Episode 925, “Vinsmocchio”

Summary

One Piece Podcast Episode 925, “Vinsmocchio”

Date: July 6, 2026
Host: Maji Media
Theme: Manga Chapter 1187, “The Root of the Problem”
Panelists: Zach, Ed, Stephen Paul, Delaney, Sam, Ken

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into One Piece manga Chapter 1187, "The Root of the Problem," with the podcast crew breaking down the chapter’s events while riffing through news, fandom inside jokes, and deeper meaning behind the story’s current arcs. There is a heavy sense of excitement as the arc’s climactic confrontations take shape and character spotlights shift to the Straw Hats, notably Sanji, Zoro, and Luffy.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. News and Updates

(06:20–19:14)

• Mugiwara Store Opening in Los Angeles (06:23)
  The first Mugiwara store outside Asia opens at Westfield Century City, L.A., sparking jealousy among East Coast fans.

  • “I was gonna say New York City. The most forgotten city in. In the world.” — Zach (07:13)

• Dodgers’ One Piece Night (07:49)
  The Dodgers’ stadium hosted a sold-out One Piece night. Luffy "threw" the ceremonial first pitch with animated magic, and special cards were highly sought after at the event.

• One Piece Novel Zoro & “Homoerotica” Category (09:56)
  Zoro’s novel is out, and the group jokes about the cover’s 'homoerotic' vibes—Zoro’s pose, whiskey, open posture.

• Live-action & Production Updates (10:54)
  Season 3 of the live-action series has wrapped production. The team discusses Oda’s on-set mysterious “Old Fish Head” mascot, while poking fun at set photos.

• Volume 115 Release and Oda’s Price Apology (13:04)
  Oda apologizes for a 20-yen price hike on the new volume, endearing himself for worrying about young readers’ allowances.

• Music News (17:25)
  The soundtrack for the Heroines spinoff is out, featuring works by Arisa Okamama and Blue Shining Star as the theme song.

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2. Manga Recap: Chapter 1187 – “The Root of the Problem”

(19:44–59:20)

Opening Commentary

• Oda’s Author’s Note (20:06)
  Oda revived after a Dreams Come True concert (the ‘Smash Mouth of Japan’ according to Stephen).

Cover Story (21:18)

• 420land Returns
  The infamous reader “nabobod420land” submits a request featuring Reiju protecting a Sanji-shaped “ugly duckling." The crew enjoys dissecting the recurring SBS name and its international origins.
  • “Don’t judge a book by its cover is really the lesson here for both Sanji and for Twilieland.” — Zach (25:36)
  • “VinSmokyo” — Delaney (79:37)

Main Plot & Action

• Luffy vs. Imu & Loki Tag-Team (26:29–38:08)
  Luffy lands a solid punch on Imu (a callback to Soul Eater-style violence). Imu recovers with new “Black Flame” attacks, targeting Loki and causing chaos. Loki is battered, with touches of comedic rivalry:

  • “It only happened because of all the damage I put on him first!” — Loki
  • “Loki aggressively taking credit for loosening the jar lid.” — Ed (28:31)

• Straw Hats and the Ice Block Problem (32:27–38:08)
  Classic group gag as Nami, Franky, Brook, and Usopp puzzle over how to break the massive ice encasing Princess Shuri. Nami is exasperated by the ‘non-humans’ giving useless feedback about whether the ice is cold!

  • “Enough of the non humans. Yes. It’s cold.” — Nami/Stephen (34:13)

• Rube Goldberg Solution: Loki’s Downfall
  Loki’s defeated body falls onto the ice, accidentally breaking it open and releasing Princess Shuri—a classic Oda chain-reaction.

• Sanji’s Moral Dilemma & the Zaza vs. Killingham Battle (46:00–53:16)
  Sanji faces Zaza, the monster kidnapping Elbaf’s children. Amid pouring rain and chaos, he vows not to kick a woman or save the kids until he can get to the real villain: Killingham. The sequence is highly cinematic:

  • “You’re the root of the problem.” — Sanji (49:33)
  • “It’s as if Sanji is analyzing the battlefield with a checklist—cinematic and introspective.” — Ken

• Killingham vs. Sanji (Power Reveal)
  Killingham taunts Sanji as “just tough, not immortal.” Hilarious in-character villain oversharing:

  • “Even if getting rid of me means my powers will vanish… Go on and try it!” — Killingham (52:23)
  • “Every time I see ‘You fool’ I think of Gilbert Gottfried on Hollywood Squares.” — Ed

• Sanji’s Flashback – The “Supreme King” Talk with Gabon
  Gabon recognizes Sanji could have Conqueror’s Haki but calls out his “masochistic instability.”

  • “I guess I’ll respect women.” — Zach paraphrasing Sanji (55:05)
  • Ongoing wordplay: “misogynistic instability”, “VinSmocchio”

• Zoro vs. Summers: Standoff
  Zoro’s banter:

  • “My companion just went toward the village, so my guess is yours ain’t coming back—because he’ll be dead.” — Zoro (42:19)
  • Crew riffs on the visual: “It’s like a visual novel with two talking head portraits.” — Sam/Stephen

Climactic Setups: Luffy vs. Imu

• Luffy rips off Loki’s cloak to avoid Imu’s homing attack, leading to the final face-off:
  • “Quit calling me all these different names. I’m Luffy, the man who will be King of the Pirates!” — Luffy (58:24, expertly performed by Delaney)
  • Title card: King of the World vs. Emperor of the Sea

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3. Chapter Impressions & Thematic Discussion

(59:20–80:22)

• Character Focus Praised
  Delaney and Zach appreciate the chapter’s renewed focus on the Straw Hats, giving each their moment in the spotlight after arcs of scattered storytelling.

  • “For some reason, this chapter kind of reframed a few things for me…Sanji’s brief checking-in opens it all up.” — Delaney (60:30)

• Sanji’s Emotional Arc and Foreshadowing
  The crew sees possible setup for Sanji to unlock Conqueror’s Haki and to confront his trauma over his parentage (the Germa).

  • “Sanji’s fight is therapeutic—maybe Killingham will force him to fight his own Germa nightmares.” — Ken (74:38)
  • “Gotta gain some confidence, gotta stop being a prince and start being a Kang.” — Stephen (70:23)

• Oda’s Art and Comedy

  • Zaza and the monstrous rain battle are visually stunning, while Usopp, Nami, and Brook’s ice block confusion earns praise for classic Oda humor.

• Setup for Next Week

  • Excitement for fully-fledged fights, with notes on Oda’s recent panel compositions and the promise of consecutive chapter weeks.

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4. Piece Together (Listener Q&A & Fan Theories)

(85:14–132:15)

• Listener Theories & Running Gags
  • Cover story tournament: Enel’s Great Space Mission vs. Capone’s “Oh My Family” for best.
  • Conqueror’s Haki theorizing: will Usopp or Koby unlock it?
  • Sanji’s self-hatred and jokes about forced therapy for Straw Hats.
  • Oda’s recurring themes about oppressive societies, hereditary power, and family trauma.
  • Wild theories about surrogacy, inbreeding, and the Celestial Dragons’ motives (with an abundance of boundaries and dark jokes handled with levity).
  • Vivi’s possible return and her potential to resolve the Luffy vs. Imu fight.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• 00:32 Zach: “This is the One Piece podcast, episode 925 for the week of Monday, July 6, 2026. My name is Zach.”
• 04:48 Delaney: “It always feels like a dog that’s about to be like you’re feeding a cheeseburger about to take to the vet to get its balls cut off.”
• 21:18 Ed: “This is a reader request for Reiju scolding naughty swans and protecting the ugly duckling by nabobod420land.”
• 28:31 Ed: “Loki aggressively taking credit for loosening the jar lid.”
• 34:13 Nami (via Stephen): “Enough of the non humans. Yes. It’s cold.”
• 49:33 Sanji: “You’re the root of the problem.”
• 55:05 Zach: “Fine, I guess I’ll respect women is what he’s saying here.”
• 58:24 Delaney as Luffy: “‘Quit calling me all these different names! I’m Luffy, the man who will be King of the Pirates!’”
• 67:03 Zach: “The Ye olde English font mixed with like, ooh, it’s spiky and emo. And ooh, look at me, I’m emu.”
• 74:38 Ken: “What if you get literal demonic bad sleep versions of Germa, have Sanji take out his anger, frustration or whatever pent up he has inside against Germa and really reconcile that and then it leads into Killingham again being his own downfall.”
• 79:37 Delaney: “VinSmokyo.”

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Timestamps of Significant Segments

• 00:32 – Show Start, Introductions
• 06:20 – News Segment Begins (“Jeopardy categories”)
• 13:04 – Oda’s Apology for Volume Price Increase
• 19:44 – Manga Recap Start / Oda’s Author’s Note
• 21:18 – Cover Page Analysis (nabobod420land)
• 26:29 – Chapter Recap: Luffy vs. Imu, Loki, and Black Flames
• 32:27 – Straw Hats and the Ice Block
• 38:08 – Rube Goldberg Ice Melting Sequence
• 46:00 – Sanji vs. Zaza & Killingham, “Root of the Problem” Speech
• 53:16 – Sanji’s Flashback (Gabon, “Supreme King”)
• 55:43 – Battle of the Fonts / Emu vs. Luffy
• 58:24 – Luffy’s Declaration: King of the Pirates
• 59:20 – Manga Recap Concludes, Panel Reactions
• 85:14 – Piece Together Fan Q&A Segment
• 133:44 – Outro and Signoffs

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Conclusion

Episode 925 is a high-energy, humorous, and thoughtful discussion of one of the most climactic chapters in recent One Piece memory. The crew blends deep appreciation for Oda’s art, storytelling, and humor with their own banter and critical commentary, making the episode a must-listen for manga fans. Key highlights include the Sanji character arc speculation, focus on the Straw Hats’ roles, and the comedic analysis of the series’ fonts and running gags about “VinSmokyo.”

New listeners will be caught up not just on chapter 1187’s developments, but also on current fandom in-jokes and the overall trajectory of One Piece as it nears its endgame.

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Final Line (Ed, 59:22):
“There was a lot going on in this chapter, but I didn’t think we’d get like…the fight card for…Seems like the Straw Hats aren’t any closer to finding One Piece. But we’re fighting the King of the World now. Or Luffy is. Or Joy Boy. Don’t—but don’t call him all those different names.”

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Transcript

[Ken]

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[Stephen]

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[Zach]

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[Ken]

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[Zach]

Sam, This is the One Piece podcast, episode 925 for the week of Monday, July 6, 2026. My name is Zach.

[Ed]

My name is Ed.

[Zach]

And on today's show we have very special guest. You may know him as the translator, the official translator for One Piece and weekly Shonen Jump In Manga. Plus Stephen Paul's with us. How's it going, Stephen?

[Stephen]

Hey. Viva Mexico. Fucking. Let's get them all out there. They're about to play.

[Ed]

You know, as I said last night on Blue Sky, I think the funniest possible remaining outcome of the World cup is the US Beating England in the final.

[Zach]

Yes. But I also saw him.

[Ed]

That would require England to win tonight, which I also don't.

[Ken]

Kind of don't want to happen.

[Zach]

Yeah, I was going to say Mexico needs to have payback for the Great British Baking show episode about the Mexican. Yeah, and I saw that on Blue Sky. I don't know who to credit that to.

[Ed]

Yeah, I saw a big like tiered cake with like a fondant bigote mustache.

[Zach]

Okay. We saw the same. We saw the same post, so there you go. But speaking of England, we also have our editor, Delaney Jordan. How's it going, Delaney?

[Ed]

We're based on last week's episode. Long Suffering editor.

[Delaney]

Yeah, I should leave right now for that, frankly. Yeah, sorry. Things have been getting too hinky around here and I'm fucking busy right now. So I'm here to supervise so I don't have to go scrounge up new meme audio to overlay over whatever catastrophe looms while disaster. Disaster crawls.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Delaney]

But otherwise I'm doing. I believe the term is catastrophic catastrophe. Yeah, pretty much. No. Otherwise I'm doing fine. Zach.

[Zach]

Thank you for coming, Delaney. Also have our anime recap. Host Sam Leach joins us. Sam, how's it going?

[Sam]

Oh, One Piece is getting an anime now, huh?

[Zach]

Well, it has a spin off one. We'll talk about that later. And our archivist, Ken o', Connor, last but not least. Hi, Ken. How's it going?

[Ken]

Hey, everybody. Hope everyone had a nice long weekend and is surviving this heat wave we're currently experiencing.

[Ed]

Oh, how's Iris doing in the heat wave?

[Ken]

She hates it. She is running outside, going to the bathroom, running back in as if the sky was falling. As there's a timer on the clock. She is dying. So right now she's in the.

[Ed]

Poor husky.

[Zach]

So the bipolar Irises do nothing.

[Ken]

The bipolar irises do nothing. Apparently she's not awoken in the power yet.

[Zach]

One day. One day. Yeah. So that's his dog, by the way. Adorable. And social media presence is very felt by us all. Today we're going through chapter 1187. 1187. And the title is the Root of the Problem, which apparently is what Delaney says when she opens up our audio each week. No.

[Delaney]

Damn fucking straight.

[Stephen]

That would be the stem of the problem.

[Zach]

Oh, ouch. But we have a ton of news.

[Delaney]

Like there were issues.

[Zach]

No, but Delaney, huge thanks, of course, for editing. I always say if you're not notice. Well, I guess with Delaney, you sometimes notice when she's editing, but generally if you don't notice it, it's. Well, so. Always the unsung hero of podcasting. So thanks for that, Delaney. I should be saying that every week

[Ed]

when you notice things, it's on purpose.

[Zach]

That's what I was going to say. Okay, Ed, I'll let you choose our first category for the news segment because we have a ton of it this week. Actually, before we get into news, subscribe to us on patreon.com One Piece Podcast. Help our amazing editor as well as our artists, and you're laying it on really thick, Zach.

[Delaney]

Do you expect something to go wrong?

[Zach]

Not only do I expect it, I know it will happen.

[Delaney]

It always feels like a dog that's about to be like you're feeding a cheeseburger about to take to the vet to get its balls cut off.

[Sam]

Look, I can unplug my mic right now. If we want to expediate this process,

[Zach]

well, Sam, you would have to be the one apologizing for that specifically and thereby giving the cheeseburger. So, yes, please subscribe to [e-mail] One Piece podcast. It has alternate images, alternate titles. We have our sticker of the Month club, which the new poll, I think goes up probably this coming week. Also, if you haven't checked out our artist, Steve Yurko, please do. Beyond his sticker craftsmanship, he's also made some really cool standees recently, including a gear 5 Luffy, which you should check out. Enough hyping for Steve. He's not even here with us. So, Ed, I'm going to give you some categories which I'm going to make up right now. We have Live and In the Flesh. I'm trying to make Jeopardy categories for this. Books, Merchandising, Sports, Exclamation Point, and Music and Homoerotica.

[Ed]

Merchandising. Merchandising. Okay.

[Zach]

I thought so. Great. Now I have to say that for each person, though, Merchandising. Apparently the Mugiwara store is heading to Westfield century city at 10 to 1000-1000-0250-1050 Santa Monica Boulevard in Los Angeles. Presumably a permanent setup here. Extremely exciting. This is our first, I think, outside of Asia. Mugiwara store, as far as I could think of. And it comes in this fall. Any thoughts? And can I know you and I have the same thought when they bring

[Ken]

it to New York?

[Zach]

Yeah. How does we know about us?

[Ed]

Those are the only two cities Japan knows about in this country.

[Zach]

I was gonna say New York City. The most forgotten city in. In the world. Clearly we don't get enough attention. That's what I'm trying to say. Thoughts. I mean, Steven, you're over Central Minnesota next.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it sounds cool. I hope it. I hope it's a great success.

[Zach]

Yeah, there's not much else to say there. Steven, would you like to pick a category? Do I have to make up these categories?

[Stephen]

Let's go with sports.

[Zach]

Sports. Hey. Our very own Jill attended the Dodgers game. And I mentioned the Dodgers game because it once again was one piece night. This one was sold out, which is pretty incredible. There were.

[Stephen]

That's. That's not exciting.

[Ed]

The doctors are the reigning champions and they've been extremely good for the last decade.

[Stephen]

Ever. Yeah.

[Zach]

Thoughts on the Dodgers? I'll save those. But anyway, there were also many scalpers trying to buy. Not for tickets to the game, though, probably also for that, but for a certain card that I could guarantee you Steve Yurko is not holding right now because I do not believe he attended. So he'll have to not ask for a card again. Yes, Ed,

[Ed]

some say he already has not asked for it.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what?

[Delaney]

He's still not asking for it to this day in the mountains.

[Zach]

I hear him yelling at us from here. Somehow I don't know how. Anyway, there's some really cool animation that came with it, which I think we reposted on our Blue sky account. That was posted on the. Not posted. That was displayed on the giant billboard there. Also, Luffy threw out the ceremonial first pitch. Yes, he's a cartoon character, but they did it. They've broken the cartoon barrier. I don't know what I'm saying, but I don't know. Cut all that. She's not going to. She's shaking her head. We'll talk more about that though, when Jill comes on. I am excited to hear all about that journey.

[Ed]

And we were trying to get Jill on this week, but she's on vacation.

[Zach]

God, that cheeseburger meant nothing to you, Delaney. That's clearly why.

[Delaney]

Why? Is something happening?

[Zach]

No. Jesus Christ. Okay, Sam, you want to pick a category?

[Sam]

How could I not pick? Homoerotica.

[Zach]

Homoerotica for 600. The One Piece Novel Zorro is on sale. It's available everywhere. I assume it's just Homoerotica. And as we'll discuss on today's chapter. In today's chapter, it's probably just Homoerotica. Anyway, it does feature him, man spreading on a big sofa. So a big sofa chair with like a whiskey and holding his sword and looking like. Hey, what's up? I don't know what's going on in that picture anyway. Sorry, I am low on sleep for the week if this is not clear by my description of the news. Anyway, it's available now. It's a prelude to the story about him leaving Shamowski Vill and up through the point where he meets Luffy. So actually, interesting stuff, Delaney. What do we have left? We have books, live and in the flesh. And music.

[Delaney]

I'm gonna go with live and in the flesh.

[Zach]

Live and in the flesh. Speaking of live and also in flesh. One Piece, Season three is wrapped production. Yeah, Feature photo. Yeah, it was pretty fast, actually.

[Ed]

I mean, didn't you see a picture of old Fish Head on the set already?

[Zach]

Yes, Ol Fish Head was on the set drawing in the sand. Is that what we're calling Oda now? Ol Fish Head? It's fine if we do. I just want to know if that's what we're calling him now.

[Ed]

That's what I think. That's the first thing you notice when you see those pictures where his head is covered with his logo.

[Zach]

It does. The picture with the straw hats does feature a very funny crocodile in the background. Propagandized for all.

[Ed]

Just a little bit of a street art, I guess.

[Zach]

Yeah, you know, just propaganda. Street art comes.

[Delaney]

It looks like the kind of poster you would see in a ride queue. Like before. Before you get in the The Luffy Mobile and put on your 3D glasses and crocodile. Like. I'm thinking like the Spider man ride. It looks like something that you'd see in the queue for the Spider man ride.

[Stephen]

Yeah, all they need is like an automatic rifle. And it could be one of those like Ghana movie homemade movie posters that they make.

[Delaney]

Yes, yes.

[Stephen]

It's got a. It's very charming, I think.

[Zach]

Yo.

[Stephen]

It is.

[Zach]

You're right. I was just watching that John Oliver thing about the Ghana movie posters recently. Ken, books or music? It's up to you.

[Ken]

Books.

[Zach]

Books. Did you know volume 115 is coming out?

[Ken]

No way. Really?

[Zach]

We talked about this last. Last week, but there's a few little interesting things. First of all, pretty cool promotional video. Though not as cool as like the Egghead era promotional videos which were like,

[Ken]

nothing's going to beat that.

[Zach]

No, I'm.

[Ed]

Did you see the, like, the long explanation? It's going to be a little more expensive in Japanese.

[Zach]

I was going to read that, though. I don't know where Adil pulled the translation from specifically. I won't read it verbatim, but Oda did apologize for being 20 yen more expensive. Ken, can you do the math for us quickly? What is that? What is that? US dollars? Yeah. 20.

[Ed]

Why don't you go return a Cardi Aldi and get your quarterback?

[Zach]

I think it's less than a quarter.

[Ken]

20 yen is 12 cents.

[Zach]

12 cents.

[Sam]

So he wrote almost half a penny.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's. The yen is not doing very well right now. But just remember, he's writing this screed. Not screed. He's writing this like, long apology about this amount of money, which is still very nice of him to do. But anyway, a volume. He. He explains that after doing 12 volumes, it starts becoming a more costly process. Again, 12 chapter.

[Ed]

12 chapter volumes.

[Zach]

Did I say what I say? 12 volume volumes.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Again, sleep. Not happening. Yes. 12 chapter volumes. When it gets to 13, 20 more yen suddenly have to appear. And he said he has to do it because it makes it way more fun because of that one chapter which is the one that ends it, which has a character that's in this chapter too. You guys know the chapter, I assume? I think we talked about this.

[Sam]

Is it Colin Emu's appearance?

[Zach]

Yeah. Thank you for spoiling it. No, that's. That's fine. Sam is fine.

[Sam]

Sorry to the people who are listening to the podcast without.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam]

Well, shame on them reading the manga

[Zach]

for listening to the podcast.

[Ken]

I always wonder if there are anime only listeners who listen to like the news, skip the manga recap. Listen to the anime, skip to the end of the show.

[Sam]

There was one person who was doing that for a period because we would ask that question on the show and then that person would tweet at us like, that's me.

[Zach]

Oh, so yeah.

[Stephen]

Ruined forever.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Sam]

Wonder if he's still listening.

[Stephen]

This is not a new thing for Oda. Like he is. He has made comments before, I think, where he was like talking. Maybe it was not that there was, there was a price increase, but that he was like, oh, I, you know, I, I haggled and haggled with like the bosses to, to, you know, to put as many chapters as possible without raising the price. And it does seem very kind of quaint in the way that like it, it feels very inconsequential that he, you know, seemingly cares so much. But I do think, I do think that one of those things that weighs on Oda's mind is like knowing that the series is so long and that it's harder than ever for him to reach the, the kids with the allowance like that, you know, that, that, that his audience has kind of inevitably drifted older and older over the years. And so I think that is something that he's very self conscious about. And so that's, that's probably why I

[Ed]

don't know what these standard price in yen is for a. I think it's like 520.

[Zach]

Right? It's like it's something like that.

[Stephen]

Yeah. I mean it's risen over the years.

[Zach]

Three or four dollars. Yeah. It's not.

[Ken]

Well, I mean it's.

[Zach]

I'll put it this way. When you try and buy it abroad on Amazon Japan, which I'm not doing this time, it's like 70 bucks because of the amount of, you know, shipping and all that crap.

[Ken]

But I mean, it's what. It's one volume, Michael. What could cost $10.

[Zach]

There you go.

[Ken]

Thank you.

[Sam]

The American ones are like 12 now, right?

[Zach]

Yeah, that's.

[Stephen]

That's actually super cheap.

[Zach]

It is super cheap. Like I think when I was a kid they were like 10. Like a volume of manga.

[Sam]

Yeah, I remember like eight. I remember eight.

[Zach]

Like I don't remember any that were eight, but maybe this was.

[Stephen]

Viz was always very aggressive about that. Like, like pre, like pre, you know, manga boom where everything got flipped so that it was read Japanese style and all of that. Like their original ones were like 20 bucks back in the 90s, so.

[Zach]

Wow.

[Ed]

And they also tried selling like floppy singles of like Sailor Moon chapters and stuff back in the 90s.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed]

When floppies were still a thing.

[Zach]

Yeah. I have a. I have a floppy inuyasha that sounds really awful. Don't isolate that footage.

[Ken]

Yeah. The MSRP. The MSRP of one of the viz ones says 1199 still on the back.

[Delaney]

Okay.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's. I could look at my super old ones but I don't think they were that far off of that. The last piece of news is related to Heroines. The one piece spin off. They're both music related. Please let me know if you know these people can. You could look them up. But one is. You're our archivist.

[Ken]

Yeah. Absolutely.

[Zach]

It features. The soundtrack is available featuring music from composer Arisa. Ok. Mama. That's the name. You can't spell that from the way I just said it.

[Ken]

I got like one letter and like. Wait.

[Zach]

It's it. I linked. I linked it.

[Ken]

I got it. I got it. I got it.

[Zach]

And also you might recognize this band. Blue Shining Star is the theme song for the. I think it's just that one special right from Aina. The End who is doing the current one piece opening and has been very prolific recently. I think. I forget what other. There's another recent anime they did an opening for. I think. I can't recall off the top of my head. What do we got?

[Ken]

Ken for Arisa. I'm seeing there have been a bunch of stuff. I'm seeing some of their most recent stuff has been jjk. They've done music in the Vermillion Mask Warrior Princess and the Barbarian King Apothecary Diaries. They've been in a bunch of stuff. So pretty prolific across the board there.

[Sam]

Which JJK song is that?

[Zach]

No no. It's the background music is the. That's the OST.

[Sam]

Oh.

[Ken]

In both JJK1 2 and the Zero movie they've done music in.

[Zach]

I don't know Sam. If that means anything to you. Seems okay. That's it for the news. I think we did that pretty expeditiously. All things considered. Let's move into the manga. You all ready?

[Ed]

Yes.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Ken]

I was born ready.

[Zach]

I don't believe that.

[Ken]

I know.

[Zach]

This is the manga recap for chapter 1187. The root of the problem. We'll get to that in a moment. You can read this chapter and all chapters as soon as they come out at Shonen Jump, Viz.com or MangaPlus. Shueisha Co J.P. ed, why don't you start us out with what Oda's been up to. I'm sure it's different from previous weeks this week.

[Ed]

Oda, having been exhausted by Pokemon Go last week, says I was revitalized by a Dreams Come True concert once again. I never missed that intro. And yeah, Oda back at the concerts again. Yeah. Dreams Come True is like a sort of a soft rock like. Like a soft rock pop duet for. They're popular in the late 80s early 90s.

[Stephen]

Yep.

[Ed]

The.1 of the members did the music for Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2 games.

[Zach]

Steven, do you have anything to say about it?

[Stephen]

If. If Oda was born and raised in California, he would be like at the tribal casino to see Smash Mouth every weekend. That's. That's basically what he. The equivalent of what he is doing. He's just watching all of his childhood favorites week in and week out. Apparently, judging by if you had a

[Zach]

billion dollars or however rich billionaire. But if, if you were however Richie would. Wouldn't you see Smash Mouth every weekend at the casino? No. No you wouldn't because Mel. Okay, maybe I shouldn't speak for you. Ed, what's going on on the COVID This is. This is one for the books. This is a cover page.

[Ed]

This is a reader request for Breju Scolding Naughty Swans and Protecting the ugly duckling by nabobod420land.

[Zach]

Is this the same 420 land, Steven, or does he have a new.

[Stephen]

Oh no, It's a different 420 land. Of course it's the same 420 land. What do you think?

[Zach]

Well, he has a longer full name. What's Nabobo D? What's the joke there?

[Delaney]

Should I be Getting Nabobo D420 land from the New York 420 lands?

[Zach]

Friend of the show. 420 land? Yes.

[Ken]

Is it a Bobobo reference?

[Stephen]

Very much Doubt it.

[Zach]

Okay, he's definitely around our age. I don't. I, I.

[Sam]

Why are we discounting the. The possibility of a larger 420 land family?

[Zach]

That's a good question, Sam. Steven, can you say I don't like

[Ed]

the reference to the Ugly Duckling? Because the Ugly Duckling is my least favorite. Like fable or whatever they.

[Sam]

Okay, okay, Brothers Graham, what's your favorite?

[Ed]

Because it's. Because it shouldn't. It's the wrong. The title is wrong because it's not the Ugly Ducking. It's the. It's the Confused signet.

[Zach]

Okay, I like that. And you're right. Baby swans are called.

[Ed]

Yeah, look at that. Sanji shaped.

[Zach]

I. I think I just wanted to say the word signet. To show off that he could say the word signet unprompted. It is. I'm going to use that word more. That's a funny.

[Ken]

Look at that.

[Ed]

Look at that. That judge shaped bird with the lumps on his head. He deserved it.

[Zach]

Yeah, they all deserved it. Except for Sanji.

[Stephen]

Swans are nasty.

[Zach]

Sanji might have deserved it, but not, not duckling Sanji. Regular duck Sanji.

[Delaney]

No, Steven's right. Is that swans already suck ass. So like compounding a fundamental issue.

[Zach]

Can I say none of them look like swans. I don't think. In my opinion.

[Stephen]

Yeah. The kids look like.

[Zach]

They look like ducks.

[Delaney]

They look like.

[Zach]

Or platypi.

[Ken]

If they sound like a duck, they look like a duck.

[Ed]

Bills here.

[Zach]

But they don't look like a duck. Now to be fair, geese would be a better analogy for that family.

[Ed]

Yes. Geese are loud and angry and smelly

[Zach]

and they poop everywhere.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Just like Germa. Double sex.

[Stephen]

Robin Chuan.

[Zach]

Oh my God. Any other thoughts? This is a very funny one.

[Stephen]

Any real thoughts? Yeah, I like this one. It's very cute.

[Zach]

420 land. Just for those who don't know. We've actually corresponded with him more than once. I think it's been a while though.

[Stephen]

He's a very.

[Zach]

Yes. Stephen. I don't know if you.

[Stephen]

I was gonna say, I, I, he's

[Ed]

an old time Twitter user.

[Stephen]

Yes. I DM'd him on Twitter once because he wrote he's, he has changed his username like several times but it's always 420 land. And so I asked him once for the SBS, like how to spell the, the thing. And so he told me that so I could put it in the fun.

[Zach]

Yeah, he's, he, he, despite his name, who I think people are shocked by every time they see it and Americans. I don't think he's. Yeah, I don't think he's native Japanese, but no, he's.

[Stephen]

He's from Hong Kong.

[Zach]

That's what I thought. Yeah. We've talked about this before.

[Stephen]

Yeah, Right. Because the first time he appeared it was Hong Kong for 20 lang, which is even funnier.

[Zach]

It is.

[Ed]

I mean the only people who are confused by the. Or scandalized by the name Americans because it only means something here.

[Sam]

Oh.

[Zach]

I think when I was in Hong Kong, I tried to reach out to him actually. I think that's what.

[Stephen]

Anyway you just yelling on the, on the street corner.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah.

[Ken]

Or 20 land.

[Delaney]

Where is he? Come out face me.

[Zach]

But I was going to say, despite his name, he does give some very good. Unlike Sonata does give some good feedback like in the sbss and in the. And in these reader suggestions. Yeah. So credit where credit's due. Despite the name. Don't judge a book by its cover is really the lesson here for both Sanji and for Twilieland is what I'm gonna say. It doesn't really make sense, but I'm just gonna.

[Ken]

It's a really good cover page. I love Reiju's sweater dress that she has on too. And I feel like putting Germa here is kind of. I wanna say, foreshadowing stuff to come, but I think Oda is reminding us. Hey, don't forget about Germa. Like, this is gonna come up again soon.

[Zach]

The judge with the three. I agree with Ed. The judge is just great to see. I want more, you know, injured duck versions of Judge.

[Ken]

Just duck versions.

[Zach]

Just duck versions.

[Ed]

Even the bird version has the hair, though, in the back. Sure.

[Zach]

Or maybe those are just a lot of feathers, you know.

[Ed]

And the helmet with the, like the bird foot on it.

[Zach]

There's a bird foot on the helmet? Oh, it is. I did not notice that. Thank you, Ed Delaney. You want to start us off this week?

[Delaney]

Yeah, sure. Sorry. Let me just get my voices ready. There's a lot of text we're getting into this chapter. Mid punch. A lovely shot of Imu's face getting pummeled in. Big dent in it. Big dent.

[Zach]

Loki's fist.

[Delaney]

Luffy's fist, mid impact. I was getting there, Zach.

[Zach]

Sorry, I thought you were. I did order. Okay, I'm gonna shut up.

[Delaney]

No, that's fine, Zach. You just can't help talking over women. Loki giving us a good. Did I. Did I mention it? Did I mention the panel? Thank you. He's nodding. And as this happens, we see Emu get knocked straight the fuck back across the trees with a big old doom lightning shooting out from his. Shooting out from where he was standing. And as he hurdles back with blood dripping out of his mouth, he summons two little smiley faces composed of black flame, literally, as he's mo. Like he has not stopped mid flight to do this. He's still rocketing back. And we see him land with a

[Ed]

big compound, just like something out of Soul Eater,

[Delaney]

shaking all the trees. And Loki says, that was a pretty good shot, I'll admit. But it only happened because of all the damage I put on him first. And Luffy says, hey, you're really hurt. Step back and rest a bit. And we see one of the.

[Sam]

Are you doing like a proper Luffy voice.

[Zach]

And I was gonna say, Delaney, when did you get so good at doing a Luffy voice?

[Ken]

That was super good.

[Ed]

Loki aggressively taking credit for loosening the jar lid.

[Delaney]

Overwork mode. Delaney can activate a lot of things. And we see one of the little smiley face flames come up and go west. Who do you think you're talking to? Luffy goes, whoa. And another one pops up to the harassment.

[Zach]

Is that flame talking or is that.

[Delaney]

Oh, is it okay?

[Zach]

I do wish Loki sounded like a 1920s, like gangster, cute gangster or something.

[Delaney]

He was for two seconds. And the little flame pops up. Loki goes, little punk. The flame goes, huh? And we see Luffy is now flying back towards Imu, who's gotten up off screen. And Luffy's trying to pat, pat, pat the. He goes, yeah. Wow. Wow. Huh? It's hot. I mean, it stings. What is this? Black Fire Emu. We see Imu. He's also panting. And I believe that's Luffy going, whoa. He looks way scary up close. As Imu is priming up another. Okay, Black Flame and quick clarification, are there. No, that's okay. Nevermind. I know where they are now. There's two of the little black flames on Loki's big fur cloak. And they're having a side conversation going. We're supposed to go to his chest where the sword was stuck. Yeah. And they go, go, go, go. And start crawling up Loki. And Loki goes, damn it. These flames keep spreading. And it seems that Imu has gotten his. His next attack ready with a little shing. Little musical shing. It looks like a bell.

[Sam]

And Imu says, is that what it looks like?

[Delaney]

Does it not look?

[Ed]

It's like a dingle bell you'd put on a cat's collar.

[Delaney]

Yeah, it looks like that. Thank you, Ed.

[Zach]

Sam, get your mind.

[Delaney]

And Emu says, Blade of Hatred Stigma. And we see him launching it right past Luffy and directly into Loki's chest with a big full spread. Like the hilt sprouted out of it and everything. And Loki flies back and loses his grip on the hammer.

[Ed]

It almost kind of looks like when Piccolo killed Goku at the beginning of the Saiyan Saga,

[Zach]

but thank you, Sam. You've ruined this for me.

[Ed]

Special Beam Cannon.

[Zach]

You've ruined this for me, Sam. I didn't see that. Because I'm a sweet summer child and you've just ruined it.

[Sam]

Doesn't help. It doesn't help that I keep reading his attack as Blade of Hatred Smegma as well.

[Ed]

What?

[Delaney]

Blade of Hatred Sigma.

[Zach]

I'm not writing that down.

[Ken]

I read Stigma the first time.

[Ed]

Blade of Hatred Ligma.

[Stephen]

Stigma balls.

[Delaney]

Ligma Bells.

[Ken]

Loki died from Ligma.

[Zach]

Okay, I'll write that one, but I don't like it. I'm not making side draw that.

[Sam]

Just float the idea, Pastor Sam.

[Zach]

You could do that.

[Delaney]

Express powers activate.

[Zach]

Steven.

[Stephen]

All right, so on the next page, we see what appears to be the aftermath of everyone getting ready to one shot. The giant block of ice with their lightning and radical beams and what have you. And. Yeah, Nami.

[Zach]

That's all she. That's all she does now.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, but it does nothing. They're just standing around like, what's going on with this thing? It won't even budge. And Jim Bass huffing and puffing. Nothing works on it. And Usopp wonders, is that not ice? What if it's actually diamond or something? Says Frankie. To which Nami, sorry, diamond. And then Usopp is like, but if it's anything but ice, then the woman inside has diamonds. Definitely suffocate. Oh, is he pulls up short as Nami kind of clonks him on the side of the head like, you. You dummy. Like, don't say that out loud. Now, I do want to point out, even if it is ice, she is definitely suffocated. Oh, yeah, this is another one of

[Zach]

not in one piece.

[Stephen]

Yeah, this is another one of Oda's like, laws of physics, where it's like, apparently if it's a non. If it's like an organic material, it's completely porous and air just goes in. That's how all those people survive.

[Sam]

Water.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Ed]

She's.

[Stephen]

She's breathing. Bite with gills.

[Ken]

Yeah, listen, if Eric Cartman can freeze himself from Nintendo Wii, I'm sure that Princess Shuri is fine.

[Sam]

Yeah, that's how Jack got got out of the ocean.

[Delaney]

She's with Walt Disney. We're just going to. We're going to stick her in the machine and bring her back to life once the nuclear apocalypse is run over the world.

[Stephen]

Yeah, don't. Don't mind that. The head. The head. Yeah. No, this. And also the. You know, let's let. Lest we forget all of the victims of Caesar's gas who were stuck in their, like, hardened chocolate sundae shells for several hours and were completely fine when that was over.

[Ed]

It's basically like a volcanic ash, I think.

[Zach]

Yeah, chocolate sundae.

[Stephen]

So anyways, Brooke reaches out to touch the ice and he says, but if I touch it, it feels cold.

[Ed]

Oh, does it now?

[Stephen]

Or at least I imagine it would now he's like, you can't tell. She. She has a funny fault face. And then Frankie reaches out and touches it with his big metal hand and he's like, wait, wait, no, he's got a point. If I touch it. Yeah, no, I can't tell either. And that's a very fun line. And Nami's like, enough of the non humans. Yes. It's cold. And the only person paying attention, Jim Bay, is like, look out behind you, Stephen.

[Zach]

I have to say, I was reading this on my phone. I'm like, what's that mountain or something behind Nami?

[Stephen]

It's just his head.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Zach]

No, And I'm like, oh, that's Jim Bay. Yeah, sorry, go.

[Stephen]

Yes. And. And then Loki just happened by happenstance, lands like almost head first on top of the ice block.

[Ed]

He also almost gives it the million dollar baby.

[Stephen]

And every. Everybody is diving.

[Ken]

Million dollar Loki.

[Stephen]

Everybody is diving for cover and screaming. And then he. He slides down the side of the. The branch or you know, whatever it is that the. The ice cube is resting on. And Luffy's like, Loki. And Nami's like, what? Oh, look out. His hammer's coming down. And so here it comes swirling down from above. And on the next page. Gonk. Gonk. Luki. Loki's iron hammer fell down upon the ice. And. Yeah, nice Ragnarok. And he. Just to remind you that he is also a squirrel, he goes. As he deflects off of the ice and everyone is shocked and they're. They're wondering like, huh? Wait, did. Did he just go down? Is he out? Like he just. He got stabbed through the chest. Because Loki is not moving. He has come to rest in the. In the treetops there. And he's bleeding and coughing and Regnir.

[Ed]

People die when they are killed.

[Stephen]

Yeah, that is true. Well, they don't necessarily die when they get stabbed through the chest or the heart, as we know from ample experience. And Ragnar is rushing to, I guess to attend to Loki. But it appears that the impact. You know, of course this was. Correct me if I'm wrong. This was caused by Raggoneer in the first place, right? The ice.

[Ken]

Yeah. Only Ragnar can melt the ice.

[Stephen]

Right? And so by. In. By hitting it. He is now engaged melt mode here. And so the ice is very rapidly turning into water. And Brooke is very excited. He's like, oh, look, look everyone. The ice has suddenly begun to melt. Princess Shuri. And we get a nice close up of her eyes closed still in the ice.

[Ken]

But it appears this is the most complicated Ragnar Goldberg machine ever. Yeah.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it really is.

[Ken]

Loki falls back, hammer in the air onto the ice, slides down, back to

[Ed]

the squirrel, surely breathing. I mean, her face is covered with band. Her mouth is covered with bandages. If Loki can see with bandages on, she can breathe.

[Ken]

That's true.

[Zach]

You know what bandages. We know what they do feel everything.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those beer pong trick guys were practicing this for like an hour before they got this shot.

[Ken]

What are they? The dude perfect guys?

[Stephen]

Yeah, whatever they're called.

[Sam]

Yeah, like the guys who just, like, bounce ping pongs off of, like, pots and pans.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think the one. The logical loophole that I at least came up with in my head canon is that Loki is also so ginormous, the chances of him landing on it are higher than you would think because he's so insanely large. I guess that would work better as a dragon, but whatever, I'm not gonna. Or the. What's it called? Nidhoggar.

[Ken]

But if Loki falls in Elbaf, does he make a sound?

[Zach]

Yes. Yes, he does.

[Stephen]

Definitely. Definitely.

[Delaney]

Yeah, Quite objectively, yes.

[Sam]

But if no one's around to hear it, that's. That's the. That's where it gets a Catholic bear

[Ed]

Pope in the woods.

[Zach]

What?

[Ed]

I was mixing jokes there

[Stephen]

on the next page. Luffy is clinging to the branch here, and he notices another of the little flame sprite things popping up off of his feathery cloak there. And he. He turns to Emu, who is doing the Ligma Bells thing again. Doing the. The hertz. The Hertz donut. And so Luffy, like it. It looks like he is just like, squishing the thing. Like he's just grabbing it with his hand straight through the little flame. But what he's actually doing is just getting a good old grab on the edge of the cloak so that he can throw it off and, you know, lighten himself up a little bit. And as he does so, the. Another, you know, big bolt of the. The black flame, the. The evil omen powers bursts out of Loki's hand, and it goes through. We can't even see the. The cape, but presumably, yeah, it's. It's homing in on where that little flame was as Luffy as a Luffy hops away from treetop to treetop, and we zoom in on Emu, but we hear some familiar music.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's what it was. Next page.

[Ed]

Yes. Back at the western village Sea Cloud Port. And it points out this Is close to the school library.

[Zach]

And this is team Zoro side story here.

[Ed]

Yeah, you hear? What are you doing here? You're one of the three demons. Straw Hat crew. And this is Summers talking. He says you were in the village earlier. What do you want? You're gonna get hurt. You're the ones who ruined a feast between good old friends, so. Or who is. Who's saying that? All right. This is Zoro Summers.

[Zach]

This is. No, the Summers.

[Ed]

Oh, yeah. And he says. Yeah. Summer says, so forget about it. Just 10 or 20 kids, that's all. How much could it cost? $10.

[Sam]

Damn it.

[Ed]

And Summers continues. My companion will be retrieving the brats in no time. And we'll be out of your hair. No fuss. And Zorro, sarcastic hoddle. Aha. Fancy that. My companion just went toward the village, so my guess is that yours ain't coming back. And Summer's like, yeah. And if I ask why Zoro, like, because he'll be dead. In one of the great Zoro lines, Also referring to Sanji as his companion is.

[Zach]

Although now I. So, yes, obviously, that is fuel. What's the word in Japanese? Steven. Oh, Steven will be kam.

[Stephen]

Erotica.

[Zach]

Yes, that's it.

[Ken]

Fujo Bake.

[Stephen]

No, I don't. Well, I don't remember. I don't recall the exact line. I'm sure it was like nakama or something like that.

[Zach]

I was just gonna say, though, if Zorro and Sanji, then are companions, the transitive property, Summers and Killing him also have to be companions, because that is what he's referring to. So for using that term.

[Stephen]

Oh, yes, that is. Yes, that is the implication.

[Sam]

And they were roommates.

[Ken]

We saw Killingham reach into Summers before, so they've been, you know, intimate.

[Sam]

Yeah, this. This panel, this composition is like redemption for that one. Like Law versus Blackbeard spread.

[Zach]

I was gonna say. This feels very different than what I've seen from Oda for, like, these kind of standoffs. I don't know whether I like it or dislike it, but it is. Certainly feels more like an experimentation here because you have the. The. The wide shot kind of down the middle portrait style, you know, and then

[Ed]

you like that Zorro with, like, his head cocked, stroking.

[Stephen]

It does have. It does have a very strong, like, talking heads in a visual novel sort of thing. They're just sort of plastered front and center as they talk.

[Sam]

Yeah, it's like the Persona portraits.

[Stephen]

Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

[Sam]

That's why I really like it because, like, it's got the. The kind of shot reverse Shot. And like, again, like, with.

[Delaney]

With.

[Sam]

With the background, the wide shot in the same image.

[Ed]

And.

[Sam]

And like, they're. They're, like, weirdly close for how Oda would normally do a page like this.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Sam]

In the page. Real Estate.

[Stephen]

Something about.

[Sam]

It's interesting. It stands out.

[Stephen]

Yeah. Something about Zorro's pose, too. It almost reminds me of that. You remember when he did that one color spread that was like, I'm gonna redraw all the, like, first appearances of all the straw hats. And so it was like familiar scenes, but he, you know, he redid them and it was like, you know, five years ago or 10 years ago or whatever it was. And it doesn't remind me of one of those where, you know, just because of the. The closeness of the angle and everything,

[Zach]

but it's like kind of a Luffy stance he's taking, which is not.

[Stephen]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ed]

Legs and the elbow, like, leaning on the.

[Zach]

And it's also kind of squat.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Is this kind of like what Emu did when he showed up? I feel like Oda has been really into the guy sitting atop a thing being menacing. I'm not saying it's not. He's just been very into it lately.

[Ken]

Standing on their twinkle toes.

[Zach]

This would be a really cool spread if Zorro didn't have those terrible goggles. Yeah, that's true.

[Ken]

Oh.

[Ed]

So to finish this off, summarize begins. Yeah. Do you have any idea how on top of our game we are? As he shoots a giant spiky vine at. At him, which Zoro deflects that with

[Zach]

a sword, or at least blocks it from hitting him. Yeah, Yeah. I guess that's what a deflection is. But I also noticed you use the Emu font. There is that intention. Or maybe not.

[Ken]

You.

[Zach]

I'm sorry. Yeah, sorry. Go ahead.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it was probably just, you know, a reaction to whatever font. You know, there's so many fonts that they use in the Japanese now, like, compared to when the series started. So,

[Zach]

Ken.

[Ken]

Okay. Over the western village, the rain was pouring down as though the sky itself had cracked in half. And we got a nice little Oda map here of the various ports. The branch, the school, the village. And there's a little rain cloud over the western village. And then Sanji begins to narrate these next whole pages. Okay. Cover the facts. Problem one, A monster bigger than the giants is taking the children away. Ooh, freaky. Yeah. Zaza Phreaky is back, and she is still picking up children left and right. And going through the town, we see all the different giants trying to stab her and stop her. Stop her progress with absolutely no avail.

[Delaney]

Meanwhile, Sanji is coming home. It's like she waited for me to get back.

[Ken]

Meanwhile, Sanji is taking a step back and lighting a cigarette in the rain. Very, very cool.

[Stephen]

That's what his bangs are for. To keep it dry.

[Ken]

He's having better luck lighting the cigarette than he did back in. Whole cake, that's for sure.

[Zach]

His bangs weren't long enough.

[Ken]

That's right.

[Zach]

Time has passed, Robin has learned.

[Ken]

And in response to that problem, Sanji replies, response, unfortunately, I won't be saving the kids. Um. As Zaza leans over and continues her rampage, then Sanji continues, problem two. Their wailing mothers are an unbearable sight. Response. Unfortunately, the monster is a woman. I can't kick her. And just more carnage of Zaza ripping through the village, punching the giants. The entire ground is flooded. The rain keeps coming down. It's like, there's not much to say about these pages, but they're really cool. The art is incredible. Oda is doing some awesome stuff with Zaza. I really appreciate it. And Sanji continues. Added note, the giant warriors refuse to give up on taking back their children. And we get a shot of one of the giants calling after Ripley. And Ripley's like, damn it, don't take him away from me. Colin and Ripley just.

[Zach]

This is amazing wrenching panel, this specific one.

[Ed]

Get away from her, you bit. Get away from him, you bitch. This is aliens.

[Stephen]

Oh God, it's really good.

[Ken]

Ripley in the suit now, and Zaza as the xenomorphic queen. All right. And Ripley is screaming after Colin. And we get a shot of all the children inside Zaza's body drowning. And Colin gets his head out for a split second and is like, mommy, I'm sorry. I got caught again.

[Ed]

Again.

[Zach]

It's been several times now.

[Ken]

Yeah, yes, exactly. Sanji continues, problem three. I don't want to see a woman's tears, but I won't take part in that. In that fight because.

[Sam]

And we turn the page and he says, you're the root of the problem. And I guess just like right off panel, was Killing Ham swooping in and you know, they're clashing. Sanji says, the giants might lose sight of you, but you can't escape me. And Killing him is grinning wildly. He's like, haha, you're tougher than you look. I'm putting a stop to. Or Sanji says, I'm putting a stop to all of this. Killingham says, you fool. There's an entire world of difference between toughness and immortality. And that is why you cannot beat me.

[Ed]

Every time I see that in text, you fool, I think of Gilbert Gottfried on Hollywood Squares.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Stephen]

Also, as we all should.

[Delaney]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. As we should. Yeah. That's the correct way to.

[Ken]

As is traditional.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Sam]

And that's why you cannot beat me, even if getting rid of me means that my powers will vanish. I suppose so. He's conceding that. Yes. Beating me will stop the operations.

[Ken]

Ah, bullets. My only weakness.

[Ed]

It worked on sugar. Should work on everyone.

[Stephen]

Defeated.

[Delaney]

My one weakness. Getting my ass.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Sam]

So go on and try it.

[Ed]

Kill him, Sanji. Proves or right. Do it for your companion.

[Sam]

Can. Can you eliminate the God of rain? Onward, my. Oh, sorry, I'm hurting my voice. Onward, my blustery deity. Take those brats away. And is that. Is this Zaza saying, like, ooh, very scary.

[Stephen]

No, that's. That's killing him because, you know, he's afraid of. Of this God of rain.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

Ooh, very scary,

[Delaney]

Zaza. Scary.

[Zach]

Sanji's looking like the sequel. Yes.

[Sam]

Sanji's, like, looking like a wet dog in the rain. He's like, well, I know what people are weak against. And, like, killing him is in, like, in hysterics. He's like, ha. What an amusing thing to say. Are you claiming you can use the color of the supreme king? And he's, like, jabbing with his spear.

[Ken]

Killing him. Spoilers don't give away your weakness.

[Sam]

Go on and kill me.

[Ken]

Like, Santi could have been bluffing. I know Tariki gets. Oh, you do know I went to kryptonite. How could you?

[Zach]

My one weakness.

[Sam]

I was wondering if this was, like, an established thing a few chapters ago that I forgot.

[Zach]

It was. It was many village weaknesses.

[Ed]

They can't shut the fuck up.

[Stephen]

That is true.

[Zach]

That. That was a very old episode title of this podcast, like, from 2009. Good villains don't know when to shut the fuck up. Or something like that. Yeah. How insane it's. They also, like, it took them a while to figure out that this is the weakness. So it's, like, really something we worked for that he could have just blurted out like this. Yeah, it's very funny.

[Stephen]

Regular force. I should have caught this one again

[Ken]

between him saying, like, oh, if you kill me, it might work. The powers might go away. And, oh,

[Zach]

this is all in character to me. Like, he is that blustering idiot. Like, that is the amusing part of killing him and especially his de. Acified form that we've been watching here. Anything Else. Sam.

[Sam]

I'm good.

[Zach]

Okay, then we'll move on into a flashback. Kind of. Sanji is getting. We're seeing the reaction of him getting thrown into a pile of debris. Let's say as he's. As he remembers, remembers, remembers. How do you expect to support your captain and Emperor of the sea? And Zoro was like, oh, sorry. So this was back. This was pre. Both flashbacks, right? Was this like or right after one of them? I need to find the chapter while we're talking.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I forget if it was before or after.

[Ed]

It was right.

[Ken]

Right before Loki's story. So right before that flashback. Yeah, yeah.

[Ed]

Gabon was there.

[Ken]

Yeah. It's like three, four years ago.

[Zach]

And Sanji comes in, he's like, hey, gramps, I know we're not talking about me, but what about me? Can I use Supreme Hockey? Supreme King Hockey. I'm so cool. It's like, I guess you have potential for it. However, in your case, for some reason, you possess a streak of. And I kid you not, I read this as not masochistic, but as. Oh, now I. Misogynistic is how I read it.

[Stephen]

Oh my God.

[Zach]

You possess a streak of misogynistic instability.

[Delaney]

I'm getting my comments every day.

[Ed]

Ouch.

[Zach]

We should. I don't care. That's what I'm calling it. You must be a king too, if you truly want to make Luffy the king of the pirates. Pirates. Pirates. And we head back to the to the present day as we see Sanji still a wet dog in the debris, saying, ugh, a king. Fine. I guess I'll respect women is what he's saying here. I guess. Anyway.

[Delaney]

Am I sliding that?

[Zach]

That was Sanji speaking. Delaney, stop. You're after me. Just because I'm saying things that are in isolation sound awful, Exploitable. God, there goes everything. And here we see the face off between two fonts of not great quality. Sorry, that. That emu font sucks. Underline, underline, underline.

[Ken]

It was the best of fonts. It was the worst of fonts.

[Delaney]

Comic Sans versus Papyrus tooth fonts.

[Ken]

Oh, no. The Undertale fandom is gonna go crazy.

[Zach]

Who would you vote in that? I feel like. Who would you guys vote for in that? I would say Comic Sansa.

[Ed]

Papyrus.

[Ken]

Papyrus.

[Sam]

Papyrus.

[Ed]

Isn't Papyrus the Avatar font?

[Zach]

Yeah, I would vote for Comic Sansa. They changed the font.

[Sam]

Yeah, the Avatar 1 font, at least.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Oh, they did change it. They fixed it. What did they choose now? Courier New. They just, you know, went down and found something else.

[Sam]

They're like Ryan Gosling's. Making fun of us. We have to.

[Delaney]

I know what you did, Ryan.

[Ken]

Gossip.

[Zach]

Okay, anyway, here is Luffy. Very serious, composed. I'm assuming they're both giant, but who knows? We have no. We have no frame of reference. And yeah, Luffy's ready to punch.

[Ed]

Yes. With the way his hair is falling. Emu looks especially emo there.

[Zach]

I was gonna say, you stole my joke again, Ed.

[Ed]

His hair. His hair is doing that flippy thing like that guy in that band does.

[Sam]

He's got the hair of, like, Captain Jack from the flashback.

[Ken]

And Luffy lost a foot to hypothermia, I think.

[Zach]

Yes, yes, that's what happened. He lost it to the dawn. That's what he did. Much like Mafioso member, anyway. And here's Emu. I assume it's impossible.

[Sam]

That'd be like a badass line for, like, shanks. Or like, somebody who lost a leg to say, like, I gave it up for the dawn. But like, D A W N. Oh, the dawn.

[Ken]

That's what Pedro said. Kind of.

[Sam]

Yeah, it's like. Or yeah, it's like. It's like kind of what he says to Whitebeard, which Hank says.

[Zach]

Anyway, it is Saint Nerona. Um, who knows what it says? It really is a f. I don't know. We'll never know who this person was.

[Ken]

Yeah. Looks like two A's, right? Yeah.

[Zach]

Versus Monkeyed Luffy, Emperor of the Sea and the King of the World, Saint de Bona and Saint Dibona. Says, there, there our joy. Boy, that's my best Emo. That's all I could do. And Luffy says, actually, Delaney, can you do this last Luffy line like you did a great Luffy on Mock to be able to match God.

[Delaney]

Emotional labor, here we come. All right. Yes.

[Zach]

I mean, that's. Yep.

[Delaney]

Quit calling me all these different names. I'm Luffy the man will be King of the Pirates.

[Zach]

Damn.

[Ken]

That's a class so good, Delaney.

[Ed]

That's a classic Kaiser Koi Naru Tokoda.

[Zach]

Yeah. Why would you do that in Japanese? So, yes,

[Ed]

I watched all those early episodes in Japanese, and I can remember that just by the sound of it. But yeah, it's a classic Luffy line.

[Zach]

So that's the chapter. I can't emphasize my thoughts on the font enough, but I will later.

[Delaney]

Do you mean italicize your thoughts on the font enough?

[Zach]

And bold and perhaps.

[Delaney]

And bold and underscore. Yeah, underline.

[Ed]

Not strike through. Never strike through.

[Delaney]

Never strike through.

[Zach]

You know what? Strikethrough could have only helped this font. Ed, what were your thoughts on the chapter? By the way, we're back next week with another chapter. Surprise. Everyone had.

[Delaney]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Thoughts.

[Ed]

There was a lot going on in this chapter, but I didn't think we'd get like the official. An official, like, basically like the. The fight card for. Seems like the Straw Hats aren't any closer to finding one piece. But we're fighting the. The King of the World now. Or Luffy is. Or Joy Boy. Don't. But don't call him all those different names. But yeah, as I said, great Zorro content in this chapter. And the Zoro Sanji thing is very funny to me. It's like. And the Gabon's there too. Not sure what he means by mathochistic instability, but misogynistic. Right? But overall, very good chapter. And this. This is. This. This arc is going places. I don't know where it's going next, though. I'm not sure what this place is. The rest of this.

[Zach]

Delaney thoughts.

[Delaney]

All right, well, I mean, you guys know that I've been the resident draggy ass bitch when it comes to these latest chapters, but I'll be honest. I think for some reason this chapter kind of reframed a few things for me. In the sense that I've been very vocal about how frustrated I've been about kind of like getting waylaid by certain things and certain characters not getting as much attention. And now I feel like. For some reason, I feel like the way that things were laid out in this chapter and how organized it felt kind of called into focus that like, oh, everyone's getting a moment here. Like, you know, Sanji's now getting this. I mean, granted, Sanji doing whatever it is he's about to do with either pretending he has Supreme King Haki or actually exposing that he might have it, because he could do either. Or Prodigious liar. But like, that. That brief moment to check in on him for some reason actually opened this up where it's like, okay, I think that with Brook's flashback and with Robin reuniting with Saul and Frankie seeing the fucking hell. The carving. You know what I mean?

[Zach]

Mural. Mural.

[Delaney]

The mural. Like, not monolith. Not monorail. Not the monorail.

[Ken]

Monorail.

[Delaney]

But like, okay, so it's more of a wano thing. So everyone's having or has had a moment and maybe this will open up. Now that we're in the cage match with Luffy and Imu, we're gonna start to see a bit more like we're in it now. So I really appreciated this chapter of that. I don't know if it obviously doesn't undo some of my earlier gripes, but I really liked a lot of the lay. I liked just kind of going beat by beat, checking in with each part of the group. It feels like we've been doing this fight, but I like that now we're delineating. Okay, it's a one on one scrap now. Again, it makes me feel like we're actually focusing in, which is what I've wanted to see. So I liked it. And also we have a literal Fuck Ice in one piece now, which I feel went uncommented on.

[Zach]

You know, it occurred to me and then I forgot because that's how my brain works. Steven, thoughts?

[Stephen]

Yes. Hooray. Operation Melt Ice was successful. Let's see. Yeah, I like this chapter. I thought this was a really satisfying one. It did kind of pick up right where I left off. And I was, I was sort of negative at the end of last chapter just because it felt like, you know, it was Luffy doing the thing, but it just felt like it was the, the minimum amount of creativity on Oda's part. And I, I feel like this one while, while also kind of playing the hits just executed on it a lot better. And it felt, it felt less like, oh, here's, here's like just, you know, the, the very stereotypical line from Luffy. And it felt more like. Yeah, that's the classic line that's the thing you want to hear, which is, you know, there's a fine line between the two. But this one, I, I did, I did enjoy seeing, you know, all the stuff. Getting to see Zorro and Sanji being cool and setting up their, their one on one fights and you know, allowing them to be the, the big hitters that, you know, the crew needs them to be. Especially when you're, when you're fighting what is undoubtedly, you know, the toughest, most dangerous opponent yet. I, I did like seeing that and I'm eager to see, you know, kind of what, what happens in those, uh, in those fights. But yeah, I don't know. Not a whole lot to like pontificate about, I guess. You know, probably the main mystery is just Oda kind of continue his continued campaign of like, how much can I show you of Emu's powers without explaining it and like giving a full context that actually ties all of these different, you know, powers and things that we've seen him doing together. But you know, it's, it's, it's fun. It's Exciting. Good. Good stuff. And I'm very happy that we will get another chapter next week now that. Now that Oda is done drawing in the sand. As.

[Zach]

As we talked about Delaney, I was thinking about the Operation Melt Ice, and I guess we just needed a Rube Goldberg machine the whole time. I think that.

[Stephen]

That. Yeah, that would have. That would also. I don't know what you guys are complaining about. I think it's cool that we have a battle between cyber Old English and AI generated Pirates of the Caribbean event flyer fonts. It's. It's great.

[Zach]

I did not know where you.

[Ken]

Where are you going with this?

[Delaney]

It's a nightmare to me. I've been. I've been in editing hell for, like, weeks now, and I'm like. Like, you should have known that wasn't composite. Well, it doesn't show. They look like A's.

[Zach]

It's like, it's. It's not. Yes, it definitely looks like A's, but also, like, I know people are gonna be like, why the hell are you talking about the font so much? Shut up. Whoever's saying that, shut up right now.

[Delaney]

Especially if you're. Thank you, Zach. Zach. Zack implied this. I mean, I do, actually. I like that they put the fancy fonts in. Honestly, like, that also, again, was kind of the reason. I'm like, okay, like, now, this is the. This is the start point where we have a set end point. The presentation was good, even if slightly illegible.

[Zach]

No, it's. It's that. What I was gonna say is it's the Ye olde English font mixed with like, ooh, it's spiky and emo. And ooh, look at. Look at me. I'm emu. That's what it says.

[Delaney]

Great emu voice.

[Sam]

Wow.

[Zach]

Spiky.

[Ken]

Look at me, look at me. I'm emu over here.

[Delaney]

I'm emu here.

[Zach]

Emo. Emu. Any other thoughts, Steven?

[Stephen]

No.

[Zach]

Okay. Sam,

[Sam]

I really like this chapter a lot. I think it just kind of works. The showdown panels, like, with Zoro and Summers and Luffy and Imu, like, there's a really refreshing bluntness to them that I like. I think Oda is really struggling to draw IMU in, like, three dimensional poses. And like. Like, he. Like, there's like, a lot of, like, really straight on, like, close ups of his eyes. And like the. This over the shoulder shot of his is like, there's kind of no way to draw that without his wings, like, covering him up and stuff. And so, like. Like, he comes across, like, very Kind of flat, but. But it just kind of kind of forces the. The compositions to be very utilitarian, which I actually think is something that one piece is needed. And then I. And. But then you also get like the Zaza, which is just like an. Actually a gorgeous drawing. Yeah. So, like, I just think. I think the. I think the beats are satisfying. I think that the, you know, we're. We're setting this up as like a proper Emu versus Luffy fight, which is like, really funny because we know. Because it's. Because King of the World versus Emperor of the Sea sounds like that should be like the highest stakes battle that could ever happen in one piece. And we know that this is not the final battle of the. Of the whole series. So I'm interested in what's. What has to happen for this fight to end in a really satisfying or interesting way that. That feeds into the. The final arc that I'm very curious to see. And I hope there's something fun in store for us. And then Sanji. I definitely take this as like, you know, Sanji is about to learn how to use Conqueror Saki, like next chapter or something. But. But the. That. That masochistic instability. I think what that's referring to is like. Like how. How like Sanji was determined to sacrifice himself for. For Zeff and stuff like that. Like, he's not a. Yeah. Like he. He's. He's not somebody who would put his dreams ahead of, you know, someone else's.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam]

Or someone else's. Or even like, you know, like. Like he. Like he. Like he feels like he has to suffer for something before he can be, you know, like. Like many characters in the series, he feels like, yes, the. There's some guilt that he's. He's trying to pay off. And, and he. And unlike Zorro and Luffy, like, he probably is always kind of carrying that with him a little bit. You gotta gain some confidence.

[Stephen]

You gotta stop being a prince and start being a Kang.

[Sam]

Yeah, pretty much. And the ice joke with Brooke and Frankie, that got a gut bust out of me.

[Delaney]

Good bit.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I love that,

[Zach]

Ken.

[Ken]

All right. I love this chapter. I want to hit a couple things here that we've kind of touched on already, but. But I really want to get into this. First of all, I love the fact that we're getting a proper emu Luffy one on one fight. It feels like a Peter Parker versus Bonesaw, where I've got you for three minutes because Imu seems to have a bit of a time crunch. I don't think it's going to end in a defeat or a win on either side. I think that it's going to go crazy until time runs out, whatever that may be. By expecting that to happen, I liked seeing how Imu's powers work a little bit more. It's kind of like a video game logic, where when you're playing Dark Souls and you go and see a boss the first time, and it does an attack that you can't dodge, you're like, I didn't know it was gonna do that. How am I supposed to dodge that? The fact that Luffy got to watch how Loki got hit, like, Loki took the hit, and then Luffy's like, oh, that's how the homing mechanic works. He rips off the cape, the cape gets attacked by the sword. So it's kind of like a little video gamey there, which I really liked. For me, the biggest stuff was the Sanji stuff. This chapter, I loved all the Sanji stuff. I even requested to read the Sanji pages. I feel that entire layout that I stole. No, no, no, no, it's fine.

[Sam]

You got the first one, I got

[Ken]

the more important ones. But that entire part where he's narrating is so cinematic to me. Like, I picture that how that's going to be animated or how that would look. And in my head, this is a very weird reference for those of you who have played the early rollercoaster tycoon games. In those games, when it is pouring rain and there are still people screaming on the roller coasters, you can hear the rain and the screaming. I picture that very faded out as Sanji is narrating what's going on because the rain's still pouring, the kids are still screaming. But in his head, it's a little bit quieter, and he's reading off his checklist of what he's doing.

[Zach]

If only I had more maintenance people to get rid of all that vomit, that would have helped the park so much.

[Ken]

To us as the reader. Yes, it's obvious. Okay, yeah, take out Killingham. Make Zaza go away. But for Sanji, who has no idea who Killingham is or what the power, he has no idea what any of these things do. The fact that he's figuring it out in real time, it's very satisfying for him to take a step back, analyze, and go for the root of the problem. He could save the women. He tried saving the children again. But those are treating the symptoms, not treating the disease. And the disease is Killingham. So to me, that's all extremely satisfying. And I was alluding to this earlier when we were talking about the COVID page. I think knowing what Killingham's power is, taking what you fear the most from making your dreams or your nightmares of reality, and then taking what Gabon is saying about, hey, you have some stuff you gotta take care of, whether it be misogyny, toxic masculinity, whatever his problem is. But I think that killing him is going to create sleep tits of Jerma. I think he's. I think Sanji has a bunch of hang ups still about his. Because he hated wearing the suit. He's like, I'm not gonna wear the suit again. I'm not gonna wear the suit. Then when he got the bonitis, he's like, oh, I hate my Germa body. I hate what I like when I become. I think he has a lot of self hatred for himself and his family. And I think in developing his awakening his supreme king Haki. What if you get literal demonic bad sleep versions of Jerma, have Sanji take out his anger, frustration or whatever pent up he has inside against Germa and really reconcile that and then it leads into Killingham again being his own downfall. Like, you're giving Sanji the perfect enemies to kind of like work out his issues. So that's why I was like, okay, it's cool that Jerma is in the COVID page and now, okay, how can Sanji get past all his hangups? I'm like, all right, Oda wants us to keep Germa in mind because I think they're gonna come back in some degree.

[Sam]

That's interesting. I think that's a very interesting idea.

[Ken]

Yeah, it just works well with that power.

[Zach]

That feels like one of those ideas where I'm gonna be like, oda should have really done that.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I was gonna say, I, I don't know that I would see him. I don't know that that's the most likely thing that he would do. But I like the inference of drawing, you know, connecting those dots.

[Ken]

Yeah, it's me. Definitely theory crafting more than probably is necessary. I'm just trying to figure out how a fight will work because will killing him just keep putting Zaza like in the middle of him and Sanja, like, you can't hit her like and get in the way. Would he go right? Would he go right for Killing Hand? Like Killing Hand has to do something to counteract Sanji a little bit more.

[Sam]

I think it would be, I think it would be interesting because right now this feels like like we're just repeating the. The Wano beat of like you're dealing with the. The. The stealth black can.

[Ken]

Yes.

[Sam]

Crushing it. But like. Like if we. If we like level that up and it's like a more dramatic version of that for his like proper.

[Stephen]

Like.

[Sam]

Like there's a little. Little trilogy of arcs for like the. This last few arcs have been like a kind of like an escalating trilogy of.

[Ken]

Yes.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Or something like that.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Ken]

I think there's something there. And the fact that if you think about Judge is King of Jerma and that makes. Sanji is technically a prince by any means. He's got King's blood in him and his King. There's a lot of stuff there that I could connect lines to all day. But I think there's something there. And if Oda's doing what I think he's doing, I think it's really masterful how he's building it up slowly. I just hope that these fights get full. We don't really get the full chapter fights anymore like the days of Alabasta. I'm hoping that these get the full flesh out fights they deserve. But we'll see.

[Zach]

I think we did in Wano. I have to look back.

[Sam]

Well yeah, we absolutely got that in Wano.

[Ken]

The King and Queen fights definitely did. And then Kaido Luffy got enough too.

[Zach]

So I think that's.

[Sam]

Overall I feel like the Sanji and Zoro fights can. I feel like they can be pretty brief. I think you can get away with. I think you can do a lot with a little here.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ken]

It's mostly gonna be Zoro. Cause Zoro knows he has Conqueror's hockey now how to use it against Summers. And it's gonna be Sanji trying to awaken his mid fight. So I think it's gonna be two very cool dynamic fights. It's like learning powers on the fly. So I love this chapter.

[Sam]

And then Usopp's on the side. Like I'd love to get a fight someday.

[Zach]

Usopp's side, the hammer is right next to him now. The hammer is right next to him. I mean it's a squirrel, but it's right next to him. Any other thoughts?

[Ken]

I really like this chapter. I thought it was very well done. The end.

[Zach]

Stephen.

[Stephen]

Usopp's been reduced to just giving bad survival advice. Like you can breathe in ice and things like that. So yeah, it's tough days.

[Zach]

So we were asking the question of oh, what? When did the Sanji thing happen with Gabon? The answer is chapter 1152. It is the chapter where the big flashback starts. Like the end of that one. Context is interesting here as well. Kaban says, seems like there's more than one of you with Supreme King Hockey that Sanji does this. Who, me? No, no one's talking. And Gabon's like, you there, swordsman. You seem quite at ease with it. And he continues, hockey is a power that. That's only useful when you consciously control it. How do you expect to support your captain and Emperor of the Sea without knowing that? And he's like. And Zora's like, what? Which is. Which actually adds. And then he says, what about me? Which adds to the kind of. The point that Ken said was like very interesting about this chapter. And it's that, you know, the big three are always going to get the most attention. I think we should probably just resign ourselves to that fact. But Sanji is the only one amongst them with any brain cells that function fully. Am I wrong? I mean, like, look, Luffy and Zorro have some smarts, but like, Sanji is. Sanji is the one who like actually thinks things through.

[Sam]

Sanji's the most self conscious or the most self aware.

[Ken]

He's a sensitive boy.

[Zach]

Misogynism aside. All that aside.

[Delaney]

Misogynism.

[Zach]

That's what I said.

[Ken]

I can forget a lot of things, but I can't forgive misogynism.

[Zach]

No, I know. I was gonna say he is probably the most human of the three of them. Like, no, in that.

[Stephen]

Like a real human boy.

[Zach]

People like Sanji exists. They act and think and you know. Yes, he's. They're not cyborg people, but they're Pinocchio. Yeah.

[Delaney]

Vin Smokyo.

[Ken]

Vin Smokyo.

[Zach]

Writing that one down.

[Delaney]

I thought it. And then I was like, I don't really want to say it. And then as soon as I was

[Zach]

like, that's the one. It's a good one. It's a good one.

[Ken]

Oh, that's so good, Delaney.

[Zach]

Anyway, yeah, my thoughts on this chapter, I. I really agree with everything said. That said, I think the reason this chapter was so enjoyable is it was a straw hat chapter. I think that you could really fix any issues that you have with the chapter by focusing on the main characters of the story. Believe it or not.

[Delaney]

Crazy how that works out.

[Zach]

Not to say that when, you know, like the Loki flashback has some great moments and is, you know, I'm not saying it's negative because there's no straw hats in it. I'm not saying that Oda can't write a story that's Compelling without straw hats in it. Kuma is a great example. I mean, yes, Luffy shows up at one point, but. But that said, they're your main characters and, like, there's a reason they're your main characters. And leaning into that, I think, you know, is always a positive. And I think that helped. Like, you know, even if Brooks flashback were hypothetically missing something, I think the fact that it focused on a straw hat would have lifted it up. And I think, you know, that's true with this chapter as well. Like, I don't really have anything negative to say about it, despite how Sam has completely ruined it for me with the lick My bells, I believe is the term.

[Ken]

Emo bells. Emu bells.

[Delaney]

Ligma bells.

[Sam]

Zach.

[Zach]

No. Isolate that footage. No, I don't like any of this. Yeah, it's. This is. This is more than anything a fight chapter. And it's. Or setups to fights. And I think it does it very well. I agree that artistically the Zaza stuff is just out of this world. And the Ripley, that one Ripley panel, like, broke me again. Parent problems. But, like, it also made me like, Sanji, come the fuck on. I know what you're trying to do here, but still, you could sum up

[Delaney]

this whole arc like that. Oh, how did Elbaf go? Parent problems.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Delaney]

Timmy fell down a fucking well again. The rain. God.

[Ken]

Well, she threw. She threw him off that well.

[Delaney]

He was hanging over a well for five months while we learned about the human rights incident for a few weeks.

[Zach]

To be fair, Zaza is a well, so.

[Ken]

All right, kids, there's a pop quiz after this test. You've been paying attention.

[Delaney]

The well ate Timmy.

[Zach]

The well ate Timmy.

[Delaney]

He came back for revenge.

[Zach]

Anyway, I don't know if I have much else I want to say about this chapter. I think it's all been said. I love the straw hats. Everything they did. Oh, we. The only thing we didn't mention is that Brooke was about to do a skull joke. Like, specifically. Not just that he was not just this running joke. Like he can't feel anything. But I am assuming, or at least I imagine it would if I were, you know, still alive or if I weren't dead or something along those lines. But I do. I don't know, Stephen. Have you noticed the cutoff panels happening more like. Like humor wise. I feel like. I mean, it happens sometimes for plot reasons, but I feel like it's been more of a referring to what specific comedic style.

[Sam]

So like, Brooke Brooks word bubble getting kind of covered up.

[Stephen]

Oh, by Nami cutting him off maybe. I mean. Yeah, I think he's done a bit of that recently, but you know, I don't know.

[Zach]

Anyway, Fixer Fawn Soda. Get your house in order. What are you doing? That's it. That's all I got. What are you guys? Anything Good. Good to move on to the next. Really.

[Stephen]

Yeah. I really enjoyed killing him too. He was very Brian Drummond in this.

[Zach]

Yeah, I'm. I'm sad I did not mention the you fools specifically. Yes.

[Stephen]

Yeah. And the. What an amusing thing to say is. Is that that was a lot of fun to. To work on that dialect.

[Zach]

Is Brian Drummond still working or. Yeah, I think he is.

[Sam]

He's making cameos in Dragon Ball super like six years ago.

[Zach]

Oh, okay. Six years ago.

[Stephen]

Making cameos on Cameo.

[Zach]

I hope.

[Stephen]

Probably.

[Delaney]

I hope he making cameos in Dragon Ball Super.

[Zach]

I'm just hoping that they get Brian Drummond to do killing him. Because that would I think be pretty great. That's all I have to say. Okay, that'll do it for Manga recap. We'll see you on the next segment. This is the Piece Together segment where we take your questions, comments and theories and settle the debate. Why is Comic Sans the worst? Let's start with Ken.

[Ken]

We are doing disp. This is where we read all your questions on our Patreon questions on our public server in the dispiece section. Correct. Is that way of phrasing it?

[Zach]

That's a way of phrasing it over explaining it.

[Ken]

Not the best.

[Zach]

I think you caught yourself in the middle of 10.

[Ken]

I was like ah, this is not great. I'm committing. Anyway, we're actually going to read some older questions first. We actually missed a couple disk pieces from previous weeks when they were off week. So we're gonna go through these quick and then we'll go to ones.

[Zach]

They're even better than the one. No.

[Ken]

Yes. They've gotten better with age. I'm sure all these will apply now. Let's find out. Our first one is from June 7th from USOPP the Great. Hey ho. Whoever is broadcasting this week. Question for Steven. Slightly veering from the topic of one piece, I would like to ask Steven about his work on Yotsuba over the years. The mangaka also did Azumanga Dia another great manga to read and anime to watch. Maybe talk a little bit about Yotsuba her adventures as well as the beautiful hyper realistic background scenes and the fun characters. If you could tell the One piece fans about this great manga that they may have never heard of. But their children would love also as a generator of memes. Also, I heard the series ends with the current volume. Is that correct?

[Stephen]

Even Yotsuba? I don't think so, no.

[Zach]

He's just very slow to publish.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, they come out very infrequently. I mean, gosh, what. What better pitch can I give than what. What you just said in that question? But Drew.

[Zach]

Yeah, beautiful background, Stephen.

[Stephen]

Yes, I do a lot of good work on those. On those backgrounds. But, yeah, no, it's a joy to work on it. I. I had the pleasure. So. So the. The story My. My involvement with this is Azumanga Daio, which was the first one, obviously. I think. Well, I don't know how many people these days have seen it, but back in the 2000s, that was like one of the most prominent. Like, everybody knew Azumanga Daio, and it was one of the. The prominent, like, gag anime specifically. And it's a pretty faithful adaptation of the. The manga itself. And it was, I believe it was an adv joint originally, which they had the anime manga. And then they went out of business and Yen Press ended up scooping up the license for the manga. And so I was working with them and they let me work on the all in One. The, you know, all the all in One volume of the Azumanga Daio manga, which was actually quite intimidating to do at the time just because it is such a kind of staple. And a lot of those gags are very, you know, very memorable, very famous. But yeah, I got to do that. That was awesome. And then they did not. It was like they got the Yotsuba license as well. And it was another case where, like, okay, there were already four or five volumes or six volumes or something like that published, and they had someone else who was doing it for them, volume per volume, by volume. But they still wanted to republish all of the old volumes. And so I did get to fill in some of those early. I think it was volume two and three that I got to work on with. With Yotsuba, which is really cool, but I wasn't doing the. The ongoing ones. And then I think actually I think the translator, like, passed away. And so they ended up giving me like, the, you know, the. The regular assignments starting with volume 10 or so. But yeah, it's a. It's super fun to work on. I just think it has such a. A wonderful voice like. Like getting to. To write the dialogue for Yotsuba specifically and like the way that her. Her dad and the other adults around her like, talk to her and they, like, sort of humor her and sort of just roll with her weird things that she says. Is. Is so charming. And it's so fun to. To. To. To massage all of that and get it just right in the dialogue. So it's. It's fantastic. I mean, I feel like everybody's probably knows about it already or should know about it, but. Yeah, if you hadn't. It's a. It is an easy 10 out of 10 manga, for sure. It's a. It's a great. So definitely a highlight of my career to get to work on it.

[Zach]

I. I think I mentioned this. I don't remember if I mentioned this on air or off air, but I read this initial. I read Yotsuba originally when just before I had my eldest, and now he's getting close to. How old is she in this again? She's five. Five. Yeah. Okay. So he is her age now. And I'm like, this new volume, I think that was like, when the last volume came out. It was like, right before my daughter was born. And like one before was right before my son was born. So it's like a very long cap. Like. Yeah, I, like, I started reading this and he was negative, whatever. And now he's the same age as where it was. Kind of crazy.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Which is like, I'm scared to read this latest volume because I know I will be weeping.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it's. It's crazy because it is so understated. Like, it's not like a really sappy manga, but it does. It does have this, like, nuclear level, like, emotional impact to it. Whether, like, when he does lean into something that is a little bit more like, wistful and. Yeah, man, it just hits really hard.

[Zach]

Like the backpack is, I think, from the last one.

[Stephen]

Yeah, yeah, that was the previous.

[Zach]

That doesn't spoil if you don't know the context, but that chapter. Very good.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Ken, go ahead.

[Ken]

All right, next up, we have another one from 67 2026. This is big Mike. This is in response to our cover story Talk. And Big Mike asks, do you think the information Ace got on Blackbeard from the top secret Navy intelligence ship Ace burnt down had any info linking Teach to Rox and Ace? Teach to Rox and Ace ended up preventing the world government from finding out Teach is Rox's son?

[Zach]

No.

[Stephen]

Yeah, they needed. They needed paperwork to prove that Teach looked like the guy with his exact same face.

[Zach]

It was the Bonnaro island thing, I think. In all likelihood.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because I think that's what Happens next with Ace. Right. I think you like, trace that storyline.

[Ken]

Yeah, that would make sense.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ken]

All right. I mean, it's.

[Stephen]

Yes, it's tempting to. To imagine that. That, that would be a get out of jail free card for Oda to explain. Yeah. Why they. Nobody connected.

[Zach]

He lost those. To be fair. How did no one know what was in this letter?

[Ken]

I think the world government's playing the long con when Blackbeard tries to do his shit. Like, of course we knew it was you. We knew the entire time.

[Zach]

Like, no, if there's one thing I know from real life, it's that government bureaucracy sucks. They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

[Stephen]

That's true.

[Zach]

Especially the higher, like that level of it. That's not. That's not getting through.

[Ken]

Yeah, definitely not.

[Zach]

That's not happening.

[Ken]

All right, next up, we have Matt R. From June 21st. Hey, Opp, with the manga on break this week, I thought we could talk about the One Piece and other manga. I read Roboco and always get a kick when One Piece references pop up. I really got a kick out of the Robin reference and the Knock Up Stream. Do you ever. Do you ever get notified of these references?

[Stephen]

I do. Well, sometimes I do because I. I'm friends with the translator. And so if he's ever not sure about something, I'll just get a dm like out of nowhere that's like, hey, does this mean anything to you? And it'll. It'll just be some One Piece reference. And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's, you know, that's chapter 54. And then he'll be, you know, then he can go on his Viz account, his Shonen Jump subscription, and be like, ah, there it is. Okay, cool, thanks. So, yeah, sometimes I get a little heads up when. When Roboco is doing a. A One Piece reference.

[Ken]

That's very fun. All right, next up, we got a ice. Ice Fisher tenacity from June 21st. Hi, OPP. Even though there's no chapter, this week is still really special to me because I'm in Japan for the very first time. Tokyo has been an absolute blast, humidity be damned. Now onto Sendai. And in the spirit of First, I wanted to make this my very first disc piece too. Hey, from Egghead to Elbaf, I've loved listening to the pod. Thanks for everything. Here's to another six years, probably until the end of the manga.

[Stephen]

Well, we really ruined that by skipping his first question because I think we read a different one last week, but

[Zach]

Ice Fisher Tenacity has done lots of non disc piece one, so.

[Stephen]

Yeah, that's true.

[Sam]

Yeah, you've heard that name before for sure.

[Ken]

Yes. This is their official. That was their official. Welcome to Patreon as a member of the DIS piece fleet.

[Stephen]

Yes. Thank you for. Thank you for subscribing.

[Zach]

Yeah, sorry. It took us three weeks or whatever. Two weeks.

[Ken]

That's why we have an archivist who comes back with the stuff.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

In Japan.

[Zach]

Yeah, that sounds fun. Although the humidity I have felt and it is bad.

[Ken]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

It's a rough time of year to. To be there.

[Zach]

June is better than August and I could tell you that.

[Stephen]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

From experience, probably. I've been in. I've been there in May and I've been there in August and damn it, do not go in August.

[Stephen]

Yeah, that's. That's true. The only time I was there was in August, so it was rough, I will say.

[Zach]

Like I went to school in D.C. which is like the. One of the most humid. It's a. It was a swamp. It was. And it is again. And it's bad. And Japan somehow. Yeah. And many people are saying that. And Japan is somehow much, much worse. It's crazy. It's crazy. And I say that having had like four 100 plus degree days here in 80,000% humidity and somehow. Anyway, I'm done complaining about the weather. Go ahead. Sorry.

[Ken]

I'm just laughing because the last DIS piece we read was from Ice Fisher. Tenacity. Hey, Hopp. I'm back in the States today, so it makes much more sense with their first DIS piece. And then it's even more fitting.

[Delaney]

It's like they never even left.

[Ken]

Exactly. It's more fitting because Ice Fisher is actually our first just speaks for this week's perfect, perfect segment. All right. Ice Fisher has asked me to do this in my best Wrestlemania announcer voice, so bear with me here.

[Zach]

He knew it was gonna be you, Ken.

[Ken]

In this corner, weighing in at 800 years of clandestine domination, the ink blob with eyes that just won't die. St. Nerona IMU. And facing off against him, standing at 10 meters off the ground, the excitable emperor who puts the D in destruction. The man, the myth, the monkey, Straw hat.

[Delaney]

Loofy.

[Ken]

Let's get ready to rumble. Hi, Opp. All joking aside, if Oda is going to go so far as to literally give this matchup a title card, how can I not be excited for what's coming? I'd like to ask that if this chapter opens the doors to Sanji with Supreme King hockey. Who else do you think is next in line? My hope is for Koby with Conquerors. Then a winky face.

[Stephen]

Koby would have the Cop Currors. No, that doesn't really work.

[Ken]

Well, he already has the observation. Right? Kobe has observation hockey and he must have Armin hockey. Right? Right.

[Delaney]

Stephen. They call that Oinkerer's hockey.

[Stephen]

That's really good. Yeah.

[Ken]

These are bastards,

[Delaney]

Dude.

[Stephen]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Ken]

Like, I don't think anyone else.

[Zach]

I was muted talking for how long?

[Stephen]

Not in the. Yeah, maybe not on the. On the straw hat crew.

[Zach]

No one even told me I was muted.

[Ken]

I didn't see, so I was. I was still laughing at.

[Zach]

No. How dare you delete his initial joke. It's it. I wrote it down, so I don't know if that got through. I don't know. Take this as you want. Will. One piece Wiki says Supreme King users. I'll say as fast as I can. Shanks Luffy, Rayleigh Hancock, Doflamingo, Chin Zhao. Really? Lin Lin.

[Sam]

That was like the whole thing their fight was about.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Katakuri Kid, Sengoku, Kaido, Zoro, Yamato, Ken, Warcury, Mars, Venus, Geronimo, Kaban, Emu, Loki, Newgate, Ace, Odin, Roger Joyboy, Harold Zabek, Saturn, and non canonically, whoever the fuck Naguri is. And Douglas Bullet.

[Ken]

Who is Naguri from Naguri?

[Zach]

What?

[Sam]

I thought you actually knew who it was.

[Ken]

I had no idea.

[Stephen]

Yeah, Roboco.

[Zach]

A former pirate captain that lives. A former pirate captain that lives. Lived in the gray terminal 12 years ago. What? I'm even more confused.

[Sam]

Oh, is this like from the. From the Burn D World movie or something? Or.

[Stephen]

Shut the up, Wiki writer.

[Zach]

It's not their fault. It's a filler episode. Like.

[Stephen]

Look, I'm just. I'm just playing the hit again.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, Ken. What's next?

[Sam]

Law will get it at some point.

[Zach]

No, he's dead.

[Stephen]

Oh, he doesn't already.

[Ken]

He's dead. He's been dead for years.

[Sam]

No, he's. He's no kid. Kid is dead. Law is like on like Beppo's back.

[Delaney]

Sam. It's been 25 years.

[Ken]

Polar bears can only swim so long, Sam. Have you not seen the polar ice caps melting?

[Zach]

I hate to tell you, Wall's on an island upstate somewhere. He's not.

[Delaney]

He's playing around with a lot of other doctors and he has all this space to.

[Zach]

He's up there with a polar bear. Like it's it's the island from fed

[Delaney]

him lots of cheeseburgers before they brought him up. He's really happy up there.

[Ken]

He doesn't even know they travel onto the farm.

[Zach]

We probably need to give Joe this conversation, if anyone.

[Ken]

Yes.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Stephen]

They gave him lettuce instead of a bun. Okay, idea.

[Ken]

Good pull, Stephen.

[Sam]

What if Beppo develops Conqueror's hockey and while he's swimming in the ocean, he uses the Conqueror's hockey and it ejects him out of the water and he lands?

[Stephen]

That would be sick.

[Zach]

Thank you, Harrison Ford.

[Ken]

That's not how the Force works.

[Zach]

I assumed you were doing that, but what's next, Ken?

[Ken]

All right.

[Delaney]

Conquerors hockey melts steel beams.

[Stephen]

Okay, we did that.

[Zach]

Let's get sky to father.

[Ken]

No, I'm waiting it down. Next up, the straw hats. Say fuck Ice. That's the name. Hello, my fellow masochists and wailing mothers. What an awesome chapter that was. Loved Zorro having confidence in his wife to take down Killingham. And I love Luffy getting angry about all the names he's been called. He's just Ken. I'm. Fuck, he's just Ken. I mean, Luffy and Luffy really went and let his little piggies out for this fight. He said no boots and no sandals. I guess he must be mad about Shu. Pauses for uproarious laughter and applause.

[Zach]

That's just.

[Ken]

Anyway, speaking of clothes, I know Zorro's goggles seem to be a hit or miss among some fans. They're a miss. But what clothing accessories would you like to see? The straw hats rocking. A long scarf for Robin. A boa for Frankie? Maybe a panama hat for Jinbe. Thanks and have a great week. You too.

[Sam]

Trilby fedoras,

[Ken]

m'. Lady.

[Delaney]

Frankie, drug rug I saw.

[Ken]

What is that?

[Zach]

I don't know what that is.

[Delaney]

Like, you know, like the shag sweatshirts.

[Ken]

Oh, you don't know.

[Delaney]

Like a drug rug.

[Ken]

Gotcha.

[Ed]

Gotcha.

[Zach]

Oh, I know what you mean. Oh, yeah. I saw a five year old the other day wearing a panama hat and it was the funniest sledding. I don't know cute. But it was very funny.

[Stephen]

Somebody should have like, bandana.

[Zach]

Yeah. Does Zorro has a bandana? I mean, on his head?

[Stephen]

Yeah, but like. Like the one that you tie around your neck and covers like the lower half of your.

[Sam]

Oh, I see.

[Zach]

Sanji would do that.

[Delaney]

A cravat for Sanji.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's better.

[Ken]

I think a lot of them could use more fanny pack. I feel like Chopper Nami Usopp would Be serious here.

[Zach]

I know the fanny pack came back. It's still stupid and looks stupid.

[Delaney]

Maybe I'm just personally, Ken has landed on a point in that chopper would look cute with a little fanny pack because he is a doctor and he needs his tools.

[Ken]

Thank you.

[Zach]

He has a backpack, and it's an adorable backpack. Little backpacks are very cute.

[Stephen]

That's true.

[Delaney]

Little backpacks are very cute. But also hip. Hip pouch. I had to call them that when I worked at Disney World, you know, because fanny is not kosher over here. So they're like, don't call it a fanny pack. You gotta call it a hip pouch. They gotta move your hip pouch. And of course, everyone was wearing them in 2017. So when you say that to people, sounds weirder.

[Zach]

Yeah, sounds worse.

[Sam]

Sounds like a very advanced kangaroo.

[Zach]

I was gonna say I got a

[Delaney]

lot of weird looks.

[Stephen]

Should give Jim BAE a hip pouch.

[Delaney]

A generous hip pouch for Jim bae.

[Ken]

A generous hip pouch for Jim bae.

[Delaney]

He's got a lot of hip for that pouch.

[Ken]

Chopper can ride in Jim Bae's hip pouch.

[Zach]

What's the next question?

[Ken]

All right.

[Sam]

Like a sidecar on a motorcycle.

[Ken]

Yeah, exactly. This is from Matt. That.

[Delaney]

ARR.

[Ken]

Hey, Opp. Loved the chapter, loved Zoro's banter with Summers. While I am excited for Sanji to level up, I feel like this pushes Usopp's opportunity for character development. I was really hoping he could have face killing am. Or at least had some of his fears manifest. Then he had to face them. At least he is close to Ragnir, and maybe he has the opportunity to use him. Only time will tell.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Ken]

Yeah. I mean, this goes back. We've been saying this all our. We want Usopp to do more on Elbaf, but I feel like it's the same conversation back on Egghead. Like, oh, Frankie should do more on Egghead. Like, I think we've all built up these. I don't say unrealistic expectations, but, like, if we keep waiting for those moments, we're gonna keep being disappointed.

[Zach]

I will say, but it's a different

[Delaney]

thing with Usopp, because obviously, like, it's been since, you know, since we were in the double digits that it was a thing with him. But I see what you're saying. I don't necessarily disagree.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Delaney]

But this is what I was thinking when I said that the. For some reason, even though, like, I think when I first read this weird divvy into Sanji thing with Supreme King Haki, I was like, jesus Christ. Literally any character except for Usopp, huh? But now I think that, no, for some reason, because we've had this weird. We've had this journey with Brook. We were having this thing with Sanji, and then we. Earlier on, when we got here, we had all this stuff with Robin. And now, granted, I don't have like an encyclopedic memory of who got to do what during Wano or Egghead, but I like that we're getting these sort of pockets of focus. And part of me has kind of now gotten and some renewed hope that, like, okay, are we gonna see Usopp do something? I mean, I don't know if I want him to have Raggoneer, but like, it's in proximity. The window's not closed until we're off the island. You know, like, it's not. It's not a done deal till we're gone. So I'm willing to give it a bit more time, if that makes sense. The funniest thing that could happen is that he gets the last blow on Imu, because they've already had Luffy. They've already, like, hear me out. They've already had Luffy punch him in the face. So it's like, all right, it's not about whether he can get a hit on him. It would be a really great bit if. If Usopp, either with or without the Hammer, nailed the last hit on Emu and then accidentally made himself more important at his job again.

[Zach]

And Elbafin is a especially. Yeah, I mean, the one thing that Elbaf has actually, particularly that the initial flashback aside, like, Elbaf has been really good at giving the Straw Hats some real standout moments and keeping them, if not center focus, at least like in the picture, which Egghead does okay. Wano doesn't do a lot of the time. Like, they are secondary characters in Wano, you could like Wano, but the straw hats are not front and center for most of it. Onigashima stuff, I guess. Maybe more so. But it's really not a story about them.

[Delaney]

Between the Wano cast and the Straw Hat cast, it's like the Wano cast has definitely got a bit more to do. Which is fair because we've been collecting those characters over the course of the past, like three, four arcs, all sort of converging on this point. And then the thing with the straw Hats is not necessarily that they all have some major new shit to do. It's that, oh, they're all back together and solving a problem we're not paying that much attention to. Them. We're not like, what does Jinbe think about this situation? Like, you know, know, I always think they're all just. They're all just collaborating. But I. I have noticed the difference is what I'm saying.

[Zach]

Yeah, me too.

[Stephen]

I have. I have faith in this. In this case, like, we've had many arcs post time Skip where, you know, everybody thinks, oh, man, this is going to be like, this straw hat is going to be, like, the central figure in this arc. And then, like, Oda has this kind of weird, like, you know, plausible deniability thing where it's like he's acting like, well, I don't know why you guys thought that, like, this, you know, Frankie was going to be, like, the central character of Elbaf or of Egghead, I should say. And it just does not, you know, doesn't happen. Like, Zorro was not particularly central to Wano, for example. And so. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he saw the Grim Reaper. And. Yeah, so, like, I'm normally, I would be skeptical. I would be like, yeah, I don't know if Oda's gonna. Gonna, you know, make good on this sort of implicit promise. But he. He started off Elbaf with like, you know, Usopp being like, you know, eyes shining like, oh, my God, we're finally getting to Elbaf and having all the flashbacks to Dorian Brogy and stuff. And so I. I don't think he can hide behind, like, oh, I didn't find a good plot reason for such and such a character to. To do. I, like, I think he's got something in mind for. For Usopp to do, especially because he hasn't done anything so far.

[Zach]

He had that moment.

[Sam]

He cried. He cried.

[Zach]

He cried.

[Ken]

He yelled at Gunko.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Ken]

Got blown up.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it's very moving.

[Zach]

They moved him to a bigger grave. Ken, what's the next question?

[Ken]

All right, next we got Big Mike. This is a beefy one here. Hey, Opp, I have a serious question this week. Instead of my usual Shenanigans, I think the situation with Kandel.

[Zach]

I don't believe that for a fucking second. Big Me or Big Mike? Shenanigans. No shenanigans from Big Mike. I'm terrified.

[Ken]

Let's see. I didn't pre read this. Let's see what happens here. I think the situation with Candel is more that she is Gunko Shuri's surrogate mother, rather than Goro having his way with her, or at least hopefully, there was no intercourse during the conception and she made some deal with Spaced out for one second. So he's saying that Candel's a surrogate during the conception, and she and Reuven made some deal with the world government for her to give birth to Gunko so they didn't have to pay the heavenly tribute. And the holy knights were going to take her depending on how she turned out. But Candel and Reuven ended up adopting her and named her Shuri and refused to give her up. The women we seen recently targeted by the world nobles, besides the ones targeted by the lesser hedonistic world nobles like Charlos, have mostly been strong women like Kandel, Shakuyaku, Ginny and Shanks, Mother Magnolia. They're all wise. So are they trying to create some type of master race while circumventing the negative effects of inbreeding? This isn't the first time this has happened in the series. Even though it was mostly explained in an sps, it's not as dark because a woman was doing it. Big mom was also forcing men to procreate with her to build and diversify her crew, and this might be a similar type of situation.

[Zach]

I'm glad that didn't have a punchline.

[Ken]

Yeah, seriously.

[Zach]

Marcus Mars needs moms.

[Delaney]

Marcus Mars needs moms.

[Zach]

It all comes down to that. That's the answer.

[Ken]

Write the title down over, over, under.

[Sam]

On the word inbreeding ever appearing in one piece.

[Delaney]

Jesus Christ.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's an extremely dark. The thing is,

[Delaney]

I mean, they're not.

[Ed]

I don't know.

[Delaney]

I feel like we already got like the. The Ubermensch thing with the judge and Vinsmoke.

[Sam]

Like, I don't imagine it's like calculated of a thing. Like, it's. It's. It's a. It's just like an expression of power to, like, just take who you want.

[Stephen]

Yeah, it is.

[Ken]

I don't like this, but I do like the oh, like, if this. If this was the situation, like, we're gonna have Kendel be a surrogate. We're take Shuri back when she's born and like, they fell in love with her and like, no, we're not giving her back kind of thing. Like, that's kind of of like something nice. But it's the premise. I don't like the start of it to begin with.

[Sam]

I don't remember. I'm a little fuzzy on the last few chapters. How strongly did they imply, like, something dark had happened with Kendel?

[Ken]

Well, Jess, that Kandel saw a celestial dragon on the beach. Then she was shaken and not well for several months afterwards. And then Shuri was born right after that.

[Stephen]

And then. Yeah, then it was a shotgun wedding with Reuven.

[Ken]

Yeah. And then you have Goro showing up with the two eyes, like, yep, I remember you. I was there. I saw you, Brook. I saw that. Like, he seems to have been the one that was there.

[Sam]

So it seems to be remote conception, the surrogacy.

[Stephen]

Yeah, I mean, that's what Big Mike

[Ken]

is suggesting, but it's just the issue. Like, did Candel see the celestial dragon? Like, oh, I want a piece of that. Or was it not consensual? Like. Like that. That's where it gets

[Zach]

pretty icky. Regardless.

[Stephen]

Yeah, to be. To be fair, we. We did get, you know, a couple comments from people who were like, I don't think any of that, you know, all any of these alternate, you know, explanations are likely. I think it's, you know, it's just. It's that same story again. And. And I do think that that is. That might be the most likely answer to, you know, to what Oda is. Is saying here. And. And our, you know, our attempts to rationalize or to find a different way is. Is just kind of copium, because we just feel like we just saw that story and we want it to be something else or something, you know, like a wrinkle on that. That pattern, because otherwise it feels like Deja. You know, it just feels like it's lazy or sloppy or something. Like, Oda, you just did this storyline in the last arc, but, you know, that could easily be what he's doing.

[Zach]

Yeah, I'm. I'm not. I. I still am, like, personally relatively convinced as to the theory that I posited. I'm not going through it all again.

[Sam]

Isn't there, like, a scene where, like, Kendel is implying she's like, she. She was in love with a man once or that's.

[Zach]

That's.

[Ken]

Yeah, she was like, I always want to be by his side. Like, she. She wasn't naming Reuven or anything like that. And, like, she was being very coy with, like, the pronoun game and whatnot.

[Zach]

So her whole demeanor is very suspicious.

[Sam]

That makes me think maybe the Celestial dragon was, like, somebody from her past.

[Zach]

That's what I thought as well.

[Stephen]

Right. And that's, like, we don't have enough information to say one way or another.

[Zach]

I don't think we're gonna get that information until we, like, really delve into the stuff with Gunko, which seems to be coming soon.

[Ken]

But she's still defrosting.

[Zach]

She's the Conduit here.

[Ken]

I put her in the sink. I have water right now.

[Sam]

Yeah, right, right.

[Stephen]

Yeah. It's.

[Ken]

And then she's gonna be home soon. I'm in trouble.

[Zach]

She did not suffocate. She's fine. What's next, Ken?

[Ken]

All right, next up we got Tyler. Hey, Opp. I hope you all had a wonderful and safe fourth of July for the Americans. Thank you. If not have. If not have been enjoying the World cup for everyone else.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Ken]

Also thank you. I'm excited for the Sanji power up. Gotta keep the monster. Gotta keep the monster tree. I can't wait to see what the key is for him. Germa Zeph or ladies. What do you think is king of title will be? Will he be king of hell and king of the pirates? So the king of the dot dot dot.

[Sam]

I like king of the.

[Zach]

I didn't answer this.

[Stephen]

Yes, we solved it. We figured it out.

[Zach]

I'm king of the sky. What's next?

[Ken]

Next up we have a raid you ice patch. Okay, problem one. I want to read some one piece banger chapter as always and there's no break next week. Problem 2. So far only the monster trios seem to be getting big fights this arc. At least the rest of the crew get to do some ice shenanigans. Did Frankie not install temperature sensitivity in his big ol metal hand? Problem three, Sanji has never been able to grow past his crippling self hatred and insecurity over how obviously queer and pathetic he is as a person. Looks like some battlefield psychiat. Psychiatry is the solution to the problem. Do you think Chopper can deliver? Do you think Chopper can deliver snooj some SSRI or possibly estrogen? Will Ivankov have to be called to force femme? Another called into femme. Another problem away.

[Zach]

Thank you Ken for reading this question right now.

[Sam]

Who sent that one in?

[Ken]

That was raging Razu ice patch.

[Zach]

That's reverse eye patch.

[Delaney]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Okay.

[Zach]

Sam says knowingly. Of course we do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Ken]

I just wonder if the snooch was intentional or that was a tight person.

[Zach]

What is snooze?

[Delaney]

You think Chopper tend to turned into a J from Jay and Silent Bob for two minutes.

[Stephen]

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Yep.

[Zach]

I'm sure it's something snooji boogies. Are we so out of touch?

[Delaney]

Snooch of the supreme King Boochies.

[Ken]

Oh, I'm so happy right now.

[Zach]

That's better than getting ligma Christ.

[Ken]

All right, next up. We got enough of the non you crams. I get It. All right. Ahoya. PP Banger chapter. As always. Very funny chapter. With some great gags with the crew and the ice block. And I find it really funny that in the end of this. In the end, the solution was just have Loki and Ragnar randomly land exactly where they. Where they needed to laugh my ass off.

[Delaney]

Off.

[Ken]

Proud of Sanji for finally releasing. Realizing he needs a coc. You know exactly how to pronounce this here. Color of.

[Zach]

Color of Surprise. No, he wants. I'm sorry, they want you to actually pronounce.

[Sam]

It's the man up and get his cock hard.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's what. That's what they're trying to say.

[Ken]

Gotcha.

[Delaney]

He's getting his cock hard.

[Ken]

Gotcha. Okay, Happy belated prize. Plus Zur having faith in his male wife. My question this week is. Now that Ragnar is near Usopp, is it time? Have a great week, crew.

[Stephen]

That's right. It's all coming together.

[Ken]

If Ragnar can shrink down to a normal size. Or can make himself light enough Brusov to wield him just for one use.

[Zach]

I think you're forgetting. You're forgetting someone who's in the vicinity. He's an owl who can make things bigger. He's in my backyard.

[Ken]

Who can only make things big.

[Zach]

No, he could change size.

[Ken]

Yeah, revert them back to their original

[Zach]

size, maybe the original size of.

[Stephen]

No, it goes both ways.

[Zach]

I think it goes both ways. Yeah. Come on, Happy pride.

[Ken]

He can make the books smaller than they were. I thought it was just an enlarging power.

[Zach]

I don't think they knew for certain what the power was. But it's that you could make an adamant object change size. I don't think it's.

[Ken]

I will be perfectly okay if that's the explanation. That owl's being sussy for weeks now. We have not gotten back to that.

[Zach]

Well, you know what? We'll find out about this, Ken. Next March.

[Ken]

Why, Sam, what are you gonna say?

[Sam]

I like the idea of Usopp getting Ragnar, except for the fact that, like, it's just Nami Zeus again. I think that's a weird power up to happen twice.

[Ken]

I don't want Usopp to keep Rag. Because I think.

[Stephen]

No, no, Ragnar has to stay with Loki.

[Ken]

But like, if it's a one and

[Sam]

done, there's something that makes a lot of sense because, like, Usopp did. Does have that, like, history with, like, hammers in the early days.

[Zach]

10 ton hammer this would be. I think we determined a 10,000 ton hammer.

[Stephen]

But we've seen that. We've seen the God Usopp thing happen before. Like it Usopp doesn't have to be. He could still do like a hammer related sort of bluff joke. Even if he. He doesn't realize what's happening. Because he does have that sort of buggy style, you know, power inflation.

[Ken]

He can pretend he has Ragnar right

[Zach]

to power scalers take into account power inflation. Ken, what's the next one?

[Delaney]

I don't think they take any power scaling.

[Zach]

That's a good question.

[Sam]

Well, it's called power creep. That's what inflation is.

[Ken]

Very good, Sam. Alright, Sailor Karna. Hey, Opp. How are you guys? Hopefully staying cool in this heat wave. It's super convenient that the ice started to melt after. Look, he hit it. Now the others can rescue Shuri without any issues. Maybe. Possibly. Anyway, back to Sanji, because there's too way too much happening at once.

[Zach]

That last point I was just thinking about because it's like we have like four maybe like really big plot lines happening simultaneously. And we're gonna have to cut away from three of them at any given time, which will kind of make it.

[Sam]

They're all like happening like fairly close to each other. It feels like.

[Zach]

Yes, geographically, maybe it feels close because

[Sam]

just like they're drawn close.

[Stephen]

But Loki's gonna wake up.

[Ken]

Next chapter. The fuck are you guys doing? Like looking at the ice.

[Zach]

What are these? Ants? What is this? An island for ants?

[Delaney]

A drink for ants.

[Ken]

All right, next up we got Wispy a Opp. I'm gonna need Shuri to stay frozen for a little while longer. I'm not ready to move on from all the great gags that Ice Block has provided for the crew. Love that Oda is.

[Zach]

I want a montage of all the times of all the great gags.

[Ken]

Love that Oda is still able to weave some humor into such a dramatic chapter. Really cool to get confirmation that Sanji has the potential for Conqueror's Haki. You know who else has Conqueror's Haki but has never shown it? Eustace. Kidding. With how much of this arc has escalated, do you think that we'll see him in Elbaf? Yes.

[Zach]

No. He's dead.

[Stephen]

No.

[Ken]

Yeah, but his crew got killed on the shores of Elbaf. So like I think as a gag,

[Zach]

they'll show him extremely dead. Yes, you're right. I get it. They're super dead.

[Ken]

All right, fine. Anyone else?

[Delaney]

Advanced deaditis of the body.

[Ken]

And kid, he's been dead for years. He never changed because he's Been dead.

[Zach]

Next.

[Ken]

All right, last one. This is from Sheepman, a famous smilefruit user from Howdy Opp. To answer Alex's question on how to pronounce my username, it's Sheepman. I'm not an actual sheep.

[Zach]

For context, Sheepman, I think, is still a better way to do it.

[Ken]

Well, choose to go ahead to piggyback off Whispy's comment. Eustace Kid is literally the skeleton at the bottom of the lake that drowned in that meme where someone is throwing the favorite kid up in the air. Luffy is that kid. Law is the one drowning. And luckily Beppo saved him from that. Anyways, I had the thought of what if Vivi came to Elbaf while all this is going on and her arrival causes the end of the fight between Luffy and Imu? Since she's so obvious. Since she's so obvious. Obvious an interest to Emu. Unless Emu fumbles her again like he did in the Reverie twice. Have a swell week, y'. All.

[Stephen]

That's really.

[Sam]

I'm a tangential thought that occurred to me from this is. I'm going off of the last question a little bit here. If you. If you. You know how when you eat two devil fruits, you explode?

[Ken]

Yeah. Go straight to your thigh.

[Zach]

Happens to me all the time.

[Ed]

Yeah.

[Delaney]

As one does.

[Zach]

You mean like Alex Jones did?

[Sam]

If you ate Rook's fruit as the second fruit, you come back with both fruits. Is that the hack?

[Ken]

You blow up, respawn. You blow up again. Instantly.

[Delaney]

You're caught in a. In a loop. Near a glitch loop.

[Zach]

In all seriousness, Vivi, like being literally on the horizon has been something I've thought about since the beginning of this arc. Particularly with the X in the newspaper thing. I. I think that is a great way. Especially we know that Emu is obsessed for some reason with Vivi. So I think that is a great way to ruin this fight

[Ken]

it. I've been thinking too. Because we know. In a good way.

[Zach]

Ruin it in a good way.

[Ken]

She's an Ori. She's an ordinary.

[Zach]

She comes in and she says, please stop the fighting. That's what she does. She comes in there and says that over and over again. That's her catchphrase, her classic.

[Sam]

She was the man with the burn scar this whole time.

[Stephen]

And then Zaza Phryki starts raining and the fighting stops.

[Ken]

Just because that she's in an airship right now. We still have not seen the Astral Layer. If they park right on top there and escape.

[Zach]

Elbaf I want to see the actor.

[Sam]

I feel like she. I feel like she has to rejoin the crew for, like, the final arc.

[Ken]

Yes.

[Sam]

So, like, this is a good place to do it.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Sam]

Now's about the time.

[Ken]

And this arc started, like Zack said, with the X on the Luffy in the newspaper. And all the people who didn't know about the X were the one who read the paper, which was the fact

[Zach]

that Oda purposely separated them to do that gag, which is what I think that was. But I think that it tells us, okay, that's gotta come back. And he's purposely did that at the beginning so we forget about it. Much like he did that Sanji cutaway with Gabon at the beginning of the flashback. So we would all forget about it when it came back just about now.

[Ken]

I do like that idea, though. Like, if the Luffy Emu fight just keeps escalating, escalating, escalating. Vivi shows up, and Emu's like, all right. Grabs her, teleports away. Like, that's how the fight ends. I only just happen. Yeah, that's a really interesting idea. Cause we still don't know what that's about.

[Zach]

Like, just getting distracted. She uses the thing that she uses in whiskey pee. What do you call it? The hypnotic thing.

[Sam]

The hypno dancing.

[Zach]

Yeah, the hypno dancing. But Emu's legit hypnotized by it and is taken out because of it. If only he didn't have all that misogynistic instability. He'd.

[Ken]

Imu can't talk to pretty girl.

[Sam]

He's like Drake walking into the women's bath.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Delaney]

Hello, Princess.

[Zach]

Emu goes from emo to like. Much like the emo kid, you know, in high school.

[Delaney]

Emu.

[Zach]

Emu. Ewu Emu.

[Delaney]

I notice you're alone in this chat room.

[Stephen]

They broke. Broke in.

[Zach]

You okay? There is that dispute of his head. No, yeah, he's fine. He's fine. We had one on subreddit.

[Sam]

Oh, my God, he's dying. Oh, my God. We just watched Ken die.

[Delaney]

Oh, no.

[Ken]

Don't start spreading rumors.

[Zach]

Oh, he's back. Much like he wants to kill Kenny. Oh, oh, now you're gonna bring him to high school, I'm sure. Middle school, elementary school. Middle school. There's nothing I hate more than a name joke that you could have made in middle school that comes back to haunt you.

[Ken]

I get haunted by south park in my youth and now Barbie in my adulthood. I can't escape.

[Zach]

It was Zack Attack from Saved by the Bell. Is that where I got that from?

[Ken]

That sounds right.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay. I don't like that. So. So you know, Steven, did you have Subreddit Archipelago open? I know there's just the one.

[Stephen]

I had it open, but there was nothing there.

[Zach]

Oh, I found. I saw one from six minutes ago. That's why. Oh wow. That is under the wire from gecko Moria fan 151 because there was a hunt. There were 150 other gecko Moria fans.

[Delaney]

Dozens.

[Stephen]

It says if there are only 150 Gecko Moria fans, I am dead.

[Zach]

And then he would use your body. Hesso Opp. What an interesting chapter. I have a question completely unrelated to it. Remember when Emu spoke to King Cobra, he was all like, was he cutesy when he was talking to King Cobra though? Do you guys think that the voice used was meant to be Imu Moo's real voice or do you think Tori was spinning their wheels because they had no idea. Also, and this is really the question to answer here. Would you all rather join the Big Mom Pirates or the Animal Kingdom Pirates if you had to?

[Ken]

Oh, Big Mom Pirates, hands down.

[Zach]

Yeah, the food.

[Delaney]

Yeah, the food. Big Mom Pirates.

[Ken]

The Katakuri. Come on.

[Zach]

Plus, I don't want to be forced to have like an animal coming out of my ass.

[Stephen]

Yeah, but you do get to wear bondage gear.

[Ken]

Doesn't like Big mom, like was like, like providing like universal protection. As long as you gave up like just a little bit of soul.

[Zach]

Yeah. I don't want to be Forretrix. I want to be Fortrix. I want to be Hamlet. No disrespect to them except for massive disrespect.

[Sam]

Hamlet, you're trapped for the rest of your life. Enabling your crack addicted mom. But otherwise, you know, you get food.

[Zach]

Yeah, but what's, what's different from that?

[Ken]

And you know she throws bomb ass.

[Sam]

Living in America.

[Zach]

Living in America. That's where I was going with that.

[Stephen]

That was a, Wasn't that like a Thomas Edison or a Benjamin Franklin quote? Like if you give up 10% of your soul for security, you deserve neither or whatever.

[Zach]

Yeah, I, I, I thought you were going to say isn't that famous Benjamin Franklin quote quote. Would you rather be with your crack addled. Whatever Sam just said, that'll do it.

[Delaney]

Enabling your crack addicted mom.

[Sam]

Crack addicted mom for Emu's voice. I think they're just like literally not allowed to settle on the voice for.

[Zach]

Did they do like the double voice kind of thing? I'm trying to remember.

[Stephen]

Yeah.

[Sam]

There's, like, a few voices on there. I think that they'll settle on one of those voices being, like, the actual real voice.

[Delaney]

Yes.

[Ken]

I still think Odo was waffling on what he was gonna do with Emu for a while. I'm. I still think that design that people found on his work desk, it looked like a female emu. And, like, the design is kind of close to what we got, but the other, the one we did is much more masculine. I think he was going back and forth on a while, what he wanted to do.

[Zach]

I still don't think this is the real emu. Will the real emu please stand up? Sorry,

[Delaney]

I'm emu and so's my wife.

[Zach]

Okay. I think that'll do it for the One Piece podcast. Let's do it for the piece.

[Ken]

Zach is so done.

[Delaney]

He just. He killed the show. We're done.

[Zach]

We're done.

[Delaney]

This far.

[Zach]

It's a mercy killing. Let's round off the show.

[Ed]

No.

[Ken]

Okay, okay.

[Delaney]

He didn't say it's not dying.

[Zach]

This has been episode 925 of the One Piece Podcast. Thank you all for coming on the show. Delaney, where could people find you and your work?

[Delaney]

Infinite Snow Pro on Blue sky, Instagram and YouTube. I would recommend subscribing to my channel now because within, ideally the next couple weeks, my 100 minute behemoth of a video essay is coming out. And as you can tell, I have been working very long hours to get it done. But I'm excited to get it out there. It's gonna be great. And also go check out Girl Perverts podcast, which I can say now, because we've more or less got it booked that we're gonna be doing this month's episode on Whole Cake island with our friend Melontea. So tune in for that. We're on Instagram. You can find us wherever you get your podcasts. And you also get full movie commentaries or episode commentaries in this case, if you. My Patreon, which is also Infinite Snow Pro. So there you go. Ken looked very excited that Ken looked delighted.

[Ken]

Very.

[Zach]

Steven, where could people find you?

[Stephen]

I'm on Bluesky, StephenPaul, BSky Social, and we should be getting a chapter next week, but I think we're going to look at maybe covering volume 115 the week after, if that. If that all, you know, lines up the way that we. We think it will. Yeah, yeah, but that's that. That one just came out this week, the last couple days, so it should be nice and fresh when we get to cover it, which is. Is fun. And just because we were talking about it in the. In the piece together. Go ahead and and look for volume 16 of Yotzaba if you have not yet since that. That came out a month or two ago. So very, very good stuff. Very highly recommended, Sam.

[Sam]

They can find me on Blue Sky. I am about to finish up Danganronpa 2, so if there's anything really sensational going on there, I might have some reactions to it. We'll see. And I'm sure we'll finish up. We'll catch up with the anime recaps one of these days. I believe in us.

[Zach]

It's not us. No, it's fine.

[Ken]

Yeah. Who's the us here?

[Sam]

Well, literally the reason we haven't been able to do it is because I have like no recording partners for like

[Zach]

the last two months. That's true. To be fair, I feel you. Steve has been really busy, Ken. Everyone's been really busy. Yeah, we've all been busy. I get it, Sam. But thank you for coming on. How dare you. Ken. Ken. Where could people find you?

[Ken]

You can find me anywhere online under kindking01. Also check out the one piece art collab on blueskyopcollab.bsky.com

[Zach]

and and you can find me zackloken.com on blue sky. I just like a couple hours before recording watched the first two episodes of Ja Dugar, a witch in Mongolia that I think literally came out today. Oh my God. Great. Definitely worth a watch. It is dark as I mentioned, but it is very good series. And the manga is out from I think like an independent. I forget what publisher is doing that. Anyway, you can check out the One Piece podcast onepiecepodcast.com patreon.com One Piece podcast please subscribe to us there. You can find us anywhere you get your podcasts including YouTube.com One Piece podcast, Apple podcasts or Spotify. I will say I think we've got a really good. We got very good response from our tier Ranker episode for the COVID story and actually how is that tournament going?

[Ken]

I was going to bring that up. Do you want me to do it now or.

[Zach]

This is the time I was the segue I gave you and then you just ruined it.

[Ken]

Okay. Yeah, that's fine.

[Zach]

No, I'm kidding. You're fine.

[Ken]

This is the final round this week. So if you're listening to this podcast, the final vote is is currently up the final round of which cover story is better for first and second place we have Eneru's great space mission against Gang Beij's oh My family. So that's me for first and second place. One of those is gonna be the winner.

[Zach]

By the way. Beige for us had ranked a tier quote unquote versus enterer, which ranked S tier. So I, I mean I liked. I think I would put beige probably in my S tiers. So I get it.

[Ken]

I'm still in the camp of like if Eniru's cover story pays off, it's one of the best ones. But we don't know that yet. So as of right now, I would probably lean towards Capone myself.

[Zach]

Putting your thumb on the scale, I see that.

[Ken]

Or people who just thought Ken's wrong go against me can go either way. But for third and fourth place we have the saga of the self proclaimed Straw Hat Flu complete and Buggy's crew after the battle. So that'll be for third and fourth place.

[Zach]

Awesome. Yeah, I think that does it. I can't forget to say fuck ice, especially this week that it's melted. Which again, it's hot enough. That'll do it for the podcast next week. We got another chapter week after that, as Steven mentioned. Hopefully we'll be doing the SBS for volume one 115, which is 20 yen more expensive. So please save those yen. We'll see you next time everyone. My name is Zach. Goodbye.