In part two, the Union for firefighters has welcomed a parliamentary inquiry into the state of the countries fire trucks and other firefighting equipment. This comes after years of lobbying by the firefighters unions. But will it result in any change? Then, how is it that laser kiwi still holds a special place in people's hearts, 10 years on from the flag referendum? It flew outside New Plymouth District Council chambers this Easter weekend, the Panel hears from Malcolm Mulholland who was one of 12 members of the 2016 flag referendum panel.