Episode 890, “God Valley Babies” (with Luke Herr)

Summary

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The One Piece Podcast: Episode 890, “God Valley Babies”

Release Date: October 27, 2025
Host: Zach (Maji Media)
Featured Guests: Ed, Stephen Paul (official One Piece translator), Sam Leach, Jill Knight, and special guest Luke Herr (Domance Dawn Podcast)

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off with a fun, fast-paced roundtable welcoming back the podcast crew and introducing guest Luke Herr, co-host of the Simpsons/One Piece crossover podcast "Domance Dawn." The heart of the episode is a deep dive manga recap for Chapter 1163: "Promise"—in the midst of the groundbreaking God Valley flashback. The team breaks down the chapter’s lore bombs, character interactions, and wild action; offers fan Q&A; and wraps with signature One Piece trivia.

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1. Special Guest: Luke Herr & Domance Dawn Podcast

[03:05–09:50]

• Luke’s “One Piece origin story”: Grew up in the 4Kids era; got hooked via both the anime and manga; did a rewatch during COVID, leading to his own podcast creation.
• Podcast premise: “Domance Dawn” bridges The Simpsons and One Piece — comparing their original US/Japan air dates, and re-casting One Piece characters with Simpsons equivalents, e.g. “Our Monkey D. Luffy is Stretch Dude Bart” ([05:10] Luke).
• Notable bits: Audience and guest suggestions influence future character castings; humorous Simpsons and One Piece crossovers discussed, e.g. “We’ve used J.K. Rowling as one of the Celestial Dragons so they can get punched in the face.” ([09:57] Luke)
• Favorite Straw Hat: Usopp
• Favorite Antagonist: “Sanji. …He’s his own worst enemy.” ([07:46] Luke, joking about Sanji’s post-timeskip persona)

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2. Spotlight: One Piece Community News

[16:33–22:36]

• Announcement: The current One Piece editor and anime producer will make a major anime/live-action announcement soon (timed for after this episode airs).
• One Piece Magazine’s new bulky issue is sold out in Japan; possible reseller hoarding; reprint announced soon.
• Discussion of ongoing and upcoming arcs, magazine features, and merchandise.

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3. Manga Recap: Chapter 1163 – “Promise”

[23:54–69:46]

Opening

• Oda’s author comment: Gushes about Netflix’s “Kiss or Die” improv game show – “the pinnacle of human achievement.”
• Cover page: Luffy doing parkour with white gibbons ("Cool monkey") — host confusion about potential puns.

Main Chapter Breakdown

Chaos at God Valley

• Saturn is being possessed/controlled by Imu, exhibiting unnatural, inky tentacle transformations and attacking both Marines and bystanders with “no loyalty.”
• Roger and Gaban are strategizing among the chaos. Garp is furious about “the kind of freak who’d sit atop those maggots”—Celestial Dragons—prompting pig-latin jokes among the hosts ([34:55]).
• Long-awaited crossover fight: Rocks faces down the possessed Saturn/Imu.
  • Exchange:
    • Rocks: “Hey, you, king of the bilge rats, you’re here to kill me, aren’t you?”
    • Imu: “So it was the Davy Jones.”
    • Rocks: “You got the wrong guy. I’ve never even met him. …However, promises are meant to be kept.”
    • Imu: “Which is exactly why thy kind must be erased from history.” ([36:56]–[38:01])
  • Hosts dive into speculative translation details about “Davy Jones” and “promises.”

Crew Dynamics and Betrayals

• Rocks’ crew is dissolving mid-battle:
  • Captain John’s “magnet-magnet fruit” powers revealed as he pulls treasure across the valley, confirming long-held theories ([43:21]).
  • Gonzu[i], probably with the “Bomb-Bomb Fruit,” blasts Captain John using snot projectiles.
  • Shiki protests as his crew turns on each other; everyone scrambles for billion-berry chests, each trying to betray the other.
  • Big Mom and Kaido argue over devil fruit and gold. “[Kaido] can’t spit out what he’s already eaten!” ([65:49])

Supernovae Team-Up: The “Legendary” Attack Spread

• [51:21–57:40] Giant Two-Page Spread:
  • Garp, Roger, Rocks, Whitebeard, Big Mom, and Kaido all launch their signature attacks at Imu/Saturn in an instantly iconic moment.
  • Kaido’s “attack” is literally just him yelling “dragon”—hosts lose it:
    • “That’s the funniest fucking thing.” ([56:41] Zach)
  • Oda’s blend of absurd humor and hype gets high praise for this spread.

Shanks & Baby Teach—God Valley Babies

• Dragon is caring for baby Shanks, who (in true toddler fashion) crawls off unsupervised and ends up inside a treasure chest—clearly setting up his future “found in a chest” backstory.
  • “Is this how Shanks ends up in the treasure chest? …He just saw shiny things and it accidentally closed on him.” ([64:32] Zach)
• Imu explicitly targets “a woman and child striving very hard to live” — panels show Baby Blackbeard and his mother escaping.
• Rocks attempts to stop Imu, but is hit by the ominous “Domi Reversi” ability, causing him to grow demon fangs and lose control, paralleling what we’ve seen in the present day.

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4. Chapter Wrap-Up & Analysis

Major Themes/Takeaways:

• The episode’s hosts are in awe of Oda’s ability to juggle so many plotlines, deliver lore, and make the flashback arc both tense and comical.
• High praise for the characterization of Young Kaido as a “shitty little brother” — described as the surprise star of the arc.
• Speculation on how Rocks’ “Domi Reversi” possession will lead to his downfall and the God Valley Incident’s infamy.
• Extended fan theories: How Blackbeard’s ambitions may tie in (possibly seizing Imu’s power), the logistics of Devil Fruits, and whether Garp’s actions will demand repercussions.
• Running skepticism and humor over the continual reveals of parental lineage ("Is Captain John Kid’s real dad?") and One Piece’s recurring “baby in a treasure chest” motif.
• Everyone expects this flashback to last well into 2026, paralleling the length of the Oden flashback.

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5. Piece Together: Fan Q&A & Theories

[95:56–122:45]

• Pig Latin puns dominate—inside joke sparked by this week’s pig-latin gag in the manga ("Ixnay on the Anderslay").
• The crew addresses questions about the future role of Law, Kid, and other Worst Generation characters, and the possible familial tie-ins (who is Kid’s father, really?).
• Several solid bits:
  • “I’m enjoying Captain John more than Captain Kid.” ([97:50] Zach)
  • “Maybe the promise [Imu refers to] is the original Davy Jones’s promise?” ([85:56] Sam)
  • Oda’s typical world-building quirks, the technicalities of Devil Fruits, and fan speculation about Imu’s “amorphous shadow” form ([107:00]).
  • “What would your special technique versus Imu be?” Crew jokingly invent their signature attacks (the “Corny Stunner,” “The Recliner,” “Slut for the Slut”).

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6. Lightning Round: One Piece Trivia

[130:07–156:01]

• The crew finishes with a classic, competitive round of “random chapter number” trivia, where they must recall specific events, cover stories, and obscure characters from randomly selected chapters in the manga.
• Jill ekes out a surprise victory in the last round—everyone riffs on their memories (or lack thereof) of dressrosa arc, Punk Hazard’s “lettered SAD laboratories,” and more.
• Hilarious, fast-paced, and closing on the note that no one remembers every One Piece character, no matter how much of an expert they are.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [05:07] Luke Herr:
  “Dawn is a Simpsons and One Piece podcast where we look at them as contemporary animated series... and we cast any new One Piece characters with Simpsons characters.”
• [07:46] Luke Herr (on Sanji as an antagonist):
  “He’s his own worst enemy, so I guess that could work.”
• [36:56]–[38:01] Rocks & Imu’s Standoff:
  “So it was the Davy Jones.” — Imu
  “You got the wrong guy. I've never even met him. ... However, promises are meant to be kept.” — Rocks
• [56:41] Zach (on Kaido’s “attack”):
  “That’s the funniest fucking thing.”
• [64:32] Zach (on Baby Shanks):
  “Is this how Shanks ends up in the treasure chest? …He just saw shiny things and it accidentally closed on him.”
• [80:44] Jill Knight (on Blackbeard’s childhood):
  “How does he end up on Whitebeard's crew? ...He looks just like him.”

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Time-Stamped Highlights

• [03:05–09:50] — Luke Herr’s One Piece journey & origins of Domance Dawn Podcast.
• [23:54–51:12] — Manga Recap: Chapter 1163 ("Promise"), featuring Saturn’s possession, all-star attacks, Captain John’s powers revealed, and the chaotic collapse of the Rocks Pirates.
• [56:41–57:40] — Kaido “Dragon” attack panel: hosts’ comedic highlight.
• [62:54–64:43] — Shanks, the “God Valley Baby,” climbs into the treasure chest.
• [69:46–78:53] — Analytical wrap-up: implications of the Domi Reversi, Rocks’ fate, and Blackbeard’s origins.
• [95:56–122:45] — Piece Together: Q&A, pig-latin puns, fan theories, devil fruit dialogues, and recurring lineage questions.
• [130:07–156:01] — Lightning Round: Random chapter trivia, deep cuts, and podcast in-jokes.

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Episode Vibe & Final Thoughts

Lively, welcoming, and chaotic in the best way—the podcast strikes a balance between rigorous manga analysis, wild fan theories, and goofy banter. The hosts’ infectious enthusiasm highlights why the God Valley flashback is already a new all-time favorite. Luke Herr’s Simpsons/One Piece crossover brings extra color, and the trivia round showcases the deep (and sometimes random) knowledge needed for One Piece fandom.

If you love deep lore, jokes about Kaido yelling “dragon”, and speculation on the fate of One Piece’s lost babies, this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Zach]

Sam. This is the One Piece podcast episode 890 for the week of Monday, October 27th, 2025. My name is Zach.

[Ed]

My name is Ed.

[Zach]

And on today's episode, we have very special guest translator for One piece in weekly, Shonen, Jump and Manga. Plus, we have Stephen Paul with us. How's it going, Steven?

[Stephen Paul]

Hey, it's going well. The seasons are turning, the days are getting shorter. I'm just saying we do without you.

[Zach]

What would we do without you, Stephen?

[Jill Knight]

California weather.

[Zach]

Yeah, I was gonna say you're the one person.

[Ed]

Everyone remember to change your clocks after we record next week's show.

[Zach]

Are you telling the listeners to do that? Because I don't think they know when we record. That might be okay. Anyway, we also have our anime recap host, Sam Leach. How's it going, Sam?

[Sam Leach]

I get to work a night shift on daylight savings shift, so that's a long night for me.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, yeah, Fallback.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah. You get the extra hour. We have contributor Jill Knight with us. How's it going, Jill?

[Jill Knight]

Going good. Spent the whole day yesterday at Solvang, which, if you don't know, is the Dutch capital of either the US Or California. I don't know, but it's a town with a bunch of tourists and a bunch of bakeries.

[Zach]

My two well, one of. One of them sounds good.

[Jill Knight]

I forgot to adjust. Hello, Sluts. Yes, well, I'm happy to be back.

[Ed]

The Dutch do love to get baked.

[Jill Knight]

That's why I felt right at home.

[Zach]

Last but certainly not least, our special guest today from the Domance dawn podcast, which we have a shared artist between. Mike Padden. Not Mike Padden. We have Luke her, one of the co hosts with us today. Welcome, Luke.

[Luke]

Ahoy hoy.

[Zach]

Yeah, that. That is appropriate as a Simpsons reference.

[Luke]

That was also. That was also the initial greeting that they were going to have for calling people on the telephone.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Luke]

Instead of saying hello.

[Zach]

I've also listened to Simpson's commentaries.

[Jill Knight]

We really missed out on that, actually. Ahoy hoy is way more fun.

[Zach]

Ahoy hoy is way more fun. Moosh. Moosh. Right. Isn't something like that in Japanese? I'm very good at Japanese now, if anyone is left listening, Luke, we asked new guests a few things, but first, tell us your One Piece origin story. What brought you to the series?

[Luke]

I grew up during the 4Kids era, and it was on, and I was not very discerning, but I had a blast watching it. And then I had a friend who had the first volume of the manga who was very into watching all the dubs. And then I just kind of fell in and out of it during my life. And then during COVID I started doing a full rewatch, and that eventually led to me starting the podcast.

[Ed]

Oh, yes. And if you could explain to the listeners just what the purpose of the podcast is that you do.

[Luke]

Yeah, don't. Dawn is a Simpsons and One Piece podcast where we look at them as contemporary animated series between the American release dates of Simpsons episodes and the Japanese release dates of One Piece episodes. And then we look and match any. Or. And then we look and we cast any new One Piece characters with Simpsons characters.

[Ed]

Yeah. Within. With input from the audience.

[Luke]

There are enough. We do some skewing of the lines. Like our monkey D. Luffy is Stretch Dude Bart from the Treehouse of Horror. Because that was like one of the first episodes that launched the same time as the first episode of One Piece in Japan. So, you know, it's. It's kismet.

[Stephen Paul]

Wow.

[Zach]

Yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. Because so you do the episodes that came out the same time in the United States as the ones that came out as the One Piece in Japan.

[Luke]

Yeah. So, like, during the summers, when there's Japanese One Piece episodes, the episodes are shorter because there's no new Simpsons episodes to talk about.

[Ed]

And appropriately, you guys cast Poochie as Ace.

[Zach]

No, no, it was. You're thinking of Roy.

[Luke]

Roy. Yeah. Chopper is our Poochie nice or Poochie is our Chopper.

[Zach]

I think the thing that Steve or I probably posted after was the Moe's. You stole our bit because we've been doing some nice things.

[Ed]

I actually, I think back when we were all on Twitter still. I got a couple. I got to cast a couple. I cast Michael and Huckle as Eugene and Rusty, the perverts.

[Zach]

There we go. Um, yeah. But no, seriously, it's good to have more Simpsons and One Piece content. Both needed. I sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but I. I think there's always. It's always good to have more One Piece and Simpsons stuff, especially mashed together. And plus, I love the art. And I'm not just saying that because I'm. I'm a Mike Patton fan, but.

[Luke]

Oh, yeah, we've had a great group of artists. Colt Hoskins was our initial artist, and then we brought on Mike, and Mike has done a great job. And Chris Dobbins, who I believe is also on the show. She has done a few covers here and there. Like, I am spoiled by a number of really talented.

[Ed]

Yeah, Chris has been on relatively recently. That was a few weeks ago, I think.

[Zach]

Yeah. So our questions that we asked new guests. One right answer first. Who is your favorite straw hat pirate?

[Luke]

I'm team Usopp.

[Zach]

Is that a cool.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, you pass. All right.

[Zach]

Okay. Okay. Who is your favorite antagonist in the series?

[Luke]

Sanji. I'm coming in. Like, we're at the time skip right now, which is peak. Oh, what have you done to sweet Sanji? What have you done to the secret Lynch? And it's. It's rough.

[Zach]

That's a rough time. That is. Yeah. Yeah. He's his own worst enemy, so I guess that could work.

[Stephen Paul]

It was the bear market at that time.

[Zach]

Yeah. You could have answered Sanji for both of those and it would have made sense. I'm sure Steve would in absentia. The next question. Which is your favorite One Piece character that does not fit in one of those two buckets who is not neither a straw hat nor an antagonist, which in your case is the same.

[Luke]

Yeah, I mean, I'm team Barto.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

That's a good one.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Luke]

I am both looking forward to getting to him in the anime because we're in episodes that I have not seen before. But I also know people have warnings.

[Zach]

About Dressrosa in the anime. Yeah, absolutely. In the manga. Also, a Little bit.

[Jill Knight]

I just finished my rewatch of Dressrosa. Yeah. Sometimes with the hair.

[Ed]

Bartolomeo kind of looks like Lester.

[Zach]

From. I can see Lester. You're trying to. You're trying to cast a little bit. Yeah.

[Luke]

I mean, if people have Hody Jones suggestions, though. He is open right now.

[Stephen Paul]

He's coming up.

[Luke]

Mm.

[Zach]

That's a tough one. I also don't know my post season 10 Simpsons very well at all. And there's a lot. Yeah, I mean, that's what you guys are doing.

[Luke]

Yeah, yeah. Like, it is a totally viable strategy to just watch whatever episodes we're at. And it's like this new character fits well enough and then no one. No one really objects because they don't know enough of characters.

[Zach]

That's true. You could say anyone, and I'd be like, oh, okay, that's a Simpsons character now. I don't know.

[Stephen Paul]

Do you.

[Zach]

Same with One Piece for most people.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Do. Do you also take the, like, the guest stars? The celebrity guest stars?

[Sam Leach]

I was about to ask.

[Luke]

Yeah, yeah. We have used J.K. rowling as one of these celestial dragons just so they can get punched in the face.

[Zach]

Nice. Charlo. Specifically.

[Luke]

Yes.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Ed]

I mean, Vegapunk could be Stephen Hawking.

[Luke]

Or Professor Frink or like Einstein himself has shown up. Lisa turns into Einstein in one of the Treehouse of Horrors. There's. There's plenty of options.

[Zach]

That's true. I don't. I don't doubt that. That's why I was thinking at the beginning, which way do I phrase the question? Are there enough Simpsons characters for One Piece characters?

[Ed]

Stephen Hawking on the Simpsons have a spring loaded like boxing glove.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, yeah. The Bop It.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jill Knight]

Now that's four kids.

[Zach]

That's Helmet. Stephen Hawking as Helmetpo. I know that's already been cast.

[Sam Leach]

I was thinking like, the Lupin. The Lupin bit there somewhere.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, the Fujiko.

[Zach]

The question I always. I've been forgetting to ask recently on this and although depends on your amount of fandom, but since I think you're pretty well into it, since you also have a One Piece podcast, who is your favorite pretty damn obscure One Piece character? Ooh, I always forget to ask this question, which maybe is appropriate.

[Luke]

I mean, part of me wants to say Beppo, but Beppo is not obscure, not replaceable, not forgettable. I'm going to just say I'm rolling through the list of names here because also, any One Piece character can suddenly be. I'm just going to say Dogra.

[Stephen Paul]

There you go.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Ed]

Dadan's assistant. Yeah, Assistant bandit.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You just did. You just did that. Yeah, it's like. Okay, that makes sense why that's in your head. Because I. That. Okay. Wow. But, yeah, I love all of Tadan.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. I can't. I can't remember now. Was he the little guy or was that Magura?

[Luke]

I believe he was a little guy. Was the big one.

[Stephen Paul]

The big one. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little one. The little guy's the one you remember.

[Ed]

I was just thinking about this, but if you remember this character from Logtown Filler, but the guy with the giant cocaine nostril in the cooking contest, you're.

[Zach]

Gonna have to be more specific. I don't remember. Oh, that one. I know. I got it. I got my Logtown Filler. As great as it might be. I don't remember. It actually is one of the better fillers, to be fair.

[Ed]

Or Daddy the father.

[Zach]

Daddy the father.

[Ed]

Yeah, don't we all?

[Sam Leach]

We're all my Crab Hand Gyro fans.

[Ed]

At Eric the Whirlwind.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Ed]

He's dead. Not me. Killed him.

[Zach]

Anyway, next question. What is your favorite story arc in one piece?

[Luke]

I mean, a lot of me likes Baratie. If we are going to, like, talk about, like, simpler villains, a simpler time, and like, Sanji kind of clearly defining who he is, I think it's great. I was. Yeah. Pre villain Sanji. I also loved Don Krieg as the guy who's using poison attacks, has a bunch of guns, has a bunch of armor, but then has also had all of his plans go to hell. And I'm glad that he shows up 20 years later.

[Ed]

And Zoro fights Mihawk in Brattier.

[Zach]

What?

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Never heard of it.

[Zach]

Yeah, Yeah, I don't remember that. Anyway, last question. What is your favorite opening or ending for the One Piece anime?

[Luke]

Ooh, that. That is a rough question. I mean, I.

[Zach]

They're all rough questions.

[Luke]

Yeah, they are. They are. Because there's so many options. I haven't seen all of them. I do. Like in this one I had just seen a few months ago. Like, I was kind of really impressed with the beginning of the egghead opening. Like the one us? I think so, yeah.

[Zach]

The one.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that. That.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Ed]

Like a very frenetic one. Yes.

[Luke]

Yeah. It's just like, beautiful animation. Very fluid, very colorful and poppy and coming from, like, the mid 2000s or late 2000s era. That's a nice amuse bouche, a nice palette cleanser of what's going to come.

[Ed]

And the ending themes have. There's a lot to choose from there. There's a lot of. Those are kind of the deep cuts really. It's a, it's very early 2000s J pop variety.

[Zach]

Well, well, thank you Luke, for, for going through those with us. For those keeping score at home, there's two One Piece podcast episodes in a row that a moose bouche was referenced. Let's see if we could get to three next week. But first, speaking of last week's episode, excellent segue, Zach. Yes, I agree. Is that we had an episode devoted to the One Piece flag as a revolutionary symbol with Dr. Raylene Bentley and golfer gear from TikTok fame. You should definitely give that a listen. Our friend of the show Mother's Basement or Jeff Theroux also did a really great video on that that is shorter. Ours is a more I guess discussion comprehensive kind of look at what's been going on. So yeah, please give that a listen. If you have not. Also want to mention on our end, if you haven't, please subscribe to us on [e-mail] one piece podc. You get AD free episodes of our entire archive. You get extended episodes, which includes us picking the episode title and image and sketches and a lot more on that end. Plus the entire force to watch four Kids series with Steve and Alex as they are forced to watch the 4 kids one piece dub. A lot more there. So please check us out. Plus, our Sticker of the month club was back for October. The vote is in and I believe it's. I believe it's done. It was between our boy Emmett skipping through the field and Robin in her. Was it Night of the what's the.

[Ed]

Night on Bald Mountain from Fantasia.

[Zach]

Fantasia. But Robin and the devolo I can't pronounce.

[Stephen Paul]

Demonium.

[Zach]

Devonium. Demonio. Devonio.

[Stephen Paul]

There you go.

[Zach]

I'm gonna bring this back here so you could join patreon.com one piece podcast for that sticker and you get to vote every month on the next one. I don't know what's gonna be in November, so join now if you want that. Okay. Before we go into the next segment. So news wise, the only thing I think of note, and I'm sure this will immediately this will have the shelf life of milk that expires on Wednesday. But Hiroyuki Nakano, who is the One Piece current One Piece editor in chief, which is they have a whole staff of One Piece editors and Ryuka Koike, who's the anime producer, will make an important announcement about the anime and the live action series on Wednesday, Tuesday, October 28th at 9:45pm I assume that is all jam time.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So is that like literally right after this comes out? I think.

[Stephen Paul]

I don't know. I'm trying to do the math. Yeah. This is, this is seemingly. Yeah, this is a Japan only thing. So it's possible that they might just be kind of like, at least as far as the live action stuff. They might just be sort of rehashing some of the Netflix announcements. But you know, anything, at least with the anime, that is because we don't.

[Ed]

Know anything about the live action other than it's coming out next year.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, well, I mean they've been, they've been showing off a lot of stuff. I don't know if we talked about all the, the posters that they've been.

[Ed]

Yeah, we talked about Crocus's newspaper that he was reading with the missing princess.

[Zach]

We did that.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Yeah. They've been putting out lots of screenshots and, and you know, promo materials and stuff lately, so they're definitely ramping up for it.

[Ed]

My nephew was excited.

[Stephen Paul]

He.

[Ed]

Laboon is one of his favorite characters.

[Stephen Paul]

Cool. Well, well, yeah, that's a.

[Zach]

Apparently he eats the crew for them never to be seen again, according to that poster. So he might want to change his opinion on, on Laboon whale.

[Stephen Paul]

A whale would eat you and everyone you care about.

[Zach]

True. What were we talking about? So, yeah, I believe that's Monday or Tuesday morning or Monday night, something like that. Getting my, my time zones confused. I don't have it in front of me. Anyway, you will see those announcements probably before you listen to this segment. So look online. I don't think there was anything else huge that came out. I will say though, Steven, we're aware that a new magazine came out and that's a bulky one. The One Piece magazine with the interviews with oda.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. And yeah, I, I would love to tell you all about it. However, listen to my tale of woe because I, I was recently away while you guys were doing your, your wonderful.

[Zach]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

I forgot to mention which, which was, which was a great, a great episode. I really enjoyed it. But I was away for a week. My, my wife was running in the Chicago Marathon, so we, we were in Chicago for a while. It was, it was, it was really fun. But because of that, it was timed out so that I was like, okay, well, I can order this new magazine, but it's, it's not going to come out until like two days before we leave. So if I order it now, it's just going to show up at our house unattended. Uh, and I didn't want to deal with that or, or have to worry about that. So I was like, okay, I'll order it when I get back. And then as soon as I got back, it was sold out on Amazon Japan. In fact, I will check right now. I believe it is still unavailable on the normal. It's only on like the marketplace or whatever.

[Zach]

So I wonder.

[Ed]

I wonder if it's available if I go to the Kino near my house.

[Zach]

So I was gonna say maybe. I think. I think there was a Japanese fan, might be one piece Kun or someone else that we are like adjacent to the show or, you know, that Greg knows that mentioned. I think that there are groups of people hoarding them, like purposely buying them to resell them to. To bring up the price for that for whatever. Anyway, that's in the future. Yeah, I, I think I heard about that. It was. Would have probably been too late for me to have warned you about that because I think it was more recently because I think he was annoyed. Yeah, I think happen.

[Stephen Paul]

I do believe. I can't recall because this would have been like a week or two ago, but I do believe I saw something like on the. The official Twitter account or whatever that was like, okay, we're going to make a reprint for whatever date. So it might not be until, you know, first week of November or whatever.

[Zach]

So I know that happened with the last magazine. Yeah, with a special. The fan letters.

[Stephen Paul]

Right.

[Zach]

Because the same thing happened and they did make a reprint. And I think as of now, it probably is more widely available. I don't know than it was at least.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I mean, they, they put the, they put the special promo cards in them too, for, for the. The card.

[Zach]

Yeah, that'll do it, actually.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, exactly.

[Zach]

That might be the reason. Yeah, that might be the reasoning behind.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I will get one eventually.

[Zach]

But we also have at least another two weeks before the next break, minimum. So that gives us maybe.

[Ed]

Hopefully we'll see because there is a chapter next week. Right.

[Zach]

We know there's a chapter next.

[Stephen Paul]

Unless it's another surprise drop from the, from the lineup. But yes, there. It was not announced that there would be a break next week, so we should have a chapter.

[Zach]

Right.

[Stephen Paul]

And. And we will have a new volume too soon.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah. Okay. So we have a ton to talk about.

[Ed]

Sorry, I was just looking at the Shonen Jump app on my phone. New chapter in seven days.

[Zach]

Seven days. Okay. That is a week also. What? I'll get this straight at some point. Let's Talk about the Manga Recap let's talk about the manga in our manga recap because that's how we do it. And be right back.

[Stephen Paul]

Sounds good.

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[Stephen Paul]

I guess there was no question mark there.

[Zach]

Promise. Promise.

[Ed]

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[Zach]

Yeah, we could use all those takes. You can read this one@shonenjump, viz.com or mangaplus. Shueisha Co JP Ed what do you want to do first?

[Ed]

Let's do ODA's author comment this week.

[Zach]

Uh oh right, yeah.

[Ed]

So this is what ODA has to say this week. Old fish Head. I can't compare the awesomeness of Kiss or Die on Netflix to anything else. It's the pinnacle of human achievement. Jeez.

[Stephen Paul]

Wow.

[Ed]

So then when you google it, this is what it tells you. Synopsis is the Japanese series features comedians who are thrown into a melodramatic improv game where they must resist the seductive advances of actresses. If they give in to a cheap kiss, they are eliminated from the game. All the while, a panel of commentators watches and provides commentary.

[Zach]

Well, it's a Japanese show.

[Ed]

The show is an unusual mix of a scripted drama and improv game show. It is based on a long running segment called Kiss Gaman from the Japanese variety program God Tongue. I'm actually kind of surprised that Downtown is not involved in this. It's actually kind of sounds like Documental, which is the series where comedians have to make each other laugh and if you laugh, you're out of the game.

[Zach]

That sounds much funnier. But this also does sound very up oda's alley. If I know anything about oda, which I don't. Any other comments on that or you want to go to the COVID page?

[Ed]

I think we can move on.

[Jill Knight]

We got this here.

[Stephen Paul]

What do we got?

[Ed]

Yeah, what do we got for chapter 1163. Promise.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ed]

Read a request. Luffy doing Parkour all over town with White gibbons by Toshika Zoo. I wonder if they have gibbons at the Toshika Zoo.

[Zach]

Is that a thing or is that a person's name?

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah, no, I actually, I saw someone on another discord. It was like, oh, that's so. That's so sweet. The request came from a zoo. And I was like, oh no. This is just. This is just a person's, you know, pen name that they write. They've. They've done these requests before.

[Zach]

Yeah, they did the Bonnie eating with the wolves one eating contest with them. I'm just like looking this up right now.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, okay. I was like, damn, that's really good memories.

[Zach]

Yeah, I just. Yeah. How do you not remember that? That's from chapter 1102.

[Jill Knight]

This is why I hate trivia.

[Ed]

Yeah. I was looking at Luffy's shirt here. It said there's a monkey face and it says Cool monkey.

[Luke]

Cool.

[Ed]

I don't. I don't.

[Zach]

What's the pun there? Yeah, cool.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, the monkey's got the same brand cap on.

[Zach]

Okay, so here's a.

[Ed]

One monkey has a. Yeah, they're. They're flying around town with caps on, like a kaku or something.

[Zach]

We could figure this out here because this is what we got to get to the bottom of. What onomatopoeia noise do monkeys make in Japanese? In Japanese, Ookikul. Is that a thing?

[Stephen Paul]

I doubt it.

[Zach]

Is there some. Is there another? I'm sure there's a pun here. That's the thing.

[Ed]

Every time I think of. Every think of parkour I hear about parkour. I think of the parkour scene from the office.

[Zach]

I was going to say, of course.

[Ed]

Parkour is going from point A to point B in the most efficient way possible. As long as point A is delusion and point B is the hospital.

[Zach]

It feels like a 20 year old reference almost.

[Luke]

The parkour thing is, is there something maybe because it is specifically a white gibbon. That could be part of the pun.

[Stephen Paul]

Well, yeah, in Japanese it's just white monkey. But in. In looking it up to be like, ok, there is that like a specific thing. And apparently the only kind of like white furred, you know, apes like that are gibbons, apparently. And. And it is also like another one of those sort of legendary Asian animals. Like the. The white monkey is kind of like, you know, I don't know what, what else to compare it to, but sort of like the. The Kirin or some of those other Fantasies. Right, right, right. There's like, you know, it occupies a certain space in, like, folklore as well.

[Zach]

But why are they cool?

[Ed]

Or wasn't it the yellow monkey that was one of Momotaro's companions?

[Stephen Paul]

I don't think it was yellow. I think it's just a monkey.

[Zach]

That's a generalized monkey.

[Ed]

Also, the yellow. Yellow monkey is an admiral in one piece, but it was also a J rock band from the late 90s.

[Jill Knight]

He's also in Dragon Ball Z.

[Zach]

They do start as white monkeys or. You know what. No, no. Any other thoughts on the. On the.

[Ed]

They all look like they're having fun.

[Zach]

I do want to just say I think I saw someone who has. Who? I don't know. It's probably a newer fan. Like, oh, yes, now we finally get a new cover story. I'm like, oh, no. You don't know how this works. This is another year of these at least. This is gonna be a long time. Yeah, I'll say. If there's, like, less than six months of these, I'd be pretty shocked. Yeah, yeah. Let's start the chapter, Ed.

[Ed]

Sure. So we start back with Saint Saturn, who has gotten reversed. And Marines in the foreground are like, st. Saturn.

[Zach]

Is he reversed or how.

[Stephen Paul]

What verb would you possess?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jill Knight]

Parasite. Like those fucking.

[Ed]

Because when you get. When you get reversed, you go sort of feral.

[Zach]

Well, he's not reversed. Right. He's just.

[Stephen Paul]

No.

[Ed]

Possessed by emu.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Claimed. Whatever you want to call it.

[Zach]

Claimed.

[Ed]

Saturn's claws are. They got those swirls on them and they're. They look very sinister. And I guess this is Saturn emu saying nuisances. And his leg tentacles are sort of like turning black and rearing up. And the rain.

[Zach]

So it's like the ink is actually coming up. Like, you need extra spikes. Is that what you're saying?

[Stephen Paul]

I didn't even really. I didn't really notice what. Yeah. When doing the chapter before. I didn't really realize that was what.

[Ed]

Yeah, they kind of look like flamingos.

[Jill Knight]

He's, like, covering it in, like, a goop.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed]

He's joining the goop troop.

[Zach]

I don't think that's what that is. Didn't these. Didn't. Did Saturn have this design over his legs now? I have to go back.

[Stephen Paul]

I thought he did. Yeah.

[Zach]

That's what I thought as well. I thought it's more like. It's almost like a gear four thing where, like, the design is, like, coming off of it and turning into it.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Also, why do you need that many tentacles. Whatever you want.

[Ed]

And it looks like Saturn starts attacking the marines who are gawking at him. Ah. Whoa. And then other bystanders are yelling too.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, those bystanders.

[Ed]

Yeah. Or is that a. Is that one of Roger's pirates?

[Jill Knight]

Maybe.

[Ed]

I'm not sure who that is, but the hat just.

[Stephen Paul]

Rand.

[Jill Knight]

I think these are. Yeah, Randos. They've been here before, but I don't think they're part of any main crew.

[Ed]

Yeah. And this random piracy.

[Zach]

Great designs, though. I like these.

[Ed]

Why is it attacking the Navy? Whose side is it on? And it's. And it sort of yells, nobody's side.

[Zach]

No, I think that's. So correct me wrong. Yeah, he's answering his own question.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Zach]

Sorry, Steven.

[Jill Knight]

I love this panel.

[Zach]

It's really good.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. With the chests.

[Zach]

I do want to say, like, what are the movements that. Saturn. Emu. I don't know what we want to call it. Emu here. What is it like a. Like an octopus movement? Because why are they, like, coming up the.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, they're very wiggly.

[Zach]

Yeah. I can't tell what's happening. Yeah, Specifically there.

[Sam Leach]

But like, Saturn, when he's in his, like, full crab mode, his. His legs are, like, noticeably. A lot more bendy and less.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Sam Leach]

Insect, like.

[Stephen Paul]

Right, right.

[Sam Leach]

And.

[Stephen Paul]

And now it's like. It's. It's almost like doing the. What was it. What was Morius Devil Tales. Well, I was gonna say like, the Morius thing where. Where he was, like, controlling Aura's body with the shadow. It's. It's sort of like the. Yeah. Emu is just sort of contorting Saturn's, you know, appendages.

[Ed]

Almost like Gunko's arrows, kinda.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

You know, whatever. Whatever. Does the job.

[Sam Leach]

Like the. The Devil Tales when Cobra dies.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes, yes.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Okay.

[Zach]

I might have been gunk going this whole time with Steven. Yes, Steven.

[Stephen Paul]

All right, so. Yes. So then we see a Navy officer who's shouting, all units withdraw. Keep your distance. And then we, you know, we get a wide shot of the. The titular God Valley as the. The sounds of chaos and screaming and, you know, everybody's shouting, keep your distance. Ah. Don't attack.

[Jill Knight]

Secure an escape route.

[Stephen Paul]

And then we see Roger, who is shouting at seeming. I thought it was his crew at first, but then it turns out it's just some other random group where he's. He's saying, hey, get up, guys. And this. This guy is like, ow, it hurts. But it's so fascinating. He's like, what are you talking about? Can't believe what it did to my crew, which at. At first, I didn't really like. My first time through the chapter, I. I just kind of glossed over this of like, okay, whatever. But then, you know, once. Once I got to the end of the chapter and I. I went back to revise it, then I. I realized that this is probably, you know, meant a. A foreshadowing to the domi reversi that. That we will see by the end. And so Roger says to Gabon, who's standing there, give these guys back up, take some treasure, and split. Which is kind of odd. It sounds like he's giving him two conflicting orders there, but, you know, whatever. And Gabon's like, not again. You better not get yourself in trouble. Meanwhile, Garp is accosting another random marine. He's like, what's going on here? What is that monster? And he's like, I don't know. St. Saturn just started transforming before our eyes as he's like, blub, blub, blub, blubb. As Garp is manhandling him, and he's like. Five elders, huh? Never seen them before. Looks about right for the kind of freak who'd sit atop those maggots. Referring to the celestial dragons, of course. And a bunch of marines are freaking out and kind of silently going, vice Admiral Garp, ixnay on the Andersleigh.

[Zach]

Yeah, she wrote. She wrote the Harry Potter series, and she's right over there.

[Sam Leach]

Do they have pig Latin in Japanese?

[Stephen Paul]

No, they don't. Yeah. And in fact, this was. This is kind of funny because I was. I was thinking when I was working on this that, like, there. There was like a. A minor. A minor viral post from like, a week or two ago. I think it was for the jujutsu Kaisen spin off or something, where, like, the translator had used the phrase, like, give up the ghost or something.

[Zach]

Yeah, I saw.

[Stephen Paul]

And y. Yeah. And the person in the post was like, what ghost? What are they talking about? Why does this make any sense? And, you know, I assume, you know, maybe. Maybe esl. Maybe it's not a native language speaker. But.

[Zach]

Sorry, can I cut in here? Is that I am positive that there was a whole discussion on our main discord about pig Latin and explaining this.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, yeah, Just saying.

[Ed]

Ick. Stay on the Anderslay was my favorite Offspring album.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, no, it was a good one. And, yeah, so I was like, oh, boy, the kids are gonna love this one. But, you know, I. I actually, I was looking up to, like, earlier today when I. When. When People were talking about it and I was like, I wonder where that came from. Or like, why. Why is this a popularized thing? And apparently it was a big deal in the. Well, no, in the Three Stooges. Apparently they used to do it a lot, so.

[Zach]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Stephen Paul]

So that's a good. Yeah.

[Zach]

Did. Were Three Stooges after Looney Tunes? Like, I'm trying to. No, the Three Stooges were like, concurrent.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, they were concurrent.

[Ed]

They were theatrical shorts.

[Zach]

I know, Ixnay very specifically. I. Because I haven't really watched Three Stooges that much, but I've watched a lot of Looney Tunes in my day. When I went back in those days, Cartoon Network reran them. Um, but yeah, no, I, I. The ixnay like, also don't say nicks, I guess a lot.

[Stephen Paul]

But yeah, yeah, well, you know that, but that's like that, that's the format.

[Zach]

No, you're right.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. For that sort of thing. Your, your, your garden variety, earlier 20th century American slang. Moving on from that, we get to see Rocks now facing off against the. The Saturn Emu abomination. And he says, hey, you king of the bilge rats, you're here to kill me, aren't you? And then Emu says, so it was the Davy Jones. And Rox is like, you got the wrong guy. I've never even met him. Which is an interesting. You know, how. Does, how is Emu identifying Rocks as such? That's a very, A very interesting question. And Rocks continues, however, promises are meant to be kept. And Emu says, which is exactly why thy kind must be erased from history. And so maybe I'm like, is he. Do you think he's referring to what he said in Mary Joa when he was there?

[Zach]

I have to look back at what he said. That was like. Well, he said he.

[Stephen Paul]

Right, yeah, he said he, he would come back here. And I wonder if, like, here could be, you know, metaphorically speaking to Emu or.

[Zach]

Or.

[Stephen Paul]

Or what? You know, obviously there's, there's some information here that we are not privy to about, you know, what Rocks knows and everything. And so am I doing the next one too?

[Zach]

Yeah. Yes.

[Ed]

Okay.

[Zach]

Sorry.

[Stephen Paul]

All right. And so Emu continues. My world is still incomplete and swings in another appendage, another spidery talon, and Rocks slices through it. Very cool action pose here as he says, it ain't your world. And the onlookers are shocked. The navy here is. Look at Rocks. He dares attack Saint Saturn. Should we offer help, Rear Admiral? And this guy who's clearly in over his head is like I, I don't. And so Garp, the man of initiative steps in and he says of course we're helping out. Move it. And they're all like, oh, Vice Admiral Garp. And as they see the, the look of grim intent on his face, they're like oh wait a second. Helping out. Which side? Which is a great. That, that was fun to kind of.

[Ed]

Which side is he on?

[Jill Knight]

I love Garp in this. He no one invited him. He just showed up on his own and he's just picking fights with everyone regardless, just whoever he thinks looks funny.

[Zach]

Yeah, I so like Garp is.

[Ed]

I mean Saturn looks funny, but not haha funny.

[Zach]

No, he doesn't actually.

[Jill Knight]

It's his park. His kid was at the party. So basically he went to like, you know.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

He crashed the party or actually probably partakes in the party a lot more than his kid. Yeah. We'll talk more about Garp at the end. I'll save it.

[Stephen Paul]

Okay. Yeah, but that's right, he was, he only is here because he heard that Roger was, was showing up.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

And was not assigned to do it. And so yeah. Some, some marines are shooting their guns. The pirates are making off with the treasure. Stop them. Those are world class valuables. And then you see this little kind of rogues gallery of pirates. Looks like the pirates are like fighting. They're fighting each other over the treasure chest. This guy has like a, like a dolly cart and he's.

[Zach]

Oh my God, I love this design.

[Ed]

This guy's wearing.

[Stephen Paul]

His Popeye shirt.

[Ed]

He's the prison issued tank top.

[Zach]

He's the captain. What's his name? The Skipper from.

[Stephen Paul]

The Skipper. Yeah.

[Zach]

From Gilligan's Island.

[Ed]

Sorry, little buddy.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. And then these guys are having this like Mad Max, you know, fight over the, the cargo with the treasure chest.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Sam Leach]

And the one guy on the cart.

[Zach]

Like it's a car that is I think one of Roger's crew. Right. That's the giant on Roger's crew or something that he looks super. Which one familiar? The one, the one with the giant mace. That guy or. No, maybe not. Maybe he just looks like a lot of other. Okay.

[Stephen Paul]

I mean if he's a giant that he's like standing way behind. It's a, it's a forced. It's a perspective trick of the eyes.

[Zach]

It's one piece. Everyone's like 20 foot tall. You know, like that's just.

[Stephen Paul]

And meanwhile we go elsewhere, you know, around the valley and we see a figure. It's kind of Hard to tell in this panel, but this is Captain John and he is taking a swig of his bottle. And he says it's wild out there, ready to start hauling. And they're like just say the word, Captain John. And as he. He wipes his mouth, he says so long rocks, pirates. So yes, the. The. The invincible crew is already. The. The dream team is already falling apart here. Meanwhile, Dragon, he's got. Yeah, Dragon, he has Shanks and he's saying what's happening over there? I hear screaming as Shanks screams. No, he's just going. And he. He sees. He spies through the trees. There is a navy ship. He's near the. He's near the shoreline. So they'll be able to protect the child. But as he.

[Ed]

They can't even protect themselves. You serious?

[Stephen Paul]

As. As he runs for it, suddenly something tugs him up into the air backwards.

[Zach]

Huh?

[Ed]

Yoink.

[Zach]

Luke.

[Luke]

Yeah. So we see him getting pulled by a force and we cut the other pirates like ah, come back. Treasure chests. We have Gabon there. All the meddlers reacting to something is being pulled away from us. And then we cut to Captain John saying big Eater, come to me, my treasures. And we see all the treasures coming to him because this is I think the first time that we get revealed that he is the previous owner of the Cheeky cheeky. No. Me.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Ed]

Watch out for that idiot.

[Sam Leach]

Saw people speculating on this because he did have like a metal arm a few chapters ago.

[Jill Knight]

I think we talked about this on the chapter I was on. Yeah, that was a very smart. Whoever called that.

[Zach]

Yeah, Raptured. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

[Luke]

I. I just feel sorry for whoever got their collectible like Pipe taken away from there in that massive mix of various treasure.

[Zach]

The pot.

[Jill Knight]

Oh my. US Coins.

[Sam Leach]

No, no. Dragon gets that Pipe and he gives it to Sabo and it's. It's like a passed on heirloom.

[Zach]

There's also one screw there. I needed that screw.

[Luke]

It's load bearing. And so then we cut to the valley as more of the people are having their things taken. That's Captain John's magnet. Magnet power. There's a powerful pole coming from the southeast entrance to the valley. And we cut back to Roger. Move it. Let him figure that out. Roger. And that's when we cut over to Gansui. Stupid John. And he is using his power, which I don't think we've seen too clearly right now. Skysnake Red cannon. And that is taking John by surprise.

[Zach]

Yeah, Steven, I'll let you.

[Stephen Paul]

Or yeah, also using Boogers Yeah, we don't.

[Ed]

Mr. PI's power.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

We don't have a confirmation because nobody mentions. I mean, obviously they do mention Captain John having the magnet power, but. Yes, this does absolutely look like Mr. Fives. Was it the bomb. Bomb fruit.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

This.

[Stephen Paul]

Which I.

[Zach]

This was my whooping. Like, this was awesome cameo here to see. Yeah, go ahead.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah. If it. If it's like a Red, does that mean, like, is what it gonna explain that? Like, he. He's picking his nose way harder, so it's actually, like, bloody or something. Is that why red can.

[Luke]

It's allergy season. No one had to.

[Zach]

Yeah, I was gonna say.

[Jill Knight]

There you go.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

His power depends on the time of year, actually.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's right. It's always allergy season in God Valley.

[Stephen Paul]

I. I do like the. The use of. Of, you know, the reuse of. Of fruits, but especially for. For John. I feel like it's such a good match for his. Because we know that his personality is like. He's the treasure. He's the. He was the buggy before Buggy. He was the guy who was obsessed with treasure. So it is a perfect match. That.

[Ed]

Isn't that what Buggy was looking for initially, Captain Sean?

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, Captain.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think it was treasure.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, the treasure.

[Jill Knight]

And Luffy gave him the treasure map armband.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Right.

[Luke]

It was. It was really weird watching like. Or reading Captain Jones appearance at the same time as we were covering Thriller Bark last year, just kind of being like the.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Any of these characters can be really big because you also see Gonzui as one of those zombies on the island. And.

[Ed]

Isn'T Gonzoe the one who's like a half rhinoceros or something?

[Stephen Paul]

I think.

[Zach]

I think so. He still is. Or.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Either way, I thought he was the.

[Stephen Paul]

General zombie, where it was mostly just him. Like, he.

[Zach]

You might be right. You might be right.

[Luke]

He has, like, elephant legs, but the body's weird because it's, like, kind of off model.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Hog pack. Am I right, Jill?

[Jill Knight]

As. As we go back to a shot of God Valley with a giant explosion, a kaboom as people are screaming. And Captain John there got blasted. Captain John as treasure and other various metals go flying. And Dragon also goes flying, holding baby shanks securely in his arms.

[Zach]

Oof.

[Jill Knight]

And then Shiki appears. God, I just watched Strong World. I love Shiki.

[Zach]

He's incredible. He's.

[Jill Knight]

I've never seen the English dub. I watched him in the English dub the first time.

[Zach]

Holy shit, man.

[Jill Knight]

What a surprise.

[Zach]

That was yeah, you can't beat that. Reasons. Yeah, yeah.

[Jill Knight]

As he hobbles along going Konsui, why did you shoot John? As he replies. Did you really think he's gonna split that treasure with us? I love the rocks pirates, man. They just hate each other all so much. Each of those chests is worth at least a billion berries a bill. A buh buh buh bill as it goes. Anyone want to keep it all to himself?

[Ed]

He does say we need Carl Sagan here to explain the difference between billions and billions from millions. Billions and billions of stars.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Jill Knight]

Well, I'm Jillian, so I might.

[Zach]

I believe that's a Google of. For those who don't know. That is where Google originally came from. They stole it from Carl Sagan and misspelled it. Please go ahead.

[Jill Knight]

Sorry I didn't catch this the first time I read this. But now I see that Gonzui is loading up to shoot Shiki to betray him in turn. I don't see him picking his nose though. So I'm not sure where his bullets are coming from. Yeah, maybe he's less disgusting.

[Zach]

Maybe he's like taking a bit of his skin or something. Like.

[Jill Knight]

I don't know what's worse to be honest. Actually it's all kind of horrible.

[Zach]

Or you take something out of his hair or like. Like what else can you take out of your. I mean there's.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. What the fingernail?

[Zach]

Fingernail.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah. You could just. Oh God.

[Jill Knight]

There's a lot of many horrible options. Really. They all kind of suck to be honest.

[Zach]

But they're all funny.

[Jill Knight]

That's true. As we then move over to the Navy as a train here of marines are holding on to garbage.

[Zach]

This is a funny. Hey look. It's that kid from. Hey, Arnold. They're hanging on the one with the. The butternut. Gerald.

[Jill Knight]

Thank you. Goes up. You can't. Vice Admiral. That's the supreme authority of the government up there. As carpet shows what that vermin. Which incredible as they're all just screaming as he just runs into battle. Very luffy. Like here you can see where he gets it as. Then we get back to a shot of the fight against emu and Saturn as we get Dragon who's newly. Wait, no. His name is Kaido. I'm sorry. As Kaido Dragon is here.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, Dragon.

[Sam Leach]

Somewhere else in the scene.

[Zach]

Kaido Dragon. Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Going.

[Jill Knight]

Let me try two rocks.

[Zach]

You skipped ahead to the joke, Jill.

[Jill Knight]

As you know Big Mom. Suddenly her voice arrives. Damn it. Kaido. Wait right there. As she's coming along behind Him. And I guess I'll channel my Big Sister energy. I'm gonna kill you. And then I'll channel my three idiot little brother.

[Zach]

Her name was Big Sister at this time, by the way.

[Jill Knight]

What are you jealous? Check this out.

[Ed]

As he then Kaido flies away on his skateboard.

[Zach]

Yeah. Steve's image from the last chapters two weeks ago is spot on. Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

Fantastic.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

As everyone starts charging their attacks. Big Mom's pulling back. Kaido's charging Malazer. And then there's Whitebeard just, you know, pulling back as well. We've got Rockstuna. Yeah. Cry here. Meanwhile, you know, they're flirting. Of course. Roger. That's my quarry, Garp. As Garp pulls back. Galaxy.

[Zach]

I can't flirt.

[Jill Knight]

Roger, we're busy.

[Zach]

Roger. Can we do this later? Sorry I interrupted the moment.

[Jill Knight]

That's okay. Probably what happened in real life as. As they. This incredible, incredible two page spread here as emu's in the middle. Just kind of getting little bits blasted everywhere as Garp here. Impact punch. Roger here with a divine departure. Which is still a very curious name for this attack, to be honest. Rocks Wild pose, actually, as he shouts out Pandemonium. Shout out to Pandemonium. The Final Fantasy 14 raid series.

[Zach]

Maybe it's a Panda man reference. Pandemonium. No, Steve.

[Jill Knight]

That's an incredible theory that I'm gonna go wild with someday.

[Zach]

Is Rock's Panda Man's dad.

[Stephen Paul]

I mean, he does have two tone hair. So teach lives two lives.

[Jill Knight]

The other one is at Panda man.

[Zach]

But there are more attacks. Yeah. I'm sorry, please continue.

[Jill Knight]

As. As Whitebeard here hits. Hits the. Shatters the walls or shatters the.

[Zach]

Shatters existence.

[Jill Knight]

Shatters everything with a chalk. Hakua.

[Zach]

Which is that something Steven, then.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, this is a bit of a weird one. Of course. And like I'm thinking to myself, like why. Why do I have to like come up with new Whitebeard attacks in 2025? Yeah.

[Zach]

And this is the year 2025.

[Jill Knight]

Why didn't he pull this out before?

[Stephen Paul]

Because he. Yeah, it doesn't really seem to match any of the.

[Zach]

Did Whitebeard have attack names? Like, I can't even remember any of them.

[Stephen Paul]

Not really.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's too old. You guys remember Sea Quake?

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah.

[Sam Leach]

I don't remember Earthquake.

[Zach]

The name of his attack is Earthquake.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's extremely.

[Sam Leach]

What about like I'm gonna. I'm gonna break your helmet with my hand and then put an earthquake in your brain.

[Zach]

What about Gum? Gum Collapse?

[Jill Knight]

Does he say that every Time.

[Zach]

Yeah, sorry, that was from the German dub, actually. Yeah, go. Go ahead.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, so. So like the. Yeah, Hakua was the name of the. The attack in Japanese. And it was. It was a weird one, like the kanji. So it was kanji, and then it was pronounced Hakua. And the. The kanji did not seem to match. Like, I could not find any direct reference to it. It's possible that it could be like a play on something where it's like. Oh, if you. If you recognize what the original thing was, you might notice it, but I. I couldn't tell, but it was some. It was something like, like break, you know, like vacuum or. Or Scott or air. And then the ah. At the end, it was. It's not even really a. A kanji that has a meaning. It's. It's usually more for the sound, but it was. It was very clear that it was meant to be. Like, you're supposed to say it. Hakua. It's not like a, Like, Like a thing with a specific meaning. Uh, but hakua is also a homophone for chalk, like the. The material, chalk. And so I was like, oh, that's kind of funny that it. That is also like a. A partial. Like, not really a rhyme, but, you know, it's a similar sound with the. With the. The homophone of the word in. In English. So. So I was like, okay, I'll just throw that in there. Maybe the chalk, you know, with white. White beard chalk. You know, maybe there's. Maybe there's a bit of a connection there that Oda was going for. But mostly I think it's just. It's kind of like a thing that has a cool sounding name.

[Sam Leach]

There was a Zorro attack in a recent anime episode that, like, this is like, maybe it's close to this or.

[Zach]

Because.

[Sam Leach]

Because, like, this is, like, itching. Something in my brain, it made me think of.

[Zach]

You might want to get that checked out, Sam.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, it made me think of Kaido's Thunderbolt.

[Sam Leach]

It's like a Buddhist.

[Zach]

Some Buddhist thing. Yeah, it is kind of thunder. Bagua. Bagua. Hakwa. Hakua.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, guys, back up. Same thing.

[Luke]

I have.

[Sam Leach]

I have an episode title, Locked and Loaded here.

[Zach]

That is not how you introduce episodes. That's not how we do it.

[Sam Leach]

I'm just trying to put the words on that thing into the. Into the.

[Zach]

Do I even want to write that down? No, I don't. Yeah, no, I don't even think Patriot.

[Sam Leach]

I'm just saying patriotic fans. I'm just. I'M just saying there's. There's. There's millions of dollars of potential there on that thing.

[Zach]

I'm more. I'm more.

[Stephen Paul]

That was actually better. That was better. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. You know what? Just despite Sam gonna write that one down.

[Luke]

Chakua Hakua.

[Zach]

I don't like any of these.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Not how you do episode 20. Yeah. Anyway, you were halfway through going through the attacks on this page.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah. So after Whitebeard's incomprehensible attack name, we go to Big mom who uses her Ikoku sovereignty. We have seen that one before.

[Sam Leach]

Classic.

[Jill Knight]

And then of course, the classic here. We all know this attack. Kaido with the big blast and just shouting dragon.

[Zach]

Unbelievable. That's the funniest fucking thing.

[Jill Knight]

Okay. Yeah, this makes up for him not being a fish.

[Zach]

This page is Oda in a nutshell. I'm going to do something that looks awesome and also put in the most ridiculous joke in it. That is that played the same way in Japanese. I'm assuming it does.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Sam Leach]

It was just like.

[Luke]

Does that.

[Sam Leach]

Does that like read funny in Japanese?

[Stephen Paul]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. No, it was definitely a joke.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's very. I got to say, what Oda has done with Kaido in this flashback is better than anything he did with Kaido in his own story.

[Jill Knight]

He's just a shitty little brother.

[Zach]

Like, it's really funny. It's really funny.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, it's. It's definitely kind of rounding the other side. Because, you know, the first times we saw Kaido was like, oh, he. He gets drunk and he acts goofy. And then we barely saw any of that in like Onigashima. So this is kind of rounding that out into, you know, a more fully fleshed out.

[Zach]

He's also like kind of an idiot, which is great, I think, which makes sense.

[Ed]

Kaido is kind of Chuny.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. I mean, yes, this is definitely the teenage Kaido version.

[Zach]

That was it for that page. So I think we talked about recently, when's the last time we had a two page spread that it was just one panel. Here's one. I think the one before this was the Five Elders introduction. It probably.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I don't think we have one between.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. So big moment here. A lot of big Punchies. This is bigpunchies.com, which we own the domain and you should visit it. It just goes to clips of big punches.

[Stephen Paul]

Not a big moment, though. She's pretty small in that.

[Zach]

Did you say moment?

[Stephen Paul]

Yes, I did.

[Zach]

On the next page, we see IMU mid incineration here I look like on.

[Jill Knight]

Mondays driving to work. Those are my.

[Zach]

That's what I look like every morning at 6am If I'm lucky. And yeah, there you get a close up in emu's eyes who's like, you might wonder what brought me here today, but get a whole wonder your monologue here. And we see him explode. Like what is quite. What is happening to him here?

[Ed]

It's just like bolts of hockey coming off.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's hockey explosion. So I think. But he's also like disintegrating from the top of Saturn simultaneously. It looks like. Like it's. I don't know if you guys have.

[Ed]

He's disappearing like a fart in the wind.

[Sam Leach]

Living flame or.

[Zach]

Yeah, flame.

[Jill Knight]

Like a shout out. Like wispy.

[Luke]

Yeah, implosion. An emu plosion.

[Zach]

That is. That's like. You see, that's how you pitch them.

[Ed]

And.

[Zach]

And you see the explosive part of that emanating from. From God Valley itself here.

[Ed]

There's a doom.

[Zach]

A doom. There's a Zadoom and a lot of people going Super Saiyan in there. And you have a lot of the regular Marine folks passing out here from this amount of conquerors Hockey here. Then you have random Pirate A, B, C and D. I'm sorry, A, B and C. And also Rayleigh holding Shacky. So this is presumably members of the Roger Pirates who probably have really ridiculous names that I don't know offhand. And I apologize to fans of Lime Juice. Right, that's the name.

[Sam Leach]

That's a. That's a red haired pirate.

[Zach]

Bonk Punch.

[Luke]

Snake Juice.

[Zach]

Snake was the other one Snake Shoes. Is that Roger or is that.

[Sam Leach]

Oh no, no, you're thinking of Building Snake.

[Stephen Paul]

Building Snake.

[Sam Leach]

Building Snake, Lime Juice, Bonk Punch and.

[Ed]

Monster Snake Juice is from Parks and Rec.

[Jill Knight]

We can't forget Hong though.

[Zach]

There goes Hongo.

[Sam Leach]

Can't forget Hong Rockstar.

[Jill Knight]

Of course. My God. My man.

[Zach]

That's Shanks.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes. And none of those guys are in this.

[Sam Leach]

Everybody we just named is Shanks.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Well we have. Who I have to assume is Kobe's father because he's wearing his glasses the same way. That's how that works, right? You wear your glasses the same way. You must be related.

[Sam Leach]

He does look like. Like Kobe and Drake's son.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, he's. He's Tom and Eggy's father.

[Zach]

And also a little bit of Nolan's the Cricket.

[Jill Knight]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed]

He's got a bit of the chestnut hair.

[Zach]

He does.

[Stephen Paul]

He's. He's Tom and I. He's Onion's father from Usop's village.

[Jill Knight]

It's all connected. Also, this one guy has wings. I know that's come up before, but.

[Sam Leach]

Like a bat wing.

[Zach]

Yeah. There's a Magellan. Magellan wings.

[Stephen Paul]

Or it's his backpack.

[Zach]

Or it's his backpack. Yeah. Could also be his backpack.

[Jill Knight]

That'd be cute.

[Zach]

Well, like Shaky has little wings on her lapel. The collar. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for. Anyway, everyone's like, what's going on there? Armageddon or something. Huh? Where's Bruce? Fellas, not the time. Not the time. Bonk snake.

[Jill Knight]

That's just a couple. Actually. You're just shipping it.

[Zach]

Finally, the bong punch building snake couple here. Okay, not the time. Bong snake. As he says. This is Rayleigh saying, look at all the chests. Pick them up. And they. They all laugh. Really? Always got his eye on the prize. Hey, that one. Hey. What a fox over there. Huh? And someone probably should bonk punch him over the head. Or me for making that joke. Never forget a pirate's true calling. They laugh. Oh, what a fun time we're having. And meanwhile, dragon descends from being magnetically pulled to the center of the island, saying, this is all insane. At least I need to save the. The. Wait a second. Was Trafalgar Law here and did he switch my baby with a log?

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, Shanks is using his Naruto substitution jutsu here. Yeah.

[Zach]

By the way, the. The better reference. The better reference to make here would be a 13 year old one piece podcast reference to Trafalgar Law. Yes. As we all remember the return here. Anyway, he's like, what? Which I assume is done in the most ridiculous way possible and in true baby fashion. Baby Shanks is here and he's after the things he's not supposed to touch and put in his mouth. No, someone should have childproofed that. What are they doing on God Valley that they're not childproofing their treasure chest?

[Ed]

Oh, shiny.

[Luke]

It's a very special episode.

[Zach]

Me. And by the way, so is he saying the dada is in the equivalent of daddy or is he saying dada?

[Stephen Paul]

No, he's just.

[Zach]

He's just. He's.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, he's. He's hoofing it.

[Ed]

He's.

[Stephen Paul]

He's. Yeah, he's. He's a baby on a mission right now. So he's just.

[Zach]

Two misconceptions about babies I wish to dispel here. One, they are powerful and could claw your eyes out at any moment to when they are determined they hoof it. They're good hoofers. Yeah. But here goes. Baby Shanks. Especially Baby Shanks, who I assume has conquerors hockey. And that's why he didn't pass out here. Power scale Baby Shanks out there, listeners. Yeah.

[Ed]

Anyway, he's going to climb in the chest for safety, like Indiana Jones in the.

[Zach]

Yes. And that is.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, perfect.

[Stephen Paul]

But. But literally, that is what he's going to do.

[Zach]

And also, this is how we find out. This is. We know now how Shanks got in the treasure chest. No one put him in there. He just saw some shiny things and it accidentally closed on him.

[Jill Knight]

How did this happen with Dragon? How did he lose.

[Sam Leach]

What if this isn't the chest? What if somebody scoops him up and gets into other hijinks and then he.

[Jill Knight]

Ends up in a different next cover story? Actually, that's what it would be. Be like Buggy's cover story until he gets specked.

[Zach]

Roger, I thought we saw him holding the log earlier.

[Ed]

Oh, without ending the flashback.

[Zach]

No, he's holding.

[Jill Knight]

He's holding the baby when he gets pulled up.

[Zach]

Yeah. I don't know how he found a log and hugged it. Yeah, but you get the sound effect. Hug. Wait, is this log? This is a log and not a baby at all. Sam, finish this chapter off before this continues.

[Sam Leach]

All right, so the. The amorphous shape of Emu is dripping, dripping and trying to slime himself back into place. And we got Kaido. Like, I can't spit out what I've already eaten. And Big Mom. So, yeah, Big mom is asking him for the devil fruit back. Clearly. He's like, oh, I can't. I've already eaten it. It's too late. And then Big mom wants money. Cash payment.

[Jill Knight]

I've already licked it. You can't have my cupcake.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah, reparations. Emu is saying. I can see them running through the distant forest. And got Roger and Garp having a little Sanji Zoro moment. Like, oh, it was my blow that did it. It's like, no, it was me.

[Stephen Paul]

That's called flirting.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, well, that's also Sanji and Zoro, so.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, no, I'm just saying that's the term for it.

[Sam Leach]

Rox's eyes are on the prize. He's like, hey, what are you talking about? And Emu is talking New Davies, a woman and child striving very hard to live. A pestilence that must not be unleashed upon the world. And, you know, we got the shot of Baby Teach and his mom running.

[Zach]

Wait, that's how Long. They're holding.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah, I guess.

[Stephen Paul]

Like, can you imagine?

[Sam Leach]

Maybe it's just. It's just like a log with a little, like, bush at the top, you.

[Zach]

Know, since the mom is somewhere else, you know, the babies are just doing their own thing on God Valley. They're all having a baby fight.

[Jill Knight]

This is Baby Geniuses 3, actually. And all the babies know what's up.

[Zach]

Shit. That's the spin off we need here. Baby God Valley, Baby Valley.

[Sam Leach]

And Rox is not having this. He jumps into action like, whatever you're.

[Stephen Paul]

Thinking, don't do it.

[Sam Leach]

And slices.

[Zach]

Sorry.

[Sam Leach]

Sam decapitates Emu as much as as Imu can be, I suppose.

[Zach]

And twice.

[Sam Leach]

Something's got Garp's attention. He's looking up and hearing the boom boom. And Emu is saying, moo, I will do nothing. And Rock's like, ah. What is this? Doesn't even. It doesn't even hurt. It feels amazing.

[Zach]

Sorry, go ahead.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Sam Leach]

Emu said or piccolo. Like.

[Zach]

Oh, that's a piccolo. Piccolo. Piccolo. That's what I'm thinking. The same voice actor is why I was moo.

[Ed]

I will moo nothing.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah.

[Luke]

What does.

[Sam Leach]

What is. Is like a verbal tick kind of thing.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes. Moo is just the. I mean, it is a first person pronoun that Emu sometimes uses, and so I use it as a replacement for me specifically.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jill Knight]

I love it. It sounds incredible, actually.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Yeah, it's a Miss Piggy thing.

[Ed]

It's kind of like how Ivankov only did the VA thing.

[Zach]

We already did Ms. Piggyburn, by the way, Steven, so.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, that's true.

[Zach]

Yeah, we can't.

[Stephen Paul]

It's a.

[Zach]

It's. It's already canon. Yeah, it's Miss Piggy. That's who's doing this.

[Sam Leach]

And Imu's playing up the. The. The Shakespeare a little bit with, thou wilt end thy own bloodline, slaughter thy wife and child. And Rocks is like, what are you talking about? Are you crazy? Domi reversi. And then it's like a don. And then at the bottom panel, you can see Rocks growing, the kind of demon fangs. And his eyes going white parallel to the panel of his wife and child running for their lives.

[Ed]

There's Blackbeard baby with an immaculate head of hair already.

[Zach]

Well, maybe it's not a.

[Stephen Paul]

It's not a log after all.

[Zach]

Maybe it wasn't a log after all.

[Sam Leach]

Well, she found. She found the teach between.

[Zach]

Oh, okay. Okay. I was gonna. Since teach we know survives, I think maybe the mom will turn into a log instead Although I. The logistics of that will be determined next week. That does it for the chapter this week. Thoughts on this one, Luke, thoughts on this week's chapter.

[Luke]

We're getting the escalation with this Domey daddy.

[Zach]

There it is. We feel like we've made that joke, but you go ahead there.

[Luke]

No, I mean, I like that we're getting more of the Rocks pirates. It's one of those things where, like, seeing these interactions has been a good way of fleshing out these characters who've been around, putting them into a different context. And I do find Rocks to be a character who I feel like there's been some division, but kind of like him being this rebel who is not good or bad, but it's kind of doing his own thing has been fascinating to watch. And so seeing this be potentially the point where he goes full dark and destroys his own reputation as he tries to destroy his own familial legacy is fascinating.

[Zach]

Any other thoughts on the chapter or.

[Luke]

I enjoyed it. I love oda's work and it's different looking at it panel by panel by this. Because I do write and edit comics my free time. And so kind of approaching it from this more piece by piece as opposed to just going with the flow is interesting.

[Zach]

That's what we do. Steven, thoughts?

[Stephen Paul]

I thought this was a really, really cool, like, I. I don't know that I would say it's necessarily like a break from the previous several chapters. You know, it is definitely kind of a follow through on all of the stuff that ODA has been setting up with this, you know, this whole sequence of God Valley drama. And I did, you know, I did kind of complain about the, the pacing of it and just kind of like feeling like it was really sidetracked. But like, this is this. Here we get. We have gotten to, I think the good stuff. Like this is the stuff that you really want to see out of this, which is like the, you know, the crossing of paths of all of these really important figures, seeing them converge on, you know, this, this single sort of attack on Emu was, you know, just kind of breathtaking, like just super, super cool moment. And then to. To end it with, you know, the, the use of the, the Domi reversi, which, which obviously I think like the placement of this flashback, like the use of dummy reverse clearly is absolutely key to it because that's what was just happening in the present day before we started this. And it's going to have to tie into, you know, what, what is happening. Maybe there is going to Be, you know, the, The. The key to overcoming the. The dummy reverse is found within this flashback or something. It will give us, you know, the. The pathway to success or at least to survival once we get back to the present day in Elbaf. And so seeing that used here, although, you know, probably pretty well telegraphed, I think is, you know, it's very satisfying to. To get to this point and I'm. I'm really eager to see like, it's. It's a good way to set up. You know, it answers a lot of questions that people might have had of like, why were Rocks and Garp or why were Roger and Garp teaming up against Rocks? Well, you know, and how. How did that jive with the Rocks that we were kind of seeing prior to this? As Luke said, you know, he's.

[Luke]

He's.

[Stephen Paul]

He's a much more interesting and sympathetic in some ways of a character than you would be led to believe prior to, you know, the last couple chapters. And he's really grown on me a lot. You know, I think it's. He's really interesting guy to. To follow. And so having the, the dummy reversi really explains a lot of like, okay, this is how, you know, the, the story that we were told prior to this came about. And I think it's just a very. A very satisfying chapter overall. There's some. There's some good funny stuff, even though it is. Is mostly dramatic, some. Some fun interactions. It's fun to see the Rocks crew just completely falling apart. Each one kind of bickering with their own little enemy here and there. And. Yeah, I don't know. It's just a really, really, really great chapter. I really enjoyed this one.

[Zach]

Jill.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, I mean, contrary to. I think a lot of people on this podcast, I've really just been enjoying this flashback from start to finish. But like, now is really like everything has come together. All the. The parts that we already knew about it are here and now. It's like, now we could see how these things happened. I'm just. I've been loving getting to know these characters that sometimes we only get one panel of before or just their zombie or just the tale of them. Even if it's just like one page that we get that fleshes out their character. It really brings so much more to one piece, especially on like a reread. I think it'll be really interesting going through. Through Thriller Bark especially. But I've just. I. I love the, the funny moments. Kaido. Kaido's incredible. Kaido might be the star of this flashback at this point for me, but he's great.

[Zach]

Yeah, he's.

[Jill Knight]

He's so funny. I particularly want to the. The page of 6 and 7. I like how similar Garp and Dragon look actually compared to each other. That's the first time I've ever thought they looked similar. But I've just. Emu is so interesting through this. I love that seems to be. I don't know, I guess I've never really thought what Emu's like full powers were going to be because we did get like the giant. I don't know what killed Lulu, something from this guy, but this is like actually like a physical being that's like actually taking over and using like tentacles and stuff. It's. It's very interesting. I am so excited to see where we're going. Yeah, that's it.

[Zach]

Sam.

[Sam Leach]

I like this chapter a lot. I think this chapter like very efficiently kind of like solves a lot of the. Not. Not necessarily problems, but like the. The weird kind of like the. The kind of conflicted feeling you come into this flashback with. Trying to like, make sense of, you know, like who. Who do. Who are we viewing as like the good guys or the bad guys or, or you know, like what's. What's the overarching, you know, narrative villain that we're, you know, supposed to be building to for like the finale of the whole series? I. Yeah, I think giving all these, you know, emperor level pirates this like big team up attack on Emu is both really cool, but it also gives us this feeling of like unfinished business. Like. Right. Like all these ridiculously powerful dudes got these shots in, but they're not the ones who are gonna actually kill this guy. This. This Emu character. And so that kind of leaves some. Some unfinished business. And it really like my, you know, we were having the conversation a few weeks ago about like, do we think Emu or Blackbeard is gonna be the. The real final villain of the story? And. And like this helped kind of solidify kind of a. A new theory that I like. Where I would like to see things go is, is for Blackbeard to get to be the one who like finishes the business of like all these pirates here. And then if Blackbeard were to like steal this devil fruit, then he would be like an even more powerful opponent that would put Luffy in the corner once again. That's.

[Zach]

That's.

[Sam Leach]

That's what I think would be interesting way of seeing that play out. I guess it depends on like how. How how sympathetic is. Is Blackbeard as a character gonna look when this flashback is over? Is gonna be an interesting question. But, yeah, like, I. I think we're tying a lot of the. The more complicated and. And like.

[Stephen Paul]

Like Garp.

[Sam Leach]

Right. Like, he gets to, you know, take a shot at, you know, the. The. The authority of the government here. He gets to. He sort of maintain his weird kind of like, ambiguous, complicated position. Moral position in the. In the. In the government as, like, the. The one guy who got to punch emu. I think. I think that. I think that kind of, like, evens everything out. That was, like, sort of, like, up in the air and overly complicated before this moment.

[Zach]

Anything else, Sam?

[Sam Leach]

I think that. I think that's mostly it.

[Zach]

I'll try and go through it quick, but when you're talking about Blackbeard specifically, it kind of brought to mind. Okay, Blackbeard, this might kind of. So I. I think the domi reversi with. With rocks was kind of the. Of the things in this chapter was probably the most. I want to say predictable, but one of the more, like, less shocking things I thought, personally in reading this, I'm like, okay, that makes sense. That kind of fits.

[Sam Leach]

It feels like the buster call getting called in Robin's flashback.

[Zach]

It's like, yeah, you're waiting for that.

[Sam Leach]

We're gonna see it take some lives. It's. This is probably where Rox is gonna die.

[Zach]

Right? I agree. But it also explains potentially why. It may explain. Blackbeard may kind of think that this was actually his father doing these things, because how would he have any context at this age, particularly as to why his own father would be trying to kill him?

[Jill Knight]

And going off of that. How does he end up on Whitebeard's crew? And, like, what's the. The relationship there, too? Right. Like, how did that end up happening in him being just like one of Whitebeard's sons?

[Zach]

Yeah. And why?

[Sam Leach]

Well, he. He chose the Whitebeard crew because that would give him the best chance to get the dark.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah. Like, Whitebeard would know, right? Like, you would know he was right.

[Zach]

Right.

[Jill Knight]

He looks just like him.

[Sam Leach]

Sometime between. Between this arc and, like, him being a slightly older kid who joins Whitebeard, he's. He's developing a plan.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah. And there's.

[Zach]

There's that maybe Whitebeard thought he, like, could, like. Well, I mean, like, he. Whitebeard was.

[Sam Leach]

I mean, I think Whitebeard's paying attention. I don't think Whitebeard's, like, gonna be like, I'm gonna remember that little kid over there.

[Jill Knight]

There's a whole thing with. He could, like, cut shanks his eye, too, with Shanks his scar. There's like, all sorts of stuff about Blackbeard's past, like, but even between, like, here and where we met him in the thing that. It's just. Well, I know that, but just things that we know have happened that haven't.

[Zach]

From ages 2 through what is 38. He's much younger than he should be. A lot.

[Sam Leach]

And whatever the. Whatever. Whatever the history is that we're going to learn about the. The Davey family.

[Zach]

Yeah, there's a lot of good questions there specifically.

[Sam Leach]

And like, how. How similar or different is that to Joy Boy and Nika and Emu talking about how, you know, they have a vision of the world that they're trying to finish and when on Egghead, you had, like, Blackbeard's Pirates talking about how what Blackbeard wants is, quote, unquote, the world.

[Stephen Paul]

Like, how.

[Sam Leach]

Like, I think there's a lot of interesting potential pieces here. And I, and I, And I. Where was I gonna go with that? This is your. This is your segment, Zach.

[Zach]

I don't get any of those. This is my podcast. It's incomplete. No, so the, The. The thing. This is like such a. It's a really interesting dynamic between Rocks and Emu in particular, specifically since they have met, as we saw earlier in the flashback, and that this seems to be, if not the ancient conflict, an ancient conflict Emu has, because we also know the stuff with Nika or Joy Boy obviously instigated some of this. Like, that's the thing. It occurred to me at some point in the last few years at least, that this generation, the. The God Valley generation feels like the ancient history. But the ancient history is so much. This is only one generation removed from our crew, which, you know, I think we talk a lot about, like, you know, civil rights era kind of history being in black and white, and sometimes that's on purpose, but, like, it is only really one generation removed from a lot of us or at most two. So, like, it's one of those things. No, the. The real history in one piece here that we need to concern ourselves about is even further than that. Sorry, that was a tangent. How dare I interrupt my segment here? But what I was going to say is the Davy Jones slash Vox thing is particularly interesting. Stephen, is there, like, anything that might not be translatable in that exchange? Like, that's. That's one. I was. That raised some alarm bells. Which, which part So, I mean, obviously the chapter is titled Promises, and so maybe the context of that. And also that whole. That whole exchange, like. So it was you, Davey. I'll translate. So it was you, Davy Jones, and you got. Yeah, I never met him. Yeah, go ahead.

[Stephen Paul]

Right, well, so obviously, you know, with. With the way that Emu says, so it was you. So it was the. Obviously that would suggest that Emu did not realize the, like, the importance of rocks when he showed up in Mary Joa.

[Zach]

Right.

[Stephen Paul]

Because they had. They had their. Their showdown once before and then. And now somehow Imu realizes that it's Davy Jones. I don't know. I mean, promise. I have to look back at what was the. The chapter I. I had it.

[Zach]

It was 11:55, I think, and I'll pull it up now.

[Stephen Paul]

That was the.

[Zach]

That was the one with the. Yeah. Where he comes in. So it says. Okay, I. I mean, I could.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, well, I'm looking. Okay, here we go. Yeah. And then he shows up in the flower garden in a historical anomaly never.

[Zach]

Repeated before since someone infiltrated. The man described himself as a worshiper of Davy Jones. He did not do anything more than this, as he knew he could not. But before. Which is interesting. But before he departed, he left a warning. I will be back right here.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, so that's. That's kind of what I was saying. Where. Like, does right here mean in Mary Joa, or does it mean to you like he.

[Zach]

I will say if that's not thrown is kind of, I guess how you could take that.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, maybe something like that. He doesn't mention a promise. Like the word promise is not used in that old chapter. But I mean, I have a feeling.

[Zach]

It'S something separate, like just maybe subjectively. Yeah. Like I.

[Sam Leach]

What if. What if the promise is the. Is the original Davy Jones's promise?

[Zach]

That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Or a promise to the original Davy Jones. Although he said you have the wrong guy. Right. Like, it sounds like he doesn't. Yeah. I never even met him. It's such an interesting way to put that in that, like, I know who. It could still mean I know who he is. Or I've somehow.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I mean, it could be right, but he could be kind of like doing like a sort of tongue in cheek version of Luffy going like, I don't know, Joy boy is. You know that. That sort of thing.

[Zach]

Well, does Luffy know who.

[Stephen Paul]

No, that's what I mean. A tongue in cheek version of that. Yeah.

[Zach]

Well, and also, he is a worshiper of Davy Jones's. And his middle name is. His middle name is Real, Last, first, whatever his surname is Davey. So obviously he has heard of him. He's saying, I've never met him. I just thought was really interesting. Yeah, that. That and a lot of other reasons are why I did really enjoy this chapter is where I. I could go with this. There's a lot of things that can really be dissected here, but I have a feeling, you know, we're. I've said this a million times. We're in the middle of a story. Particularly with a flashback, it's really hard to judge it before it's over, before you have a slightly more complete picture of it and its context. And that's why I've been, like, very hesitant to, like, say I'm enjoying the flashback or I'm not, because, like, it changes week to week because of the context that we are reading it in, which is the problem reading week to week. But here we are. And I think this has been feeling like a more comfortable fit in a flashback because of the parallels to the present day. If not, I mean, look, we've litigated this to death, but this is no longer Loki's flashback. This is no longer Harold's flashback. This is like just Oda wanting to do a story arc paralleling what's currently going on. I have been enjoying so. To, like, address Jill and everyone else. I've been enjoying the flashback as a whole. I just think that the structure could have been cleaner, is kind of where I. Where I fall. Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

And.

[Zach]

Yeah, but I mean, it is what it is. Like, I. The entire Fishman island arc, which I know you're just starting again into Luke again, that is an example of a really good idea. Just structurally messy. Yeah.

[Luke]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

This doesn't feel like that level of it, but it does feel like that sort of problem. Like, it could have been just organized better. And there's, like, a part of me that mourns for that. That could be that. What if. However, that being said, I think this chapter executes on its mission superbly well. I think generally the execution has been good, which you can always say for Fishman island, it's just like the structural. It's just like I have little structural nitpicks for it, but the Internet could have whatever opinions it has about.

[Luke]

And I mean, I think the fact that Oda is still, like, kind of flying by the seat of his pants as he makes this, and it's been running as long as it has, and he also has, like, Health concerns and all the other fun things about getting.

[Zach]

But I mean, he's fine. He's fine.

[Luke]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think it is still such a fascinating story because it is so big and it is so large and it ranges on so many things. And like even in this, we're also just getting so many other small moments that are kind of completely forgettable. I mean, we get an origin for why Shanks thinks it's perfectly fine to find babies in treasure chests because that's his origin too.

[Zach]

Oh shit. That's true. How many, how many babies are found in treasure chests in the series? Is it just two or we only have two?

[Stephen Paul]

Two.

[Jill Knight]

But we don't know what's with Buggy yet.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay, so I guess over under Jill.

[Stephen Paul]

Are we gonna find treasure chest?

[Jill Knight]

I think Buggy comes from the gutter. Like the clown in it. I think he's gonna find him there like crying, sad little clown boy.

[Luke]

One baby, seven chests.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

You split up.

[Zach]

That's an incredible idea. No eats that fruit. But we know he eats that fruit later.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, that's true. Damn.

[Zach]

Yeah, I gotta later on that could still happen later. That's a good, that's a good origin story, but unfortunately, unfortunately impossible. But still a good origin story. But like even like the stuff with Dragon here, there's just so much happening. It is so dense and I get it. And it's up to. That's the thing like Kaido is the kind of feels, I agree with Jill, like one of the stars, if not the star of this flashback because of how excruciatingly hilarious and younger brother energy he is here trying to show off. It's. It's just very funny that Loki's flashback slash the God Valley arc slash, whatever this is, you know, turned into a real showcase for Kaido Garp. Like. So I, I. We've been discussing a lot of like, can Garpi a good guy if he's defending the Celestial Dragons, if he's defending Emu. So we get a little bit of an answer to that. But also how the fuck does he get away with this?

[Jill Knight]

Right?

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Jill Knight]

Because that makes 100% just like outright like fuck that guy. And I'm going to, I'm going to punch him.

[Zach]

And he does insulting him too.

[Jill Knight]

Like outright. Like, I'm so interested with Garp like whole career, you know, how did he get to this?

[Zach]

Does Emu get like amnesia after this?

[Jill Knight]

Because the punch hurt him really bad.

[Zach]

The punch heard him really bad. He forgets about Blackbeard because Blackbeard was a seven warlord. He was. You know, he's. He should. He looks identical to Rocks. Like, really identical, as we've previously discussed and Greg has previously noted. And then you also have Garp here, who is working in his employment, presumably carrying out his business for good or for bad. And really just for bad. Let's be honest here. And yet he had. He's just allowed to, like. No matter how popular Garp might be, which he is extremely popular for good reason. I'm sure Emu could figure out a way to kill him off and it'd be okay.

[Jill Knight]

Maybe it's like to Emu everyone except Rocks, who he recognizes as like an insect, so he like, doesn't even notice. I don't know. It is interesting though, because I don't know any repercussions for Garp after this. Unless it's something like we won't kill your son or something, or Luffy's grandma or something.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's a real story hurdle that Oda has to explain, which he seems to be doing. I just don't know how he's gonna do that.

[Jill Knight]

It's also, Garp staying in the military after seeing this is also an interesting thing. Obviously, like, you can, you know, like he's trying to do his best within the military and the constraints that he's given, but this is fucking wild, man. I don't know after this one.

[Zach]

Yeah, Dragon is the CEO showed up and started as a tentacle.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah. I might thinking, are we the baddies?

[Zach]

Do you remember that one time that our CEO showed up and I did say that my podcast was incomplete, so you all may want to reevaluate yourself. No, I. It doesn't make any. I don't get it. I don't know how he's gonna square that circle.

[Luke]

I mean, it could. It could be when you get undomi reversed, you just have amnesia for a while and everyone just gets Scott.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. But the Domi reverse person needs to be Emu here for it to make any sense.

[Luke]

Emu doesn't recognize faces. He has bad face blindness. Look at his own face.

[Zach]

Oh, is that right? I'm saying maybe that's why he thought Davy Jones was like.

[Sam Leach]

He doesn't remember that.

[Jill Knight]

Maybe he actually just has really bad eyesight. So, like, that's why he had to bring him up to his face. He's like squinting real hard.

[Zach]

It's like, you know what has that nose funny enough. That would explain everything here. That would. 100%. So the chances of that happening not zero. I'll say that face blindness or nearsightedness. Get the guy some glasses, you know, or whoever. I don't know the gender of emu. No one does, actually. It's probably. Okay. That's a whole. That's a whole other discussion. Any other comments on this chapter? All right, so that's. Ixnay this, Eggman say, and move on into the next one A. This is the Piece Together segment where we take your questions, comments, theories, and. No, I'm not going to say quake on that thing. I know. No. What's the better than that, Sam? Yeah, we're better than that. I'm not going to say it. You know what?

[Sam Leach]

You did say it.

[Zach]

That's debatable. I don't think there's any audio evidence of that. Quake on that thing. Quake on that thing. Quake on that thing. Sam, what do we got?

[Sam Leach]

We have dis piece. And our first dis piece this week comes from the Slayer, King, parentheses, Slay. And then like an emoticon with the. The D. The smiling D. You don't.

[Zach]

Have to read the emoticons.

[Sam Leach]

Yes, I do. They. They put effort into stylizing their name.

[Jill Knight]

It's a podcast.

[Sam Leach]

So that we will comment on it and gawk at it 10 minutes later.

[Zach]

Sam, what's the question?

[Sam Leach]

Hello, my fellow pig Latin speakers. What a great chapter. Made me furious at emu near the end. The full page spread was tens across the board. And now there's a possibility the yaoi couple of Xebek and Harold both got domied reverseed. I guess that's another thing they have in common, I guess. Anywho, sorry for the whiplash, but I have a question in mind that I was recently wondering. When do y' all think we will see Lot and Kid again in the story? Maybe post Elbaf or near the end in any. In a cutaway angst they and way avhe away udge equ.

[Zach]

I don't like any of this.

[Sam Leach]

Sorry. My, my.

[Zach]

Have a good thanks and have a good week, I believe is what that says.

[Jill Knight]

I think it's gonna be up there before we see them. We have so much happening right now. Like.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, yeah, but. Yeah, I don't know.

[Sam Leach]

I mean, they're. They're one of. You know, like I. They're one of many people I expect to see in like the big finale arc.

[Jill Knight]

I think Law is gonna be somewhat important because of his devil fruit. I'm sure that's gonna come up in some kind of flashback with like a previous user or something or with the immortal surgery. Because there's no way that's not a Chekhov's gun that doesn't get pulled, you know.

[Zach]

Can I, can I say something controversial? I am enjoying Captain John more than Captain Kidd.

[Stephen Paul]

Ouch.

[Sam Leach]

So what do you. What do you think of the theories that John is Kidd's dad?

[Zach]

They both are. Captain.

[Sam Leach]

Yep. And it's nicknamed like even Captain John. Captain John's not even a captain right now, but they call him Captain John.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's true.

[Sam Leach]

And Kidd's nickname being Captain, it was always kind of a weird one. Right?

[Jill Knight]

Well, he doesn't have matching goggles to kids, so as we know with. That's true told us it's not possible.

[Zach]

Those are the anime laws.

[Sam Leach]

Like they got. They got similar like mouths.

[Zach]

Yeah. That's also a potential way to be genetically related to someone.

[Stephen Paul]

I do think it would be really funny if like the next time we saw Kid he just has like a big cartoon lump on his head like. Like that. Like that's the extent of. People would be so mad.

[Zach]

That would be really, you know what? Not impossible. That's very likely. If anything the reason I say that I am enjoying Captain John's shtick. And he. I think that's the most useful version of that power I have seen. The treasure thing, I mean that's just. That is just. It's just a very creative spin on it, in my opinion. And yes, I know he turned into a giant laser gun in the middle of. At the end of Wano with the Pokemon stuff, but this feels more like a down to earth way to have magnetic powers.

[Sam Leach]

And the, the. The little like map accessory from Impel down for Captain John's treasure. Was that like. Was that like a compass?

[Luke]

The wrist.

[Jill Knight]

That's an interesting thought.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

With the magnets.

[Zach]

Huh? Oh yeah, with the magnet thing.

[Jill Knight]

Maybe he magnetized his treasure so that it would always.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah, yeah, he like perma magnetized the treasure or something.

[Zach]

Oh, that's a really good idea.

[Stephen Paul]

I thought it was just like an arm band thing.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, it has something on a glass ball though, on it. It didn't. I don't think it has like a compass in it, but it's got a glass ball on it.

[Zach]

It has something that. Yeah, it was at least one. Yeah, it had. I have to. Well, okay. I guess I could just google this. Wonder if I'll find the real Captain John's treasure if I Google this. Oh wait, Google sucks.

[Luke]

Now I have it. It's like a leather strap with like two triangular metal pieces and Then two like glass balls mounted.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I remember the triangles. Yeah.

[Zach]

Does he have that on him?

[Jill Knight]

He's got a coat.

[Sam Leach]

Buggy.

[Stephen Paul]

Right.

[Zach]

No, no, no, I know Buggy has that now. I meant does Captain John have that on him at this time?

[Jill Knight]

He's wearing a coat, though. It doesn't look like it.

[Zach]

Take off your coat.

[Stephen Paul]

If. If we assume that all of the treasure that he gets is the treasure true Breggy's looking for, then I would guess that he doesn't have it right now.

[Zach]

Here's the caveat though. Our big theory, and I buy into this one, is that God Valley becomes Thriller Bark. Like a piece of God Valley. And who's us?

[Stephen Paul]

Who's our here?

[Zach]

I'm meant to be the But. The But Captain John is dead. And he presumably died here. What for? So wait, I'm trying to figure out.

[Sam Leach]

Do you think he's never had treasure before this moment? Zack?

[Zach]

No, but I do think that this.

[Stephen Paul]

Is your treasure version.

[Zach]

No, the treasure is the friends we've made along the way. And we all know that.

[Jill Knight]

Not for the Rocks pirates.

[Zach]

Yeah, no, not for the rocks pirates. Or the Roger Pirates, apparently. Yeah, I don't. Whatever. Move on to the next question.

[Sam Leach]

Our next this piece comes from Usopp D. Great. Who says hello Old people podcast. I heard the that some sprites on the boards didn't understand the pig Latin reference in this week. Now all the kids will tell their chatbots to answer in pig Latin. A new craze. Reminds me of the tale of Heracles Parentheses Hercules in the Roman version who went mad and kills his wife and children. My. My last comment is a long range prediction that Blackbeard will be possessed or Domied. Domied by Emu and Luffy will fight and free Blackbeard, which will allow for the yin and yang of Luffy and Blackbeard to unlock the secret of the 1p piece. I yield my remaining time to the next disputer.

[Zach]

Well, that is how this works. I'm glad that you respected that.

[Sam Leach]

No, I. I like. I like think My. My preference is that this would be like Blackbeard's whole plan is to kill this like thousands of years old pseudo God person and. And steal the devil fruit for himself. And then he's got Kuzan, right? Like what the meaning of like Kuzan? Joining him to help him take down Emu. If. If. If Kuzan's in on that part of the plan.

[Zach]

Hmm.

[Stephen Paul]

That. That's. Yeah, that's actually an interesting angle.

[Sam Leach]

And having that power would make Blackbeard in even more greater power than any of the other previous powers that have existed in history. And then that would be a very powerful enemy to defeat.

[Zach]

Here's the big question. Who knows Emu exists? It feels like that circle should be very small because the way he's introduced is the idea that the empty throne is actually right. And everyone at the Reverie assumes the throne is empty. They assume they are the rulers of the world, like together, like the kings. The 1920 that have become more than that. And that the five elders.

[Sam Leach]

His guys were pretty quick to be like, oh, that's the guy who runs the five Elders.

[Zach]

Well, they sell Saturn. Mm.

[Sam Leach]

So yeah, they saw Saturn, but then they. But then they quick. They. They, I guess, intuited that the person possessing Saturn is his boss.

[Jill Knight]

Like.

[Zach]

No, I don't think they must know.

[Jill Knight]

Right.

[Zach]

The Holy Knights. I'm almost certain. No.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. They keep talking about the Great One and all that stuff.

[Zach]

Yeah. And they are God's knights, you know, also.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Which we've discussed the other week. But I don't. I know Garp saw Saturn and knew Saturn was one of the five elders and turned into a monstrous form. So, like, take a step back. They don't know that some other form is.

[Stephen Paul]

Possessing.

[Zach]

Here's what he says from his.

[Jill Knight]

The Marine says st. Saturn just started transforming before our eyes. And Garp says the five elders. Never seen them before. Looks about right for the kind of freak who sit atop those magazines. Okay, so it's like literal sitting atop it because he's literally sitting on top of Saturn. Okay.

[Zach]

No, I think it's the five elders.

[Sam Leach]

His first time seeing a five elder.

[Zach]

Correct.

[Sam Leach]

And he's already.

[Zach]

Yeah, the five Elders.

[Sam Leach]

At this point. He's like, oh, yeah, the. The five elders are the. At the top of the Celestial Dragons.

[Zach]

Yeah, sorry.

[Sam Leach]

And he doesn't like that.

[Zach]

That's. That's what I. That's what I meant. And that's what I believe is the correct interpretation there. Right, Steven? Or. No, you're giving a. Yeah, I don't.

[Stephen Paul]

I don't know. No, no, because I'm looking at the. I'm. I was trying to find the. The page in.

[Zach]

It's not. Oh, okay.

[Stephen Paul]

And yeah, I think I, I, Yeah, he just says the. The. When he says maggots. I. It seems to me like he would be referring to the celestial dragons as a whole. And I doesn't. I wouldn't say based on this that you could say for sure that he knew about Emu specifically. He might just be thinking wow. These five others. These guys are up. Look at this guy. So. Yeah, I don't know.

[Sam Leach]

Yep. The tracks.

[Luke]

It's a spider with a big black thing growing out of its butt.

[Zach]

Exactly. And they don't know what it looks like compared to a regular creepy spider. I like the.

[Jill Knight]

The way he looks like a parasite. Like. Like some kind of like a worm or something that's like taking control of a bug.

[Zach]

I like the cordyceps or the virus. What's that name? The type of like, microvirus with like the. It actually looks almost exactly like that with like the little legs and like the diamond looking. Oh, what are those called?

[Luke]

The phage.

[Sam Leach]

Talking about virus.

[Zach]

A phage vi. Yeah, that's kind of what. Yeah, I'm talking about a very. Well, there are lots of different looking.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah. With the legs and the creepy.

[Zach]

The creepy ones that inject their DNA. Actually, that's almost exactly what's happening here, is that they're injecting evil DNA. Watch out for that evil DNA into. I wonder if that's kind of Emu DNA.

[Sam Leach]

Next disc piece comes from Reverse imu. Who says, hey, chalkboard eraser clappers. Booger chapter was always.

[Zach]

Wait, what?

[Stephen Paul]

Instead of banger chapter.

[Sam Leach]

I read the words and then. And then I thought to deprive meaning from them and anyway, boy, IMU is looking mighty amorphous on that last page. Could it be that this isn't a silhouette and he really does just look like a weird shadow? Either way, the crown is bending and blooping around, so I think it's just a part of your mujisti's head. Is that their hair? Their nose? Their forehead? Do they really have really tall lips? Do they just have really tall lips?

[Stephen Paul]

Mujisti is really good. I'm gonna steal that one.

[Jill Knight]

You know, I didn't even think about that. But yeah, he's clearly not just like a dude in the shadows. This is like what he looks like.

[Sam Leach]

Like, pun, pun or something.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think I was saying how I wanted him to have the silhouette fruit. I think that would be pretty funny. And you could still make him cool. And also, I guess it's the shadow fruit, though. Like, what's the difference?

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's the. That's the thing is. Yeah, and that.

[Zach]

That was my own.

[Stephen Paul]

That was my. That was my issue with, like, Blackbeard taking it is like, how. How much of an overlap is there between the. The Darkness Fruit and whatever dark demonic fruit power Emu has?

[Zach]

The evil.

[Sam Leach]

What if the silhouette clears and it's like something that's actually very different.

[Zach]

I. I still think it is 100% possible that this is not a devil fruit.

[Ed]

Sure.

[Stephen Paul]

Or it could be, like, the. The thing that the devil fruits are based on or whatever. Whatever that force is.

[Sam Leach]

Do we lose.

[Luke]

Emu Got him.

[Jill Knight]

He's been dummied.

[Sam Leach]

You got too close.

[Zach]

Okay, we'll. We'll get back to Steven. What I was gonna say. What was I gonna say? Oh, after the Odin flashback where we find out that's his hair, the silhouette, people forget that his ridiculous thing on the top of his head is supposed to kind of look like. Like an old Japanese hat, but it ends up just being his hair. I'm pretty sure Oda would use the same gag twice. That's just my opinion. We'll see. Yeah, Sam, what's next?

[Sam Leach]

Our next disc piece comes from snp, who says, hey, Opp, if Steven is off this week or if he's already talked about Whitebeard.

[Zach]

Maybe we'll come back to this when he return.

[Sam Leach]

You can move on to the next question. If Stephen hasn't talked about yet. Okay, we have talked about. And then this person's thinking. Well, I'm thinking, is that a hawk to a reference?

[Zach]

That's what I did pop into my head, but I didn't say it.

[Sam Leach]

I think it's. I think. Unfortunately, Steven's choice of translation has leaned into the Choctaw.

[Zach]

I'll write it down, but I don't like it.

[Sam Leach]

Our next disc piece comes from Sailor Karna, who says. Hey, obp. I hope I'm not too late to comment. My kid wanted to share that she has learned how to tie her shoes. Please wish Demon Nugget her pirate name. A big congratulations on learning. Gum, gum, shoe tie. Congratulations.

[Jill Knight]

Congrats, Demon Nugget. I stood up for Velcro.

[Zach]

Yeah, I prefer slip ons. And I. Steven's back.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, my God. Very special guest.

[Zach]

Yay. There he is. He's the translator for one piece in Weekly, shown in Tough in Manga plus. Now, Sam, you can ask the question.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah, we have a very specific question for Steven.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, okay. That was crazy. Sorry, guys. I just grew these big fangs for a second.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Are you at that lock?

[Sam Leach]

Yeah. We were saying imu got you.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Zach]

Yeah, we did say that.

[Stephen Paul]

I could hear you saying that. Yeah.

[Zach]

Wait, wait. What is. What's the. So how does evil Steven act? Do you just not translate things like she should?

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. No puns. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Sam Leach]

Oh, okay. So. So, Steven, SNP's question. They really want to know about Chak Hakua. Is it a Haktua reference?

[Stephen Paul]

Evil Stephen would say yes. Yeah, no, no, I. I definitely went over that during the chapter.

[Zach]

Would Evil Steven have a different name? Stevelin Stefan. Evil Seneval nephew.

[Sam Leach]

No, Stefan. Like a dog.

[Zach]

Okay, what's the next question?

[Sam Leach]

Our next disc piece comes from Wispy, who says, hey, Opp, it looks like Gonzu e has the Bombbomb Fruit. And it's confirmed. John has the Magna Magnet Fruit. If you had to give the other Rocks pirates fruits that we've already seen in the series before, what would they be? Goofy answers are welcomed. Limit one. Jacket Jacket Fruit.

[Stephen Paul]

Who gets to play the jacket jacket card?

[Luke]

Why is that a joke answer? Who wouldn't want to turn into a jacket for their homies to wear?

[Sam Leach]

Well, it's just. It's a very overused joke on this podcast.

[Zach]

No, it's. Who wouldn't want to wear. Be worn as a jacket? That's a very specific thing.

[Jill Knight]

Someone's gonna have to name off these pirates for me. We already went through the red hair.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Who's.

[Zach]

Who's left? Who's the rock I talked about? Like, who. Who else is there?

[Luke]

There's Barbell the Catfish. Fish Man.

[Zach]

Oh, Barbell. Yeah, I forgot about that.

[Stephen Paul]

Kyo. Everyone's favorite shiki's rival. Kyo.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

I like Kyo more. More than I feel like most of the folks here do. I think it's a funny gag, but. Well, funny is a strong word. I like his glasses.

[Stephen Paul]

Anything would be a strong word to describe Kyo.

[Luke]

There's Marlin, the gangster.

[Zach]

Marlin. Oh, he died, though. He's dead now.

[Luke]

Rip.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, there's Gloriosa.

[Zach]

Glorious.

[Stephen Paul]

Wait, wait, no.

[Sam Leach]

Digloriosa.

[Zach]

Still alive. Yeah, Glorious.

[Sam Leach]

I mean, but I guess. I guess the implication is that they is that they. We're talking about characters who die.

[Zach]

It has to be a character that has.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, I was just having funsies. Okay.

[Zach]

Marlin. Okay, so what is the lamest fruit that a gangster could have?

[Stephen Paul]

The Castle. Castle fruit? No.

[Jill Knight]

The Mochi. Mochi Fruit.

[Zach]

Maybe you know that one.

[Jill Knight]

Anything related.

[Zach]

That would be pretty well timed, too, because Katakuri needs his fruit, as we know.

[Jill Knight]

Maybe, like, a stupid animal.

[Zach]

Like, ouch.

[Jill Knight]

I know, right?

[Zach]

Which animal are you calling stupid? Name them.

[Jill Knight]

Well, here's the thing. What would be most embarrassing for the gangster? Not for, like, normal people.

[Luke]

He has a human.

[Sam Leach]

Somebody had, like, the dachshund fruit.

[Jill Knight]

There you go.

[Zach]

Human. Human fruit.

[Sam Leach]

And died here. And this is why the government has the dachshund Fruit to give. To give Vega punk.

[Zach]

I was going to say it would have to be one that makes him squeal. Like the Liar Liar fruit. Like from the movie Liar 1.

[Stephen Paul]

The Truth Truth fruit or something.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

I'm surprised that hasn't come up. That seems like a real thing actually.

[Zach]

The.

[Stephen Paul]

The rat. Rat fruit.

[Zach]

Yeah. But. Oh yeah. Different.

[Sam Leach]

Different than the mouse. Mouse fruit. Rat model. There you go.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah. Specifically rat.

[Zach]

I like that you would be a zoan with rats. But you also have to awakening Rat king rat.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, nice.

[Zach]

And it comes to. It's always sunny in Philadelphia there.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Maybe that's what IBU has. What's the next question?

[Sam Leach]

Next. This piece is Crams them preg but scary.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Sam Leach]

Ahoy Ahoy. One East Pay Oddcast pay.

[Zach]

Oh God. Really subjected us to this this week, Stephen. 100% your fault.

[Sam Leach]

Seems like the Captain John and Rock's Domi reversi theories were correct after all. This chapter was so dense. But the highlight for me was definitely the big spread of every legend attacking. As I'm sure it was for many. I especially love how Kaido's technique was just yelling his species. My Dre. My question. This. I was gonna say my dragon this week.

[Ed]

My question.

[Zach]

Kaito in the brain.

[Sam Leach]

What would all your special techniques versus Emu be?

[Stephen Paul]

Have a great week.

[Jill Knight]

I guess I would just shout Jill really loudly.

[Zach]

Slot. It would be Slot.

[Luke]

You're right.

[Jill Knight]

It would be slut for the slut. Then I drive my car the Jilly Roger into him. That's my special attack.

[Zach]

The Chili Roger. I like it. That's perfect. Jill.

[Stephen Paul]

What was my special technique? Immutilation.

[Zach]

Steven.

[Stephen Paul]

I don't know what that would be. Yeah, but you know.

[Zach]

No, I. I'm. This is this. I. I just want to see now side draw you and Simba evil. I know that's not gonna. You know. Domi reverseed.

[Luke]

It's the Omide Iversi ray.

[Zach]

That's. That's too. That's a hat on a hat is what that is.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Zach]

It's too much. Reverse Ixnay on the Omi day. What would my special technique.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, what did we call your thing? The Corny Stunner. Was that the. Was that the name of like when. When Zach tells a really bad joke?

[Zach]

Yeah, that sounds like it. Steves would be the Stever then. I didn't. That's Sungwon, I think came up with that one. Sam. What would Sam's be? Something like. That's what you would do. I don't know, man.

[Stephen Paul]

And then what Does Sam love to do recline? The recliner.

[Zach]

The recliner. Lazy Boy.

[Jill Knight]

Lazy Boy is actually incredible.

[Zach]

Now that sounds like a stand, if anything. But. Yeah, I want it to be like Lazy Boy.

[Sam Leach]

I want to be like the. The RE4 suplex.

[Jill Knight]

The SAM slammer.

[Zach]

All right. Luke, do you have one that.

[Luke]

The delegation, the delegator. Just someone else does it.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's the Moria special.

[Zach]

Yeah, that was the Moria Special and Vegapunk special. Do we have any others?

[Sam Leach]

Our final disc piece comes from XprisonMikeX, who says maybe too late in the evening, but if not, great. What's everyone's thought on when we get back to the straw hats? Personally, I think we will not be getting back to them until 2026, but I'm hoping maybe sooner than that.

[Jill Knight]

I agree with that. Possible.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

We've got a lot to go.

[Zach]

Well, okay, let's think about it. How many weeks do we have until 2026 starts?

[Jill Knight]

And then subsequent with Harold yet with like.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, he's probably been spending.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah, we have. We have to spend as much time in Elbaf before and after the God Valley part, I feel.

[Zach]

Yeah, okay.

[Jill Knight]

A few chapters there.

[Zach]

So there's nine weeks between. And this is just.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, there's zero percent chance we're done.

[Zach]

So you could subtract at minimum three or four from that, so. No, we're not. No way.

[Sam Leach]

How long has the flashback been so far?

[Zach]

11 chapters.

[Sam Leach]

So if it went nine more chapters, that's like two whole volumes worth of just one flashback.

[Zach]

Yep. It started on June 22, 2025. As we record this, it is, as I mentioned at the top of the show, October 2027, 2025.

[Sam Leach]

What. What's the longest flashback so far? Are we, like, already gonna pass that?

[Jill Knight]

Odin.

[Sam Leach]

Odin's.

[Zach]

Odin was 6, 10, 16.

[Sam Leach]

Was it 16?

[Zach]

Let me. I'll double check. It was. It was very long.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes, very long.

[Sam Leach]

It.

[Zach]

It like knocked the others out of the water. I think Dolan and Kagura were the longest before that. And that was like maybe seven or eight. And those were bigger chapters.

[Stephen Paul]

Gils are longer chapters.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. God. Odin's was like in the nine hundreds, wasn't it? Jesus Christ.

[Sam Leach]

What a time to be alive.

[Zach]

Sure.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah. We've got a lot of, like, scenes that we have to see. We've obviously, you know, the Roger pirates getting shanks. We gotta see. We gotta go back to Harold and his reverse eye and everything with Loki killing him and all that. There's a lot to go.

[Zach]

So Wait. Oh, the Odin flashback started in, I think, 959. Sorry. This is going to be very exciting for people. Yeah.

[Stephen Paul]

Zach needs to know.

[Zach]

I do need to know. I have a problem. And it ended. What did I say? 59. Roger laughed in 67. 71. Are we at still going at 71. What did I say? 59.

[Stephen Paul]

59. Yes.

[Zach]

Okay. 9.

[Stephen Paul]

Just keep counting them up.

[Zach]

It keeps going. I think 970. Was it four or three? Something like that. So how many is that? Is that the amount you said?

[Stephen Paul]

I said 16 chapters.

[Zach]

It was around 974.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. So yes, that would be 16 chapters.

[Zach]

Jesus. Yeah, so we're not. We're not quite at that. But we're getting. We're only.

[Sam Leach]

It's gonna pass that. Like if it's gonna be this flashbacks gonna end in five chapters. Like you crazy.

[Zach]

I think it will be further than you think. Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

Next chapter. And then they're like. And we'll return to this at another time.

[Zach]

Well, let's put it this way. How long do you think we've been on God God Valley? I bet you it's a lot shorter than it feels. Just because of the amount of breaks.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because we've only been on God Valley 6. 1160 was called the God Valley incident. So that was like the start of the Real Crazy 1159. So it's been like four or five chapters. Something like that.

[Sam Leach]

What if they, like go to the present for like a little bit and then drift back into the flashback to finish it? Just to get. Just to get a little Luffy in there.

[Jill Knight]

I hope not.

[Zach]

No. Get it over with one way or the other. Like good or bad.

[Sam Leach]

Like our flashbacks need. Flashbacks need intermissions now.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Let's start writing this. Like Lost. Like every chapter has to have present day and flashbacks.

[Zach]

That's kind of Zo Zo did that.

[Jill Knight]

That's true. I'm actually watching though right now in the anime. And yeah, it's absolutely like they trickle.

[Zach]

I think it's a fun. It was a fun change of pace. Like, I do enjoy when he thinks outside the box. I don't know why I said that. Like the Taco Bell thing. Anyway, I don't know if anything else to say about that. Anyone else? Okay.

[Luke]

Seven chapters.

[Zach]

I think 20, 26 will probably start at least with a flashback chapter. I think.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I'd say a 6040 chance. Like, I'm not saying 100%, but it's likely. Okay. With that prediction. Likely to be completely foiled. Let's round off the show.

[Stephen Paul]

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[Sam Leach]

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[Stephen Paul]

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[Sam Leach]

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[Stephen Paul]

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[Sam Leach]

May impact your credit scores.

[Zach]

This has been the One Piece podcast episode 894 October 27, 2025 thanks thanks Luke so much for coming on the show. Where could people find you in your show?

[Luke]

You can find me most places online. It's Oltreg. That's K O L T R E G. I am on bluesky. I've also got comics and stuff that I've written at Itch IO Domance. Dawn is the current regular podcast that I do. It is a Simpsons and one Piece podcast. We're currently just now entering Fishman Island. So if you follow us on blueskyomance Dawn Bisky Social, you can go. And by the time this goes up, we will have open suggestions for both Hody and Vander Decken if you wanted to suggest what Simpsons character would play either of those roles. And you can also just go to the website dylmancedawn.com and see the image gallery that has all of the wonderful covers drawn by Colt Hoskins, frequent guests on the show, Mike Padden and Chris Dobbins. So please check that out. And also check out my co host Janine, who was on Blue sky at Janine Juliet.

[Zach]

I mean Vanderdecken, I know you've chosen a mo, but I'm just thinking of the mo in the with the lie detector. You know, I deserve better. I don't deserve the shabby treatment. And that feels like vanderjaggin.

[Luke]

He does deserve we oh no. Hannibal is our classic Moe.

[Zach]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Luke]

We've also. We've also used a few variants. My big thing is I realized that we used the evil dolphin from the Treehouse of Horror for a throwaway character because that as Hody Jones would have been fantastic.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh wow.

[Zach]

Trying to think of what other evil fish. And there's got to be a lot of evil fish in the Simpsons.

[Luke]

Not as Benny as you think. Blinky has come up a few times.

[Zach]

It would be funny giving him that much.

[Stephen Paul]

Wasn't there. Wasn't there like a joke about like A like an air force squadron with the fish. Like the Fighting Fish logo.

[Luke]

The Fighting Hellfish.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, the Fighting Hellfish would be a good one. That is very fish. At least as a logo for the Fishman Pirates.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Oh, it would be a vile option.

[Zach]

Okay, so, well, everyone out there, brainstorm. Jill, where could people find you?

[Jill Knight]

You can find me on Blue sky at Pirates Unluck and also in Final Fantasy 14 on the Ultra Server as Pura Unlock, as per usual.

[Zach]

How many years have you been playing Final Fantasy 14?

[Jill Knight]

Oh, maybe like seven. I don't know.

[Zach]

Okay, when it gets to 14, that's where you might want to take a break. Sam, where could people find you?

[Sam Leach]

They can find me on Bluesky lc Sam.

[Zach]

I hope people enjoyed that dad joke I made about Final Fantasy 14. Stephen, where could people find you?

[Stephen Paul]

Over on Bluesky at StephenPaul, BSky Social. And yeah, just check out. Check out all this stuff. We had a good. If you have not been reading Kurumizawa's Folly, that's one of my newer series that I've been working on about. Set in the 70s, about an artist who makes a bit of a Faustian decision and is sure to get his comeuppance for it in some fashion, making his new manga with an unwitting ghostwriter. And the. The latest chapter has really ratchets up the. The drama very nicely at the end, which is very fun. So there's a recommendation for me. If you have not read Kurumizawa's Folly.

[Zach]

Yet, I need to read that. It's very. What did we say, Zach? It's cool or something.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, very Joey Pilled.

[Zach]

Joey Pilled. Yeah, let's be honest. And a kind of banashi, of course, which the anime is coming out next year.

[Stephen Paul]

Next year.

[Zach]

Yeah. Well, maybe we'll find that out right after we record this too, because.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Sam, I thought you. Everyone else is plugged, right? You could find us@one piece podcast.com One Piece Podcast. Wherever you get your social media and wherever you get your podcasts, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, we're on Blue Sky, Facebook and Instagram and the rest mostly. And you can find [e-mail] on Blue Sky. Please subscribe to [e-mail] One Piece podcast. Once again you get ad free episodes extended, all that. Check it out. We have cool guests coming up in the next few weeks, so please keep an eye out on your feed. Subscribe if you have not, and check out our episode from last week if you haven't. About the use of the straw hat flag in protests around the world. It's put a lot of work into that and a lot of really great stuff in it. So please listen. Before we go, I thought why not do a little bit of really classic one piece trivia. One piece podcast trivia here. And it's what I call random number generator trivia. Everyone loves this one. Can't you hear it? This is what I do. I. I have a number generator. Google. Pick a number between 1 and 1163 and I will ask you five questions I come up with on the spot about that chapter. Whoever gets the most of those five wins. That's it. So each person only goes once. Steven, do you want to start? Are you excited?

[Stephen Paul]

Yes. Wait, so we got a Google.

[Zach]

No, I'm doing it right now.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, you're doing it?

[Zach]

I was going to do it for.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, it's the widget that they just pop up, right?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just telling people how I'm doing it. Oh, no, I'm doing. Oh, are you doing it or am I doing.

[Stephen Paul]

I'm doing it. I'm taking over this segment. 412 is the number.

[Zach]

Okay, so first let me open 412. What arc is this in chapter four?

[Stephen Paul]

412, I believe this is. Ooh. Actually, no, this is definitely in. Is this an Ennis lobby?

[Zach]

I want to say this is Ennis lobby. Good job. What cover story is this?

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, God. What? Ooh. Is this the Eniru cover story?

[Zach]

Not yet.

[Stephen Paul]

Not. Oh, that's later. Wow.

[Zach]

I will give a chance to steal if anyone wants to give it a shot.

[Luke]

Yes, Luke, it's not a cover story, it's illustrations.

[Zach]

No, I'm not that trick question. Actually, I am. That means.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that. That's what Domi Zach would have done, but.

[Zach]

Not. No, it's not. Kadatsu the answer, Jill. Unless you want to steal.

[Jill Knight]

I have no clue.

[Zach]

It's Mr. One Crocodile sitting in their cell with Mr. Three and Mr. Two thrown in. And they're all wearing their dream outfit. Or at least Mr. One is wearing his dream outfit. Looks like I forget about that cover story.

[Jill Knight]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Zach]

It is a very forgettable one, which is why that was a good question. This chapter features a, for the most part, feature half of it. I'm gonna back up and say this question again because I've already fucked it up. This chapter features the end of a one on one NES lobby fight between this. Between a straw hat and a CP9 member. Please name those.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh my God. So I only have like six different things to guess.

[Sam Leach]

Correct.

[Stephen Paul]

Jesus.

[Zach]

Okay, I will tell you the title of this chapter, which will give you no clue.

[Stephen Paul]

Okay. All right, we'll see about that.

[Zach]

It might actually. For one person who might actually get it, you missed your chance. That is the name. Not me. Just saying that that's the name of the chapter.

[Stephen Paul]

412 missed your chance.

[Luke]

Oh, I know.

[Zach]

Well, we'll let you steal if Stephen can.

[Stephen Paul]

Was it. Oh, man. Yeah, I don't. Okay, I'm just. I'm just gonna guess the first thing that I was thinking, which was Luffy and Blueno.

[Zach]

Nope. Nope.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

All right, Luke, if you want to steal.

[Luke]

I can give context. Even though this would help, Steven, because if I'm remembering correctly, this was when Usopp is given the chance to take the key and leave while the other fight is going on, but he doesn't take it. And so I'm going to assume that this might be the Nami and Khalifa.

[Zach]

Yes, I'm giving that point to you. Very good job.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, I see. I was thinking of Jabra, because that. That sounds like something he would have said. But then I was like, oh, but that's probably not the actual fight. So it would have been switching between that and something else. And I was just like, I have no idea which one it would be.

[Zach]

Okay, slightly easier question for number four here, Steven. How. What attack does Nami use to finish off Khalifa?

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, man.

[Zach]

To finish off is a very strong. Was it.

[Stephen Paul]

I don't know, all of her attack. It's going to be something like a thunderbolt tempo or something like that.

[Zach]

I'm going to take it.

[Luke]

Although, Luke, she summons the three Morrigan, so it's like more. More Eye Morrigan tempo because she gets the tall one, the middle one, and then that all, like, combines into the thunder attack that hits her.

[Zach]

Correct. Thunder Lance tempo is how it is translated.

[Stephen Paul]

Ah, okay.

[Zach]

But Steven, I'm gonna give this to you because you were close.

[Stephen Paul]

Partial credit.

[Zach]

Okay, I'll give you credit if you have a partial one in the future. I'll give you a half. We're very strict here. Next, let's last question. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Okay, so this chapter also features these. The. I'm trying to think of how to read this. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Stephen Paul]

Does it feature any creatures? Creatures maybe.

[Zach]

Shut your face. God, I don't like evil. Steven, this is not fun. Okay, this does feature one creature. I'm doing this on purpose now. It does feature one creature who's not Really? A creature. Okay. Caulifa turns herself into this sort of animal.

[Stephen Paul]

Are you talking about the sheep?

[Zach]

The sheep. Okay.

[Stephen Paul]

Yes.

[Zach]

I apparently got these questions easier and easier as they went on Steven. You got three points, Sam. Okay, I'm gonna pick your number because I don't like when someone else picks my number and is 952. So let's see. What. What arc is that? We're in wano and what act in wano. I'll. I'll add to this. I know. I guess it doesn't matter. No, forget it. Wano's fine. I'm gonna give it to you because I want to be that mean. What cover story.

[Sam Leach]

What cover story was going on?

[Zach]

There is a cover story. It is not a trick question.

[Sam Leach]

Okay, let me think about it.

[Zach]

Okay. Have you thought about.

[Sam Leach]

It's Jim Bay, right? Jim Bay.

[Zach]

No. Anyone want to steal this one? Well, it just wants to steal all. Yeah. No.

[Luke]

Yeah. I'm sorry. Is it the Germain 66?

[Zach]

No.

[Luke]

Oh, okay, then. I know what it is, but I won't go and guess again.

[Sam Leach]

I've been vastly underestimating, like, the density of how many cover stories there are.

[Zach]

Yeah, there are some. It's more than you think.

[Stephen Paul]

There's a lot.

[Zach]

Does Steven or Jill want to guess?

[Stephen Paul]

Well, I had to. I had to get up. What's the number?

[Zach]

952.

[Stephen Paul]

952.

[Sam Leach]

I think I know what the other one would have to be then.

[Zach]

Yeah, there's not many left that it could be.

[Jill Knight]

Is it Barto? Is that one? There are so many cover stories.

[Zach]

Does Barto have one now? I'm like, oh, my.

[Stephen Paul]

Crazy.

[Sam Leach]

There's a fleet. There's a fleet one.

[Zach]

That's. I think, what you're thinking with the. With the ripoff merch. Yeah. Okay.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Okay. The answer is Luke.

[Luke]

Oh, is it the caribou?

[Zach]

No, you're too far back.

[Sam Leach]

Oh, that's another one.

[Zach]

Gangbasius. Oh, my family. Oh, my God.

[Jill Knight]

Come on.

[Zach]

Wow. Also, I just need to say please, when you have a chance. After listening, go to chapter 952, because it's the cutest cover story. Picture it is Chiffon kissing her husband as he sets off in their. In their, like, little tart ship. And it's called what My Wife Wants I Want. It's. It's just amazing. He's just great. And don't make fun of his castle power. How dare you. Okay, this chapter features a fight, but between Zorro and this character Sam.

[Sam Leach]

952. I'm just trying to. So Wano does not start exactly at 900. Starts a little later than that, right?

[Zach]

I'm not answering that question for you.

[Sam Leach]

Yeah, I guess nobody is supposed to answer that.

[Stephen Paul]

We were discussing chapter numbers in Wano very recently on this episode.

[Sam Leach]

Is it the Hitokiri Kamazo?

[Zach]

No, no, I don't think that happens here yet, but. Oh, you were so close, which I. Now I can't let anyone steal it. Onimaru with the fox guy.

[Stephen Paul]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

That's why I asked.

[Sam Leach]

That's like one off.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, it is. What is really close. That's why I was like, whoa. You, like, really had that on the nose. This chapter features. Ooh, okay. This. This chapter features the former yakuza bosses of each region. Name any of them.

[Sam Leach]

Oh, my God. Shoot. I mean, like, you're not. You're not counting Kyoguro, right?

[Zach]

No.

[Sam Leach]

Or is that One meets the.

[Zach]

He meets the ones of the four regions.

[Luke]

Oh, shit.

[Zach]

Udon, Hakumae, Ringo. And I will say one looks just like that same character from. Hey, Arnold, that's my hand. That's my.

[Sam Leach]

Oh, shoot.

[Zach]

When the head shape. Not really anything.

[Sam Leach]

I'm gonna guess that this guy's name also starts with a G for some reason.

[Zach]

I know Steven knows all of.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

Like, if there's one.

[Stephen Paul]

And at least a couple of them.

[Zach]

I mean, shoot.

[Sam Leach]

I really. I don't think I can pull one out.

[Zach]

Luke seems to really.

[Sam Leach]

Oh, my God. It's on the tip of my tongue. The. The cat man.

[Zach]

Sam, I'm gonna have to cut you off here because we don't have all night. Just the next 15 minutes.

[Sam Leach]

I. I can imagine them in my head, if that counts.

[Zach]

No, it doesn't. Luke, do you. You look like you had them. Oh, no, no.

[Luke]

I've only read this once.

[Zach]

Yeah, Stephen is.

[Stephen Paul]

Wait.

[Zach]

Oh, Gerald, I think I'm wrong.

[Jill Knight]

It's like a woman named, like, Ocho or something.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. Stephen, what are the.

[Stephen Paul]

O. Masa is the name of the cat guy. There's Snake Eyes, Yatape, who's like the one with the black. The crazy black hair and the really, like, small eyes. And then.

[Zach]

Can you get the last one?

[Stephen Paul]

What was the fourth? Yeah, what was the fourth one?

[Zach]

Do you want to try?

[Stephen Paul]

What did he look like?

[Zach]

Well, that'll give it away because it's exactly like the description. He looks like Scarecrow from.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, a little bit. No, I don't remember. I'm sure I'll remember as soon as.

[Zach]

You say split hat. Sunagoro.

[Stephen Paul]

Tsunagoro. That's right. Yeah. He's the one. I don't. I always forget that one.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah. There are those four. There's the kick and claw. Force of the Wano Arc. I knew that would be a great question. What was that? Three or four? That was four. Because I asked you the. It was the fight. So there's one. One more question, Sam. What is the name of the port that Kinemon and Shuten Maru and crew have arrived at here and are planning their next steps and their escapades? You know, this isn't the end Tokage port. No, it's a different port.

[Sam Leach]

Oh, that's the other one.

[Zach]

It's the other one. This is Hominin. This is. No, the other one. Does anyone know this one? Oven. Steven, the other port.

[Jill Knight]

Oh, fuck.

[Zach]

The one other port. I think.

[Stephen Paul]

Well, I remember there's Moguda, but that one's. I think that's the one that's like under the island.

[Zach]

Wow. I didn't know there were this many ports in water.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, there's a few, right?

[Zach]

Should I just say it? Does anyone. All right, the answer is Itachi port.

[Jill Knight]

I should have known that. Yeah, I remembered it because of Naruto.

[Zach]

I was gonna say. I was gonna say from the Naruto Itachis. There's Borrow to port. Oh, my God. Cannot speak port. That's what I call it.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's what they.

[Zach]

That's what Sam is also named board. That's it. That's the title. It's too late. It isn't. So, Sam, you got one point. Steven has is on the board.

[Sam Leach]

What one point did I get the.

[Zach]

What arc is it in? Steven has four right now. Jill has one.

[Sam Leach]

I was close on like all of them, though.

[Jill Knight]

Listen.

[Zach]

Luke. Luke is a one and a half, so. Okay, Jill, you're next. 712. Let me get there. What arc is this? As I get there, you might know the answer before me. Let's find out. 7:12. You're right, guys. Oh, I'm not even gonna tell you. My easy way to remember that. Okay, what cover story is it?

[Jill Knight]

Oh, God. We've already determined this is a hard question.

[Zach]

Dressrosa.

[Jill Knight]

Dressrosa. So right before that punk hazard, I have.

[Zach]

I have two big hints to this that I will wait to give. I'll let you try. Jill.

[Jill Knight]

Is it like. What are they called when it's like reactions around the world?

[Zach]

No, it's not. Decks of the World.

[Jill Knight]

Fuck.

[Zach]

Anyone else want to give a shot? I mean, there's Only so many.

[Stephen Paul]

That's what I would have guessed of the world.

[Luke]

Is it Wadatsumi's?

[Zach]

No, that's the Jinbei one.

[Jill Knight]

The Jinbei one.

[Zach]

All right, I'll give. I'll give two hints. One, it's one we have already mentioned because. Of course. And two, we named a episode title after this. I believe this specific covers cover story.

[Jill Knight]

But like. Or Lumbus.

[Sam Leach]

We've already named.

[Zach]

No, I wish. That's the. That's a Decks of the world, though. You're just.

[Jill Knight]

That would make sense in dress Rosa. Anyways.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. No one or Lumbus yet.

[Sam Leach]

Give me. I want.

[Zach]

Okay, you get two seconds and then I'm saying the answer there.

[Sam Leach]

Is there one with like the Punk Hazard kids?

[Zach]

One? Okay, the answer is Caribou's cover story.

[Jill Knight]

Sam, you should have gotten him. See, I blanked that guy out of my mind.

[Zach]

It is Ted. Grandma is the. That is she. This is her standing up against Kaido's forces. This was scotch, I think that one that we never remember.

[Sam Leach]

The other scotch.

[Stephen Paul]

The other.

[Zach]

The other scotch.

[Sam Leach]

The other one.

[Jill Knight]

I never would have gotten this.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, that's the homonym Scotch.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay, Jill, question number three. This. This chapter features Luke's favorite villain, Sanji, getting kicked in the face. By whom?

[Jill Knight]

7:12. Sanji wasn't in it for that much. Who did he.

[Zach]

True. Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

Doflamingo.

[Zach]

No, I gave her. I think I gave a big hint in how I asked this question. Luke, you want to give it a shot?

[Luke]

I'm bad at the names. It's Viola or Viola.

[Zach]

Correct? Yeah. Correct. Correct. Correct. Very good job. High heel, straight to the.

[Jill Knight]

Damn. I should have. I thought about it. Then I was like, it's.

[Zach]

It's a. It looks bad. He's fine. But he's fine.

[Jill Knight]

He's fine.

[Zach]

He's better than fine. Okay, Jill, speaking of. This is question four. Five. Damn. Four. Right. What is the technique Viola uses to attack Doflamingo's men?

[Jill Knight]

Oh, the whale thing.

[Zach]

Right.

[Jill Knight]

Iron tear. Whale explosion.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Hero. La glima. I can't Spanish. But there you go. There's. There's me trying. One last question, Jill, and then you will tie Steven if you get this right. This. I want to make sure I. Okay, wait. I want to make sure I have the character's name right. This character shows up for the first time in this chapter. Yeah, I was right. And I heard Josh squeeing about it from here. I don't. I'll put it this way. This. Okay, I'll Give a hint. For the non people who don't know Josh, this character shows up for the first time. He is of import much later and it is in. It is done. Through Viola's power, we see this character for the first time. That'll be my big hint for this.

[Jill Knight]

Man.

[Zach]

The other hint. I'll give one more hint. It. It. It's a. It's a good one. For the list of super obscure characters people don't. Jill, last chance. Say something.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

[Zach]

Okay, Luke, I saw.

[Luke]

Oh, I. I was going to say, is this where we first see Corazon?

[Zach]

No.

[Jill Knight]

No.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Sam.

[Luke]

Yeah. When you said super obscure.

[Sam Leach]

It's Guernica.

[Zach]

Yes, Guernica. Sam is staying in it. Okay, score four to two. To three to two. That.

[Jill Knight]

No. Who's that last character? Could someone explain that.

[Zach]

With the cool eyes? It's not even like the go mask. Yeah, with the code.

[Stephen Paul]

Who plays go?

[Jill Knight]

Yes, that loser.

[Sam Leach]

All right, the main CP0 guy.

[Zach]

The main CP0 guy. That was five, right?

[Jill Knight]

Sure. Put me out of my misery.

[Stephen Paul]

Why not?

[Zach]

No, Luke, you get 691. What arc is that in?

[Luke]

Okay, so we established that the 700s were dressrosa, which means most likely this would be zao.

[Zach]

So just six. So think about what you're saying. I'm giving you a chance here. The seven hundreds are dressrosa. So 691 would.

[Luke]

Oh, well, then that would also be Dressrosa. Because I mean, Dressrosa goes on forever.

[Zach]

Yes, you're right.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You're 100 correct. Think about where.

[Sam Leach]

Famously starts at 7:01.

[Zach]

Well, okay, Sam.

[Jill Knight]

So the answer is Punk Hazard before Sam.

[Zach]

Yes, Jill, I'll give it to you. Okay.

[Luke]

Oh, right.

[Zach]

No, it's okay. You're on the spot.

[Luke]

Okay.

[Zach]

You're good at stealing everyone else's.

[Luke]

Yes. Eat my lunch now.

[Zach]

Yes. Eat my shorts. I eat all of our shorts. Okay, now this chapter does not feature a cover story, but features a color spread tied to this movie. This One Piece movie, obviously.

[Luke]

Okay, so I don't believe it would have been gold because gold sets up stuff with dressrosa and doflamingo. So it would be the one before which I believe is Z.

[Zach]

Correct. Yes, well thought out.

[Luke]

The one where Avril Lavigne covers a.

[Zach]

Song by her then husband and Luke for extra points.

[Stephen Paul]

Wait, did they break up?

[Luke]

They were married like three years.

[Jill Knight]

I'm sorry for you to know this, Sam.

[Zach]

No, I don't think I knew how.

[Luke]

I inform you.

[Sam Leach]

I got phone calls. I Gotta make.

[Zach]

I thought that was a fake apple. If you're telling me. Let me take a step back. Which of the color spreads 4z is it? It is a renowned one. There's a few.

[Luke]

To be fair, I'm going to say it is the fashion spread because I believe this was the one where they had the looks that were designed by Gucci or Armani.

[Zach]

I think that is one. But that is not this one. Would anyone like to steal?

[Sam Leach]

It's the one with all the marines.

[Zach]

Correct, Sam?

[Jill Knight]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

Sam is really coming back from behind here. So that was three. We talked about how. This is the Punk Hazard one. It also features the. Oh, God. It features. A lot. A lot happens with this chapter. This. Okay. The chapter ends with a two page spread of Usopp making a specific statement as who is about to attack whom in a dramatic way. And the hint is Usopp is not one of the two.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I can't think of a better way to phrase this, but I'd be happy. I'd be happy to. So the main part of the spread. One person about to punch the other person. Who are the two people? While Usopp is monologuing.

[Luke]

Yeah. Like mentally. I'm trying to set all of this in my mind because this would have been somewhere around the time of the end of the main. Main story. If we're getting some of these other. No, I don't know. Yeah, I got nothing. I got it. Go ahead.

[Jill Knight]

It is Usopp talking as Luffy's getting ready to punch Caesar.

[Zach]

Yeah. And his stupid face.

[Jill Knight]

Stupid ass face.

[Stephen Paul]

What is us up saying?

[Zach]

Something about believing Luffy will never forgive Caesar for this. There's a whole thing.

[Stephen Paul]

Okay.

[Jill Knight]

He's talking to like the Punk Hazard idiots.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jill Knight]

In the big control room.

[Stephen Paul]

At first, when you were saying about. Usopp is making a big declaration as they prepare their attack. And I thought it was like, oh, it's the. You know, they're fleeing and they're running away from us. You know, leave it to us. Like that scene where it's like him and Nami.

[Sam Leach]

Usopp and Nami.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah. Yeah. But. But then you said two page spread. And I was like, oh, that's not.

[Zach]

Oh, my God. There's so many stupid things I could do here that are really just mean. Okay, I'll do this. This is extremely mean. Do you want extremely mean or not? Evil or not?

[Jill Knight]

Are you evil today?

[Stephen Paul]

It's coming back.

[Zach]

I'm always evil.

[Luke]

Brown dross beardros.

[Stephen Paul]

No, it was brown dross beardriguez.

[Zach]

Okay, my big hint is that the answer to this is a letter. Which structure is the sad. The sad manufacturing. I said, I asked if you wanted evil B. Wait, let Luke get this first.

[Luke]

I'm going to guess D. It's.

[Zach]

You're correct.

[Stephen Paul]

Yeah, there was all D in that. In that.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. Good job. I thought that was a question. That was impossible.

[Stephen Paul]

That's a good. Yeah, that's a good trivia question.

[Zach]

Wow, this was a close game, but Jill really actually pulled it out from behind with all the stuff.

[Jill Knight]

Wow, you sound so shocked.

[Zach]

You were not winning that whole time. You pulled that out at the end. Stephen had four, Sam at three, Jill at five, Lucas at four and a half.

[Jill Knight]

I would like to thank my family, Goda and Naoki Yoshida, who makes the producer a Final Fantasy 4.

[Zach]

Oh, my God, that.

[Jill Knight]

What about the Slugs, who also loves One Piece? And I would love to get him on the podcast, but the man is so busy.

[Zach]

If you know how to contact him, we should.

[Jill Knight]

Yeah, let me work on getting Yoshi P. I'll spam him. I'm sure that'll work.

[Zach]

No, I think that will get him to not come on the podcast. Thank you, Luke, Jill, Sam, Steven for coming on the show. We'll see you all next week for chapter 1164. Until then, my name is Zach. Goodbye, everyone.

[Jill Knight]

One anytime.

[Luke]

Smooth sailing. See?

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