Jim sits down with Steven Intermill, the manager of the Buckland Museum of Witchcraft in Cleveland, Ohio. Steven shares the unlikely path that led him from museum work of a very different kind to becoming the public steward of one of the most important collections of modern witchcraft artifacts in the United States. Along the way, we explore the legacy of Raymond Buckland, often called the father of American witchcraft, and how Buckland's personal collection evolved into a living museum that attracts visitors from around the world.

The conversation moves from history to the deeply human side of belief, touching on ritual objects, folklore, and the stories people bring with them when they walk through the museum doors. Steven reflects on misconceptions surrounding witchcraft, the museum’s role as a place of education and welcome, and why certain artifacts carry such emotional weight.

There are also lighter, surprising moments involving Ouija boards, haunted objects, and why curiosity, not fear, is often the real gateway into the unknown. This is a thoughtful, behind-the-scenes look at a museum that preserves more than objects. It preserves stories, experiences, and a living spiritual tradition.

You can find more information at https://bucklandmuseum.org/

Thanks Steven!

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