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In this Know Your Speakers edition of the Paper Trail Podcast, Chris sits down with Matt Kelley, a certified foreclosure expert and long-time investor who’s underwritten tens of thousands of loans across California, Arizona, Nevada, and beyond. Known for his no-BS style, Matt shares insights from both sides of the note space—firsts, seconds, courthouse steps, and post-sale acquisitions.

They cover:

Why underwriting is the true money-maker in note investing
Red flags vs. yellow flags (and why the latter are more dangerous)
The importance of underwriting sellers, not just borrowers
Common mistakes new investors make—and how to avoid them
What’s really happening in today’s note market (and why inventory isn’t your biggest problem)

Matt is also a featured speaker at the upcoming Paper Trail Conference (Sept 18–20) in Chandler, AZ. Get a preview of what he’ll bring to the stage—and why his sessions are can’t-miss.

🎟️ Register at papertrailconference.com