Episode 892, “The Dad Zone”

Summary

The One Piece Podcast – Episode 892: “The Dad Zone”

Date: November 10, 2025
Host: Steve Yurko (with Alex and Josh)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the latest One Piece manga chapter, 1165 "Reverberations," with an intimate three-person crew: Steve, Alex, and Josh. After updates on the live-action cast and playful pop culture banter, the team embarks on a detailed manga recap, dissecting action, character moments, lore expansion, and fan responses. With no anime recap this week, the main focus remains on manga and community discussion. The tone is lively, opinionated, and self-aware, mixing deep One Piece insight with humor and candid critique.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live-Action Casting Announcements (03:31–08:47)

• Cole Escola as Mr. 2 Bon Clay (Search Party, Oh, Mary!)
  • Universally praised as "probably the best casting they could have gotten."
  • “Anybody who’s in New York or close to New York should go see [Oh, Mary!].” – Alex (04:10)
• Xolo Maridueña as Portgas D. Ace (Blue Beetle, Cobra Kai)
  • Hosts note the excitement of a Latino actor as Ace; some discussion on his previous work and fitting the character dynamic with Luffy's actor, Iñaki Godoy.
  • “It’s great. I think also getting another Latino actor for Ace is good… And it seems like he also gets along really well with Iñaki.” – Steve (07:58)
  • Banter about the endless extent of Cobra Kai and legacy casting in media.

2. Manga Recap – Chapter 1165: "Reverberations" (09:41–42:00+)

Opening Impressions and Cover Page (10:13–12:53)

• Discussion of the cover page: Beppo sleeping on Zeus, Law also present, snot bubbles all around.
• Fluffy, lighthearted contrast before heavy chapter content.

God Valley Battle – Action & Visuals (12:53–29:17)

• Detailed play-by-play of the fight between Garp, Roger, and Rocks D. Xebec:

  • Telepathic, emotionally raw Xebec begging to be killed, his attacks infused with “demonic energy”.
  • Visual metaphors, such as the island’s division mirroring the trio’s clash.
  • "If you look at this spread… This is the shit that you want to see when you’re reading a comic." – Alex (15:43)
  • Noted return to strong action layouts by Oda.

• Sky splitting (classic haki clash), God Valley’s destruction, Navy and pirates retreating, as Garp and Roger unite against Rocks.

• Observations of visual and thematic metaphors—parallel between the environment splitting and alliances breaking down.

Pirate & World Government Fallout (29:17–38:00)

• Flash to various characters’ reactions and side battles (Kaido, Big Mom, Whitebeard, Stussy, Gil Bastar).
• Introduction of “Pologram,” Marco’s dad, and banter about family legacies.
• Revolutionary Dragon’s radicalization moment: rescuing civilians at gunpoint, foreshadowing his future arc.

The Final Clash & Rocks’ Defeat (38:00–42:00)

• Roger and Garp’s joint ultimate attacks: "God of Fire: Ace" and “Infinitum Explosion.”
• Parallels between Roger, Garp, and their future descendants.
• Rocks’ defeat depicted as tragic and visually stunning.

World Government Coverup (35:50, 41:34)

• The “official story”: records expunged, population erased, God Valley’s existence denied.
• “The downfall of Rocks D. Xebec and his lawless band... cast unmistakable reverberations that shook the very world.” (narration, 41:34)
• Hosts note the recurring One Piece motif of history manipulation and erasure.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Kaido in this flashback has definitely been more fun than Kaido has ever been in the series. And I don’t think I’m alone in that.” – Alex (47:29)
• “There’s nothing to talk about [re: Davey bloodline] because we don’t really know much about it. It’s still being talked about pretty casually… I think it could just be as simple as these were just people that opposed the world government and they were wiped out because of it.” – Alex & Steve (77:00)
• “I think what One Piece does that no other… adventure manga does is the struggle of people trying to achieve their dreams—or what they believe in. That’s what sets it apart.” – Josh (119:19)

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Community Questions & Thematic Reflection

On Garp’s Complicity/Role in the Marines (62:55–68:53)

• Garp’s refusal to abandon the Marines, knowing he can protect “the rank and file”.
• Hosts spotlight the nuance: “It does kind of suck, because I’m like, no, Garp, no. The government’s awful… But maybe that’s the tragedy of Garp here.” – Steve (62:55)
• Discussion of parallels to real-world institutional complicity vs. trying to change from within.
• Josh: “Garp’s the one who’s going to set this track up for Koby, Smoker, and the rest of SWORD… to use the Marines for their proper purpose.” (62:55–65:52)

The “Famous Dads” Critique (50:30–54:06, 79:37–80:11)

• “I’m at capacity, but I’m still within, for sure.” – Josh, on being nearly done with constant revelations about legacy characters.
• Concerns over the “everyone is related to greatness” trope making One Piece feel like Star Wars.
• Consensus: one or two are fine; overuse undercuts the found family theme central to the Straw Hats.

Chapter’s Strengths and Oda’s Recent Artistic Choices (43:09–50:06, 98:53–99:55)

• Praise for improved panel layouts and action readability in recent chapters.
• “Action’s not his strong point… But those splash pages have so much weight and grit…” – Steve (99:55)
• Recognition that reading the flashback in one go makes pacing issues less bothersome.

Reader Questions & Piece Together Segment Highlights (84:46–152:18)

• Fans ask about traveling in Japan, favorite obscure Rocks pirates, whether a God Valley movie could work without the Straw Hats, and prospects for spinoffs post-manga.
• Steve and Josh repeatedly state they’re satisfied with One Piece ending, and don’t want endless new spinoffs—“Old Man in the Grand Line” energy.
• “Sometimes things are best left to your imagination.” – Steve (112:00)
• Extended, honest answers showing appreciation for the audience: “We always want to give you the most well thought out answers… You deserve our time.” – Steve (152:27)

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Timestamps for Major Sections

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------|-------------| | Banter & Cast Announcements | 00:00–08:47 | | Manga Recap (Start) | 09:41 | | God Valley Battle Details | 12:53–29:17 | | Fallout & Character Moments | 29:17–38:00 | | Final Clash & Cover-Up | 38:00–42:00 | | Chapter Discussion & Opinions | 43:09–54:06 | | Garp Discussion | 62:55–68:53 | | Piece Together Segment Start | 84:46 | | Reader Q&A Highlights | 84:46–152:18| | Closing & Sign-Off | 152:18–end |

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Final Thoughts & Closing

• The skeleton crew delivers an in-depth, sometimes “old man yelling at clouds” but deeply loving critique of One Piece and chapter 1165.
• Despite pacing gripes and overuse of familial legacies, the hosts enthusiastically anticipate the future fallout of this flashback.
• The episode is laced with humor, honesty, and tangible affection for both One Piece and the listening community.

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For New & Returning Listeners

If you haven’t listened:
This episode distills the God Valley flashback’s key themes—legacy, government control, tragedy, and the cyclical nature of One Piece’s world—while exemplifying the thoughtful, passionate, and candid community The One Piece Podcast has fostered since 2009.

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Episode in One Sentence:
A handful of superfans celebrated and critiqued a pivotal, lore-rich chapter—ranging from casting news to fictional dad jokes, raw emotion, and institutional critique—with the warmth and candor of friends who love One Piece and each other.

Transcript

[A]

This is the one piece podcast episode. I fucking forgot.

[B]

I think it's 890 something.

[A]

It's 892 because I made the drive. Okay, one more time. This is the one piece podcast episode 892 for the week of November 10, 2025. My name is Steve.

[B]

My name is Alex.

[C]

And my name is Josh. It hit great. You could hear how wide my arms went when I said it.

[A]

A real ragtag skeleton crew for this episode. Everyone else is super busy.

[B]

Did anybody else watch skeleton Crew, by the way? Was it just me?

[A]

No.

[C]

I don't know what that is.

[B]

It was a Star wars show with kids in Juan.

[A]

Did you like it?

[B]

It was okay. I thought it was good enough that this could have been its own IP and not a Star wars thing, and it was different enough that it definitely could not. It didn't feel like a Star wars thing.

[A]

Not in 2025. And I'm saying 2025 again because I just want to reel it in. I just want to bask in the glory of getting the year right when I have to host.

[B]

There was a droid whose name was Smee because it was supposed to be a nod to Peter Pan.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

And then they were acquired by the Disney company, so now it's no longer legally actionable. Yeah.

[A]

So today's. Today's podcast is about.

[B]

Played a character named Captain Lightsaber because he had a lightsaber for a hand instead of.

[A]

Sorry, Steve.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

Sorry, Steve.

[A]

How could I? Bring me. I don't know. Nyan Numb. I don't know.

[C]

Is that a Star wars character?

[A]

Well, today's episode, we're gonna be complaining about why Star wars is woke now.

[C]

Oh, finally. Finally.

[A]

It's a good week for woke.

[C]

Yeah, woke is back, baby.

[A]

But for today's episode, we're going to be talking about chapter 1165 5, not 5 reverberations. And hopefully we'll get some piece together. We're starting late. It's a small crew. I don't believe we have Sam for the anime recap tonight. So it's going to be the short, short episode, but I'm sure we'll have lots to talk about here. But we do have some news we want to cover. I would leave it to Alex to kind of introduce us to this. Well, I'll tee you up here, buddy. We have two cast announcements for the live action series for season three. Alex, why don't you take it away?

[B]

Yeah, big one. Cole Escola, who many may know from Search Party and their Tony Award winning show on Broadway. Oh, Mary. Which I ended up seeing earlier this year. If you are in New York, go fucking see it. I think Jenna Maroney from 30 Rock.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Jane Krakowski. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. She's in the title role this. This time around, and that seems like just the best. Yeah. Cole Escola. They will be playing Mr. 2 Bon Clay in season three of the One Piece Live Action series, which is probably the best casting they probably could have gotten for that role. And I'm really excited about it.

[C]

Can I ask you something real fast because. Only just because I was talking to Delaney about this six hours ago. What is O Mary? I know that they're playing Mary Todd Lincoln, and I don't know. I don't know anything else about it, but all the gay people that I know, this is suddenly the number one thing, and I'm very lost. I'm completely behind on this.

[B]

So the pitch for it really is they didn't do any research at all about Mary Todd Lincoln, and it's just a show about Mary Todd Lincoln, and it's fantastic. I don't even want to give away what, like, the actual thing is about because it's totally wild and totally worth seeing, and everybody should see it. It's so cracked out. It's totally unhinged, and it's absolutely fucking fabulous.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Delaney was saying that. Yeah. Jane Krakowski, Jinx Monsoon are like, people who have also done the role. And I'm like, they really knew their audience when they were casting Titus Burgess. Titus Burgess, Yeah.

[B]

When I saw it, it was Betty Gilpin and she was incredible. Yeah. I wish I could have seen it with Cole, but, I mean, everybody sort of embodies their energy when. When they're up on stage. Yeah. It's. It's fantastic. Anybody should. Anybody who's in New York or close to New York should go see it or just, hey, take a trip to New York and see some shows and see that. Fantastic. We have another casting announcement that came out a few days after that. The much speculated casting for Portgas D ace has been revealed. It's Zolo Mariduena. I'm sorry, Mariduena, who is known for, I guess, Blue Beetle, the DC Blue.

[A]

Beetle that came out more so for Miguel Diaz in Cobra Kai.

[B]

Yeah. A show I've never seen, but I've heard that he's quite good. And he knows, like, he's really good at fighting.

[A]

I'm shocked. You never watched that show.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know. I heard it's. It was pretty Good. At some point I'll probably check it out because I liked the first Karate Kid a whole lot and oh, you'll.

[A]

Be reminded of it in this show.

[B]

Everybody sweeps the leg every five seconds.

[C]

My podcast co hosts on swim fans say that it's like the most anime you can get from a live action television show, so.

[B]

For sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I haven't seen the last couple seasons. Sorry. Not to get too much of my opinion, but I thought I was kind of like, all right, let's wrap this up. But it just keeps going.

[B]

But yeah, I know that they eventually get Ralph Macchio on the show and I'm like, well, this obviously was the.

[A]

Spoilers. He's in the first episode.

[C]

I mean, he's not busy.

[A]

He's in it a lot. Ralph Macchio's not that busy.

[B]

He's too busy waxing off.

[A]

Spoilers, though. Hilary Swank has not shown up.

[B]

Oh, damn. I was gonna. Yeah, she was too busy doing yellow. She was too busy being very forgettable in yellow jackets. I've got so many yellow jackets. Opinions that like everybody's. Oh, people, people.

[A]

She won an Oscar.

[B]

People are still watching. Yellow jacket. She didn't win an Oscar. She got gone. Gone girl. No.

[C]

Gone baby girl.

[B]

Gone baby. Gone. No, no, no. Oh, my baby. What's the million dollar baby? Hot water. Burn baby. That was the.

[C]

Was she nodding? Gone baby gone. Is that not her? I think.

[B]

Is that a movie?

[C]

Yeah, I think that's Hillary Swank. If that's not, don't correct me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Shake hand. Kiss baby.

[B]

Anyway, very exciting cast announcements.

[A]

I think it's great. I. Yeah, I think also getting another Latino actor, I think for Ace is good because I'm gonna fucking spoil this for whoever is watch tuning in the show. They're not actually blood brothers, but I kind of like the fact that you think that until you. Because everyone believed that they were related by blood till a certain arc. So I think that was really cool. And it seems like he. He also gets along really well with Inaki.

[B]

I think Inaki went to the set like a. Like, I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. There's pictures or something. And he's in a very luffy colored karate gi. Kind of love that brand synergy though, with Netflix.

[B]

Oh, yeah, no, no, no. Netflix. I mean, smart of them to get people from their unstable. But like I said, great. Get Cola Skola. I didn't like I first saw them in Search Party and their inaugural season made me really uncomfortable and made me not like the show. But that's because they did such a really good job playing a creepy stalker character.

[C]

People don't talk enough about Search Party, a show that is slowly melting in real time. It's incredible.

[A]

Also, it's not lost on me that his name is Zolo.

[B]

Yeah, Zolo. We better go low.

[A]

Speaking of goloing, we might as well get into the manga recap. You fellas ready?

[B]

You bet.

[C]

You bet.

[A]

And I'm talking about good Reverberations. This is the manga recap for chapter 1165, reverberations. And wow is it's now a mouthful to say the chapter numbers. I gotta say.

[C]

1165, folks.

[A]

Yeah, 1165, I should say. But it's more impressive to say 1000. Just like it's the year 2025. 2025, folks. Yeah, people still say 2025. Sometimes you hear it and it's like.

[C]

No, I think you just. I think you just hear it on wedding invitations.

[B]

Oh, yeah, no, that's true. Hear it with your eyes.

[A]

But on the COVID page here, we have reader request. Beppo sleeping peacefully using Zeus as a pillow by Match and Takeshi and Oda 3. A little bonus there. Law is there, too. This. Is this a hoodie or a bomber jacket? It's hard to tell. But yeah, Law is sleeping on Beppo. And Beppo's got, like, cute little eyelash closed eyes here. Big snot bubble. Zeus has a big snot bubble, too. And, oh, yeah, they're sitting on top of a giant sheep who's. No, this is an actual.

[B]

Yeah, Duke. Duke something. Right?

[C]

This is a character, you guys. Are you serious?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. No, this is. No, this is. He can't be. Is his name Duke?

[B]

Because I think he was also. He was like the former Duke. Duke of the. Of Zo.

[C]

Right?

[B]

He was. He used to be the Duke.

[A]

No, because Sheep Storm. Oh, God. There's multiples. Maybe there's. Well, I'm thinking of Shippu Arashi. I'm thinking of Yomo. And. And the character you're thinking of is. No, no, Yomo. It's. What's his name here? Duke Genghis Bon is who You're Genghis Ban.

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

Just be lying.

[A]

I would have to say.

[C]

Totally. Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Yo Yo Ma. So I guess Law is the new Mypillow guy.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Law doing his very best to never get a CPAP machine by sleeping with three pillows.

[C]

Yeah, Mike. L. Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

But, yeah, I really don't have anything else to really say about this one.

[C]

It's very Cute.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I would have never thought to pair Beppo and Zeus, but they're cute. They're a cute combo. I'm glad they're there.

[A]

They're both white and fluffy, and that's all it takes.

[C]

And the sheep guy who's apparently in the story.

[A]

Yep. Yomo. His name is Yomo.

[B]

Yomi.

[A]

So we jump right into the action here. And I have not been on the show in a while, so this is weird for me to just take over here. But we see Zabek here, and he's having the worst day of his life. Even though he's smiling, he's communicating telepathically to both Garp and Roger here. As he cries, he says, please. He's begging. And Garp's like, do you hear that? And Roger says, yeah. And as Z here is taking a big swing, you know, he pulls back. He's begging to be killed as he brings down his blade. It's charged with, I think, demonic energy here. Maybe some hockey, too. Yeah.

[C]

Extremely bad vibes. Yeah.

[A]

And Roger says his words, his attitude, his expression as he blocks Xebek's sword attack. And Garp hops over. And as Roger continues. They're all telling different stories as Garp hockeys up his fists and a big, cartoonish wham with the fist right into Z. Schnoz here, a staple of One Piece at this point. I feel like we've seen a lot similar punch panels, like, so here. And Alex, what's happening on the next page?

[B]

So we see that the. We smash cut to Zebeck's foot, showing that, like, it's sort of. It's sort of pushing him back a little bit, but he has managed to keep his footing. And then we kind of pull back away, and we see Garp's punch fully connect onto his schnoz. Oda really taking his time with this. With the action in this flashback, which I'm really appreciating, which I'm really, really appreciating. And we see that Roger. Roger's sword connecting with Xebek is. Is about to get some. Some pushback. Xebek hockeys up his fist and takes a huge swing as we see some lightning energy. Either Conqueror's probably. I think it's Conqueror's Haki reverberate from him as it pushes. Yeah, yeah. And it pushes away both Roger and Garp's attacks. Garp and Roger both fly into.

[A]

Walls.

[B]

There's some rubble. This is a really, really cool. This is excellent layout.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Really, really fun.

[C]

Yeah. These spreads are really nice, really fun panel layout.

[B]

Like. Yeah, if you look at this spread, it's just. I don't know, this is the shit that you want to see when you're reading a comic.

[A]

It's not like one to one because obviously the first tower at God Valley fell.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But like I like that Garp and Roger represent like the two halves of that mountain and rocks is the split in the middle. So that parallel with the panel below it of the wide shot of the island. I thought was. That was pretty cool. I. It feels intentional if it's not. It's. It's. It's kind of, it's kind of beautiful how stuff like that works out sometimes.

[B]

Yeah. So we, we, we kind of pull back and we see the whole of God Valley and we see the. All the naval ships that are sort of docked, they're getting rocked and the waves are sort of. The waves are also getting a little more turbulent and we see the sky split, which is something that we've only seen a few times. The Whitebeard clashing with shanks comes to mind. And I think what Whitebeard clashing with Roger too in that flashback. And we sort of see the clouds sort of, sort of split. They sort of open as some slack jawed naval officers look in terror.

[A]

And. Yeah, Josh, take it from here.

[C]

Yeah, I get the pages with the talking in it.

[A]

I realize I should have switched you and Alex because I'm like, I don't know. Anytime Shiki's on a page and I'm like, oh, damn. Sorry, Alex.

[B]

Well, I know. I guess we're getting. And that's okay. We're get. We're doing. We're alternating. Right.

[A]

We're going around Robin just to make it easy.

[C]

That is easy.

[B]

I like that.

[C]

Yeah, I do. Before I go into this, just because the first panel on here is the sort of the sky split echoing the split in God Valley, echoing this sort of climactic divide between people. I mean, I just think it's a beautiful visual metaphor. I don't know that one piece is something that I usually think of when I think of potent visual metaphor. But I really think it's really lovely here. All of these sort of visual motifs echoing each other. I think it's really nice, especially for how much of a moment the God Valley incident is in the story anyway. So, yeah, the sky has been rendered into one of the cliffs of God Valley as fallen. The onlookers can only guess what's happening. Why does the sky look like that? It's been Split in half. We gotta evacuate before we're all dead. This guy who's Shiki's counterpart. Kyo. Is that the name?

[A]

I know. It's so funny. I was looking him up again.

[C]

I learned it today. Great.

[A]

Let's call him Silver Axe is what I always call him.

[B]

Silver Ass.

[A]

It's the super Nintendo version of Golden Axe.

[C]

It's never. I was going to be like, is this a character? But yeah, whatever.

[A]

Anyways, he is apparently. Apparently someone important.

[C]

So he's like, let's steal the ship and get off this island.

[A]

What?

[C]

You mean Rox's ship? You really think he's coming back? And then Shiku, who's all ready to go do his. His stuff. This is the end of the rocks. Pirates hurry to the shore. People fleeing from sort of the center of God Valley here. And then we were sort of cutting to the Marines and Roger's crew. What did you say? Vice Admiral Garp, once you've got every living resident and sailor on board, shove off and get out of here. And then cutting to Roger's crew. What's happening on the island, Roger?

[A]

Once.

[C]

Once Rayleigh and them get to you wade off the coast. And then you've got this. This great. I love this moment. This panel of both Garp and Roger into their respective transponder snails at the same time saying, I will be back. And now they're getting serious. They've both taken off their jackets, stancing up against rocks here. Garp says, rocks, Roger. I came here intending to arrest you both, but. And Roger takes over. Yeah. And my plan was to steal shaky and in the treasure and hightail it out of here. And Roger keeps going instead. Shall we team up for a minute and sort of like what Steve and Alex were saying? You get this continued motif of them being sort of in bookending rocks here. Garp replies, I have a number of issues with this, but I can't afford to let him run free now.

[A]

Alex, does this give you any Goku and Piccolo teaming up vibes? Oh, one maybe.

[B]

Dead Zone.

[A]

More than Raditz. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Does Garp have a theme? Does Roger have a theme? We gotta have Tonica try to make a track that combines the two. That'd be cool. But yes. Two foes lining allying against a bigger foe. As we go to the next page. And I think this is Garp here trying to, like, catch Zabek's attention here. He says, hey, Rocks and Z immediately just like. Just stabs like this, you know, this rock or boulder, whatever, you know, just wall that Garp is bouncing off of. Or maybe it's. Maybe it's the ground. I don't know, but I think there's a lot of rubble, so it's probably just like some debris here. And Garp, you know, just leaps over Xebec's head as Roger dashes towards rocks here, pulls his sword behind his head and unleashes a slash that makes contact and. And sends Xebek flying into a wall of rock head first. Stuck in like. He looks like a. Just like a demonic ostrich here or something. I don't know. I was gonna say Pooh, but no, Pooh kind of just got stuck, you know, just halfway.

[C]

Yeah. If Pooh was killing everybody in Hundred Acre Wood. Oh, wait, they made a movie about that, didn't they?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, several.

[A]

Finally been waiting for that.

[B]

Just what I've always wanted.

[C]

If Pooh was real.

[A]

Man, I can't wait till. Horror movie. I can't wait till they make a horror movie of every ip. It's. Everything's just. It's just ripe for content. Anyway, so then Garp latches on to Zabek's foot and he says, though. He says that. Look, you've got the curse. Curse. As Garp begins to swing. What are you doing there? I must ask. Curse. Alex.

[B]

Oh, you know, from Aqua Tea.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's what I figured. Yeah. Curse.

[C]

Damn, even I got that one.

[A]

Sorry it's been a while. But I always reference the episode with the. The virtual quest dummy. The kill, kill, die. So anyway, I'm really good with wow. Words fail me. I'm sucking. I'm moving on Segways. Speaking of old people movers, Garp starts to swing rocks. Is there any way to break it? As he just sends Rox careening into another just piece of rubble here. As Roger leaps into the. You know, he leaps further in the air, or he's. Maybe he's already in the air. And he unleashes a slash and says, just wake up. And we just see more black lightning bolts, you know, supreme king cocky hockey.

[C]

Hell yeah, dude.

[A]

And a little bit of time passes here. We see more of the Roger pirates making their getaway. Rayleigh carrying Shocky here and the rest. And Rayleigh says, faster. Roger's going to keep fighting until we've evacuated the island. Someone's like this.

[B]

Hockey's off.

[A]

The chorts, the chorts and the chorts. And then, yes, eat all of our charts. And we have Goriosa running up here saying. Running up to Gabon and says, got a spot for me on the ship? I assume heart. And Gabon just says, gloriosa.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Bad for her. She just spends these whole. Like, she's a dozen chapters.

[A]

She's a 10, you know, it's a shame. It's. You know, she just wants too much. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't you hate it? And Alex, what's happening on the following page? On the following page, I realized this worked out perfectly.

[B]

Oh, yeah, this is great. It's big mom and Kaido And Linlin says, listen up, Kaido. You owe me for the rest of your life, and you're gonna be good on that. And Kaido says, fat chance.

[C]

Fat chance.

[B]

So I can pull things from time and space out of my duodenum. And he says, it was finders keepers, Linlin, and you lost. Just watch me. I'm going to create a new crew where violence rules.

[A]

All violence rules.

[B]

His entire crew has, like, no fear T shirts.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And she's pretty pissed. She says, you think you're hot stuff now? Keep dreaming of the day you'll beat me. It'll never come. And then remember Strusen?

[C]

No.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, Greg.

[B]

Yeah. Well, here he is, and he says, come on, Linlin, let's get moving. Carry this treasure. Yeah, He's John Lovis. Jealous.

[A]

My God.

[B]

Yeah. That's treasure. That's the ticket. I'm having a wonderful time.

[A]

So she says, oh, this tree is so good.

[B]

So we have, like, you know, this is actually kind of.

[A]

Why don't you turn that treasure into some more food there, big boy?

[B]

It stinks. So we have this nice little. I love this panel because it's sort of a. Like, hey, remember Wano a little bit where they have, like, they just sort of glare at each other and Linlin says, I'll come and collect one day. And he says, and I'll be waiting to crush your spirit.

[A]

We will never be allies.

[B]

Nope.

[C]

Sorry. I've just been so. I can't save this any longer. I'm so obsessed with how weird and pathetic Kaido is in this whole flashback. He's great. Sucks. So bad.

[A]

It's awesome. There's been so many characters that have gotten better outside of their arcs that keep showing up in flashbacks. My hot. My hot take is Ace. Like, I like Ace was cool, but I like Ace. Ace I really began to appreciate after Wano. I like him way more. And Kaido is one of those, too. Like, yeah, Kaido was, like, badass, but, like, nowhere near my favorite villains. But now getting to see him as, you know, as a pimply faced teenager, his equivalent of it is a lot of fun.

[C]

Yeah, there's like texture and nuance to how much he sucks. It's really fun.

[A]

Not saying like there, you know, there wasn't any development with him. I think like the anime definitely kind of really helps the episode in particular that kind of shows him. When he was younger was a great episode too, but it was kind of just more like oh, look at all the struggles he went through. I like seeing like, I don't know, my thing with One Piece is like, yeah, characters can be badass but they're in One piece so they gotta be like silly too at some point.

[C]

Yeah. It was so much fun to watch them all arrive on God Valley and they're like we're gonna get shakky, we're gonna get Treasure. And Kaido's like linlin, are you gonna get me a devil fruit? Like, like I really?

[A]

You really? You said you'd get me a devil fruit?

[C]

Yeah, it's just, he's just so pathetic. It's awesome.

[A]

Alex started.

[B]

Yeah. So then we sort of like I like that there's. Oda was like, you know, I think I ran out of. I, I did all I needed to do with Linlin and Kaido in this, on this page. So here's, here's Rocks fighting Garp and Roger again. And with a kabam, he sort of, you know, knocks them into rocks. Guess that's why they call them rocks elsewhere on the island. Elsewhere on the island. You know, there's fire, there's flames. And we see, you know, Newgate just sort of walking, you're walking around and then we see a figure from up on the hill. He says, you're the one that knocked down that mountain, aren't you Newgate?

[C]

And.

[B]

Newgate says who are you? He says, looks like your crew is falling apart. And then we see fucking Marco's dad. Very clearly a character is very clearly Marco's dad.

[C]

Imagine if he's not. Imagine how funny that would be.

[B]

That would be really funny. That would be extremely funny. We joked about this like literally like two weeks ago when we saw a Marco looking character just sort of fighting a guy that his name is probably Marco Polo. And this guy's name is fucking Polo, captain of the Polo pirates.

[A]

No, what's his name though? What does he say?

[B]

The name's Graham. His name's Graham. Telegram. No, it's Polo Graham.

[A]

And you're in big trouble, Newgate.

[B]

Butter's dad. For the. For. For old. For old listeners, you'll get it. For new listeners, I. Every time Marco showed up in a chapter, I would always voice him as Butters because he looks like Butters.

[C]

I didn't know that. That's really cool.

[B]

This is Butters Dad. So I'm trying my best Butters dad impression.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So he says to Newgate that he's a big fan. Oh, but also, by the way, I said this out loud when I read this chapter earlier today. I just go, oh, sake. Like, it was literally.

[A]

I said the same thing.

[B]

Yeah, okay. Like, I'm just gonna. It's a little tiny tangent. It's a little cute because we've had everybody's dad in this fucking. Like, in this fucking flashback so far. I bet Oda got that feedback and he's like, all right, I'll show these fuckers.

[A]

Didn't he also have the Phoenix powers, too? Like that panel we saw him when he was fighting? He had wings.

[B]

Oh, shit. Right? Cool.

[A]

I got to know, like, because we're finding out, like, so many people now, like, you know, have, like, a lot of characters in this flashback have had devil fruits that we've seen.

[B]

Jesus Christ. It's like having a devil fruit is like the fucking, you know, owning stock in the Green Bay Packers. I bequeathed this to you on my deathbed. Now you are also an owner of the Green Bay Packers. So he jumps off of his rock and says, I'm a big fan of yours. And he says, hey, you got no ship to go back to, huh? Team up with me instead and. And please take my son with you. So Newgate just says, get out of my hair. So I guess that's how Marco came to be on Whitebeard's crew. Yeah, he fucked Whitebeard and they had a son named Marco.

[C]

Yeah, I've seen documents on that one. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Jesus Christ. Hey, I wonder what all the other rocks pirates are up to. Let's find out. So here's a panel with Stussy and Gonzui and Gilba star from Wanted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who was revealed in an SBS to have been on Rox's crew because his zombie is on Thriller Park.

[A]

Well, also because, like, there was a panel of when we saw the rocks pirates in Kuma's flashback, there was a guy that looks similar. Very similar to him with the bowler hat. And.

[B]

Yeah, so this is confirmed that, yeah, here he is. And it looks like he's got the Halo.

[C]

Halo fruit, which is very fitting if.

[A]

You'Ve read that story.

[B]

Yes, kind of cool. But also lending credence to my theory that God Valley becomes thriller bark at some point or a chunk of it does, I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, but they're all leaving.

[B]

Are they though? Are they gonna leave? Are they gonna leave?

[A]

We'll see. We'll see.

[B]

Anyway, Stussy's all like, where did dewgate go? And Gonzi's like, don't ask me. So when Gilba Star is there just with a, you know, big old bag of gold and his. His little funny ghost is sort of following him. Meanwhile, a naval ship. We hear, what are you doing, Dragon? Calm down. Wonder who's on that ship.

[C]

Josh, would you believe it's Dragon? So, yeah. So meanwhile the marines Dragon has finally, I don't know, stopped panicking in the middle of the woods. He was so cute doing that, by the way. But now he's just. He's taking control. He's attacked what I'm guessing is like a superior officer. He has a shotgun to his face. No. What are you people doing? Did you know what we were aiding here, Dragon? And then he's gesturing to the civilians of God Valley or maybe the slaves or maybe both. Put them on our ship right now. We have to rescue them. And if anyone argues against it, I'll execute him on the spot. So we're starting to see sort of like the Dragon that we know a little bit. This.

[B]

The.

[C]

This officer replies, this isn't going to end here, Dragon. It better not. And then we're cutting back away to the Roger pirates. Rayleigh, Gabon, where are you going? Don't you dare follow us. Take the ship out into open water and wait. And we're now it's Saturn, our favorite guy. He's made the decision as we've seen him make decisions before, you know, under Emu's orders. That island or is that. Is that him do you think?

[A]

Is this still Emu possessing Saturn?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at his eyes.

[C]

Oh, yeah, he's got. Yeah, he's got the eyes. Okay.

[B]

And he's also like in the font.

[A]

Yeah, he looks like our cat, Jupiter. They both make the same face.

[C]

Okay, so IMU is saying that island will have never existed. Understood. And then we're sort of getting the official story. What we've got in the. In like the. The. The world government X files. Right. The God Valley incident S level. Oh, excuse me. In the west blue.

[A]

West blue.

[C]

The God Valley incident s level, top secret classification. This is all of course, over top of Roger and Garp fighting rocks here. Records of Clandestine operations and special hazard pay for Naval Base G11 and cipher pole number six. And their fight has continued to such a degree that the other pillar of God, Valley has fallen, ruining our beautiful visual metaphor. Registry of the participants in the human hunt Expunged Site of Event God Valley Island Location area, population details erased. Number of fatalities unknown. And you know, there's. They're still fighting. They're clearly. They've been through a lot. It's nothing but rubble on the island now. Garp, did you know about that enormous black monster the government has? And they call themselves the good guys. I can't believe it either. Roger says, if you're going to quit the Navy, come join us. And Garp says something that I love and I can't wait to talk about later. Don't be an idiot. If I quit, who's going to watch out for the rank and file?

[A]

All righty. And Roger gets on his feet and says, it all comes down to mass, doesn't it, Garp? Garp says, mass? What do you mean? And Roger says, first of all, the color of armament is a power that doesn't yield to the devil fruits. And on top of that, I was wreathed in the color of Supreme Haki. There's no way it couldn't have hurt him. And Garp says, yeah, but he was guarding with Supreme King too. So they cancel out. Roger says, exactly my point. And Garp says, there's no damage unless we surpass that. That's the most Dragon Ball Z ass response.

[C]

It was a little, yeah, but no damage.

[A]

Roger says, if it's all down to who wears out first, we'll lose. There's no way to keep up with a monster like that thing. And Garp says, so you want to hit him with a critical mass of Supreme King Haki? And Roger says, exactly. Don't even think about whatever stamina you need after that. And Garp says, in that case, you're saying we don't come back. It was like you're saying we don't come back from this alive. And Roger says, if we pull. If we can pull this off, all three of us will be down for the count. And Roger retorts, but if we miss, we're done for. And this. This is Rox here planting his foot with a stomp. I guess. He's rising back to his feet as Garp glares over and he says, listen up, Rox, I don't know what I can say to console you. I don't know what happened to you either, but there's one thing I do recognize. I recognize your sorrow. And we see just Rocks. Just an even bigger blubbering mess than he was before. And it's contagious because now Roger has tears in his eyes that he's trying to hide as he says, don't cry, you idiot. God of Fire. And Garp winds up as well. He says, infinitum. Infinitum. Right.

[C]

Infinitum.

[A]

Infinitum. I always want to say. I just want to make sure. But yeah, both of them are winding up and Rox just lets out a big blubbering like cry. And Alex.

[B]

And continuing his attack. And I'll say it.

[C]

Gold.

[B]

Roger says, God of Fire. My future son. That's right. He says, ace. Which is very funny to me that he named his son after the attack that killed a person.

[A]

But also a sword. Don't forget that's the name of his sword.

[B]

It's also the name of his sword. That's right. I totally forgot that.

[C]

That is really funny. It's like if my dad had an attack called Joshua. I think that's really good.

[B]

But his sword was also named Joshua.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thunder Joshua.

[C]

Yeah. It actually sucks, like, a lot more to think of it that way.

[A]

Is there any attacks you could name after me? Steve? Steve. I don't want to say Steven because it's going to get confused with the more popular and more important Steven.

[B]

Of course. Gum Gum. Steve.

[C]

Say less.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Got it in one mic drop. And of course, Garp's attack, where he sort of. Sort of whips his fists. He starts. He says, infinitum explosion. So they both really tear through rocks here in this gigantic splash panel here.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't realize he was getting like. Like his leg is getting cut off.

[B]

And he was also huge, reminding us how huge he. He became. Looks like. Yeah. Roger's attack really puts a hole through him and cuts off his leg and whatnot. And Garp's attack is very, very much like Gum Gum Gatling, but. But with big old hockey fists and he's punching holes through them. And, you know, we slowly sort of see him very reminiscent of Dragon Ball Z Explosion. Sort of disintegrate.

[A]

No Excel. Yeah, I'm perfect. So draw that one too.

[B]

I could. Yeah. So then we have little narration here. The world government attempted to cover everything that happened here, but the downfall of Rox D. Zebeck and his lawless band of followers, the Rocks Pirates who wreaked havoc on their era, cast unmistakable reverberations that shook the very world. To be continued.

[A]

And that'll do it. And are we on break next week? I don't think so. We got another chapter coming.

[B]

I don't know. I think we might be on break next week.

[C]

Yeah, we, we got the wrong Stephen here to tell us that.

[B]

Yeah, well, we'll find out next week.

[C]

Wrong. Steve died.

[B]

Come aboard and find out.

[A]

Yeah, I, it doesn't say on the website. I'm just gonna check on the, on the app here. I, I believe Sue. I'm not going to be on for that one. But don't it, don't tell you no more. At least for me. I don't know, one piece, like James Bond will be back. So that's going to do it. And this is going to be, I think, believe it or not, I think this is going to be a pretty interesting discussion because we have, you know, all of us have not been on the show in a little bit and I know some of us have very different opinions and experiences with this flashback. But first, you know what, Alex, I want you to start your thoughts on.

[B]

The chapter just in case we lose my audio. Yeah, I haven't been on in a while, and the last couple times I had been on, I was sort of, I sort of let this flashback have it in terms of it sort of taking its time. It's sweet ass time. And also veering from, you know, Harold himself, because this is technically his flashback that then got hijacked by God Valley. And I wasn't having too much fun. And also, like, everybody's like, family is in it and you get to see, like, that their dads all have their own, the same devil fruit powers and shit. And it just kind of felt like a little lazy. But now, like, the last couple chapters, the last one in particular, like, really got me back. And I think once you kind of get to the fireworks factory, then things really start heating up. I know that, like the, the general consensus has sort of looked like oda's action sequences haven't really hit the mark lately as far as it looks like he's been sort of just cutting corners and nobody can really tell what's going on. And I think that this chapter in particular, these two last two chapters in particular have sort of been a nice return to form for him in a lot of ways. As far as being able to follow the action goes, as far as layout is concerned. I really like, I, I, if I remember correctly, last chapter had a bunch of really cool, a bunch of really nice panel layout that I really happen to like. And there's a Lot of really fun stuff happening in the panels. In this particular chapter, I kind of want to talk about the last. Not the last spread, but the page before that where, you know, everybody's crying. That page, I think page 20. I love this little, like, this little interstitial between this Roger and Garp panel and them facing off against rocks and we sort of see this Kachunk and we sort of see like one half of their face. I don't know. It's. That to me is like. It reads very cinematic and like, it didn't need to be there. This little tiny. This little tiny panel. And it feels like he has been really using all of the page for these last couple chapters. And it just felt. It just feels really good to read one piece like that again. It makes me really want to go back and read the flashback from the beginning on one go now. Because, you know, ultimately I think I was like, yeah, we know where this goes. Eventually Roger and Garp are going to have to fight rocks and they're going to kill him. Or maybe he'll get away, but, like, just get on with it. But now that we've gotten to this point and we've got the Domi reverse thing kind of coming back, that little callback to what's happening in the story currently, everything is sort of. Sort of makes sense to me now. I think this flashback probably could have been a little shorter, but in. In the grand scheme of things, it is really fun to see the rocks pirates just be characters and have little moments. Like Kaido in this flashback has definitely been more fun than Kaido has ever been in the series. And I don't think I. I don't think I'm alone in that.

[C]

No, he's. He's a silly little loser in this. It's great.

[B]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, he's. He's kind of great. Kind of. With that added context, I kind of want to reread Wano a little bit more now. I think the one thing that's sort of like the thing that's sort of bothering me, and this is just like the nittiest pick. When does Roger grow his iconic mustache? He just has like this little shit.

[A]

Stache to match his jolly Roger.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Is this just like his moment where he lost a bet and had to shave it off or something? It's like it's in between him growing it back.

[A]

No, he's still young. That's the thing. This is.

[B]

Yeah. Or maybe he's just like, this is the mustache that I want to Grow.

[C]

One day an aspirational mustache. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But he. Like, there's a panel, I think, on page. Yeah, page 12. Or is it 13, where he really looks like Ace. Like, he just looks exactly like Ace.

[A]

I don't know if you're looking at this on an iPad or not, but I think you're page numbers are a little bit different.

[B]

Oh, yeah. This is my desktop. I'm looking at it on a monitor.

[C]

But yeah, I mean, if you're referring to either this sort of one where he's taking like a jump swing at rocks, or the panel before the page before where he's talking into the transponder snail, I think both of those. It's like, very Ace. Like, to sort of prove your point.

[B]

There'S a lot of panels where he looks at Ace.

[C]

Yeah, it's nice. I mean, I think that might answer your question about why he doesn't have his iconic mustache. Just because they really want to hammer that. Hammer that home. How Ace like he is.

[B]

And there's a lot of Luffy in Garp, too, which is kind of fun to see in a lot of these panels too. Like, Dragon. I don't really see the resemblance too much, but he probably got his mother. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Standing in the forest, like, gripping his shotgun, panicking. Yeah, that's really another.

[A]

Garp is this very handsome man and just dragons this little gremlin where he's just like, the navy are just the tools of the government and they're conspiring to hold you down. And they're like, shut up, ugly.

[B]

What's funny is that, like, earlier this week, I did get spoiled on something, but it was. I would call it even a non spoiler, where the. The spoiler was literally, shiki announces the end of the rocks pirates. And I'm like, why is that a spoiler?

[C]

I mean, we know that. No shit.

[A]

What are you, a post on threads?

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah, the long and short of it is that I've been really jazzed lately with one piece and. Oh, I guess Polagram is really stupid. But it's. It's stupid in like, kind of a good way where, like.

[A]

Why the fuck.

[B]

Does he need an odobox?

[A]

Why does he need to exist? Is my whole thing. Sorry. Not to derail too much. I'm just like. I'm really getting sick of, like, everyone's important and all their kids are important.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And anyone who's ever been important.

[B]

That kind of sucks. I mean, like, the thing that I really liked about the last chapter was that, like, you see that Gonzwe has the Mr. 5 power and that Captain John has kids power. And it's like, oh, cool. These people, like, clearly are not related to. I mean, God, maybe they might be.

[C]

I mean, like, I don't think it's all the way there yet. Like, I'm not ready to be mad about it. But, like, I mean, after a while of this, it does sort of start to betray the spirit. Where it's like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Where it's like the. I mean. I mean, Luffy and Zoro just met in, like, some town, and they work together to become the best at what they do. Right. But, like, they were supposed to be just two fucking guys. Yeah. And, like. And, like, so a little bit of this is nice. Like, I don't. I haven't reached my saturation point yet. Like, I'll go into my thoughts on what's going on, but, like, I don't want this to become Star wars, where everybody has to be related to greatness in order to be great, because that's not what One Piece is about.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's my complaint. I've said it so many times, you know, and people are probably like, enough, enough. But I, I, I. I rolled a polo gram. And Is it supposed to be a pun off a hologram, too? I don't know.

[B]

Oh, maybe.

[A]

But I. It'd be one thing if I. Oh, it's supposed to be tongue in cheek. And I'm like, no, I don't think so. I think this meant. This is meant to be a hashtag hype moment. And I'm sorry if you winced at me saying it like that. It's just. It just feels like that. Isn't this cool?

[C]

Because I know that zone right here.

[A]

Because that's. Yeah. I mean, that's because it's supposed to garner a response like, oh, Marco's. That's so like, Marco's dad. That's how Marco got in the crew. It's like, in. I. This is not being played for laughs, I think. So I couldn't help but roll my eyes. I'm like, oh, my God. Does, like, everything have to. It's like. It's like the music. Music. Like the music biopic where it's like. And then they walked by, you know, a storm window and saw a guitar, and that was the moment, you know, it's like, stop.

[C]

I should make a song about this guitar crying. People will love it.

[A]

I don't know. I never seen Bohemian Rhapsody, and I really don't want to, but I'M sure that that movie's just full of that kind of shit. Oh, wow. You played a really good hand in poker there. That was a killer queen. And Freddie Mercury just looks off into the distance.

[C]

I have to watch approximately one musician biopic a year to talk about the Oscar nominations. They're all like that. Just to be clear. They're all that like that. It's. It's a wasteland of art in the music biopic space.

[B]

You don't need to make another music biopic as long as Walk Hard still exists.

[A]

I mean, Walk Hard should have killed them. Walk Hard. Walk Hard is too early, I guess.

[B]

Just like how Austin Powers killed James Bond.

[A]

The wrong music biopic died. Anyway, Alex, sorry, we derailed a lot from you.

[B]

No, I mean, no, that's it. I mean, yeah. Good show, Oda. Well done.

[A]

Now, Josh, I'm very curious to hear your takes because unlike Alex and I, you were catching up a lot today. In prep for this podcast, you read 12 chapters. So you had the experience of reading all this, like, in one go, the way it's probably really meant to be red. So I'm curious, like, tell me your thoughts. I don't know. I don't know if it'd be. I feel like it would be better to just ask you your thoughts over all of this flashback before going into your thoughts of the God Valley conclusion here. So I'm curious what your. What your takes are.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, Captain takes over here. Yeah, Real Josh heads will know by now that I don't like to read it week to week. So, like, when I'm not on the show, I'm not reading one piece. I just wait until the next time I have to be a one piece pundit and then I catch up. Which is why I have, I think, a more favorable opinion of things like Dressrosa compared to other people on the show because I read Dressrosa in one shot. And so a lot of the pacing issues that totally are probably understandable if you have to see it happen week by week, they weren't there for me because I got to set my own pace. So much the same way. The way that I feel about the God Valley flashback I saw, I don't really interact with the one piece fandom space at all. This is the most in that I interact with. But I saw whispers online of people being like, oh, it's bad. Oh, it's too much, whatever. So I did sort of go in with that, you know, having heard that gossip. So. But I went into it and for me Honestly went hard as fuck. I do think it's kind of funny that like, it did like fully just interrupt like the flashback that Loki was doing. That's a little awkward. And I agree that there are things that I think are a little too cute by half. I think Marco's dad is the worst of it. Like, Marco's not even fucking here. This isn't about Marco. Don't tell me about Marco. I don't want to think about Marco. We have enough guys to think about. So I think you do get sort of like bits and pieces that are too cute by half that sort of bring the overall quality down. But like, for the most part, I'm incredibly pleased with the God Valley flashback. I think that the God Valley incident is something that has been built up to us for a long time. The rocks pirates have been built up since Wano, if I'm not mistaken. So there's been a lot of stuff that we knew we were going to have to eventually talk about and eventually hear about. And I think sometimes those things can take on expectations there aren't reasonable or aren't able to be met within the text. But this, I think totally works. I mean, the God Valley incident isn't more than it needs to be. I think what's most important about it is that it sets the tone for things like Ohara and Egghead later. So we do see this sort of modus operandi of the world government of the elders in specific. So I mean, you. It completely plays it the way that you would sort of expect that to happen in real life. Like, why would you change up the play? We're going to nuke this fucking island off the map and murder everybody and we don't have to get fancy about it. So I mean, I think it's nice to sort of get that sort of pattern in here for the most part. I think that all of the characterizations we got of the people during this flashback especially, I want to say Roger, I think it's so cute how he's like head over heels for Shocky. Like, I didn't see that for him. I didn't see him being like a simple. But I think it was really cute. It was like really fun of him to do. I loved the stuff with Shaki and Rayleigh. I thought that was cute too. Rox, as a guy, really, really enjoyed him. I mean, it was nice to get his. I mean, like, you know, because it's. It's Blackbeard's dad, right? So like, you're already like, oh, probably A fuckhead. But then like, I thought his interactions with Harold were nice. I like how hard he tried to convince Harold not to trust the elders and the world government. I really felt for him like, you know, because like suddenly he's like, oh, I have a wife and child. And you're like, oh, okay, you know, whatever. I mean, we have to get to Blackbeard eventually, I guess. But I, you know, I actually thought it was pretty impactful when he gets still me reversed and has to like sort of lose his dreams basically. Like with Rodrigue and Garp having to sort of like put him out of his misery. I think it was a bit of tragedy that I wouldn't have expected for the dad of Rock Rock Beard, Blackbeard.

[B]

And so this is Flintstones equivalent.

[C]

Well, we're going to take over the world there Bond. That was really good actually. Good for you. But like all of these characters that are the generation before our contemporaneous generation, it's been, I think by and large I'm happy with sort of the backstories and like the personality they've been given. I think it's very rewarding to have Dragon, who we've only seen in bits and pieces as a revolutionary badass, be like a loser in the woods with a gun. Because I think that to have a revolutionary mindset you have to start from somewhere, right? So you see the horrors and the way the system fails. And I think at some point you have to be a scared kid about it. I think it was great how they I felt gave us just enough to tie in what we already saw from the Kuma and Ginny flashback. Just sort of knit it all together. The bits and pieces we knew about Kaido and Big Mom, I thought were woven together well. The little bits we got about Stussy were woven together well. So I mean, for me I thought it all hangs together really nicely. It was a nice break, I think from what's going on in Elbaf. I don't know how much longer it's planning to go because we still do have to get back to Harrold at some point to finish that off. So I'm like, I don't want to overstay its welcome but like at this point now when it seems like we're wrapping up the God Valley incident, I don't know, I think he cooked.

[A]

Wow. No, I, I'm glad you, you were on for this because I like hearing that opposite opinion. Not opposite, just like the, you know, the different perspective of it. And I think we always Kind of talk about, oh, maybe this will be better, you know, when it's all, like, together in one package here. Because I've been very back and forth. I feel like there's one week where I'll love a chapter, and the other week I'll be like, ugh. One thing I. Before I forget, because I know I'll forget things I want to talk about. I want to talk about Garp, because I think for years, people have been like, he sucks. Because he's content with, like, what the world government is doing, and he just, like, turns an eye to it. And now we kind of. We see his stance where he's like, I can't leave because, you know, I gotta look. Look after everyone else. And there. There's always these weird. I wouldn't say weird, but there's always these hot takes about Garp, you know, And I. Sometimes I can't help but kind of find it a little silly when people damn a fictional character. You know, it's like fictional characters are allowed to have flaws. But I am curious what your thoughts were on this, because I think this is a compelling arc for the story. It does kind of suck, because I'm like, no, Garp, No. It's the government's awful. And I. I don't necessarily believe that you can. You could fix an institution from the inside by just being the good one. But maybe that's the tragedy of Garp here. But I also wonder if this is the story ODA intends to tell, because Garp is still, like. He's a very lovable character. He's very funny and all that. And I wonder if this is gonna be looked as, like, oh, we should respect Garp for wanting to do this. But also, this is, like, you know, you talk about cartoonishly evil. This is the most evil cartoonishly evil can get. It's this. It's this demonic shadow creature that possesses people and turns them evil and also just revels in just killing others and wiping out races. It's. I truly wonder. I'm like, God, how is. Like, how is Garp going to sleep at night with this decision? But I think Josh had something he wanted to say about it as well.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, like. I mean, to find, I guess, sympathy for the devil here, like, to sort of, like, find nuance inside of acab, if, you know, if that's what we're presented with. I mean, I am touched that, you know, it's clear that Garp recognizes in this moment when he's, like, you know, in the rubble with Roger that like, if he's not there, more and more Marines will be, you know, ground up under the heel of, of of the elders and the world government. And it's, it's by and large the Marines, by and large, the Marines in this fictional story are people who like, probably think that they're helping people and want to be helping people. Right? But they are tools to protect capital and to protect Marijoa and to protect this class of people that are objectively evil. So but like, it's clear that Garp shows, knows that like, there is something about these peoples want to be a force for good, that he wants to protect them. And I think narratively that's important because that gives something. I mean, because like, I mean, for me, I think it's clear that if I think Garp's not going to survive the story, I think it seems like he wouldn't. But it gives an. It gives a way out for Koby and Smoker because it shows that there are these people in the Marines because there's lots of Marines that we know who don't fuck with the world government, don't fuck with the slavers. Like they don't, they don't, they don't fuck with all that. So there has to be a place for them to be. Like, we need to divest from the military, from the Marines and make a force that's actually here to protect people and not protect capital, not protect wealth, not protect slave owning perverts. So, you know, Garp is sort of the person who's going to set this track up for Koby and Smoker and the rest of SWORD, who are ostensibly wanting to use the Marines for their proper purpose of protection and keeping people safe and not just protecting capital and property. So I mean, for me, like, that completely disambiguates Garp's motivations for everything. Like, he's aware that there are ideologues inside the Marines. Again, as a fictional law enforcement entity, there are ideologues, there are kids, his own son, that probably believe in things, that they're here to help people and do the right thing. And I mean, I don't know. I think that's Garp down to me. That's just exactly what I would expect him to do. That's what I think Koby is thinking and that's what I think. I don't know. I guess post timeskip Helmeppo is thinking. That's what I think Smoker and Tashigi are thinking. I think all of those Marines that we Know aren't evil, are probably all thinking like this.

[A]

Yeah, I think it'd be one thing, I think I'd be down on Garp if it was more like, no, I gotta stay because pirates are bad. Navy good. Right. And like there are bad pirates, you know, we can't like act like there isn't. So I do respect Garp like for this at least. Like it's unfortunate but you know, but like we know the story. That's why you can't be like, oh fuck Garp. It's like, well we know Garp is the one with the Navy. He's be with the Navy. I always think about people were saying back then, it's like, oh, Garp didn't save Ace at Marineford, but he'll go and save Koby. And I think people are missing the nuance there. It's like pirates are criminals in this world. How could Garp justify saving Ace and give up his position of looking after the rank and file? It's nuance and you don't have to agree with it. But that's just stories. That's a story.

[C]

Yeah. And I mean, I think you expect to see Garp, I mean you saw him in this flashback like three chapters ago when they couldn't even tell what side Garp was on. When Emu possessed Saturn, even his own people didn't know he was going to attack. Right. So yeah, I mean to just shadowbox that hypothetical of why didn't he save Ace, it's like, oh well, he doesn't have the leverage. If he's in a situation like this where all of the strongest people are on an island fighting, then he has the leverage. So like going forward, if there's a for sure situation that's going to happen where pirates wage war on the cruel slave owning world government, then I think it's clear what Garp is going to do. What Garp and the other marines who have put themselves apart from the, from like the Marijoa body, what they're going to do. Yeah, I mean, yeah, for me this completely tells me exactly what sort of character he is.

[A]

Yeah, sorry, I think I lost track of what exactly I was gonna say. But yeah, I think it's just, there's just an ongoing nuance to Garp's character that you don't have to agree with. But at least he has his reasons. And I think, I think also I think Garp, well, Garp damn well knew what God Valley, like the whole God Valley thing was too. So it kind of sucks that he was complacent in that. But also, I think it's what you were talking about, Marine Fort. Like, he wasn't. He's not in a position of power to change it. I think if Garp were to. If Garp were to, like, they would retaliate to this. He would just be fired or locked up or something like that, and then he. He would be powerless. So the tragedy of Garp is him trying to fix a broken.

[C]

Exactly, yeah.

[A]

You know, a broken system. But meanwhile, this is Dragon's radicalization because Dragon will have no part of it. The thing is, Dragon has far less to lose, and we obviously know where this leads. Dragon starts up the revolutionary army. Where that goes, I don't know. Maybe Dragon's gonna be. He's gonna be leaving this island and he runs into the father of Lindbergh. It's the Lindbergh's. The Lindbergh baby.

[B]

I think it's interesting that, like, this also coincides with, you know, the origin of Ivankov, Ginny and Kuma, who end up joining the revolutionaries. Oh, yeah. We didn't talk about how, like, Kuma vanished Eris and Teach. Right.

[A]

Like, that's. Yeah, we don't see.

[B]

I don't think we've seen Aeris in the current story. So something must happen to her at.

[A]

Some point or it's a quote, a good friend, Jill, a mom in one piece. They're not long for this world.

[C]

No. And I do want to say, like, Oda, boys also have moms. Like, I'm thinking about, like, who gets moms in the series and it's just women. And I'm like, I just. Boys also have moms.

[B]

Yeah. Mars isn't the only place that needs moms, actually.

[A]

True. Well, I don't know. Newgate, you know, Newgate and fucking Graham here might prove otherwise. Some boys just might have two dads. One thing I'll say about Eris, what I like about her is she had some agency, even though she's. She was shoehorned in. And Oda's doing this a lot, which is kind of. It's like this is an important character. It's like, you thought of this character like, two weeks ago, didn't she? But, like, when, like, rocks attacked her, she's like, oh, no. Like, so, like, you were corrupt. Like, she seems, like, well informed. I mean, I think, you know, she's D as well. So I kind of like that about her. It wasn't just like, oh, my God, what's going on? Oh, oh, ow, my ankle. You Know, like, I was really happy to see her have agency. I think my biggest bummer with the whole. The. With the teach thing was why was this reveal in just a blurb underneath Rox's name when he was introduced in this arc? And I know, like, fans would be smart enough to, like, probably assume this was teach, but, man, that reveal would have hit big much later in the flashback.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I. You robbed your. I think, like, you robbed yourself of a real, like, oh, my God reveal. Like, like, one that I feel like I, I, I'm probably talking on my ass, but, like, one I feel like we haven't gotten in a while. Like, and I'm talking, like, the equivalent of, like, you know, Ace being Roger's son and, I don't know, like, Sabo being, you know, in dress, roses, stuff. Like, Like a big, like, oh, shit moment.

[C]

Yeah. Because we didn't. We didn't know before that, like, drop that rocks was Blackbeard's dad. Right. Like that?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I wonder if Oda was just, like, he looked. He looks so much like Blackbeard. People are gonna know, and it's just people wondering that. Yeah. And people are just gonna be saying it for weeks, so I might as well just get it out of the way. Yeah.

[C]

If I, If I had to guess, I think he just kind of wanted to gag us then because, like, I mean, I think that chapter was fine, but I don't remember it being being, like, chock full of goodies. So I bet he's like, let me give it to him now. But, yeah, I agree. It should have. It could have waited.

[A]

I don't want to take up too much time because, you know, your time is precious. But I. With this flashback, you know, because I said I've been back and forth, but I'm trying to think. It was like, why now? Why are we learning about this now? And I actually think because maybe we talked about. Oh, like, maybe Oda didn't know where to place this flashback, so he's doing it now. It's like. No, I think it's intentional because this is about the world government erasing history, wiping out a race, wiping out a culture, wiping an island off the map. This is going to play into what's currently happening in Elbaf. So. And so I think this is. This. This was the right place to do it. The pacing feels so frantic, but, like, this is all gonna be worth it. It'd be, I don't know, an example I could think of. It was just like, I remember a hunter Hunter in the Chimera Ant arc, there was like this whole episode talking about this ruler of this land. I don't know, whatever it was. And I thought it was gonna play into like the arc and it really didn't. It just felt random. And probably Hunter X Hunter fans are gonna come after me and explain why it was important. And it's been a few years since I watched but this, I'm like, no, like we need to know. Like this is the show. This is what the government is all about. This is what they're capable of. This was, you know, and this was Rox trying to tell people like, no, the government sucks. You know, it's like, don't get Elbaf involved. And now we're seeing well instead Harold opened the doors and now the government is going to come in and just fuck everything up for Elbaf I, they're gonna enslave the giants and just erase their history. And I think it's all gonna tie together pretty nicely here. I do like this era for one piece. I think this era is so ripe for this could be its own series. And I think I would enjoy it. Not so much that find out who everyone's famous dads are and I've talked about that enough. But I think the characters are interesting. I do like the rocks pirates. I feel like it's assembling like a Pokemon team of all legendaries.

[C]

I mean I, I, I, I, I texted Steve about this, but I really did love the lore that it's like just like the, the worst Davy back fights imaginable to, to get like the worst guys you've ever met, like on a ship together. I think that's really fun and I.

[A]

I, I hope we get some more.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

I just wonder if Oda thinks like, no, it's poison. Everyone hates it. I'm like, no.

[C]

Well, I think it's good to show that at least one legendary pirate crew wasn't made up of people who were fated best friends to meet forever. Because even in movies or whatever, you get these sort of one off pirate crews that are like, oh, these are my best disguise. Baron Omatsuri was willing to just suck countless people dry for his little zombie crew, right? So it's nice to see pirates that are completely transactional, completely there for their own benefit. They're not like found family at all. They're just sort of like unwilling co workers.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And I think that's good to see.

[A]

And I guess like, I think a lot of us were under expectations that oh, Rox. Was gonna do something so dastardly that everyone's like, fuck this, we're done. And I guess that wasn't necessarily the case. Everyone was just in it for themselves, and it was just.

[B]

And he just sort of seemingly turned on them, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. Because it was kind of just like everyone went there with the intention of being out for themselves. They knew, like, oh, no. You know, doing one last. You know. You know, it's. It's like the crew of, like, the. It's like Ocean's Eleven. Like, all one last haul and I'm out. You know, it's one last job. So it is very entertaining because. Yeah, like, one. Like, the straw hats are all about. You know, we just met under circumstance, but we're such good friends, and these guys are just.

[C]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah, it really does sort of highlight how. I mean, like. I mean, like, Sanji was just like, let me go. Right. And Luffy went all the way over to, like, fuck with somebody way over. Over his head to get him back. I mean, in whole cake. And I. So I think, like, it's great to have the opposite of that. Like, there's really, truly all kinds of pirate crews that are configured all over the place, and that just makes you enjoy the. The bond of the straw hats more, I think.

[A]

Mm. We haven't talked too much about, like, the whole Davey bloodline thing.

[B]

I. There's nothing to talk about because it's still, like. There's not. We don't really know much about it. It's still something that's sort of being talked about, like, pretty casually. Like, you know, eventually all this is going to make sense once we get a big lore dump. But, like, it doesn't seem like the Davey. Like, the Davey thing is a bloodline.

[C]

More.

[B]

More so than it is just a. Because it's like, you know, oh, well, now I'm part of the Davey clan. They welcomed me into their thing. So it's like the Stonecutters, right? Where, you know, even Steve Guttenberg is a Davey.

[C]

Even Steve Gutenberg. Yeah. That was one of the things I responded to least. I just don't, like, care about that. I think it works just as well. If you had said, oh, we've brought all of these slaves, including Ivankov and Ginny and Kuma, to the island. Also, we enslaved the inhabitants of God Valley.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's good enough. This. This, like, nonsense about, like, buccaneers and the Davey clan is, like, not my favorite part, but, you know, that this. It could pay off later, I guess. But for now, I I. I responded to it. Not very much at all.

[A]

And it could just be as simple as these were just people that opposed the world government and they were wiped out because of it.

[C]

Well, I mean, they're implying that it could be that. Yeah, I mean, they're implying that, like, the original guy, that Davy Jones, like, rivaled Emu. But I'm like, well, we already have a Joy Boy for that. Seems a little bit of a. Yeah, it's.

[A]

It so much. Yeah, it's like Pokemon Legendaries.

[C]

Yeah, it's a little bit of a double beat for me, but maybe it'll. It'll disambiguate later. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, we've been talking for a while about this, miraculously, for. For just a few of us. But I. I think I will say as much as I just. I love reading. I want to read one piece first thing in the morning. I think I gotta stop because I think I read it when I'm groggy and I'm like, what's going on? I'm sure. And then, like, I. You know, and then when I look at it again, I'm like, okay, this is actually fun, you know, like, the action is good, you know, And I think I just got to. I think I have. I got to hydrate in the morning or have some coffee and then read the chapter, because I'm not as harsh about it, but I still did not need to know who Marco's dad is. The end of God Valley. It feels like the craziest fucking prom is wrapping up, and you're like, I gotta go home with somebody so I could brag about it.

[C]

And to be so clear, I think I said this already. I'm not there yet, but I'm close. I need to stop hearing about famous parents. I have not yet reached critical mass, but I'm not far off. I don't want to hear about it anymore. I want more. I want more Namis that came from nowhere. I don't want to know. I don't want to know her family. I don't want to know anything about it. I don't want. I want more people who achieved greatness through their own efforts and their own life circumstances. And I'm about. I'm at capacity, but I'm still within. Within for sure.

[A]

And also, it's like, you know, it's like this could have been in an sbs. Yeah, I feel like. And trust me, I'm not that salty about the Polo Graham thing, but I just think it's so Silly. I'm like, did we really have to know?

[C]

Well, it was a sour note in what was a pretty cool chapter. Like Alex said earlier, there was some really cool page layouts. I thought, like, Rox's end was quite tragic. There was, like, a sadness to this. Cause, like, the whole setup was this sort of, like, triumvirate of Garp and Roger and Rox. And then, of course, course, you can feel that nobody wanted Rocks to go out this way himself, most of all, obviously. But Garp and Roger didn't want it to go out like this either. And so, I mean, there was a real tragedy there. And then, by the way, I'm Polo. Yeah, I hated it. You hate to see it.

[A]

Yeah, it detracted a little bit. Like, I think if it turned out, like, oh, yeah, that was Marco's dad. I'm like, well, I guess eventually he met Whitebeard. I don't know. It's just something.

[C]

Yeah. Eventually he meets Whitebeard. I don't need to know.

[A]

It's just more. It's just more food. It's just. I just. I see it just goldfish just coming up and just, om, nom, nom, nom, nom. I would have rather just see more scenes, cook a little bit more. But. But just. Overall, I think the God Valley incident is just. It's a great example of just the world government rewriting history. Because we just know, like, oh, Roxy was a terrible dude when it just. I mean, he was a terrible dude to the world government. And it's just an ongoing problem in this series. And just in the world is just. We have, you know, we have people, ethnicity, like, just, you know, just different ethnic cultures, entire countries that are just painted as demonic. And it's just what. It's. It's certain people that are in charge. They're controlling that narrative. And that's just what happened here at God Valley.

[C]

And I think narratively it's important because, you know, Ohara we saw. In a limited capacity. Right. Like, that's when you learn that. Oh, there's a. That's probably. I think that's when you learn that there's, like, this massive disinformation campaign within the government. And then, like, you see it in Egghead, but you're also in the middle of it, so you're not really seeing it holistically. So to see God Valley. Because, like, I mean, at least for me as a reader, like, when I'm in a scene, I'm with the straw hats, right? So, like, when I'm So like, to see it in this way that's in a flashback with characters who are like, by and large dead now. You are sort of able to see it as like a broad view. So you get all of these images of the government committing the same atrocities over and over again from different, like, focal lengths, I guess. And that's. That's important to sort of establish this is what they are, this is what they do. This is untenable. Unconscionable.

[A]

Yeah. It's just so funny that, like, you know, it's humorous. I would say, you know, for the world government, be like, oh, the God Valley incident. That's when Rocks D. Xebek did like a really bad thing. He went after all, like the navy and the. And the celestial dragons. And someone should just raise their hand and be like, why were the celestial dragons there? Like, oh, you don't need to know.

[C]

Sorry. Were they there for the slave tournament? Just asking.

[A]

That's not an important.

[B]

What?

[A]

No, I'm not answering that question. Yeah, it's, you know, it's kind of just like, why don't you share his opinions? Like, oh, no, we don't got to go into that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, the Marines. The marines were supposed to like, all go to a learn and lunch about this, but then it gets canceled by the higher.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Or a lunch and learn, I guess is what.

[A]

Well, I think that was a. That was a really great discussion and really looking forward to the fallout here. I'm looking forward to seeing Harold again eventually. The straw hats too. But I'm interested to see how this is all going to culminate into the end of this flashback as a whole. But if you guys don't have any other opinions, we could just move on to the next segment. You guys good? Sure, let's do it. It. This is the piece Together segment where we take your questions, comments, theories, and learn who our famous dads are.

[C]

Finally. I can't wait.

[A]

As always, we're gonna start this segment with disbease, which is our exclusive, you know. You know, leave that all in. I don't care. That's like if you. If you are a patron over on our Patreon page, you get first dibs getting all your questions, comments, theories in, and we gotta read them all. So I'm gonna start from the sleigh bell king, parentheses slay, and with the happy face with the D. The letter D. The wide.

[C]

The wide grin. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, classic. Yeah, we're starting. Starting with them. Apologies, I think. Yeah, you're gonna be. You're you were. You're the most recent one. God, I gotta speed this up anyway. Hello my fellow. Hello my fellow finders and keepers. I promise I won't read all these in David Lynch. Do any of you have. Do any of you have any routines or rituals before podcasting or streaming? When you do them to help you or just out of habit? Thanks and have a good week. Wow, interesting question. I don't have. No, I don't have any warm ups or anything for the one piece podcast. I'm usually coming from Sungwon's recording the let's Play channel. So I do let's play channel, drive home and just immediately just hop into my chair and start recording this podcast. I guess you could say the let's Play is kind of like a warm up to just keep talking for the day. 4 kids flashback. I will admit sometimes I tend to be like, oh, time to podcast. And I just hop on. So I don't know if you have any fun.

[C]

I do rituals, I do. Well, it's not fun, but it's not even a ritual really. But I usually take a shower before I podcast because I'm exclusively on podcasts that are about media and media analysis. So the shower is nice to gather my thoughts. I've joked about it being a ritual cleansing before, but it's just a regular shower. I like to get in an array of various beverages to enjoy because as you can imagine the one piece podcast recordings are quite long. So yeah, I mean, but like mostly like I do like to sort of like have like a hard reset with the shower.

[A]

Right on. Our next One is from remarkableipolo says, hey, rank and file. Given that G6 was involved in the God Valley incident, does that mean that our favorite boy Jerry was there? Did God Valley get moved to the south Blue and become Karate Island? Probably the only ever God Valley became another island theory anyone has. Do you know who Jerry is?

[C]

I didn't get a single word of what you just said to me. No, I'm sorry, I have no answer to your question.

[A]

Famous member of G6, Jerry. Do you know Jerry?

[C]

I'm not entirely sure I know what G6 is like if I'm seen so for real.

[A]

Well, I guess G6 is because GS are the naval bases, right?

[C]

That part I knew. But like, is this a particularly famous division? I don't remember this.

[A]

Oh brother. Let me look this up because.

[C]

Because I know that we read it in the chapter that it was a G6 and then like this, a cipher pole division. But I'm like I don't. I don't know. I'm just like, oh, that's more government people.

[A]

This is the fan. This is. This is a fan wiki. So that could just be a bunch of crap. G6, G6 Main Base Lakota and the Bofala Pentagon. The New World. The Bofala of Deez nuts, more like it. Primly known as Ishitani. Wow. Is an island in the New World and a desert island serving as the home of the Engi Kingdom. Sure. I don't know and I forget how this ties into Jerry, but Jerry's a really tall man who boxes.

[C]

Hell yeah, Jerry.

[A]

But then he tries to kick Sanji anyway.

[C]

Bad move.

[A]

Jerry. One of my favorite characters to piss off people with like, oh, you know, like Jerry. And people like, who the fuck is Jerry?

[C]

Yeah, because it sounds like you're talking about like a middle manager accountant when you say Jerry.

[A]

Yeah, he looks like one too, except he's really tall and he has boxing gloves. Our next one is from Abdul writes. Hello opp. It's been a long time since I wrote in. In fact, the last time was probably me calling in from when I was in the Caribbean during a call in show nine to ten years ago.

[C]

Welcome back, Abdul.

[A]

Yeah, it's quite a different podcast. It's just me and Josh. Yeah, no, I've. I've since seen and I've since seen a One piece movie with Zach and other OPP listeners in the city and gotten to attend a panel in Buy Steve's Art at Anime nyc. Anyway, fast forward to now. I got married a little over a year ago.

[C]

Congratulations.

[A]

And for our one year anniversary slash my birthday trip, my wife and I are going to Japan on Tuesday. It'll be the first time for both of us and a long awaited one for me. We'll be starting our trip in Tokyo, going to Kyoto, Osaka for a few days and then ending back in Tokyo. Besides the obvious Mugiwara story visit, I wanted to ask if there are any other One Piece centric attractions I should be checking out while I'm there. I'm bummed. One Piece Tokyo Tower is no longer a thing because I always wanted to go.

[C]

I'm devastated.

[A]

I always want to go there one day. But we are planning to go to Disneyland Tokyo so that should be fun. Other than that, is there any tips you all have for a first timer? Do's and do nots are welcome. Welcome. I'll have the pod downloaded for the flight, so thank you all in advance. Abdul, thank you so much for listening. To us for so many years. I don't know which movie you saw in New York, but I was probably with you, said Zach. I don't think I was there. And if you bought from me at this year's Anime nyc. Thank you so much for coming by. I don't know if we chatted, but if we did, I always like to know if someone even I was helping someone. I helped someone at Cons and someone says they listen to the podcast. I always try to. I want to know who our listeners are. So thank you so much. Luckily, I wish we had more people on to give you advice, but it's just Josh and I. But Josh and I have both been to Japan. Let's start with do's and don'ts. Josh, anything come to mind for you?

[C]

Okay, so you're going in the winter time, so this probably won't apply. I. I got a lot. Well, okay, so I'm. I'm not as tall as Steve, but I'm quite tall. And at the time that I went, I was quite blonde and a lot of the clothes that I brought were like, like short shorts because it was still kind of warm in Japan. So like I couldn't have been more of like, avoid this guy at all costs. Like I couldn't have been more visibly like stay away from, from the sky if I wanted to be.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So which, I mean, it was funny, I guess, like whatever. But like, yeah, I mean if you, I mean if you don't want people to like look at you funny, then just, I don't know, dress more normal. I don't know. I didn't have any like bad experiences when I went that I would be like, don't do this if you like. For me, I didn't own like a big suitcase, so I just bought one at the Don Quixote when I was there so I could put all of my, my things I can't talk about on an all ages podcast into it. But like, so like, if you don't own a big suitcase, just buy one while you're there. It wasn't that expensive. And then send it back. There are services. This was a big lifesaver. There are services probably at your hotel, I guess depending on what hotel you're staying at that can like, like courier your luggage to the airport, which was super great because like you have to get like across Tokyo to make your flight and whatever. And like, you know, you don't want to carry like three giant suitcases on a train packed with full of commuters. It's just it's going to be unpleasant for everybody involved. So, like, it wasn't that expensive to have it like courier did to the airport. So if you want to, like, save yourself a lot of, like, drama. Had a great experience with the service that I used. Yeah. I mean, I didn't have any, like, don't avoid this. I would probably learn, like, I would probably learn, like, really elementary Japanese just because, like, if you want to, like, order something at a cafe or like a restaurant and they don't have a lot of English or the menu isn't easy to sort of point at, it just might lubricate your experience. But, yeah, besides that.

[A]

I feel like I can only say so much. I will Recommend There's a YouTube channel called Abroad in Japan that I've watched a lot of videos of. It's a British guy named Chris who's been living in the country for a long time, and they might be a little out of date. And I think he's even said at some point, like, he's, he has some videos on dos and don'ts. I recommend checking out his channel. It's fantastic. Some things might have changed a bit, but I think some of the basic etiquette is still there, I think. And just, I think just be respectful.

[C]

Yeah. Don't be weird.

[A]

Yeah. Like, don't be loud and obnoxious. I, I, I think customer service is like, like king in Japan. I've had some great experience and I've, and I've, and I, and I feel like I stress some people out too, because, you know, I'm speaking English and I could tell, obviously English is a second language for them. And I think they're always trying to be accommodating. Meanwhile, I look the way I look, so they're like, oh, I don't want to angry this, this giant when I'm like, being cool with whatever. Like, I don't like chilling because I.

[C]

Have this lumbering giant in the middle of the cafe.

[A]

One time I just asked to, I asked to just change my hotel room room from, from like a, a single, like, king to like, you know, like two beds. And I felt like they, like, they were being way too apologetic. And I'm like, no, that's fine. It's explaining. I think I, I, I would look up Abroad in Japan. It's a great resource. Better than me, I think. Just I, you know, follow, I said follow street signs. I think in Tokyo, I think Tokyo, if you're using escalators, you know, I think right side is for, if you're just standing left side is if you need to go past people. Osaka, it's reverse, I think. Yeah.

[C]

Just follow the current of what everyone else is doing.

[A]

Yeah. I think it's just be respectful and it'll get you a long way. For the most part, you know, it's like, like I said, customer service is. They'll treat you well. I think. I don't know. Always just follow instructions. I think one of my biggest, my biggest shames is when I was in Nakano Broadway shopping and I thought oh, it's time to pay with my card. And I placed it on, I think it was a Suica card reader. And the guy from the start was like what are you doing? And I'm like, sorry. And I was like, it was my second time there too. So I'm like, I should know these things. But I just saw him like all right. I think that's a credit card reader. So I would say just, you know, always just like I think just follow the lead and in terms of like one piece centric things to do, I don't. You're not going to Kumamoto. So. And also that'd be that that's hard mode. That's, I think that's too extreme for your first time.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

It's. I, I'm so bad with. I think there's a lot of great food and half of it is just kind of things you stumble upon.

[C]

Yeah, I, I, I didn't do any like I didn't do any one piece stuff. I didn't do any like touristy stuff really. Like I didn't even get to go to like Harajuku. I just got too busy with like that cafe looks cool. Let me sit there for two hours. And then before you know it, your vacation's over.

[A]

I will say Osaka has some great second hand stores for reselling like anime merch like figures and all that that don't spend all your money just in Tokyo. I, I forget the area off the top of my head for Mosaka that is kind of like their own like they're like kind of just very anime centric stores. It's near their, that tower in Osaka. The, the radio tower, you know, I mean that area. Oh God, I'm so bad right now. But I'd say there's a, some great stores or two like Anime Jungle there. And you're, you're probably gonna need to get another suitcase. So just saying you should have a suitcase dedicated to just merch because there. But yeah, just have a good time and just. Just be open minded and just be respectful and it'll be a good time. Long winded answer, but thank you so much for writing in Polo. Cram writes in Marco Marco Opp Banger chapter. As always. Love how even more so than ever, Garp the GILF and Roger the DILF looked like Luffy and Ace respectively. I found the action a little hard to follow, but still really cool. I can't believe Oda actually named him Polo. Oh my God. Do you think Newgate and Polo were lovers? Have a great week.

[C]

I think we had a whole bit about it, so you came to the right place.

[A]

I will say the one thing that kind of bums me out about Oda's action is it kind of. It's becoming just like splash pages. Like that's just the big thing though. There was. There was more action panels in this. But man, I don't know. I think. God, I hate to be old man talks about old One Piece. I just remember Mr. One versus Zorro in the manga. And it's just. He just. He let that sizzle. He gave it time to cook and just. It was just beautiful action. So I'm with you. He's Oda. Action's not his strong point. But man, does he like when he saves it for these just these impact splash pages. They do have so much fucking weight and grit to them. But it. The. The step by step like is not really. The process is not really his thing. It's not his strong suit. I don't know if there's anything else you wanted.

[C]

No, I mean, yeah, I agree with what you said.

[A]

All right. Lord Palmelston Pit the Elder says, is Oda going to retcon Gloriosa and make her rouge? And she just went into a coma and aged terribly after giving birth to Ace. This would explain the plot hole of how Gloriosa survived her lovesickness. And the only time we canonically see Rouge was part of her face in the manga. And the other times we seen her was mostly silhouetted and looks very similar to young Gloriosa. And they even have the same type of flower in their hair.

[C]

I hate. I hate to be this guy. All of the women that Oda draws look the same. The fact that they might have a passing resemblance means nothing to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If I have. If I have to guess, I think it's sort of like how like Eris appeared literally out of nowhere off the page. And that's what's gonna be Rouge. I don't think that it seems like he doesn't have to retcon.

[A]

No. We did see more of her in the manga.

[B]

We.

[A]

She wasn't just a silhouette when Ace was born. There's the shot of her cradling baby Ace. We see a lot more of her in the anime which is more like implied filler. But I don't that it just be too. It's too much. It's too. I think part of the. The gag is just Gloriosa just can't. Just can't get a man. But it's the thing like she's a 10 in any other circumstance, but she's. She's just swimming with sharks who all look the same and are also so true.

[C]

The burden of being a 10 surrounded by tens. Yeah, I relate.

[A]

I think that would be really stupid.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he has to. You can just be like, okay, this is just another lady that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That hooked up with Roger or whatever.

[A]

Sometimes you date outside your circle and I think it's a good thing. I encourage. Keeps you grounded. Priminotar. Hey Opp. Now that rocks. Now that the rocks part of this flashback seems to be finished. Who was your favorite Glup Valley Shito. Though I'm picking Gil Bastar because every panel of him looks like he farted and no one realized it was him. Who's our Glup Shittos? I mean like, is Shiki a Glop Shito? I.

[C]

He got his own movie.

[A]

Yeah. It. He. He's too well known. He's not obscure enough. That's the thing. Like everyone in the Rocks Pirates is so high profile. So it's. You know. But I think like Gilbestar is like one of the few characters that didn't really have much dialogue. Like Barbell had a few lines but didn't say much. Oh God. I don't know if I have any random ass favorites here.

[C]

I'm gonna reframe this question because I only remember characters who are of note. Sorry. But like I like. I'm going to reframe this question slightly and say which character did I enjoy the most during this flashback? To which I say I already spoke about how I enjoyed almost all of them except for Polo. But the one that I enjoyed a lot was shocky because I feel like she was just really fun. And there's this great like Oda box or whatever that's like. I'm paraphrasing but it's something like, oh, the Kuja pirates, they have the love of all of the salty Dogs of the Sea and they're trading. There's even, like, a bounty for their posters to be passed among pirates. And I'm like, it sucks to see people living your dreams. So it's nice to see. I liked her in this. She was really fun. I liked her.

[A]

Yeah. The first chapter that introduced these characters into this flashback. I really enjoyed Shakky and Goriosa. I don't know. Goriosa is kind of becoming my new Margaret, where I'm like, I don't know. She's beautiful. She deserves more. So. I don't know. I do. That's the thing. Like, all the other characters so well known that I can't think of them as Club Shidos. I mean, like, Chosa is pretty damn important to God.

[C]

I. I did. I did. Like, the moment where, like, I don't know if this is a meaningfully different character, I guess. I don't know. I don't care. Like, we're like. Where, like, Stussy was, like, trying to get Whitebeard's attention, and he's like, I don't care about you. Leave me alone. And then, like, she keeps being like, I don't know, like, we. We had seen before that, like, she proposed. She, you know, has the son of Whitebeard or whatever. But it's just funny to watch him, like, shut her down. I liked that. It was amusing.

[A]

I don't know. Glorious is pretty entertaining. I think she's gonna be my pick for now. And Wispy writes, hey, oop. Do you believe Rox is actually dead in the present day? Would you be upset if he was revealed to be alive? Is Rockstar ever going to be relevant to Rocks? Has anyone. Anyone's arc and prediction been foiled yet? I don't even know what my arc and prediction was like, talking Elbaf, it feels like. I don't know. Elbaf feels like it's going to be, like, a loss for the straw hats.

[C]

I think that's interesting.

[A]

This could kind of be like, the penultimate arc before, like, this big final battle. I will say, because I think in any story, kind of your main characters kind of have to be, like, at their lowest before, you know, we, you know, things pick up again and you reach a climax. Is Rox actually dead? Let's hope. I just want Blackbeard to have agency. That's the thing. I. I want Blackbeard to be his own character.

[C]

I think it is. Narratively, I don't know if vital is the word I would choose. I think it's narratively important that Rox is dead. I think if he's alive, it undoes pretty much everything that I cared about with regards to Garp and Roger and Rox's roles as this triumvirate of a previous generation. I already talked about how I enjoyed this sort of off the page sorrow that you could feel in that final fight with the Domi Reverse. See Rox, if he's not dead, it sort of takes all of the wind out of those particular sails. I think they have to kill people at this point. That's why I'm like, there are people that were going to lose, I think before the story ends. I think Garp is one of. I think pretty much anyone who's like old has to die for the new world to be born. So yeah, I mean, if he's not dead, I think that's a big problem.

[A]

How did you feel about Saul being alive? I forgot if you ever really talked about that.

[C]

I mean it was. We got Robin's haircut back, so for that it's worth it.

[A]

You deserve. Yeah, he deserves to be alone.

[C]

Yeah, we. We got her iconic bangs back. So it's fine. Yeah, I mean I. I don't think that. I don't think that Saul is quite as narratively important that he died. I'm trying to think of other characters like, yeah, like this, this is obviously not as big of a deal. Like if Roger is alive somewhere, that's a big fucking problem. But like if. Pretty much if there any character we understand to be. Because people don't die in one piece. So like anyone who is dead, I think is dead for a pretty narratively vital reason. And if they end up being not dead, I think that you have done a bad thing to your story.

[A]

Well said. All right, all right. That takes care of this piece. We did get some emails, haven't. I wasn't on last week's episode, hopefully. I'm just covering ones that haven't been answered. If I missed, if any that have like fell into the ether and have never been responded to, I apologize. Feel free to send those in.

[C]

Again, email Zach in particular. It's Zach's fault.

[A]

It's usually Zach here. But I'm going to start with this one. This one is from Seth and he writes hi opposite. When the one piece manga eventually reaches its conclusion, I suspect that Shueisha will have a strong desire to keep publishing op related content of some sort. Like they've done with Dragon Ball super and Boruto for example, what type of spin off sequel, etcetera do you think we are most likely to see and what would you each personally be most interested in? Personally, I would love to see some previously unseen slice of life stories of the straw hats daily life at sea even. Excuse me. Even if it has to be non canon to fit within the existing story. Thanks, Seth. I did mention earlier, I think like the. This era of the Roger Pirates is just ripe for spin off material and it's the one I'm most, you know, I'm. It's has the characters I like the most. Your thoughts, Josh?

[C]

You guys are gonna hate this answer. None. No more. There's nothing I want to see. I. If there was to be. I think you're. I think you're right listener that like Shueisha is obviously going to want to keep making money off of One piece if, I don't know, like, if Oda wants to like keep making. I don't even know how this would work because it's not like a sort of thing that makes sense to create. But if he were to keep making like color walks, I would enjoy those. If it's like narrative, I'm done. There's nothing else of one piece I'm going to want when this is over.

[A]

I like that answer.

[C]

Yeah. Because that gives me sort of the spin off feel. What I love about these illustrations is that they've gone to a polar bear watermelon based island and they're doing polar bear and watermelon stuff and it's like, oh, that's sort of cute. But I don't have to know about it it in any way that's like. That would sort of tell me anything. I really can't think of any other material I would want to see.

[A]

I don't know, you could maybe accuse us of it being like a cop out answer because I don't know, the way I feel is sometimes I'm like, you know, everything has an ending. And especially in this day and age, like where it's. Sorry. And this is two guys working in the entertainment industry where I don't think there's a whole lot of opportunities for new stories and new narratives. Right now we're seeing so many reboots and just the constant use of well known IPs. I. Dragon Ball is one of my favorite things. When I got into Dragon Ball, I knew it ended already, you know, and it was kind of just like, you know what? Enjoy this while we got it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that was one piece too. Like. Yeah, there's so many, you know, things we hear about that we're never gonna see the story of. But, you know, your imagination is a wonderful thing, and sometimes things are just best left to your imagination instead of finding out, you know. Trafalgar Law met the dad of both Penguin and Chachi, and that's why Penguin and Chachi are on the crew.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know. Like, for me, I think One Piece is. I mean, for my money, I think One Piece is the greatest adventure story that I know of.

[A]

Right.

[C]

It's the one that has the most personal meaning to me. It's the one that I think is the finest in terms of meeting all of the themes that it sets out to address. But I would love there to be. Be a new adventure story by somebody different. Like, I mean, Oda doesn't have to stop working if he doesn't want to. But, like, I mean, I want, like, there to be a new adventure story for new people to enjoy. Like, I mean, my time on this earth is finite. It doesn't have to be full of One Piece. I want there to be new things for new children to enjoy. I don't know. I'm sorry, that's not, it's not a fun answer. I just don't have anything else I want to see.

[A]

And I think, like, there's so much One Piece. Just go back and do it. I, But I could see them, like, oh, I can see Law getting a spin off.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But even though that's such, like, a departure from, you know, like, the tone of the straw hats, I, you know, Ace, you know, the Spade Pirates is another. Because it's popular characters. They're gonna, if it's Showisha, they're gonna want to go with a character that's a hook. And I could see it with Ace or Law, but me personally, I wouldn't mind seeing some Roger Pirate stuff. But I just, I don't know. I, I, I'm, I'm full. You know, I'm, I'm good with just what One Piece has given me. So. Sorry if that's a little. It's a cop out there. But, yeah, not alone there. It's.

[C]

Sorry, this is Old Man Hour.

[A]

Yeah, it's, it's truly old. Old, old men. And I always think, oh, God, like old men in the grand line. You know, the old man in the grand line is how I feel. Because also, yeah, I'm getting older, and I've been a One Piece fan for over 20 years. It's, it can't follow me to the grave, but. Okay, okay. All right, so then we have another piece together here. This one is from Cole. He writes. Hey, folks, thanks for all your insights every week. I had a couple different thoughts recently. I'd love to hear yours on number one. Could D possibly stand for Davey? I thought it was interesting that in 1164, Emu repeatedly referred to Rox as Davey, despite Rox clarifying earlier that he wasn't Davy Jones. And with the new mystery of Davey's promise, could D represent all those who have somehow inherited Davey's will. Why don't we just start answering that? At first I could see it happening, but I. I don't know, like, I.

[C]

Guess, man, I mean, you're gonna hate this answer, too. I. I think the will of D, I think, is one of the least compelling parts of one piece. Like, you can just name anybody D. Right?

[A]

Oh, boy. This is. This is truly old, old, old piece.

[C]

Yeah, I don't care. Really.

[A]

I hate to be this guy because it's not compelling. Maybe it's not the best podcast because one piece thrives on the Internet with theory, crafting and all this stuff and all this deep lore explanations. It's the part of one piece I care about the least. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, seriously, no, Shade, if you're a big theory, theory crafter. Like, we often get questions about people, like, asking what my predictions, our predictions are. And I'm like, I don't. Yeah, that's not how I take in the story. I don't try to predict anything. It's just not what I do.

[A]

I. I remember a co worker a year ago, and I could tell he was just into, like, theories and probably watching YouTube videos. He's like, how is Luffy gonna defeat Kaido? Like, but, you know, but look at. How's Luffy gonna defeat him? And I said, he's gonna punch him really hard. That's what he's gonna do. I mean, I wouldn't have predicted Looney Tunes Gear five, but then I would expect him, like, well, I guess he'll have an upgrade or something. But, like. Like, there's no, like, oh, but like, Kaido the hockey and all that. I was like, there's no science to it. Luffy's gonna punch him really hard. At an emotional peak. Yeah.

[C]

Again, like, seriously, like, no, Shade, if that's the way you engage with the story, it's just not how I do it.

[A]

It.

[C]

And so, like. And so, like, when, like, the willow, like, to me, it's just, like, it's just a middle name. Like, does it. It doesn't have a. If it was like, people were all born with, like, the same birthmark. Okay. I'm like, maybe that would be more interesting. Right. It's like something that is just part and parcel of your being. But a name is a name.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If I wanted to, I could change my middle name to D. It's. It's. Anybody would have that power. So, like, it's just not a concept I'm compelled by. So I don't have. Have an answer to what I think about it, I guess.

[A]

And it's. And it's strange because we've had people in the Navy with the middle initial, so it can't just be like, oh, you have a. D is your middle name. We got to execute you. So it was more captivating when it was first name dropped. Like, when it was first mentioned in drum and then alabaster, and we only knew, like, a few people, but now it's like, it's. It is kind of overdone, I think. Like, when Law was revealed to be a D, I was like, are we. Are we getting a little carried away too far? Yeah, I. Yeah, it's. It's. I'm sorry to reveal in, like, the 16th year doing this podcast, I'm like, yeah, I'm not too crazy about it. Also, it just. That's never been my strong suit. And I. What I respond to with One Piece has always just been the characters, the relationship between them, the. The unique art style. Because one of the things that just drew me to One Piece was just it. Just it. Because I. I love my western cartoons, and I like anime, and One Piece was such a great blend of that I was drawn to that. Everything else came afterwards. Like, I just loved the connection of these characters and just the. The trauma they went through and the high. The emotional highs of arcs and. Yeah, I don't know, like, the other. Like, the. Like, the Lore was kind of just a plus, but I'd say everyone's different, and I'm not gonna knock anyone. Yeah, totally. But I.

[C]

No, I.

[A]

But I also. But I also don't. Not that I run into this, but I think, like, if anyone is trying to pitch One Piece with the Lore. Yeah. One Piece's pitch used to be it's a pirate and a straw hat, and he wants to be the best part of them all. And he could stretch like, rubber, but he can't swim. Like, it used to be. It's like, it feels like. I don't know. Do anime and manga still kind of have that pitch? Like, one sentence like, here's the gimmick. And like, that sounds kind of interesting. I feel like nowadays people are like, well, okay, so it's about this character. It was actually a descent of this person, and he's got to go around and finding all the blahba da blahs and hoobity doos. And I'm like, yeah. I'm like, why?

[C]

Yeah. One thing I just want to add really briefly to what you said is because I absolutely agree. I think the look is so amazing and unique. I mean, love it or hate it, I guess. And I mean, it's. The characters are like the crown jewel of One Piece for sure. But I think what One Piece does that. No other. Even like shonen manga of my generation because I'm oldest fuck, right? But like, even the ones when I was a kid, what I think One Piece sets apart is that like, it's like, it's the struggle of people against each other. Like in other anime, like in Naruto and Bleach, they were fighting, of course, and there were even some fights that were very good. But like, like One Piece uniquely felt like a struggle. And I think what's important is that pretty much every arc you have people who are struggling futilely. Like, like, I mean, just off the top of my head, like, I mean, I always think of the reason why Alabaster is my favorite is there's this whole bat background that's completely background of a fucking civil war in the middle of the desert where like this, you know, the Kosa is like this, this. This revolutionary who's trying to like, do the, you know, what's best. And he's struggling against not only the King, but also Crocodile. And it's like what One Piece does so special is. Is just this struggle of people trying to achieve their dreams or what they believe in. So off topic, I understand, but like, the lore just it, like, I mean, like, I love lore learning about the world, but like the, The. The. The. The nitty gritty of the lore isn't really why I come back.

[A]

Yeah, it's more like a bonus. I feel like this could be a whole podcast. Just talk about this. But I like to actually answer your question, not just be poo poo on it. I'm. I'm curious now that especially because, like, Davey Jones is apparently like, you know, very the rival to Emu and probably his equal in terms of influence and strength. It's interesting, but I feel like it's almost kind of just. It's like, oh, but we. And I think you mentioned this earlier, Josh, but I thought, Joy boy, was that so, you know, I don't know. The thing is, with One Piece, we've had so many, like, breadcrumbs and just like. And just little bits of mystery drop through the series, and now we're getting the answers to them. And it just feels like. It feels like too much of a rush and it's kind of. I don't know. Like I said, I think this is a conversation that really deserves a lot more time. And I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. I think this is just the week where you pick two people are like, I don't know, man. We're in it for the wonderful characters and the beautiful art work. Everything else is just a plus. But they do have another question here. They said. I've also been thinking about what may be Blackbeard's most famous scene thus far. Back in Jaya. Back in Jaya, when he declared that people's dreams never die, what prompted him to say such a thing? Could it be that as a member of the Davey clan as a child. Oh, sorry. Could it be that as a member of the Devi clan, as a child of Davies. A child of Davies. Will slash promise was somehow instilled in him when he said that. Was he thinking of a specific dream? Davies? Well, we don't know the answer for that. But I will say, what's so great about that scene about Blackbeard is like, yeah, he's a bad guy, but he's still, like, he's similar to Luffy where he's.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

He's a dreamer. And he believes in just the romance of adventure and just following your dreams and doing whatever it takes to accomplish them. It's just. It just doesn't line up with Luffy. Yeah. And that's what's so great about it.

[C]

My killjoy answer to this question. I'm so sorry to do this. I mean, it's just that he's Luffy's narrative foil. That's why Blackbeard is compelling at all, is because we get to see the anti Luffy in all effect. Right. Like, he has had the same sort of blustering ability to craft his reality from nothing. And.

[A]

That'S such a great phrase right there, what you just said.

[C]

Yeah. And so I agree with you, listener, that, like, yeah, when I think of Blackbeard, I think of Jaya, too. Like, I mean, all of his stuff on full alert, I don't think about at all. And this is why I hope we don't sort of ruin that purity of Blackbeard. Because it is, I think, interesting to see somebody who has a similar worldview to Luffy, but without Luffy's sort of inherent ability to want to empower people to take control of the circumstances. Like, if Blackbeard has all the same attributes, but he wishes only to oppress and control, then that's an interesting balance. And I hope that Oda doesn't lose that going forward.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah, for sure. He's probably also including his dream and it might be related to the Davy clan. And like I said earlier, I want Blackbeard to have his own agency. I don't want to just be like, oh, he's the reincarnation of Rocks or some. Or Rox is possessing him or something like that. It's just that, I don't know, it's like Blackbeard's just like a little more chaotic and messed up. But, like, about Blackbeard is like, yeah, anyone should chase their dream. Mine's just this, you know, And I know, I think we've talked about this in the past where he's like, oh, I want to turn Full Lead into a country. And some people, and I think some members of the podcast are like, that all really, then that's it. But who knows? That could just be a front for something. But I think that's what is to it. Like, it's. It's not necessarily making a villain sympathetic, but just, you know, it's. They. They're ambitious too. You know, it's. And I like that. I don't like, God, even I was weeks ago saying, like, oh, I would. I wish Rox was just a bad dude. And I think maybe I'm like, I've changed my mind, obviously, because that's not what he is. This doesn't make Blackbeard sympathetic. It just makes him interesting.

[C]

It gives him roundness to him. I mean, this is going to go totally against what I just said about theory crafting what's going to happen. But I think what we're talking about now is why I think the series sort of has to end with Luffy and Blackbeard. Because, like, Luffy and Emu could be any show, not one piece. Luffy and Shanks will happen. I think it needs to emotionally happen. But Shanks isn't. Doesn't fill that role of, like, final obstacle. I think it has to be Luffy and Blackbeard because they're meaningfully emotionally opposite in a way that Shanks and Evil aren't.

[A]

Yeah, I'm. I'm really hoping for it. And I think with the Harley, with the. The mural, it makes me think, like, oh, everyone's gonna be fighting Emu. I was talking with friend of the show, Daniel Dockery. He kind of hit me up out of the blue, and we're just like sharing her one piece opinions. And I don't want to speak for him and throw him under the bus, but he said he's like, I don't know. Daniel was not really, like all that captivated by Emu because Emu was introduced so late into the story. And I feel like Oda's been doing that more and more. And like, it's like, I don't know. It's like, I. Yeah. And I think there's something you just said, like, Luffy fighting Emu. It's like, it. Yeah, it's the big bad good and versus, you know, good guy versus, like the baddest guy around. I love the idea of the Straw Hat Pirates going against the Blackbeard Pirates because it's. It's. It's the opposite, you know, And. And I'd rather see two people who had to start from nothing and work their way up and fighting each other instead of just, you know. Yeah, of course. Pure evil. Like, of course you're gonna beat, fight, and defeat pure evil. I just like this. It comes down to just two people, and it's about who wants it more and who's stronger. And also, I want all the Straw Hats to get individual fights.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

Bring it back.

[C]

You know? Absolutely. I would see Luffy and Blackbeard not necessarily, like, making an alliance like they did with Law, but like, Luffy and Blackbeard have a mutual enemy with Imu for. So I think eventually, however long this takes, I think eventually they are going to be on functionally the same side against Emu and Luffy and Shanks is their own thing that is their own business. But I think there's no way to end it that isn't Luffy and Blackbeard. They are two complete opposites. They're both ideologues. I think it has to end that way. I hope.

[A]

I just think it's more of an interesting story than just, oh, the. The destined hero of good versus Evil. I don't know. I just. I wish I could speak of this more clearly, but I just. I don't. I just like Blackbeard as just the whole idea of him. And it goes back to Jaya. Like, just what a. What a great introduction to this character who turns out to be like this huge villain and it's just so unsuspecting. It's wonderful. And I don't know I'd be more invested in that because Blackbeard's been around longer, you know, and Emu. We still don't know what Emu is, but hell, I'm not really known for predicting one piece. I'm kind of glad, you know, because it ruined the series for me. If I saw everything coming, I don't know half the shit happening in the series now, I would have never suspected so. But I kind of hope that each just. Oda. Just like you don't have to keep adding all these ingredients to the. To what's already just a great. Like.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like what's already like a. A very tasty broth on its own. You don't have to overload it. Yeah. You know, but anywho. And then our last one here. Sorry, the. The way your name is spelled out, I don't know how to pronounce. So I do apologize. And they might have written before I were recording. They said not sure I was doing something wrong or my last two emails not to be read on air. I apologize too. I haven't listened, so maybe they just didn't get around to the email portion of the piece together. So don't fret. I don't think you did anything wrong. There just might have been a timing issue. They said. I. I'll just add that doing a film adaptation of something we haven't gotten to see in the manga would be interesting. Rocky Port Incident, Xebek's Davey Back Fights, Aces light novel material, etc. I'd be curious to hear other ideas from everyone on such movie ideas. P.S. the Kuja cast and Davy Back Fights rule onto the six hundreds. I believe this is someone who's listening to the podcast from episode one onwards. And feet shuffling is loud with the cat. Yes, we have podcasting to do.

[C]

Important nerd business.

[A]

Yeah. Adorable cat on you right now. Oh no.

[C]

I'll go ahead and take over.

[A]

Just you and Josh. Sure.

[C]

I think that the Rocky Port Incident would make a fantastic movie because like until now we've had this sort of like these are like the. The.

[B]

The.

[C]

Do kids still know about Calvin and Hobbes? Like the. The. The Noodle incident of One Piece. Right. You had.

[A]

I think that some. Alex's. Alex or Joey. I have said before.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean you've.

[C]

You've. You've had the God Valley incident and the Rocky Poor Incident that are like in hushed tones more or less in the Manga as these incredible acts in history. And I think that after seeing the God Valley flashback, I am inspired or hopeful that there would be a good resolution or a good raison d' etre for the Rocky Port incident. I think that that would be a great idea because I don't know that it has to be in the story. We know that Kobe is now like hot. Like hot. Kobe is real. I don't know that I need to know why in the source material. But I would love to see it in a movie where the stakes are lower for me. So yeah, I think you've knocked it out of the park. I'd love to see a Rocky Port movie.

[A]

Yeah. I apologize for the upteenth time about not listening to last week's episode. So I guess this was brought up about doing a spin off movie because that's all the rage net. Well, all the rage now is doing these arc movies. Not necessarily Shoisha, but Demon Slayer, hugely successful movie. That's a canon story arc. And I just saw the Chainsaw man movie, the Reze arc. And I think it's just, yeah, like if you want to see that canon arc, you gotta watch the movie. And I guess the TV series is just gonna continue off of that. That it's like Transformers. So I'm kind of used to that. And I think some people are traditionalists and they're like, no, no, no, you can't do that. One Piece would never. But also I think some of us never thought that One Piece would go seasonal. The anime. And now it is just strictly talking entertainment industry expert talking here. Shoisha is like, is definitely looking at the success of these movies. You can't tell me they're not looking at the success of these movies and being like, should we be doing the same thing? Because yeah, like One Piece movies will do well and they. They do okay in Japan. As far as I know. No Film Red was a huge success. But I think that just. I think Film Red had its finger on the pulse on things that were popular.

[C]

Vtubers.

[A]

Vtubers Otto tapped into the cultural zeitgeist and it did well. And I think, you know, because Film Gold wasn't as hot. But I think that was also when Pokemon Go just took the world by storm and Stampede did okay. But there's not urgency to see these movies because it's just, oh, you know, nothing. They could entire as much as they can in the canon, but we all know it's not really gonna mean anything. Even though Stampede kind of just dropped a bunch of Things. Important things that would wind up happening later in the manga or Film Red too. Because Film Red is when we see when Roger and Rayleigh find shanks. That still hasn't even happened in the manga. That's about to. I wouldn't be opposed to, like, if, you know, if they're just doing spin offs. Why not? But I think the big thing everyone saying is, like, you can't do a One Piece movie without the straw hats. I don't know.

[C]

You can calm down. There's so many. There's so many guys I like outside of them. At this point. You can.

[A]

I could see them shooting their shot with this. I do think the God Valley incident is, like, ripe for a movie adaptation. Like, this is perfect, and you could really expand on this a little bit more and give characters more time to cook. But I. I think it would just mess up with the anime. But I don't know if they would do like a. They did it with, like, Dragon Ball. Like, Battle of Gods Resurrection F were then adapted into the TV series. Except, you know, adapted terribly, mind you. But I'm trying to think, you know, because these just did, like, there's a back stuff. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I was like, I could think of. I'm like, this is what I want to see. Nothing's really coming to me. Yeah, I feel like Rocky Port. I think we're gonna get a little, like, when Koby reaches his, like, pivotal moment in the series. And I don't know what that looks like, whether that's like, taking on Luffy or something. Like, Kobe's gonna have this big moment before the series ends. And I think that is when we're gonna cut to, like, not like a full flashback, but like, many little, like kind of like what Kuzan and Garp had. We're gonna get that with Koby. We're gonna see the Rocky Port incident there. One Piece is a long series. You know, we were talking about earlier how we don't need to see spinoffs and we'd rather just, you know, and. And. And with that being the case, like, with One Piece, like, One Piece has plenty of movies.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I'm.

[C]

I. I was about to say, like, in order, like, to tie these two questions together, like, if you wanted to keep. I mean, this, I guess, doesn benefit Shueisha's publishing industry, but if you were to keep making One Piece movies, I would keep going to see them. If it was just like, oh, this takes place somewhere. Post timeskip sure. They go to an island that's just about chickens or what. I don't care. Whatever. They fight another. I don't care. You could do as many of those as you want. I don't care about those.

[A]

The problem is filler arcs are dead now. And, and like, I mean not like there isn't money that goes into tv, but like a lot of money has to go into film producing and they want to make that money back. Like movies are made to make money when it comes down to it. And I. And I don't think that's a guarantee. Like, just like the one piece, like a nice quiet day at home with the straw hats is not gonna just rake in the dark.

[C]

Oh no, absolutely. I'm just saying, like, what would formalistically work for me in terms of a spin off without interrupting anything? It would be just like movies where they're like that are like 95 minutes long and they're fighting a guy who. Everybody exists in one piece. A guy who is a mouse. I don't care. That's what I want to see. Right.

[A]

A guy who is a mouse. It's just not going to happen anymore. They saw how successful. No one's gonna just see how successful Demon Slayer was and just be like, well, nope, we're just keep doing our own thing. No, no, no. They want to make money.

[C]

So I mean, I think the, I think the optimal way to sort of balance this sort of like canon fill out while also getting people in seats. I think listener, your idea of like Rocky Port or if there's other incidents that I just don't even remember then like sideways mentioning. I think that's probably the only way you could do it. Yeah, I don't know for sure.

[A]

All right. And just bear with me just a little bit longer. We got one more segment and piece together and then we'll. We'll take it home. We're gonna go over to bluesky and we're gonna read your questions using the hashtag blueskypea. Though some of you didn't use it, but you replied to the post I made anyway, so how did we talk?

[C]

So much for two people.

[A]

I know, right? Well, we haven't been on in a while and like, you know, you and I like wax poetry and stuff and you know, and Alex had some mishaps here, so we had to. There was a lot of waiting in between certain portions of this recording. But let's get to Blue skypie here. See, Luke writes, if you had a. If you had to pick a dinosaur Type Zoan, Devil fruit. What dinosaur are you picking? And I'm using dinosaur in the colloquial term. What does that mean?

[C]

Oh, like the colloquial dinosaur, I guess, is like just anything prehistoric. You don't have to be correct about it. I'm guessing that's what they mean by that. I would want to be some sort of. Wait, does it have to exist? Is there a Stegosaurus one? I like Stegosaurus. That's my favorite dinosaur. No, Ankylosaurus, the ones with the giant ball on the end of their tail that they could hit things with. That's what I want to be. I don't think it's in the story, but that's what I want.

[A]

I don't think there is a Stegosaurus one. I think that one would be cool. I'm going to steal that answer just because I don't want to use an existing one and I want to just pick the, you know, the poochie, the T. Rex, you know, So I vote the little guys in Jurassic park that spit venom.

[C]

Oh, the hooded lizards.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, get out of here. Stop laughing. Close the door if you're gonna laugh. NB's lobby writes really interesting that Roger describes emu as a. Emu as a black monster. Makes me think more about the potential of Gunko having something to do with the devil's tail that killed Cobra. And it feels like the possibilities are endless right now for theories. And you picked the wrong two people to talk about.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, it seems like. I mean, so, okay, we've seen that emu can possess any of the Elders and Gunko, right? So, like, it seems like they must all share something. Maybe they've, like, given part of their soul, for lack of a better term, to emu, and therefore he's able to, like, project himself through them or whatever. Yeah, I mean, I think that guess is as good as anything. Like, if. If, like Gunko and the Elders and like, maybe other characters we've yet to see are, like, emu acolytes and. Yeah, I mean, I think that's. Sure.

[A]

I don't think that was Gunko's powers, though. That's, you know, with. With Sabo and Cobra there. Because, like, Emu, it's like. It's not subtle. It's like he's like the devil. Like, when we see him possess, you know, with the Domi Reverse here, when he possesses Gunko, it's wings, horns, pitchforks, all that. Or, you know, whatever the hell it is, tridents, you know, Whatever you fancy. So it's like. It's a devil tale. I think that's what it is. It'd be weird for that to be okay. And then I just decided to possess Gunko. To walk into the room and do this. Nah, I think it's just. That's the devil. Devil tale. But I'll eat my hat. I guess if I'm wrong, Ice Fisher Tenacity writes. Holy cow. I love Garp's move. Infinitum Explosion. I use the term ad infinitum a lot. I was curious about Roger's move. Is Ace the name of the Fire God? Or is it the Fire God's Ace? A. The Fire God's Ace in the hole. Like how Roger's sword is his own Ace. Regarding this critical mass conqueror's hockey, I like to think that the user. Thanks, Jupiter. I like to think that the user puts so much willpower into their attack that the very output itself of hockey is what caused more and more energy to be drawn from the body until they're completely drained. Incapacitated. I feel incapacitated after reading all that. Sorry. There's a Fire God.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Did I miss. Did I miss a week?

[C]

I, I, I feel okay. I could be wrong. I thought that the. The listener was asking if the way that the Steven Paul translated this was. Was to mean that the. The name of the Fire God. Fire God Ace is the name. Or if this is the Ace of the Fire. Go God. But since neither of us are Steven Paul, I don't have any insight into that for you.

[A]

I'm sorry. Sorry. And I'm sorry I read that so disjointedly in terms of your second question here. Yeah. I mean, I feel like it is what it is. Like, yeah. We use so much hockey, we exhausted ourselves.

[C]

Yeah. I didn't go into this after the recap. I really hated that moment. It was so like. I think, Steve, you called it like Dragon Ball Z. There was such like, a numerical fashion to it where it's like, oh, if we use this hockey, it will contract that hockey. And that's not the way that I conceptualize One Piece fights.

[A]

We have to go further beyond. No, that wasn't word for word. But it's so. Yeah, it's Stevie Zuko.

[C]

Yeah. Again, if that's the way that you enjoy it, that's totally fine. I'm just speaking from my own experience here. I didn't enjoy that. It seemed like a lot of words to say, let's hit him together at the same time.

[A]

Game. Yeah.

[C]

Because. Because like, I mean. I mean, we know for a fact that neither Garp nor Roger die exhausting themselves to kill rocks. So it's just like, oh, here's an idea. Let's use a lot of hockey to hit him together. Would have done the same thing without all of this sort of like technical language that doesn't fit. To me. It's just a. It's just a personal preference. It didn't. I didn't like that scene.

[A]

I think just like this, the manipulation of Haki and all that. It just really kind of just. It structure things a little bit too much when. I don't know. I just. I miss Old Man One Piece here. It's like I miss when Luffy just was able to beat up Crocodile because his fists were blowing.

[C]

No, seriously. I always. I've said this so many times on the show about how much I love that Luffy just like. Or maybe it's San. Whoever. They all rinse. Mr. Three just absolutely savage. That guy gets his ass whooped like in two different arcs. But Mr. 3 is the only guy who's immune to Magellan and impel down just because of the unique quirk of his ability. And that is what I love about One Piece. It's just like, oh, you bring back this fucking guy who sucks from 17 arcs ago. But he's good against in this one particular circumstance. Just as a nature of his ability. That was the shit that kept me locked the fuck in. I don't want to know about numbers. Don't tell me a number.

[A]

Yeah, it's more like I like. Like you know, a little bit of puzzle solving. More with these fights rather than just. Well, I just got to put. I. I just got to make my fist even harder.

[C]

Or like. Or like Nami or like NAMI vs Khalifa.

[A]

Whatever context you want.

[C]

Like NAMI vs Khalifa was like all about like bubbles and electricity.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

It was just so good, man.

[A]

Nami's fights used to be more about strategy. Now it's just. Just Spam. Lightning bolt and we said that again. And I'm sorry if this is complaining, but you gotta see where we're coming from here. Here. We're old.

[C]

We get it.

[A]

Yeah. And then our last one's going to be from Aiden. Y' all took a question about a potential God Valley Mo. God Valley movie last week, which begs a follow up. Would they really make an entire One Piece movie without Luffy and the Straw hats? Maybe they could frame it as somebody who was there telling them the story. Really I should have tied this into our previous discussion here. And like, I just want to make sure you were heard. We read this and I think they could. But I. I think I'll speak as a Western like One piece fan. From observation, I think western fans are eating this shit up right now. They like. I think Rox has become very popular. They love shanks. So I could see them being all for this. You know. I think maybe I don't know what it's like in other parts of the world. Maybe they're more attach to the straw hats and maybe people. Sure, we are more attached to the straw hats and we don't quite realize it. I think. I don't know. American fans would eat this.

[C]

I definitely do agree that I think it would gross less than like a Luffy focused feature. For sure. Like definitely. It's much more of a financial risk. However, I think the idea that it wouldn't have an audience is completely untrue. I think that there are so many at this point in the game. There are so, so so many supporting characters that are beloved by all different kinds of fans. So like, would they do it? Can't say. Because you couldn't bank on Luffy in that case, which you know, is not great for an investor or like a producer or whatever. Would it find love? I think so. Because there's. Everybody has supporting characters that they love. I would love like this is just me or whatever. I would love to see like a Smoker and Tashigi movie. Nobody would be there but me. But I love Smoker and Tashigi because.

[A]

We don't get enough.

[C]

We don't get enough. I haven't seen them in ages and there are so many groups in this series I feel that way about. I would totally watch a Roger Pirates movie. I would totally watch a Rocks Pirates movie. I would watch movies about probably really, frankly any of the major pirate crews. So would they do it? I could see them deciding it would be too much of a financial gamble. Would they find. Find an audience? I think they would.

[A]

But now are we kind of. Are we being hypocritical? Because before when we said oh, we don't want to see any spin offs, but we're also saying we'd be there.

[C]

No, I'm. No, I am completely consistent. If you're going to do a spin off, the 90 minute movie is the only genre for it. I don't want to read a spin off manga. I don't want to read a new story. If you are going to like do supplemental material I think an encapsulated movie that is over in 90 minutes is the only way that I would personally, from my own experience, be interested. I don't want to see a Boruto from One Piece. Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, as I, I. Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah, I think I'd be more for that. Like some specials.

[C]

Yeah. Special.

[A]

That's kind of how I feel about. That's how I feel like about Dragon Ball at this point. And I'm like, I don't want to see another series. Like Daimo was fine, but like, I don't know. Some movies though, I think Daimo would have worked better as a movie. I kind of like. Yeah, just maybe like a new movie. Yeah. I think I just said I don't need to see it. I. Sorry, I'm covering my ass because I feel like I just said I've seen plenty of One Piece movies I don't need to see any more. But it's more like if I could save my ass here. I think at this point I put so much time into One Piece and, and I don't have that time like I used to. So I am not ready to buy 100 plus more volumes of something. Something. But if it's just every now, it's almost like a family reunion. Like, hey, if I just have to just show up somewhere like once a year.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, to put it succinctly, I would take in things that are not canon, that are one off adventures. It's an extension to canon that I'm not interested in. What we're getting is going to be all that I care about.

[A]

But these studios, the big thing is they want to attract, they want to make new fans. They always want to make new fans. And I think this pitch for One Piece, it'd be a tougher sell and be like, oh, I haven't read one. I haven't watched One Piece. It's like, what should I. Like why should I see this? What should I know? And it's the problem with God Valley. It's so much name dropping where it's kind of like, oh, you got to do your homework. Which is I'll also steal from Daniel Dockery. It's like, eh. It's like sometimes these arcs feel like. Like there's homework, you know, and, and I. And I'm. We were of the same opinion, I think a good flashback. And of course like these, like, it's hard to judge One Piece flashbacks because they're so tied to the arc they're in. But I think Some of the best one piece flashbacks, you can watch them out of context and the story within those is good enough. I think. Think with, you know, Kuhma's flashtrack, maybe a little bit with the God Valley, it's like you got to do your. Your homework. You got to know who these people are.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I had to like, Google a couple. I'll be so. For real. Because, like, because, like, okay, this. I don't want to get off topic.

[A]

The.

[C]

The Stussy that's part of Cypher pole is like a clone, right? Yes. Well.

[A]

Oh, sorry, sorry. Because I think I never corrected you. Because. And I real. I forgot too, because they look the same, but Stussy is the clone. But that is Ms. Bucket.

[C]

Right, okay. Because I know they weren't exactly the same person, but one of them is like the new one is like a clone of her. Right?

[A]

Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah, I've read the manga.

[C]

You can tell.

[A]

Easy to forget. No, even I forgot too. So give me that. Yeah, I. God, I. I'm a fucking. I'm a one piece lifer, you know, you make a new one piece movie, I will see it. But I think you. These studios, these companies, they're factoring in. They want to put as many butts and seats as possible, not just the Die Hards. So that's why this. You know, I. You know, there's a lot of skepticism here, so who knows? But I know they're. I wouldn't be surprised if they're not thinking about it. So. Alrighty. Wow. That's gonna do it for piece together the yappers here. Yeah. Wow. It's like, who. Who needs a. Who needs a podcast with six people on it when you could have this. The same amount of discussion with two.

[C]

Yeah. Where every question that comes in, we're like, I don't care about this. This sucks. Actually.

[A]

I'm curious what the response will be this podcast.

[C]

But we love you guys. We promise.

[A]

We love you guys. No, thank you for writing in. We always want to give you the. The most well thought out answers. I think, you know, you. You give us enough of your time. Listen to the show and give. And give us your time writing these things. You deserve. You deserve our. Our time. So thank you so much. All right, Josh, let's. Let's round off this. This very small but very big podcast. This has been the One Piece podcast. Episode 892. November 10, 2025. It was a good one.

[C]

Yeah, it was packed. It was packed. It.

[A]

Yeah. Apologies if you guys were hoping for. Hoping for insight from Steven, references from Ed, all the organization, from Zach. Yeah, organization. It was a. Yeah, like I said at the beginning of the show, it was a real skeleton crew. But I appreciate both Alex and Josh for stepping in and helping me out here because I was almost prepared. I was gonna do a solo show. I would.

[C]

Have you ever done that before?

[A]

No. It would. It'd be weird. I think the one time I did something on my own, it was. It was an April Fool's, Sanji's cool podcast. And like the joke was, it was.

[C]

It was just by herself.

[A]

Yeah. But I was willing because I was like, you know what, what the hell, I'll just, you know, one man show here and I'll just vamp, you know, for a bit. But I really appreciate you guys making time. It was great. Especially because neither of us have been on the show in a bit. So we really got to it seven spirit. Like, yeah, that's another fun chapter. I guess we really kind of got to let out some steam that we haven't been able to do in quite a while. So. Yeah. In terms of podcasts, in terms of some podcast news, I apologize for not posting the next Sticker Club poll yet. Just been busy, but that's going to come. I try not to overload our Patreon in a single day with a bunch of posts, so I don't want people to miss it. So I think this episode's gonna go up, you know, on Patreon and then expect the poll in the next day or so, just so it doesn't lose track. But I. I think I have my picks ready to go and I'll probably leave the poll up for a week. So make sure you vote and I'll do my best to get the word out there. Thank you so much for your patience on that and thanks for supporting us and I. We gotten a few more people signed up for tier, so that's exciting. And. And yeah, just stay tuned for that. Other than. Other than that, housekeeping, that's really about it. Seems like I think we got a manga chapter next week I won't be on. I'm gonna be out of town for the next couple weeks, so I don't think I'll be on the podcast for basically the rest of November. So just. Just tell the guys when you write in your piece togethers that you really appreciate how much you appreciate Steve, Josh and Alex.

[C]

That's true. Yeah, let. Let them know because Zach Ad and Steven Paul have been beating us. They've They've been very mean to us about. I don't know, I don't have a bet here.

[A]

Yeah, they. Yeah they do their own God Valley incident where they just make us run.

[C]

Around and they we're Cinderella and they're the stepsisters. How about the.

[A]

That they tore my dress. But Josh, where could the good people find you?

[C]

You can find me at any social media that normal people are on. That's User Aman's Amouns. You can see all of my drawings and stuff there. Just because I have slightly more time here. If you want to hear more media criticism, if you weren't annoyed by me this episode, you might enjoy my other show Swim Fans where with my co host Jennifer and Craig we talk about genre film. We've had all stars of the show like host Alex, Shannon Strucci, Joey Weiser, all of your favorites have been over on Steve once has been over on.

[A]

Long time ago when I was on there.

[C]

So if you're interested in like, I mean it's quite a different show from the One Piece podcast. It's film analysis. But like if you want to tune in, we have a good time. So yeah, that's me.

[A]

Thanks. And Alex, where could the good people find you?

[B]

Splice this in Alex. Where can the good people find you? Follow me on Blue sky at do exclamation. Also Superart Fight has a patreon now superart fight.com look for it on Patreon. You can watch old shows starring me and other great art fighters. So yeah, okay.

[A]

And I'm Steve Yurko on basically all social media, mostly on Blue sky and Instagram. Follow me on there. Go to my website steveyerko.com listen to me on ProCD plays games over on YouTube. Listen to 4 kids flashback other podcasts I do with Tara Terra Tara Sans. I don't know why I emphasize.

[C]

Yeah, that's. You sounded like you had a secret when you said all that.

[A]

It's like Terra whose full name is. Yeah, but yeah, give that show. Give that show a listen too. Especially if you, if you know you're curious about that bygone era of anime dubbing and just production overall. And for the podcast please go to one piecepodcast.com listen to the podcasts on Spotify Apple Podcast. We post our episodes on YouTube as well. Please support us on Patreon.com if you choose and we have multiple tiers including the sticker club tier that I mentioned earlier. That is $12 a month and. And yeah, you'll get a free sticker every month that you get to vote on as well. And what else can you do to support us? And of course, if you ever want your questions, comments, theories heard, best thing to do if you're not a patron is write to us using the hashtag blueskypeia. Or send us an [e-mail] and don't call us at our phone number. Skype is dead. It's done. One it's dead. I'm pretty sure it's dead. I don't think it's coming back.

[C]

Zach will not hear your future calls.

[A]

Skype did not have any children or descendants. It's not Skype.

[C]

D phone calls. Yeah.

[A]

It'S done. As is this podcast. If there's nothing else left to say, my name is Steve and you can.

[B]

Also splice the this in My name is Alex. There we go.

[A]

Go ahead, Josh. You're in this one.

[C]

And my name is Josh.

[A]

And thanks for listening. We'll catch you next time. Later. Bye Bye.