume that Oda changed the. The. The caption for Gunko on her introduction where she is now Saint Gunko of the. Of the Manmire family. So she is related to this. This person in the hat.
- [62:08]
A
This clan at least. Gotcha Some. Some interesting notes. So I do. The thing I do enjoy about this flashback is seeing kind of concurrent events from different points of view.
- [62:19]
B
Yeah.
- [62:21]
A
Yeah. There were six chests in the original, so. Oda, come on. What are you doing? But it's really interesting. We've already introduced. You know, they. They already. It's one of those things like we were talking about, like off screen, I said this. And now I will continue the sentence. And here's the rest of the sentence here.
- [62:46]
B
Yeah. Or at least setting up. We're setting up a Real Rashomon scenario here, depending on who's rational.
- [62:53]
A
That's for the movie.
- [62:54]
B
Yeah.
- [62:54]
A
Yeah.
- [62:55]
B
Who's telling the flashback? You know, I remember it.
- [63:00]
A
We've already introduced. I'm trying to find the. Where they talk. Well, here.
- [63:04]
C
The previous flashback was Kuma's flashback where we were seeing through his memories, Right?
- [63:09]
E
Correct.
- [63:09]
A
Yes. That's. To be fair, it makes a lot of sense why we only saw certain things in. In the original. And also, you do see Ginny with, like, the transponder snail and stuff. So the. The Morse code thing also, you know, fits. So I'm just.
- [63:29]
E
We're assuming that Gunko isn't aging, right? Because she looks almost exactly the same.
- [63:33]
D
Yeah.
- [63:35]
A
Longer hair.
- [63:36]
E
We've seen summers and, like, figure. Like, everyone looks older except Gunko has stayed the same. And also that person, we're assuming is Gunko back in Emu's Butterfly Room. I'm assuming this is. That was Gunko as well.
- [63:47]
D
Like.
- [63:48]
B
Oh, that. That. And then the. The Brook connection too, where she remembers Brook as a human. So that's hella old.
- [63:55]
F
It's super cool to see her in the. More like traditional fatigues of the. Of the Holy Knights.
- [64:00]
B
Yeah. That's interesting.
- [64:02]
A
Yeah, it is.
- [64:04]
F
We didn't. We didn't cover the part. The most confusing three panels of the entire chapter.
- [64:10]
A
Yeah. We could talk about this where Dragon.
- [64:12]
F
Walks up on a woman dying, saying, please get my children off this island. Don't let that. Don't let him have them. And then his face looks like he's all bloodied up and he's been in a real fight. And then we see another woman looking, saying, come here, teach. It's all right. You have to live through this. And trying to pick him up. So when I first read this, I thought that was flipping the. The screen around, essentially.
- [64:36]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [64:37]
F
Like a hundred people corrected me when I talked about the video online.
- [64:40]
A
I. That was my initial instinct too. It is.
- [64:43]
D
I also thought this. And then I was like, oh, wow. I guess Catarina defines his sister.
- [64:50]
E
I guess.
- [64:51]
F
Just reading so much manga, I should have known how thick the border was. Like, should have been the game.
- [64:56]
A
No, no, it's. But it's that extra. It's that extra line there is really the only way. And it's. Which is half covered up by bubble. And they look like they're in a prison cell. So you also have those lines there. I think it is generally just extremely confusingly laid out there.
- [65:14]
B
Yes. There are a lot of similar details that, like, you know, your mind associates them with the same thing, even though they are different between the two scenes.
- [65:27]
A
Yeah, go ahead. There's still that last. Oh, yeah.
- [65:31]
F
Lastly, every world noble is aware of them. In addition to the buccaneer boy serving as a super rare rabbit in this contest, we have another target who's been found. At long last, after 800 years, the Davy clan Zoom out of God Valley.
- [65:52]
C
To be continued in seven days. New chapter.
- [65:55]
A
Seven days. Yeah. So why don't I. Why don't I. I do this sometimes when we have divisive chapters. Who. Who amongst you enjoyed it? Who, like, really? Who has praises to sing? And please do not be embarrassed either way if you have a piece.
- [66:12]
D
I don't think it was bad. I just. There's some dumb.
- [66:14]
A
No, Alex, I hold so much Dragon.
- [66:16]
F
Stock that I loved this chapter.
- [66:19]
A
Okay, well, golfer, why don't I start with you? No, no, Alex is going. I'm going back and forth between positive ish and negative ish. So, Golfer.
- [66:32]
F
Well, I've just staked so much of, like. What has kind of become the kind of content that I make is talking about how to view the Marines in the sense that, like. Like, on an individual level, they're very nuanced group, but as a whole, they are like the epitome of a violence arm for a world hegemonic superpower that you see in this chapter. The amount of people that have fought with me that are like, nope, all the Marines are good. They defend against pirates. And I'm like, I can't call somebody good if they're transporting slaves and are told to hunt people down so that they can be hunted as slaves on an island while they wipe them out and steal all their resources. And as they stand around and kind of watch it happen, and we so rarely get the perspective of a Marine that's like, oh, this is actually so bad, I have to quit. We get Saul. Kobe chickens out when he watches his own boss try to kill him. And then we get this moment where it's like, you can see the. The crumbs of, like, dragon already being like, wow, this is so beyond messed up. And I can't wait for the setup of Garp showing up on the island and the kind of conflict that they could possibly have.
- [67:44]
C
And it's especially the degeneracy of the celestial dragons that is, I think, is sort of his raison d' Trey is the.
- [67:52]
F
Yeah. And there's like a lot of defense of the Marines that they don't know anything about that, which is fair for the most part. But The Marines that do actually see it and like, see like, how like disgusting and despondent the celestial dragons are. And then having that sequence where he's like, you're literally not allowed to ask questions like, can you just shut up, dude? Like, you do not get to have like an opinion. You are so low level. It shows that in order to like succeed in the Marines, even to the level of a vice Admiral, you cannot question what is going on in the world.
- [68:23]
C
Just like, to see like Hunter S. Thompson writing a gonzo journalism piece about the God Valley. Like, God Valley is decadent and depraved.
- [68:30]
F
Yeah, that'd be pretty sick, honestly.
- [68:32]
D
Yeah.
- [68:35]
A
Yeah. Golfer. Any other thoughts on the chapter?
- [68:40]
F
Sick. Just, you know, it's just. It's this. You have three minutes to tell us this backstory and we're gonna be in this for lord knows how much longer. Like, this could honestly be another 10 to 12 chapters or even more if we just kind of keep zooming in on every new character that kind of pops in. So the whole interaction of what's going to happen on the island is like really, really exciting because then we're going to flashback to half the straw hats being bound up like damsels in distress while Luffy comes to save them.
- [69:12]
B
Somebody on our public discord was joking. So like, you know, a few. A few days before the chapter release, the official site always puts up like the first page of the manga. And so there's usually like a hidden like a, you know, spoiler, like put it behind spoiler tags discussion of just that first page. And this in this case, it's the one with. With Don Marlin and someone was joking like just on the string of. Of like the. The crazy tangents that this flashback has had that since people were suggesting that maybe Don Marlin was like related to Don Krieg, that this would. This would veer into the Don Krieg flashback of how he avenges his father's death or something. But yeah, anyways, yeah, it's been a very crazy back and forth of. So, yeah, three minutes.
- [70:02]
C
So it's. It's. It's Wang Xi who is paid off for. Yeah, selling her out.
- [70:09]
B
I wonder if Garling like sold if Garling paid him directly or if, you know, he was using some.
- [70:17]
A
Wow.
- [70:17]
F
I didn't even like, agents showed up.
- [70:19]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [70:21]
A
I didn't even put two and two together there.
- [70:22]
B
Oh yeah.
- [70:23]
C
When he says he special ordered so he was presumably behind the kidnapping of Shaki.
- [70:28]
A
Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, and he's probably caribou's dad is what we're all saying. More caribou backstory, Steven, I know you've been asking for that specifically.
- [70:39]
B
Yes.
- [70:39]
A
Yeah. Yes. Golfer. Anything else about the chapter that you wanted to.
- [70:44]
F
Just one comment over stuff we've talked about. If we get more backstories for characters that don't matter and I never get to see Cypher Pole create the civil war that led to the AOE Kingdom falling and Fujitora becoming a prisoner, I'm going to be so furious. Like, can we please. I. It feels like there's no way we're ever going to get to that.
- [71:04]
A
Like, me. What you're.
- [71:06]
D
There's no way we're seeing that.
- [71:07]
A
No. Yeah.
- [71:08]
F
There's no chance. And I'm so bummed about it because the. In the sbs, they're like, oh, yeah, he was a war criminal. There was a war. Oh, yeah, now he's a. He was conscripted into the Navy, and it's like, dude, this, like, I'm calling it, if we ever get the backstory of that cipher Pulse started that civil war and, like, created the conditions for the Iran Contra. Yeah, like, he. He was designated as, like, an asset, and they were like, how do we get him into our hands without it being too much of a trouble on our event? Let them all kill each other. And we're.
- [71:40]
A
That would be. I want to see that. You're right. That does sound.
- [71:43]
D
It's definitely cool. But if we're not seeing Rocky Port, we're definitely. Pronounce it.
- [71:46]
A
Yeah, no, we did. We kind of saw Rocky Port, wasn't it?
- [71:49]
D
We didn't see it, but it got. It got explained in an sbs.
- [71:53]
A
No, no, it got explained kind of in the manga, too, didn't it? I thought.
- [71:57]
F
No, I thought we just got, like, basically, like, a newspaper article of.
- [72:00]
D
Yeah, not to the extent.
- [72:03]
F
Most of it.
- [72:04]
D
Yeah. Not to the extent that ODA covered it in. I think it was a magazine or an sbs, right, Stephen? Something like that.
- [72:09]
B
Yeah, I think he did. Like. I think he did. He put it in the sbs, and then he, like, also had someone say, as you know, in the manga, like, in, like, summed it up in, like, a panel or two.
- [72:21]
A
That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, it was talked about at least. Like, the Rocky Port incident. I always kind of want to be the. What was it? The spaghetti incident in Calvin and Hobbes. Like, I always. I always wanted it to be a thing that was never really fully explained, so I guess I might.
- [72:39]
C
You're such a Big Guns and Roses fan, Zachary.
- [72:41]
A
Yeah, you know, me golf or anything else?
- [72:45]
F
No, that's it.
- [72:46]
A
I'm good. All right, Alex. Okay, give us your spicy takes.
- [72:52]
D
Look, I thought this was a fun chapter. It was fun. Okay, look, I'm not gonna totally poo poo it. You all know my thoughts on, you know, on the flashbacks. So for what this is, you know, I'm enjoying where this is headed. Obviously, we're going to hopefully finally see exactly what happens at God Valley. Or at least, you know, what we're supposed to see. Come on, man. Another secret name? Give me a fucking break, dude. Before the dust had even settled on. Oh, okay, so his name is actually RoxD. Teach. We get. No, actually, it's Davey. I know you just crossed out his name in all of your volumes, but guess what? You got to do it again. So I don't know, another secret name. Like, now, like, come on, man. Does everybody in this manga have a secret name now? Like, is Luffy's name really?
- [73:46]
C
Like, is teachers still just Teach? That's what we call when he's a kid. But he doesn't have a full name.
- [73:52]
D
Well, sure, but I mean, like, you know. Oh, names that are going to mean something, you know, later on when everybody's, you know, we're going to find out everybody's related to people in the ancient kingdom or whatever. Like, is it.
- [74:04]
F
Would it be worse with this having everybody having secret names or everybody secretly having mythical zoans and just not understanding their devil fruit for super long?
- [74:14]
D
Jesus Christ.
- [74:18]
F
The forest God theories that I've seen where he actually has a mythical zoan, and. Okay, you know, he's connected to the. To the mural in Elbaf and all that.
- [74:27]
A
That's why they call him. I think I'm gonna steal Ken's joke. Davey. Davey Chopper.
- [74:33]
D
But he ate the human fruit. He didn't eat the deer fruit.
- [74:36]
A
He's gonna become the ultimate human, which, as we all know, that's. There's nothing more. There's no more dangerous game than that.
- [74:46]
D
Now, I'm thinking of, what, that Venture Brothers episode, the Return of the House of Mummies. The ultimate man or whatever the.
- [74:51]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alex, please.
- [74:55]
D
Yeah, so that's sort of giving, like, I don't know, man. Like, why call him Rocks to begin with? Why not just, like, keep his name Davey? And then, like, I feel like it's right there. I feel like Oda's adding steps here to. Just to make it more, like, more surprising down the line, like, for cliffhangers. And like, I don't know, I. It's, it's. It's kind of ridiculous at this point. Also, did I talk about how it's stupid that Rox and Teach have the same face? Did I talk about that yet?
- [75:31]
C
Same face.
- [75:32]
A
We have talked about that. We have talked about that a lot.
- [75:35]
D
On the show because that's.
- [75:36]
A
Do not worry. And you have.
- [75:38]
D
Yeah. Okay. I might have mentioned it last time.
- [75:40]
A
I think you did.
- [75:43]
D
Yeah. So I don't know the secret name. Okay. DVD Jones. That's fine. That's great. This is a pirate manga. Naturally, there's going to be a lot like, naturally, Davy Jones who was evoked, you know, you know, Davey Backpite. I mean, almost like what, almost a thousand chapters ago? No, a little less than a thousand chapters ago. Looking at it.
- [76:04]
A
900. Yeah, something.
- [76:06]
D
Yeah, something like that. Whatever. Like, yeah, naturally that's going to come back. And Davy Jones in real life is like, you know, the most. One of the most famous, you know, like talked about, you know, Pirates of Lore and shit.
- [76:18]
A
He was mentioned in Fishman island too, right?
- [76:20]
D
Yes. And I think, and I think ODA drew him in an sbs, like what he looked like and he was just.
- [76:24]
A
I think you're right.
- [76:25]
D
Little old man with a treasure chest.
- [76:28]
A
I mean, he's in spongebob, like, right.
- [76:32]
D
Yeah, I think that, I think that like we would eventually, eventually gotten here. But the secret name stuff. And also I'm trying to like figure out like.
- [76:46]
C
But what does it all mean, Basil?
- [76:49]
A
Oh, so he drew the, the Davy Jones he drew was of the actual legend. The, you know, the real world one. Yeah, not the, so not our, our.
- [76:57]
D
Davy Jones, who, Who I think is going to be Joy boy.
- [77:01]
A
It's volume 38, by the way, for those looking.
- [77:04]
D
Yeah, I think that Davey D. Jones is Joy Boy.
- [77:07]
A
I think to be fair, Joy Boy is not a name.
- [77:10]
D
No, no, I think it's a nickname. I think it's a nickname that stuck. Yeah, like, oh, he's. He's so happy and jolly. So everybody called him Joy Boy.
- [77:16]
A
He won't stop.
- [77:18]
C
And that was still hundreds of years before the God Valley incident.
- [77:21]
D
Yeah, I mean, Davy D. Jones, I guess is what, like an 800-year-old pirate at this point? He's probably just legendary pirates, I'm assuming. Probably during what, the Void Century.
- [77:31]
A
The Void century, right. Yeah, they said 800.
- [77:33]
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, naturally that was going to happen. I just think that, that this situation, it's not as bad as Oda fucking up aces, you know. How long he was in the womb for, how old he should be.
- [77:52]
A
That one, that one is. That's an old timer.
- [77:56]
D
It's. Yeah, it's not as bad as that, but to me, this reeks of. Oh, shit, I should have done this years ago when I, you know, mentioned, you know, that there's another pirate at this God Valley incident. Yeah, I don't know, it seems really like, it seems a little sloppy and I feel like had to show it eventually.
- [78:17]
C
It's very important.
- [78:18]
D
Yeah. And with all like the rocks pirates being related to people in the current story, it's. It's really. I don't know, it seems sloppy to me. I don't know. I, It's a, it's a tad disappointing to me. Even though it's sort of fun seeing like. Oh yeah, that's obviously Caribou's dad because he looks disgusting. And, and those are the zombie generals, which I like. I, I think like there's, there's bits that I like actually that I think is really awesome. Like very clearly, you know, God Valley might become Thriller park or something.
- [78:55]
A
Yeah, I think. Yeah, go ahead, sir.
- [78:57]
D
Like, like half of these rocks pirates are gonna, you know, be killed in this battle coming up and you know, Moria's gonna use them to his advantage later on or not to his advantage because we saw the zombie generals do dick all in Thriller park, but, but boy, did they. Yeah. So I, basically my, my beef here is with the retroactive secret names like the Trafalgar D. Waterloo thing. I'm still like really hung up on obviously, like, what's the point? I guess the water laws are, I guess. Well, no, Trafalgar is his last name.
- [79:32]
A
No, it's supposed to be Trafalgar. Waterloo. That's Waterloo, yeah.
- [79:36]
D
Waterloo, yeah.
- [79:37]
A
That's the reason. It's only for that joke.
- [79:40]
D
Supposed to be, yeah, Waterlow, but it got.
- [79:42]
A
Look, I told you, it's only about the comedy. That's all Hoda really cares about.
- [79:49]
D
Okay. Yeah. So coming back to that, I hope that's true because now I bet it is. Like, no, be really funny if I did. It'd be really funny if I like gave like changed Rox's name in the middle of this flashback. And just with people like, I, I. Because that's sort of what's happening here a little bit. I don't know. I'm excited for God Valley. I think it's fun. I think it's, I think it's again, again, this whole, like, hey, Dragons here. And also he's the one that maybe rescued Shanks and put him in that treasure chest. That gold Roger eventually finds. Like, I guess there's some fun connective tissue there. And I don't know if he has to necessarily be at this specific event. It just seems too neat. I don't know.
- [80:38]
C
We were talking about Ray Am I Crazy last week and that was the episode title. But this is like the show post prom party where everything goes wrong.
- [80:45]
D
Yeah, I'm.
- [80:47]
F
I'm 100 on board with like all the name stuff. Like God Valley had all the tension it already needed. Like the. Everything we ever wanted to have happen. Like the. All the big, like, tier ones of the verse kind of come together and like go at it and there's like narrative reason to it and then like throwing in like dragon. Like, that's really cool, the name stuff. It feels. You guys ever read, like, Stephen King's forwards of his? Like, I put all the. All the cut material back into the stand, so now it's like 1100 pages long. And even he admits he's like, yeah, this needed to be edited out. Somebody needed to tell me no. It does feel a bit like nobody can tell Oda no anymore. Yeah, absolutely. Flicked on top like hat on a hat. Like we did not need him to be. Or even if he was part of the Davey clan, like, what if he didn't know? I don't know. I'm spitballing at best at that point. But it's like there needs to be somebody to help him edit a little bit more.
- [81:43]
D
It has seemed to me that, like, maybe his editor is like, hey, look, you want to finish the story, right? We got to like, really speed shit along. So maybe, you know, fast track some of your ideas so I. When you do say, hey, the story's going to end in five years, maybe it does.
- [81:58]
A
I don't think the editors want the story to end in five. Like, I think the powers that be at Shonen Jump are like, can you make this go on longer? Can you, like, can you add fodder.
- [82:08]
D
So that we can make like a prequel or a sequel series after you're done? Like, there's enough.
- [82:12]
A
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt that that is going to happen. That there will be a Boruto or whatever it is that or a Dragon Ball super, you know, like, where another artist is going to. I mean, they already kind of have those series. Like, was it One Piece in Love? But what I was going to say, I agree with the editor comment, but I really think it Is like Oda. It's Oda's creativity run amok almost is how it feels like. Like he absolutely has all of these ideas he wants to get out on the page. And recently. And I really think it's because of where we are in the story. He fee. I. You could feel like he. He's just needs to get these consequential.
- [82:54]
C
Because, like, these all have implications for the end of the Straw hat story in, you know, teaching stuff and Dragon. But, you know, he already had all these ideas. He already knows what had happened in the past, but didn't have a way of writing it.
- [83:08]
A
Well, here. Here's an example. Shiki, when initially Shiki came out, was an idea that Oda specifically said he had for an arc that he decided not to go with. And there is. There is the rub. He decided not to actually do it. And he's like, okay, I'll put in this movie instead. And, you know, now I feel like he's going back on his work, you know, like, now. No, you know what? I am gonna do stuff with Chic, you know, like, I am gonna do all these things. Like, it might also just be like a fomo. Yeah, it might be a FOMO thing. Like, just get this out there. Like, this is the only time I'm gonna write one piece. I want to get all of my thoughts on the page, you know, like, that might be going through his head like a midlife crisis. He almost kind of take on what. What's going on here. But. Yeah, Alex. Sorry, go ahead.
- [83:59]
D
Yeah, so I just want to wrap a few things up before I see my time. The. I think it's funny that he added a couple more mystery boxes. I was talking to Greg about this earlier, actually.
- [84:12]
A
Oh, yeah, the nine.
- [84:13]
D
He called the mystery boxes. And I'm like, that's pretty funny because he can really put whatever he wants in those later on. Like, it's very much a. Like, yeah, just. Why not? I can.
- [84:23]
A
Yeah.
- [84:24]
D
You know, it doesn't. I don't have to decide on this right away. When I first read that Shakki was kidnapped, I got really, really upset because I was like, oh, no. Because we all know what happened to Ginny. And I was like, don't do this again. But then we find out at the end that she was kept pristine. And I'm like, okay, good. Didn't have to worry about, you know, any Tom the Garling's already called dibs. Yeah. The last thing, like, I'm. I thought about this earlier. Like, the. We don't See Shanks's mom's face. We don't see Teach's mom's face. We don't see Rouge's face. Like, what's the deal? Like, why are we, why, why aren't we seeing faces?
- [85:11]
A
Can I, can I. Oh, mothers are the antithesis.
- [85:15]
D
Yeah, right. Yeah, but I think that's kind of like, like, come on, man.
- [85:19]
A
Wait, can I, can I read? Greg. Greg made a good tweet about this.
- [85:23]
D
She's awesome.
- [85:24]
A
That's true. Coolmom.com yeah, I'm not buying that URL. But Greg also posted a fan saying, hey Oda, could you draw 30,000 pages of high quality artwork week to week alongside mostly stellar writing and world building over the next 30 years or so? Sure. And then fans also asking, cool, cool. Could you also draw the faces of major characters mothers whenever they showed up, maybe? And boy, is that true.
- [85:55]
C
Like, no, you'll get squiggles and like it.
- [85:58]
A
No, it's, I mean, maybe it's that he's going to murder them anyway. But also the Shanks mom thing gave me a little pause because we. That probably are seeing her. We haven't mentioned this, but I know we were all thinking this. We're probably seeing her on that last page at the top. Oh my God, it's Shanks with long hair. Yeah, another twin comes up, but it's the mom. Sorry. But like, I agree, it's, it's. That's that said though, it's also, it's.
- [86:36]
C
It'S worse because Shanks is right there in the carriage when his mom is stabbed by his father.
- [86:41]
A
Maybe, maybe he's like, I'm not gonna show the face here because that would add too much. But that's not very something that Oda seems to shy away from. I, I don't think I'm just.
- [86:52]
D
I mean, what could she look like.
- [86:53]
F
That would change anything? Like you could just show.
- [86:55]
B
Yeah, like her dying, I think. Yeah, I think you can make.
- [86:59]
A
Humanizes her though as like a character potentially.
- [87:04]
B
I think you can make the argument too. And this is not invalidate any of the, the criticisms. But also like, like Shanks died or Shanks, you know, he never really knew his mother because I. Presumably she's dying in this flashback. And so there's a certain, you know, there's a certain creative choice to not show her because Shanks doesn't really know what his mother looked like.
- [87:25]
A
Yeah, but did Loki know? All right, it's his, it's his flashback.
- [87:32]
E
No, it's not. We've left.
- [87:33]
A
He's been telling this. No, I'm sticking by. I'm sticking to it. I don't care if it doesn't make sense. Loki knew all these things happened. He was personally sneaking around God Valley. Here. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh, who? Alex. Alex, you were going. Anything else?
- [87:52]
D
That's it? I mean, like, yeah, it's. It's fun. We get to see some cool. But. Yeah, a little sweaty.
- [88:03]
A
Ed.
- [88:04]
C
I don't really have much to add. Yeah, there was a. This one felt like a bit of a confusing chapter to me of, like, what is the relevance of this to, you know, Luffy's story? Luffy is presumably the main character of. This is something I've said a few times the last few weeks.
- [88:21]
D
I'm sure Oda keeps getting mail. That's. What about Shanks, Mom. Where did she.
- [88:28]
C
But yeah, I mean, it's. It's building tension to see what actually happens at God Valley. And we're gonna get there, and that's gonna be really cool. That's what I want. That's what I want to see at this point.
- [88:42]
D
And.
- [88:44]
C
What does it. What happens to Teach? We'll find out, I guess. But that's all I have. That's. That's all I have to say about that.
- [88:54]
A
Steven, your thoughts on the chapter.
- [88:56]
B
All right. Yeah, I think I kind of go down the middle on this one. I've purged all the hatred from my being already today, so I can't tear to shreds. I don't know. Yeah, it's like. There's a certain intellectual satisfaction, I think, in, you know, you guys were talking about how much work it must be for each chapter of this. Of this flashback for me. Just like, you know, all the different characters and. And everything, and. And there's a certain intellectual satisfaction to, like, kind of seeing all the moving pieces and, like, kind of watching them coalesce into, you know, a more complete understanding of. Of these events and. And stuff like that. Like. Like, it's. It's interesting to learn that stuff. But as to whether or not, you know, I'm, like, truly satisfied as, you know, as. As a story that I'm ingesting that it's a little trickier to say, obviously, we're still in the middle of it and, you know, he might absolutely. You know, there might be an incredible conclusion to this where I'm like, oh, my God. That's just. You know, it's perfect. I feel like that's kind of what happened for me with. With the Kuma flashback where, you know, it Just, it really wowed me. But there's a lot. There's. Man, there's so much going on. I do kind of agree with, with Alex where there's so much like, repetition of certain, like, tricks and tropes that he does. The hidden name thing is kind of silly and it does, it does make it kind of funny that like, Rocks, dz, Beck. Like the dumbest part of that, which is the name Rocks is apparently a name that he gave to himself because he already knew that his name was Davey DZ back. So it is kind of funny that I thought the worst part of that name was the, the part he decided on.
- [90:51]
D
I think it'd be funny if he decided on it because he was like, man, I rock.
- [90:55]
B
Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like Sam, when he does his anime recap and he's just like looking at whatever's on the shelf in the room. He's like, oh yeah, my name is Rocks on the ground. Rocks. Rocks DZ back.
- [91:08]
D
George Glass. Or, or if, or if Sanji was. Sanji's first name. Was. Is cool. Yeah, Sanji's cool.
- [91:16]
B
Max power.
- [91:18]
A
That's actually what it is. That's what it is.
- [91:20]
D
Max power.
- [91:23]
B
And so, yeah, that's, that's a little much. I'm also like the, oh, here's another missing people that have been tried to exterminate from the world that, you know, we, we were already introduced to the Buccaneers and now he's like, oh, and guess what, you know, is there going to be a third flashback where we see God Valley and it's like, oh, in addition to the Buccaneer boy, and in addition to the Davey clan, we also have, you know, the Joy Boy. What, you know, whatever else he, he thinks to throw in, it really does. You know, there's a hat in the hat, hat on a hat sort of thing going on. And I, I'm hoping, I'm, I'm assuming that he's, you know, he's kind of building up to something with, with this because there's just been, it's been such a repeated motif of like, well, there's the, there's the three eyed people, we have the, the Buccaneers, we have the Lunarians, we have this and that. Like, there's, there's so many like Ancient supposedly extinct people that the government is trying to wipe out. And I mean, I guess at some point it just becomes like, oh, well, I guess the, the lesson is just that the government is extremely bloodthirsty and is trying to you know, commit genocide all the time, which, I mean, I guess we've seen plenty of that in one piece, so not a huge surprise. But, you know, if he's going to treat it like a big mystery that. With layers to be unveiled, I would like it to be going somewhere and have some interesting payoff. And I just haven't seen that yet, really. But I don't know, like, it was really cool to see Dragon here. And this does a lot to kind of of, you know, fill in the blanks of his personal evolution and, you know, what. What brought him to where he is today. And so I did. I did like that. But otherwise, yeah, I don't know. It's just kind of a holding pattern, I think I'm just waiting to see, like, how does this all shake out? How does the rocks crew break up? You know, what sort of. What sort of drama will we get in the. The, you know, the big climax of this event? And I hope we get to see it. I hope we get to see some good stuff, because I would be pretty disappointed if he's just like, well, and that's all I have to tell you this time, and, you know, that we go back to Loki, and, you know, everybody's like, what the hell? You spent that whole three minutes talking about.
- [93:43]
A
That was a whole three minutes I'll never get back.
- [93:46]
B
Yeah, right. The three minutes about shaky, being a, you know, driver of the world economy and. And stuff, so.
- [93:53]
A
And, yes, I'm talking about the World Economic Journal.
- [93:57]
B
Yeah, it's a real Grandpa Simpson story.
- [94:00]
A
It went nowhere, Ken.
- [94:04]
E
All right, Not a lot to add. You guys pretty much covered everything. A lot of my thoughts are carrying over from last chapter, where I'm still enjoying the flashback ever since I started taking it less serious. Like, all right, it's more about the relationships, all these old pirates and whatnot. It doesn't fit in the Elbaf story. It does feel like Oda is just squeezing it in just to squeeze it in. The part that, like, I don't mind that, per se. The part that I keep thinking back to is the Loki flashback stops to say, hey, in order for Harold's death to, like, impact you emotionally, you need to know all this backstory first. And that's where the Harold flashback kind of, like, starts. And for a while, it was so focused on Harold, and now it's gone completely off course, which, again, like, as long as it comes back around, he still has 38 years to fill in before we get back to the present day of the flashback. Like, as long as he brings it on home, I think this is a great way of squeezing in some background information that had nowhere else to go. It works. I find it all interesting. I like seeing how the dots connect. I like seeing these kind of things. So I'm not too upset about it. I know people for comparing it to almost like fan fiction. Like, oh, here all your favorite pirates are all in one place doing all these fun things together. Like, I get it, but like, I'm still enjoying it. I don't know if that'll change over time, but as long as this lands and I end up caring about Harold right in time for the Loki flashback to start back up, then I'll consider it a win. If it just completely just turns into a rocks or Davey, like cry fest, then so be it. Trying to think that's about. I don't care that we haven't seen Shanks mom or Teach's mom. Like, if they're not going to be big important characters, then I could see him just never showing them and that's fine. The only reveal I could even possibly think of is if. Because we know the Davy clan is from God Valley. So if the woman that Shanks and Shamrock's mom, if she was part of the Davey clan, that makes Shanks a Davey, technically. And that could be because we don't know. Like, we know it's Figarlin Shanks. But like, okay, if his mom comes from the Davy clan, does that give him a D? Does that give him a Davey? Like, that's the only. That's the thing. Like, it doesn't matter. It really, at this point in the story, it does not matter if we know Shanks has an additional, like, lineage or ancestry. So, like, if his mom is a Davey, great. If not, it doesn't matter. So I don't expect to see Shanks mom. And I don't. I don't really care. I don't think it's gonna make a difference. And just I can't wait to see how God Valley wraps up. At this point, I'm convinced that because Zebeck said, like, he thinks fate is against him and that he'll do whatever he can to get his son off the island. I'm assuming that he intentionally loses to Garp and Roger because just for everything we've seen, like, he is a strong, like, he will not go down easy. And granted, you have the King of the Pirates Roger and you have marine hero Garp. Like, those are two very strong opponents. But like, I almost see like a scene afterwards like where it's Garp and Roger talking. It's like, is it just me or did he pull that last punch? Like, did he. Did he seem a little like, distracted to you? So I can see Zebec dying on God Valley, like, doing one last hurrah to get Teach on a boat off the island. And like, ah, my son will live on. My lineage will live on and who cares if I die? I stayed true to my word the entire time. That's his big issue with Harald is like, listen, you're the big king of Elbaf, but like you're sitting on like the laps of the world government trying to do this and that. You are the king. You can go out if you want to change Elbaf's name, go change Elbaf's name. You do not need the government to change the way people think about you. Meanwhile, Rocks unapologetically himself going out doing everything. So again, we have to see how it all wraps up. I'm. I'm enjoying it. I think if the God Valley stuff lands right, it's gonna be really effective. We just gotta wait and see.
- [98:14]
A
I'll try. Yeah, I'll try and make my thoughts quick. The. It's crazy how long Oda has been pulling the and my real name is Line because I made reference to Gold Roger, which. When did we find out that wasn't his like actual name? Was that Drum?
- [98:40]
B
Yeah, I think it was.
- [98:41]
D
It was the end of Drum.
- [98:43]
A
Yeah, that was the. That was the thing with Pareja. Yeah. So I think that's the first time you get something crazy like that. I feel like the first time he does this kind of lore drop was the Jack in the Box chapter at the end of any it's lobby where it's like. And you're related to this and this is like this. And the thing is, at the time I remember really enjoying that and thinking that that was crazy and cool. So like this might just be, you know, being a jaded old folk, you know, when it comes to this. Or maybe it's just because we've seen this, you know, card a lot. The Trafalgar Deep Water law is the most egregious of the examples in my opinion, because it really, I think is just to make that joke that he has that other secret name Trafalgar. We didn't know he was Trafalgar D Law, to be fair, until that, which I forget because it's just like, okay, he was just Trafalgar Law. Cool bad boy who hates Bread. That's all we knew about him. But there's a character I didn't really care about a lot who also had a very insanely tragic backstory that was executed very well.
- [100:03]
D
His name was Jesus Christ.
- [100:07]
A
Wow. I knew Law. I knew there were Law fans out there, but Law fans. Well, all that said, I think a lot of the criticisms I had last week, which were about, like, the disparate. The disparateness. Like, it felt very scattered and disconnected. The. The stuff we were seeing in this flashback. He's assuaging some of my concerns here because things do feel like they're kind of coming together. The only problem is, how is Harold going to factor into God Valley at all? He is on fire right now on the water. What is he gonna. Is he gonna. Like, I'm gonna say this. I think this was mentioned last week, like, oh, maybe we won't get the full God Valley thing now. If we do not get the full God Valley thing now and we have to go back a third time, I will be legitimately pissed. That is bad.
- [101:04]
D
That would be bad this time.
- [101:06]
A
Yeah, you do the rest of it now. I don't want any more shit.
- [101:10]
D
Yeah, I. I do wonder, like, if maybe he meant to do all of this during Kuma's flashback, but it was already running pretty long.
- [101:19]
A
I will say I was looking back at Kuma's flashback. Like, beside God Valley is, like, kind of at the beginning, and it's so it's front loaded. But the rest of it is Right, which makes it. Yeah, but the rest of it is. And I at the time gave a lot of similar criticism, and I understand that about that flashback, but I did with the caveat that we were talking about it in the middle of a story. So it's not like this is really, you know, going to change my opinions of it and also just how it looks. And I think Kuma's backstory, overall, I'm very fond of that story, and I think he executed it mostly pretty good. Pretty well. Like, I don't have a ton of complaints about that. And the God Valley stuff is pretty quick in that it is like, a chapter's worth. Maybe not even this one. Oh, it is that much.
- [102:21]
F
Something actually happening the whole time. He's always running away or something going on.
- [102:26]
A
Kuma is there. Yeah.
- [102:28]
B
Yeah. He doesn't understand the consequence of what's going on, but we do or we recognize starts.
- [102:38]
A
Sorry, I don't mean to.
- [102:39]
E
Kuma's shaky.
- [102:43]
A
Yeah, that's probably why it wasn't. It like, it's completely unrelated to anything.
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B
Girls. I don't know that. What?
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No, you know what?
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Shaky. Is that a fruit?
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I don't even think it's a chapter. Like, I think it goes through, you know, a chapter, but I don't.
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Well, because, remember, there was, like, a chapter ender where he. He meets Ginny and even cough, and they're like, don't you want to live? And blah, blah, blah.
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Not to get too into it. In 1095, the last. It's only the last two spreads, or it's not even the full two spreads. It's like three pages worth. And then the 1096, it's not even half the chapter, so it really is not that much of that. I think at the time, we were disappointed because we're like, tell us what's going to happen. But at the same time, I think we would have been. It would have really just killed the emotional resonance of that story. But now we're killing the emotional resonance of this story. That's kind of my. That's my qualm with it. It's like, Alex, were you the one who's like, if they could just make a flashback arc, he should just do it. Oda's in charge. He could do that if he wants.
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D
Yeah. Actually, this. I was actually thinking about this as we were talking, that maybe we should just classify this as the God Valley flashback arc and just have Elbaf Arc part one, Elbaf Arc part two in our rankings. Just because at this point, I feel.
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Like, no, I'm not gonna do that.
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I'm saying this is already longer than Whiskey Peak, right?
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Okay, well, yeah, maybe Little Garden. Yeah, it might be. I mean, the Odin flashback you could say the same thing for, though.
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That was gravy.
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A chunky one, I think. I don't even still significantly longer give.
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Up doing arc rankings at this point, because the flashbacks.
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I don't. It's. It's all in. It's all in context of. Of where it is in the story, though.
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Like, I don't want to litigate this right now.
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This is not important. I don't know why you brought that.
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Part of it is trying hard to connect it back to Elbaf Bell. It's like, oh, there's Gunko. Hey, look, there's summers. Like, they're still, like, sprinkling little things in there.
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Remember these guys that you saw earlier? Yeah, I feel like he better.
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No, I don't remember.
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People are gonna, like, complain that, like, oh, yeah, who are these guys again?
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We'll get back to them.
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This is I. And I. I've said this. I've said this several times now. But it reads better as a volume. The series. Most people read it as a volume. That's how. So, like, it's. I. I want to caveat every single thing can stop making fun of me as I hold a volume of one piece up the. Yeah, I know I want to caveat every criticism I'm giving with that. That being said, it is. I think he does make some vast improvements this week in connecting the dots. The. The Davey clan thing. I am not as annoyed about, like, the hat on the hat with the Buccaneers. I think those are different stories. And I think we talked about Blackbeard's like, like, bloodline before or, you know, he's a special genes or whatever it is. Like, that's come up a lot in the story going back a little bit of a ways. So it's been something planted. The Kuma one is, if anything, kind of the weird one out of nowhere. Oda does a lot of these out of nowhere things. I mean, what he's usually very good at is, I think we've talked about this before. He could make a retcon look like it wasn't, you know, a retcon. That is his expertise. And he's slipping a little here. I feel like with some of these, like, he sets up, he. He, like, he puts, you know, A, not knowing how he's gonna get to, you know, not knowing the end. He'll put A and B down and then he's like, I have A and B over there. Should I use those? Okay, I'll use those. Now that's, I think, how he treats the story, and I think he's doing that a lot here. But I think maybe it's just us since we're. We do this every week and we're like, so looking at all the minutia, like, I think there's something to be said about that. Like that. That it's clouding our.
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Too close to the forest to see the trees or whatever that saying is. Like, you just so zoomed in that it's hard to take a step back at times.
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Yeah, I know. I think that's absolutely correct. I think the dragon stuff was really cool too. We talked about a little bit about, like, the political messages. I really. I was thinking of the same thing as you golfer with the. With the Navy, because it. Or with the Marines, because it is always like, oh, I know they're doing evil things, but there's really cool characters there that are trying to do good. I'm like, yeah, but like someone who's really good would just leave that system and try and change it. Which is kind of, I guess, what Dragon is. I'm actually surprised how similar to. On a different note, how similar he looks to Luffy. It's like the first time he's had any facial features that look Luffy ish. We'll see. You know how Luffy ish. But. But yeah, like the Marines are very clearly just the worst here. Like as an organization. But at the same time, you know why Dragon joined? Because he is Garp son. And he has been raised on that probably his whole life. And unlike Luffy, probably didn't have enough like a few gramps. Like, I mean, they didn't. He probably was a little bit of a better father than he was a grandfather Garp. But I don't know. Maybe that's a guess. But it is interesting to see that. But my boy Morgan's is a kid. He's a little newsboy here. And that's really all I care about this chapter. And I'm gonna end it there. Any other thoughts?
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F
I'm really curious to see if any of the other revolutionaries are here or any of the ones that we know of were here at this moment. I don't know if any of them are old enough other than Eva specific Eva and Kuma. But any of the ones that are on his crew initially when we first meet the revolutionaries. Or is that a ragtag group that he's kind of picked up over time? Kind of like Sabo, like taking people in as he goes or if he convinced other marines to leave.
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A
So the. In that flashback, in the Kuma one, I mean, the ones you see are Ginny, Kuma, even Cough and Dragon. Like those are the recognizable ones. Oh, you mean like the new ones? I think they're all too. They might be young, I don't know. Like Lindbergh and the one who's a crow. Karasu, Right. And the rest. Lindbergh. Why is that the name that I remember? I don't know. He's the bunny guy. Any other. Any other thoughts? Okay, let's move on into some piece together.
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This is the Piece Together segment where we take your questions, comments and theories and decide and determine whether they're as good as Kozuki Wanze. Because that theory untouchable. Alex, please get that image out of my mind.
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D
Okay, Davy D. Satori. How about that?
- [111:41]
A
Oh, get the hell out of my life. I. I do want to also take a moment to thank Donald Kirby who is doing our art this week because I did in our shortest intro segment ever. I forgot to mention that. So you should check out the alternate episode art on Patreon stuff. It's some good stuff this week. Alex, please.
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D
All right, well, this is a little something we like to call Diz Ps.
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B
I think we have one from the fourth from Canty Cathalion.
- [112:21]
D
Yeah, I'll start with that one. Yeah. Canty Cathalion says. Hey Opp, while listening to Raley's Creek, a random tin hat theory popped in my mind regarding God Valley. If it is true that some races migrated to the planet from other planets, could God Valley be where they crash landed? Hmm. Maybe that's what caused the split in the mountain. So they named it God Valley due to Gods landing there. Of course, I have absolutely zero evidence to back this up. I like it.
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B
That would be cool.
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A
That pops into my head too. Like I don't think we mentioned.
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B
Oh, you're taking credit for this, huh?
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D
Yeah, I Forgot.
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A
Yeah, I'm doing it right now.
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D
I forgot we're in the same arc where we saw the giant mural.
- [113:04]
B
Yeah.
- [113:05]
D
Jesus. I'm gonna. You know, like, I'm gonna have to start rereading one piece from the beginning. It's been a while.
- [113:10]
A
Yeah, I. I need to do that too. I was thinking about doing that soon. You know, like, I love working from home as much as I do, but if I were commuting, that is definitely the 10. That's definitely what I would do or when I would do that. Yeah.
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I.
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A
How long have we been in this flashback? I'm. I'm trying to see by episode art probably, like, what June 30th was. The fir. Was. Are we the biggies? Which is the. Which was our first episode of him. So we're in September, which I had to look at because I forgot. So it's been all summer. It's been a summer of giants and summer of. Not really giants, actually. Some giants summer of. Some giants summers, but not really a summer of George.
- [114:00]
D
Supposed to be the summer of killing him. Then they deassified him.
- [114:03]
A
They did De Assifiable. I am so, so pissed about that. Yeah, we had golfer on in July, and we. That was like. We were already in the rock stuff because that was the. Is Moo a pigeon was the title.
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B
Yeah.
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D
Yeah.
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F
We were back in the flower capital.
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D
Oh, man.
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A
The flower. You mean that's wano. You mean in the. Oh, yeah, yeah. The butterfly.
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F
The butterfly room.
- [114:33]
A
The butterfly room. Nothing. Nothing more sinister than butterflies.
- [114:40]
D
Killing him. Toxic Seahorse looking all right.
- [114:45]
A
He's supposed to be a bad guy. Make him look like a dick, I guess.
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Kingdoji. I know him. Kingdoji says. Hey, Opp. This chapter feels like it really suffered from the issues Greg was talking about where everyone has to be connected to everything. Now we have that Blackbeard is Evic's son, so already pretty infamous, but is also part of the Davy clan, which ties back to the void century now with Davey D. Jones mostly commenting here to share my opinion because I'm sure you've already talked this to death, but I'll add a question otherwise. Do you have a go to for one piece merch, or is it more of a see it, gotta have it deal for you? I personally love box lunch for clothing and tchotchkes.
- [115:26]
A
Golfer, do you have. Do you have a lot of one piece merch or.
- [115:28]
F
No, I do, but it's because I got to go to the Mugiwara store in Shinjuku. I just. I went Absolutely bonkers. The one thing that we're sold out of was the. The Wanted posters. And I was actually surprised to see that, like there were zero Wanted posters. But I've got like a. Of course you can't see it on the podcast, but I've got like a chopper pen. I've got all the different pens for all of them. I. I was such a kid in the candy store that like when I went to check out, they were like, you spent $400? You also get this plastic bag to take everything out in. And I was like, oh, yes, please. Thank you so much. I'll take anything you give me for free. So I've got all these like, punch cards that I can't use anywhere.
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E
Oh, God.
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D
Zach, you have the book with all of them in it, right?
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A
Yeah, forget like my merch. I could show everyone else.
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D
We used all of our. We. I think we used up all of our punch cards. So get all. Like, we could get as many as possible. That was such a fun trip. And we went.
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A
I do have those. Oh my God, I want to do it again.
- [116:27]
D
How many mugiwar stores did we go to?
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Not enough. At least three because there was the pop up in. So there's one in Shibuya that was like, yeah, new or Tempo. Oh, no, they moved it because I went to the one in Shibuya in 2013 during my first trip, which you could see on opp japan.com.
- [116:44]
D
Oh, yeah, we've got to release, by the way, the footage from the second opponent.
- [116:49]
A
We've released some, but I agree. Yeah.
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D
Because we have that whole interview that Greg had with the.
- [116:54]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we also have other interviews that we've recorded that. Yes, but they're in Japanese and.
- [117:01]
D
Yeah, we gotta really work on that because that's. Yeah, we have a lot of good that has never seen the light of day.
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A
Wait a. Yeah, I know. Way to call me out. No way. Hold me accountable.
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D
On the air.
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A
Yeah, on the air. No, that's. That's the way that it'll get. It'll. It'll get the fire under my ass a little more. No, I've been thinking about that recently too. Store is the right answer, though.
- [117:23]
D
Yes. I do want to say that. Merch wise, for me, the one thing that we get every year is usually the. The calendar. I haven't seen a list for it yet.
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A
It should be. Yeah, it's a little late. I thought it was usually in July too.
- [117:36]
D
Yeah. Maybe the turfs are going to affect it. Well, I don't know, we usually get it via DHL anyway so that's probably.
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Does DHL go around that?
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D
Yeah.
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A
Oh it does. Why?
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D
Yeah.
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Well you know what?
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D
I don't know how.
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Not gonna ask.
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D
I'm not gonna ask that either. Merch wise for me it's usually like volumes or Libra cards but I've been getting the sh. Figure Arts Romance dawn figures when they've been coming out and those are really awesome. And yeah, I just like. I like a toy. I'll buy a toy like once every couple years.
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F
The, the kind of like Gundam assembly ships that you can buy. So they've got like.
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Basically I want to do that at this point.
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D
Those models are neat. Yeah.
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I want to do the, the one that I've wanted but I have not been able to pull the trigger on because I think it's like 400 for. So for many reasons. Is the. Was it the, the Sunny with like all the little like it's like an extremely detailed Sunny.
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D
Yes. It's the soul of Chokin.
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That's it.
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D
I've got the Going Mary one which rocks.
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I would like that one too.
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That's probably still my favorite piece of one piece merch that I have.
- [118:47]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
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D
But the Thousand Sunny one. I. I could never justify the price because.
- [118:54]
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No, it's too much.
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It's too scaled of that Going Mary and it's humongous. I don't know where the I put it.
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Yeah. That I would have. Yeah. Yeah. Also I have. Yeah.
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I was gonna say it's not the Mugiwara store, but it does seem like. I don't know how it is anywhere else, but at least in Southern California it feels like like the weakness in the like the mall commercial space has led to a proliferation of like anime merch stores. Like there's just. There's so much like, you know, jump tie ins and. And other stuff. I feel like there's just. There's a flourishing industry that, that wasn't there like five years ago or so with all the, you know, you can get all the lounge fly stuff of course. Like they, they'll, they'll license anything and like. Yeah, I don't know. I, I couldn't even tell you like the names of them but they're basically like Hot Topic or Spencer's Goods but it's just like, like it's just all Japanese stuff and they'll have all the figures there to buy as well and stuff like that. I've seen a bunch of them recently.
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D
I will say that whenever I visited La. I usually go to Book off and Anime Jungle Love.
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A
Book Off.
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D
They usually have. Yeah, Book Off. The one in Little Tokyo in particular is really cool. And it's funny because Josh will occasionally post stuff on the Discord. I'm like, oh, I know where you.
- [120:24]
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Were just because you were following him.
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But no, occasionally, like they'll have really like Book off in particular. We have really, really old one piece merch back from when it says from TV animation on the lower.
- [120:38]
A
Yeah, that's how you know. That's how you know.
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D
And that's, yeah, that's, that's, that's the indicator of, of how old and, and, and crazy it is.
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A
So if anyone's making bootleg merch, put that on it. So that. Alex, what's next?
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D
Yes, next is from NZL who says, hey Opp, I've been doing a full series read through for the first time in 10 years and boy has it felt like the perfect time for it. I got to Little Garden right before.
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More pressure for. Yeah, yeah, sorry, go.
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D
I got to Little Garden right before the Domi Reversi, which made it sting even more this past week. I just finished Thriller Bark. So the Moria stuff last week was super interesting. I just got to Shibandi now, so reading the shacky stuff extra hard. Apparently her and Rayleigh have an open relationship, seeing as when she's introduced, he's out gambling or looking for girls. I think that's also very typical of like old. I've had, you know, I've. I've fucking had it. Japanese man, salary man. Right.
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Also, he also probably just said he was doing that and wasn't. He's probably. I'm gonna choose to believe that at least.
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Maybe. No, I think he's, I don't know, old.
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I think he's probably gambling, but I.
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Don'T know, old drunk.
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They're throwing themselves at him.
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Yeah, right. That's more.
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D
I've also been trying to pay extra attention to Kuma after his flashback, but feel like nothing has jumped out at me as extra interesting. My question for this week though is more random. Is the Gidatsu cover story the least important one in the whole series? All the others involved characters who come back are showing us something maybe important, but for Gidatsu, all we get is seeing Vivi and nothing else. Did I miss something? Or is this the least relevant cover story ever? Or are the holes gdatsu digs how everyone will arrive for the final war. Joking, but if not, you heard it here first. Can't wait to Be proven right in 10 years during my next reread.
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10 years. I love the Gidatsu one. I haven't read it in a while.
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D
But remember loving it. I think that it also brought into the fold. What, like that? Oh, yeah. The confirmation that Pell is still like. Like kicking, right?
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No, no, I think he's back with.
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Vivi and all them.
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Yeah, there was a lot of cool stuff because you got to see Alabaster again, which was fun, I think. I guess Skypie is directly above Alabaster at that moment. Right. Didn't he fall from the sky or so I. Trying to remember how that happened. I mean, I haven't read that in a while.
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B
No, he landed on like an island or something.
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A
Okay, okay, okay.
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D
Hot Spring island or some.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then dug a hole and it went to Alabasta. I think that's how that worked. Yeah. I mean, I like Gatsu a lot too.
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D
I did think about this very recently, about how, like, which is the. Like, which is the COVID story that just has just. It's just garbage. Like, it's just. It's just junk food and it. I thought. I thought it might have been Caribou. I forgot that Caribou had a story.
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No, that one's good.
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I mean Gaburu.
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Gaburu.
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B
Yeah.
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No, look, you want to talk about like. Like, although Caribou is not the political movement there, but he's kind of. It's thrust upon him. I think it's fun. I like that one, actually. I hate Caribou. Don't get me wrong.
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I gotta reread that one. It's been. It's been so long.
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A
It was a little annoying at the time because again, when you're, like, in it. And it was Dressrosa too, wasn't it? Like, it was. It wasn't at the. I feel like the whole story just felt very long. But. But dead Grandma, come on. That stuff has, you know.
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I guess Gadatsu might be at least relevant.
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Relevant. Yeah, I guess. Like, how much do you want to care about relevance? Yeah. In the COVID story. Yeah. I'm trying to think of other. Yeah, I can't think of anything else.
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I think one of the most innocuous ones is probably the CP9 one. Because, like.
- [124:23]
A
Yeah, that makes no fricking sense in.
- [124:26]
D
Like, even if they showed up again in the series, you'd be like, okay, I didn't need to know how this happened. Happened. But the Jango Full Body story is very fun. And the Jinbe one is interesting because it has the poneglyphs, I guess.
- [124:38]
A
Yeah. The Jinbei one is consequential. And it's also about like a straw hat kind of.
- [124:43]
E
Until Eniru comes off the moon and comes back into the story. That one is like, it's cool, it's fascinating. But it's the only one that has not like even hinted at the world that was left behind kind of thing.
- [124:56]
D
Ken, Zach would want to have a word about that.
- [125:01]
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No, I mean it's interesting cover story, but it has not played a role in the current story yet. Where even like the ones that like, you could say like, oh well, caribou showed up later on. Caribou is. We still talk about caribou today. Anaru has not played a part in the story since that cover story.
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I think most Gadatsu aside, I'm gonna say the COVID stories have different trigger times as to when they become important. But I think they all get Datsu aside become important in some way shape or form. Like waffles is, you know, comes back is extremely important. But. But he doesn't really come back into the story until the Reverie stuff, which was way after that cover story happened. Like we. A lot of people talk about like, oh wow, this rocks. Reveal. This was. This was a really long time Oda was sitting and I'm like, are you kidding me? He has been sitting on some. He has sat on things way longer than. Than that.
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Yes.
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F
And Nell feels like a gun. Like he's just so powerful that he's just gonna show up at one point and really mess something up.
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A
Well, that's why.
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That's why I like the Moria. That's why I like the Moria stuff so much. Because okay, he drops the Kozuki Moria like the last time we saw them. Like he was on Pirate island being saved by Koby and Perona. And Oda has not shown us him like or even hinted at him since then. So I feel like he's cooking something. So he dropped that in the Yamato cover story. Like, hey, just so you know, this is gonna be important real soon. It feels very timed.
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I wanna make Stephen angry.
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F
Page six. The kid looks like Moria at least putting red circles on everything.
- [126:40]
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I saw that too. And like, nah, I gave up on that real quick.
- [126:43]
D
How old is Moria? Do we have an age?
- [126:44]
E
Age 50.
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D
Does that add up?
- [126:47]
E
Yeah, it does add up. But.
- [126:51]
D
Where is horns? Cuz when he's a kid he's supposed to have horns, so.
- [126:55]
F
Oh, he doesn't have horns.
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D
Yeah, yeah.
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Moria Mor is currently 50i.
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A
That's just such a generic looking.
- [127:03]
B
What if he was just present and victimized by some tragic circumstance in every major event in the world?
- [127:12]
A
You got it, Stephen.
- [127:13]
D
Yeah, Got him. Got him.
- [127:15]
A
He's the. He's. He's. His full name is actually Kozuki Gekko Moria. Mary Sue David. I guess that's the end. Davey D and ends with a D.
- [127:28]
D
For I can't believe we didn't make a Davey and Goliath joke.
- [127:31]
A
Well, too late for that.
- [127:33]
D
That's what we could have called it because Harold and Zebe.
- [127:39]
A
Damn it, we still can. I mean, this is bad.
- [127:43]
E
Oh, Davey, that was a crazy wavelength.
- [127:45]
A
Look, it's either getting that was a crazy getting your rocks off or Davey and Goliath. Those are your choices.
- [127:52]
D
Honestly, we save for next week. Who knows what's gonna happen?
- [127:54]
A
That's true.
- [127:55]
D
Yeah, you can.
- [127:56]
A
I'm sure. Herald is not on fire. Go ahead.
- [127:59]
B
Leftovers are still good.
- [128:03]
D
We got some more disputes. Peopley Labubu's Gunko Pop don't like that.
- [128:08]
B
Jesus.
- [128:09]
D
That would be Slay says hello, my fellow platoon leaders. My word. Finger Land Garlic continues to be such a pain in the ass. Now he's asking for the preparations for this hunt. That sounds wordy. Let's just say Preparation H for short. Anywho, everyone's favorite character checks notes. Don Marlin seems to be off. Oh, no, I'm sure there's some.
- [128:31]
A
Hey, I like Tom Marlin and I'm upset about it. I'm the person.
- [128:35]
D
I'm sure there are some out there who really love him, but do any of you have some niche favorites in this series? For instance, I think Guernica is cool, even though I also hate him. Have a good week, y'. All.
- [128:43]
A
Who?
- [128:44]
D
Guernica.
- [128:45]
A
Oh, Quernica. Oh, that's. That's Josh's bow.
- [128:49]
D
Josh. That's Josh's. That's Josh's.
- [128:51]
A
I do love that design. I want to say Guernica's design is Meow meow. His. Like, it's like half a mask. Like, you can't tell if it's. I love that. That's excellent.
- [129:03]
D
Well, everybody knows that Django is my favorite character.
- [129:06]
A
Yes.
- [129:07]
D
Yeah. Oh, I don't even. I don't think.
- [129:08]
A
Alex, I haven't.
- [129:09]
D
Anybody.
- [129:09]
A
I haven't gotten to ask if you watched Speaking of One Piece Day, which we talked about the very beginning of the podcast. Did you see that promotional short that featured you? But you were really buff.
- [129:19]
D
Yeah, like, oh, where's the Jungle. Where's the jungle station? Yeah, I saw, like, a little bit of that. I definitely felt seen. I felt seen, actually.
- [129:31]
A
You were called out.
- [129:33]
D
There are dozens of us.
- [129:34]
A
This is why representation is important, specifically for Django fans. Real old kids.
- [129:42]
E
I like Charlotte Cato. That's big Mom's kid. Who is the pumpkin guy?
- [129:47]
D
Oh, that's cool.
- [129:48]
A
That's a fun design.
- [129:49]
E
Yeah, I love him.
- [129:51]
D
Yeah, that's an excellent design.
- [129:54]
F
Golfer, what was the question?
- [129:57]
A
Oh, niche characters. Yeah. Do you have, like, a favorite niche character that you can't really think of other people like? Loving, I guess, is Come back to me on that.
- [130:06]
F
Sorry, I was checking my fantasy football because James cooked. It's getting. It's getting hairy right now.
- [130:12]
A
Wow. Fake nerd. Let's talk about Star Trek, Alex.
- [130:18]
D
Yeah, so I ordered a Miles o' Brien figure to go with my Julian Bashir.
- [130:24]
A
Okay. That's pretty cool. I want to talk about ebay.
- [130:26]
D
Yeah. There's Diamond Selects toys that are.
- [130:29]
A
Can you send those to me? You could torture the Miles o'. Brien. It's perfect. You could just. Okay, I wanted.
- [130:35]
D
I have a. I have a Bashir, but I wanted a friend for him, and they don't make a Garrick, so I feel like o'. Brien.
- [130:40]
A
You can make them kiss.
- [130:42]
D
I could make them kiss. Canonically, that would.
- [130:44]
A
That also. Canonically. Yeah, that's if people should watch Lower Decks, too. If they're watching Star Trek stuff. It is very good. Anyway, Glub Shittos, I guess, is what we're talking about.
- [130:58]
D
You have a Glop shito, don't you?
- [130:59]
A
Strawberry Morgan's strawberry is, like, my joke club shito. I just always thought it'd be more important.
- [131:05]
B
It wasn't real.
- [131:08]
A
No. But, like, no, you all are the people who made it into a big deal. Like, I just brought him up too much.
- [131:14]
B
Oh, it's our fault.
- [131:15]
D
Sure, yeah.
- [131:16]
A
Yes. Yes. I'm taking credit for things I didn't say, and I'm blaming other people for things that I did.
- [131:22]
D
Alex, gonna change the narrative saying that that Barry Good was always his favorite.
- [131:27]
A
This is why I should edit the podcast still, so I could. Anyway, Alex, what's the next question?
- [131:36]
D
All right, this is from Refrigerated Wife Patch.
- [131:40]
A
Wow, that's on the nose.
- [131:43]
D
It's like they knew what we were talking about earlier. Hey, they're op.
- [131:47]
A
Maybe we're predictable.
- [131:49]
D
So far, Cherry Pie man has had so many different names. He was conceived as Everything D. Teach, and then his name was revealed as Marshall D. Teach. With our localization Even naming him Teach. Then we even get the idea. Then we get the idea that he could be Rocks. D. Teach. And now he's DVD Teach and he goes by Blackbeard. How many more names is this one guy gonna have? How many more moms have to die before Davey? Rocks, Marshal, Everything. Cherry Pie, D. Water, Law, Blackbeard, Teach. Teach can finally reveal his super secret Ultra Hidden.
- [132:20]
E
That's pretty good.
- [132:20]
B
Yeah. I was thinking about this. Maybe it is. Maybe these are just like jokes like that. That is like Rocks was like his parents or his. His ancestors or whatever were fans of the monkeys and Law's parents were just fans of ABBA.
- [132:38]
F
So this all feels like we're getting to a JoJo's reference. Like this is.
- [132:41]
B
Yeah, exactly.
- [132:41]
F
We're descending into everybody.
- [132:44]
A
You know what?
- [132:45]
D
I think it would be really joke.
- [132:46]
A
But he could.
- [132:48]
D
And. And amazing if like ultimately one piece. Like by the end of the series you find out that it's a prequel to. To JoJo Part 3 or something. It was just like the long con.
- [133:05]
A
Yeah. What a poll. That would be like. Hey, you know the series is. It wasn't even that important. It was just a prequel to this.
- [133:13]
D
Or like Rohan was writing this the whole time or something. Rohan? Is that the guy's name?
- [133:18]
A
Yeah.
- [133:18]
D
The mangaka.
- [133:19]
A
Rohan. Yeah, yeah.
- [133:24]
B
Yeah.
- [133:24]
A
Go ahead.
- [133:25]
B
What was the eye patch? He calls him Cherry Pie Man. So like maybe BlackBerry? What was that? Warrant or Rat or one of those.
- [133:33]
E
Warrant. She's my. Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
- [133:38]
D
Continue, Sailor Karna says. Hey Opp. This chapter, or rather this backstory, is a soap opera to the max.
- [133:45]
A
Agree.
- [133:46]
D
At this point, it is what it is. And I'm sure Luffy has long since checked out. Lots of answers have been given.
- [133:53]
A
Wow. Three minutes. I can't listen to that.
- [133:55]
D
But we still don't know Garland's motive. Why even have children with someone from God Valley. And now it makes sense why Roger was able to raise Shanks. Because Garland gave two ships about him in the first place.
- [134:05]
A
Place.
- [134:05]
D
I know I'm focused on Garland too much, but he's the reason why God Valley is a canon event. It's true.
- [134:12]
B
I've got a feeling Shanks was in one of the chests, Right? That's how.
- [134:16]
F
Yes, that's how Roger finds him.
- [134:18]
D
Yeah.
- [134:20]
F
Garling is like the. The 24 year old guy who every girl his age, every woman his age is repulsed by him. So he has to go to like troll around high schools. So Garland can't get anybody in Marijua, so he has to Find people on future enslaved islands.
- [134:38]
A
I mean, yeah, he's really the worst. And that tracks because he should be. There's like. Yeah, no, there's very few people in the series as despicable as he is, and we've seen so little. And also, his design sucks.
- [134:54]
B
He did say, and this is not a defensive, but he did say last chapter, that, you know, he found something on God Valley that would make Emu very interested. Right. And I don't know if that means. Right, he found the Davey clan. Like, he found Teach or something, or if he's referring to something else. I mean, I.
- [135:13]
A
You know, again, I think it's the.
- [135:16]
B
Davy clan, probably most likely, but I.
- [135:19]
E
Assume they found Uranus like the ancient weapon.
- [135:23]
A
I'm gonna say I think it's the Davey clan because the Kill Rocks order, they must have put two and two together. The government, despite what they're saying here.
- [135:33]
E
No, because Rox is like, them taking Shacky is a complete coincidence. They don't really know about.
- [135:39]
A
No, the shaky part, but.
- [135:41]
E
Well, yeah, because Harold said, oh, they're luring you into a trap. Like, nah, they don't want me there. They don't even know I'm coming. They just picked like. It's just. It's very, like, unfortunate this is happening. They have no idea his lineage, I don't think.
- [135:57]
B
Yeah, so maybe they. Yeah, so maybe Garling found the Davey clan. They didn't realize that Rocks was also in the Davey clan. That was just a coincidence.
- [136:05]
A
Yeah, the Killing Rocks order, though, is like an in that from the five Elders.
- [136:11]
E
Specifically, Rocks broke into Emu's chamber and, like, he's pretty high on the wanted list.
- [136:16]
B
They were like. They were like, punking Harold. Like, oh, yeah, you want to. We'll kill Rocks then.
- [136:20]
A
True.
- [136:21]
E
He's your best friend. You talk to him all the time. Nerd.
- [136:27]
A
They loved each other. Come on. Yaoi fanfics.
- [136:31]
D
Okay, we gotta. We got a bunch more of these.
- [136:33]
A
Oh, yeah, do it.
- [136:35]
D
Sorry. Big Mike says, here's part two of my Kuja question from last week. If Glorioso is able to get over her love sickness, but the person she loved was Roger, does that mean Roger had to help her get over her lovesickness? And Ace has an older sister. Also, is it possible that the Lily in Amazon Lily is named after Nefertari D. Lily and she founded the Aladdin 100 years ago? Since Amazon Lily and Alabaster are based on Greece and Egypt, which have historically intersected with each other. And part of the reason why Hancock and her sisters were kidnapped was because World Government was looking for Roger or Lily's descendants. And Shakky was a prize because IMU has first dibs on Kuja women to see if they're Lily's descendants. Otherwise, Garland could have.
- [137:16]
A
You're reading this in the most condescending way.
- [137:19]
D
No, sorry. I started becoming Gavin from Kids in the hall for a second. It's quite long. I'm sorry, Big Mike. I'm not doing this to make fun of you.
- [137:30]
A
No, it's just. We're getting tired. We're at that point.
- [137:33]
D
It's true.
- [137:35]
A
People don't need to know the time. It's whatever time. You're listening to this.
- [137:40]
D
I thought the Lily and Amazon insert time pun for their sexual orientations. Like how Kamabaka was a pun for crossdressers. Since Japanese for Lily as Yuri. And only the straight Kuja get the lovesickness. Or maybe it still is. And Lily is the Sappho of One Piece World. And Amazon. Lily is based on the island of Lesbos. That's in Greece. Yeah, you pronounce that perfectly, so well, it is lesbos. P.S. don't be so anti. Luffy and Hancock having a kid. Let them enjoy life.
- [138:09]
A
Okay, I don't. Luffy doesn't. I don't want him to know. What? That. I don't want him to do that. I've broken golfer a little bit, but I just don't understand why.
- [138:25]
B
Yeah, it's funny because, like, yeah, we.
- [138:28]
F
Don'T have zero for this one, so we can't do the. You would need to do the Luffy Ace or no. Yeah, the Luffy asexual fan fix. You would need to. To bump the number up. I'm pretty sure that number was really low.
- [138:40]
A
I'm sure it is very low. And also, I mean, how many asexual fan fictions are on AO3 Yuri Thunderdome or something? Five. Thank you, Ken. Ken says five. What were you gonna say, Stephen?
- [138:54]
B
I. I mean, I was saying that, like, when you. When you kind of just shove it all together like this and. And read it in a funny way, it does seem ridiculous. But there's a. There's a lot of, like, kind of interesting tangents that you can draw between these things. At least as far as, like, you know, Lily and Emu's obsession with Lily, and maybe there's something, you know, maybe there's a possibility there for a storyline. But I didn't even. It's also like.
- [139:24]
A
Yeah, but she was the Queen of Alabaster, right? Like, that was the whole thing. Like it. Yeah.
- [139:28]
E
But she never returned. Yeah.
- [139:30]
B
Yeah.
- [139:33]
A
I don't know. It's possible. I was gonna say the God Valley stuff kind of reminded me. I've been, like, making up stories with my son to, like, distract him in the bathroom. So when he hears this in 10 years, please no. Like to, like, entertain him while that's going on. And that this is what those feel like. Because they always. When he interrupts and adds things, it's like. Yeah. And there are 15 fire trucks and they're. Yeah. And there's this. And there's this, and it's like, you know, playing with your dollies and it just, like everything starts, you know, that's kind of what God Valley has felt like to me for the good and the bad of. Of that. Yep. That's all I got. This question kind of reminded me of that. Alex, we have one more.
- [140:27]
D
Two more.
- [140:28]
A
Two more.
- [140:29]
D
This one's from Kramel Amalar, who says, ahoy, Davey P's podcast banger chapters. Always. My first name. Indeed. My first. Our secret hidden Name.
- [140:39]
A
Our secret hidden name.
- [140:41]
D
My first read through was standing on a very busy train, and thus was super unfocused. Now that I've reread it, I appreciate it more. The reveal doesn't mean loads to me yet, other than opening up possibilities about Blackbeard's lineage and maybe why his body is quite. Is quote unquote weird. Oh, and how it's funny that in English format, Davy Jones is Jones Davy in the OP world. It's true love seeing baby Dragon and how totally unpolitical his sections were with the Marines actively warning him not to have his own opinions. Love how this series has no woke politics.
- [141:12]
A
There it is.
- [141:13]
D
My question this week pertains to Dragon. Do you think he'll do more this flashback than he has the entire series thus far total? Sure seems that way. Have a beautiful week.
- [141:21]
A
The Kuma flashback. He did more than. I don't think we're gonna see too much more of Dragon. Well, I think we're gonna see him radicalization of Dragon.
- [141:31]
E
I think we're gonna see him put shanks in the chest as, like, a protection kind of thing.
- [141:36]
A
Yeah, probably Dragon specifically, you think is gonna be the one.
- [141:40]
E
Yeah, because Dragon's with the mom right now and the two babies, and she's saying, please save our kids. See my kids.
- [141:46]
A
True God.
- [141:48]
E
So he's gonna, like, go quick, charge, shove shanks in there. And then as he's gonna do, Shamrock Garland's gonna walk in like, where are my children?
- [141:55]
D
No, no, no, no, no, no. This is. This will be great. Like, two of those chests, I guess, are empty or whatever because I guess the fruits are stolen by Ivankopf, right? Yep. And those two empty chests.
- [142:09]
B
Yeah.
- [142:10]
D
He's gonna put both the kids in each chest. And garling, like, at the very end is like, well, I guess I'll collect my prize. And he opens it up and it's his own kid. And he gets super pissed.
- [142:20]
A
Shit. That might. That might happen. Like, Roger steals one of the chests as a baby. It's like, why is there a baby in here?
- [142:30]
D
Why is it my baby? Disappointed.
- [142:34]
A
Wow. This. That. There is a non zero chance that that happens for sure.
- [142:39]
E
It's gonna be something silly like that. It's very great.
- [142:42]
A
I want a full Eneru fault face when he sees that. Oh, my God.
- [142:47]
B
Yeah.
- [142:47]
A
Well, actually, no, no, no.
- [142:49]
B
I. Yeah, he's gonna. He's gonna do the. The Odin and Whitebeard face.
- [142:56]
A
Wow, Steven. People couldn't see that, but that was an excellent Odin face. Yes.
- [143:01]
F
I was distracted by the cat.
- [143:03]
B
Yeah, Simba was crazy.
- [143:05]
F
Simba showed up.
- [143:06]
B
He's in my office now.
- [143:07]
A
Simba's our mascot.
- [143:09]
E
Is that Simba's real name?
- [143:12]
A
Oh, yeah. What's Simba's super secret?
- [143:14]
B
Okay, well, the only. The only lore I have to share about Simba is that he was. He was a bit of a stray when my. My in laws found him. Like, he was just coming up to the door. And they didn't know he was a boy at first, so they were initially calling him Nala.
- [143:31]
A
Oh, wait, that is kind of a one piece backstory. No, Your name is.
- [143:37]
D
That's right, Alex.
- [143:40]
C
We got one more.
- [143:41]
D
This is from Sheepman. Beep bop bop bop. Howdy opp. If any of you had one character you can see bearing the initial D, who would it be and why? We still don't know the full story behind the D, but the bits and pieces in play already and the cheeky reference to Sabo being or having one in that flashback where Luffy refers to him at Sa Dee Bo. I did think before that scene that Sabo could have one to connect the three brothers even more. Doesn't seem to be the case with how irrelevant and lame his parents are. Actually, I don't think Sabo has one because he comes from.
- [144:15]
F
Celestial Dragons.
- [144:16]
D
Yeah.
- [144:16]
A
No, no, no, no, no. He comes from really rich.
- [144:20]
E
No, he's royalty.
- [144:20]
A
Yeah.
- [144:21]
D
Oh, he's just royalty. Okay.
- [144:22]
A
No, he's not even royalty. I think they're Just like aristocrats of Goa.
- [144:26]
B
Yeah, yeah, Goa.
- [144:28]
E
Stelli's the king now, so his family must.
- [144:31]
A
Right. Oh, no. I mean, yeah, you could. You know, you could get elected king, like, in Star Wars.
- [144:39]
E
There are many ways to become K. Yeah, totally.
- [144:42]
A
But to be fair, Szabo's and Steli's dad was voiced by the same person as Brook, so therefore, royalty. Yeah, that's my fun fact.
- [144:52]
B
Goa actually had a really beautiful and vibrant, you know, representative democracy until Steli.
- [144:59]
A
He's like, oh, President. Wait, no, this is actually too real. Is that it?
- [145:06]
F
Alex, the original B clan member? Is that what he's asking?
- [145:11]
B
If there was. Yeah, if. Who. Who was most likely to be a secret D. Nami.
- [145:17]
F
Oh, gotcha.
- [145:19]
A
Simba is just staring into your soul there, Steven.
- [145:23]
E
I don't want any more secret Ds. I feel like the Nefertari reveal was like, the last good. There we go. Like Nefertari D. Lily. Like, that, to me, was a good punch. I don't want any word.
- [145:32]
A
That was a good. That was actually. That was probably one of the better, better D reveals. Because it's like, for the reason it was done.
- [145:43]
D
I didn't. I didn't hate it.
- [145:46]
A
And the way it was done, I think was better than.
- [145:49]
E
I mean.
- [145:49]
A
Okay, what other D reveals have we had? Like, oh, my God. Besides gold. Roger.
- [145:55]
D
Actually, do you know what? I think that. I think that Frankie could be revealed B.
- [146:00]
A
A D Cyborg D. Frankie. Or a thousand D. Sunny. Is this.
- [146:06]
D
You know, the fact that his father was a famous pirate or something? Yeah, the thread that never, ever, ever got reopened.
- [146:14]
A
You know what? That might be one of those things.
- [146:16]
E
That was clean with his father. Or was that.
- [146:18]
D
That's just a fan theory.
- [146:19]
A
That was fan theory.
- [146:21]
E
Gotcha.
- [146:21]
A
Because they both, like tech.
- [146:25]
F
Very loosely line up, too. Like just. Yeah, conveniently.
- [146:31]
A
Yeah. I mean, is it possible?
- [146:33]
D
Sure.
- [146:33]
A
Would it be satisfying? Absolutely not. Not. Is it an answer, I guess, if. If it happens. Do I have any more rhetorical questions? No, that was the last one. Any other actual questions from this piece?
- [146:46]
D
That's it.
- [146:47]
A
Okay. Sorry again. I feel like Jimmy Kimmel at the end saying, apologies to Matt Damon, but we'll do the non discord dispease questions next week. But until then, why don't we round.
- [147:03]
D
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D
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- [148:18]
A
This has been the One Piece podcast episode 883 for September 8th. Thank you all so much for coming on. We will finish this flashback at some point. I promise it will end at some point. Maybe. Maybe Golfer where could people find you?
- [148:38]
F
Golfer Gare on TikTok and YouTube.
- [148:43]
A
Can where could people find you?
- [148:46]
E
You can find me anywhere online under kind king01, whether it be Blue Sky, Instagram, Twitch, you name it. I'm all the same name everywhere. And also make sure to check out the Op Art Collab Volume 2 if you like the art for this week's episode. Kirby and myself hosted the collab last year and a bunch of his pieces are in the Collab as well. So if you're on Blue sky, look up a OP collab on Blue sky and check out the artwork from hundreds of artists drawing over 800 one piece characters. It was a really good time last year.
- [149:17]
A
Year huge. Thanks again to Kirby for drawing this week's art. We'll make sure to check out all all of his art online.
- [149:28]
B
Steven yes, you can follow me on bluesky@stephenpaul BSGuy Social. You can also follow my new series that I'm working on comes from Just.
- [149:40]
A
For Joey and Me.
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B
Yeah it is on Jump plus. It just started this week and it is a I guess they all start weekly but then they transition to usually a slower schedule at some point. But it is called Kurumizawa's Folly. It is a. It is a kind of a period piece. It's set in 1971 and it's about making manga. It's actually kind of a similar premise as another old series that I worked on called. What was it, Time Paradox Ghostwriter, Time Machine Ghostwriter or something like that. And so yeah, it deals with like proper authorship of manga of a creative work and the ethicality surrounding that. So there's some. Some interesting questionable behavior going on. And it's an intro. It's a cool premise for a A series. And I do like the art too, so. So check it out. It's a huge like the first chapter is like 80 pages and the the next two are like 40 plus as well. So you'll get a lot to read in the next few weeks. So that's Kurumizawa's Folly and that is on the Shonen Jump and Manga plus stuff. You can find it all there.
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A
I've been saving that for a rainy day because it's 80 something pages. I want to like make sure I could pay attention and like, yeah, you. You have all the great series. I don't know how you did that. Good job though. Stephen. Alex, where could people find you?
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D
Find me on Blue sky at Dude, Exclamation, Bisky and Ice.
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A
Yeah, okay, cool.
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B
Hell yeah.
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A
Yeah. I don't know why I responded like that. Yeah. No, seriously though, Ice, thank you all for coming on the show. You could check out the One Piece podcast@one piece podcast.com wherever you get your One Piece. Wherever you get your One Piece podcast. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the. The rest you could check us out. Please check us out on YouTube@YouTube.com One Piece podcast. I want to give a big shout out, which I think we do, but I should always do more to our editor Delaney, who has been actually putting together shorts. And I think short she'll be releasing those a little bit more. So subscribe to our YouTube to check out those. The most recent one, I think she's going to be posting one about her soon. But there was one about Steve Yurko not getting his baseball card and taking it out on the entire sport as one does. So that and a lot more out there on YouTube. Check us out on patreon@patreon.com One Piece Podcast. Alternate art from Kirby this week. Alternate titles. There's some ridiculous ones. And we also have the entire force to watch four kids series with Alex and Steve, which is still excellent and timely because people are just discovering crocodiles. Poop jokes.
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D
Yeah. Taking our heat.
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A
Yeah. They're really just stealing your thunder. It's not. It's not cool. But, yeah, please check out that series if you haven't. Anyway, next week we're back with another chapter, and as Ed put it, seven days. We have Anthony Bowling, former One Piece ADR director, on the show next week. Yeah. So we'll see you then, everyone. My name is Zach and that's Alex.
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D
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. I forgot I had left. And my name is Alex.
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A
We'll see. We'll see you next week, everyone. Goodbye.
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D
Bye. Bye.
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A
No, we're not.
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D
No, we are, Davey.
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A
We are.