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And my name is Ed.
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And my name is Steve.
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And on today's episode of the podcast, we have a lot of special guests with us, including our contributor, Jill Knight. How's it going, Jill?
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Hello, everyone. My sluts. And Abby, if you happen to be listening. I hope everyone's having a good day. I'm excited to be here.
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And Ghost Hog.
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I said ghost. Oh, did I say Ghost Racer? I'm. You see, now I'm conflating. Anyway, get all of Joey Weiser's books out there, but. Yeah. Joey, how's it going?
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Hey, good. And hello.
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Buy my book.
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Joey, you have to stop. You have to stop creating. I'm going to run out of memory. My brain, which I have already.
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I'm working on that.
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And we have auteur, DVD enthusiast, fellow tostito lover, Jose Argumento's back. I don't know which credits I can say of yours, so I have.
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You could go with Emmy award. Haver. That's not mine, but I have one.
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Really?
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Really.
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It's upstairs.
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You could call me an indirect Emmy nominee.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel like, you know, Joey gets his nominations mentioned. Feel like we should just start mentioning accolades. Hi, my name is Jose again and I'm really excited to be here. It's always fun to catch up on one piece. This is a bit of a last minute thing, but I'm again glad to be on and glad to be on for this chapter.
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How's everything been? I. You. You weren't on that long ago, I feel like.
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No, it's been like 10 weeks. Like.
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Oh.
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So wasn't. Wasn't terrible to catch up, which is perfect for me. But yeah, since then I've been doing a lot of photography and not much DVD stuff these days. I don't think I have anything to. Oh no, I do have stuff to promote, I guess. I worked on. They both been announced. I worked on the Chainsaw man and Uzumaki Blu Ray marketing campaigns for Viz Media.
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Wow, cool.
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I'll go with that. I forgot about those.
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You've been doing a lot of trailers.
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My favorite Jose stories are when you have to get some ridiculous old tape deck to help discotheque with something.
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Yeah, that hasn't been a while and I'm happy to not do that anymore, I think.
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Or when you get a machine that could read tape decks.
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Like for us, I think. I think those days are.
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Remember the one where it. It burned a hole in your coffee table?
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Yeah, that was Ronin warriors way back pre Pandemic. So going back a while.
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So a couple years ago, right? Yeah, that wasn't that long ago.
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But I think Discotech these days, I think. I'm pretty sure we send tapes to proper post houses. It was that specific case in particular. We weren't allowed to. The tapes were not allowed to leave the. And the only tape decks that we. That existed in the city we weren't allowed to use. So we had to go buy one and take it to my apartment.
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You basically live that one episode of Cowboy Bebop that I hope people know immediately what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, it was. It was ridiculous. I don't want to go through something like that ever again.
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You don't want to go diving deep into a abandoned building.
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I don't want to go deep diving and have a random truck with like a huge pallet show up to my apartment. I'm just like, I don't know.
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I don't remember happening in the episode.
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Well, they kind of did a big delivery.
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It was a tomato tobacco truck. So. Yes, it was. Also. That was in one piece, which this is a podcast for. Yeah, see what I did not Bebop. No, Bebop's great. I don't think we're having any argument on that. This week we are going through chapter 1161. Right? I'm right here. We will have our enemy recap next week, right, Steve?
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And oh, and there's a cover of Jump and a color spread to talk about.
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So Ed has a lot to. And I don't know if an author comment is there, but it's going to be on all that. We're going to find out in a couple minutes. But first, before we get into the manga and the piece together, I want to let everyone know that you could subscribe to us at patreon@patreon.com One Piece Podcast. We have alternate art, alternate titles, the entire Forced to Watch four Kids series from Alex and Steve, which I still to this day think is worth the price of subscription right there. Plus we have the sticker of the month crew. Steve, should I throw that to you?
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Yeah. About to put in the order for the.
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The.
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Was it Schmapper Schmaban. Whatever we called it the. The Scopper Gabon. Double fisting margaritas.
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Schmuck.
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Just holding off to see if we.
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Sorry. Schmapper Schmobon and Schmorga Ritaville I think was the full.
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Just waiting to see if we get any last minute, you know, new patrons or anything like that. But those actually when I ordered the last month's they showed up pretty quick. So I think, yeah, probably the beginning of the week.
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You know, it's crazy. Jimmy Buffett used to have two chain restaurants in this country. We used to be a country. Used to be Margaritaville and Cheeseburger and paradise restaurants.
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Yeah, that's the problem. That's, that's been the big problem here. It's the lack of Jim.
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I don't think we have the one in Citywalk anymore.
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I actually had Heinz 57 sauce on a burger a few weeks ago. It's very good.
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There's still a Margaritaville in downtown Atlanta that I don't recommend.
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Yes.
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I visited my cousins who are staying in that like Margaritaville Resort in, in Florida a few years back.
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Oh yeah, I saw. Yeah, they were doing. They had a lot of those prizes on Wheel of Fortune a few months.
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Learn more at WhatsApp.com this is the manga recap for chapter 1161 A Song of Love Bound under a hail of arrows, this episode of Shakespeare is brought to you by shonenjumpdumpvis.com and mangaplus. Shueisha Co JP you could read this chapter as soon as it comes out@shonenjump viz.com Ed what was the author comment this week?
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It's a little weird, but let's see here what you guys think.
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They're all a little weird.
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Yeah, Oda says, this week I thought that horse meat sashimi was the way to go, but I went to a place with delicious grilled horse meat. It was so good.
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Wow. You didn't warn us properly.
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Little weird.
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I think little is yeah.
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Horse meat sashimi. I didn't know that was a thing.
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Yeah, I haven't had the sashimi, but I've had the grilled. My last night with my host family during my high school exchange, my host father took me out to a restaurant and fed me like a izakaya and fed me sticks of meat and told me afterwards what they were and among them was horse.
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When you Google it, it says it's a Japanese delicacy. Especially in Kumamoto.
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My Now I know.
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I know Uma Musume is like all the rage right now, but this is too far. Those were innocent girls.
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My My only story is during OPP Japan, which Jose has PTSD I'm sure from. I mean there's not much that doesn't.
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Give me PTSD these days.
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Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. I got one of those like bento boxes very quickly and I just thought it was beef. So I took it and Craig just starts laughing hysterically. I'm like what's the problem? He's like, oh it's it's tongue. And I'm like, I'm Jewish. This is not that weird horse would have freaked me out. I'll be honest. Yeah, I. What are you gonna do? Like. Like Joey said at that point, there was a.
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There used to. Used to be this mixed martial arts fighter named Alistair Overeem, who was the most jacked guy in fighting at the time. And they asked. He's a Dutch guy. And they asked him how big. How he got so big. And he said he ate horse meat. Turns out, we find out later, he was on all the steroids.
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But that's what he calls steroids. And maybe. Maybe that's what Oda is. Is on now.
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That's why you can't eat racehorses. They're on too many drugs.
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That might be the issue. Ed, what's going on in the COVID of Shonen Jump this week?
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On the COVID of Jump, it's the classic Japanese trope of the rabbits making mochi on the moon. We got Luffy pounding the mochi and a beautiful rabbit Nami carrying the finished mochi balls on a. On a platter there. And a chopper holding the. Holding the wooden like thing where you pound the mochi.
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The smasher.
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Yes. The urn.
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A nice summer celebration.
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I'm not familiar with this anecdote. I'll just out myself immediately. Or the trope.
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Well, that's why it was funny when Goku sent the rabbit to the moon on Dragon Ball.
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But that doesn't explain it to me, the ignorant person. Does anyone?
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You know how we like in the US Say that we can see a man in the moon because of the shapes in the moon? In Japan they say you can see rabbits on the moon because of the shapes that you see in the moon.
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I like that much more.
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That's why Sailor Moon's called Usagi.
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Yeah. And I don't exactly know where the mochi pounding comes into play, but the. That is the story is that there.
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I thought the rabbit on the moon was the one who brought presents for Christmas.
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I think you're completely holiday. That's interesting. I need to. I'll do some more research about that at another time.
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And you can see the moon in the background there?
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No, I do.
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It's a big moon, so I don't know. It's coming back soon.
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I was going to say better. Yeah. The Shonen Jump. Like the one on shonenjump. Viz.com. this is like one of the ones I kind of like almost more because it's just clean and.
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Yes, I see what?
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You mean and you see everything? Yeah.
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Luffy's got ears, but Chopper has antlers, so it can't give him ears.
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Yeah, that would be a hat on a hat, which he also has.
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Right?
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Yeah. Should. Okay, we have lots of covers this week, so we might as well get.
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To the ones like Fairly Simple. Like, I feel like Oda kind of went easy on himself knowing what he was about to do on the color spread.
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So.
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Yeah, maybe we should talk about that one.
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Yes. Yeah. Had. You want to take it away?
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Yes. This one is. This is based on a request. Luffy and Usopp catching a chopper plushie at a crane game. And on the COVID it's a. Like an epitaph. Here it says, what we hold in our hearts is ours forever.
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Is.
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This sounds like something.
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And it sounds like something you'd write in a eulogy or like a. Like a poem about someone who's died.
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It's a real glorification of merch.
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That's what I was thinking. I was like, yes, this is why I get all the gotcha boxes.
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Yes, they're mine forever.
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Tribute to capitalism.
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I love my one piece Labubus. Okay.
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All of the. All of the characters are hanging out with like, plushies of their. Of their loved ones. I see. I see. Luffy has a Don and a Machino and a Shanks and an Ace.
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By the way, when you do Google.
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All his moms are there.
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Googling.
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This phrase does bring up loop slap, of course.
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Oh, wait, where. Yeah.
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Gaimon in his box. Yeah.
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Hancock has fallen. She's reaching for him. This is an incredible. There's so much like. Like Sanji's holding all women. Getting mad at Zorro. Sleeping on a giant Shirahoshi that I must own. Are they gonna make this merch? They better.
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Yeah. I do agree with that.
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What does. What does Zoro's shirt say? Rest area.
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No, it says breast area. That's why the font is there.
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What is Sanji?
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I do the.
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I want the breast area. That's what it says.
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Oh, and we see the. But the. The real chopper in the crane game crying.
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And Brook is the crane.
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Well, okay, so Brooke is next.
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He's hanging from his ankles.
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Actually, wait, can I get Steve to do like the play by play here? Because there's a lot going on. And this is.
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I just want to point out, too, the cryptic pose by Carrot. It's like. But the furries thought I was joining.
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It's just the.
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The Sorry, Yamato asked first. Just.
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Yeah, that's why Yamato's up there. Yeah, Steve, go ahead. So.
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What'S going on here? Is Chopper is the baby that got stuck in the UFO Catcher, the Crane game. So I can only. What I could assume was they tried rescuing him and Luffy. Luffy's like, cool, we got him. We got Chopper. Let's go. But that is just the plush. And Chopper's still stuck in there. But they. I don't know if they're operating the same crane because in the. In the far back there, there's a lion who's. Who's licking his chops, who I think is controlling the actual crane. You can see drawing.
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Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
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The lion is trying to catch Chopper because he wants to eat him like food. And Brook has jumped in there to try and rescue Chopper.
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Of all of. All the lines, it kind of looks like Richie, but orange.
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Maybe he just likes Rich.
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Yeah, I thought it was Richie too.
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Yeah.
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It's weird because this looked. Some of the colors looked way more saturated when I read this on my phone. But, yeah, I think that's what's going on here. And I forgot to really take a closer look to at least some of the characters that are in. In the. The UFO catcher, because we still have. We have Dr. Kureha, heroic Tom, Clover, Zeph.
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It's. All the flashback characters are in the Crane. Yeah.
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All the dead characters.
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Huh? No. Korea's not there.
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Yeah, Chopper's scared. If he stays in there, he's not long for this world.
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That's true.
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Yeah. Brooke is in there too.
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Dead characters.
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Jose, our friend David Bednar made a comment about this, and I realized it too. I'm like, I. I'm surprised as him, just as much as him that Bon Clay is not in here.
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Look, he can't.
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He doesn't have, like a super concrete connection to any one member. You know? Like, I feel like that this kind of dissolves a little bit with, like, Kinemon and stuff, but it seems like for the most part, it's characters that they. Well, like a connection to. But then, you know, Zoro and Shirahoshi.
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Are Luffy and Bone Clay.
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I would say Gaimon in his mouth.
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But Kinemon really, like, Luffy has more.
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Of a connection with Gaimon than Bon Clay.
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Well, that was just for me.
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Yeah, the Gaimon is just for us.
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I just noticed. I just noticed the Mihawk on the floor next to Zorro.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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I'm obsessed with the fact that Frankie's counting coins as if. If they run out of coins, we just have to give up and leave Chopper there forever.
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Like, I need. I need change. This is all I got, brother.
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I love the Usopp on the left side here with his tongue hanging out of his mouth. Intensely focusing.
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Yeah. NAMI's got BB. How cute.
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Well, Kinema. I wanted to say Kinema, Momonosuke and Yamato. The three of them were like the honorary. You know, they were honorary straw hats at the end of Wano. So that explains those three. Whoop. Slap is ridiculous.
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So you're telling me. You're telling me that the straw hats have more of a connection with Gerd than they do Bone Clay.
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Well, I think those are just because.
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I retract my statement. Although I do like that all the giants are there and they're extra big plushes.
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I do like that they're extra big. Yeah.
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Jim Bae's just napping.
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Jinbe just don't care.
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Yeah.
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Oh, is that a buggy there?
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Yeah, but look who he's napping on.
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Zoro's head.
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He's on Dory, Saul. He's comfy on those giant plushes. That's why. Yeah. Who said the Nami VV Truthers really have a.
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Yes, this is proof. Actually, I'm taking it as concrete proof.
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Me too. I don't think we needed more proof, but I'll take it.
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I'm trying to see if I can make out who is between Kureha and Clover here.
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Yeah. Who's behind Zeph is also lost to me. There's somebody.
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I'm having a hard time reading it.
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Anyway, it's foxy like Lola.
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A little bit.
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What's on Chopper's shirt?
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Rogue.
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Rogue. I'm going rogue.
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I like to think that Luffy and Usopp actually shoved him up there in the first place to grab something and then that was a mistake.
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I feel like we could go through this color spread for a long time. But yeah, the handcuffs is the saddest of. Feel bad. Just can't. No attention.
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Yeah. I absolutely love this color spread. It's beautiful. It's so fun to watch. And I watched the process video this morning and was like completely satisfied with what Oda landed on. Wasn't amazing. You know, the old.
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Some really good sketches though. Yeah.
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We haven't mentioned Robin yet, who's just kind of praying next to the machine, hoping he pulls it off.
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Really worried.
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I like how no one's like, oh, we could just smash it and take him, you know?
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And we got the. I love the close up of Robin at the Bottom here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I like the situation with Kamie. They're like, no, we just gotta play ball. And yeah, put our money where our mouth is.
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Oh my God. Yeah, I think seeing Dadan here, that really warmed my heart. Like, we see Dadan caring about Luffy all the time, but not the other way around. Yeah, so that made me happy. Any other thoughts on the color spread?
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I can't wait to see this on the calendar.
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Yeah, great. This is a good one. I want to see this in big.
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Just huge IMAX size.
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IMAX size. And yes, when I googled, what we hold in our hearts is ours forever. And epithets are what come up for gravestones and memorials. So I'm sure it's from something or it's just a random thing that Oda wanted. Right? Ed, what's going on in the COVID page?
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Oh, on the COVID we have Ogre Child, Yamato's golden harvest, surrogate pilgrimage, volume 43, where the heroes sleep. And we got lanterns with the names of the.
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Of the.
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Of the dead.
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It's pretty notable that we get a Yamato story page as well as a color spread.
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Yeah, I can't remember the last time that.
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Oh, I see Kozuki Toki on here. Ezo Pedro. Pedro Zoro's grand uncle.
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Which one's Fugetsu almost. You know, I could just look these up.
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He was the Daimyo who kind of looked like an Onigiri, I think.
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Oh, I don't even remember that.
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Yeah, I don't have like a super catalog mind for all the characters and stuff. Were any of these like any of the ones at the bottom? Ones that people were like theorizing on who they are?
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There's Ashura Doji on the right there as well.
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Yeah, I'm curious about that. Bottom row. At the bottom here, there's like a ty something.
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I don't know who Mar is. Yeah, there's a Kurozumi there, which is interesting.
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Yeah, that is interesting.
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Well, all the Kurozumi are dead now, so.
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Yeah, but that there's a Korozumi in the same spot.
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And isn't Tama a Kurozumi?
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That's the running theory. I don't think it confirmed.
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No, I think it was revealed, right?
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No, I thought they just like. I thought it was just like kind of like very.
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Was it an SBS that it was confirmed?
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Yeah, I do not remember it was an sbs.
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I think so it could be Fanon.
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But I mean it's definitely in the one piece Wiki. I don't know I'm trying to. Okay. I okay, who's starting? Oh, no. Any. Any other thoughts on. On this cover page? It's not over.
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That's why Yamato, Kinemon and Momo praying at the shrine.
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Correct.
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And Steve, you're right. Intriguing. Volume 105 is when Kurizumi.
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You can recognize Momo by the hair. He's got great hair.
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It doesn't look like food.
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So he's kind of letting his family down.
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I am thinking that, I think in the SGS last week, which people should listen to if they have not. It's our off week episode with Greg and Steven. Greg I think mentioned that one of the reasons maybe this isn't ending is because there is like a one more thing. Like a Steve Jobs like, oh, we're going to bring this thing out at the very end sort of thing.
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Like a Nintendo Direction.
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I guess Nintendo Direct is probably a more.
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That's it. Back to the moon. See what Enery is doing.
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Yeah, I, I know. I, I, I do think there's probably something else here to be said. Or it's just gonna end. I don't know. But yeah, those are my theories. But Ed, you could get started on the ch on the chapter.
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Yes. Many figures converged on the island bearing their individual goals and desires, turning God Valley into an inescapable battlefield of nightmares. Yeah, we saw plenty of nightmares last chapter. And we see like what a Navy, Navy man talking to one of the world nobles says, please, my lord, leave the island through the evacuation tunnel. And I guess this is the Celestial Dragon says, not yet. I wanted that prize. And the marine says, we'll be responsible for bringing it with us. And the noble's like scolding him responsible. You'll be held responsible for pooping our party, you bumbling fools, or for depriving us of a good time. I hate these guys.
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They would say pooping our party.
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Yeah, this is the most Karen ass pose.
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Yeah. I'm gonna call your manager.
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Yeah.
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Time aside for this, you know, this shooting and this violation of civil rights.
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Yeah, State of your hair, man.
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It's not a violation of civil rights. They're murdering people. I mean, I guess also that's like.
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The biggest violation of civil rights that I, I think there is, right?
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I think it's a violation of more.
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And speaking of the targets, we see a target with an arrow in his back saying, maybe this is our big chance. Let's use the chaos to find us a boat. Now that's thinking with your head. And then Roger sort of Barges in here. He says, where's Shaky? She better be unharmed. And Rocks butts in with his nose, saying, eris. Teach, where are you? So presumably Eris is Teach's mother From.
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Final Fantasy 7 or Greek mythology, right?
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Yes, the God. The goddess of discord and mistrust.
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Wait, Goddess of Discord?
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It's Greek. There's the goddess for everything.
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Yeah, no, I meant the.
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I think also a character. And a character from Hercules, the animated.
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Movie and Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
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I think so, yeah. Rox is sort of button and huffing, looking for his boy and the woman. But then Garp sort of rushes in with his big scar face and he says, where are you, Roger? And top of the next page, we see Dragon. It can tell by his eyes or.
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Or his lack of eyebrows or is carrying babies.
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And he's thinking, just. Just hang in there a little longer. Which way are the navy ships? And then he's like, pirates. Ah, this is the wrong way. Yeah, Looking for Navy ships, not pirates. And then that sharp tooth world noble he saw last chapter says with the two color hair, says, found him. It's a sailor carrying a baby. And then proceeds to. I'm a fire in my laser. Gets him right in the shoulder, through the back. Gives him the old mouth laser.
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First of all, why does she have a laser?
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I love that she's carrying her cigar while firing her laser.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of confusing things about this character as that will continue to unfold.
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I'm obsessed with her.
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Yeah. That does not surprise me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's about par for me. So on the next page, this woman. Smoke coming out of her mouth because she's awesome. She's like, there, got him. As she is responding to the person on the call who's going, you saved my life, Maffy. Garling was gonna kill me, I'm sure. As Dragon falls to the ground and one baby is thrown away. Don't toss babies.
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Jill, can you give this character, like a real smoker's voice?
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Let me toke up real quick.
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No, not that kind of smoker's voice.
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Is that a flop or a flop?
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Yeah, a flop. It falls. Poor baby.
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Real, real flop.
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Era.
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Don't kick babies, kids. Don't do that.
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Yes. Don't kick the baby.
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This is not shaking. This is throwing or dropping. Dropping.
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It's probably not great either way, but I guess that is a difference.
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That explains a lot about Shamrock.
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So we get. God, she's incredible. We get this full body image of this woman.
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Calm down. Remember she likes murdering humans. Oh, wait. Maybe this doesn't help. Here.
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We get the Holy Knights of God from the Satchels family. Saint Maffy, who's holding. Holding the baby with one hand, holding a cigar on the other hand. Garling as a kid. Who'd have thunk it? Can't imagine who'd want to kidnap the brat as. As dragons just there.
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Ah.
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Grunting as the baby's crying. Dragon's like, no, wait. Don't take those babies. They're the only way I can atone for being a part of the sick murderous game. Yeah, she doesn't care. So long, young man. As she's got a. Suddenly a sword because a laser wasn't enough. So she's got a sword. She's aiming for him. Baby's crying in the other arm, and Dragon's just kind of sad. Well, considering all the people who have died, I guess I deserve this too. Oh, he's so emo. Come on, dude. And she gets cut in half. Suddenly, there is a big slice, and the entire forest, including this woman, gets cut up as someone shouts out of the way. She looks understandably shocked by this. And then we get.
D
Yeah, the top half of her looks very shocked.
F
Yeah, yeah. You know, like, no one really expects.
D
The tremendous leather catsuit on her with the big cleavage and the, like, the belts around the waist.
F
Yeah, I guess the belts. At least one of them must have gotten cut.
C
But yeah, they keep her together, and they must have.
F
Yeah, yeah. She actually just does separate, like. Like the usual. This is actually. Who has Buggy's fruit. We just don't know that yet.
A
Yeah.
D
Slowly sliding apart like Frieza in the Android saga.
F
As we get the. The source of the slice is Whitebeard as he and Big mom are stomping through the forest, and he's going, no, I wasn't aiming for you. That was an enemy I cut down as. I don't know if it's him, but someone's shouting, how many pirate crews are on this island by now? As Big mom, like, liar. I almost died there. Do we need to settle our score? Now's the time. And it's kind of incredible just seeing Dragon, who's, like, what, 9ft tall or something, just like, huddled there in the corner like, whoa, who are those enormous pirates? I love this. They're like Kaiju going through a.
A
This is so funny, Big Mom.
C
Totally. I love the sense of scale in that panel. It's a very, like, Jurassic park moment or something of him, like, hiding there and seeing these massive Guys that aren't even aware that this aunt of a man named Dragon is down there.
D
Dragon is the lawyer hiding in the toilet.
F
Hopefully it turns out better. But I guess we don't know the end of the flashback yet.
E
I didn't realize Dragon was so tall. He's like eight and a half feet tall.
F
Yeah, that's why everyone thinks Luffy's gonna, like, have a growth spurt if he lives long enough.
D
Garp is huge too.
F
Garp's like 10ft tall.
A
Crazy.
F
And Croc.
A
Maybe he had a very short mom. Like, maybe his. Maybe his mom's a tontata. Yeah, well, there was a name. We. There was the one of the hybrid races I just don't remember the name of. Yeah, that was it for that page. Right, Joey?
C
Okay, yeah. So on the next page, Shiki approaches, calling out for Newgate. Were you trying to kill me, you rat? And Kaido is coming from the other side after Linlin saying, you lied to me. And the kind of rabble here says, it's the rocks pirates. Take them down and we'll be famous. Huh? And Shiki says, hold on. Do they think they deserve to win? Shakky too. And with several quick swoops, they just brush all of these total losers out of the way. Go back home and get in bed, you miserable weaklings.
F
Yeah.
C
Love that drawing. Very fun. Yeah. And Linlin's, like, setting that guy on fire. It's so good. And Shiki's doing his best to keep up. He's not quite as giant as the rest of them, but. So they blow the Scrubs away. And Maffey says, what's happening to this island anyway? As the baby she's holding is crying and Dragon internally monologues. Now I've got an opening to escape, but she's got the babies. But then, what's this? He sees one other baby with a big bump on its head and X'd out eyes laying on the ground. Very cute drawing. Very kind of funny moment. In this, like, big moment of drama.
D
Is frilly Victorian baby onesie.
F
Yeah. Well, do you think this is like a Goku moment? And now he's forgotten all the racism he was born into.
C
No, I don't know if that's how.
A
Racism works, but yes.
C
Yeah, you're programming to destroy.
D
Okay, Shanks, where'd you get the. Why you got this flat spot in your head?
A
Next time we see a racist, we have to just bonk them on the head really hard and they'll just turn.
C
I do think that maybe if this Serves any purpose. It's the fact that he silently passed out. Means that he's not crying. Yeah, that'll keep Maffy from knowing that there's a second baby there. But.
A
Yeah, I actually. I don't know if we're really gonna go back to this. So talk about now. I think this is probably the best way he could have explained their separation and just the general situation because, I mean, we'll get to it a little more on the next page, but. Yeah.
C
Yeah, it's not bad.
A
Yeah, Jose.
B
All right, and the next page we have in our first panel here, we have Garp running up to a big explosion. He's saying, I sense a big catch up ahead. Found myself a first class fishing. Fishing spot. Excuse me. And he's winding up his hockey in the next panel. And he's bringing it down on the rocks. Pirates. Now come quietly, you neptunians. And all the pirates, including Whitebeard, Big Mom, Kaido.
D
I sense a big ketchup here. Anthony. What about a big mustard or a big mayonnaise?
E
No, no.
B
No condiments in this lake. It's. And so I can't tell who's saying it. I'm pretty sure it's Whitebeard here. He says it's Garp. Run and we'll be stuck here forever. Kaido's going. Are we going to fight him? No, forget it. And Big mom calls for Zeus and Prometheus. Yes. Mama and Dragon off to the side. You know, looks and he sees dad. And Big mom prepares heavenly fire Blitz. And she throws. She sends off Zeus and Prometheus and they cause like a pretty big force or explosion.
E
And I call it a Kamehameha.
A
A Kamehameha. Good. When did you plan that?
E
Like five seconds ago.
A
Really good one here. Okay.
B
And we see Garp. It looks like he's taking the hit pretty well despite it coming right at him. And we see in the next panel a lot of small pirates very far away from what appears to be the explosion that just happened. And we see Ivankov, little Ivankov and Kuma. Who did that? What was it? Anyway, this is our big chance, Kuma. Yeah. And they are off to make their escape, as we saw many chapters ago at this point.
A
Steve. All right.
E
And we see this. I could. I was reading this chapter and I was already envisioning all of, like, the anime versions of these.
B
Yeah, yeah.
D
Like crazy.
E
This one I know right away they're just gonna go all out. And this is just a charred looking Garp saying. You call that Fire. Linlin, you couldn't cook prime rib with this. And he's still standing and he's. And he's smiling.
A
Yeah.
E
So. And I just. Lin. Lin is sweating and just says, damn it. And we cut back to Maffy here, and this little baby she's holding is crying. And she says, well, the kidnapper's got to be dead now, babe. Baby's safe and sound, too. Is that good? And someone says, what? Baby's safe and sound?
C
Perfect.
E
Come back before Garling finds out baby is plural. We're going to commend Steven on the play here. Babies with apostrophe and babies. Ies Masterful there. Great job, Steven.
D
So who doesn't know there's two babies? Garling knows there is, but.
A
Yeah, I'm assuming that is an underling mess up. Like, she just probably didn't.
D
Yeah, she's the only one who assumes that there's one baby.
A
Well, I don't know who they're talking to. Yeah. But I would add I. From what I recall, the plural thing is not as prominent in Japanese, like, so it might also just be that, like, a re. A more reasonable mistake in that it's like, you know, well, whoever's asking for.
E
This favor could have just been, like, really obtuse about the instructions. Could have been like, Garling's kin.
A
Yeah, go get Garling's kin. Yeah.
C
I mean, but that is.
E
Sure thing, sweetie.
C
Yeah. I mean, I think that is the. What Zach was saying, though, is that in Japanese, you don't typically have plurals of nouns. There is a way to do plurals with people, but she probably just said the word baby, and the other person said the word baby back, but one of them was, like, meaning plural, and she assumed it was singular or something like that.
A
It works. This is. Yeah, I think this was pretty masterful how it's done in English and probably clearer than it is even for the Japanese reader. I wonder how clear that is. But we'll ask Stephen next time he's on. But, yeah, go ahead, Steve.
E
And we have Dragon here running with the other baby with a bump on his head. He says, I'm so sorry. I might not be able to rescue your brother, but at least I've got you. And this. Oh, God. What freaking family is this again?
C
Isn't that Gunko's one? The Manmire?
A
Yeah, man. Mire.
E
Yeah, man, Mire. That's Janice Joplin family something. And this character says, you thought you could take advantage of the confusion and escape. No one gets out alive. Resident or pirate. And shooting a bunch of innocent people with targets. This is brutal. I don't know what the.
D
The kanji on her back says. Looks like something that looks like a commie or something.
C
It is.
E
It's common. Ah, God. There we go. You know what? I should have just looked at my model of the arch Maxim. It would have.
A
Or any old piccolo. There were other old Kami, maybe. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
D
The one on the right is definitely something like that.
A
Yeah, go ahead.
E
You cut away to like a building. And we hear report again, sir. The rocks pirates are coming from the southeast of the valley. The Roger pirates are inbound from the northwest. We're about to be stuck between the two. And we got a little handy map with the cutesy versions of Roger Rocks and the Sea Dragons. And we get a wide shot here of all these geared up marines. But we hear we're taking Shocky back. And someone says, that's roger. Someone says, defend the spot with your life. The treasure hasn't been hauled out yet. The rocks pirates are coming from the other direction. And we see the rocks pirates coming from the other direction as the rocks pirates are coming from the other direction. Silver Axe, Shiki Gloriosa. They're in Gloriosa too. But Shiki and Silver Axe. I forget his name.
A
It's a stupid name again.
E
He's my least favorite so far.
A
Kyo. Yeah, I think it's Kyo. I like his glasses and I like the axe design on his kimono thing, but yeah, go on.
E
Just do the short.
C
I'll save her first.
E
And Shiki says, no me get off. And this could be Captain John here saying, we're here to rescue you, Shakki, who has a very similar mechanical arm to what Eustace Kidd would do. That feels very, very interesting.
F
Did his homie have two arms? It did, right? I mean, that could have been sewn.
E
On, but yeah, that doesn't mean he had two arms.
A
But it could have been sewn on later. Like after post mortem. Yeah.
D
Oh, that's Hogback.
A
It's.
E
I don't know. I. I haven't had time to look back and see if we've ever seen.
D
I forgot Captain John had such great hair.
A
But Captain John could also have just wrapped the metal around his existing arm.
E
It's not like Eustace Kidd does.
A
Well, no, he also lost an arm.
F
Well, didn't he?
E
Yeah, but Eustace Kidd did this in Shivondi, so.
C
Okay, Eustace Kid or Captain Kid, and.
F
He had the treasure map that was A wrist thing. That's interesting. Yeah.
A
Captain's a surname. Let's not forget that.
C
Steve and Captain John.
A
Right, Captain and Captain. Yeah.
D
That's a captain thing. You wouldn't understand.
C
So I mean, it's possible that kid.
D
It's.
C
The captain is in quotations. Right? So that's kid's nickname. And maybe that's because he takes. He has the same power as Captain John. And so like Captain.
A
Right.
D
That's why they call him useless Captain Mid.
A
Who calls him?
E
I wouldn't know. I don't check Twitter.
A
No. Jose.
B
That brings us to the next page. And we see a tall figure drenched in a black coat walking through the chaos. Put a stop to them. You made sure to escort. You might have to help me with the pronunciation of this name. Sorry. Shaku Yaku.
A
Correct.
D
Shaki Jackie.
B
But like what. How do you actually pronounce the. Her full name?
C
You got it.
A
Right.
B
Oh, okay.
A
Cool.
B
Make sure to escort her out. St. Sommers.
A
Well.
B
Well what? And St. Sommers bursts into the room. And he confronts her. You're kidding me. You can't handle one woman in handcuffs? It sounds. And Shakky responds. It sounds like there's lots of pirates causing trouble out there.
A
Ugh.
B
I hate a woman who knows her own worth and immediately stummers walks up to her and slaps her across the face. You're better when you're naive. And she goes down. She looks like she's gonna go down to the floor. But then she turns that into a spin kick towards him and hits him in the arm and appears to break it actually. And he. You know, he's in pain. Yow. But he grabs her foot and he immediately clubs her with a giant spiked bat.
D
It's a solid vine. I think that was his thorn power. Right?
B
Yeah. And as she hits the floor, she yells. And he responds. That's right. All those pirates are here to steal you back. You're in high demand. So high that it's ruined our big day. But you're alive. But alive. Excuse me? But alive. You're only going to wind up with Garling. So the more emotional choice is to kill you to make sure no one can have you. So he's gonna make. This bastard's gonna make a very selfish decision. And also a very bad decision.
A
This. He feels very spandom esque in his evil.
B
You know, now that you mention it. I. I'm looking at one of the panels in the corner. You're right. I do see kind of the resemblance too.
A
Not. Well, Yeah. I mean, not even the look wise.
D
We saw. We saw his cruelty, what, like two chapters ago with the father and the son.
A
Yeah, this is. Yeah, I mean, this is not. Well, we also saw him in the present day. I know.
F
This guy sucks.
A
Yeah, and chapters ago, and he still sucks. This is. This is not unusual. And he is the worst. But that's why I'm relating him to Spandam, because he's also the worst. And no redeeming qualities, except.
B
I don't know why, but the tea on his chin kind of reminds me of Spandam, like with the face mask. I don't know what it is about it. Maybe it's just because you said it and I just am associating two things that aren't there.
A
They were both drawn by Oda, so.
B
That's true.
A
We go to the next page and he continues. He loves monologues. This is not new. We also saw this in the present day, but here we go. They've come from far and wide to rescue you. But when they finally get here, battered and bruised, they'll find their beloved, brutally slaughtered. I wonder how they'll react to that. And in the background here, the battle rages. You have Whitebeard, Captain John using his mechanical arm. That's not Wangji. What's the. What's the person's name that. So it's the G, right? The. The rocks pirate. The big one. Steve, do you remember the Catfish Man? No, the one. The big brooding one with like the big shoulders.
E
Are you talking about the Thriller Bark?
A
Yeah.
E
Zombie one.
A
Yeah. Steve, you read the manga. That's the only reason I have.
E
Yeah, but I don't care about him.
A
I'll look that up after. Because I hear in the future everyone yelling at us through my headphones. I don't know how I'll look that up when I finish my page. And you see also Roger confronting Whitebeard, which, as you may recall, we saw during the Odin flashback.
E
So, yeah, we're gonna be doing this a lot.
C
Yeah, I feel like this is the obligatory flashback moment that we have to see every time now.
A
Every flashback, even if they're not in it, suddenly they show up and clash, even when it makes no sense. Anyway, I assume this could literally be anyone, but I assume it's Roger. Shacky, I'm here for you, and I mentioned this before, but if you really just think of this whole thing as a high school musical drama, it really just, I think, lifts the whole thing up. And I'm not gonna do. I can't do the shiki Accent saying, are you okay, Shaky? I'm coming to save you now. And you get a bunch of random schmucks. It's like, look, it's me. You remember me? Oh, including, by the way, the Axe Keo, who I guess is in the random schmuck category here. Here I am. You remember me? I'm random pirate number 17. And everyone. And Roger's like, damn it, I can't get through. You gotta go get Shaky. And here comes Rayleigh. And he just moves a mile a second, it looks like here. But we cut back to Shaky and Summers. Can you hear that? They're right behind us. But they'll be just a second too late. St. Sommers, I don't think Saint Garlic would approve. Shut up, you. Don't say anything. It goes in the books as an accident. See what I did there? Just look at her face. The light of hope has finally gone out. This ain't a fairy tale or some sort of manga. If anyone comes to save her, I'll just kill him. Reality is cruel.
E
And anyway to speak up, sir. I can't hear you.
A
He says, I'll kill you in five. I'll kill you in five blows. And with each bloody smash, you'll better. You'd better regret the peace addled optimism that led you here. And in his moment of greatest, greatest triumph, twists a little bit as we see what's what. Seems like light coming in. And Summers notices that there's someone else in the room. Jill?
F
Yes. Yes, it's me. Hello.
B
Did you skip. Did you skip a panel?
D
He did.
C
Skipped. Rayleigh's. Totally.
F
I can explain it.
A
Oh, oh, oh, oh. I don't know why, but. Yeah, Jill, I think it's better anyway if you didn't. Yeah, I don't know why. I.
F
As Summers suddenly realizes that an enemy has appeared, Rayleigh, ominous in shadow, goes, I'll put the flowers on your grave to send you off. As he does a spider lily steel attack, sending Sommers Scooby Doo style through a wall without.
A
Is this the. What do you call it? The death knell of the tontata.
D
I was thinking that was Pigya.
F
That's right.
A
Oh, you're right.
F
This is just a version.
A
Yeah, yeah.
F
As Rayleigh is just looking handsome there. As Shakky looks at her savior and he goes, shakky. Sorry I took so long. As she's. She sits up a bit and he remembers the come and get me Shaku Yaku.
A
I forgot they're all Valley girls in this. Yeah.
F
As he goes, I've come to get you. Explosions in the background. All the best romantic scenes do have explosions happening in the background. She's crying. She goes, oh, Ray, you took too.
A
Long.
F
As they cuddle. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you had to go through this. I was so scared.
A
Jill, you might be cheapening this lately.
F
As he's holding her in the background. Never again. Meanwhile, Roger and I think Gabon just going, can you do this later? Damn it. As their hearts have been broken because the girl has chosen someone else at the end of the movie.
A
Roger, you knew also you love Garp. Let's be honest.
F
We've got shaky back, boys. Now take some treasure and let's get the hell out of here.
A
Yeah, that's what happened to be.
F
That's how I met your mother.
A
Next week, this is. We flash forward to just Luffy on the island with. With Rayleigh and he's like, confused. What you're not my parents. Like, which one of these women was my mother? Yeah. Anyway, that does it for the chapter. Thoughts, Joey, I'll start with you.
C
Yeah, I liked this chapter a lot. So I haven't been on a little bit, but I've been listening to you guys cover these, and I think I more or less align with the general sentiment from the podcast that I haven't been super loving this God Valley section of the flashback. And it's not that I. I don't get super hung up on the fact that it's like, quote unquote, supposed to be Loki's flashback or anything like that. That kind of stuff doesn't really bother me so much. But I do feel like it's been a lot of just moving pieces into place and kind of filling in gaps of stuff we already know, which has been cool to finally be like, oh, okay. I feel like the height of that, of my response to that is like, oh, I see. So that's how that happened. Rather than being really excited. And in this, I think it was.
D
Just a little bit more complicated. My annoyance, and I feel like I mentioned this every week on the show, is that the Straw Hat pirates are not characters in this particular story.
C
Yeah. And, you know, that's one of the things that I think really works for me in this, is that it's starting to relate a bit more to the story that we're going to be getting back to with the straw hats. Like, I think that's what's really great about the sommers section here is that we're really, really seeing what, like, how terrible he is. And it's really making us, like, hate him even more. And it's relating to the current story because we know that he's eventually going to get his ass handed to him by a straw hat, you know, more or less. But it's just tying into the current story in a way that I find very compelling. And it's been very, like, cool to see. I feel like now we're seeing the. The events unfold a little bit more in real time with characters, like, interacting with each other and stuff in a way that I find a lot more kind of, like, fun to read and emotionally satisfying. So Saint Maffy is interesting. She's got a lot of stuff going on. I. Her name is very interesting to me. That my. Like, one thought on that is possibly it could be like, a cutesy word derived from mafia, because she's got kind of that mafia. She's got the cigar and the sunglasses, which is how Oda likes to draw gangsters a lot. But she has so many weird things going on. We noted those belts. I really like her skirt. But the thing that really weirds me out is that mountain on top of her head. Her hairdo is making kind of a mountain shape. And. And at the moment, her powers are very like, she can shoot a laser, but she can also split in half and apparently be okay.
A
That might just be like, a celestial dragon thing or Knights of God thing.
F
Because it wasn't shown at all, though, which is interesting. She's shown to be fine, but I'm sure she like her combining back.
A
No, but I'm sure it's the same.
C
They could sort of reform.
A
I'm sure it's the same Elders and stuff. Sorry, Joey, to interrupt, but it did. Just because it's related. I. I think Gabon mentions to the straw hats or to Chopper. You know, how you could potentially get beyond the. The, like the immortality of the. The five elders and the. And the holy knights of God. And so Gabon is here, and so are the holy knights, so that we might actually get an answer to that. And this might just be, like, kind of the first hint of that. That's my. That's my theory. That's.
C
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I think that that's. That makes sense to me. Let's see. I'm trying to think. If I think kind of general thoughts. Yeah. I love to see Garp being awesome. I love Garp. That panel of him that Steve was talking about where he's all in shadow and he's got those, like, circle eyes and this kind of menacing smile. Is really, really awesome and great.
D
But after he took the fire attack. Yeah, he's.
C
Yeah, that was so good.
D
I've seen a lot of criticism for Garp recently on the Internet, memeing about him being, you know, protecting all this. All the Hunters and Slayton enslavers and stuff. Like, yeah, Garp is the hero of the reign, so he's the hero of the government. Now that we know about the government, like, that's what he's protecting here. So he's not some sort of hero, but, like, his son, on the other hand, is like, dad, you doing well.
F
I mean, that's a core part of his, you know, that's just part of his character. It's something that, you know, he obviously has to struggle between the. What. The role of his job and. Or, like. Like at Marineford, protecting Ace and stuff. That struggle is part of his character.
D
Right. And.
C
And that's what I really love was.
D
It was after this when he turned down the opportunity to become an admiral, maybe.
C
But, yeah, yeah, you know, I feel like we've talked about this before, but yeah, I think that he, like that. That drama that's essential to his character is what I find really interesting. But I understand why it would set people off and upset them.
D
It's interesting that Dragon, you see him actually have that explicit thought in his head of like, I can't participate in this. I can't. It's the only way I can redeem myself is to save this.
C
Yeah. Some of my favorite stuff in this. This entire section, the God Valley stuff. It's been nice to kind of, like, see what's unfolding for Dragon and see his, like, change in attitude and not changing, like.
D
And obviously later on, he teams up with, like, Ivankov and Kuma becomes a revolutionary too. So does, like, does he help them here or what happens? Exactly. I'd like to see.
C
Yeah, I think it's done really well. I like that they show up briefly here. It's nice that they're touching base with these characters. So you keep kind of it in the back of your mind that they're around while this is all happening. Yeah. I just think in general, this chapter is really well done. And I think the Rayleigh appearance at the end is very cool and very sweet. And I like the relationship between him and Shaky a lot. It's funny that it kind of like. And grinds Roger and Gabon's gears at the end, too.
D
I love that she. She breaks Summer. She kicks him in the arm and breaks his arm or whatever.
C
It's yeah, it's really cool that she can hold her own to some extent. You know, with Summers, he's maybe just a little bit too much for her. But I like, I love the cut to seeing her in the room with all the guards beat up and stuff. Like, at first I was like, oh, is she. Did she knock them out with hockey or something? But I think she just literally like kicked them around because you got that one guy sticking out of the wall.
D
It actually looks like Hancock. What's her attack called? Perfume. Femur.
C
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I got to say. You can move on to somebody else.
A
Jose.
D
Amazon. Kenpo.
B
For me, this chapter, so I think I mentioned it earlier, but I read one piece in chunks. So I read a bunch of chapters today, including this one. And I feel like the last few weeks I've been having so much trouble following along, staging wise what's happening. But this chapter, I felt like, like it's really well done in terms. I didn't feel quite as lost as I usually do. Everything is drawn really well. And like, in terms of like the choreography of like where everybody is. I never felt lost this time around is. So that's.
A
That.
B
That was a huge highlight for me. And of course, seeing all the action beats, I think everything in this chapter works excellently. I really do like seeing the build up and you know, of. Of Raleigh and Shaki's relationship kind of finally blossom into this where this seems to really be the start of it, you know, and it's. It's nice to have felt that build up. And it's also. It's really cool to see the, the pirates, the Rocks Pirates and Rogers Pirates, like all in action like this. Everybody gets their little moment of shine. And also get. Seeing Garp in action as a younger man is. Is really cool, man.
D
One other thing that I wanted to mention was I thought it was funny like the way Summers was like, you know, if you don't say anything, nobody's gonna know what happened if Shaki's dead. Like, don't like, you gotta cover for me here, buddy.
B
Well, it's also like, I like, he's afraid of Garling. Yeah. And also he's just, I guess, like, who. You know, at the same time, I think he has so much power as well that if he does it, none of the other guards are gonna tell on him.
D
Exactly.
B
Because like, they don't want to get caught up in that. So even.
A
Yeah.
B
So even if they did write an official report, they're just gonna write we didn't see anything.
D
Right. He also. He just kills for fun. He just loves killing. Anyway.
B
Yeah.
D
Torturing people like in monologuing to rub it in.
B
But yeah, overall, this chapter, really cool. Really fun, brisk and easy to follow along. So I. I hope. I hope more chapters are like this one in the future. I also hope that we get back to Elbath pretty soon. Kind of miss the straw hats, but this is. This has been a nice, I think, climax.
D
Well, yeah. The full circle thing would be going back to Summers in Elbaf.
B
Yeah.
D
After this. Yeah.
B
It feels like we're at a good. I don't think we're done with the flashback. There's probably more to go. But you know, if we went back to Elbaf right about.
E
I think you're forgetting one big part of this flashback.
A
Yeah, it didn't.
D
Wasn't it supposed to be that Garp and Roger defeated Rocks?
A
No, you're forgetting one. No, literally.
B
Literally. Big party.
A
I know, I know.
B
That's why I'm like, we're not done with this.
A
No, we're not close. I don't think.
B
We're not close.
F
I think there's a lot left of this.
D
Yeah, I can see why.
A
Any other thoughts, Jose?
B
No. You guys can move on.
A
Jill, your thoughts? Yeah.
F
This is honestly just tons of fun. I love basically, like the Roger Pirates and Garp and the Rocks Pirates just kind of running around ramshackle. Like they don't care at all about any of the. The Marines getting in their way. They're just kind of mowing them down. They're really only each other's real opponents here. I really like specifically the three panels where it's like Roger, Rocks and Garp because it definitely looks like Ace, Teach, and Luffy in a way. I thought that was an interesting little three panels. And then everything about St. Maffy incredible. I. I don't know anything that's going on with her. I love her volcano hair, her laser beams as she like crawls on the ground. Doflamingo's coat. Everything about her is great. And I. I just. There are so many huge spreads in this. In this one of just the pirates just looking. Cool poses. The anime is gonna go crazy on this episode. And I'm just. I'm just so excited where we go from here. Like, obviously, you know, there's tons left to do in this flashback where we're going. We've only like, we've just got shaky back, let alone everything else that's going to happen here. So I've Just, I've just been having fun with this. I'm very, very excited for to see what happens next time.
A
Steve.
E
I like this chapter for sure. I think this one was just very intense all the way through. Just like every page. Like, like every page an explosion happened or something.
C
Yes.
E
Just we're like really in the thick of it right now. I do enjoy Shakky having some agency here. Just her just like standing around a bunch of unconscious marines is great. And even her given like summers.
A
Yeah.
E
You know, a good kick as cathartic. But he is such a piece of shit.
A
Like damn.
E
You know, he's kind of more like. It's funny because like when he's first introduced in Elbaf, he's a bit more like I I. He's a bit more of the goober that I wished Killingham was because I'm like, yeah, like I, I. Oh yeah. I thought it was funny when he first got, you know, transported to Elbaf and he's like just in his underwear and stuff. But yeah, that was great. I still don't like him, which is. I think it was good. I think I. My one piece villains can be bastards that entertain me, but I don't have to like them. Yeah, I guess, I guess we're just reserving that for the Knights of God and all the celestial dragons and stuff. But yeah, I think this chapter from what I haven't mentioned yet or covered like it because it is, it was kind of playing some of the greatest hits.
A
Like.
E
Well, Roger and Whitebeard have to like you know, confront each other. You know, we need that. I just like how that's becoming now just like a thing they do. But Rayleigh coming in was very satisfying. Even just like the, the Wile E. Coyote just Somers shaped hole in the wall is, is, is fun because like it's, it's one thing to like. Well, because we know like Sombers can't die and we know he's alive in the current time. So instead of him just going like urgh. Ow. Him just getting. I think you do have to remove him out of the room because we know that since he's immortal, he can't just be laying down in the room while like Rayleigh and Shaki make their escape. So I think this was like a good way of writing him out of the scenario. But yeah, that was like the highlight for me. I kind of want to reiterate what Jose said too. I think this chapter was a bit easier to read. I think it was a good flow to the panels and stuff, and they were pretty clear. But a lot of fun poses too. I think seeing Linlin and Whitebeard stomping through the forest and they're these giants. Compared to an 8 and a half foot tall monkey D Dragon is pretty great. Just, you know, it truly feels like God Valley is. Oh, you're bringing out all your best toys and they're all fighting with each other. So it's like you bring out the Castle Grayskull set and then you have, I don't know, you have like Optimus prime and then like, I don't know, one of your Dragon Ball Z figuarts all in there.
C
And they're all in different scales.
E
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Trunks is in there.
A
Shit. That's exactly what this is like.
E
It's like, this is why. This must be why Fortnite's so popular. God Valley is just. Fortnite. Isn't this kind of like. Yeah, because Fortnite is like you kind of run to the center.
A
Isn't there dancing in Fortnite?
E
There's a lot of things.
F
I can't wait to see that emote on rocks.
A
Well, I guess you have to draw that.
B
Mafi probably has some moves.
E
I really hope Shiki gets announced. But a strong will Shaky. So when he runs, it's just the swords going ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting.
A
Better than Dr. Indigo, which who I do hope shows up like, yeah, despite.
E
You know, like, I. You know, I really don't have any complaints because I know what we're in the middle of right now. So at least it's been satisfying. This was a very satisfying chapter. It's, you know, it's pure mayhem. Bedlam spectacle. And I just love this do you trust me? Panel with Rayleigh. And his hair is like flowing down a little bit. Oda took some extra time there to make sure. It's like, he's hot.
A
Wait. Yeah, go ahead, Go ahead. Sorry.
E
No, this is show. It's like that's, you know. You know, this is a power couple right here.
F
You know how Han Hawk had those delusions of Luffy, like when he was like coming to her? Do you think, like, Shaky has like the same delusions of Rayleigh, like flowers and like a bishonin man.
E
I hope he's like wearing them right.
A
I have to give a shout out to Mel, friend of the show, who said on blue sky of this panel. He's so beautiful. He's like if a man and a woman had a child.
E
I like that post too. I don't know where people think of this. This stuff up, but it's bigger brain than me. No, it was a really great chapter.
A
I get what Mel is saying, but men and women have children a lot. Bring me up.
E
It's ironic.
A
It's just.
C
It's nice to see an Amazonian in a, like, mutual relationship where both of the parties like each other.
F
Yeah.
E
Because it's rare.
F
It's, like, really rare.
A
Yeah. Well, one piece. And Oda has explicitly said so often that romance, especially since it's, you know, romance dawn and, you know, romance as an idea is very much in one piece, but romance like. Like, this is not in one piece very much. Especially, like, what do you call? I know, Unrequited. Required.
B
Requited.
F
If you think about it, it's interesting because, I mean, this last panel, I mean, obviously Rayleigh ends up with the girl, but Roger also gets the woman. Gabon also gets the woman. Clearly the Roger pirates have it going on and we don't.
A
Yeah.
E
I swear Rouge was a character. Thank you.
F
I wonder if we're gonna see her because Roger was a lot older when he met her.
E
I totally forgot about Rouge.
F
Ace just appeared out of the ground.
A
To be fair, that would have been better.
C
In the color spread was supposed to say rouge.
F
Got it.
A
He was looking for the rouge plushie. Yes.
E
They should have just went with the shmee Skywalker.
A
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
E
Just being like, oh, I'm the son of gold.
A
Roger.
E
There was no father. I was just born.
F
Listen, I'm almost convinced they're gonna do that with Luffy, but crocodile theory is where it's at.
E
That'd be so funny. Minicorians.
F
I read a fanfic where it was actually the monkey Ds who just magically got pregnant, so no women were ever involved. And I'm kind of maybe going for that.
A
Steve, any other thoughts?
E
A man and a woman together. What a concept. Hope it works out for them.
A
Is that it? Yeah, I. I got to everyone, right? No, my thoughts. I'll make brief. I echo what everyone said. This was a very much a fun chapter. Like, I've talked to death. My, like, opinions on the flashback as a whole. I think I am slowly warming up to it more and more. I just want to point out. Interesting how little rocks is in this chapter, especially since he seems to be. Let's call it the tertiary focus of this flashback after Loki and Harald. It seems like, you know, vox is also a very important character here. But that also makes me think that the chapters that will Follow. Will probably focus on that story since this one seems to at least somewhat be like the. This was a main point of action that needed to. To be moved aside for Oda in his. What do we call it? Action figure figure arts. All.
B
His playset.
A
His playset. His gray skull playset. Right, yeah.
C
God Valley playset.
A
God Valley playset. I'll write that one down, too. So, yeah, I. But I also agree that we don't really get, like, romance like this in one piece. And this chap. And this chapter, this flashback has been really leaning into it. We've been making the High School Musical jokes, like, how it's very, like, Disney Channel sort of like levels of, like, oh, you like that person. And, you know, there's just. I like.
E
There's no romance. Huh? It's just, you know, it's a Disney.
A
Channel or what's the other. That's.
E
It.
A
Is that the.
E
Is that all we know about romance here?
A
That's the level of romance I think we're getting here. We're not, like, getting, like a.
B
We just are not getting Fabio covers.
A
We're not getting that. That's another level.
E
Rayleigh's kind of Fabio here.
F
Someone request that.
A
Get drawing that, Steve, just for Jill Fabio. Rayleigh. Rayleigh.
B
Rayleigh.
A
There it is. What's I gonna say? But that is it. There's a. It is a very humorous, like, level of romance. And it's. It's not to be taken too seriously. I. Please correct me if you all have different opinions on that. That's just what I've been getting particularly. I mean, look at the end here with Roger Caban, for example. It's like this very, like, poignant romantic moment surrounded by also ridiculousness, which is kind of just one piece. So seeing Oda's take on romance is interesting. I love that it makes sense that, okay, he would flex those muscles for the first time, really, in 27 years in a flashback. Because that's when it makes the most sense. I mean, you. I'm not saying there's been no romance in one piece whatsoever. I mean, like the stuff with Kyras and Scarlet.
F
Beige and chiffon.
A
Beige and chiffon. Oh, well, that's.
F
That's power couple.
A
It has happened. But I feel like it hasn't been, like, the crux of a plot like this. Like, it's never. Also.
B
I just feel like it's never been quite as romantically framed as this.
A
Yeah, yeah.
F
The focus only.
E
It only felt like it was beginning with, like, Kuma and Ginny.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, I look at frames like the one on the last page, where shaky is like, falling into Raleigh's arms. Like, you don't see a panel like that in one piece very often.
A
It's really cute.
B
It's not a thing.
C
I think even one character saying, I'm sorry you had to go through this, and the other one saying that they were so scared. Like, it's very touching. Like, I do. I agree that it's frank that he. Oda likes to sprinkle in comedy so it keeps it light. But I do push back a little bit on the idea that it's not serious because it feels very sincere to me, I guess.
A
Also, I think is more of what I meant than on.
B
I think also the. The physical contact is also kind of rare in one piece. Like, this isn't, like, the most explicit thing in the world, obviously, but, like, whoa, they're hugging. Even thinking back to, like, Kuma and Jenny, I feel like they never had contact. Like, there's not a panel of them in this same kind of way because.
A
One is, like, 30ft tall and the other isn't.
B
But should that matter? No, I don't. I. I think. I think it doesn't. Obviously they have emotional moments together, but, like, in terms of just physical touch, that's just not even. That doesn't register.
F
I think ODA shows intimacy more in the trust that they have with, like, their emotions than they do with, like, they're not, like, make it out in, like, a final panel, you know, which says something.
B
I feel like this is the most physically intimate he's shown characters having not gone through the manga in a bit. But, like, this is at least as far as I can remember.
A
Yeah, it's funny because he almost sounds prudish when talk. Talking about it like that, when he is very much the opposite of that.
B
Yeah, he's not prudish.
A
Let's look at Saint Mafi again here. Mafi. Whatever. But, yeah, no, I. I think it is well done. I. Joey, you're. You're right. I'll. I'll. I'll take my stance back a little bit. I think there's humor. I think the previous chapters are more what I'm thinking about here.
C
Those are very silly.
A
Yeah, this is. This moment is more serious. I think there's just a lot of mellow drama.
F
Yeah, the whole thing is very mellow drama, especially with, like, you know, the other people going after shaky. But, you know, like, this is, like, where she, like, she's been, like, smiling and being stoic. Like the entire time, this is where she can like, let her. Let her guard down and be with the man that she trusts. So I like this less.
A
I also like how Rayleigh had seemingly been playing hard to get and like, not. Yeah, like. Yeah, no, that's a good. Go ahead. Sorry.
C
Basically what I was going to say is that I think those silly, funny chapters leading up to this make it even more powerful because, like, Rayleigh has been seeming very aloof and everyone else has been bouncing off the walls and stuff and now he's like. Now we are seeing a very like, sincere, like, kind of like Oda opening up a little bit and being like. They actually have this. He cares for her a lot and this is a very sweet relationship between the two of them.
A
I've been seeing a lot of discussion about Rayleigh being like, emotional in, you know, the stuff with Luffy, obviously, like, when he left Shibari, you know, he teared up and that there are these moments and he like. Rayleigh is this very emotional guy who like hides that versus Zorro, who has been turning into the live action Zorro and just really loves beheading people. No, Zorro has that too. But like, I think Rayleigh's depiction of like, that like, macho manliness mixed in with like that emotional undercurrent has been a very interesting character study for him. And like, I think a good one. Like, he is someone. He doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve, but they're very much there and he doesn't look like he's hiding them. You know, I think generally. Yeah, yeah.
F
Going off that. I. I love that like, we get like younger Rayleigh and Shakky because they're both still alive. So we get them later and you can see.
A
And they're both still very good looking.
F
Yeah. And they're both together. Awesome. Good job.
A
Yeah.
F
Most marriages do end a divorce, so great job. But.
A
Well, I mean, I don't know if it's a marriage, but they're certainly together close enough.
F
But I. Yeah, I do like when we, you know, you can see characters that have grown up through the years and then you could see like, how they were in their fun, wild days of fighting the government.
A
But like. Yeah. Really. And Shaqi. Yeah. Like, seem like the less of the crazy. The least crazy people in this, specifically on this island at this moment, they're. Sorry, I got a whole tangent about that.
B
No, I think it was a good time to get into.
A
Yeah. I don't even know how that happened. But the. I've. Joey I know why you gave me those pages now, because I got to be Somers and evil. I'm also just coming off of listening to Steve, the live reading of Return of the Jedi. The. Was it Yubby Nubby.
E
Yeah. By the Trojans talk show.
A
Yeah. Please listen. If anyone. If you have a chance, go watch that. It's very funny. Yeah, yeah. Steve's in the audience somewhere. I'm sure you could hear him laughing. I will. I need to do, like, a Steve search next time I watch that, but it's very Emperor in his trolling. I think that's just, like, what I was thinking the whole time. Like, wow, this guy is just evil for the sake of being evil. Like, even of the celestial dragons, even of the holy nights. He is really a gigantic douchebag. Like, to, like, almost a different level. And it's like. And comparing evil people. You know, he's. He's up there. It's. But it's good you having. I think, as. As Steve put it, he is also an entertaining villain in that. I can't wait to just see him get beat up tremendously through the rest of this, through the rest of the Elbaf arc. Whenever we get back to that, like, that's going to be cathartic.
F
I have a feeling he's going to be beaten in a very embarrassing way, and it's going to be great for everybody, honestly. Could totally. Could totally happen, but I feel like he's going to. It's going to be very embarrassing for him, hopefully.
A
Yeah. I think he needs to. So here's like, what is the most satisfying way for him to be taken down? He's all about the melodrama. Speaking of. He's, like, all about this, like, the tragedy. And. And you know, how. What is his, like, Shakespearean comeuppance?
B
It's gonna be like, the other arm and it breaks.
F
It's like in the Dark Knight when the Joker puts those people against each other, but it doesn't work out the way he wants to. He's gonna come up with this, like, crazy scheme. Be like, oh, one of you has to sacrifice each other, and then it just doesn't happen. And then he gets beaten. Like, I feel like that's where we're going with it.
A
Yeah. I feel like it needs. Needs to be Shakespearean. Like, he really needs to eat it. Yeah. Oh, I thought it was crazy that we're in a flashback and we get one of the arc diagrams, like, with the little Chibi rocks and Roger and the sea draw. That's Crazy that we're in a flashback and we have to get one of those. Like, that's what you get in the middle of like a real. Like. Like a dressrosa or like anything else, really.
C
One of Alex's friends that called this the God Valley arc.
A
Yeah, they're. They might be right. Yeah. I just found that freaking nuts that. That we got that. There was something else about that I wanted to mention. Now I don't remember at the same. The we mentioned. We touched on it a bit. The Garp stuff and like his position. I think we are almost certainly toward the end of this flashback going to get like Garp having confronted what the celestial dragons actually do. Like, I think after God Valley, he will probably be given the promotion and he will probably turn it down there. And then we probably are gonna get.
F
Some Garp dragon confrontation. I would think at the end.
A
I've always thought that dragon was not directly related to Garp. That's my like, crazy theory I've always had in the back of my head and not really said out loud because they look nothing alike.
F
But Luffy so much like Garp. I mean. Yeah.
A
But nothing like dragon.
F
That's true. So if Luffy. So if you're just assuming that Skip a dragon was adopted and then Loof and then he adopted Garp's real grandson. I mean, it's one piece. It could happen.
A
It could. It could. Yeah. I didn't know.
F
I forgot to bring this up, but I love that Dragon shaped save Shanks and then Shanks saved Lucy. It's a fun little. Fun little.
A
Yeah, yeah. And just. Yeah. Shanks baby Shanks is very cute. And I think they're also both looking for the. Maybe this is my headcanon. They're both looking for the other twin because when one is lying. Let me see. When. When one lies down, you know, obviously Grant like its hands are up because it was being held. But I. I don't know. I. I don't know if there was like a separation thing going on or if it was just that there was a gigantic battle happening, but I don't know. That's. It's. It's an interesting dynamic that obviously the children aspect of it really gets to me generally and I. I look forward to seeing. Okay, how does Shanks make their way to the Roger Pirates now? And how soon are we gonna see that string? There's a lot that have. There are a lot of pieces that have to move and we don't know how they get to where they get. As Joey put it. I think we're definitely at the part where we know less of what happens and so therefore it is going to be more interesting to read. We've been like retreading a lot the last few chapters from things we've previously seen or heard about, so I look forward to that. That's enough. I talked for a while there. Why don't we move into the next segment? Unless there's any other thoughts here. Since there aren't, let's move on.
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This is the Piece Together segment where we take your questions, comments and theories, including what happens when a man and a woman love each other very much? They make Rayleigh. That's the answer. Kids. Rayleigh, let's start. I guess I'll do it. Disp. Never get to do it. First question comes from Wrong answer. Ahoy Opp. Who made the canals on Reverse Mountain and how? Wrong answers only. You can't take it seriously, they're saying.
B
Okay, good because I don't remember that part of the manga.
A
It's been a while.
F
It's just the.
B
It would be very funny if I just said the right answer.
A
We don't know the right answer.
B
I know. No One knows the right answer.
A
Chill.
F
Did you just a giant finger painting or something carving it? Who knows?
A
Oh, I know the wrong right answer. The right wrong answer is there are sea kings at the bottom of each one just consistently spitting water out. Or maybe just giant whales on all side. Which would make sense. Just blowing out water the whole time. Okay, next question. They're right over there. They're right over there. Straw Hat Pirate 9. My hatred for Summers grows and grows. I'm so glad Rayleigh beat the shit out of him. I'm a sucker for romance. So I absolutely love this chapter's ending. Ray and Shaky are so cute. I really love how Oda tied the. Tied the note there at the end. They mean not. Next one comes from Built God Valley for Rocks and Goal. Oh yeah, that's. That's his first name. I forget. Or his last name. It's his last name, isn't it? It's a surname.
F
Family name.
A
Yeah, right.
C
Family name.
A
Yeah.
E
He's a goal twice removed.
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Hello, my fellow prime rib roasters. What a cool chapter. The Yellow Dog Incident. Nice. I like that reference. Seems to be wrapping up. I like. Well, I like when things get wrapped up. But there's something that will never. That was never quite dealt with. Ages ago in the series. We still don't know what happened on Thriller. Bark Zoro said nothing happened. But I have a tiny inkling. Inkling that he might have been lying. What really happened there? Wrong answers only. Can we give any right answers this week?
F
Every answer I give is wrong, so it doesn't matter.
A
True. What happened? Where does Zorro hide?
E
Zorro tried eating an entire cherry pie on his own and just.
F
Wow.
A
Just got all over him and just.
C
Yeah, Exhaust shaving accident.
A
I'd like if it was a really tiny thing. Yeah, like he nicked. He nicked a little bit. Oh no, I can't tell any.
E
A bird flew into him when he.
A
Was.
E
You know, like Fabio.
A
Nice.
E
Hey, we should draw a parody of that.
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That's a great idea that we've just come up with. Listen to Patreon. The Patreon version. Guys. Subscribe to us. There's next one comes from snp. Hey, O. Opp is Captain John. The father of kid gives three reasons for this. One, they both have Captain in their epithet. No, that is their last name, isn't it?
B
Or is it the first name?
C
No, not for kid.
A
Well, it's their surname.
E
Eustace.
A
Oh, you're right, it is an epithet is quotation. That's even weirder.
C
That's What I was saying, like, I think maybe they're not related, but he takes after him maybe because he has the same powers. And so he's. He's like Captain John, but he's Captain Kid, you know.
E
Anyway, the.
A
The person here continues is this arm made by the magnet fruit like kid. And three, it is to be. It is to be believed that the real life captain, quote unquote, William Kidd's father was someone named Captain John. Kidding. Who died at sea when William is still a young boy. P.S. greg will not be happy when he hears about this, the last part. I don't know what Greg's upset about specifically, but I feel like that's a.
E
Whoop slap kind of thing.
C
Greg was. Greg was talking about not liking everybody being related to everybody.
A
Oh, well, I do agree with that. I guess I wouldn't really care here since I'm not a big kid or John, like, who cares? But it's. It does seem stupid and unnecessary.
B
You're not a Captain John fan character who's been in the series for like what, four chapters?
A
Oh no, he was a thriller bark.
F
Thriller bark.
A
I forgot about him forever.
F
Since Buggy.
A
He's a zombie. Actually, he's dead, to be fair. In Thriller Park. So not much of a character.
F
Most of these characters are dead?
A
No, they're. Yeah. Reverse eye Satchel says, hey baby Bonkers. I want Zorro to sleep on me instead of a Shirahoshi plush. Well, you said it.
F
I'll take the plush.
A
Josh, is that you? Yoink. Yeah. Is this Josh, I'm fascinated by Maffy's weird mouth beam. Do you think that she is a devil fruit or is just really bad breath from smoking that cigar all the time? Do you think that dragon still has a burn scar from getting hit with it? Do you think. Do you think she is still a holy God's knight or did she get her shit wrecked just because Japanese pluralization is weird?
B
We kind of talked about the Japanese pluralization a little bit because I think this is referencing the baby babies thing, right?
A
I think. Yeah.
F
I don't think she would be in trouble for this. I think the mook might be in trouble for not having two babies, but I think she's probably high enough.
A
It's like, do you think I have a. I mean, this happened, what was it, 38 years ago, right?
F
How old is Shanks?
A
Yeah. However old Shanks is. But I think it was 38. Everyone in the comments will correct me, I'm sure, but like, how many of these Knights of God do you Actually think are still gonna be around and doing the same job 38 years later. How many people could really hold the same.
C
I think we're gonna see them and they're all gonna be old, which is gonna be fun.
A
True.
C
Gonna be like old versions of themselves.
A
Yeah.
F
I will say her powers are very. It's very interesting because all we get is like this laser beam. And. And I mean, that could be anything in the manga, to be fair. I don't know. I'm very.
C
I do like the idea of it being related to her cigar. So like if she can breathe heat or something, that's how she lights her cigars. Or that's why she. She smokes cigars. Because she has like an internal fire.
F
Like a volcano on her head. Indicating that maybe. Yeah.
C
Yeah, right? Yeah. The volcano. You calling it a volcano? Like, kind of like.
F
I don't know. It could be.
C
Yeah. I like that.
E
Krakatoa.
F
Thank you, Steve. It's the first thing I thought when I was.
C
I mean, it can't necessarily. I mean, it could be magma. It'd be like Akainu's power if it's not around.
F
That would be crazy.
C
But I don't think it would be drawn like that if it were magma.
F
It's almost more like Kizaru's, to be honest. But that's like interesting.
C
Or like. Like a pacifistas.
F
Yeah, right. I don't know.
A
Yeah, it's. I like that. It's a mystery. I don't need that ever answered either. I think I'd be fine.
F
Shut up, Zach. I need answers to this woman.
A
Look, Shirahoshi is much better for you in that they are not.
F
Shirahoshi is 16 years old and she's like a daughter to me. This woman is not 16 years old, so she doesn't have to be.
A
That's true. You know what? Stand corrected. This person could be literally hundreds of years old. So that's fine. Next question comes from Sailor Karna. Hey, Opp. I love this chapter. Roger and Gabon being really's wingman and helping him. Yeah, I purposely pronounce it like that. And helping him get to his love is one of my favorite parts. May summers have the worst death possible. Hey, we all agreed on that. My second favorite part is the color spread. I love seeing two types of grandpas, Brooke and Jimbe. Brooke is the silly grandpa that'll. That'll be. That'll play games with the grandkids, knowing his back will be hurting later. And Jinbe is the grandpa that'll take A nap anywhere. When he wakes up, tell a cool story and go back to sleep. And now I'm missing my grandpa. Well, here's to your grandpa. And yes, I think Jinbe and Brooke both function very well as that. That it is a great color spread that we could have spent a long time just trying to find all the characters too. Wizpy. Wizpie. Whatever. Hey. Hey. Oop. Long time no see. It looks like we've established most of the main rocks pirates so far in this flashback, but were there any other people you were expecting or hoping to see on the crew? Zeff and Hiriluk were funk candidates for a while, but it seems those ships have sailed. That would have been.
C
I honestly didn't think about it too much. I'm satisfied.
F
Yeah. I don't. I don't think. I know. People are always like, ooh, Zeph was probably some. That's like high class pirate. I mean, I think if that was true, we would have gotten some kind of hint of that during Sanji's flashback. I think he's just the dude who made it to paradise and was probably like, well, fuck this and then left.
A
Yeah. I think. I think it was established that he was just a pirate, you know. Yeah.
E
If Zeff showed up at God Valley, I'd be like, oh, come on, I'm here to cook.
F
Who's hungry?
A
They do need a chef.
F
Yeah. The Celestial Dragon's like, we sourced the greatest chef ever. Then Zeph just shows up.
A
Bogard Fad Club President Cram says Ahoy Opp. From a hotel in Cyprus. Extremely banger chapter as always this week with a stellar color spread. I love the frantic action. It reminds me a lot of Marineford or the raid on Onigashima. And it is amazing. I love as well the fact that we could see what made dragons start the Freedom Fighters as a pacifistic force. Initially clearly not wanting to emulate the destruction here long before he finally. Sorry. Accepted that peaceful protest is not the only way. And oh, the romance at the end is so cute. My question for this week is, do you think we're gonna see Koi form Kaido? It seems to potentially be implied here with his disappointment at Linlin.
E
I want it so bad.
C
That would be fun.
A
I want to see him a floppy fish. I just want to see him on the ground.
E
Zack, I think you were on the episode when Alex said he wants it to look like the drawing Luffy made of Nami when he thought.
A
I definitely remember that coming.
F
I have that tattooed on my ankle.
E
See?
C
Jose oh man. I just want him flopping around helplessly.
F
Like Magikarp until someone punches him enough.
A
That's what I was actually thinking. And I'm not even.
E
Like, people be like the character assassination of the badass Kaido.
F
Clearly, Toei doesn't like Kaido very much.
A
Love you, Jill. I gotta. I gotta say, Kaido needs more quirkiness, especially as like a One Piece character. So give. Yeah, throw that in there.
F
I will say. I. I gotta say, I have loved the interactions between the Rocks Pirates because they are so antagonistic to each other at all times. Like every single time they're talking each other, just like cursing at each other, getting each other's way. I think it's a very funny dynamic.
E
You know that Odd Couple. Odd Couple trope where they're like, will they ever get along? This is one time where no. No, they won't.
A
No, they'll try and kill each other. I. You know, we. We get. We used to get asked the question, like, if there were any spin off of One Piece, which would. I'd be absolutely fine just watching the Rocks Pirates as like a. Like an episodic, like comedy manga.
F
Like with big mom's kids, like roaming around everywhere.
A
Like, it's gotta be kind of crazy. Looks just like the plushes from the color spread with the same eyes. Yeah, I like a completely unserious. Like. I mean, it kind of is that already. So like, just seeing that fleshed out would be totally fun. I think this is the last one from Straw Hat Rigby. Hey, Opp. What a chapter. Things happened anyway, for the last few weeks, I found myself on the opposite end of a lot of your opinions regarding the flashback. But this chapter actually left me a little wanting. This feels like the opposite of our opinion. Wow. Yeah. It's the first chapter since the flashback started that I was just sort of on a lot of things. Not that they weren't interesting or cool. They just didn't hit me, I guess. Anyway, a few weeks ago I left a dis piece talking about how I noticed and Slash liked how ODA has matured as a writer. One thing I did really love in this chapter is what exemplifies. Is what exemplifies that ODA has said he can't write romance and doesn't want romance in one piece. But he does it well. Here he gives Rayleigh his badass moment and then draws him and Shakky crying into each other's arms after the Great note callback. He could have just had Rayleigh save her and then have him be a stoic hero. But instead he really leaned into the true emotion of it all, which he does in one piece a lot. But here was such a great moment. Thanks for everything, you all do, and have a great week. Yeah, I feel like we've had a lot of people out there disagreeing with our opinions generally. Although I feel like we've had kind of subdued opinions. Like, I think generally my feeling on this flashback is like a lot of really cool stuff, just organized. Not in the way that I prefer. I don't know if that's the like. So, like, it feels like a conflagration of like, a lot of things happening and not just because there's explosions on every page. But I'm not negative. I will withhold my judgment until the end. And I've said that. And I know it's kind of a cop out, but I know my opinion on it will be different at the end. Any other thoughts on any of that?
C
No. I basically said how I feel about it at the manga recap.
A
So. Yeah.
E
I think we might have gotten an email. Did you check?
A
I think we did, yeah. And I forgot this comes from Daddy Long Legs, the father. What a time to be alive. Babies are getting dropped on their heads. And Strewson, of all characters is getting a lot of attention from Greg for some reason. If you had his devil fruit Strewson's, what food would you look forward to saving money and time on buying and preparing. Isn't the whole thing to just make anything? It's a food.
F
But then I guess. So are you saying, like, what is the easiest thing to find to eat? Like dirt, I guess. Trash.
A
But it all tastes like crap when he makes it himself. Right? Like when he. Is that true? No, he.
E
When we first see him in the. The Big mom flashback, he's like cutting up like a stump.
A
Yeah, but I think he. Oh, no, it was that it tasted good, but it doesn't fill you up or something like that. There was. There was a catch to it. Like it was no nutrients, you know.
E
You'Re not getting the nutrients from it.
F
Well, that's just depressing, maybe.
A
Sorry, I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to.
E
I would have, like. I don't know, like wagyu steak, something.
A
Like that, you know.
F
But like, that's already food. It's like, what would you.
C
No, I guess this is what the question is. Like, what food would you like to make at home now that you don't have to spend money on it?
A
Right.
C
Because you can just make it out of whatever.
A
So what in your home would you like to eat if you could? And I mean I know Jose's answers are the tapes.
E
I would hope paper towels like turned into like you know, fruit roll ups, you know, yummy.
B
I mean I guess if I had to I would eat my Blu ray and DVD collection. Just ration it out.
A
Don't do physical, physical media.
B
Just eat physical media.
F
That's the spicy ass hot toys.
C
I will say this. I have a part time day job where I work with vinyl records and that vinyl looks like candy.
F
Yummy.
C
My colored vinyl looks like something that I wish I could eat.
A
My Ocula volumes because I have not yet opened them and I've had them for like six years. Same.
F
Oh dude, my bath bombs. Probably awesome. Think people already try eating those at home?
E
I would eat a bath bomb.
F
Right?
A
Okay, kids at home, please don't eat your bath bombs.
F
Even the devil fruit ones.
E
When was. Yeah, when Lush did like the TMNT collab and they made like little pizzas.
B
Eat that.
A
I want a pizza.
F
I had a friend who worked at Lush and they said people were just, they would always try to eat the soap and I'm just like, okay, but.
B
Now you can if you have one certain power.
F
Do you think you also have to know how to cook or does it come with the. No, I think it's just that'd be really sad otherwise.
B
I mean what is cooking? Can I just throw it in the microwave and you know, beep beep beep. Five minutes later it's done.
F
Roasted stump. I guess like.
A
Many questions that'll do it for piece together. Thank you. Sorry about that.
B
Don't put stuff in the right.
E
Why not?
A
Let's, let's round off the show. This podcast is supported by FX's English teacher. Last year's critically acclaimed series returns to follow Evan, Gwen and Markie as they vie for their students divided attention. See why Cosmopolitan called its premiere season a master class of comedy. While Glamour raved it's the year's funniest and most heartwarming new comedy series, FX's English Teacher. All new Thursdays on FX. All episodes now streaming on Hulu. This has been the One Piece podcast episode 886 for September 29th. Thank you all for coming on the show. Another fun week. I believe the manga is back next week so we'll be going through 1162 then. We have a lot of fun stuff planned, most of which are too early in the planning stages to talk about. But know that we should have ADR director Emily Fajardo on next week. So look forward to. Oh, I'm sorry. In two weeks because Joey, I forgot you're on a week early because you're.
C
On a special guest next week.
A
Joey's the special guest next week.
E
Joey wanted to ensure that there wouldn't be like a manga break. So he's like, I better hop on a week early.
A
That's true. I forgot Joey has that has that power. Joey, where can people find you?
C
I'm Joey Weiser on Blue sky and joeyweiser Comics on Instagram. My Instagram is mostly art focused, whereas my Blue Sky, I post about manga and anime and movies and all sorts of whatever stray thoughts I have. So check me out there. And please check out my graphic novels. My newest graphic novel is the Littlest Fighter, which is a Kaiju inspired story and my other books, Ghost Hog and Dragon Racer are available. Merman's a little bit harder to get a hold of in print, but it's also still available digitally so check them out. Thanks.
A
I think. I think I could. What are the ages that are suggested for it again?
C
Third through fifth grade. Is the. Is the like a little bit demographic that the publisher puts it at. But I have readers of all different ages.
A
Yeah, okay, I gotta take a look because I want to buy those when I. He is ready to go. Jose. Where can people find you?
B
You can find me at arguingmeadows on Instagram and bluesky. I am going to be at Anime Week in Atlanta this December and I'm going to be taking photography or cosplay photos of anybody who would want to sign up with me. You can find the application to sign up for that@ arguingmeadows.com and my social media is also there, so I'm pretty easy to follow. And also take a look at some of the photos I've done because I'm. I'm really getting into that. It's a lot of fun and as well as I recently did trailers for the Uzumaki Blu Ray and the Chainsaw Man Blu Ray for Viz Media and I don't know, women wearing shoulder pads just had its season finale last night as of when this comes out. So go watch that on HBO Max. I have nothing to do with the show. I just think it's really good.
A
I know it's been streaming on YouTube, I think.
B
No, it's on HBO Max.
A
No, but I've seen they've had like a live stream on YouTube, I think adult Swim that I'm noticing. I don't know, I don't know if it's like the full show or what. Thank you, Jose. Jose is a great photographer. Please take him up on that. If you're around Jill, where can people find you?
F
You can find me at Pirates on Luck on Blue Sky. You find me in Final Fantasy 14 on the Ultro server as Pyrrha Unluck. As usual.
A
I forgot the. The story with Jose at my wedding. My mom just bothering the hell out of him. I forgot about it.
B
It's very funny you mentioned that because like, so my sister in law is getting married and I'm really, really excited to go. But then I heard from my wife that she was not hiring a photographer.
A
Oh no.
B
Straight up looked at my wife. I'm like, you need to be ready when I get asked to be the.
A
Photographer you are going to be.
B
Oh, guess what happened two days later. I got asked and I'm like, I.
A
Told you to be fair. So I, I don't take. I don't take like film photography like you, but I take photographs a lot. And so my sister does this to me all the time. So I could.
B
I'm happy to do it though. I'm just like, look, it's fine.
E
I'm just.
B
You need to also remember I'm a guest here too.
A
Right? That's. That's always. And I was yelling, mom, don't tell Jose to do that. Right? Steve, Come on.
E
He's not the photographer, Mom.
A
Yes, we all remember this. And now everyone else listening does too. Steve, where could people find you?
E
SteveDerko.com, social media like Blue Sky, Instagram. That's Steve Yurko with a handle. Listen to me on Prozd. Plays games over on YouTube. Listen to 4Kids Flashback too, because we might have some more episodes coming down the pipeline at some point, but it's still a good show nonetheless.
A
And you should listen to it. And it doesn't. It doesn't. Well, it doesn't age poorly. It ages well. So you could always listen. I. I don't know why I said.
E
It like damning words.
A
It doesn't age.
F
What are you implying?
A
You should listen to four Kids if.
B
You thought it was for kids, it's not. It'll age gracefully.
C
It's already about the 90s, so it's not getting any.
A
That's what I. I just mean it. It's.
E
It's just because the.
A
I mean, unlike this show, it is. It is a timeless series. So please check that out. Everyone had Jill. Did I give it. Did I give you A chance to.
F
Yes. But you can still find me in Final Fantasy 14 on the server.
A
Okay, I did. Of course. Final Fantasy 14 all the time. You can find us@onepeacepodcast.com or patreon.com One Piece podcast. Anywhere you get your podcast, you should be listening to us. Including Apple podcasts, Spotify, and we're also on YouTube. We post episodes the same day they come out everywhere else. I want to give a huge shout out to our editor, Delaney, artist Steve Yurko, for his drawing that I'm sure is going to be very powerful this week. And everyone else who helps out with the show, thank you. We will be back next week with special guest Joey Weiser.
E
Can't wait to hear from him.
A
Yeah, I don't know who he is, but. Well, and also our recap of chapter 1162. And I think we're going do our anime recap since the anime is that these coming weeks, it's off for two weeks. Steve, do you remember offhand I. Sam.
E
Told me there's a break coming up, so it might be next week. But there's two new. Like there's last week's episode and this week's episode we have to cover.
A
I know there's a break and a recap episode coming up, so I think about CP0. Don't fret.
E
Those. Those will be here.
A
Yeah, looking forward to that. I need to catch up with the anime because it looks insane. But until then, my name is Zach.
E
And my name is Steve.
A
We'll see you next week, everyone. Goodbye.
C
Bye, baby. Love, Shaq.
E
Okay, little Shaq, here come the B52s. This is.
C
This is as big as a whale.
A
Oh, my God, it is a whale.
F
Well.
E
This was a great episode. This is like when a man and a woman make a podcast.
F
Four men and a woman, I guess, but yeah.
A
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They see us.
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Release Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Zach, Ed, Steve
Featured Guests: Jill Knight, Eisner-nominated artist Joey Weiser, DVD enthusiast Jose Argumedo
This episode centers on an in-depth, entertaining break-down of One Piece Chapter 1161: “A Song of Love Bound Under a Hail of Arrows”. The hosts and guests dissect the chapter’s wild action, the remarkable color spread, and pivotal character moments, especially focusing on Rayleigh and Shakky’s dramatic reunion. The discussion also explores new mysteries, memorable new and old characters, and the ever-escalating chaos of the God Valley flashback—mixing expert analysis, humor, and genuine excitement for all things One Piece.
“All the best romantic scenes do have explosions happening in the background.”
— Jill Knight, 53:06
“Just, you know—this is a power couple right here.”
— Steve, 71:00
“What happens when a man and a woman love each other very much? They make Rayleigh. That’s the answer, kids.”
— Zach, 90:00
Jump Cover: Nods to the Japanese “rabbits making mochi on the moon” myth (12:32).
Panel Discussion:
Color Spread Deep Dive:
Yamato Story Cover Page: Yamato, Kinemon, and Momo at a lantern-lit memorial for Wano’s fallen, sparking speculation about character surnames and pasts (22:36).
God Valley Escalates:
Character Chaos:
Dragon’s Crisis and Baby Switch:
Pirate Colossals Stomp In:
Rayleigh & Shakky's Rescue (50:55–53:37):
Joey Weiser: The chapter stands out for its increased emotional resonance and relevance to the ongoing Straw Hat story: “It’s tying into the current story in a way I find compelling… Summers is so terrible, you really want to see him get his ass handed to him.” (55:22)
Discussion of Oda’s Romance:
Rayleigh and Shakky as Unique:
Saint Maffy’s “Mysterious” Powers:
God Valley Battle Royale:
Garp and Dragon:
Future Theories:
Saint Maffy’s Introduction
Color Spread Breakdown
Rayleigh & Shakky’s Reunion
Oda’s Handling of Transition, Pluralization, and Chaos
The Power of Melodrama
Future Speculation
This episode stands out as an exuberant, knowledgeable celebration of One Piece’s blend of wild action, slapstick, and authentic emotion. The panel’s keen analysis of new characters, translation nuances, and narrative choices (with a running undercurrent of jests and inside fandom jokes) make it both a definitive resource and an entertaining listen for fans who need more than a synopsis—empathy for the series’ heart and hilarious digressions included.
Summary by The One Piece Podcast AI – “Where what we hold in our hearts is ours forever.”