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Annie Rose Strasser
Would you rather have your hairline 1 inch from your eyebrow or your gum start a centimeter from the bottom of your teeth? My name is Annie Rose Strasser and I'm the executive producer of Opinion Audio, which means that I listen basically all day to other people's conversations. And I like to think about starting good conversations in my personal life too. So we are headed into holiday party season when you have to find something new to talk about with the person you talk to at work every day.
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How are you good?
Annie Rose Strasser
Or you have to see family who you haven't seen in a long time and you're like, oh God again. Or the worst when you have people who don't know each other, who you are, the connecting point between and you have to figure out a way to make all of them talk to each other. All difficult situations that can be solved with a good conversation starter. Conversation starters definitely get a bad rap. I think it's because it sounds like a corny sort of self helpy terminology, but in fact, if you break it apart, what we're talking about is like starting a conversation which is such a meaningful and important thing to do. And I think really good conversation starters give you a lot of connection and understanding of another person and empathy. They're not like sort of board gamey in the way that I think Conversation Starter sounds. It makes everyone comfortable to be really honest and actually pretty vulnerable. Which I think is like what we all should be looking for in our conversation. So I think the thing about a good conversation starter is that it's approachable territory. Like you don't need to come with any preconceived knowledge to be able to answer the question. Virtually anyone can answer it. It's like an equal playing field for everyone. The ones that are, I think the most successful is when they just feel fun, but it also like lets you probe. I think the onus is on the person starting the conversation to shepherd the Conversation to a more meaningful place from that really approachable, wide territory. A couple of years ago, I had to have what I would say was a very awkward dinner between relatives who were meeting for the first time. And I knew that it was going to be really uncomfortable. And so ahead of the dinner, I googled safe conversation starters, and I found this list from the Greenwich Free Press. 15 Safe Conversation Starters for Thanksgiving dinner tables. It's just like a random list I found on the Internet, but they're so good. Would you ever go on reality television if you had a family motto? What would it be? What was the worst job you ever had? What's one subject that you wish was taught in schools? I memorized all 15. I would say I deployed seven or eight over the course of the night. I told no one. We'd be in the middle of a conversation, something awkward would happen, There would be a lull, and then I would say, so who taught you guys how to ride a bike? And the weirdest thing was absolutely nobody registered it, or I think this maybe was what it was. Everyone was dying for someone to just start some neutral conversation. And so I did, and everyone was grateful that it happened and immediately kind of latched onto it. And I remember what was the worst job you ever had? Actually was, like, a really interesting one, because everyone told stories about their childhoods and their first jobs, and it turned into a long conversation about the meaning of work. And it didn't lead to disagreement, but it led to meaningful conversation out of, like, a pretty anodyne conversation starter. When you're talking to people at a party, I feel like there's a few places conversations end up all the time. People like to talk about what they do for work, people they know in common, what television shows you're watching. Conversation that's, like, slightly impenetrable if you don't share the same turf as the people who are having the conversation. And I think that can be very alienating. It doesn't bring people in, and it's also just predictable. It's boring. I've always been intimidated by impenetrable conversation. I've always been a person who's like, oh, this conversation is above me, or I'm outside of it, or I don't have anything to contribute, and then I kind of step away from the conversation. And I've always liked to find common ground. So whether you feel bored or awkward or you truly have just run out of things to say to people this holiday season, I highly encourage you to think about using a conversation starter. And to help you out, here are a couple of my favorites. One, do you believe in aliens? Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Annie Rose Strasser
I just.
Guest Speaker
If the universe is so huge, it feels cocky to believe that we're the only ones, you know?
Annie Rose Strasser
Two, if you could have any liquid coming out of your two pointer fingers, which liquids would they be? And why?
Guest Speaker
The coffee, I think the other is salt.
Annie Rose Strasser
High pressure water. All things you could do with high pressure water. Dr. Pepper and chocolate milk. I think that's a really good one. By asking it, you start to understand people's priorities and their ways of thinking.
Guest Speaker
I think one would be like honey, and then the other one would be like acid.
Podcast Host
You know what I mean?
Guest Speaker
Okay, so you have like the forces.
Annie Rose Strasser
Of good and evil. Three, would you rather go to the moon or the bottom of the ocean?
Guest Speaker
There's way too many creepy things happening at the bottom of the ocean. Don't know enough about it. Too many scaries. Not as you said.
Annie Rose Strasser
I find that one to be very revealing when I've gotten into big arguments. Why is it important to start these conversations? Well, first of all, it's the holidays. And part of the reason for having a holiday party is to get to know and talk to people you don't otherwise. And it's one of the only times of year we really do that. But also, trying to make connections with people in a totally different way challenges your thinking. It makes you as a person a little more conscious of how you answer your questions, and it lets you get to know other people. And I think that's why we're alive. So now you have some good conversation starters. You know why they're worth deploying. And I'd say the next thing to do to memorize your top five and go out and use them this holiday season. Be brave. Meet someone new. Have a real conversation.
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Podcast Summary: The Opinions – "The Secret to Enjoying Awkward Holiday Parties"
Episode Information
In this episode of The Opinions, Annie Rose Strasser, Executive Producer of Opinion Audio at The New York Times, delves into the perennial challenge of navigating awkward holiday parties. As the holiday season approaches, many find themselves grappling with the discomfort of engaging in small talk with colleagues, reconnecting with distant family members, or bridging conversations between unfamiliar guests.
Annie begins by highlighting common scenarios that make holiday gatherings awkward:
Quote:
"We are headed into holiday party season when you have to find something new to talk about with the person you talk to at work every day."
— Annie Rose Strasser [00:42]
Annie emphasizes the importance of thoughtful conversation starters in overcoming social discomfort. She addresses the misconception that conversation starters are superficial, arguing that they can foster genuine connections and empathy when used effectively.
Key Points:
Quote:
"A good conversation starter is approachable territory. Like you don't need to come with any preconceived knowledge to be able to answer the question."
— Annie Rose Strasser [03:00]
Annie shares a personal anecdote about managing an awkward family dinner where relatives were meeting for the first time. Anticipating discomfort, she prepared by memorizing a list of conversation starters sourced from the Greenwich Free Press. Throughout the evening, she seamlessly introduced questions that shifted the conversation to more engaging and personal topics.
Notable Quotes:
This strategy not only alleviated the initial awkwardness but also led to meaningful discussions about the nature of work and personal experiences, demonstrating the effectiveness of well-chosen conversation starters.
To equip listeners with practical tools, Annie shares her favorite conversation starters designed to spark engaging and inclusive conversations:
"Do you believe in aliens?" [05:43]
"If you could have any liquid coming out of your two pointer fingers, which liquids would they be? And why?" [05:58]
"Would you rather go to the moon or the bottom of the ocean?" [06:22]
Example Interaction:
This exchange illustrates how playful yet insightful questions can lead to revealing and enjoyable conversations.
Annie underscores that the essence of holiday gatherings lies in building connections and understanding others. By utilizing effective conversation starters, individuals can transform mundane interactions into opportunities for personal growth and empathy.
Quote:
"Trying to make connections with people in a totally different way challenges your thinking. It makes you as a person a little more conscious of how you answer your questions, and it lets you get to know other people. And I think that's why we're alive."
— Annie Rose Strasser [06:36]
In wrapping up, Annie encourages listeners to embrace the use of conversation starters during the holiday season. By preparing a few thoughtful questions, individuals can navigate social gatherings with confidence, foster meaningful interactions, and enhance their overall holiday experience.
Final Advice:
"Now you have some good conversation starters. You know why they're worth deploying. And I'd say the next thing to do is memorize your top five and go out and use them this holiday season. Be brave. Meet someone new. Have a real conversation."
— Annie Rose Strasser [07:20]
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