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The Optimal Life
Hosted by Nate Haber · EN
Inspirational conversations with extraordinary people.
An audio experience produced and hosted by personal development expert, Nate Haber.
Including high profile guests like RFK Jr., JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, Mary Fitzgerald Bonnet, Bernie Kosar, Daniel Cormier, Stipe Miocic, Tito Ortiz, Devin McCourty, Roy Dean, Stuart Cooper, Jordan Harbinger, Justin McClure, Michael Chernow, Natalie Brunell, Coach JV, Ryan Rottman, Adam Sosnick, and more.
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518. Adetayo Ibijemilusi :: The Secrets to Making $500K/Year
6d ago00:45:39Tap to summarizeTayo Lusi is a former cloud engineer who founded The 1% University, a program helping individuals break into the tech industry as AWS Cloud Engineers. Check out Tayo's YouTube @TechWithTayo
Transcribe →517. Dr. Joy Kong :: The Life-Saving Miracles of Stem Cell Therapy
2w ago00:38:56Tap to summarizeDr. Joy Kong is a stem cell therapy specialist and anti-aging expert who founded Chara Health, a regenerative medicine and advanced aesthetics clinic helping people extend their health-span and lifespan. Learn more at https://chara-health.com Check out Joy's YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@joykongmd EPISODE SUMMARY BELOW: I. Joy's Background and Peptide Discussion Nate and Joy discussed Joy's background, including her 27 years in Los Angeles since attending UCLA in 1999, and her earlier time in China, San Francisco, and Minnesota. They briefly touched on President Trump's visit to China and discussed local issues in Los Angeles, including homelessness. The conversation then shifted to peptides and stem cell therapy. II. Peptide Therapy and Longevity Discussion Nate and Joy discussed various peptides, focusing on Epitalon and its benefits for telomere protection and longevity. Joy explained that Epitalon can help extend telomeres, protecting DNA and potentially reducing age-related diseases. They also touched on MOTS-C's potential role in cancer prevention and its use in conjunction with stem cell therapy. Joy emphasized the importance of combining peptides with stem cell therapy for optimal results, highlighting the effectiveness of this approach in her clinic. III. Umbilical Cord Stem Cell Therapy Joy explained Chara Health's focus on regenerative therapy using stem cells, particularly emphasizing the benefits of using younger umbilical cord-derived stem cells over older fat or bone marrow derived stem cells. Joy cited research showing that umbilical cord stem cells are more effective and have lower cancer risk compared to fat-derived stem cells, as demonstrated in studies involving glioblastoma tumors. IV. Stem Cell Treatment Overview Joy explained how stem cells are sourced from umbilical cords and placentas, which are typically discarded but can now be harvested through procurement companies. She described treating patients with various conditions including musculoskeletal issues, chronic diseases, and neurological disorders through different delivery methods such as IV, direct injection, and intranasal routes. Joy shared a remarkable case of a patient with liver cirrhosis who was near death but experienced significant improvement after receiving stem cell treatment, with his liver function returning to normal. V. Stem Cell Treatment Protocols Joy explained that stem cells used in treatments are the same type regardless of the condition being treated, though different cell combinations are used depending on the clinic and specific product. She described her unique combination of cells from umbilical cord blood, cord tissue, and amniotic membrane, which includes mesenchymal stem cells, immune cells, and endothelial progenitor cells. Joy also discussed her use of peptides like BPC-157 and TB-500 in her treatment protocol, with additional peptides prescribed based on specific patient needs such as autoimmune issues or infections. VI. Stem Cell Therapy Discussion Nate and Joy discussed stem cell therapy, including its legal status in the United States and its effectiveness in treating conditions like dementia and Parkinson's disease. Joy explained that stem cell therapy is legal if cells are not grown or altered outside the body, and she shared specific cases where patients showed improvements in memory and personality after treatment. They also talked about Joy's memoir, social media presence, and her experience as an egg donor. The conversation concluded with a brief discussion about business and international relations. VII. Quick Recap Nate interviewed Dr. Joy Kong, a stem cell therapist and peptide specialist based in Los Angeles, about her work at Chara Health and her approach to regenerative medicine. Dr. Kong discussed her use of umbilical cord-derived stem cells, explaining that they are superior to fat-derived stem cells due to their younger age and better healing potential. She shared remarkable patient success stories, including a case of a liver cirrhosis patient who was near death and showed significant improvement after stem cell treatment. The conversation covered Dr. Kong's peptide therapy protocols, including her use of Epitalon for telomere protection, BPC-157 and TB-500 for musculoskeletal issues, and various other peptides for specific conditions. They also discussed Dr. Kong's social media presence and her memoir about overcoming challenges in her early life. The interview concluded with Dr. Kong recommending Tesamorelin and GLP-1 peptides as underrated options in her practice.
Transcribe →BJJ Legend Melqui Galvao ARRESTED
3w ago00:23:41Tap to summarizeNate conducted a solo episode discussing severe allegations of sexual misconduct against Melqui Galvao, a prominent Brazilian Jiu Jitsu instructor and father of top competitor Mika Galvao. The investigation involves multiple allegations against minors, including charges of statutory rape and unauthorized access to electronic devices. Nate read an alleged audio message from Galvao to the victim's father, Luiz, where Galvao apologized for his behavior and attempted to bribe the family to remain silent, offering to promote the victim to black belt and provide opportunities in the United States. The International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Foundation and CBJJ have permanently banned Galvao, and several prominent athletes including his son and ADCC champion Diogo Reyes have left his team. Nate expressed condemnation at the allegations and emphasized that while this incident is disturbing, it should not detract from the beauty of the Jiu Jitsu sport itself.
Transcribe →Recapping My IBJJF Competition Experience
3w ago00:22:00Tap to summarizeNate shared his experience competing in his first IBJJF tournament in Columbus, Ohio, where he placed third in the Nogi competition. He described his two matches against seasoned competitors Aaron Jeter and Sam Buhrman, explaining how he lost the first match 3-0 and was submitted in the second match via armbar. Despite the losses, Nate emphasized the valuable learning experience and noted improvements in his cardio compared to previous competitions. He expressed respect for all competitors and highlighted the high skill level required even at the blue belt level, concluding that the tournament helped him grow as a practitioner. You might also like the below episode: Recapping the Cleveland Grappling Industries Jiu Jitsu Tournament
Transcribe →516. Annie Yatch :: Rewire Your Subconscious to Maximize Your Potential
3w ago00:30:21Tap to summarizeAnnie Yatch is a reinvention strategist and leadership advisor helping high performers overcome mental blocks to achieve maximum potential. Learn more at https://reinventionxo.com EPISODE SUMMARY BELOW: I. Family Life and Backgrounds Discussion Nate and Annie had an informal conversation about family life and personal backgrounds. Nate shared that he has four daughters and is expecting a fifth child, which will be his first son. Annie discussed her relationship with her two sisters, who live in Connecticut and Detroit respectively, and mentioned that she currently lives in Park City, Utah. The conversation touched on family dynamics and geographic preferences, with both participants sharing personal experiences about having large families and the challenges of living in different regions from their family members. II. Marriage and Divorce Perspectives Nate and Annie discussed their experiences with marriage and divorce. Annie shared her perspective as an entrepreneur who has worked with thousands of entrepreneurs over 15 years, noting that despite appearing successful on paper, many quietly question if their current life is fulfilling. She described how divorce can be a defining moment that forces people to reflect on who they want to be and where they want to go, using the eagle myth as an analogy for transformation and renewal. III. Entrepreneurial Journey and Burnout Insights Annie shared her entrepreneurial journey, starting with her background in counterterrorism and how she transitioned to entrepreneurship after observing the impact of personal struggles on performance. She described experiencing burnout while running three businesses and managing two young children, leading to a realization about the need to address underlying mental patterns driving her exhaustion. Annie explained how over-functioning at home can negatively impact performance in both personal and professional settings, noting that instability in personal life often limits business growth despite not being immediately visible in the workplace. IV. Marriage and Recovery Journey Annie discussed her challenging marriage, explaining how she and her ex-husband both engaged in self-sacrifice without using the personal development tools they taught to companies. She revealed that her ex-husband had high-functioning autism and substance abuse issues, which affected their emotional connection. Annie shared that she initially fell in love with a different version of her ex-husband before learning about his substance use, and described her 15-year journey trying to help him recover, including finding a company that helps rebuild brain chemistry. V. Transforming Pain and Success Patterns Annie shared her personal experience with her ex-husband's struggle with chronic pain and PTSD, which led him to use alcohol and pain medication, and how BiomeTech supplements helped transform his life. She discussed her work helping high-achieving entrepreneurs and business leaders identify and address subconscious patterns that limit their success, often rooted in childhood experiences. Annie explained that while negative fuel can drive success to a certain level, breaking these patterns allows individuals to achieve greater fulfillment and sustainability in both personal and professional life. VI. Quick Recap This podcast interview focused on Annie's work in self-improvement and leadership coaching, particularly helping high-achieving entrepreneurs overcome subconscious patterns that limit their success. Annie shared her personal journey through divorce and how she discovered that unresolved personal issues, including her ex-husband's substance abuse and Asperger's syndrome, were impacting her business performance and overall well-being. She explained how she helps clients identify and address subconscious patterns that prevent them from reaching their full potential, using examples like helping a client overcome a $2 million revenue ceiling by addressing a childhood trauma pattern. The conversation also touched on the differences between millionaires and billionaires in terms of mindset and personal costs of success, with Annie emphasizing that true success should be measured by an optimized daily experience rather than just financial achievement.
Transcribe →515. Matt Grace :: "I Shouldn't be Alive"
4w ago00:37:38Tap to summarizeMatt Grace is a former meth addict turned sobriety mentor who has been clean for over 20 years. He credits his sobriety to God and service, and is the author of, "God Doesn't Relapse: Sex, Drugs, and the Life that Almost Killed Me." Learn more at https://mattgrace.com
Transcribe →514. Michael Aaron Milligan :: Playing the Villain in TV and Film
Apr 2000:44:14Tap to summarizeMichael Aaron Milligan is an actor best known for his roles in Hunting Wives, F1, and Outer Banks. His latest role is one of a hitman known as "Chameleon" in the upcoming film, "Blood Behind Us," which premieres at the Dallas International Film Festival on April 26, 2026. EPISODE SUMMARY BELOW: Nate interviewed Michael Aaron Milligan about his acting career, focusing on his roles in "Hunting Wives," "F1" with Brad Pitt, and his upcoming film "Blood Behind Us" premiering at the Dallas International Film Festival on April 26th. Michael discussed his experience playing a character with multiple personalities in "Blood Behind Us," working with legendary actor Michael Madsen, and his career journey from stand-up comedy in LA to becoming a successful actor based in Atlanta. They also talked about Michael's future producing endeavors and his aspirations to lead a sci-fi or supernatural series in the next 5-10 years, with Nate suggesting connections to Taylor Sheridan's projects.
Transcribe →513. Karen Horwitz :: Our Education System Abuses its Teachers!
Apr 1300:58:04Tap to summarizeKaren Horwitz is a former elementary school teacher and the author of, "A Graver Danger." Learn more at https://endteacherabuse.org EPISODE SUMMARY BELOW: Education Reform and Whistleblowing Karen and Nate discussed their shared mission of helping people find ownership and purpose. Karen explained her concept of "white chalk crime," which she trademarked in 2002 to describe corruption in the education system, where problem teachers are fired while schools continue receiving government funding. The conversation began to touch on Karen's experience as a whistleblower and her work in education reform. Educational Corruption Experience Sharing Karen shared her experience as a fourth-grade teacher in the northern suburbs of Chicago where she discovered corruption in the mid-1990s. She described how a young principal targeted older teachers and violated laws regarding age discrimination, leading Karen to consult a lawyer about filing an age discrimination case. When the superintendent threatened to make her life miserable if she created trouble, Karen decided to document the issues and speak out, eventually choosing to focus on reporting educational corruption rather than teaching. Education System Corruption Issues Karen discussed her experiences with corruption in the education system, particularly regarding age discrimination and the protection of problematic teachers. She provided an example of a teacher who was placed on unpaid leave after filing an assault charge against a principal, while another teacher who showed naked pictures to students was merely moved to another school. Karen explained that she had threatened to sue the district due to age discrimination practices, and mentioned her discovery of election fraud in her district where officials were re-elected despite not addressing the issues. Principal's Inappropriate Decision Making Karen discussed her experiences with a young principal who made inappropriate decisions, including moving her from 4th grade to 5th grade to teach science, which Karen believed was an attempt to make her quit. Karen explained that the principal had also reassigned an older librarian to a floating substitute position and had treated several teachers poorly. Nate questioned Karen's interpretation of the principal's motives, particularly regarding the science teaching assignment, suggesting that the principal's actions might not have been discriminatory. Teacher Abuse in School Systems Karen discussed her experiences with teacher abuse and described how school districts can be "mafia-like" in their operations. She shared specific examples, including a case of a Florida teacher who was criminally indicted after preventing a potential school shooting, and the Roslyn School District scandal in New York involving financial misconduct by administrators. Karen explained that in her view, school systems often prefer problematic teachers, including potentially pedophile teachers, over those who would challenge authority or report misconduct, as the latter tend to build positive relationships with parents which districts seek to avoid. Public School System Corruption Issues Karen discussed her observations of systemic issues in public school systems across the United States, claiming that over 50% of schools exhibit problematic behavior similar to a "mafia" structure. She shared the specific case of Ed Coben, a teacher who was allegedly framed for a mass shooting at a Miami-Dade public school and later received a small settlement after retiring. Karen explained that many competent teachers are silenced or pushed out of the system, with the remaining teachers either complicit in inappropriate practices or being used as pawns in administrative conflicts. She argued that these issues have created division between homeschooling parents and those still involved in traditional schools, while the actual problem lies with corrupt administrators who prioritize control over education quality. Modern Education Challenges Discussion Karen and Nate discussed the challenges in modern education, particularly regarding how controversial issues like gender identity and furries are used to distract from more serious problems. Karen explained how these distractions prevent teachers from addressing real issues with troubled students, potentially contributing to school shootings. She emphasized the need for more teachers like herself who can connect with and help troubled students, contrasting with younger teachers who focus more on popular culture. The conversation also touched on the complexity of trans issues and how effective democratic schools with supportive teachers could address these challenges. Education Reform and Systemic Issues Karen discussed her experiences and observations in education, asserting that administrators often pressure teachers to be less caring, creating a hostile environment that can lead to the removal of dedicated educators. She attributed much of the problem to systemic issues, including corruption and mismanagement of funds, rather than malicious intent by all administrators. Karen emphasized the need for reform in education to restore democracy and protect students' well-being, highlighting her ongoing efforts through her websites and book, "A Graver Danger." Nate expressed concerns about the complexity and messaging of Karen's arguments, encouraging her to clarify her key grievances for broader impact. Conclusion Nate interviewed Karen Horwitz, author of "A Graver Danger: White Chalk Crime - The Stunning First Ever Explanation for School Shootings and How We End Them," about her 30-year investigation into corruption in public school systems. Karen described her experience as a whistleblower who was fired from her teaching position in 1999 after discovering age discrimination and other wrongdoing by administrators in her district. She claimed that more than 50% of school systems across America operate like "mafia operations" prioritizing money and control over student welfare, often protecting problematic teachers while targeting competent ones who question authority. Karen's research includes numerous examples of financial misconduct, administrative abuse, and systemic issues that she believes are destroying democracy and contributing to broader societal problems. She maintains websites documenting these issues and hopes her book will reach the next U.S. President to help reform the education system.
Transcribe →512. John Goldman :: Going All-In on Boston Marathon Qualifier
Apr 900:36:46Tap to summarizeJohn Goldman is the founder of Rebel Health Alliance, a concierge medical team built around your optimization and longevity needs. Learn more at https://rebelhealthalliance.io EPISODE SUMMARY BELOW: 1. The "All In" Philosophy and Family Motivation Commitment as a Prerequisite for Success: Both Nate and John agree that achieving extraordinary goals requires an "all-in" mentality, involving sacrifices that may seem "crazy" to others. John believes total dedication is necessary to build something from nothing. Family is a 100% motivating factor: John's primary motivation is to demonstrate to his wife and children that one can achieve anything with full commitment. He believes actions are more impactful than words, as children observe their parents' behavior. The process of dedication itself is the real lesson he wants to set. Parents should lead by example to instill a family culture of health and fitness: John believes he needed to be the leader in setting the tone for an athletic lifestyle. He taught his children various lifts and guided them into athletics, resulting in his daughter becoming a D1 rower, his son a college baseball pitcher, and his youngest a competitive volleyball player. 2. Personal Stories and Shifting Perspectives Anecdote about LeBron James: Nate shares a personal story of his brother playing against LeBron James in high school. LeBron, already famous, dunked on his brother, leaving him devastated at the time. A negative experience can become a treasured memory over time: The "posterizing" incident with LeBron is now a glorious family memory, commemorated with a signed picture. This illustrates the observation that "the older you get, the smarter your parents get," as their parents had predicted this shift in perspective. 3. Marathon Training: Past Failures and New Strategy Using a generic AI training app for a marathon can be ineffective: John trained for his first marathon using a running app, which led to a poor race experience where he "conked out" at mile 20. Overemphasis on speed work without a sufficient aerobic base is a flawed strategy: The app prescribed too much speed work without building a strong aerobic base (Zone 1/Zone 2), which is crucial for endurance and burning fat for fuel. Low heart rate (Zone 2) training significantly improves running efficiency: Working with a coach, John has spent four months training almost exclusively in Zone 2. This has improved his "easy pace" from 12:30/mile to 9:30/mile while maintaining the same low heart rate (capped at 130-135 bpm). The training goal is to build a large aerobic base before adding speed work: The strategy is to continue base-building until July before incorporating sharpening workouts like intervals and tempo runs, aiming for a consistent race pace. 4. Comprehensive Training Regimen Weekly Running Schedule with Cross-Training: The weekly schedule includes 6 days of running (easy runs, extended runs with intervals, speed work, and a progressive long run) and active recovery (10,000-meter row on the off day). John strongly prefers running outdoors, even in extreme weather, instead of using a treadmill. Specific Strength Training for Runners: The regimen includes two days of strength training focusing on unilateral movements (e.g., single-leg RDLs), core work, and mobility to build functional strength and prevent injury. Meticulous Diet and Nutrition Strategy: Following a plan from a performance dietitian, John cycles his calories and macronutrients based on training intensity (2200-2900 calories). He tracks every gram of food to systematically reach his target race weight while ensuring he is properly fueled. 5. Physical and Mental Transformation Endurance training has led to significant physiological changes: Through Zone 2 training, John's resting heart rate has dropped from the 70s to the low 40s, his HRV has improved from ~20 to ~80, and he has lost 35 pounds. Shifting from a power/strength focus to endurance is mentally challenging: Having been a 245 lb powerlifter, John finds it "disheartening" to see his lifting numbers decrease as he actively tries to lose another 25 pounds. This involves reducing protein intake and his TRT dose, which "cuts against everything" he has done before. Mental preparation is paramount for endurance: Referencing the book "How Bad Do You Want It?", John emphasizes that the brain often quits before the body. He uses mental dissociation techniques, like the "elephant and the rider" analogy, to observe pain without letting it overwhelm him. He believes ultimate success is determined by meticulous preparation, making race day a matter of "stone cold execution." 6. The Goal: Boston Marathon Event and Qualifying Time: John is running the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon on November 7th. To qualify for the 2028 Boston Marathon, he is targeting a time of 3 hours and 15 minutes, which is faster than the 3:20:00 required for his age group (Men 50-54) to ensure a spot. Uncertainty about future fitness identity: After the marathon, John is unsure if he will continue the "skinny runner" lifestyle or return to powerlifting, though he suspects he will want to perform well at Boston. 7. Rebel Health's High-Performance Service Integrated Team Approach for Optimization: John's company, Rebel Health, provides clients with an integrated team (doctor, strength coach, dietitian, genetic counselor) to create a unified plan for moving from "90 percent to 99 percent" in their health and performance. Conclusion The conversation details John's "all in" journey to qualify for the Boston Marathon, a goal driven by a desire to set an example of dedication for his children. Transitioning from a powerlifter to an endurance athlete, he has adopted a highly structured regimen. Key takeaways are that a family culture of fitness has a lasting impact, and for marathon training, a methodical approach focused on building a strong aerobic base through low-heart-rate (Zone 2) training is superior to generic, speed-focused apps. Supported by an expert team from his company, Rebel Health, John's approach integrates a demanding physical schedule, a meticulous diet, and specific mental preparation techniques. This journey has led to dramatic improvements in his running efficiency and health metrics but also involves the difficult mental and physical shift of reshaping his body for endurance over power.
Transcribe →511. Dr. Izzy Justice :: Achieve Peak Performance in Sports
Apr 500:36:16Tap to summarizeDr. Izzy Justice is a sports neuroscientist, golf enthusiast, and 5-time ironman finisher whose latest book, "Life Explained: Chasing 10Hz," is a roadmap for those looking to optimize performance, focus and clarity. Learn more at https://drizzyjustice.com EPISODE SUMMARY BELOW: I. The Untapped Frontier of Performance: Understanding the Brain The conversation begins by highlighting a fundamental paradox: while the human brain is the "quarterback" of both the human experience and athletic performance, most people know very little about it. Dr. Justice asserts that if a person can describe their shoes in more detail than their brain, they are already underperforming in life. He outlines several key reasons for this knowledge gap. Historically, studying the living brain was prohibitively dangerous, as attempts to operate on it often resulted in paralysis or death. Furthermore, the brain is immensely complex, containing 80 to 90 billion neurons within a three-and-a-half-pound mass, all of which must collaborate for a person to process the world, make decisions, and regulate emotions. A significant breakthrough occurred around 2015 with the advent of wireless technology that allowed for non-invasive observation of the brain in real-time. Before this, brain research was largely confined to a clinical setting, focusing on fixing what was "broken" (e.g., Alzheimer's, concussions, epilepsy). This clinical focus was driven by funding, as "money follows research," and there is significant financial incentive to develop drugs and protocols for diseases. Consequently, research into functional performance for healthy, everyday individuals has been historically underfunded and overlooked. Dr. Justice notes his work fills this void, and he has conducted nearly 21,000 functional scans, looking into the brain in the moments just before a person attempts a high-performance task. II. Decoding Brain Activity: Functional Scans and the 10 Hertz Principle Dr. Justice explains that the fundamental language of the brain is electricity, which operates as a vibration measured in cycles per second (hertz). He provides an analogy to a light bulb: a 200-watt bulb is brighter than a 20-watt bulb because its filament vibrates at a higher frequency. The brain operates on a similar, albeit more complex, scale. Using a simplified 0-100 hertz scale, he illustrates that a brain state between 0-5 Hz corresponds to sleep, while a state near 100 Hz signifies panic or high stress. The "magic" for peak performance, he reveals, happens at approximately 10 hertz. At this low-frequency state, mental "traffic" or "noise" is minimal. This lack of internal competition allows for two crucial things to happen: Amplified Sensory Input: What a person sees, hears, and feels is processed with greater clarity. For a golfer, the hole appears larger and the line of the putt is clearer. Mind-Body Cohesion: The connection between sensory perception and motor function becomes seamless. Conversely, as the brain's frequency increases to 30, 50, or even 70-80 Hz, it is cluttered with distracting thoughts like "Don't mess this up" or "I have to make this." This internal battle suppresses sensory input and disrupts motor control, leading to a high probability of failure; for instance, a golfer at 70-80 Hz has a 90% chance of missing a putt. Dr. Justice uses a non-invasive device resembling a cap or sweatband to measure this electrical activity. While the scan reveals the frequency (the "how bad or good"), he determines the content of the thoughts by debriefing with the athlete afterward. Over thousands of scans, he has become adept at predicting a person's brain state to within five hertz based on their verbal and non-verbal cues, including the 43 facial muscles. III. The 10 Hertz State in Action: Neuro-Hacking for a Quieter Mind Dr. Justice emphasizes that achieving a 10 hertz state is not as elusive as it may seem and introduces the concept of a "neurohack"—a rapid technique to lower brain frequency. Unlike traditional methods like meditation or yoga, which are time-consuming and impractical in a performance setting, a neurohack can be performed in seconds without any special equipment. He then guides Nate through a practical demonstration of the "10-10" neurohack: Count up quickly: Mentally count from one to ten as fast as possible. Count down slowly: Immediately afterward, mentally count back down from ten to one as slowly as possible. The entire exercise takes approximately 15 seconds. The rapid count-up briefly spikes brain activity, while the slow, deliberate count-down guides the brain toward the calmer 10 hertz state. Dr. Justice states that this 15-second cognitive exercise can produce the same calming benefit as five to twenty minutes of traditional meditation. The key insight is that an individual does not need to maintain a 10 hertz state all day; they only need to access it in the critical seconds immediately preceding an important action, making it a reasonable and achievable goal. IV. Applying the 10 Hertz Principle to Sports Performance The conversation explores how the 10 hertz principle applies differently across various sports. For athletes in continuous, high-reaction sports like boxing, MMA, or Nate's sport of Jiu Jitsu, maintaining a 10 hertz state for the entire duration of the match is critical. In these contexts, sensory input is paramount for anticipating an opponent's movements, and any mental interference or internal thought can result in getting hit. Dr. Justice advises Nate to perform the 10-10 neurohack repeatedly for two to three minutes before his upcoming tournament to prime his brain for this state of heightened sensory awareness. In contrast, sports with significant downtime, like golf, present a different mental challenge. A five-hour round of golf involves less than ten minutes of actual swinging; the rest of the time is spent walking and thinking. This downtime can be a "curse," as it allows negative thoughts to build after a poor shot. However, Dr. Justice reframes this downtime as a "gift"—a series of natural timeouts. A golfer doesn't need to be at 10 hertz for five hours, only in the 5-10 seconds before each shot. After a bad shot, a golfer can use a neurohack while walking to the ball to reset their brain state, a luxury not afforded in other sports. The discussion also touches on Tiger Woods, with Dr. Justice speculating that in his prime, he was a master of accessing the 10 hertz state over his shots. He concludes by noting a universal truth among the elite athletes he treats at "rock bottom": 100% of them are living with excessive noise in their heads, operating at chronically high frequencies of 60, 70, or 80 hertz. The fix, therefore, is to teach them how to quiet their minds. V. Resources for Mastering the Brain Dr. Justice provides resources for listeners interested in learning more about his work and applying these principles. His tenth and latest book, "Life Explained: Chasing 10 Hertz," is written to make the complex science of the brain accessible to everyone. The book argues that happiness and high performance are not mysteries but are the direct result of learning to guide the brain toward the 10 hertz state when it matters most. For practical application and to learn additional neurohacks, he mentions his companion app, Neuro580. The app costs approximately eight dollars per month and is designed to be used for a month or two to learn and internalize the techniques for achieving a calmer, more focused brain state.
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