High achievers know the gap well: the space between where you are and where you want to be. It can drive growth, but it can also become a source of fear, avoidance, and self-judgment.

In this episode, Jay talks with five-time entrepreneur and executive coach Hannah Soto about the three ways business owners and high achievers often relate to the gap. They chase it, believing fulfillment lives on the other side. They hide from it by staying busy, over-planning, or avoiding the next scary step. Or they use it as proof they aren’t enough.

Hannah shares how her own experience walking the Camino de Santiago changed her relationship with suffering, resilience, and becoming. Together, she and Jay explore how to stop treating the gap like a problem to fix and start seeing it as evidence of a compelling vision.

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We talk about:

[00:00] What is The Gap?

[04:46] Stop Chasing Fulfillment Like a Finish Line

[15:09] Overcoming Avoidance

[23:29] Can Coaches Help?

[27:13] Self-Doubt And Judgement

[38:27] The ONE Thing Weekly Challenge

Links & Tools from This Episode:

• The ONE Thing Operating System

• Hannah Soto’s Website

• Hannah Soto’s Instagram

• Free Resources

Produced by NOVA